Re: [Evolution] Port Evolution to WebKit2 for 3.21.90
On Mon, 2016-08-08 at 11:35 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > Hello, > I'd like to let the users know that we plan to merge the WebKit2 port > branch of the Evolution and thus make the Evolution depend on the > WebKit2 (instead of the WebKit1) for the 3.21.90 development release, > which is planned to be made the next Monday, August 15th. The 3.22.0 > stable release is planned a month later, on the September 19th. > .. snip .. > Probably the easiest way of getting the development version of > the Evolution is to use some distribution which already provides it. > I'd use a virtual machine with a Fedora 25 (also pre-release, with > possibility of issues from other libraries too) installation [2] (I > do Why not a flatpak or snap? Thanks, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] indefinite network connection timeouts, again
Eugene, I don't connect to your mail servers, but my F20 install of evolutions has been very stable for a variety of POP and IMAP servers. I hate to say it, however it might be the servers you are connecting with... I just wanted to boost your confidence in the Evolution version in Fedora 20. Thanks, Rob On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 23:25 -0400, Eugene Kanter wrote: Every time I start my 3.12.5 (Fedora 20 copr repository) Refreshing folder.. status messages with animated foot stay indefinitely. The workaround is to select File-Work Offline, kill evolution process (it does not exit upon File-Exit) by sending two kill signals in a row, restart evolution and switch to online mode. I've been reporting different indefinite timeouts for several years and releases with neither debug nor workaround solution offered. Needless to say that other mail clients don't exhibit any network problems on the same system... Eugene. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.10.4 -- CANNOT MAKE VALID BACKUP FILE
On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 03:01 +0200, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote: Am Montag, den 08.09.2014, 22:06 +0200 schrieb Ángel González: Bart wrote: Sounds like you are hitting the file size limit for the file system you have on your backup device. Perhaps if you format your backup device to ext4 or the like. Bart Use the unix command split to split the big archive into files of a lower size and put them together via cat when restoring. The nautilus file manager has a script package where you can select a file and do this via context menu. The split method is a little work, but at least you don't have to reformat the Fat32 file system if you don't want to. man split cd /tmp # or what ever file location you save the backup to, # Remember you can't write directly to the fat32 location. split --bytes=1G evo-backup-file evo-backup-file- ls -l evo-backup-file-* # to see the newly created 1GB files # Copy the evo-backup-file- files created by the command # above to your external disk. Then copy the files to the new computer. cat evo-backup-file-* evo-backup-file-restored Now use Evolution to restore from the re-assembled evo-backup-file-restored. Thanks, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP
Why do people still use POP, when IMAP is a more complete solution and things like offline-imap and fetchmail exist for those who work in an offline environment? P. I prefer POP with Evolution because it is more stable for me than IMAP. About half my accounts are POP and half are IMAP. The least stable accounts for fetching e-mail are the IMAP accounts. So... POP continues to rule my e-mail tech stack. Much of my e-mail is hosted at Google but not all. I am sure someone will say their servers suck. That may be however that is where my e-mail is! If at some point, IMAP becomes as stable, I will switch to it wholesale. Thanks, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution is dying
Hi Jimmy, Please see my comments inline per mail group netiquette. On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 20:45 -0500, Jimmy Montague wrote: Thank you, Pete Biggs. I appreciate your direction to the gizmo. Unfortunately I see it's for versions 13, and I'm running version 14.04 So it's thanks but no thanks until they update it. I believe the best advice you have received on this list was from ref...@gmx.net to install: - getmail and/or offlineimap I have used fetchmail in the past with Evolution. This is easier than it sounds. You create a config file for fetchmail, getmail or offlinemap with one or more accounts you wish to fetch from. These programs pull the mail down to a local mail spool file. In most cases Evolution will find this local mail file easily and you should have access to your mail. You may need to write a simple script to put in your local cron settings. This will fetch the mail on a periodic basis. Or you can do as I did and run it when you want to check your e-mail. All this may sound harder than it is. Feel free to contact me, if you would like to give this a quick shot. You can probably find more directed advise on an Ubuntu mailing list. By the way I have seen this ask for a password until infinity from Evolution on many occasions. Usually I see this on my Google mail servers, but it goes away after an hour or so. Best of luck. Rob - Jimmy On 05/29/2014 07:31 PM, Pete Biggs wrote: Now you've made my ears stick up! What's this about a 'unity-tweak-tool'? http://bit.ly/RHQPE0 P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Migration problem
