Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hunter's e-ATV reduces pressure on deer

2015-12-23 Thread Bill Dube via EV 
Electric vehicles are _less_ noisy to wildlife, 
but not silent in their hearing range.


While the low frequency noises from the engine 
and exhaust are eliminated, the high-pitched 
electronic noise can be quite loud to wildlife 
(and those of us that can hear ~17 kHz and 
above.) The controller switching frequency of  is 
above the typical person's threshold of hearing, 
but my cats would greet me in the driveway every 
evening that I would come home from work in my 
EV. They could hear me coming a block away. My 
wife can definitely hear the controller in our Prius and also in our Leaf.


Bill D.

At 01:58 AM 12/23/2015, you wrote:
I've never had anyone come back and say, 'It 
doesn't go as far as I need,' 
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/2015/12/18/hunters-electric-vehicles-stealth-deer/77419188/ 
More hunters turning to electric vehicles for 
stealth December 18, 2015  Brian 
Broom/Clarion-Ledger [image  / Brian Broom/The 
Clarion-Ledger 
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b4931d8b0bf4d3f2631de568cef8995113a6f6c0/c=88-0-1911-1371=x404=534x401/local/-/media/2015/12/16/JacksonMS/JacksonMS/635858717980727614-1220electric01.jpg 
(Hunter's e-ATV) ] All-electric vehicles reduce 
pressure on deer All-terrain vehicles are among 
the most versatile tools deer hunters can have. 
From discing to hauling stands and spreading 
seed and fertilizer — they can do itt all. But 
when deer season starts, more and more camps are 
silencing their ATVs. "We have two spots where 
we can drive a four-wheeler," David Cuevas of 
Madison said of his Madison County hunting club. 
"The rest of it is all-electric. "We have 12 
members and 10 have electric carts. Most of them 
are Polaris EVs and Bad Boy Buggies." Cuevas 
explained that because of the camp's size and 
where access roads are located, noise from ATV 
traffic could be heard throughout the camp and 
put unwanted stress on their deer. "We have 
about 1,200 acres and 12 members and to get 
anywhere, you have to go through the middle of 
it," Cuevas said. "Our four-wheelers were making 
so much noise and went right through the middle 
of camp. So, we decided to go all-electric." 
With fewer ATVs on the property, the noise level 
might be acceptable, but club president Tommy 
Kendall said simple economics pushed the volume 
too high. "I guess, primarily, it's the price of 
leased land," Kendall, of Madison, said. "It's 
gotten so expensive now. "You've got to increase 
the number of hunters to afford it. 
Four-wheelers on 1,200 acres — you can hear them 
aalmost all the way across the property. I just 
decided to go electric. These aren't like your 
typical golf cars. These are four-wheel drive." 
The impact on the deer was immediately 
noticeable to the camp members. "We instantly 
saw a difference," Kendall said. "We can drive 
up to a food plot and see four or five deer. "We 
never, ever had that happen before. It's really 
worked well. There's no doubt, it's the way to 
do it." While the decision to use electric 
vehicles during deer season has worked for their 
camp, ATV's still have their place for jobs 
during the remainder of the year. "During the 
off-season, we'll allow four-wheelers," Kendall 
said. "During deer season, they're off limits." 
According to Stewart Conway, owner of Gulf 
States Golf Cars in Ridgeland, more camps have 
followed the same path. "I've certainly seen a 
shift from gas cars to electric for hunting," 
Conway said. "I've talked to a lot of people 
who've said their camps require electric 
vehicles. It's becoming much more common." Some 
hunters associate battery-powered vehicles with 
poor performance and limited range, but 
according to Conway, that's not really the case. 
He said cars he customizes can travel at speeds 
around 20 miles per hour and newer battery 
technology allows them to go about 25 miles 
between charges, depending on the terrain and 
load. "I've never had anyone come back and say, 
'It doesn't go as far as I need,'" Conway said. 
[© clarionledger.com] ... 
http://www.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-utv/ranger-xp-900-eps-hunter-edition 
Polaris hunting e-ATVs 
http://www.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-utv/ranger-ev-polaris-pursuit-camo 
... http://www.badboybuggies.com/Home/sport Bad 
Boy Buggies e-ATVs ... 
http://www.landsofamerica.com/property/1200-acres-in-Madison-County-Mississippi/154051 
Madison County hunting club MS ... 
http://www.gsgolfcars.com/ Gulf States Golf Cars 
is a golf car dealership in Ridgeland, MS. For 
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Re: [EVDL] Improving Leaf economy & range.

