Re: [EVDL] Riding e-mower (4willie), robo e-mower (4brucedp)

2020-03-26 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
If your willing to push a mower, what about a power-assisted electric mower?

- Mark

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> On Mar 26, 2020, at 5:12 AM, Willie via EV  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/26/20 2:09 AM, Bill Woodcock via EV wrote:
>> 
> 
> I did not receive the post from "evln"; is that always Bruce?
> 
 On Mar 26, 2020, at 4:47 AM, evln via EV  wrote:
>>> I was thinking more of a robot/robo e-mower
>>> 
>>> https://www.homedepot.com/s/robot%2520electric%2520lawn%2520mower?NCNI-5
>>> 
>>> I could put the boundry wire out on the borders, and place
>>> a charger in the corner. Then sit and watch it do its magic.
>> I just did my shopping/comparison on these, and wound up ordering a 
>> Husqvarna Automower 315.  My second choice was a Worx WR140.
>> The Husqvarna hasn’t arrived yet, so I can’t yet tell you how well it works, 
>> or doesn’t.
>> https://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/robotic-lawn-mowers/automower-315/967673005/
>> https://www.worx.com/landroid-m-20v-cordless-robotic-lawn-mower-wr140.html
> 
> I'm interested but don't think it will work for my situation.  I look forward 
> to your reports.  Perhaps you could make a blog post or something detailing 
> the situations the mower successfully and unsuccessfully deals with?  I'm 
> especially interested in how it handles heavy growth.
> 
> I am willing to devote about half an hour a day pushing a mower.  Spring 
> growth has pushed that demand to an hour a day or longer.  I have about two 
> acres that I attempt to keep mowed; it is never all mowed at one time.  I 
> fear the effort to control and direct a robot would be beyond it's value.  
> Even if it has manageable control/direction requirements, I fear there might 
> not be enough time for it to make a dent in the task.
> 
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Re: [EVDL] Riding e-mower (4willie), robo e-mower (4brucedp)

2020-03-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Willie via EV wrote:



On 3/26/20 2:09 AM, Bill Woodcock via EV wrote:





I did not receive the post from "evln"; is that always Bruce?


On Mar 26, 2020, at 4:47 AM, evln via EV  wrote:
I was thinking more of a robot/robo e-mower

https://www.homedepot.com/s/robot%2520electric%2520lawn%2520mower?NCNI-5

I could put the boundry wire out on the borders, and place
a charger in the corner. Then sit and watch it do its magic.


I just did my shopping/comparison on these, and wound up ordering a
Husqvarna Automower 315.  My second choice was a Worx WR140.

The Husqvarna hasn’t arrived yet, so I can’t yet tell you how well it
works, or doesn’t.

https://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/robotic-lawn-mowers/automower-315/967673005/


https://www.worx.com/landroid-m-20v-cordless-robotic-lawn-mower-wr140.html



I'm interested but don't think it will work for my situation.  I look
forward to your reports.  Perhaps you could make a blog post or
something detailing the situations the mower successfully and
unsuccessfully deals with?  I'm especially interested in how it handles
heavy growth.

I am willing to devote about half an hour a day pushing a mower.  Spring
growth has pushed that demand to an hour a day or longer.  I have about
two acres that I attempt to keep mowed; it is never all mowed at one
time.  I fear the effort to control and direct a robot would be beyond
it's value.  Even if it has manageable control/direction requirements, I
fear there might not be enough time for it to make a dent in the task.


The Robomower I had did a decent job. It's less efficient than hand 
mowing, as it covers the same spot many times in an effort to find the 
ones it misses. My yard also has many trees, and it takes extra time 
(for human or robot) to mow around them. But the robot has nothing 
better to do do; it can mow all day if needed.


I didn't get the automatic docking/recharging station; so I had to 
manually drive it out to the lawn, then back to the garage when it ran 
down to recharge it. But that only took a few minutes, and it could be 
"put out to pasture" every day.


It certainly saved time when it was working. But overall, I'm not sure 
it saved any time or money when its high initial cost, expensive 
repairs, short life, and the big time investment in the boundary wire 
were taken into account.


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Re: [EVDL] Riding e-mower (4willie), robo e-mower (4brucedp)

2020-03-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV

I was thinking more of a robot/robo e-mower


Bill Woodcock via EV wrote:

I just did my shopping/comparison on these, and wound up ordering a
Husqvarna Automower 315.  My second choice was a Worx WR140.

The Husqvarna hasn’t arrived yet, so I can’t yet tell you how well it
works, or doesn’t.


I bought a "Friendly Robotics" Robomower 850 about 10 years ago. It 
worked well for about 5 years. But it slowly became increasingly 
unreliable, and now sits idle. Due to its size and weight, repairs were 
expensive, and after the first couple, the company went out of business. 
So now it sits idle.


The perimeter wire was very tedious to put in. Simply staking it on top 
of the ground as advertised didn't work; It was constantly getting 
broken. So I laboriously buried it 1-2" below the surface. It *still* 
got cut several times by a neighbor, paying people to aerate his lawn 
who didn't pay attention to the property line. It is nearly impossible 
to find breaks in the line when this happened; the entire side had to be 
re-done.