Hello Dave, I am not sure who is telling you MS Office on Crossover running on Linux is no good. I run MS Office 2010 under Crossover and it runs very well. I am not sure I have seen any problems using Office this way. But I must admit, I am an infrequent user of MS Office. Libre Office really is my go to productivity solution. Thanks, Rob On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 16:32 -0500, Dave Belgard wrote: Hi I am in the long process of attempting to migrate from windows to Linux I think 18 months is a long time. The big hold up has been outlook 2007 to Evolution or Thunderbird. Where can I find the latest evolution for windows download as my plan is to migrate outlook to windows evolution and then win Evolution to Linux Evolution. Is this the best choice? And any good windows software to help speed this process along blah- blah and even commercial email clients. This has been an ongoing process for about a year had to figure the Linux out which distros were made for idiots and then which one was for a real idiot. I have converted the 2007 PST file to 2003 PST format I tried to do the thunderbird route but it was a failure. This plan seems to be the easiest I am really an idiot when it comes to the Linux I thought I might try to do a virtual machine on the Linux and load MS office and run it that way. Because they say office and crossover is no good. Peace ,Pax Mir Thanks daveb ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] I/O operation timing out
Fedora 18. Evo 3.6.2 I get timeouts on some accounts (usually gmail) about once a month or so. The timeouts will persist for a day or two and then things will return to normal (no timeouts at all). I have a single Internet connection, a Charter cable connection. Sometimes during these time outs. The Gmail web interface will have problems accessing my inbox as well. So in my case I am willing to believe it might be internal Google problems. Thanks, Rob On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 10:52 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On 2 December 2013 00:51, samarjit Adhikari samarjit.adhik...@gmail.com wrote: I was facing similar issues of evolution timeout. My Evolution version was 3.10.2 from git source. Even I have observe that evolution was throwing timeout very intermittently. Thus I have decided to investigate it further. I could find that eds has implemented a camel-network-service which is responsible for connecting any network socket and identifying network change, calls g_network_monitor_can_reach_async with callback of network_service_can_reach_cb. The call g_network_monitor_can_reach_async supposed to connect mail server and transfer the handle to Evolution to use. It was a gio call and my gio version is 2.38.1. Evolution was very dependent on this call and will misbehave if such call g_network_monitor_can_reach_async misbehaves. I have observed that the above mentioned call some time returns without actually connecting to the mail server(verified through wireshark) and in that case Evolution failed to connect showing Timeout. Further looking into the code of gio implementation I could find that gio keep caching all network connections e.g. first time if evolution able to connect the mail server, gio will cache it and if you reopen evolution the call g_network_monitor_can_reach_async will return some time without connecting the mail server explicitly and such behavior continues till cache become invalid. It is very annoying and could be a bug of GIO module rather than Evolution stack. I did not investigate further in GIO side due to time crunch , but I believe it would certainly help in isolating evolution behavior from GIO. If there is a bug in GIO it should be reported to Bugzilla. If you aren't sure, report it to the Evo Bugzilla page and someone may bump it upstream. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply to Sender does same thing as Reply to All
Hello Ralf, Fedora 18 ships with Evo 3.6.4. This combination is very stable for me. The only crashes I have are when Evolution is open for 6 or more weeks. I receive a lot of e-mail and restarting Evolution is required after a couple of weeks. Otherwise the mail client works well for me. HTH Thanks, Rob On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 13:37 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 13:21 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 12:46 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: However, Evolution does change it's behaviour with each upgrade to current stable versions of it's dependencies from upstream Either stop spreading FUD, or be way more exact. The issues do change, at the moment it's annoying for me that Evolution crashes when I try to sort by subject. I'm serious and not trolling. What distro does provide a stable Evolution? It's in the mail header, but FWIW, the version is 3.10.2 on a 64-bit up to date Arch Linux, IOW every dependency should be the current stable release from upstream. I don't remember when the issue started, but it seems to be one of the issues that appeared after upgrading other software, IOW seemingly something from the dependency chain. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Idealism face plants against asphalt [Was: downloads page]