2015-12-23 Thread Bill Dennis via EV 
The new 2016 Chevy Volt has front grill shutters that automatically close at 
high speed, when less cooling airflow is needed, then open up at lower speeds 
to let in more air.  So that's one possibility, even if you control it manually 
yourself.

Bill

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hunter's e-ATV reduces pressure on deer

2015-12-23 Thread Buddy Mills via EV 
Where I take my EV for inspections is a local "good old Boy" shop.  They
have a dog that the second I pull up he comes over to my car and pees on the
wheel.  The owner says that he has never seen him do that to any other car.
We figure it might be some high pitch sound or other unknown phenomenon that
make him react this way. 

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buddymi...@cox.net

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Disclaimer:  No animals were harmed or killed in the process of writing this
email.  Any stories to the contrary are, for the most part, either fictional
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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:20 AM
To: brucedp5 ; Electric Vehicle Discussion List

Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hunter's e-ATV reduces pressure on deer

Electric vehicles are _less_ noisy to wildlife, but not silent in their
hearing range.

While the low frequency noises from the engine and exhaust are eliminated,
the high-pitched electronic noise can be quite loud to wildlife (and those
of us that can hear ~17 kHz and
above.) The controller switching frequency of  is above the typical person's
threshold of hearing, but my cats would greet me in the driveway every
evening that I would come home from work in my EV. They could hear me coming
a block away. My wife can definitely hear the controller in our Prius and
also in our Leaf.

Bill D.

At 01:58 AM 12/23/2015, you wrote:
>I've never had anyone come back and say, 'It doesn't go as far as I 
>need,'
>http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/2015/12/18/hunters-electric-v
>ehicles-stealth-deer/77419188/ More hunters turning to electric 
>vehicles for stealth December 18, 2015  Brian Broom/Clarion-Ledger 
>[image  / Brian Broom/The Clarion-Ledger 
>http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b4931d8b0bf4d3f2631de568cef8995113a6f6c
>0/c=88-0-1911-1371=x404=534x401/local/-/media/2015/12/16/JacksonMS/
>JacksonMS/635858717980727614-1220electric01.jpg
>(Hunter's e-ATV) ] All-electric vehicles reduce pressure on deer 
>All-terrain vehicles are among the most versatile tools deer hunters 
>can have.
> From discing to hauling stands and spreading seed and fertilizer — 
>they can do itt all. But when deer season starts, more and more camps 
>are silencing their ATVs. "We have two spots where we can drive a 
>four-wheeler," David Cuevas of Madison said of his Madison County 
>hunting club.
>"The rest of it is all-electric. "We have 12 members and 10 have 
>electric carts. Most of them are Polaris EVs and Bad Boy Buggies." 
>Cuevas explained that because of the camp's size and where access roads 
>are located, noise from ATV traffic could be heard throughout the camp 
>and put unwanted stress on their deer. "We have about 1,200 acres and 
>12 members and to get anywhere, you have to go through the middle of 
>it," Cuevas said. "Our four-wheelers were making so much noise and went 
>right through the middle of camp. So, we decided to go all-electric."
>With fewer ATVs on the property, the noise level might be acceptable, 
>but club president Tommy Kendall said simple economics pushed the 
>volume too high. "I guess, primarily, it's the price of leased land," 
>Kendall, of Madison, said. "It's gotten so expensive now. "You've got 
>to increase the number of hunters to afford it.
>Four-wheelers on 1,200 acres — you can hear them aalmost all the way 
>across the property. I just decided to go electric. These aren't like 
>your typical golf cars. These are four-wheel drive."
>The impact on the deer was immediately noticeable to the camp members. 
>"We instantly saw a difference," Kendall said. "We can drive up to a 
>food plot and see four or five deer. "We never, ever had that happen 
>before. It's really worked well. There's no doubt, it's the way to do 
>it." While the decision to use electric vehicles during deer season has 
>worked for their camp, ATV's still have their place for jobs during the 
>remainder of the year. "During the off-season, we'll allow 
>four-wheelers," Kendall said. "During deer season, they're off limits."
>According to Stewart Conway, owner of Gulf States Golf Cars in 
>Ridgeland, more camps have followed the same path. "I've certainly seen 
>a shift from gas cars to electric for hunting,"
>Conway said. "I've talked to a lot of people who've said their camps 
>require electric vehicles. It's becoming much more common." Some 
>hunters associate battery-powered vehicles with poor performance and 
>limited range, but according to Conway, that's not really the case.
>He said cars he customizes can travel at speeds around 20 miles per 
>hour and newer battery technology allows them to go about 25 miles 
>between charges, depending on the terrain and load. "I've never had 
>anyone come back and say, 'It doesn't go as far as I need,'" Conway 
>said.
>[© clarionledger.com] ...

