Re: [Evolution] Subscribe doesn't work for me

2002-10-04 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 11:52, Ross Burton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running Evo 1.1.1 (evolution-1.1.1.99-snap.ximian.200210021620 to be
> exact) with a UoW IMAP server. My mail mboxes sit in ~/mail/, and my
> Namespace in Evo is 'mail'.  Recently, when I go to Subscribe to Folders
> I can only see "INBOX" and 'mail'. 'mail', however, is not a node but a
> leaf in the tree, I cannot expand it or subscribe to it.

I just noticed this with Courier too, CVS from Thursday.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Hotkey for Preview (was: evolution 1.2 beta)

2002-09-20 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 11:11, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 06:30, Norman P. B. Joseph wrote:
> > [is this the right forum for beta comments?]
> > 
> > Anyway, what was the rationale for removing the 'q' hotkey for toggling
> > the preview pane in the recent 1.2 beta release?  Or was that just an
> > oversight?  Not having to reach for the mouse and hunt through a menu
> > for an often-used option (I toggle the preview pane constantly through
> > numerous folders) is a *big* win.  Please put it back in!
> 
> Agreed! This disappeared in the 1.1 snapshots and I really miss it, as I
> tend to turn off preview while sorting messages around that didn't get
> caught by my filters, then I turn it back on to read what's left. I also
> use it to inspect for false positives in my spam folder, which normally
> has preview off.

The key has only been moved; it is now a backtick (or tilde). This has
issues with international keyboards, apparently, but that's a separate
topic.

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Re: [Evolution] Idea: Pens for highlighting emails

2002-09-17 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 10:33, Evert Hoff wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Here's an idea that you might want to consider implementing in
> Evolution. I will find it very useful and others might too. I don't know
> of any email client that has this feature yet.
> 
> The feature: Provide a highligher pen (or pens) on the toolbar. Clicking
> on it will turn the cursor into a highlighter. Selecting a piece of text
> in an email would then highlight the background behind the text in
> light-blue, light-red or light-yellow. This would be saved without
> changing the actual text of the email that was received. It should be
> possible to change the view to toggle between displaying and hiding
> these highlights.

In general, requests like this should go into bugzilla, but I filed this
very request a while ago so there's no need for you to do it. (It was
closed, as I recall.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Namespace Again ...

2002-08-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:32, Ryan P Skadberg wrote:
> Needs to be done for what reason exactly?  Bad coding?  Getting around
> some other bug?  I don't understand how this NEEDS to be done in
> evolution and does NOT need to be done in any other mail client out
> there.  Obviously the Courier IMAP issue you mentioned must have been
> solved by other mailers that do namespaces correctly, why can't
> evolution also solve it?

Ok, admittedly we could work around this in some way if we wanted to,
probably by special-casing namespaces beginning with INBOX, but that's
just a waste of time. Namespaces will need to be prefixed in once IMAP
gets support for public and shared folders so not doing the namespacing
will just result in us having to break people's IMAP uri's and folder
trees later as opposed to sooner.

Really, this is like the 'n and p' versus ', and .' thing, it isn't that
big of a deal, use it a bit and you'll get used to it.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Downloading mail from multiple accounts

2002-08-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:09, Greg Macek wrote:
> As Evolution is now (1.0.8 for me), when I choose to download my mail,
> it attempts to grab all mail from every enabled account at once (4
> accounts). While for the most part this isn't a huge deal because I'm
> usually on some high-speed Internet connection, my concern is that while
> I'm on dial-up, this method of simultaneously fetching mail could bog
> down a 56K dialup session, esp. if there is a lot of mail. Are there any
> plans or foreseen need to serialize the mail download process? It would
> seem that Evolution would have less to do at once, but maybe that
> doesn't matter. :-) 

I don't think we'd serialize the mail fetching, as most of the time it
wouldn't even really help. If you're having bandwidth problems, I
suppose you could try temporarily disabling some of your accounts.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Namespace Again ...

2002-08-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 12:17, Ryan P Skadberg wrote:
> I was just wondering what the current plan to get name spaces fixed in
> evolution is.  The current implementation where it shows the namespace
> as a sub directory in the folders list is not correct.  The namespace
> should be your top level if you set it to something.  This is how it was
> in evolution from 0.X until a few weeks ago in 1.1.  I do not understand
> why this has changed.  I know someone said that there was some hack code
> taken out, but it has yet to be replaced with good code.  What is the
> current plan to do this?
> 

It's not going to change any time soon. We have to show the namespace
for a variety of reasons -- there were serious problems on Courier
servers (people not being able to read their INBOX after certain
operations), eventual support for full IMAP namespaces
(private/public/shared), fixing folder naming ambiguity.

The bit that needs to be fixed is migration of filters, vfolders, and
some preferences, but the current way IMAP folders appear in the folder
tree is going to stay. It is a bit disconcerting at first but it is the
way it needs to be done.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Check for duplicate messages

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 14:14, Mertens Bram wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 20:06, Antonio Bemfica wrote:
> > This is trivial to do using procmail (by checking the Message-ID
> > header). You can get a bit more sophisticated and do an MD5 hash of the
> > body of incoming messages and store it on a database (dbtool, for
> > example: http://www.daemon.de/dbtool/).
> > 
> > If you or anyone else is interested I can post a recipe that does the
> > above.
> 
> Well I certainly am interested!
> 
> I don't know anything about procmail though, would I have to configure
> much to get this working?  I am running Evo 1.0.8 btw...
> 

You don't want to detect duplicates based on message-id; it's trivial
for an attacker to prevent you from seeing a given message, and the same
problem could happen even without malicious intent.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Setting size of mail composition window

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 11:59, Lance A. Brown wrote:
> Is there some way to set the size of the new mail composition window? 
> I'm using 1.0.8.99, updating from red-carpet whenever a new snap comes
> out, and would like to have the new mail windows sized so they are wide
> enough to accomodate a full line of text.
> 
> Thanks,
>   --[Lance]

At the moment, this is probably best accomplished by configuring your
window manager. But this has been brought up before, so maybe we'll add
some code to remember window sizes.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Forward multiple e-mails.

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 13:59, Roberto Moral wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Is there any way of sending/forwarding multiple e-mails within 1
> single e-mail, 
> 
> i.e: I want to send all the e-mail concerning the topic "[Evolution]
> Mail list display" to a hotmail account, I select all those e-mails
> and click "forward" and forward puts them all in the same e-mail
> instead of opening 1 send window per message.