Lee Hart

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Re: [EVDL] Riding e-mower (4willie), robo e-mower (4brucedp)

2020-03-26 Thread Willie via EV



On 3/26/20 2:09 AM, Bill Woodcock via EV wrote:





I did not receive the post from "evln"; is that always Bruce?


On Mar 26, 2020, at 4:47 AM, evln via EV  wrote:
I was thinking more of a robot/robo e-mower

https://www.homedepot.com/s/robot%2520electric%2520lawn%2520mower?NCNI-5

I could put the boundry wire out on the borders, and place
a charger in the corner. Then sit and watch it do its magic.


I just did my shopping/comparison on these, and wound up ordering a Husqvarna 
Automower 315.  My second choice was a Worx WR140.

The Husqvarna hasn’t arrived yet, so I can’t yet tell you how well it works, or 
doesn’t.

https://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/robotic-lawn-mowers/automower-315/967673005/

https://www.worx.com/landroid-m-20v-cordless-robotic-lawn-mower-wr140.html


I'm interested but don't think it will work for my situation.  I look 
forward to your reports.  Perhaps you could make a blog post or 
something detailing the situations the mower successfully and 
unsuccessfully deals with?  I'm especially interested in how it handles 
heavy growth.


I am willing to devote about half an hour a day pushing a mower.  Spring 
growth has pushed that demand to an hour a day or longer.  I have about 
two acres that I attempt to keep mowed; it is never all mowed at one 
time.  I fear the effort to control and direct a robot would be beyond 
it's value.  Even if it has manageable control/direction requirements, I 
fear there might not be enough time for it to make a dent in the task.


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Re: [EVDL] Riding e-mower (4willie), robo e-mower (4brucedp)

2020-03-26 Thread Bill Woodcock via EV


> On Mar 26, 2020, at 4:47 AM, evln via EV  wrote:
> I was thinking more of a robot/robo e-mower
> 
> https://www.homedepot.com/s/robot%2520electric%2520lawn%2520mower?NCNI-5
> 
> I could put the boundry wire out on the borders, and place
> a charger in the corner. Then sit and watch it do its magic.

I just did my shopping/comparison on these, and wound up ordering a Husqvarna 
Automower 315.  My second choice was a Worx WR140.

The Husqvarna hasn’t arrived yet, so I can’t yet tell you how well it works, or 
doesn’t.

https://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/robotic-lawn-mowers/automower-315/967673005/

https://www.worx.com/landroid-m-20v-cordless-robotic-lawn-mower-wr140.html

-Bill

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[EVDL] Riding e-mower (4willie), robo e-mower (4brucedp)

2020-03-25 Thread evln via EV


Willie's post points out he and I have days where using a 
walk behind push mower can be too much. 

Today, just walking around pushing a shopping cart as my 
walker was a painful challenge, as my arthitic joint pain 
was intense (even on a max dose of tylenol, and 
supplemented with glucosamine). I pushed through the pain 
while thinking, ?How a I going to regularly mow the lawn 
of the sa home I want to buy if, just walking is torment?

I read Willie needs a more robust mower like his Kubota ice 
riding mower, but with an electric drive. He wants less than
a commercial mower but an electric riding mower that will
do the job. What I found was home depot has a good selecton:

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-Riding-Lawn-Mowers/Electric/Mulching-Lawn-Mower/N-5yc1vZc5axZ1z0zy7rZ1z1b2h7=newappliancev3

 however they are going to be in the $1.5k to $3+k price range.

The page shows:
Model#  RY48110 Exclusive RYOBI 38 in. 75 Ah Battery Electric 
Riding Lawn Mower 

Willie's nearest Hd store is in Kyle (just south of Austin), 
but for him to see and sit in that model, the 
1303 Rivery Blvd, Georgetown, TX 78628 | 512-868-3682
Georgetown #6538 Store has 2 IN STOCK.

I think my needs will much less than Willie's, as I'll only 
have a smallish front, side, and backyard to keep from 
growing into a tall TX grass prairie. Since there will be 
days when walking (hobbling) behind a walking mower would 
be painful, I was thinking more of a robot/robo e-mower

https://www.homedepot.com/s/robot%2520electric%2520lawn%2520mower?NCNI-5

I could put the boundry wire out on the borders, and place 
a charger in the corner. Then sit and watch it do its magic.
Since the homes I'm looking at are on the west side of I-10,
they likely won't have as good a soil as at Willie's farm.

Here are 2 videos on robo e-mowers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mt6k2IeQ6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEpVkhCjhog
 (in German, use cc option to translate to English w/ sound 
muted)

I like the mulching feature of the robo e-mowers as if I 
end up with rock hard crusty alkaline san antonio calche 
(kuh·lee·chee) soil, that has only had the grass removed, 
never fed back into the soil, I can improve the soil, to 
later kill off the water wasting grass, and plant TX 
native ground covers (create a bee-lawn), like plant TX 
clover, frogfruit, etc. Later still, I'll interplant with
some seasonal color with TX bluebells, poppies, etc.

That bee-lawn should only need mowing a couple of times a 
year, to cut down the dead growth. I'm hoping the robo 
e-mower should handle that (saving me from joint pain grief).




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