Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hertz not deriding Spark EV as nothing more than a compliance car

2014-06-12 Thread Dennis Miles via EV 
Roger, you comment has some validity but, I am still jealous, of those who
the manufacturers have elected to make available all the alternative
vehicles, and refuse to sell in my state at all..

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On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Roger Stockton via EV 
wrote:

> Rick Beebe wrote:
>
> > There's compliance and then there's compliance. There are, I believe, 7
> >  states other than California that have ZEV mandates as well. I was able
> > to get a Smart ED because I live in one of them. But I can't get a Honda
> > FIT or Spark EV or Fiat 500e because those are California only. I
> > presume Honda, Chevy and Fiat are buying ZEV credits to avoid having to
> > make cars for us smaller states.
>
> I think it would be incorrect to label the Smart ED as a compliance car,
> given that it is available here in Canada, well beyond the reach of CARB or
> other ZEV mandates ;^>
>
> My take on the "compliance" label is that any vehicle that is exclusively
> available in regions with a ZEV mandate is a compliance car in that it is
> (at least at this time) fairly clearly provided by the manufacturer only as
> a means of complying with a ZEV mandate.
>
> As soon as the vehicle is offered anywhere that the manufacturer is not
> required to comply with a ZEV mandate, it is no longer a compliance car
> since the manufacturer is *voluntarily* making it available.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Roger.
>
>
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hertz not deriding Spark EV as nothing more than a compliance car

2014-06-12 Thread Roger Stockton via EV 
Rick Beebe wrote:

> There's compliance and then there's compliance. There are, I believe, 7
>  states other than California that have ZEV mandates as well. I was able
> to get a Smart ED because I live in one of them. But I can't get a Honda
> FIT or Spark EV or Fiat 500e because those are California only. I
> presume Honda, Chevy and Fiat are buying ZEV credits to avoid having to
> make cars for us smaller states.

I think it would be incorrect to label the Smart ED as a compliance car, given 
that it is available here in Canada, well beyond the reach of CARB or other ZEV 
mandates ;^>

My take on the "compliance" label is that any vehicle that is exclusively 
available in regions with a ZEV mandate is a compliance car in that it is (at 
least at this time) fairly clearly provided by the manufacturer only as a means 
of complying with a ZEV mandate.

As soon as the vehicle is offered anywhere that the manufacturer is not 
required to comply with a ZEV mandate, it is no longer a compliance car since 
the manufacturer is *voluntarily* making it available.

Cheers,

Roger.


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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hertz not deriding Spark EV as nothing more than a compliance car

2014-06-12 Thread Rick Beebe via EV 
There's compliance and then there's compliance. There are, I believe, 7
 states other than California that have ZEV mandates as well. I was able
to get a Smart ED because I live in one of them. But I can't get a Honda
FIT or Spark EV or Fiat 500e because those are California only. I
presume Honda, Chevy and Fiat are buying ZEV credits to avoid having to
make cars for us smaller states.

--Rick

On 06/12/2014 01:00 PM, Dennis Miles via EV wrote:
> Bruce, and others,  IMHO any EV built by a major manufacturer; but, limited
> to sales in California, is a compliance car.  Real EV are available
> nation-wide and are worthy of my general comment. I am not living in
> California (I lived there in 1970 & 71.) I buy my cars near home (in
> Florida), and I am Jealous of those of you who can purchase or lease an EV
> compliance vehicle because I can't... I would urge all states to adopt the
> laws requiring a minimum percentage of zero emissions vehicles, (similar to
> California.).
> 
> *Dennis Lee Miles *

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hertz not deriding Spark EV as nothing more than a compliance car

2014-06-12 Thread Dennis Miles via EV 
Bruce, and others,  IMHO any EV built by a major manufacturer; but, limited
to sales in California, is a compliance car.  Real EV are available
nation-wide and are worthy of my general comment. I am not living in
California (I lived there in 1970 & 71.) I buy my cars near home (in
Florida), and I am Jealous of those of you who can purchase or lease an EV
compliance vehicle because I can't... I would urge all states to adopt the
laws requiring a minimum percentage of zero emissions vehicles, (similar to
California.).