The CVS (1.1.x) version of Evolution can do this.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Feature Request

2002-08-26 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Andrew,

On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 11:29, Andrew Braithwaite wrote:
> Hi. 
> 
> If this is not the correct forum for Evolution feature requests then
> please excuse my ignorance, I am new to the list ! 
> 
> In Mozilla/Netscape mail setup there is an option to copy all sent
> Emails either to a fixed address (usually yourself) or to copy them
> all to the 'Sent' folder. I used this all the time as it gave me a
> complete thread history on Email correspondance and kept track on what
> I had sent and to whom. 
> 
> How do I go about getting this feature added to Evolution ? 

Evolution 1.0.x has a Sent folder that all messages are appended to.
Evolution 1.1.x has this feature, and also lets you define a default CC:
or BCC: header for your emails. So you're all set.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Mandrake 8.2 with Matrox G450 bug?

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 13:26, Brett Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 10:58, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > Don't use xinerama.
> 
> To expand on Jeff's ever so helpful response...
...

Does Nautilus work with Xinerama? I've always assumed the problem was
some disgusting undebuggable bonobo-type problem Nautilus is the
only other program I can think of that Bonobos as aggressively as we do.

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Re: [Evolution] Mandrake 8.2 with Matrox G450 bug?

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 12:32, Onsi Fakhouri wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I'm running Mandrake 8.2 on an athlon 800 with 256 Mb of RAM.  My video
> card is a dual head Matrox G450 and I'm using Xinerama.  The error I'm
> experiencing is erratic.  When I start up evolution 1.0.3 the main
> window pops up but the summary doesn't get displayed.  The toolbar and
> sidebar appear but, where the summary should be, I get corrupted a
> postage-stamp sized viewing area embedded in the main window.  Clicking
> on anything at this stage causes evolution to hang - the only way out is
> to kill it, and the only way to restart it is to kill all it's running
> components individually.  What's frustrating is that, though this
> happens most of the time, it doesn't always happen - sometimes evolution
> comes up fine.

Evolution has problems with Xinerama. I don't think anyone really
understands how to fix them. We know about it but we're probably not
going to get any work done on it for 1.2. I think these things work
somewhat better overall in GNOME 2 so the GNOME 2 port will hopefully be
better in this regard. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering for one folder?

2002-08-21 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 03:34, Oliver Sturm wrote:
> As I said, I do server-side filtering. Nothing wrong with that, I would
> think... Actually, there's a language for it called Sieve (RFC 3028 or
> http://www.cyrusoft.com/sieve/index.html), which may be a fine thing to
> support. I think the assumption that mail only ever arrives in one
> specific folder is wrong.
> 

The problem with Sieve is probably 95% of IMAP servers don't implement
it, so it's basically useless (none of UW, Courier, or Exchange have
it.)

We know that you can't assume that all mail arrives in INBOX, but it's
the only way to implement the filtering that won't be a huge resource
drain.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] IMAP login problems

2002-08-20 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 16:22, Richard Zach wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> My school has changed the IMAP config, and now I can't login to get my 
> mail. The log's below. Looks like Evo is inserting a CRLF in the LIST 
> command where it shouldn't.
> 
> -RZ
> 
> received: * OK IMAP4 Ready iproxy1.acs.ucalgary.ca
> sending : A0 CAPABILITY
> received: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 LITERAL+
> received: A0 OK CAPABILITY
> sending : A1 LOGIN xxx xxx
> received: A1 OK You are so in
> sending : A2 LIST {0+}
>  ""
> received: A2 BAD Missing required argument to LIST
> 
> camel-imap-provider-WARNING **: Unexpected response from IMAP server: 
> A2 BAD Missing required argument to LIST
> sending : A3 LOGOUT
> received: "" BAD Missing command

Your server is claiming to support LITERAL+ but it lies. Not much we can
do about that.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Complete exchange integration with remote locations

2002-08-20 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 15:56, Rory D. Hudson wrote:
> First, I would like to be able to maintain a calendar here at the
> office, it could be a public folder on the Exchange server.  Then I
> would like to be able to send this calendar down to our stores via
> uucp...this then could replace the
> /home/username/evolution/local/Calendar/calendar.ics file located at
> the store.  Thus the store has the most up to date version of the
> calendar.  I would like to do something similar to this with the
> addressbook as well. 

Maybe I'm not understanding something, but what's preventing you from
doing this right now? Just uucp the calendar.ics file at 4:00 AM or
something when you know Evolution won't be running?

Or do you mean that you want the calendar to be updated over UUCP as
soon as anything changes? That would be hard to pull off.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Memory Usage

2002-08-19 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 03:39, Oliver Kurlvink wrote:
> hm... and whay does my freebsds top shows me 6 evolutions and each has a
> different memory usage? (ranges go from 17 to 24mb size and 6 to 14 res)

There should only be one process named evolution running at once. You
probably have evolution and all its components: evolution,
evolution-mail, evolution-addressbook, etc.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Opening of attached jpeg files

2002-08-19 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 08:01, Rick Loga wrote:
> The jpegs attached to my email are sometime already open and sometimes I have
> to click on the icon to open them.  How can I tell evolution to always open
> jpeg attachments?

The sender can specify whether the default should be to show the
attachment for not (note the checkbutton at the bottom of the file
picker when you add an attachment in Evo).

Anyway, there's no way to open all jpeg attachments by default at the
moment. I suppose it could be implemented as a feature but not for 1.2
-- you'd want to have it more generic than just "[x] Automatically
display all jpegs". Ie, let the user specify which mimetypes are
automatically displayed, etc.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Mail component crash

2002-08-17 Thread Peter Williams

On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 19:59, Barry Grundy wrote:
> Just in the last couple of weeks I've started having a
> problem with evolution where the mail component
> crashes *every* time I send an e-mail.  I can't recall
> if it occured after an RC update or not.  The system
> in question is my work laptop, and I've had to revert
> back to Win/Eudora for awhile.  

You probably need to update your copy of the 'gal' library, if you're
using the 1.1.x development snapshots. If that's not the case or that
doesn't help, we'll need more information -- the best bet would be to
find instructions for how to run evolution-mail under gdb at
support.ximian.com (shouldn't be hard to dig up).