Re: [EVDL] Improving Leaf economy & range.

2015-12-23 Thread Paul Wujek via EV 

The only other thing I can think of would be add a front spoiler.

The underside is probably already smooth.

On 2015-12-23 06:10 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

I had some thoughts on Improving the CD of a Leaf. Moon hubcaps & fender 
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Re: [EVDL] Improving Leaf economy & range.

2015-12-23 Thread Cor van de Water via EV 
Lawrence,
Google is your friend:
There is a thread for Aero mods on MyNissanLeaf
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[EVDL] Improving Leaf economy & range.

2015-12-23 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV 
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[EVDL] Bloomberg lumps plugins w/ power-consuming datacenters & pot-growers

2015-12-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV 
 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-21/as-pot-growing-expands-power-demands-tax-u-s-electricity-grids
As Pot-Growing Expands, Electricity Demands Tax U.S. Grids 
December 22, 2015  Jennifer Oldham,Bloomberg News

 ... Without design standards or efficient equipment, the facilities... are
responsible for greenhouse-gas emissions almost equal to those of every car,
home and business in New Hampshire... regulations ... lack requirements to
reduce energy waste.
Some operations have blown out transformers, resulting in fires ...

“Consumers seeking a green lifestyle are likely unaware that their cannabis
use could cancel out their otherwise low-carbon footprint,” Evan Mills, a
senior scientist for California’s Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory,
wrote in an email ...

Planners predict the escalating consumption could, in some regions, undo
Americans’ attempts to save energy by buying more efficient refrigerators,
washers and hair dryers ...

“All these things consume too much power,” said Paul Isenbergh, a ...
co-owner of the 3,100-square-foot medical-marijuana operation ... “The air
conditioning, the lighting, the fans, the scrubber, the humidifier.” ... The
electric bill for all this: as much as $5,000 a month ...


Pot operations like Isenbergh’s join data centers and electric cars as among
the top new users of electricity for the Northwest Power and Conservation
Council ...


In Boulder County, Color., commissioners levied an energy-usage fee on such
facilities after discovering that a 5,000-square-foot operation consumed
29,000 kilowatt-hours a month ...

“Most of the power in our region is coming from the burning of coal, which
has a powerful negative footprint,” ...
[© 2015 Bloomberg]
...
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/power-hungry-pot-industry-taxing-us-electrical-grids/
Power-hungry pot industry taxing U.S. electrical grids 
December 22, 2015
...
https://twitter.com/jennoldham
Jennifer Oldham
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/authors/3472-jennifer-oldham
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennoldham



http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_charging_home.html
 ... If electricity costs $0.11 per kilowatt-hour, charging an all-electric
vehicle with a 70-mile range (assuming a fully depleted 24 kWh battery) will
cost about $2.64 to reach a full charge. This cost is about the same as
operating an average central air conditioner for about 6 hours. General
Motors estimates the annual energy use of the Chevy Volt will be 2,520
kilowatt-hours, which is less than that required for a typical water heater
or central air conditioning ...
...
[dated]
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/02/03/grid-capacity-electric-vehicles-actually-problem-studies-find/
Grid Capacity For Electric Vehicles Is Actually Not A Problem, Studies Find
February 3rd, 2014



http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2015/06/data-center-power-water-consumption/
Data Center Power & Water Consumption
Jun 30, 2015 - But aggregate data center power consumption is still about
the same as it was 10 years ago  ...
...
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2598562/data-center/data-centers-are-the-new-polluters.html
Aug 26, 2014 ... U.S. data centers are using more electricity than they
need. It takes 34 power plants, each capable of generating 500 megawatts of
electricity, to power all the data centers in operation today ... businesses
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[EVDL] EVLN: SF-based Alta Motors Redshift performance Electric motorcycles (v)