*Dennis Lee Miles *

*Director   **E.V.T.I. Inc.*

*E-Mail:*  *evprofes...@evprofessor.com* 

   *Phone #* *(863) 944-9913*

Dade City, Florida 33523

 USA




On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:05 AM, brucedp5 via EV  wrote:

>
>
> http://gas2.org/2014/06/06/chevy-spark-ev-now-available-hertz-rental/
> Chevy Spark EV Now Available as a Hertz Rental
> [2014/06/06]  Hertz
>
> [image]
> Though some may deride it as nothing more than a compliance car, the Chevy
> Spark EV is among the most efficient and fun electric cars out there. Don't
> believe us? Well if you live in Los Angeles or San Francisco, you can now
> rent a Chevy Spark EV through Hertz Rental Cars.
>
> Hertz has a history of offering fast and exotic rental vehicles, all the
> way
> back to the original Shelby GT350H. You can also rent a Tesla Model S or
> Smart ForTwo Electric Drive through Hertz, though the Chevy Spark EV is
> technically more efficient than either.
>
> With a 119 MPGe, the Spark EV is more efficient than any other electric car
> save the Scion iQ EV (which isn't on the consumer market) and the leading
> 124 MPGe BMW i3. And the Spark EV's 82-miles of driving range is
> competitive
> with other vehicles in this price range. One downside of the Spark EV is
> its
> relatively long 7-hour charging time for a Level 2 charger, but if you're
> just renting one for around town driving, you probably won't be going far.
>
> It's the latest offering from Hertz's Smart Mobility vehicle lineup, as the
> rental agency is diversifying its holdings as of late. The recent purchase
> of carsharing agency ZipCar by competitor Avis could give them an advantage
> among increasingly car-phobic Millennials. Hertz has countered by offering
> more electric vehicles and hybrids for rent, and that could draw in the
> curious for a test drive.
>
> What's the next EV Hertz should add to its vehicle lineup?
> [(c) gas2.org]
> ...
> http://evobsession.com/chevy-spark-ev-available-rent-hertz/
> Chevy Spark EV Available For Rent At Hertz
> By Christopher DeMorro  6/5/2014
> ...
>
> http://ecopreneurist.com/2014/06/09/hertz-offers-chevy-spark-ev-rental-car-option/
> Chevy Spark EV Now Available as a Hertz Rental
> By: Christopher DeMorro  6/6/2014
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[EVDL] EVLN: Hertz not deriding Spark EV as nothing more than a compliance car

2014-06-12 Thread brucedp5 via EV 


http://gas2.org/2014/06/06/chevy-spark-ev-now-available-hertz-rental/
Chevy Spark EV Now Available as a Hertz Rental
[2014/06/06]  Hertz

[image]
Though some may deride it as nothing more than a compliance car, the Chevy
Spark EV is among the most efficient and fun electric cars out there. Don’t
believe us? Well if you live in Los Angeles or San Francisco, you can now
rent a Chevy Spark EV through Hertz Rental Cars.

Hertz has a history of offering fast and exotic rental vehicles, all the way
back to the original Shelby GT350H. You can also rent a Tesla Model S or
Smart ForTwo Electric Drive through Hertz, though the Chevy Spark EV is
technically more efficient than either.

With a 119 MPGe, the Spark EV is more efficient than any other electric car
save the Scion iQ EV (which isn’t on the consumer market) and the leading
124 MPGe BMW i3. And the Spark EV’s 82-miles of driving range is competitive
with other vehicles in this price range. One downside of the Spark EV is its
relatively long 7-hour charging time for a Level 2 charger, but if you’re
just renting one for around town driving, you probably won’t be going far.

It’s the latest offering from Hertz’s Smart Mobility vehicle lineup, as the
rental agency is diversifying its holdings as of late. The recent purchase
of carsharing agency ZipCar by competitor Avis could give them an advantage
among increasingly car-phobic Millennials. Hertz has countered by offering
more electric vehicles and hybrids for rent, and that could draw in the
curious for a test drive.

What’s the next EV Hertz should add to its vehicle lineup?
[© gas2.org]
...
http://evobsession.com/chevy-spark-ev-available-rent-hertz/
Chevy Spark EV Available For Rent At Hertz
By Christopher DeMorro  6/5/2014
...
http://ecopreneurist.com/2014/06/09/hertz-offers-chevy-spark-ev-rental-car-option/
Chevy Spark EV Now Available as a Hertz Rental
By: Christopher DeMorro  6/6/2014


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Hershey's Leaf kisses fleet
...
http://www.thestreet.com/story/12735352/1/hersheys-electric-car-fleet-is-one-of-many-environmental-initiatives-photo-business-wire.html
Jun 5, 2014

http://www.gizmodo.in/news/The-Boardie-Electric-Boosted-Board-Shows-The-Future-of-Fun/articleshow/36112309.cms
'I really, really don't want to give this Boosted Board back'
Jun 5, 2014

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/fla-man-says-he-has-invented-the-worlds-lightest-electric-vehicle
Fla. man says he has invented the world's lightest electric vehicle
Jun 4, 2014

http://transportevolved.com/2014/06/04/buying-electric-car-make-sure-pick-right-charging-options/
Buying an Electric Car? Make Sure You Pick the Right Charging Extras
June 4, 2014

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140603005291/en/Fuji-Electric-Charging-Station-Electric-Vehicles-Installed#.U4_vTHajLMo
25kW Fuji/ChargePoint L3 EVSE @Edison ParkFast in Midtown Manhattan, NY
June 03, 2014
+
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