Re: [Evolution] Two folders open side by side?
On Wed, 2022-11-16 at 19:07 +0100, Andreas Fournier via evolution-list wrote: > I would like to copy mails from one folder to another, but some of > the mails already exist in the target folder, so I would like to copy > selectively. Is it possible to have two folders open at the same time > side by side and to copy from one to the the other? Sure, you can simply open the UI twice and drag-n-drop between them. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Freezing and IPv6
On Mon, 2022-10-31 at 13:35 -0400, my-no-spam--- via evolution-list wrote: > I've noticed that if I enable IPv6, evolution just hangs opening my > mail and sometimes just freezes if left open. If I disable IPv6, the > application performs like a rock star. Any ideas where I might start > troubleshooting this? I have watched the network connectivity and, > from > what I see, it appears that only one of the three connections to the > remote server actually gets established. Is the remote server IMAP? Sometimes it is handy to test the connection with openssl just to see if it can get setup. openssl s_client -connect server.domain:port -starttls imap https://djangocas.dev/blog/test-tls-connectivity-with-openssl/ Then move on to using the CAMEL debugging CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:debug,imapx:extra evolution >& logfile https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging It really seems likely that an IPv6 issue is a network issue; once the socket is open the application really doesn't care. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] New mailing list
On Sun, 2022-10-23 at 13:16 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > As problematic as the Discourse email support is, I think I'd prefer > itto groups.io. Maybe my experience is an outlier. I agree, and I'd go over to Discourse if I could but ... """Your account associated with this email address has been silenced.""" And nothing on my account page, etc... indicates anything about this status. There's nothing I can do. I have a two year old message saying I can't use e-mail until it is "reviewed by staff". I love Evolution & GNOME, use it all day every day, have since the days of Ximian, will continue to do so . . . but if this is what participation is then it isn't worth the hassle. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Discourse -- Insufficient Trust Level
On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 13:42 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 14:25 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution- > listwrote: > > Hi,discourse is crap². I'm forwarding an original HTML email > > [1].We’re sorry, but your email message to[“ > > applicati...@discourse.gnome.org”] (titled [Evolution] The irks > > andquirks of the migration from evolution-list to discourse) > > didn’twork.Your account does not have the required trust level to > > post newtopics to this email address. If you believe this is an > > error,contact a staff member. > > > > Yup. You're a new user so not trusted to do things. See > https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/ I show as level 1, yet recieve """Your account associated with this email address has been silenced.""" ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
On Thu, 2022-10-20 at 12:47 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > If this is real, then the "communicating" has been sadly lacking. > This is the first I've heard of it. I've been seeing these communications on other lists for quite some time. > 20 years of helping the Evolution community and it looks like it's > the end. Yep, same. Discourse is a dreadful user experience. I've tried replying, I believe I ended up blocked for some reason. I gave up. It's Internet 3.0 or something, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reading emails and threading
> Threading has nothing to do with including quoted messages in > replies, either directly or as attachments. That's something else > entirely. You can do that if you want, but it's not threading. This! Threading is unrelated to quoting other than by cultural practices. Notice that this messages is threaded, my response is below the relevant text of the previous message, and all extraneous stuff has been deleted. That some clients (Outlook & Gmail) make appropriately edited replaces very difficult also isn't about threading. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reading emails and threading
On Sat, 2022-09-24 at 08:32 -0500, c. marlow wrote: > I am just curious to know, do any of ya'll read your emails in > threads? Always threaded. Honestly cannot understand how people use unthreaded e-mail. > Does EVO even support this feature? Of course it does. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Compose plain text emails that render well on MS Outlook
On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 08:08 -0300, Jorge P. de Morais Neto via evolution-list wrote: > Hi. I reply below: > Em [2022-09-19 seg 00:54:15+0200], Ángel escreveu: > > If the problem is only surfacing on the signature, maybe you could > > setup your signature with doubled newlines? > thank you for the tip, but that would add five newlines to my > messages, which I think would be too much. More exotic suggestion: just skip the signature. They were useful once upon a time, long ago; today they really accomplish nothing. Including anything but your name is largely a waste of time. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Forwarding a mail to action fraud that is potentially fraudulent
> The mail must be using different SMTP servers. It's unlikely that an > SMTP server would treat mail differently from different clients. There is the possibility that the mobile device mail client doesn't deal with errors; it either silently - and obliviously - fails or leaves the message in "Outbox" or some other holding bin, potentially forever. I've seen this behavior, in the 21st century, unfortunately. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 11:22 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 09:57 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > In the past, when the config > > was stored in dconf, it was a bit more complicated since the dconf > > keys needed to be dumped and then backed up. But now everything is > > stored in .config/evolution. > for what it's worth, most of the things in the Preferences (and in > other parts) are still stored in the GSettings, which usually means > DConf, which the backup/restore does back up and restore. This is a useful addendum to any backup: gsettings list-recursively My backup procedure dumps the output of that to a file that is included in the backup. You can dump a 'restored' system and diff the two files to discover what you had changed [but have no recollection of] and restore the setting(s) using the same command. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution
> My guess is, that Evolution isn't the culprit, but tar is the > culprit. The only reliable mechanism to verify a tar archive is valid is to table it. :( Table-After-Creation is a good rule. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Restoring Evolution
> Thanks, Luigi. The USB hard drive was not disconnected at all. > Evolution did the backup and finished. Could the size of the file > caused the problem? Potentially, there are a lot of variables. Depending on the filesystem of the USB drive the file could be limited to ~2GB or ~4GB. It is always good to verify a backup file is valid [yes, optimally a tool will tell you about all possible failures - in reality this very rarely happens, even with tools designed for that purpose]. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail
On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 17:24 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 06:08 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > Nevertheless, I want to add email through POP; I *really* don't > > want > > to keep anything in google's hands. > Up to you of course, but that logic doesn't make sense to me. +1,000,000,000 > Furthermore, keeping your mail on Google's servers is a convenient > way of being able to access it from anywhere, with or without > Evolution. And a 'feature' provided by any IMAP service. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and gmail
On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 06:08 -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > Greetings, > I have been trying to add one of my email accounts to Nevertheless, I > want to add email through POP; I *really* don't want > to keep anything in google's hands. If you are using gmail as a POP server everything is still in Google's hands. If this is actually a concern you should consider a different mail provider [fastmail.fm?] I strongly encourage NOT using POP. It is an old protocol AND IT ADDS NO VALUE, none what-so-ever. It doesn't, do not believe anyone who tells you otherwise. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rescheduling events in any android app kills evolution "run a program" reminder
On Mon, 2022-07-11 at 08:55 -0500, roachoaz--- via evolution-list wrote: > The problem is that when you reschedule the event in any calendar on > android (specifically, etar and simple calendar tools, as well as a > bunch of closed sourced calendars from the app store), the "run a > program" reminder gets turned into a standard reminder. Assuming you are using a WebDAV/CalDAV calendar [otherwise I don't know how multiple apps are inter-operating with it]. The ALARM function of VEVENT [CalDAV events] data is extremely fickle; every app or server the event passes through may rewrite the data, discarding what it does not understand. Likely most applications drop the in-program syntax [technically they shouldn't as the convention is to try to preserve the VEVENT as-is from the client - but that is much harder in practice than theory]. > This is incredibly frustrating, Yes. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Connectivity warning
On Thu, 2022-07-07 at 01:43 +0200, Ángel wrote: > > laptop the same way that a Windows user does - that's the whole > > point. For whatever reason, I'm having snags with Samba > > and winbind refreshing Kerb tickets properly. That's nothing to do > > with Evo and evo-ews but the side effects are really > > annoying. There is a GNOME shell extension for refreshing Kerberos tickets. https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1165/kerberos-login/ -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 openSUSE, a LINUX desktop for humans who need to get work done. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Something changed ...