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Gnome 2 anti-aliasing in Evolution

2002-08-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 12:59, David Hoover wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 08:21, Peter Williams wrote:
> > It will happen when Evolution is ported to Gtk+ 2, which will happen
> > after 1.2 comes out, which is targetted for Octoberish.
> Just to get clarification, do you mean that 1.2 is targeted for
> Octoberish, or that the GTK+ 2 work is targeted for Octoberish, which
> means 1.2 will be out before then?

1.2 is targetted for October; the GNOME 2 port will likely follow a few
months later (no new features planned, except for the move to gnome 2.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Gnome 2 anti-aliasing in Evolution

2002-08-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 05:48, Carlos 'Fjrb' Almeida wrote:
> Is it possible to have it ? Will it happen at some point ? It looks
> great as well as provides a better reading of on-screen characters, it's
> be great to have it, as it is, for instance, in Gedit (I'm using
> RedHat's Limbo beta).

It will happen when Evolution is ported to Gtk+ 2, which will happen
after 1.2 comes out, which is targetted for Octoberish.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] feature idea

2002-08-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 03:44, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to present an idea to you all,
> 

Posts to mailing lists are ephemeral. Feature requests in
bugzilla.ximian.com are forever.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Filtering incomming messages with IMAP mailbox

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 15:06, Nick Jennings wrote:
>  Whenever I start up evolution, or when I click on a "non mailbox"
> folder (meaning, i don't keep mail in it, just more folders) I get an
> error 'No such folder '. I think this is because the IMAP
> server hasn't created it as a folder since no mail has gone into it, so
> aside from creating some black message to keep in there to avoid the
> annoying error messages, how can I stop these messages from popping up?

Don't click on those folders? :-)

Anyway, it shouldn't be giving that error message... can you get a trace
of the conversation with the IMAP server? Look on support.ximian.com for
instructions if you need them.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Anoncvs compile problems

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 17:01, Michael Hill wrote:
> /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link gcc  -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused
> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations   -o test-dateedit 
> test-dateedit.o
> ./libemiscwidgets.a   ../../e-util/libeutil.la
>-rdynamic -L/usr/lib
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lbonobo_conf -lbonobo -lbonobox -lbonobo-print
> -lgtkhtml -lgal -lgnomeprint -lfreetype -lgdk_pixbuf -lgnomecanvaspixbuf
> -lglade-gnome -lglade -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE
> -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -ldb -lgnomevfs -lxml -lz
> -lgconf-gtk-1 -lgconf-1 -loaf -lORBitCosNaming -lORBit -lIIOP
> -lORBitutil -lgtk -lgdk -lXi -lXext -lX11 -lm -lgmodule -lgthread -lglib
> -lpthread -ldl  
> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libssl.la'
> 

Does /usr/lib/libssl.la exist? Is it readable by you? Does the string
'libssl.la' appear in any /usr/lib/*.la ? I think something was compiled
against an openssl that you had compiled yourself, but now the libtool
helper script (the .la) is gone. You might just try making clean and
rebuilding if you haven't done that yet.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Filter feature request

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 12:50, Mertens Bram wrote:

> I've just edited the rule so that it now says:
> Subject contains [Cc]alc
> 
> Would that be correct?

No, you need to use the "Regex Match" rule, the "Subject" rule just does
text matching, as far as I know. See my other email.

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Re: [Evolution] Filter feature request

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 12:18, Mertens Bram wrote:
> Unfortunately I don't! :( But I'm willing to learn! :)
> From what I've read (briefly) about regex, however, it's a) not easy, b)
> there's little documentation about it for the moment! Any suggestions
> where I might find (good <- I'm still new to Evo +/- 3 weeks))
> documentation, Preferably with some examples?
> 

I think what you want for your case is

Subject:.*[Cc](alc|ell)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Anoncvs compile problems

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 11:06, Michael Hill wrote:
> Evolution from CVS last compiled for me on Monday.  The initial problem
> seemed to be libtool-related (couldn't find libssl.la) but now after
> upgrading to the latest libtool-autotools as well as openssl (Debian
> unstable), Evolution won't configure.
> 

You're probably using a too-new automake. Evolution should be built with
version 1.4. There's a new automake 1.4 release out that calls the
executable automake-1.4, so you can get that to coexist with automake
1.6 if you need it.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Filter feature request

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 06:55, Mertens Bram wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Apparently the filters are case-sensitive (no problem with that) but
> unfortunately most people on mailing lists are not! :)
> 
> I've created a filter that looks for messages on the OpenOffice.org
> mailing list where the subject contains "Calc". I would like this filter
> to also find messages where the subject contains "calc" and "Cell" and
> "cell".

You could do this with a regex match, if you know how to use them.

As for "Sounds like", I'm not sure how that's implemented, but it might
be worth a try (you can have the filter action be to mark the message a
specific color or copy it to a folder and see whether it works or not.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 04:09, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
> Looks like this is going to keep running :-)
> 
> Ximian folks, do you want me to open a bugzilla entry for this?
> 
>   Nigel.
> 

I'd think that the mutt way ability to choose the identity based on the
recipient, rather than the current folder, will work a little better...
consider the case of a vfolder of messages from several mailing lists.

But either of those solutions feels a little hackish (too much hinting
from the user required) and would be difficult to implement right now.
Obviously we haven't got the logic right now, but I have a feeling that
there's a better way.

But anyway, go ahead and open a bugzilla bug, just don't be surprised if
it gets WONTFIXed :-)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] The lost message (weird filter behaviour)

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 06:24, Mertens Bram wrote:
> 1) some filters are acting strange (btw I'm no longer having problems
> with the "apply color" filter

I suspect this has something to do with needing a "Stop processing"
rule, but it's difficult to say.

> 
> 2) Is it possible to see to which folder a message belongs when you're
> reading it in a vfolder? If not I think that would be a nice feature! :)
> 

This is possible in 1.1.x; you can add a column to the message list
called Original Location. (You can add a column by right-clicking on the
headers of the message list).

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Re: [Evolution] moving to next unread message that belongs to acollapsed thread

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 06:12, Mertens Bram wrote:
> Hi,

> Any suggestions are welcome!

I use the Hide Read Messages menu item to do this, if I understand your
problem correctly. It's a godsend.

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Re: [Evolution] Delete from server when expunged in client...