2015-12-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV 


http://insideevs.com/alta-motors-began-deliveries-of-redshift-motorcycles/
Alta Motors Began Deliveries Of Redshift Motorcycles
[20151218]  Mark Kane

[images  
http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/36.jpg
Alta Motors Delivers “The Future of Fast” with First Customer Receipt of
Redshift Motorcycle

http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1123.jpg
Alta Redshift MX

http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/229.jpg


video
https://youtu.be/ZI0NCFU-xXU
Kevin Butler wins the SM 250 race in Sacramento
Alta Motors Nov 9, 2015
Despite six inches of mud, constant rain, and pulled ligaments in his left
wrist, Kevin Butler cruised around the track to win the 250 class at
SuperMoto USA this past weekend. #‎noshifting
]

San Francisco-based Alta Motors began production and deliveries of its
breakthrough performance electric motorcycles Redshift (available in
Motorcross MX and Supermoto SM versions).

The first Redshift MX was purchased (through BMW Motorcycles of San
Francisco) by Eric Gauthier and Jeannine Smith, who own and operate
Suspension Performance in Mountain View, CA.

Marc Fenigstein, co-founder and CEO of Alta Motors said:

“We’ve been quietly driving towards this moment for over 8 years in
pursuit of creating the best motorcycles money can buy. The result is a
machine with a whole suite of new technologies, and a very different
motorcycle than anything that has come before. The Redshift feels
immediately comfortable to anyone who has ever thrown a leg over a state of
the art performance motorcycle, but offers a leap forward in control, feel,
and the connection between the rider’s brain and the tires on the ground. To
have successful, speed-minded customers like Eric and Jeannine take delivery
of the first Redshift is a tremendous honor for Alta Motors.”

Alta Motors was founded as BRD Motorcycles in 2007 and later changed its
name:

“Alta Motors began in 2007 as an idea – what the perfect torque delivery
of electric drive could do for motorcycle riders and racers. Officially
founding the company in 2010, Marc and his partners, Derek Dorresteyn and
Jeff Sand, have been obsessively churning out ground-breaking technology to
build the RedShift, a legitimate performance electric motorcycle capable of
competing against any bike and power plant on the grid. The Alta team now
includes the very best from Tesla, GM, Toyota, Volkswagen and AMA racing.

The RedShift isn’t put together from off-the-shelf motors and
electronics from automotive, bicycle, industrial or even aerospace
applications. This electric motorcycle is a clean sheet, proprietary design. 
Every part was created, tuned and tested for pure performance on-road and
off.”

Alta Motors is hiring for various positions (see jobs openings).

Highlights of Redshift performance was shown in November when Redshift SM
won against gas-powered competitors:

“Recently, the Redshift SM proved its outrageous performance by winning
the IMS Sacramento round of the Supermoto USA race series held November 6-8. 
Alta Motors technician and pro racer Kevin Butler took the Redshift from the
last place on the grid to first across the finish line in his first-ever
supermoto race.  The victory also marks the first time an unmodified,
production electric motorcycle triumphed over gas-powered competitors.”
[© insideevs.com]
...
http://www.altamotors.co/machine/redshift-mx/
Alta Redshift MX



http://www.autoevolution.com/news/alta-motors-makes-the-first-delivery-103080.html
Alta Motors Makes the First Delivery
18th December 2015
...
http://motocross.transworld.net/news/1000186156/#
Alta Motors Electric Redshift MX Bike
December 17, 2015
...
[video  dated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZalgFYHJd-Q
2015 Alta Motors RedShift MX & SM on the track
Oct 20, 2014 - Uploaded by TechnologicVehicles
2015 Alta Motors RedShift MX & SM on the track.
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[EVDL] EVLN: NEVS.se Deal> 150, 000 Saab 9-3 EVs To Panda.cn-leasing