On Tue, 2022-06-28 at 14:39 -0500, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > In previous versions, I had address completion. That is start an > email, start typing the first few letters > of the email address and Evolution would popup a completion list. > For example, if I typed in evo, I would > be shown evolution-list@gnome.org and evolution-hack...@gnome.org as > possible completions. Have you verified that "Autocomplete with this address book" is checked for the addressbooks in question? -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please
On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 13:47 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2022-06-27 at 20:05 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Does your local mail system (I mean MTA, not Evolution) use mbox or > > Maildir? > No idea,it's what ever Debian defaults to. Exactly! > I've never messed with thosesettings because I have never needed to. > The local mail used to work just fine, somewhere during upgrades > something changed and now it doesn't work correctly. That's entirely possible; and it is up to your distribution [Debian] how to do local mail. And, yes, they change sometimes; when they did it was most certainly in their release notes. I'd categorizing leaning on the local mail system of a UNIX/LINUX **workstation** to be a very odd choice, it usually is not completely configured - if you want the local mail system on a workstation configured a particular way then you are now a Sys-Admin and need to do that. > To me, Gnome forgot something. Nope, this has nothing to do with GNOME. You are using a setting that explicitly reaches outside the GNOME bubble. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 22:28 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 23:18 +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa wrote: > > Dnia 24.06.2022 o godz. 11:33:36 Tim McConnell via evolution-list > > pisze: > > > So it gets converted to HTML to display plain text??? So when I > > > reply > > > to this mail list/ email in plain text it goes to HTML first (and > > > yes I > > > meant viewing)? So if I view the messages via mutt (or similar) > > > it > > > shouldn't do it? These are cron job reports from programs like > > > rtkithunter and apticron (notification of available updates) I'm > > I use mutt a lot and I've never seen mutt hog CPU when displaying > > local > > mail, even with very big messages. > And I've never seen Evolution do it unless it's a multi-megabyte > message. I've experienced the issue here and there with smaller messages with lots of v-e-r-y long uwrappable lines. I take it as an indication that some things don't belong in the body of an e-mail. An inappropriate use of a tool always yields problematic results. [~30 years in IT speaking] It's also fun to get a message in Mutt, Apline, etc... which has strings equivalent to terminal control characters buried in a message. Talk about weird behavior... Log files, if in e-mail, should be text/plain attachments. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 openSUSE, a LINUX desktop for humans who need to get work done. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Help me understand something please
On Fri, 2022-06-24 at 11:33 -0500, Tim McConnell via evolution-list wrote: > > The place you read the message content is covered by the WebKitGTK. > > Everything is converted into HTML for viewing (and writing). > > How do I get it to stop hogging my CPU? > > You can try shorter logs/reports, but that doesn't scale. I would strongly encourage you to ATTACH things like logs to a message rather than including them in the body. There are issues of not only size but line length and code page [logs don't really have one]. > meant viewing)? So if I view the messages via mutt (or similar) it > shouldn't do it? Correct, comparing a GUI and a TUI application is Apples & Oranges. > These are cron job reports from programs like > rtkithunter and apticron (notification of available updates) I'm > reasonably sure there's little I could do to shrink them. ATTACH them, do not include them as the body. Also consider an NMS; a software package you can simply ship logs to for viewing an analysis. That's way better than anything you can do by shoehorning logs into e-mail. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution - Dealing with groups
On Thu, 2022-05-05 at 21:38 -0700, Ubuntu Shoto Dojo wrote: > How can I receive from a group? SMTP has no concept of a group; the upshot is there is nothing in the message envelope [headers, etc...] which indicate a message was sent to a group. What "group" means is always an implementation detail of the client and/or server. > I need to receive response (or unexpected messages from the group and > put them together (group them) in a folder. I can find nothing in > the filters which seem to have any such ability, maybe[Sender] [is in > group] [specific Contact List] I, in 30 years [including as a groupware developer], have never seen such a feature. > This is non-trivial (and perhaps a killer to use Evolution), as I > currently have 17 folders into which I need to sort incoming emails, > based on 50+ contact lists, ranging from 6 entries to 250+ entries in > the list. Trying to manually maintain individual email addresses in > filters as thingschange is a complete no-go. Can you really find no other solution to achieve whatever The Goal of this usecase is? Doing truly tortuous things with e-mail is rarely the best - or only - approach. Filter on an inbound list of 250+ e- mail addresses... as an Administrator my immediate response to a user doing such a thing would be "Don't do that; what are you attempting to achieve?" Or you need a server side solution; this isn't an appropriate task for an e-mail client. > Is there some way to compare an incoming email address to a Contact > List? If you want to attempt to implement something like this Client-Side I suspect the correct answer would be to use the "pipe to program" Condition. Then write a script that talks to EDS and compares to groups [this is non-trivial, but likely the only correct way] Or run a server; this is something Postfix can do. Again non-trivial. > Is there any documentation for the storage format for > 1) Contacts and Contact Lists > 2) Filters > because I could write (bash/awk/perl/whatever) scripts to update the > filters based on the lists, if that is all that is available. Don't do that. You can talk to EDS via D-Bus or libfolks(?), do not grouse around inside files. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Strange result from copying
> I think it's an artifact of some web page generators maybe switching > to UTF-8. > I also noticed that in some cases, highlighting a paragraph, copying > to the clipboard (Ctrl-C), and trying to paste it (Ctrl-V) does > nothing. > The workaround for both of these is not to select the last character > of the paragraph. Yes, true of all applications, all platforms: Copy-n-paste from web browsers is broken. Also there are security issues from copy-n-paste from web browsers. I bounce-paste everything from a web browser through my text editor. That is the only way, there is no other solution to this problem, the problem is web browsers. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Shortcut with number from numeric keyboard fails
... > The shortcut works fine with the number key "3" from the main > keyboard but nothing happens if I press the number key "3" on the > numeric keyboard. > Is there a way to have both number keys "3" react as shortcuts? Yep. The keys have different names. In a terminal window run "xev" and you can see all the key events with their labels. In most cases 3 is "3" and keypad 3 is something like "KP_3". -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Open links in the background? (Firefox)
> > by Evolution. IOW this might be a missing feature for Evolution. > > Actually I didn't check if such a feature does already exist for > > Evolution, too. I just haven't seen one. > Hm, if xdg runs the same script for all apps that want to open the > default browser, it would be possible to get the window that is > focused when clicking the link, to buffer that window information and > after running the browser and losing focus, to immediately set focus > back to the buffered window. So I was mistaken, xdg is good enough > and should be usable to launch a script using wmctrl and maybe > xdotool. Yep, you can do anything you like - a process can easily determine its parent. You can do something as complicated as you like; you could write a python shim that determined what to do with the link-open based on a configuration file, recorded every link in a database, etc... -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Open links in the background? (Firefox)
> It only works, if Firefox is already running. > To workaround window issues scripts using the command wmctrl and the > command xdotool are usually helpful. However, in this case a mailer > providing an option to chose the external browser or script would be > helpful. I don't know if Evolution has got such an option or if it does > run the default browser. Evolution relies on XDG; you can set the browser to any command you'd like. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] contacts - People API vs. Contacts API
On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 18:16 +, David Charlton wrote: > Evolution/Google have been complaining for sometime about the > contacts versus people api used in evolution saying contact api is > depricated. Are you confusing CalDAV (CardDAV) and Contact API? > Google now say it is "sunsetted" post June 2021 i.e. not saupported > so I am not sure how it keeps working?? See > https://developers.google.com/contacts/v3/announcement > Looking at libgdata there is some activity but it doesn't seem a > hugely supported library and no talk of moving to people api that I > can see. If it uses CalDAV and works then I wouldn't expect a lot of activity. WebDAV/CalDAV/CardDAV are standards, not some proprietary pile of slop like some vendor's API. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4791 -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] multiple pop accounts and legacy archive
> > a modern multi-account email system. I'm sorry your experience of it > > has been tainted by other MUAs twisting into something it was never > > designed to be. > That is certainly the case; I'll try IMAP then. The best move; it sounds to me like what you want is an IMAP *server*. You can run one locally and use Evolution (or any IMAP client) to connect to it. Since you want to shuttle mail around from multiple accounts I'd look at fetchmail. A MUA (which Evolution is) isn't really the correct tool for these kinds of machinations. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reading Plain Text Messages as Markdown
On Thu, 2021-11-18 at 19:46 +0200, Amit Yaron wrote: > Markdown is a great format. > I will appreciate it if you add the option to format plain text > messages as Markdown. This feature sort of already exists - use an external editor that recognizes and support Markdown (for example: GNOME Text Editor). This would be a strange core feature for an e-mail client. Message text in Markdown isn't a standard. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail merge