2002-08-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 07:18, Brian wrote:
> In the 1.0.x series of Evolution, there is a "Work Offline" button, but
> I've never used it.  I believe that in the soon-to-be released (in a few
> months anyway) 1.2, you can do this more easily.  I'm sure those on the
> list who have more experience than me in this regard could offer some
> input.
> 

I've been working on the Offline support in 1.1.

The way it works is you can specify which folders will get synchronized
when you go offline, and Evolution will copy the unread messages from
those folders to disk so that you can read them. Messages that you've
already viewed will also be available. When you go back online, whatever
changes you've made will be synchronized with the server.

Evolution's IMAP support tends to be on the slow side but it's pretty
feature-complete. IMAP also has the advantage of having different
folders on the server, and if you can access the server you can access
all of your mail. (or: IMAP is for keeping mail on the server, POP is
for downloading mail to your computer.)

As Brian said, if your ISP supports IMAP, the easiest thing to do is
create an IMAP account and see how it works out for you. Unless you
start moving messages around, you'll basically be able to switch back to
POP if you don't like it.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] courier IMAP || Evo bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:30, Tom wrote:
> Has anyone had any problems reading HTML email from a Courier IMAP
> server sent from a PHP script? :) 
...

Perhaps the server has some kind of MIME filtering software installed
that is modifying the message?

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:06, Dan Winship wrote:
> > 1) Search the Recipient list for an address in your accounts
> > (this should fail on a mailing list, so ...)
> > 2) Use X-Evolution-Source.
> > 3) Barring Neither working for some reason, use default account.
> 
> So you'd think, but that's basically how it was supposed to work in
> 1.0.x and he's saying it didn't really... I suspect something is messing
> up so that it doesn't recognize the X-Evolution-Source header and step 2
> fails.

I thought the problem was that this breaks if you have one IMAP account
that is a collection point for several evolution accounts, such as I do.
All of my mail from Ximian and newton.cx lives on one IMAP server, and I
have mailing lists subscribed under both addresses.  In my situation,
the account that the IMAP server "belongs to" is always used even when
that's the wrong account.

Of course, now that I think about it, I'm not sure how the mailer could
figure out what the right account is.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] VOrdner bug?

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 10:19, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
> When I click on the outbin (Ausgang), suddenly the messages in there
> seem to be added to the VFolder (VOrdner) set, because the "Not matched"
> (Nicht passend) folder contains all the messages that I have sent.
> (I have all VFolders setup as source==Inbox)
> 
> I'm curious if this is considered a bug, and if so, how do other people
> read their personal emails after having filtered out mailing lists via
> VFolders?
> 

I'm pretty sure this is intentional; we try to ignore certain folders
(Sent, etc) for the Unmatched vfolder because usually their messages are
useless, as in your case, but we still want people to be able to see the
messages if they really want to, so if you explicitly open it, they'll
appear.

I guess one workaround would be to create a vfolder that matches all
messages in Sent / outbox (not sure which one you mean)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 13:57, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> If you go back to probably even last week or the week before in the
> archives for this list, you'll find numerous messages complaining about
> 1.0.x "find my account from this message" behavior. In fact, every week
> there are lots of complaints. All of them wanted it the way it is now.
> You're actually the first person that wants it the old way :-)
> 
> Jeff
> 

Hm, maybe we could do:

if (number_of_remote_stores == 1)
identity = guess_from_message()
else
identity = guess_from_store_uri()

if (identity == NULL)
identity = default_identity()

I think that would cover things pretty well.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Determining the account used for sending mail

2002-07-29 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 08:51, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
> I've recently switched to the 1.1.x development snapshots, and the
> process evolution uses to determine the outgoing account/identity used
> when sending messages has changed.
> 
> I have one receiving account defined - an IMAP server - and around 5
> other accounts with no receive option, and the sending information all
> the same other than the email address field.  Mail from all of those
> accounts ends up on the same IMAP server (although in different
> folders).
> 
> With evolution 1.0.x the appropriate sending account was normally picked
> when replying to messages, presumably by matching the accounts against
> information in the To/Cc fields in the messages being replied to.

This should still work, but I've seen a couple of complaints about it,
so maybe something got broken at some point.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] How to Enable NNTP in evolution

2002-07-26 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 08:30, Gopi wrote:
> Now, is there anyway I can enable nntp support to this, i have compiled
> evolution with --enable-nntp=yes option but still i couldnt find any
> nntp option shown anywhere in evolution.

That's because the NNTP code is very old and hasn't been worked on in a
long time and is basically guaranteed not to work. There's a basic
framework that someone with the appropriate sk

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Re: [Evolution] evolution and openoffice mailto and send document

2002-07-25 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 13:01, Zot O'Connor wrote:
> Has anyone gotten evolution to work with openoffice for send document,
> or mailto?
> 

Unfortunately Evolution's mailto: URL handling is a bit primitive, all
we support is mailto:user@host on the commandline, so you won't be able
to attach a file from the commandline. The best you'll be able to handle
is sending a message to somebody, and it looks like OO expects a much
richer interface, so I'm not sure how you'd configure it to OO's liking.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Compilation Problem in RedHat 7.3

2002-07-25 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 10:17, Gopi wrote:
> Hai,
>   Sorry if this is offtopic message :)
> bonobo-1.0.19-2
> bonobo-conf-0.14-5
> oaf-0.6.8-3
> libgal19-0.19.1-2
> gal-0.19.1-2
> gal-devel-0.19.1-2

You need the corresponding -devel packages of many of your libraries:
bonobo-devel, bonobo-conf-devel, oaf-devel, etc... basically, if
configure bombs out telling you that you don't have something installed,
the solution will probably involve getting the devel package.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] This folder cannot contain messages

2002-07-24 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 14:01, jerm wrote:
> I have 2 account subfolders -- one a branch off of the inbox and another
> off the root of the account.  Each of my other accounts have one of
> these, but neither has both 

This is the problem. Creating subfolders of INBOX is broken in Evolution
right now, but there's a solution. If you open your IMAP account using
another client, you should see that you have another folder called INBOX
as a child of your real INBOX, and then your subfolders as children of
that INBOX. Delete the middle INBOX and you should be all set.

Peter


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Re: [Evolution] Loading message content.... Lock-Ups

2002-07-24 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 09:24, Scott Comboni wrote:
> Hello not sure if anyone posted this already I did a brief check in the
> list.  Anyway I'm running evo 1.1.0.99 latest snap.  While clicking on
> messages I get a Loading message content and then evo locks.  Happens
> enough that I can repeat but it is not always the same message.
>   

Can you get a backtrace and file a bug report? Email me if you need help
on how to do so.