Hello Tom, Other projects just give 2 or 3 pre-compiled downloads on their sites. I take it that this project doesn't have the skill-set to provide such a thing? Is that why people are getting so defensive about Evolution's inability to provide what every other project seems to be able to provide? If you folks just don't have the skills needed then how about we just tackle that first and get someone else to do it for you? The other projects you are referring to are likely smaller or are of a semi self contained nature. (E.g. Abiword, Libre Office or Open Office)? These projects are not tightly coupled to the Gnome Desktop. However Evolution is tightly coupled to the Gnome desktop making it difficult to ship a new version of Evolution against an old version of the Gnome desktop. The best analogy I can think of is this: you are asking Microsoft to ship a version of IE 11 that works with Windows XP. IE 11 depends far too much on internal components of the current Microsoft OS to run on an old version of the Microsoft desktop. You may say this is a design flaw, but it is how the software was original designed and continues to exist to this day. Evolution dependency to Gnome is similar to Internet Explorer dependency on the Windows Desktop. Also I think you miss the point. Evolution developers are working on pushing the code base forward for the latest Gnome Desktop. If they divided their effort to build packages for popular Linux distributions (let alone all Linux variants available), they wouldn't have time to develop new features. This would be counter productive anyway, as the popular distribution maintainers produce Evolution packages for their variant of Linux. So please enjoy the Evolution package carefully crafted by the distribution maintainer of your choosing. I personally choose Fedora and have been happy with my choice for a decade. Thanks, Rob ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Minor annoyance with scroll wheel
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 14:10 +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 22:12 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Evo 3.8.3, Fedora 19, KDE 4.10 Evo, Arch, GNOME 3.8 Evo 3.6.4, Fedora 18, Cinnamon 7 year old USB Logitech Mouse Wheel works perfectly in Evo. Maybe the KDE desktop is holding you back? Doesn't KDE have KMail or something? Same problem. Been busted for a while now. Evolution seems to be the only app suffering from this, so I don't _think_ it's upstream. AfC Sydney ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.726.0313 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to start fresh with Evo ?
Hi Reid, I can't answer your start from scratch question. I can suggest that you could create a new test UNIX account to try a from scratch configuration. Create the new user. Configure Evolution to connect to your server. And then judge how well 3.6.2 works for you then. When testing POP thusly make sure you leave messages on the server in case you want to revert back to your normal user's mailboxes. I recently upgraded from Fedora 14 to Fedora 18. Fedora 18's Evolution 3.6.3 has been rock solid for me. So the next version of Evolution may serve you better. Can you install a Debian unstable version of Evolution to upgrade your Ubuntu evolution version? I am a very casual user of Ubuntu, so I can't make specific recommendations. HTH, Rob On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 16:14 -0500, rsv...@roadrunner.com wrote: I used Evolution for years and it was solid and stable. But lately (on verson 3.6.2 for Ubuntu) it has been so hosed. I use (or try to) a POP server and an IMAP (gmail) server. As often as not the POP hangs and won't fetch properly, and now the IMAP SMTP won't sent. Have to ask: I wonder if there's a way to start fresh with Evolution? Use the backup tool to save my data and addresses, purge the .local/mail files for Evo, purge the 3.6.2 via Synaptic, and then reload. I have a really hard time believing these configs are wrong; it's not that complicated. Thoughts? Bad idea, decent idea. Also, is there a way to get 3.6.3 via ubuntu? thx Reid ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Invalid folder URI in message send post-processing
Hello Everyone, I just upgraded from Fedora 14 to Fedora 18 which uses Evolution 3.6.3. Most things are working great. I restored my e-mail boxes using the Backup and Restore Settings of Evolution. However when I send e-mails I receive this message: Your message was sent, but an error occurred during post-processing. The reported error was Failed to append to mbox:///user/rseward/.local/share/evolution/mail/local#Sent: Invalid folder URI 'mbox:///user/rseward/.local/share/evolution/mail/local#Sent' Appending to local 'Sent' folder instead.. I actually prefer that Evolution is Appending to local 'Sent' folder instead.. Is it possible to inform Evolution, that I don't want to see this warning in the future? Thanks, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Invalid folder URI in message send post-processing