On Sat, 2021-10-30 at 14:19 +0100, Keith Barber wrote: > Is it possible to use Evolution to mailmerge to multiple recipients > using information from a database? If so, would someone point me to > somewhere I might read how to do it? Evolution per-se cannot to Mail Merge. However you can mail merge with Libreoffice which can integrate with the Evolution addressbook. https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG71/WG7114-MailMerge.html -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unsubscribed folders reappear
> > OK, but the principle is the same. The IMAP folder subscriptions > > are held on the server. In this case the "server" is DavMail. > I haven't used DavMail for a long time, but I seem to remember that > when I did use it, it didn't support subscribe/unsubscribe. Perhaps > it would be good to turn on logging for DavMail to see what it's > doing. But I don't think this is an Evolution issue. As of v5.6 DavMail does *not* support IMAP subscribe/unsubscribe. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to add a Send later button
On Sat, 2021-08-21 at 19:08 +0200, Pierre THOMAS via evolution-list wrote: > With Send later I mean save an email in a folder like Awaiting > emails where I am able to check an important email an the attached > files, to check the detailed list of all recipients if I used a group > of contacts as recipient. > (This is a feature of Thunderbird I used ...) > Saving the email as a draft may replace Send later ... Yep, this is the Drafts feature. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Feature request - Mail Snooze
On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 06:26 +0200, Louis van Dyk wrote: > I wanted to pass an idea around the circle for a feature request. > GMAIL introduced a feature that I really enjoy. If I've read a mail > that I don't have time to get to I can "Snooze" it, giving the time I > want it to reappear. The snoozed mail then pops up in my Inbox again > at the due time, back at the top of my Inbox, so not lost in the many > mails way down below. > I think what I am asking for is a way to be reminded about a message > at a particular time. Maybe the Flag can be used, but have an option > to set a reminder date and time? The canon way to do this, IMO, is (Message)->Create->Create Task; and then use tasks. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problems Splitting a Contact
On Sat, 2021-08-14 at 11:15 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > I used to have a single contact for Bob and Wendy Doe, but now need > two contacts, since they have different email addresses. (Is this > really necessary? Comments welcome.) I don't understand what you are attempting to accomplish. Why not simply create a new contact and revise the old one? > I thought I'd duplicate the contact for "Bob & Wendy Doe); but this > doesn't seem to be possible; file systems allow making copies of > files to other files with similar names like say > $ cp -a foo foo.bk An addressbook is not a file system. > So I thought I'd copy the contact for Bob from my Personal > contact list into another list called KeyNames, then edit the two > copies so that the one in Personal is for Bob Doe and the one in > KeyNames is for Wendy Doe; then copy the one in KeyNames (for Wendy > Doe) back to Personal. This fails; I get a message warning of a UID > conflict. Expected; there's no event involved which would trigger reconstituting the UID. Frankly, as a WebDAV/CardDAV/CalDAV developer, this is a flaw in vCard/vEvent/vToDo; there really is not a fully working scheme for id'ing an object. > Well, thought I, I'll export the contact for Wendy Doe from KeyNames > as a vcard and import this back into Personal. This also fails for > the same reason, but silently; if I edit the vcard to remove the > line: > UID:pas-id-419866BF00A3 > everything works. > Expected. If there is no UID one is created. > I can't be the only person who has needed to do this kind of thing. > Questions: > Would it be practical to allow contacts to be duplicated within the > same list? Sure, but the use case is very narrow. This is easily enough accomplished by the composite action of creating a new contact and editing the old one. Also, again, as a WedDAV/CardDAV, et al developer - don't create compound contacts. When you do so you are violating the object model, which will eventually always have side effects. > What is the function of the UID in a vcard? Is it necessary? It is the Unique ID of the vCard. Yes it is necessary. And the vCard is a 'dumb' object; it expects the client to manage the UID (which sometimes isn't really possible). ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 12:31 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 06:49 -0400, David Frier wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 06:39 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > Evolution is a mail client for a desktop > > > environment. If someone wants always-on automated services then > > > that's > > > what servers are for; there are service-side filtering systems > > > such as > > > SIEVE. > > Sorry, this is just so wrong. > But in this specific case you do not "press Send". It is the filter > action that is "sending" the email. It is also operationally incorrect. When you press send it goes to an Outbox and may-or-may-not immediately go to A SERVER which is not the destination. That server may hold the message, the message will in most use-cases relay through the spools of multiple servers. > however your email gets to you via a server surely. It is on that > server that filtering such as this should arguably happen. Many email > services already implement server side filtering (such as SIEVE) and > you may get a better experience by investigating what your mail > server provides. This. In 2021 what IMAP provider does not provide a server-side filtering solution? -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Rules bug?
On Sun, 2021-07-25 at 23:55 +0200, Ángel wrote: > On 2021-07-21 at 10:28 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > > the idea behind the default value is that the filters may forward > > multiple message, thus it's better to pile them up and flush the > > Outbox at once, rather than connect to the sending server for each > > message separately. > If you receive 5 emails, and 3 of them match a rule (or two) which > forward them to both Alice and Bob, it makes sense not to create 6 > separate connections, but to batch them at once. I concur; e-mail (SMTP) has always been a store-n-forward scheme which depends on spooling and batching. E-mail is not a form of instant messaging. > However, I think the expectation would be that they _do_ get sent > automatically, not that the user will need a manual outbox flush. > The tricky part would be when mixed with normal outbox mail. I am on the fence. Evolution is a mail client for a desktop environment. If someone wants always-on automated services then that's what servers are for; there are service-side filtering systems such as SIEVE. This seems like an example of use-the-right-tool-for-the-job. > Trying to make it behave as expected without complicating it, maybe > it could do something like this: Is it possible to ask Evolution to send/receive via d-bus? If that is possible a very simple external app - or script - could request Evolution s every n minutes. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Display Calendar Events on Calendar
On Fri, 2021-07-02 at 00:04 -0400, Holden Rohrer via evolution-list wrote: > I'm trying to use Evolution to view my CALDAV and Microsoft 365 > calendars on my Linux desktop, but the events I've created only show > up under the "To Do" panel on the mail tab and none on the calendar > tab. Isthere a way to also show these events on the calendar tab? > It looks like this might have something to do with the events not > being marked as "appointments" since a handful of events in 2017 > imported from I cannot help with 365/EWS but with CALDAV - yes - an object is either a VTODO [a task which shows up on task list views] or a VEVENT [which appears on the calendar]. This is a fundamental part of the CALDAV/CARDDAV data model and isn't a bug in Evolution. If the objects are appointments the server needs to render them as such - Evolution is merely displaying what the server provides. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] trying to set "org.gnome.evolution.mail browser-close-on-delete-or-junk" to "true"
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 20:28 +1000, Antony Steele via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, I found a previous post and advice to use dconf-editor to set > "org.gnome.evolution.mail browser-close-on-delete-or-junk" to "true" > But, I can not find org.gnome.evolution.mail, so can not also find > "browser-close-on-delete-or-junk". > I can use dconf-editor to see org.gnome.evolution and > org.gnome.evolution-data-server, but no .mail can be found. I see org/gnome/evolution/mail in dconf-editor Evolution 3.34.4 (openSUSE LEAP 15.2) > I am running Evolution 3.40.0 on Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Failed to issue notify - error
On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 21:21 +0200, Lucas Merckelbach wrote: > I have been using evolution on mostly Fedora in the > research institute I work for about 11 years now. Today the institute > has officially changed its name, as well as email servers and all > that kind of ... > I am convinced that IT messed things up, but, because they support > windows only, they don't give my problem a second's thought. I have > no clue what is the issue here, and an extensive search on the web > has returned nothing. Would someone be able to explain what this > message means, and what might have caused it? Likely they migrated to an inferior server/service which does not support IMAP NOTIFY. Under the account's receiving preferences uncheck "Listen for server change notifications". I believe this will stop Evolution from sending NOTIFY requests. This sends the client back to the old poll-the- mailboxes-every-so-often method of yesteryear. > My version of evolution is 3.38.4 (3.38.4-1.fc33) -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Would this have side effects ?
On Sat, 2021-02-06 at 20:50 +0100, Volker Wysk wrote: > Anonymous Japhering said he wanted to point two evolution accounts to > the same mail server. So I thought the situation was similar. He'd have to be really fast to use both accounts at the same time. :) Assuming Notify is working. This was a more annoying behavior back in the days before 'push' notification. These days I often have the same IMAP account open in Outlook in a VM, and on my desktop in Evolution. As I delete, read, reply-to messages in Outlook I see them change in Evolution pretty quickly. [not so much the other way around, I don't think Outlook's IMAP Notify works, or maybe it doesn't support it at all?] ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Would this have side effects ?
