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Re: An interstellar asteroid has been found

2017-10-29 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List


"The most unusual feature of the asteroid, was noted by astronomers, observing 
the asteroid's copious production of helium and lithium, passing outwards, from 
one side of the asteroid, and the non-typical heat signature from the 
asteroidal crater, leaving the asteroid at high speed. More non-typical, was 
the observation of pulsed radio signals from the object, and the metallic 
structures seen on the asteroid;s surface. Astronomers suggest that backyard, 
astronomers, enjoy the object while they can, as it passes out of the solar 
system. A glorious, phenomena of nature!"
~Dr. Hugo Braunschwigger
At the European Astrophysical Institute
University of Schmeckelsdorf am Rhein


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Subject: An interstellar asteroid has been found



For the first time an asteroid has been found that follows a hyperbolic path 
not a elliptical one, that means it is not in orbit around the sun but is 
freely traveling between the stars. It's about 1300 feet across and was 
discovered on Oct 19 after it had already made its closest approach to Earth 
(15 million miles) which must have been on Oct 14. It will never come this way 
again.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/10/27/a-space-rock-from-another-star-is-spotted-in-our-solar-system-a-cosmic-first/?utm_term=.2f342bf9bebc
  


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Re: An AI program that teaches itself

2017-10-29 Thread Bruno Marchal



On 28 Oct 2017, at 14:55, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:



On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 at 3:30 am, John Clark   
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Brent Meeker   
wrote:


> There are a lot of other painkillers

But marijuana is the only painkiller I know of that has a  
0% chance of death by overdose, and yet it is illegal to use in most  
states, even for cancer patients in agony.  But Aspirin is  
legal and that can kill you, and Oxycodone is  
legal too and if the pain is too strong for Aspirin the law  
encourages you to switch to that or some other opioid  
which is projected to kill 500,000 Americans in the next decade.  
And if you defy the law and choose marijuana instead the law will do  
its best to see to it that your last days are not only spent in  
agony they will also be spent in jail.


This is the Trump administration's idea of getting government off  
out backs.


It’s important not to demonise opioids.


Right.



In acute, severe pain they are often the only thing that works, and  
denying them to a suffering patient is inhumane. In chronic pain,  
their use is more controversial. Perhaps not widely known is that in  
a way they are very safe drugs in that they do not cause end organ  
damage, unlike, say, alcohol or tobacco.


Note that tobacco would be much less dangerous if people were  
informed, and could have more choice. Since tobacco exists, it has  
been used orally by many people, and today, studies shows that this  
mode of consumption is far less dangerous than smoking it.





Elephant-killing doses of fentanyl are used in cardiac surgery, and  
as long as respiration is supported, the patient wakes up fine. The  
problem is that some people (not all) enjoy the euphoric effect so  
much that they misuse them, leading to tolerance, dose escalation  
and risk of overdose.


That is right, but seems to be an effect of its prohibition. In the  
city of Liege, in Belgium, they have made (two times) a three year  
experience of legalizing heroin. You need a medical prescription. This  
has confirmed that the best medication to quit heroin is ... heroin  
itself, when cheap and medically prescribed. heroin then loose  
completely its appeal for "beginners", and old consummers, not only  
get fine, got the time to search a job, diminish by themselves the  
consumption, and eventually most have stopped. Obviously, this is  
helpful for getting clean needles and preventing AIDS. Despite this  
success, heroin is still illegal in Belgium, for pure insane political  
reason.


Note that heroin was first sold in Germany to cure young infant cough.  
Its illegality is one of the most source of finance of terrorism, and  
in this case there are proof that the CIA have organized traffic. It  
seems also that it is part of the reason the american have gone to  
Afghanistan (to protect the field of Opiate-plant (Pavot, in french).  
I have verified this, but it does not obvious to interpret all data;  
need to pursue the research.


In Russia, they have try to eradicate heroin in a large part of the  
country. the result is the apparition of the drug Krokodil. That one  
is total poison, in horrible pain and always leading to long agony and  
death ...


