Re: Re: On Income Fairness in the USA and the world

2012-12-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi meekerdb 

True. 


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Subject: Re: On Income Fairness in the USA and the world


On 12/19/2012 7:33 AM, Roger Clough wrote: 
Hi Hal Ruhl  

So whbat ? Those gini coefficnets are in percentages,
so USA has a gini about 27 %, which is outstanding.

Where do you get this nonsense.  The very wikipedia page you cite shows the 
U.S. gini is 0.47 (and of course they are in percentages - that's the way gini 
is defined).  And 0.47 is 'outstanding' only if you think Uganda and Iran have 
a good distribution of income.  Yes, the U.S. gini is the middle of the 
worldwide *range*, because the range is goes all the way to 0.7 (Namibia) to 
0.23 (Sweden), but the U.S. is far more unequal than the other OECD nations.

Brent



If you don't that,  see from the wikimedia
map (below) that  the USA gini coeff. 
is about about average in the world: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filt/Sandbox





Sorry, you have to go to that page to find what the colors mean.
The pink color indicates that USA is smack dab in the middle
of the gini coefficients. 




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Hi Roger: 

Try this and sort by wealth Gini 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_distribution_of_wealth 

Hal 

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Re: Re: On Income Fairness in the USA and the world

2012-12-19 Thread Craig Weinberg


On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:33:55 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
>
>  Hi Hal Ruhl  
>
> So whbat ? Those gini coefficnets are in percentages,
> so USA has a gini about 27 %, which is outstanding.
>  
> If you don't that,  see from the wikimedia
> map (below) that  the USA gini coeff. 
> is about about average in the world: 
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filt/Sandbox
>  
>  
>  
>   
> Sorry, you have to go to that page to find what the colors mean.
> The pink color indicates that USA is smack dab in the middle
> of the gini coefficients. 
>

No, smack dab in the middle of the 9 colors would be light orange - places 
like Iran and Turkey. Yellow countries like India and Khazakstan are doing 
better than that. We are down below average, in the D- range with China, 
Mexico, and Peru. Can you imagine how many dirt poor peasants there are in 
China or Mexico or Peru and how many abandoned ex-Middle Class suckers it 
takes to make the US that shade of pink?

It's grotesque. Think of how many hundreds of millions of dollars in spare 
change that those at the top have to convince people like you that giving 
them more and more of your money is the only political solution.

It's not helping your case any btw Roger that you keep trying to pull dead 
rabbits out of this hat. Turn it right side up and face the music.

Craig

 
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> Hi Roger: 
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> Try this and sort by wealth Gini 
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_distribution_of_wealth 
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Re: On Income Fairness in the USA and the world

2012-12-18 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Roger :

Try:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_distribution_in_the_United_States
Then Try:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_in_the_United_States

Hal

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Re: On Income Fairness in the USA and the world

2012-12-18 Thread Hal Ruhl
Hi Roger:

Try this and sort by wealth Gini

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_distribution_of_wealth

Hal

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