Hello Andre, My response is inline with yours. On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 19:21 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 12:29 -0500, Robert Seward wrote: However when I send e-mails I receive this message: In Evolution, click Help. Click Contents. Scroll down to Common Mail Questions and Problems, or click Page Find in page and enter the first part of the error as search term. Find a solution. :) andre The content of this new help is new to me. I don't believe it was present in Fedora 14. Thank you for pointing it out to me. Also I probably should have googled. Best regards, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cleaning up 8gb of archived email
On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 17:45 -0800, Portsample wrote: At this point I am suspecting that my 8gb general inbox is the cause of this problem. Any suggestions? TIA once again. Although I didn't have a 8 GB inbox, I had a 800 MB Inbox a four years ago or so. Evolution became very unstable for me. It would fail to expunge deleted e-mail and other kinds of problems. Evolution took a lot of CPU and time to start, etc. I solved my problem by renaming my old Inbox to a new name 1999-2008 and then starting a new Inbox. Evolution has been much stable for me ever since. I hope that helps. Thanks, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [solved] Re: evolution without gnome/gnome panel - how to get a tray icon?
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 19:28 -0300, Fábio wrote: Thanks a lot man, but I decided to switch to Thunderbird. This won't affect you in the short term. However it might affect you in the long term. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/07/06/2320245/mozilla-downshifting-development-of-thunderbird-e-mail-client Thank you, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] An interesting problem
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 15:41 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: I know people will say in this day and age etc. etc. but as a mail admin on machines with limited resources, big messages are a PAIN. I agree with Pete. Use Dropbox or what ever web server you have access to post large files to. Give your recipient a link to the file instead! It is a far better use of Internet resources. Keep in mind that many intermediate e-mail servers can be 10 years or older and have smallish file systems and disks. Try something like pogoplug if you need your own Personal Cloud to share things. Cheers, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] FAQ vs User Docs [was: reanimation of backup]
See my response below: On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 09:57 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 14:42 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: I'm the one to blame as I added this. IMO anything that helps the user should be in one central place - in the user docs. I don't consider the user docs a reference manual (not sure what that term means). And I welcome patches. :) The problem might be where to make the cut - what is still a *frequently* asked question and what it isn't. Could you elaborate a bit? The problem with the FAQ is it gets increasingly difficult to keep it accurate across numerous Evolution releases, whereas the user docs for version 3.2 address the way things work in version 3.2, etc. On the other hand, the generated HTML pages [1] could really use a table of contents. I do still find the FAQ easier to search, though. There's something to be said for having all the answers on one page. It's a trade-off. I personally love the new user docs. Andre has done a fabulous job with it, continues to improve it, and is very responsive to bug reports. But there's room for improvement in how it's presented on the web. May I make a suggestion? Keep the FAQ, but when it becomes difficult to answer a particular question in a version neutral way add a link to the FAQ that references the appropriate version of the User Doc. I find the Evolution FAQ a nice place to find an answer quickly. I am 10 times more likely to read the FAQ than I am the Evolution User Doc. It is not that the User Doc is poorly written or anything. The User Docs meander through a set of topics that are of little interest to me and the search capabilities of most User Docs are poor. The end result you can't get your answer as nearly as fast by using the User Doc by itself. Also the FAQ seems to have a higher visibility from the search engines. This is likely the primary reason why I am 10 times more likely to visit the FAQ. Thank you, Rob Matthew Barnes [1] http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution 3.0 - contacts sync problem with google apps contacts