No medication at all should be demonized. To use a drug/medication  
concerns only you and/or you shaman/doctor. The very idea that a  
government has its say on it makes no sense at all. We can accept that  
a government enforces transparency, warning on secondary effects,  
traceability, etc. But not on what is or not a medication. That can  
only lead to the interdiction of efficacious medication, for the  
simple reason that a cured patient is a client lost. Money is the best  
tool to share the product of work, and the worst goal when money is  
used only to make more money. That is equivalent to cancer at the  
social level.


Bruno







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Re: An AI program that teaches itself

2017-10-29 Thread Bruno Marchal

On 27 Oct 2017, at 21:12, Brent Meeker wrote:

On 10/27/2017 9:30 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Brent Meeker
wrote:

> There are a lot of other painkillers

But marijuana is the only painkiller I know of that
has a 0% chance of death by overdose, and yet it is illegal to use
in most states, even for cancer patients in agony. But
Aspirin is legal and that can kill you,

So can table salt. "The dose makes the poison." - Paracelsus

Except precisely cannabis and salvia divinorum. They are less
dangerous than water (2000 death by overdose of water!). With cannabis
and salvia, the lethal dose does not exist, or you die by being
injected to much material. Yes, if you got one ton of compact cannabis
on the head, you die.

and Oxycodone is legal too and if the pain is too strong
for Aspirin the law encourages you to switch to that or
some other opioid which is projected to kill 500,000
Americans in the next decade .

And air pollution, mostly from fossil fuel extraction and burning,
is projected to kill 2 million.

http://news.mit.edu/2013/study-air-pollution-causes-20-early-deaths-each-year-in-the-us-0829

I have heard at the radio and read in some newspaper that pollution
would have killed 9 million of people just for the year 2015.

And pollution coming from fossil extraction would be less severe if
cannabis did not have been made illegal. Both Diesel and Ford conceive
their first engine using bio-fuel, and notably hemp.

The free-market would have regulated such problem, if .. its was not
made impossible by prohibition.

Bruno

Bent

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Re: An AI program that teaches itself

2017-10-29 Thread Bruno Marchal

On 27 Oct 2017, at 21:04, Brent Meeker wrote:

On 10/27/2017 9:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Then the discovery that THC (cannabis main cannabinoid, the psycho-
tropic one) shrink cerebral rumor of mice was dismissed and
stopped, and remain largely ignored. It is a total inhuman shame!

I looked at that paper. It was statistically bogus.

Nobody has ever found that paper easily. One guy found one of the
author and got a manuscript draft, then later, someone found an old
print of it, but I think it is a hell of difficulty to find the paper.

I guess you talk about something else. That paper was written by
people paid by the US Government to prove that cannabis causes cancer,
but they found the opposite: it cures cancer (at least on mice for a
collection of cerebral tumor). You may look at:

http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.html

Anyway, that precise discovery, and its extension on humans cells has
been done again 20 years later by a spanish Team, and belongs to the
"mainstream":

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948

That is not bogus, and has been verified, and followed by many papers
showing that cannabis is indeed an excellent medication for many
diseases---you can look at:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/08/23/20-medical-studies-that-prove-cannabis-can-cure-cancer/

I did verify some of those papers (some are bogus indeed, but many are
not).

As I said, the team of Mechoulam, in Jerusalem, have understood the
basic general mechanism, by discovering the anandamide, which is the
name they gave to the agonist of THC, and by unraveling the endo-
cannabinoid system in all enough high animals (which means all, except
for some primitive sea non-vertebrates). Google on endo-cannabinoid
system.

Also, it is a false secret that the reason to forbid cannabis was
brought by a set-up. There has never been any reason to make cannabis
illegal. There are many good videos and books on the subject. I will
not develop this here. I can give references, including to the
thousand of papers which add evidence that cannabis can cure many
disease and cancers. Of course such research are not permitted in the
land of the free, and it is not yet that simple in Europa too.

Bruno

Brent

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An interstellar asteroid has been found

2017-10-29 Thread John Clark

 For the first time an asteroid has been found that follows a hyperbolic
path not a elliptical one, that means it is not in orbit around the sun but
is freely traveling between the stars. It's about 1300 feet across and was
discovered on Oct 19 after it had already made its closest approach to
Earth (15 million miles) which must have been on Oct 14. It will never come
this way again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/10/27/a-space-rock-from-another-star-is-spotted-in-our-solar-system-a-cosmic-first/?utm_term=.2f342bf9bebc



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