On Sat, 2021-02-06 at 11:03 -0700, Zan Lynx wrote: > ... > > came first and deleted the message from the server. Then the second > > one got an error, because it tried to retrieve a message that was > > no longer there. In evolution (when being the second one), I got an > > error message > > "Cannot get message...". > One of the clients deleted (and expunged I assume) the message? > This "problem" falls into the set of "problems" that are user error. > OBVIOUSLY, if an email message is deleted then it is gone. The > question then would be why one of your clients is configured to do > that? Agree, that problem is only going to regularly beset a configuration that doesn't make sense. A mail store, like any concurrently accessibly database, is going to "suffer" from last-writer-wins, and such behavior falls under the same concept. Deleted is deleted; nothing is at fault. > Or use a local Maildir. Although I remember a few bugs with > Evolution and simultaneous Maildir access, it has been a long time > and I assume they were fixed. I suppose more that they are unfixable; if someone wants sane concurrent access -> use a server, in this case IMAP. Modern IMAP servers are pretty darn robust [Dovecot, Cyrus, etc...] An error when unable to retrieve a message that was in the most recent /LIST is reasonable - that's a real problem. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Would this have side effects ?
On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 17:10 -0600, Anonymous Japhering via evolution- list wrote: > Since I'm using IMAP, would it create any, heretofore unseen side > effects to create 2 accounts in Evolution pointing > to the same mail server. As long as the IMAP server manages concurrent connections to one account in a sane manner this will work just fine; within Evolution the accounts are isolated. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] troublesome cache
On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 17:39 +, Richard Bown wrote: > I know Andre has pointed to all the evo data files > Last attempt was > sudo apt purge evolution* > evolution --force-shutdown > rm -rf ~/.local/share/evolution > rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution > rm -rf ~/.cache/evolution > rm -rf ~/.config/evolution > dconf reset -f /org/gnome/evolution/ > gconftool not installed as my DM is cinnamon You do understand that *YOU* create these kinds of problems by messing around in the filesystem, right? Stop doing that; use the tools in the intended fashion. > check all hidden evol files have gone > then re-istalled evo > richard@richard-Inspiron-3580:~$ ls -s .cache/evolution/mail > total 12 > 4 1527769677.8716.2@richard-Inspiron-N5030 > 4 7bb2e693532a510fb41eca211d9e5a026556fa10 > 4 83febb968dd172d285752d793ebe81d81ef79a59 > Its back !! Are you doing this while logged in? If so, don't ever. Just stop. > IF I've uninstalled evo removed What? Uninstalling Evolution has no impact on this at all; that is not how things work. > I tried asking on the Linux mint forum and just getting called a liar > as they think it doesn't happen. > This is very frustrating As a GNOME/Evolution since the days of Ximian -> you've created this mess. If you want a completely clean install then create a new user account and log into that; transfer the actual documents you want; then delete the old user account. NOTE: I haven't ever, in decades, had to do that. But I also stay out of the "." directories except in the rarest of instances. If you go into them more than once a year you are doing something wrong. > Now I suspect that as when a file is deleted the space it used > still contains the data,... Yes, absolutely that is true. That is true of every POSIX compliant file-system. A file may be deleted [aka: unlinked from the directory] but persists on disk, and is fully operational, until ZERO processes have it open. It is common even for an application to create a file, open it, delete it, and then use it until the application ends when the file then automatically reaped by the file-system. This is a feature, a great one, not a bug. Also a reason not to mess around in application directories; you don't necessarily see what that process sees [again, feature, not bug]. Also "man -S2 mmap", memory mapped files are yet another whole thing [feature, not bug]. And that's what is used by GConf/DConf. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Settings in $HOME/.cache/evolution
On Sat, 2021-01-30 at 19:46 +0100, Ángel wrote: > lOn 2021-01-30 at 18:28 +, Douglas Summers via evolution-list > wrote: > > I've been moving most of my app cache directories to /tmp (tmpfs) > > so that they're cleaned on a reboot. This works great for > Although, I should say it seems a bad idea to do that, +1 This is a bad idea that does not solve an actual problem. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Taskbar/Panel New Mail Indicator?
On Sun, 2021-01-03 at 22:54 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Personally, I just keep Evolution open permanently on a virtual > desktop of its own, so it takes no time for me to check if there's > new mail. Yeah, same, I always have it running. And "Minimize" still works; right-click title-bar "Minimize". Window still appears in the Activities.Useful for the long-running applications. Why not let the stack solve this for you? You could set Evolution to auto-start minimized - problem solved. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Taskbar/Panel New Mail Indicator?
On Sat, 2021-01-02 at 18:02 -0500, Paul B. via evolution-list wrote: > Hi everyone, and a good new year to you. > I don't see any way to have an indication of new mail on the panel > icon. Am I missing it? I'm using evolution-3.34.4 + gnome-shell-3.34.5 and I see new mail notifications. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Backup/Restore
On Tue, 2020-12-22 at 12:51 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > If not, do any of the other > > programs (i.e. Deja-Dup or Lucky Backup) allow one to back up and > > recover the then up-to-date Evolution data? > Evolution's data files are largely text based, there's nothing magical > about them. They are successfully backed and restored by any normal > backup program. > Evolution's data storage locations are in the application Help if you > want to specifically back them up. See https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html.en An advantage of CalDAV/CardDAV/IMAP is that one only needs to attend to backing up the configuration as the data remains on a server - - - which one presumes has a true backup procedure. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Backup/Restore
On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 17:47 -0800, Mr. J wrote: > Friends: I'm using Evolution 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 on Ubuntu 20.04, and > have > been using it happily for years. Recently, because of user error, > I've become more diligent in backing up. I would like, however, to > be > able to do an incremental backup rather than wait the time necessary > for the Evolution to back up everything. Is there such an animal > available within the Evolution program? If not, do any of the other > programs (i.e. Deja-Dup or Lucky Backup) allow one to back up and > recover the then up-to-date Evolution data? > Thank you for the support. I, and I suspect most people, simply rsync $HOME to as external block storage / filesystem. That is as incremental as it gets. The --link-dest allows the creation of very efficient [object level duplication] incremental backups which are trivial to manage and navigate. Depending on the type of accounts you use in Evolution much of the DATA may not be locally persistent. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Emails marked as read that I never viewed
> > Around once a day, a minute or so after receiving a set of emails, > > Evolution will mark some of those emails as read (entry in email > > list > > no longer in boldface) without me ever viewing them. If I choose a > > different email account in the accounts list, and wait until the > > Saving > IIRC in the past people who have reported this kind of thing have > generally found that some other mail client is accessing their > account, Agree, likely something else is marking them as read. Evolution is only doing/displaying as it is told. > e.g. from a phone, mail checking widget or similar. When Evolution > marks something as "Read", it's simply reporting what the IMAP server > is telling it. There is also the /org/gnome/evolution/mail/mark-seen & /org/gnome/evolution/mail/mark-seen-timeout and /org/gnome/evolution/mail/mark-seen-always settings available via donf- editor [use the 'registry' editor at your own risk - all default disclaimers apply]. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu) - Search results
On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 14:15 +0100, theapple...@differentmail.com wrote: > The Help GNOME article is helpful but has not solved the problem and > toget from there to the Evolution mailing list is too long or that > obvious for most people, especially newbies. > Is there a way to bring the Evolution mailing into the search > results? Evolution -> Help -> Contents -> Tracking down Problems: "How to get help" I do not mean to be dismissive, but I've been in IT for 30 years. You|We|Us can't make it any easier than that. The habit of starting at a search engine is a terrible one; those users will waste their time plunging rabbit holes. :( RTFM is in the long run, truly, the best and kindest thing you can say to a user. > Even when it is not clicked on much as it is a mailing list ... > I hope even newbies will be able to find this great and helpful > mailing list. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution discussion (Ubuntu Community)
On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 21:21 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 19:32 +0100, > theapple...@differentmail.com > wrote: > > > Anyone is welcome to file feature requests and bug reports by > > > following https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/BugReportingGuidelines > > I agree with you and it was suggested to the user in a later post: > > https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/evolution-again-as-default-email-app-client/15457/82 > Out of interest (and it's not meant in a derogatory way), but do > people > really think that posting things in an OS specific forum, like Ubuntu > Discourse or Ask Fedora, magically gets back to developers or will > elicit answers from communities such as this? No, I suspect they are having a 'casual' conversation. Who's to say they are even interested in a response? My kinda l-o-n-g experience with this is that they probably are not. Aside, most of the things listed [at least in the message I read] mostly relate to accommodating strange workflows. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Re +1 : how insert a .gif into a mail