Hello Mike, On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 20:55 -0500, mike.h...@yr20.com wrote: I'm not sure if this is the correct place to raise this issue or not. Please advise. I'm running the Fedora 15 64 bit beta with Evolution 3.0.0. Whenever I setup an addressbook to be sync'd with my contacts in my Google Apps account, I do not get all the contacts and get the following error: Unable to perform search. The backend for this address book was unable to parse this query. A required property of a entry/gContact 'user Defined field element (@key) was not present. Interestingly this works perfectly in Fedora 14 with Evolution 3.2. For those wondering. Fedora 14 distributes Evolution 2.32 (not 3.2) This threw me for a loop reading the message. Also I've noted that exactly 157 contacts are sync'd with Evolution each time out of the 537 contacts I have in my Apps contacts. This has persisted over repeated installs of F15 (just due to the alpha/beta status). I can't see anything unique about the contacts that sync and those that don't. Does anyone have any ideas about this? Should I attempt to file a bug report about this? Regards, Mike Hinz ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Current Directory Structure - Evolution 2.32.1
Hello Matthew, See my comments in line. Cheers, Rob On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 17:28 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 15:02 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: There is http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Where_does_Evolution_store_my_data.3F If something is missing, feel free to edit it. I noticed the FAQ is accumulating quite a lot of cruft and it makes for confusing reading. Some of the questions are just flat out not relevant anymore. I don't know if you can do this. Could we not fork the FAQ? E.g. create an archive FAQ for older versions of Evolution and then of course stream line the main FAQ with only relevant information. Is this possible? Version 2.30 is when we dropped Bonobo for D-Bus, and in my mind that version marked a generation gap from earlier releases. (That would have been our real 3.0 if we didn't follow GNOME's version numbering.) Since the FAQ is kind of a community effort, would anyone object if I went through it and dropped any mention of releases earlier than 2.30? Or if that's too aggressive, what do you think is a reasonable cut off? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?
On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:30 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 13:19 +, Pete Biggs wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 04:10 -0500, dar...@ontrenet.com wrote: Huh? Many people don't leave their messages on ISP servers because of quotas, Get a better ISP. so then they get downloaded to their local machine. Where you want fast, reliable access to them (e.g. searching, sorting, etc.) Unfortunately, without ACID principles, your local email will get corrupted. And most don't want that. Because database technology (embedded or otherwise), use things called 'transactions' it protects the data. If you brew your own 'local storage system' like Evolution, you have what we have now which is unreliable and slow. My turn to say Huh?. In what way has Evo brewed it's own storage system? It uses standard MBOX files on top of the native filesystem. That's about as standard as it gets. I say - Heh?. ;) Because I come down on the other side; the app might be better off if they brewed their own storage format [like Cyrus IMAP did] and ditched the standard crap [my opinion of both mbox and maildir]. An application's data should be a sealed container and accessed only via an API / service My opinion is: Evolution based its design on well excepted UNIX standards at the time (late nineties). Now, whether that standard is still relevant today may be debatable. I think an example of a brewed storage format is that of Outlook 's opaque mail information store. When a relative experiences a corrupted Outlook file, I just shrug my shoulders as there is little I can do. However with Evolution, because it uses standard message stores, I can use tools like mutt to fix my MBOX files and recover from various problems. I also have experienced more problems with Evo's sqllite's index files than I have ever experienced with the MBOX format. Thank goodness the sqllite database only stores information that can be re-constructed from the MBOX files. I am a database guy. I do a ton of Oracle, SQL Server, Postgres and Mysql work. However even I recognize a database is not a solution for everything. Cheers, Rob All the rest of the stuff that Evo uses (like the index files) are purely to try and speed up searching and accessing those files. There's no doubt that MBOX files can be fragile if you get impatient and interrupt a program's access to them while they are being written, especially if they are large - that's why Evo provides other file formats - based on standards - such as Maildir and MH. However, if you really feel that Evo would benefit from using some proprietary format backed database for mail, then I'm sure the devs would be more than happy to look at any code you submit. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?