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Re: [Evolution] Unable to send mail to person@ozemail.com.au

2002-07-23 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:21, Mertens Bram wrote:
> However every time I try to send the message I get the following error:
> Error performing operation:
> DATA response error: message termination: Requested action not taken:
> mailbox unavailable: mail not sent

The person's smtp server is telling you that the email address that
you're trying to send to doesn't exist. You're probably using an old on
wrong email address.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Newbie questions: BCC and Shortcuts

2002-07-23 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 07:31, Marc Janssens wrote:
> I recently switched to Evolution (1.0.8) as mail reader due to 
> some nice features (coming from Netscape).
> 
> I'm using multiple PC's to read and write emails. To have all mails
> I've sent available on all PC's I was using Netscape.In Netscape it
> is possible to automatically BCC yourself to the list. Can someting
> similar be configured with Evolution? The mail account here is POP3.
> 

This feature is in the 1.1.x development version, but not the 1.0
branch, sorry.

> For my work I want to switch to Evolution as well (mainly because
> its Calendar and Tasks funtion). Here I use an IMAP only mail server.
> I want to replace the standard Inbox in the Shortcuts menu with the
> inbox on the IMAP server. Is this possible?

Sure, if I remember correctly, all you need to do is right-click on the
old shortcut to delete it, then drag the icon from the folder tree to
the shortut bar.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Suddenly mail disappear

2002-07-23 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 10:13, Georg Rønning wrote:
> I have not found any "strange" huge files astray, but I still have the
> "enormous" mbox.ibex file of 1,5 Gb. As far as I understand this MUST be
> related to the disappeared mailbox ? 

Unfortunately, Marcus is right: the ibex file is just indexing
information and doesn't contain your messages.

If the mbox file only contains those few new messages, then I don't
think you'll be able to recover your mail :-(. Did you do anything
unusual before this happened? I don't think Evolution has lost anyone's
mail for a long time; it should be able to handle a 1300-message mbox
without any problems. The large ibex is weird but wouldn't affect the
mail itself.

Hope this helps,
Peter

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Re: [Evolution] contacts-database format

2002-07-23 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 00:41, c.c. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i want to use it with openoffice as it's addressbook. i tried but it
> does not work.
> 
> christoph
> 

The easiest way to do this would be to import the OO addressbook into
evolution. The addressbooks wouldn't be synchronized, but that would be
very difficult to do correctly. You might try writing an Evolution
importer and importing your addressbook -- I don't know how feasible
this is. It depends on the format that OO uses to store its addressbook.
You might try filing a bug report and supplying a sample OO addressbook
for us to work from, but unfortunately I doubt this would be a high
priority at the moment.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] contacts-database format

2002-07-22 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 17:12, Scott wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 14:59, c.c. wrote:
> > In theory, you don't need to know -- you should be able to use IDL to
> > access anything you need. Why do you ask?
> 
> I have a stupid question.  What is IDL?

Interface Definition Language. In our particular case, we use OMG CORBA
IDL (Object Management Group Common Object Request Brokering
Architecture) as CORBA is the basis of our IPC (Inter-Process
Communicaton). Does that make things clearer? :-)

Basically they're language-independent header files that define an
interface for talking to the addressbook. They live in /usr/share/idl.

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Re: [Evolution] contacts-database format

2002-07-22 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 14:59, c.c. wrote:
> Hi People,
> 
> in which format is the contacts database?
> 
> thanks
> 

In theory, you don't need to know -- you should be able to use IDL to
access anything you need. Why do you ask?

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Re: Newbie questions/comments (Was: Re: [Evolution] Wish list/Todo?)

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 16:31, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> no, and in fact this has been removed in the development branch, there
> are no longer any single-key accelerators because of the new feature in
> the message-list that uses them.

Actually, it's been replace with ` (backtick).

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Re: [Evolution] Problem and praise

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 15:51, Mertens Bram wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since a couple of hours I am receiving some messages twice, is there a
> problem with the list-server, or could this be caused by Evo1.0.8?
> 
> The praise part is for Red Carpet!
> I didn't know which package I had to update to upgrade to Evo1.0.8, so I
> installed Red Carpet from Ximian and used that to install the (already
> downloaded) package of Evo.  It cleanly downloaded al the required
> packages and everything seems fine! I love this (both Evo and Red
> Carpet!)
> 
> Thx a lot to everybody has/is contributing to Ximian!

Oh, or it could be that people are replying-to-all to your messages, so
one copy of the reply is sent to you directly and one copy is sent to
you via the list.

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Re: [Evolution] Duplicate Messages

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Williams

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 15:47, Langsley T Russell wrote:
> Of late I've been getting tow copies of many emails. It seems to happen
> mostly with posts from mailing lists. It doesn't seem to matter who is
> hosting the list. I'm on several lists on yahoo groups for example. On
> two of those lists I get duplicates of everything while on several
> others I get only one of each. 
> 
> I don't know if this is connected with Evo but I do know it never
> happened with Outlook. 
> 
> Might there be some setting in Evo I need to change? Hundreds of extra
> emails a day is the last thing I need.
> 

Maybe you have misconfigured filters? Do you have "stop processing"
rules at the end of your filters where applicable?

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Sound over network.

2002-07-17 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 16:50, Tig Kerkman wrote:
> Evolution version 1.0.8.99
> 
> If I have am launching evolution from a remote sever with ssh/rsh, and I
> would like to bring sound with me.  How can I do this, I know nothing
> about espeaker??

You need 'esd' on your local computer to be set up to accept incoming
connections (with the -port command), and then you need to export
ESPEAKER=[ip address of local computer]:[port].

I've never tried this so things probably aren't that simple. Try
http://www.tux.org/~ricdude/docs.html

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] configurable defaults or buttons on tool bar?

2002-07-17 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 17:44, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
> Hi, is there away to configue the buttons on the tool bar in evolution?
> 
> I ask as 99 times out of 100 I forward inline so I wouldlike the make
> the default action (for me) on the forward button to inline, 

You can configure the default forward action... Tools | Preferences |
Composer Preferences | Forward Style.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] blahfasel@[123.45.3789.123] addresses

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 09:09, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
> Yo!
> 
> evolution mangles adresses in the user@[numerical ip] form, which I use
> occasionally for testing purposes (as I don't want to reconfig my dns 10
> times a day sometimes).
> 
> any reason for that?