On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 23:36 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Much less the ISP enforced limits on the maximum size of both an > > email and an attachment. I can't remember the last time I sent > > email oremail with attachment that was larger than 10MB as most of > > theservices I operate through have a 10MB total size limit. > Gmail is I believe the most popular email service in the world and > had a limit of 25MB last time I looked. Certainly not 100MB. Office365 is ~50MB; so, still not 100MB. > > One has to wonder if all the cloud file services (dropbox, box, > > onecloud, google drive, etc) came about because of ever shrinking > > limits on the total size of an email message. I don't believe the limits have gotten lower. It is simply that file- sharing is a better answer in almost all use-cases. One operational problem with attachment sending is the untethered duplication. The target of a link [of any kind] can be updated, resulting in everyone with the link have access to an updated document vs. the person who "has the file" saved *somewhere* and continues to use it. Aside - with evolution you can attach documents to appointments and tasks. So if you can share the CalDAV collection [calendar / to-do list] you get an excellent read-mostly document sharing solution. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Re +1 : how insert a .gif into a mail
On Sun, 2020-11-15 at 20:41 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > > IMO it's important to point out that inserting, attaching an image > > shouldn't fail. Sending large images usually fails, because email > > servers usually limit the size of emails they will accept. > > It's a different kettle of fish. > Am I mistake? Is it already impossible to insert or attach 109.0 MB? > If so why? Is the size per se limited via RFC? I would expect it to be possible to ATTACH a 109MB document - in fact I'm pretty sure I've done it. I would not expect it to work, in any mail client anywhere, to INSERT a 109MB image/document. The body of an e-mail is a Document-Object-Model kind of thing, and I just wouldn't expect any message edit to survive such a traumatic event. Whether even the former is wise is another question [the answer to which is "no" - if only because the serialization of an e-mail attachment bloats the payload by ~20%, so you are talking about 130MB to send - and then store - 109MB]. > Googling for RFC I found a limit of 50 MB. But IIUC there are "ifs" > and "buts". -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Drag-n-Drop Wierdness [Was: export collections of mails to txt file]
On Mon, 2020-11-02 at 15:53 +0100, Herr Oswald wrote: > Hello everybody, > I need to export the text contents of a number of messages to a text > file. I tried mbox export, but there I get a lot of unwanted contents > (headers, attachments etc). Regexing out them is more than my limited > abilities can do... > I found this very old thread: > http://gnome-evolution-general.1774414.n4.nabble.com/exporting-mails-to-txt-or-pdf-td4655326.html > but the attempt to drag messages to a nautilus folder reliable > crashes evo and at least the mouse... I've experienced this as well (3.34.4). This feature has been broken in this strange way for awhile. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Displaying the amount of mail being received on each account Evolution 3.36.5-1.fc32
On Mon, 2020-11-02 at 10:43 +, Bob Moore wrote: > Is it possible there has been a corruption of one of the config > files? > Perhaps the amount of time it's displayed has been altered? > I have reinstalled Evolution, but it didn't change anything. Reinstalling applications will not fix things. The configuration of the application is in each user's home directory - and it remains even if the application is remove [feature, not a bug]. > But if there is an existing copy of the program, perhaps a corrupted > file would not get overwritten? -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution mail - Linux version differences
On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 13:31 -0400, Reid Vail via evolution-list wrote: > Hello team - > I'm running 3.38.1-1 on Pop!-OS 20.10 > There are a few things that I'm not sure now to work with. The first > regards displaying HTML content. At the moment I have configured > Evolution to "load remote content only in messages from contacts" and > to "Notify about missing remote content in the message preview". But > it appears that the the only way I can see the content (load images) is > to open the message in its own window, select View and then "view > Images". I am on 3.34.4 and I have a load-remote-content button in the preview. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution changes file names of attachments (underscores instead of spaces)
On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 08:50 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution- list wrote: > On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 12:16 +0100, theapple...@differentmail.com > wrote: > > > evolution: 3.36.4-0ubuntu1 > > > When storing attachments, their names will be changed! > > > Example: original:>one two three.jpg<, new:>one_two_three.jpg< > > > All empty fields will be changed in underlines. > > > What can I do? > I'm sure someone will correct me, but space ( as well as a host of > others ) in filenames are a pain in the arse on > any Unix based (Unix, AIX, Linux, BSD) based OS, which means it takes > lots of special code to handle. Translation I will correct you - I develop ETL & WebDAV stuff - filenames with spaces and "special" characters are not a problem on UNIX systems. Not at all. They can be a real annoyance for things like shell scripts which manipulate files based on name AND assume characters have meaning. They aren't a problem anywhere else [ just stop writing shell scripts ]. > of "special" characters like spaces, &, *, etc is a simple > operation which eliminates lots code ( and therefore lots > of bugs ) Nope. > Additionally, if you try to handle one two three.jpg from the > command line, you will have to resort to quoting or > regular expression matching to access the file. If you aren't quoting filenames you have a serious security problem. On modern systems tab completion will do this for you. On the other hand, I don't have any issues with Evolution changing the filename. What's that sensitive to filenames? Technically, however, the client shouldn't manipulate the payload of the message. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Archive
On Wed, 2020-09-23 at 16:19 -0400, David Burleigh via evolution-list wrote: > Is there any practical/usability limit to the number of emails in the > archive folder? No. Or it depends on your backend/hardware. So, in 2020, no. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention
On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 16:25 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > So I'm not the only one to do that :-) 17 years of Evolution list > > messages ... > Only 15 years in my case :-) First message in my Evolution folder is dated 2004-10-26 :) -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention
On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 15:20 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Personally I find Evo's built-in search perfectly > > adequate, though I keep the entire list in an IMAP folder and never > > delete anything, which might not suit everyone. > So I'm not the only one to do that :-) 17 years of Evolution list > messages ... Nope, and that's sorta the point. I have 'private' archives of lists stretching back years - it is far more effective than searching-the- internet [which brings in all manner of noise, duplicates, questions with no solutions]. Best part is that those questions-without-solutions can be deleted and you never have to see them again. So the archive just gets better and better. -- Executive Committee Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Editor needs serious attention
On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 15:31 +0200, mw...@web.de wrote: > platform? I'd clearly prefer the latter form, and with some issues > you could just find the solution using the web search of your choice > without having to bother this whole group by asking. That is what documentation is for. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [OT] Evolution setup
On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 19:09 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > Actually I don't subscribe to the cult of the cool. But the trouble > > with email for this sort of use is it only really works if you are > > following all the threads all the time. > > It arrives willy nilly warts and all, which is fine if you are > > continuously actively involved. > I don't understand this - all the forum posts, sorry not-a-forum > posts, arrive willy nilly the same as mail does? Willy-Nilly as in "real time" or "asynchronously". :) > Or are you saying you don't use the mail reader to sort and thread > your mail. No, I read the mail in my INBOX. Otherwise, what is the point? > > as I was saying again having hit [enter], the beauty of a forum is > > that it puts you the user in control of what you see and when you > > see it. You can ignore threads, or whole categories/sub-forums that > > don't interest you, you can be notified when there is something for > > you in particular, you can go away for a month and easily catch up > > when you get back, you can easily browse through previous topics > > that might answer your question, and so on. > And why can't you do that with mail? I have mailboxes with 10s of > thousands of unread mails in them that I am successfully ignoring. I have mailboxes with nearly 200,000 messages! > > Different solutions for different folk, neither is right or wrong. > > For me email is good for one to one conversation and ok for > > broadcast one to many information, but pretty rubbish for many to > > many discussion/sharing. > Strangely the mailing list format seems to have worked OK for this > listfor 20 years ... +1,000 -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution setup
> > 3) The people in the forum, are trying to help (from my own > > experience) > > , but - they are unable to get down to our "Layman" level > > naturally, so > > when you pose a question, be specific and say where you are at this > > stage. > Indeed, but part of our problem is that Evolution is still using a > Mailman mailing list for support which is really old school so you > join it but can't see what has been discussed before (well you may > be able to visit the list archives, but that is not at all the same > as browsing a well structured forum) It is not a "problem". If you want FREE support, the mailing list exists. Posting your questions to a Forum will likely not do any good, as I - who don't have a problem - and not going to take the time to go read whatever is on some forum. You WANT the messages to come to my INBOX. And you can search the mail archives using any Internet search engine; you have to do nothing else. > This also means that we arrive with a burning question/issue and > unaware of protocols like "no html please" and "no top posting" . > This can also contribute to a techie and closed feel But what you want is techie support, right? -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Syncevolution extension