Hello Darren,
I have had problems with my large Evolution Inbox and Sent mail boxes. I
took the steps described below to improve the performance of Evolution.
I too noticed Evolution getting slow and performing like a dog. Also
Expunges were not completing for me. I moved my clutter from Inbox and
Sent mail boxes to archive mail files. Since I have done this Evolution
has performed much better but I do suffer the annoyance of daily crashes
from which I can recover from quickly.
Recipe for archiving mail boxes.
1) I moved old e-mails up to 01/01/2009 into an archive mail box.
2) I attempted to deleted the old e-mails in the active inbox.
3) Evolution continued to fail to expunge the deleted mail messages..
4) So.. I closed evolution. I used mutt to open the Inbox
{{{
mutt -f Inbox
}}}
5) I used mutt to delete the e-mail up 01/01/2009 from the active mail
box.
Mutt did the deed and saved the Inbox without the deleted messages.
6) Evolution is now able to expunge the active Inbox as it should.
Thank you,
Rob
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 17:31 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 09:29 -0500, Darren Govoni wrote:
Well, I think it happened when it was hung on 'Storing folder' when
downloading messages for a very long time and I canceled it. The
dialog hung and I brought the app down hard. Ok, generally not a good
thing, but it was hung.
Hi,
hmm, that might broke your folders.db file(s) and explain all the issues
you are experiencing.
After that I couldn't open my Inbox folder. I could open others
though. After almost every receive mail action, I get errors storing
folder. And the folder rotates around. Not always the same. The error
dialog for that claims something about a 'column name'.
Heh, exact message would be good too, but as long as it sounds like the
DB corruption...
When downloading messages from a single POP endpoint, it goes into
'Storing folder (0%-100%)' over and over. Not sure what that is and
why it does it every time.
Please go to
~/.local/share/evolution/mail
where are 'pop' and 'local' folders, where each contains a folders.db
file. Could you try to stop evolution and then move away (not delete,
just in case something will be worse) those two folders.db files away,
and then run evolution again, to see whether it'll be better, when the
files will be regenerated from scratch, please?
Also, I believe no ACID may help you when you are killing hung
application in the middle of its operation. :)
Bye,
Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Help attachments, incoming gmail, MAPI exchange connector
Hello Tory, On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 19:00 -0700, Tory M Blue wrote: Okay running F12, Evolution 2.28.3. First I can't seem to send attachments that anyone can open or read without major work on their end. This work around requires a web server you have access to place files on. Sometimes I will create a document and upload the document to a web server URL. I then refer to the HTTP URL in my e-mail, rather than an attached document. This allows me to make a quick revision or two to the document before the recipients open the document. However, I don't do this because Evolution is in capable of sending attachments. In fact I have few problems with attaching documents using evolution. Having said that, I do have considerable problems with one mail server thru which I send e-mail. The server pro-actively scrubs ZIP files, doc files, and even sometimes .xls files. So with this mail server, it often takes several attempts, changing the document extension type etc. to get the server to deliver as it should. This is NOT a problem with Evolution, but rather a problem with the mail server I am using in this case. Could you be having a problem similar to this? Thank you, Rob ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Summary and folder mismatch after trying the usual fixes
Hello Zak, My Inbox grew to 573MB from 1999-2008. Evolution started choking on it for me. Periodic crashes. Very frustrating. My solution was to move my original 573 MB inbox to a different folder name and let Evolution create a new Inbox. After I did this Evolution was much more stable. If your Inbox is large, I highly recommend renaming it (from the Linux file system) and letting evolution create a new one. Best of luck, Rob On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 13:10 -0400, Zak Wilson wrote: The summary and folder mismatch even after a sync error is pretty common in Evolution. Usually just closing the program and re-opening it is enough to get rid of the error. Sometimes, it's necessary to delete the .index, .index.data and .cmeta files, then give it time to resync. I've done all that. I also moved .evolution/mail/local/*, started with an empty inbox, then used the import function on the old one. After doing so, the problem occurs again, which suggests there's something about the contents of the inbox that Evolution doesn't like. I have 35,000 email messages stored here, and I'd like to keep them in Evolution where I can sort them, search them and arrange things with search folders. I'd be happy to delete a couple corrupted messages if that's the issue. The difficulty is finding them. If there's something specific to look for, I can write a script to search the inbox for corrupted messages. If there are other solutions or workarounds, I'd really like to hear them. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] copying contacts from google to the local contact list