What do you mean by "mangles"?

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Re: [Evolution] Next and Previous

2002-07-16 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 08:24, Anton J Aylward, CISSP wrote:
> But surely the cursor keys are the ultimate in being independent of the
> user's native language and cultural assumptions?
> 
> The way the message and folder lists are laid out on the screen the
> "intuitively obvious" motion us "up and "down".

Well, right now up and down move one message at a time, as they should.
We need a way to move to the next/previous unread message.

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Re: [Evolution] Arbitrary (way to modify) 'From' when composing

2002-07-12 Thread Peter Williams

On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 15:23, Brad Felmey wrote:
> I have everything to my personal domain forwarded to a single account.
> That way I can use [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and so forth on the fly, and still only
> have one Inbox. I want to be able to see when SPAM arrives where it was
> addressed so I can see who is leaking. It is a ridiculous waste of time
> for me to create mail accounts every single time I enter my email
> address somewhere online (and I do it a LOT).

In this case, you don't need a separate account to get the mail. You
don't need a separate account to read the mail. You DO need a separate
account to send mail that claims to come from that address, and I don't
see why you'd ever need to do that here.

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Re: [Evolution] Arbitrary (way to modify) 'From' when composing

2002-07-10 Thread Peter Williams

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 14:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a voting process or some other way to recommend this feature?
> 
> Thanks very much - Evolution is a great app. ;)

As Jeff said, there's no real point to being able to make a custom from
address when you can create more mail accounts. Basically, the only
thing a From address wins you is making it easy to forge email
addresses, which is something we'd prefer to make less convenient, not
more.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Spam Filter

2002-07-09 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 14:33, Patrick J. Doland wrote:
> Howdy-
> 
> Does anyone have an relatively effective set of filter rules to reduce
> spam with Evolution? 

The fad with the kids is to use SpamAssassin, it's supposed to be very
effective. You can't really hook it up into Evolution unless you're
using 1.1 and feeling a bit adventurous, but if that's not a problem,
I'd recommend it (though not having used it myself.)

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] RFE: ability to add headers to "standard" display.

2002-04-22 Thread Peter Williams

On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 17:11, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> I'd like to be able to see the SpamAssassin and SpamBouncer headers that
> get added in the "standard" display. 
> 

Assuming that you want to see those headers so you can figure out
whether a message is spam or not, a simpler thing to do might be to set
up some filters to sort messages based on the content of those headers.

That doesn't necessarily have any effect on the question of whether we
should let people display custom headers, but I thought I'd mention it.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Feature Request: IMAP Folders on the Summary page

2002-04-16 Thread Peter Williams

On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 10:40, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 06:22, Alec Edworthy wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Would it be possible to allow the adding of IMAP folders onto the
> > Summary page like you can add normal folders now?
> 
> This is implemented on the unstable version on CVS.
> 

Um, it may be implemented, but right now the mail summary doesn't work
at all for me. Even local folders don't show up. I'm attaching a patch
to the shell and summary which gets things kinda-sorta working, but
there are still issues:

* Folders with counts of -1/-1 show up
* The folder selector shows noselect folders wrong
* I need to change the sort style of the folder selector in order to
see any folders there
* Folder names are weird
* Probably other stuff that I forget or haven't realized.

Peter

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Index: shell/ChangeLog
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/shell/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.904
diff -u -r1.904 ChangeLog
--- shell/ChangeLog 10 Apr 2002 19:01:08 -  1.904
+++ shell/ChangeLog 16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -1,3 +1,8 @@
+2002-04-16  Peter Williams  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+
+   * e-corba-storage-registry.c (impl_StorageRegistry_addStorage): Notify
+   listeners when a storage is added.
+
 2002-04-10  Dan Winship  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
* e-shell-config.c: Shell config page routines. Right now
Index: shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c,v
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -r1.17 e-corba-storage-registry.c
--- shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c9 Apr 2002 14:59:26 -   1.17
+++ shell/e-corba-storage-registry.c16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -107,6 +107,7 @@
ECorbaStorageRegistryPrivate *priv;
EStorage *storage;
GNOME_Evolution_StorageListener listener_interface;
+   GSList *iter;
 
bonobo_object = bonobo_object_from_servant (servant);
storage_registry = E_CORBA_STORAGE_REGISTRY (bonobo_object);
@@ -123,6 +124,12 @@
}
 
gtk_object_unref (GTK_OBJECT (storage));
+
+   /* FIXME: if we remove a listener while looping through the list we can
+* crash. Yay CORBA reentrancy. */
+
+   for (iter = priv->listeners; iter; iter = iter->next)
+   listener_notify (iter->data, 
+GNOME_Evolution_StorageRegistry_STORAGE_CREATED, name);
 
listener_interface = CORBA_Object_duplicate 
(e_corba_storage_get_StorageListener
 (E_CORBA_STORAGE (storage)), ev);
Index: my-evolution/ChangeLog
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/my-evolution/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.180
diff -u -r1.180 ChangeLog
--- my-evolution/ChangeLog  9 Apr 2002 15:06:10 -   1.180
+++ my-evolution/ChangeLog  16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -1,3 +1,15 @@
+2002-04-16  Peter Williams  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+
+   * e-summary-mail.c (e_summary_folder_register_storage): Use
+   correct signal names: new-folder -> new_folder, same for
+   removed_folder.
+   (e_summary_mail_generate_html): Loop through folder_store->shown,
+   not mail->shown.
+   (struct _ESummaryMail): the shown member is unused.
+   (new_folder_cb): Don't restrict ourselves to vfolders and locally
+   stored folders. Try to guess the toplevel URI of the storage
+   if possible.
+
 2002-04-08  Dan Winship  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
* component-factory.c (create_view): Add view_info arg but don't
Index: my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/gnome/evolution/my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c,v
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -u -r1.37 e-summary-mail.c
--- my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c   4 Apr 2002 12:10:36 -   1.37
+++ my-evolution/e-summary-mail.c   16 Apr 2002 23:29:29 -
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@

GHashTable *folders;
 #endif 
-   GList *shown;
+   /*GList *shown;*/
ESummaryMailMode mode;
 
char *html;
@@ -154,7 +154,7 @@
g_free (s);
g_string_append (string, "");

-   for (p = mail->shown; p; p = p->next) {
+   for (p = folder_store->shown; p; p = p->next) {
folder_gen_html (summary, p->data, string);
}
 
@@ -173,7 +173,7 @@
 {
/* Only regenerate HTML when it's needed */
e_summary_mail_generate_html (summary);
-   
+
if (summary-&g

[Evolution] [Fwd: japanese not displaying correctly.]