2015-12-23 Thread brucedp5 via EV 


http://insideevs.com/nevs-signs-deal-for-15-saab-9-3-electric-cars-to-panda-new-energy/
Nevs Signs Deal For 150,000 Saab 9-3 Electric Cars To Panda New Energy
[December 17, 2015]  Jay Cole

[image  
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How Many SAAB 9-3s Do You Want Again Panda New Energy?

http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/saab-epower.jpg
An All-Electric Saab Out For A Test Spin
]

National Electric Vehicle Sweden (NEVS) put out a press release today with
numbers so large, it can’t be ignored.

Specifically a 78 billion RMB ($12 billion US) deal with Chinese company
Panda New Energy (a plug-in leasing company) to supply 150,000 9-3
all-electric sedans by the end of 2020, and another 100,000 “other EV
products and services” to other random companies for good measure.

Here is the press release from NEVS on the deal:

Nevs has signed a Strategic Collaboration Agreement with Panda New
Energy Ltd., about 150,000 9-3 Sedan EV

National Electric Vehicle Sweden (Nevs) and the Chinese company Panda
New Energy Co., Ltd. have signed a strategic collaboration agreement.
According to the agreement, Nevs will provide Panda with 150,000 9-3 sedan
electric vehicles until the end of 2020. In addition, the agreement also
includes 100 000 other EV products and services from companies associated to
Nevs and its owners. The total value of the agreement is 78 billion RMB.

Panda New Energy is a new energy vehicle leasing company with focus on
low emission mobility solutions. Cooperating with many chauffeured car
service platforms in China, Panda aims to become one of the biggest EV
leasing companies in the world.

“This is a strategic collaboration for Nevs not only in terms of the
numbers of vehicles, but it is also an important step to implement our
vision and new business plan. In the long term, we want to provide our
customers with both sustainable products and mobility services,” said Stefan
Tilk, Vice Chairman Nevs.

”We are very pleased to form a cooperation with Nevs, a company with a
rich innovation heritage and the right ability to fulfil our demands. Being
in an emerging market for new energy vehicles, we are happy to find a
partner who shares our commitment to the environment,” said Ma Chao,
Chairman Panda New Energy.

National Electric Vehicle Sweden AB’s (Nevs) vision is to shape mobility
for a more sustainable future, and focuses on the development of electric
vehicles and sustainable mobility services. Nevs acquired the main assets of
the former Saab Automobile in 2012. Nevs is Co-owned by National Modern
Energy Holdings, Tianjin Binhai Hi-tech industrial Development Area (THT),
and the Beijing State Research Information Technology Co., Ltd. (SRIT).

As to specifics on the deal, there is not much to go on, Mikael Ostlund – a
NEVS spokesperson said the all-electric  9-3’s body be built and painted in
Trollhattan, Sweden, and then shipped to Nevs’ factory in China for final
assembly.   Mr. Ostlund also spoke to Swedish news agency TT, stating the
new order would create jobs for “hundreds of people.”

Who is Panda New Energy Ltd?  According to the AFP, “Panda cooperates with
chauffeured car service platforms in China, and aims to become one of the
biggest electric vehicle leasing companies in the world.”
[© insideevs.com]



http://www.industryweek.com/global-economy/china-orders-12-billion-electric-cars-former-saab-outfit
China Orders $12 Billion in Electric Cars from Former Saab Outfit
Dec 17, 2015
http://www.industryweek.com/site-files/industryweek.com/files/imagecache/large_img/uploads/2015/12/nevs.jpg
...
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/drive/article/chinas-panda-new-energy-orders-electric-cars-from-nevs-formerly-saab-for-us#
China’s Panda New Energy orders electric cars from Nevs (formerly Saab) for
US$12b
December 17, 2015
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/images/sized/ez/1712-drive-saab_factory_china_620_412_100.jpg
...
http://phys.org/news/2015-12-china-panda-electric-cars-bn.html
China's Panda orders electric cars for $12 bn from Nevs, ex-Saab
December 17, 2015
http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2015/chinaspandan.jpg




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