Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] Ten states impose flat EV fees, Georgia is highest

2015-12-07 Thread Hoegberg via EV 
Uhm.. ?
So the new upcoming global idea from usa in UN will be that the ones that 
actually DO solve the 
main problem in the years to come, to get us all fossil free ASAP, ..they will 
also have highest tax, ..and that solutionPunishment starts now??

 Or is it an extra-tax forced to all kind of vehicles in states/usa,, both gas 
and 
electrics, to share the local economical "loss" of fossil related money-making 
in your local country?

In general.. Making local money with a main focus of a more *inefficient* usage 
of 
fossil fuel  and try to reach even higher global pollution costs ...that seems 
not like a very good idea right now, ParisMeeting and all.. Right? 




> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 11:45:27 -0700
> To: bruce...@operamail.com; ev@lists.evdl.org
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] Ten states impose flat EV fees, Georgia is highest
> From: ev@lists.evdl.org
>
> The Idaho charges aren't QUITE as bad as they look ($100 hybrid and $150 EV). 
> Due to a shortfall in road maintenance revenue, they passed a law this year 
> charging an additional levy when vehicle license is renewed. Normal vehicles 
> also get an extra tax, but less than above. I believe the non hybrid vehicle 
> fee is about $40.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On December 6, 2015 1:59:57 AM MST, brucedp5 via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/01/ten-states-impose-ev-flat-fees-georgia-highest/
>>Ten states impose EV flat fees; Georgia is highest
>>Dec 1st 2015 Danny King
>>
>>[image
>>http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/midas/a61247bb248c07ecbd3ff545ce8ea090/203057143/41e7831c9fda4726ac9a33fa2f9a3666.jpeg
>>]
>>
>>Washington, Colorado, Virginia And Oregon Also On Growing List
>>
>>Plug-in vehicle advocates will certainly have Georgia on their mind
>>after
>>reviewing a US Department of Energy list of the ten states that impose
>>special fees for plug-in vehicles. These fees were put into place in
>>order
>>to offset the revenue shortfall from more fuel efficient vehicles,
>>electrified powertrains, and the resulting lower gas taxes. Georgia
>>charges
>>the highest fee out of any state in the country for plug-in vehicles.
>>Idaho
>>is a distant second.
>>
>>
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Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] Ten states impose flat EV fees, Georgia is highest

2015-12-06 Thread Mike Nickerson via EV 
The Idaho charges aren't QUITE as bad as they look ($100 hybrid and $150 EV).  
Due to a shortfall in road maintenance revenue, they passed a law this year 
charging an additional levy when vehicle license is renewed.  Normal vehicles 
also get an extra tax, but less than above.  I believe the non hybrid vehicle 
fee is about $40.

Mike


On December 6, 2015 1:59:57 AM MST, brucedp5 via EV  wrote:
>
>http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/01/ten-states-impose-ev-flat-fees-georgia-highest/
>Ten states impose EV flat fees; Georgia is highest
>Dec 1st 2015  Danny King
>
>[image  
>http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/midas/a61247bb248c07ecbd3ff545ce8ea090/203057143/41e7831c9fda4726ac9a33fa2f9a3666.jpeg
>]
>
>Washington, Colorado, Virginia And Oregon Also On Growing List
>
>Plug-in vehicle advocates will certainly have Georgia on their mind
>after
>reviewing a US Department of Energy list of the ten states that impose
>special fees for plug-in vehicles. These fees were put into place in
>order
>to offset the revenue shortfall from more fuel efficient vehicles,
>electrified powertrains, and the resulting lower gas taxes. Georgia
>charges
>the highest fee out of any state in the country for plug-in vehicles.
>Idaho
>is a distant second.
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] Ten states impose flat EV fees, Georgia is highest

2015-12-06 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV 
I say again, I am not opposed to a road use fee added to EV's AS LONG AS
THE SAME amount is applied to all ICE cars as a fee for their use of the
air we breath.  Yes, EV' are getting a free ride on the gas tax, but ICE's
are getting a free ride on the environment and THAT HAS TO STOP!