> For what it's worth, I'd recommend to use some public server (like > Google, when you talk about Android) and connect the phone and > Evolution itself to it, without a need of the man-in-the-middle (the > SyncEvolution). The advantage is that the data will be on the (Google) > server, no need to take care of its backup and such. The disadvantage, > maybe, is that the data will be on the (Google) server, you'd need the > connection to it in order to synchronize the data. Both sides [Android & Evolution] also support CardDAV/CalDAV so you can have network based client/server sync without depending on a proprietary "cloud" [aka: SaaS] service. Client/server is very much how these devices and apps are designed for, and provides a smoother experience. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Full history in reply
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 08:54 -0600, Zan Lynx wrote: > On 6/11/20 8:44 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > To be fair M$-Outlook [which many people, sadly, except as the gold > > standard of e-mail] just includes all the trash, including > > signatures, > > by default, in every ___ reply. So it sort of does this as > > most > > user's never both to delete anything. > Outlook also makes it impossible to have a real signature. I tried > pretty hard, but I never managed to get Outlook to put "-- " as a > signature delimiter. It always wants to trim the trailing space. Not > to mention, getting it to do plain text is nearly impossible. Agree [my employer moved to Outlook ~3 years ago]. Outlook immensely diminishes the usefulness of e-mail as a collaboration tool. I accept that as the reason e-mail has so much fallen out of favor - Outlook ruined it - and why we know have to live with a random collection of silos in the form of web forums, chat thingys, etc... Really, there is no reason to include an entire thread in an e-mail message - - - you have the thread in your mailbox: assuming clients "In-reply-to" correctly. E-mail is a very robust and evolved communications solutions - if people let it work. :( -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Full history in reply
On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 01:33 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Thu, 2020-06-11 at 09:25 +1000, Ian wrote: > > What no client ever does is to include all the other mail messages in a > thread. That would mean in this thread it would join together six > messages even though they are not part of the message I'm replying to - > I have threads of hundreds of messages and I really don't want all > those messages being added every time I reply to the thread To be fair M$-Outlook [which many people, sadly, except as the gold standard of e-mail] just includes all the trash, including signatures, by default, in every ___ reply. So it sort of does this as most user's never both to delete anything. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] BURL in Evolution
On Thu, 2020-06-04 at 10:54 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Also, my memory of this is quite vague but it may not have been part > of the message sending flow, but rather something related to Folder > operations. Sorry I can't be more specific. > It's not that important. I've hacked around the not-a-feature in the past by save-as-draft and then copying from the Draft folder to a shared folder. It works. Sadly, no many people even understand what a shared folder is these days so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, everyone [except GMail, of course] supports plussed (+) mail delivery to folders. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] BURL in Evolution
On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 08:18 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 22:14 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Evolution used to support it at one point, but it no > > longer seems to exist (IIRC it was called "Post"). > just a note about the above, not related to the actual thread: > It's still there, though it's (mainly) used for NNTP accounts. I do > not know whether (and how) it could be enabled for IMAP (or other > protocols). How does "Save As Draft" save a message to an IMAP Drafts folder? -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] BURL in Evolution
> I understand the use case, but I think they put it in the wrong > protocol. It should have been placed in the IMAP protocol. You have > the benefit of referencing mails, but no intermixing of SMTP and > IMAP, or authentication complexities. It sort of is in IMAP; on the backend the IMAP server must support URLAUTH [RFC4467] on top of IMAP URLS [RFC2192]. It gets thorny at: """Specifically, thisrequires that the submit server implement a configuration that uses STARTTLS followed by SASL PLAIN [SASL-PLAIN] to authenticate to the IMAP server. Specifically, this requires that the submit server implement a configuration that uses STARTTLS followed by SASL PLAIN [SASL-PLAIN] to authenticate to the IMAP server.""" Overall I was excited when I discovered IMAP URLS - HOW HANDY! - but even then the authentication bit becomes such a pain that throwing some kind of HTTP proxy in front of the IMAP server is still easier. :( > In fact, some IMAP servers already support IMAP sending through a > "magic Outbox folder". Agree; there does seem to be a simpler way that doesn't require the boundary ripping. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] BURL in Evolution
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 07:06 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2020-06-01 at 20:43 +0100, André Rodier via evolution-list > wrote: > > Does Evolution supports the IMAP BURL extension, that saves an > > email > > remotely, then sends it? > no, it does not support it. > By the way, what is the RFC for it? Just curious. It is more a feature of SMTP servers than clients --- although clients would need to be aware of it. I believe it comes out of the Lemonade work. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4468 """The submission profile of Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) provides a standard way for an email client to submit a complete message for delivery. This specification extends the submission profile by adding a new BURL command that can be used to fetch submission data from an Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) server. This permits a mail client to inject content from an IMAP server into the SMTP infrastructure without downloading it to the client and uploading it back to the server.""" I, personally, cannot imagine what the User Interface for such a feature would be in a 'normal' MUA. Most tedious to me seems the issue that the SMTP server would need access to the IMAP message store --- which seems like a nightware from a sys-admin perspective. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Issue when changing default location of Evolution mail folder to another device
> It would be preferential to use an NFS mount. But that has issues as > well - file locking across NFS is an issue and > performance/reliability > depends to a large extent on the server side. I don't know what the > underlying OS is on the synology NAS, but it would be worth > investigating. If you NFS mount your home directory - and your NFS server is sane [as AFAIK all moderately recent servers are] 1.) You won't need to "relocate" anything. 2.) You can let the NAS or server do all the backups That is the 'normal' way to do this. Remote mount your entire home directory - don't try to peace meal things. It works just fine. I've had hundreds of LINUX desktops remote mounting their home directory - it works. Yes, your uid/gid number mapping **MUST WORK**. That is between your server and your client; it is not application specific. Modern NFS has multiple solutions for this problem. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution to do list
On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 21:14 +0200, Jaap via evolution-list wrote: > I guess it has something to do with tasks (evolution taks I mean) > But in evolution manual no hint to any use of to do list. I have no idea what you are looking at. Help : Contents : "Memos and Tasks Management" It is very straight forward. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Integration with syncevolution
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 08:34 +0430, h.nasajp...@pantherx.org wrote: > Hi, > > libsyncevolution can be used in simple applications without the > dependency on any kind of IPC mechanism > I want to integrate my C++ applications with syncevolution via > `libsyncevolution` or `eds`? > Is there any document about them? How to? Where? Example? I would start by looking at the Folks library/API - which is what GNOME Contacts uses https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Folks https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Contacts -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Basically question
On Wed, 2020-04-15 at 13:36 +0430, Hamzeh Nasajpour wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have a requirement like this: > * There are some applications (developed by myself) that need to > store/retrieve the contacts. > * I need to sync these contacts with my online accounts, for example, > Gmail or ... > * I also should access to them locally as offline. > So I think `syncevolution` is a good solution for me. I can set-up it > on my system for syncing the local DB with Gmail. But I want to know > how can I interact with local DB for read/write/modify the contacts > on my device. In fact, my applications should have access to DB for > read/write/modify. Should I use the `evolution-data-server` or > `libsyncevolution`? Which is better? or any help on this issue. Is > there any document about this issue? I would start by looking at the Folks library/API - which is what GNOME Contacts uses https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Folks -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Updating to newest Evolution mail version
On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 11:52 +0200, Daniel Helfenberger wrote: > https://askubuntu.com/questions/755985/getting-latest-version-of- > evolution-on-ubuntu-14-04#755997 > sudo apt-get remove evolution > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install evolution > My questions are: > Where can I check, whats the newest Version of Evoloution Mail ? > Is this the normal way that I have to remove and reinstall Evolution > or is there a better way to update Evoloution Mail ? It is not normal that removing and reinstalling any application fixes anything. > Does my settings go lost, when I remove and reinstall Evolution ? Your settings exist in your Home Directory and remain after an application is uninstalled - and are 'rediscovered' when you reinstall the application. Another reason uninstalling and reinstalling doesn't fix things. As a side note - as a Systems Engineer with 30 years of IT experience and ~520 users - uninstalling and reinstalling applications on Windows rarely fixes things either [not in the last decade, it is a very obsolete practice]. You need to look for the underlying problem. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Dump of address book contents to something other than vcard?