2002-02-05 Thread Peter Williams



--- Begin Message ---




--- Begin Message ---

This topic was covered but unresolved in july 2001.  
overview:
http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/gtkhtml/2001-July/000168.html

This problem looks the same on my machine, but I've figured out a twist
to things.  I can view my japanese emails in galeon and emacs using the
fixed (sony) font.  When I tell gtkhtml to use that font, it seems to
ignore my request and continues to use the fixed(jis) font.  Yes I am
explicitly requesting the sony version in my .gnome/gtkhtml file.  I can
tell it's the other fixed font because... that's what the text looks
like :).  The sony font has big ugly serifs on the roman characters, and
I'm not seeing them in ev.

if you need more info please email me

owen williams

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Re: [Evolution] delete selects next message

2001-12-15 Thread Peter Williams

On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 13:23, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
> > Also is there a way to delete an email w/o opening it?
> > thanks
> 
> What I doo is select hte message before it, hold the shift and select
> teh message after it, you should now have three messages selected. 
> Press and hold the control key and de-select the fist and last message,
> now the message in the middle is still selected.
> 

I press 'q' to turn off the message view pane, select and delete the
message, then press 'q' to turn it back on.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Japanese text input

2001-12-02 Thread Peter Williams

On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 22:13, Damien Miller wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to be able to write (and read) the occasional Japanese
> email in Evolution (which rocks BTW). I haven't been able to find any
> documentation on how I could go about this - can anyone point me to
> some?
> 

This came up on this list about a week ago. Hopefully the following
thread in the online archives will help:

http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2001-November/015042.html

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Default view.

2001-11-18 Thread Peter Williams

On Sun, 2001-11-18 at 22:55, George Farris wrote:
> Is there any way to set a default view?  I want Evo to come up in
> Summary view no matter what I was doing when I exited last.  It's really
> a pain to always have to click  Summary before exiting.
> 

There's no way to do so from the UI, but one workaround is to run 

evolution evolution:/Summary

which will cause it to load that folder automatically.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] I feel like a novice

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 06 Jul 2001 12:52:07 -0400, lehi wrote:
> I thought about gal, and then i checked "gnome-config --modversion
> gal" and it returned gal-0.8
> 

CVS HEAD gal is even newer -- 'gal-0.8.99.8' is what you want if you're
compiling HEAD evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] I feel like a novice

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 06 Jul 2001 11:57:40 -0400, lehi wrote:
> Hey everybody.  I upgraded to Slackware 8.0 (still not sure if that was
> the BEST idea, but I'm sticking with it) and I'm having problems
> compiling evo.  

Your autoconf error is truly weird -- I have no idea what could be
causing this. Verify your installation of the autotools and gettext, I
guess -- maybe they are old versions?

As for your compile error, you need a newer GAL. If you're compiling CVS
evolution, you'll need CVS gal. ** I think ** Evolution 0.10 needs GAL
0.7.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Hey where did my forward inline go?

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 05 Jul 2001 22:40:02 -0700, George Farris wrote:
> 
> Like the subject says, the latest snapshot seems to have made a
> disappearing act of the forward inline menu item.  Can we please, please
> have it back.
> 

I can still find it in Actions -> Forward As -> Forward Inline.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Oaf-slay in gdm/Postsession

2001-07-06 Thread Peter Williams

On 05 Jul 2001 22:29:09 -0700, George Farris wrote:
> Even with all the latest updates I still find I have to put oaf-slay in
> my /etc/gdm/Postsession/Defaults file or Evolution is slow like
> a dog.  I had heard reports that this was fixed.  Is there any news on
> this?
> 

It is fixed on the CVS oaf (branch oaf-stable-0-6) but Ximian hasn't yet
pushed an RPM with the fix installed. Either install oaf yourself
(carefully!) or bug the distribution people to push an update.

Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution startup problem

2001-07-05 Thread Peter Williams

On 05 Jul 2001 18:41:07 -0700, b g wrote:
> I've been gettinh the following errors while starting
> Evolution.
> 

By the way, the output that you quoted is normal, not signifying errors.
However evolution-mail is crashing so obviously there's a problem :-)

Please follow these instructions:

1. Open two xterms
2. Run killev
3. In one terminal, export the environment variable
'CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1'
4. In the same terminal run 'gdb evolution-mail'
5. In gdb, type 'run' to start evolution-mail
6. Wait for evolution-mail to initialize (~10 seconds)
7. In the other terminal, run evolution
8. Do whatever you need to do to cause the segfault
9. In gdb, once evolution-mail segfaults, type 'info threads'
10. For each thread listed, type 'thread N' and then 'bt'
where N is a number listed by the 'info threads' command
11. File a bug report at bugzilla.ximian.com and paste all the
output from gdb after the 'info threads', and any interesting
output from evolution-mail before it crashed.

Thanks,
Peter

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Re: [Evolution] evo delays

2001-06-29 Thread Peter Williams

On 29 Jun 2001 08:26:19 -0500, Charles R. Tersteeg wrote:
> I fixed this by:
> 
> 1.  closing evolution and all other apps
> 2.  removing the /tmp/orbit-username directory
> 3.  log out and log back in
> 
> this should create a new /tmp/orbit which should result in a faster load
> of evolution.
> 
> later,
> chuck
> 

Probably an 'oaf-slay' would have done the trick. Oaf has a bug that
causes activations to take a long time (it's been fixed but the fix
hasn't been put on Redcarpet yet.)

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Re: [Evolution] Accessing IMAP folder puts Evo into endless loop

2001-06-27 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Dan,

On 27 Jun 2001 10:01:51 -0600, Dan Hensley wrote:
> Here you go.  Let me know if you need anything else...
> 

Aha. Somehow evolution-mail is getting stuck while trying to communicate
with the shell. Usually this means either the shell is crashing or it is
locking somewhere. It'd be obvious if it were crashing so I guess the
shell is the actual culprit. If you don't mind getting /another/
backtrace, one from the evolution executable would be helpful...