Bob, WB4APR


On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV 
wrote:

> The Idaho charges aren't QUITE as bad as they look ($100 hybrid and $150
> EV).  Due to a shortfall in road maintenance revenue, they passed a law
> this year charging an additional levy when vehicle license is renewed.
> Normal vehicles also get an extra tax, but less than above.  I believe the
> non hybrid vehicle fee is about $40.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On December 6, 2015 1:59:57 AM MST, brucedp5 via EV 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/01/ten-states-impose-ev-flat-fees-georgia-highest/
> >Ten states impose EV flat fees; Georgia is highest
> >Dec 1st 2015  Danny King
> >
> >[image
> >
> http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/midas/a61247bb248c07ecbd3ff545ce8ea090/203057143/41e7831c9fda4726ac9a33fa2f9a3666.jpeg
> >]
> >
> >Washington, Colorado, Virginia And Oregon Also On Growing List
> >
> >Plug-in vehicle advocates will certainly have Georgia on their mind
> >after
> >reviewing a US Department of Energy list of the ten states that impose
> >special fees for plug-in vehicles. These fees were put into place in
> >order
> >to offset the revenue shortfall from more fuel efficient vehicles,
> >electrified powertrains, and the resulting lower gas taxes. Georgia
> >charges
> >the highest fee out of any state in the country for plug-in vehicles.
> >Idaho
> >is a distant second.
> >
> >
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Re: [EVDL] [SPAM?] Ten states impose flat EV fees, Georgia is highest

2015-12-06 Thread Ben Apollonio via EV 
I agree we should incentivize low-pollution vehicles, but this is is actually a 
punitive road use fee.  Georgia's gas tax is $.075/gallon.  If you drive 16k 
miles/year (US average) at 22MPG (rough average accounting for older cars), 
you're paying about $55 toward road maintenance.  The $300 EV fee is 5.5x as 
high - you'd have to drive almost 90k miles/year for the fee to be fair.

Georgia also ended their $5k tax credit for buying EV's.  So they get 
historical credit for extremely generous incentives, but unfortunately one of 
our political parties has since decided that action to limit climate change and 
pollution is a sin, even when it's committed voluntarily by individuals.

-Ben

On Dec 6, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV  wrote:

> I say again, I am not opposed to a road use fee added to EV's AS LONG AS
> THE SAME amount is applied to all ICE cars as a fee for their use of the
> air we breath.  Yes, EV' are getting a free ride on the gas tax, but ICE's
> are getting a free ride on the environment and THAT HAS TO STOP!
> 
> Bob, WB4APR
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV 
> wrote:
> 
>> The Idaho charges aren't QUITE as bad as they look ($100 hybrid and $150
>> EV).  Due to a shortfall in road maintenance revenue, they passed a law
>> this year charging an additional levy when vehicle license is renewed.
>> Normal vehicles also get an extra tax, but less than above.  I believe the
>> non hybrid vehicle fee is about $40.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> On December 6, 2015 1:59:57 AM MST, brucedp5 via EV 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/01/ten-states-impose-ev-flat-fees-georgia-highest/
>>> Ten states impose EV flat fees; Georgia is highest
>>> Dec 1st 2015  Danny King
>>> 
>>> [image
>>> 
>> http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/800x450/format/jpg/quality/85/http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/midas/a61247bb248c07ecbd3ff545ce8ea090/203057143/41e7831c9fda4726ac9a33fa2f9a3666.jpeg
>>> ]
>>> 
>>> Washington, Colorado, Virginia And Oregon Also On Growing List
>>> 
>>> Plug-in vehicle advocates will certainly have Georgia on their mind
>>> after
>>> reviewing a US Department of Energy list of the ten states that impose
>>> special fees for plug-in vehicles. These fees were put into place in
>>> order
>>> to offset the revenue shortfall from more fuel efficient vehicles,
>>> electrified powertrains, and the resulting lower gas taxes. Georgia
>>> charges
>>> the highest fee out of any state in the country for plug-in vehicles.
>>> Idaho
>>> is a distant second.
>>> 
>>> 
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