On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 17:21 -0500, Japhering, Anonymous via evolution- list wrote: > Linux Mint 19.3 kernal 5.3.0-42-generic smp > Evolution 3.36.1 (flatpak git85f017e) > Is it possible to dump the contents of contact lists to something > other than vcards? Perhaps csv ? Yes. Not sure how to make it work with flatpak, but on a normal install... awilliam@bestia:~> /usr/lib/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server/addressbook-export --list-addressbook-folders "e6c290dd4806c85404c456ae0c1aa1583907c616","Contacts",16 "1511792840.894...@beast01.wmmi.net","Favorites",0 "1551710279.1274...@beast01.wmmi.net","HPNA",25 "1444991386.390...@linux-86wr.site","MARP",57 "1485199180.283...@beast01.wmmi.net","MI Favorites",21 "1449693320.359...@linux-86wr.site","MI Users",560 "1446663540.1288...@linux-86wr.site","Morrison",21 "system-address-book","Personal",76 awilliam@bestia:~> /usr/lib/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server/addressbook-export --format=csv --output=marp.csv 1444991386.390...@linux-86wr.site awilliam@bestia:~> ls -l marp.csv -rw-r--r-- 1 awilliam users 18933 Mar 27 11:58 marp.csv NOTE: if you have remote address books the --list-addressbook-folders can be slow. -- Executive Committee Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unable to print from Evolution
On Tue, 2020-02-18 at 13:26 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > On Sun, 2020-02-16 at 16:45 +, Paul wrote: > > 3.34.3 (by Flathub.org) Mint Cinnamon 19.3 > > When I try to print an email I get the following options > > Print to file > > Print to LPR > > My printer is not shown which is an HP OfficejetPro 8600 > > In Firefox and other apps my printer is shown and works fine except > > for > > scanning > > Any ideas? > You mention the option "Print to LPR". Are you familiar with lpr? > It is an old program that does some minimal formatting on a text > file and sends it to a selected printer. CUPS - the printing subsystem on nearly every LINUX (UNIX?) host - can be set to listen to LPR/LPD requests. If you enable that you will easily be able to print to any printer you have locally configured on the 'host' operating system. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 openSUSE, a LINUX desktop for humans who need to get work done. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Attachments
> On Sun, 2020-02-16 at 13:38 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 19:44 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote:
> > > Just a question. Can you print PDF attachments when you print the
> > > e-
> > > mail and not have to open the PDF to print.
> > > It would print the e-mail and PDF attachemnts.
> > I am not aware of such functionality in any e-mail client.
> > There are certainly ways to 'rig' such a function [strip and
> > process attachments] but not within a traditional e-mail client.
> If you send a PDF file to the system print command ('lpr') it will
> process it correctly. Printing a file from Evolution should be no
> different.
That wasn't the question; the question was printing the attachments
WHEN THE MESSAGE IS PRINTED.
> This works in outlook, not worried about it they will have to open
> the attachment.
It does?... well, it looks like it does [in Outlook], but only to the
default printer. The results of testing is interesting [kinda
understand why the feature is rare!] but I stand corrected.
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Re: [Evolution] Attachments
On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 19:44 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote: > Just a question. Can you print PDF attachments when you print the e- > mail and not have to open the PDF to print. > It would print the e-mail and PDF attachemnts. I am not aware of such functionality in any e-mail client. There are certainly ways to 'rig' such a function [strip and process attachments] but not within a traditional e-mail client. -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automated backups
On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 13:01 +0100, ard wrote: > Hi > Thanks for that > I use kbackup on a daily cron > And mirror to a usb once a week, > So I will stop using the evo backup FYI, you can skip the ".cache" directory, which can be HUGE. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automated backups
On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 11:20 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > is intended to be used only when moving your Evolution data to a new > computer (or a new installation if your home directory is going to be > wiped). It also doesn't backup everything, for example spam filters > and some other stuff (the Help document isn't very specific). I simply use rsync nice rsync --exclude tmp --exclude ".cache" \ --verbose --archive /home/awilliam/ \ /archive/external/Bestia/Home/ -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automated backups
On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 12:03 +0100, ard wrote: > re 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 > Is there a way to automate the evolution backup? There does not > appear to be a command line option to call via a cron job > or is it enough to simply tar The command line appears to work: awilliam@bestia:~> /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-backup -- backup evolution-backup-20200214.tar.gz evolution-backup-Message: evolution --quit evolution-backup-Message: rm /home/awilliam/.local/share/evolution/.running rm: cannot remove '/home/awilliam/.local/share/evolution/.running': No such file or directory evolution-backup-Message: dconf dump /org/gnome/evolution-data-server/ >/home/awilliam/.local/share/evolution/backup-restore-dconf-eds.ini evolution-backup-Message: dconf dump /org/gnome/evolution/ >/home/awilliam/.local/share/evolution/backup-restore-dconf-evo.ini evolution-backup-Message: cd /home/awilliam && tar chf - .local/share/evolution .config/evolution evolution.dir | gzip > 'evolution-backup-20200214.tar.gz' evolution-backup-Message: rm /home/awilliam/evolution.dir awilliam@bestia:~> ls -l evolution-backup-20200214.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 awilliam users 456600939 Feb 14 08:15 evolution-backup-20200214.tar.gz -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] email colours
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 12:07 +, Michael Russell wrote: > I am new to Linux and have installed evolution, which I love. One > problem is that when looking and sending emails it shows as black on > grey rather than black on white. I cannot for the life of me find a > solution for setting to to the more normal window of black text on white > background. Does anyone know how I set this to the normal colour used > emails? Typically color, font, etc... is not an attribute controlled by the Application but by the Theme. In your desktop manager's control/preferences app try changing or customizing the theme. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Query about editing quoted text in Plain Text mode
On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 14:10 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > My current query is: > Is editing of quoted text in the Plain Text mode used? > What do you expect from it? Yes, as this message, to delete and inline. > I'm thinking of dropping it, instead of rewriting it in JavaScript. > Without it the quote characters would be there, but they will be like > any other text, possible to edit/remove and so on. They would be > switched to 'blockquote' when changing format to HTML and back to > quote character on change to Plain Text mode. I feel that is just fine; a plain text message is text, I expect and desire no automagica in that mode. > I do edit quoted text myself, mostly to correct wrapping and to split > the quoted text into parts, under which I write my comments. While > I'm used to manually wrap the text (using Delete/Backspace and Enter > keys), it doesn't scale for long text. Having the Format->Wrap Lines > extended to preserve quote character appropriately on re-wrap, I'd No... but I'm kinda in the why-are-l-o-n-g-sections quoted camp. :) > use to it sooner or later. I sometimes create my own quoted part just > by adding the quote character at the beginning of the line. Ditto. > > I guess dropping "quote paragraph lines while typing in Plain Text > mode" functionality would not cause any significant harm long term > (habit factor considered), especially when its drop would simplify > the code and other functions a lot (including undo/redo), but I > thought I'll ask for an opinion here too. Agree. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] LDAP
On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 17:02 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote: > I have tried all 3 of the options. Anything but No Encryption I get > an error: No TLS Available. with no encryption I do get any error > just get no results. That's probably the Scope. > Since you can not see the screen shots below is how I have set it up. > Searching: > Search Base: ou=people,dc=spearsmanufacturing,dc=net (On Thunderbird > this is called Base DN) > Search Scope: One Level (On Thunderbird this check box between One > level (checked) or Subtree This is likely the problem. You need to set this to subtree in almost all cases. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] LDAP
On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 15:38 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote: > I don't think so as it is supposed to be simple authorization. See > the Thunderbird screen shots that work. Your screenshots do not post to the list; list subscribers don't see them, > I don't have simple in evolution so I it set to no encryption. > When I set with other options I get the error back 'No TLS > available' "Simple" is authentication, not encryption. Simple authentication is "Use distinguished name (DN)" in evolution. Have you tried LDAP over SSL with port 636 - a deprecated configuration but still very common - for encryption. -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] LDAP
On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 13:44 +, Ronald Tidwell @CA wrote: > I am using evolution 3.28.5 (3.28.5-5.el7) on centos 7. I am trying > to Zimbra Mail server (8.8.15_GA_3895.Network Jan 2, 2020) for > contacts. I can't get debugging to work all it tells me 'The > connection is closed'. I have this working with Thunderbird and the > Zimbra client and ldapsearch works and finds the contacts, but need > to get it working in Evolution. I have attached screen shots from > Thunderbird and Evolution I would suspect - having no other information - that you have the encryption of the connection configured incorrectly in Evolution. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Move mail to where?
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 04:18 +0100, Ángel wrote: > Then something that exceeded the normal filters could be outsourced > to a custom one (and it would then be the filter responsibility how > to determine the rules to apply) Which would be developed and maintained by whom? Creating application plugins is non-trivial; it requires a development stack --- certainly beyond the reach of the "normal user". At some point the question is: why not simply use the IMAP connectivity in the programming language of your choice to move e-mails however you want. Evolution will be just fine with that. -- Adam Tauno Williams <mailto:awill...@whitemice.org> GPG D95ED383 OpenGroupware Developer <http://www.opengroupware.us/> ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Move mail to where?