Thanks,
    Peter

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Re: [Evolution] Accessing IMAP folder puts Evo into endless loop

2001-06-27 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Dan,

On 27 Jun 2001 09:26:52 -0600, Dan Hensley wrote:
> 
> I don't know if this backtrace helps.  Do I need to get the other
> threads as well?
> 
> Dan

Right, yes, the other threads. Can you do this?

Thanks,
    Peter
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Re: [Evolution] Accessing IMAP folder puts Evo into endless loop

2001-06-26 Thread Peter Williams

Hi Dan,

On 26 Jun 2001 22:36:50 -0600, Dan Hensley wrote:
> I sent this out several days ago but still haven't seen a response, and
> the problem still exists.  When I click on the Inbox of my IMAP folder,
> Evolution goes into an endless loop that uses 100% CPU and never comes
> back.  Here's the last bit out output from evolution-mail, which
> probably doesn't help much.  I doctored it up a bit to protect my
> privacy.
> 

Can you please:

1) Open up 2 terminals
2) Run 'gdb evolution-mail' in one terminal and 'run' it
3) Wait five seconds
4) Run 'evolution' in the other terminal
5) Cause the infinite loop
6) Press ^C in the gdb
7) Get a backtrace with 'bt'

? That would be helpful.

Thanks,
Peter



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Re: [Evolution] some problems

2001-06-21 Thread Peter Williams

On 21 Jun 2001 21:02:28 +0930, Not Zed wrote:
> > Q: is it - or will it be in future versions - possible to use nested
> > vfolders in order to organize mails?
> 
> Not yet, but one day i guess.
> 

/me gets lightbulb over head

If a vfolder has another vfolder as its source (which is okay, right?)
then it could go as that vfolder's child in the folder tree.

This totally breaks if a vfolder has more than one vfolder as its
source, but it would be soooo sexy.

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Re: [Evolution] Feature Request Mail - read next unread message

2001-06-16 Thread Peter Williams

On 16 Jun 2001 09:53:32 -0500, Charles R. Tersteeg wrote:
> I would like to see a "read next button"( and keystroke) for selecting
> the next unread message in the folder.  It would be easier to reading.
> 

Simply press 'n'.

(We really need to document these keybindings somewhere.)

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Re: [Evolution] gnome 1.4

2001-04-12 Thread Peter Williams

On 10 Apr 2001 22:13:45 -0400, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> On 07 Apr 2001 10:54:57 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> > I just measured it: 12 seconds !
> > And I think sometimes it's slower.
> > I have a PII 300MHz, but when waiting for this dialog processor and disk
> > are idle.
> > RedHat 6.2, Ximian Gnome 1.4Beta, latest Evo snapshot (all by RedCarpet)
> 
>   Wow.  Can you please try running all the components into GDB and see
> where they are blocking?
> 
>   I am using 2.2.18 here and I am not experiencing this slowness.

So, upon further investigation, adding

unsetenv ("SESSION_MANAGER");

to cvs/gnome/oaf/oafd/main.c fixes the problem. Huzzah.

[Hm, I sent my explanation for why this works from my @newton.cx address
again, so it might not arrive on the mailing list.]

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Re: [Evolution] gnome 1.4

2001-04-10 Thread Peter Williams

On 10 Apr 2001 22:13:45 -0400, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> On 07 Apr 2001 10:54:57 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> > I just measured it: 12 seconds !
> > And I think sometimes it's slower.
> > I have a PII 300MHz, but when waiting for this dialog processor and disk
> > are idle.
> > RedHat 6.2, Ximian Gnome 1.4Beta, latest Evo snapshot (all by RedCarpet)
> 
>   Wow.  Can you please try running all the components into GDB and see
> where they are blocking?
> 
>   I am using 2.2.18 here and I am not experiencing this slowness.
> 

I just tried using GDB and strace to look at this problem; what I'm
getting is that libICE for some reason is doing several sleep(1)'s at
some poin while attempting to connect to the session manager. The
backtrace from GDB (not sure if this is what is actually causing the
slowness):

#0  0x40859c41 in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40859bcd in __sleep (seconds=1) at
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sleep.c:82
#2  0x40495abe in ConnectToPeer () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6
#3  0x404950b5 in IceOpenConnection () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6
#4  0x4048919d in SmcOpenConnection () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6
#5  0x403cbc76 in gnome_client_connect () at gnome-client.c:1225
#6  0x403cb2d4 in client_parse_func (ctx=0x8072bd0,
reason=POPT_CALLBACK_REASON_POST, opt=0x0, arg=0x0, data=0x0) at
gnome-client.c:871
#7  0x406f9b53 in invokeCallbacks (con=0x8072bd0, table=0x4044f120,
post=1) at popt.c:56
#8  0x406f9b1e in invokeCallbacks (con=0x8072bd0, table=0x8072ac8,
post=1) at popt.c:51
#9  0x406fa441 in poptGetNextOpt () at popt.c:297
#10 0x406f1189 in gnomelib_parse_args () at gnome-popt.c:100
#11 0x403f4f34 in gnome_init_with_popt_table () at gnome-init.c:299
#12 0x8059426 in init_corba (argc=0xba88, argv=0xbacc) at
main.c:42
#13 0x805944a in init_bonobo (argc=0xba88, argv=0xbacc) at
main.c:79
#14 0x80594d4 in main (argc=3, argv=0xbacc) at main.c:94

And the relevant output from strace:

nanosleep({1, 0}, {1, 0})   = 0
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 6
uname({sys="Linux", node="beta", ...})  = 0
connect(6, {sun_family=AF_UNIX, sun_path="/tmp/.ICE-unix/3027"}, 21) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(6)= 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [CHLD], 8) = 0
[Same pattern repeats several times]
nanosleep({1, 0}, {1, 0})   = 0
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 6
uname({sys="Linux", node="beta", ...})  = 0
connect(6, {sun_family=AF_UNIX, sun_path="/tmp/.ICE-unix/3027"}, 21) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(6)= 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [CHLD], 8) = 0
nanosleep({1, 0}, {1, 0})   = 0
write(2, "\n", 1)   = 1
write(2, "GnomeUI", 7)  = 7
write(2, "-", 1)= 1
write(2, "WARNING **: ", 12)= 12
write(2, "While connecting to session mana"..., 67) = 67
write(2, "\n", 1)   = 1

Hm, wish I could see the rest of that warning message :-)

-- 
Peter Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Why should I have to change my name? He's the one who 
sucks!"  -- Michael Bolton


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