> Here is my workflow. Apparently yours is different. It would be > nice if evolution would allow variations. Sometimes the answer is a simpler workflow. Perhaps COPY the mail to the archive folder [via filter] - leaving you free to simply DELETE the message from your INBOX once you've dealt- with/read the message. No moving of messages required. > current year. All I am asking for is that when I select a named > folder by typing a few letters, by default the dialog should > always pick the one for the current year when there are duplicates, > unless I scroll to and click on a different one. Putting on my developer hat: that may seem intuitive, but it's not. That is hyper-specific use-case behavior. What does "current" mean, for example. > I think this might be a reasonable option for other people who might > move emails to places in some tree that fits their work style, This flexibility is really the role of the sophisticated filter system. -- Executive Committee Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution with SOGo Server: no free/busy information
On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 13:08 +0100, Torsten via evolution-list wrote: > am using evolution 3.30.5-1.1 with caldav and carddav > synchronization > from a SOGo server, which works fine except for the free/busy > information. When scheduling a meeting, the fb-information of my > colleagues are not available, although there accounts are on the same > SOGo-server. > Are there any experiences regarding fb-info when syncing with a SOGo > server? You should be able to perform the FB request with your browser or any HTTP client (like wget or curl). First I'd check if the FB URL responds in general. -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Importing a folder from MH/claws
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 22:59 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Is there a way to import a complete folder from MH or claws, or does > it have to be done a message at a time. Sure, just create an account of that type pointed at the MH folder hierarchy. Then copy/move the messages > In the (distant) past, as I remember it>, an MH folder could simply > be copied into the ~/.local/evolution/...; you would then delete If you ever did that it was wrong. Do not much around in .local, those file belong to their respective applications. Going in there is always wrong. >files. This no longer seems to work. Any advice? I doubt it ever 'worked'. -- Executive Committee Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unable to retrieve message
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 12:06 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > It feels like there is some miss-match of cache syncing policies > between devices - This. IMAP clients vary **wildly** in their conformance to both the protocol requires and best practices. The default mail clients on both IOS and Android are pretty dumb-simple in terms of their implementation. Concurrent access [moving and deleting] will always result in the occasional "message cannot be retrieved". It should heal quickly. Evolution is one of the best IMAP clients around. -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Attachement reject and thumbnail glitch after update
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 04:25 +0100, U.vi wrote: > Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 up to date, since the last update roll few days > ago, Evolution 3.34.2 (flathub) pop-up. > Since : > - I can't drag and drop anymore attachement, it pop the following: > "Unable to load attachment. > Error obtaining information from the file "/path/to/file": no file or > folder of this type." > I still CAN use the "add attachement" button. > (This is a french computer) > - Evolution thumbnais are replaced by File explorer thumbnail in > alt+tab switcher I believe that is the thumbnail/icon one sees if no specific thumbnail/icon is discovered. Likely a FlatPack+Path issue. End-User use of FlatPack can be ... interesting. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution PST support
On Tue, 2020-01-07 at 22:45 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > I don't know of any Linux applications or libraries that write/update > .pst files - they are all based around reading and converting the > file to something more standard. The issue really is that PST format > is a Microsoft proprietary (but open) format and there are multiple, It has also been replaced by the OST file; while PST remains supported. For now. > The format seems to be very fragile in that it It is. There are sooo many ways to break a PST file, including just using multiple version of Outlook. I would not be comfortable using is an archive format in a case where people actually needed to access that archive. > As others have said, use IMAP - the pain of setting up a server will > almost certainly be beneficial in the long run. If setting up a > server is not your thing, then there are cloud based solutions. If the user just wants BLOBs of e-mails the MBOX file is a reasonable solution. I, personally, don't get why anyone would want such a thing... but that certainly works, I dumped messages to archival MBOX files in the past - mostly for reasons of Legal Discovery, etc... -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution PST support
On Tue, 2020-01-07 at 01:57 +0100, Ángel wrote: > On 2020-01-04 at 11:41 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I would look at IMAP, which Outlook supports. It's possible to > You would "post" a message to an IMAP folder is done just by moving > the message to that folder. Yep, IMAP is the correct solution. And "POST" is really just 'PUT', nothing complicated about it. > Using a IMAP server will certainly work and is a proper solution. I > wonder though if William will be able to get an IMAP server (as there > seems to be an implicit requisite of using a "dumb" storage folder). > Maybe he will be able to solve it by running an IMAP server on > localhost and pointing his MUA there. If you want multiple-user access there should be a server agent, like an IMAP server. That is the correct solution. Stay out of the files. -- Executive Committee Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No CalDAV calendar
On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 17:58 +0100, Volker Wysk wrote:
> The process of adding the calendar in evolution seems to work fine.
> There are no error messages. I do Edit -> Accounts -> Add Calendar ->
> Type -> CalDAV. I add the URL of the calendar, which I get from the
> Nextcloud server. Then I do "Find Calendars", and this works. The
> calendar is found.
> But it doesn't work. The new imported calendar is empty. Nothing in it
> at all.
To debug the CalDAV connection kill off evolution-calendar-server and
run :
CALDAV_DEBUG={all|message:body|message:header|message|items|attachments
} evolution-calendar-factory >& logfileMultiple
- on the command line.
like:
CALDAV_DEBUG=all evolution-calendar-factory >& logfileMultiple
It should dump it's conversation with the server into the log file.
I haven't had to do this in a long time, but I believe it still works
on the current versions.
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Re: [Evolution] From: To: mismatch
> Pete has already asked you to STOP spoofing his email address. This > counts as abuse of the list and if it continues will force us to > consider bannning you +1 Since you are using Evolution just use Ctrl+L to reply to a list message; it will do everything correctly, automatically. If you use an application incorrectly - as you are doing - you will get unsatisfactory results. Use the application correctly. Template messages can be manged easily using Drafts. Reply to messages using Reply. Reply to on-list messages using Reply- to-List. -- Executive Committee Chair Michigan Association of Railroad Passengers 537 Shirley St NE Grand Rapids, MI 49503-1754 Phone: 616.581.8010 E-mail: awill...@whitemice.org GPG#D95ED383 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] From: To: mismatch
> It is for me, I have to send the same message with a slightly > different line or two in the body every day as an update for the > next management teams shift. Much easier to edit as new message > rather than create new message. This sounds like a use case for Drafts; use of Edit-As-New is misuse of that feature. -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution not syncing with the server through IMAP
On Sun, 2019-09-08 at 16:11 -0700, Lambertus Struik via evolution-list wrote: > > Today the desktop Evolution will not download the Inbox or other > > folders, whereas Thunderbird, my tablet and iPhone did. This email > > is coming to you via Thunderbird. Maybe my local Evolution setup > > under my existing computer account is corrupt (as well?). > I think Evolution is just better at managing system error messaging > and errors than Thunderbird. As a user of Evolution for decades, always with a variety of IMAP servers, it would be difficult to convince me Evolution's IMAP implementation is broken in any substantive way. But there are broken server implementations out there for sure - - - and I suspect with the rise of 'The Cloud' implementors feel more freedom to be fast-and-loose with compliance to standards or convention. :( -- Adam Tauno Williams, awill...@whitemice.org Multi-Modal Activists Against Auto Dependent Development resisting the unAmerican socialists of the Motorist hegemony http://www.mmaaadd.org ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Un-needed button
On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 08:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > Your reply was sent to Pete Biggs and evolution-list , so Peter Biggs > either received a duplicated message, one directly from you and a > second from the mailing list or, if he set up mailman to not send > duplicates, he does only receive your message, so the mailing list > header is lost for him. Also numerous modern mail servers may discard one of the duplicates [depending on how the mail list software treats Message-ID]. > Apart from a few exceptions, where it's wanted to sent a mail to the > list and individual recipients, usually developer lists, it's frowned > upon to do this. > Yes, it should show up all the time and you should use it! Yes, every time that button is illuminated it is the button that should be used. -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spam error message
On Wed, 2019-05-22 at 05:18 +1000, Bradley G Ward wrote: > It seems to be ok now if I pust just one character in the text area > of the forwarded email. No idea why, but, blind forwarding seems to > be the problem. It is not my provider as suggested by someone else > and I never thought that was the issue. I just don't know why it has > started doing this. Someone updated the SPAM milter on the SMTP server [it is your provider if this fixed it]. -- Highland Park Neighborhood Association Adam Tauno Williams, Board Chair Grand Rapids, MI. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