Hello Eddie, Evolution can sync contact information from your Google mail account. http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8226-how-to-sync-evolution-with-googles-pim-apps I personally sync my contacts between Evolution and GMail and it works well. However I use Evolution as a read-only recipient of the contact data. Meaning I do not create or edit contact information very often in Evolution. If there any questions, please ask. Cheers, Rob On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 14:25 -0400, Eddie Colon wrote: Hello everybody I'm not a member of this list, so please forgive me if this is not the right procedure. I have a problem using Evolution 2.28.3 on my Ubuntu 10.04 netbook. When I tryto pick 5 or 10 contacts from the google list and copy them over to my local addressbook, Evolution data server freezes and nothing happens. I check and no contacts have been copied. I tried copying one contact at a time, and also a few at a time, and no change. I go to the desktop system monitor, and see that the cpu is at 100%. I go to processes tab, I kill the Evo data server, then the cpu is back to normal. I didn't use Evolution as my PIM before but I want to use it now, I have been investing time reading the users guide and tranfering my old memos and tasks. Now I want to populate my local calendar and addressbook with my google stuff. Can somebody tell me if this is a bug or not? Here are some helpful details : Acer netbook, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 , Evolution 2.28.3 , 2 gig ram, 3 gig swap, 70 gig free space on HDisk, and I check updates every day. Will I get an email answer ? or do I have to join to see an answer ? I thank you in advance -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contacts Synch/Read Question...
I missed the original e-mail. Sorry for top posting, but this message is short anyway. I use evolution to sync with my Google Contacts and it works well. I must admit I only make changes on the Google side and they come trickling back to my evolution client. I have a T-Mobile G1 Android phone and the whole arrangement works quite well for me. I can get to my contacts from my phone, g-mail account and evolution. Brilliant, if you ask me! Best of Luck, Rob On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 11:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 09:20 -0400, Jerry LeVan wrote: Is it possible to have Evolution either synch or have read access to any of the Mac Address Book/Mobile Me Address Book/Google Contacts? I haven't tried it but synch-evolution supports synching to a Funambol server, which in turn can be synched to Google Contacts via a Funambol connector plugin (https://google-connector.forge.funambol.org/). You can get a free Funambol account (see the Funambol page) or set up your own server. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Plugins
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 16:04 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 15:22 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Heh, I've been waiting for more news on developing Evo plugins using Mono. http://psankar.blogspot.com/2007/10/write-evolution-plugins-using-mono-c.html Sadly, it has been very quiet. The language bindings are horribly out of date and unmaintained and will probably remain so until we add introspection support to our libraries. Unfortunately that's not really on any of our radars (speaking for the sorely understaffed development team) but it would be a great place to contribute to Evolution-Data-Server without having to acquire a deep technical understanding of the code. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Hello, So am I to understand, that evolution plugins integrate into the back end server process rather than the front end UI? If this is the case, I would seriously vote for adding a facility to create front end evolution plug ins. If evolution did this, we could make evolution as idiosyncratic as we pleased thru plug-ins. Thank you, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution Plugins
Hello, Has anyone on the list ever written their own Evolution Plugin? For instance, is it possible for a plug in to override the behavior of the Composer's Send Button? E.g. before the e-mail is sent, the plug in could verify change the format of the message to HTML, if that is the receiver's preference. Also preferably, I would like to write my plug-in in Python. Cheers, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office:734.726.0313 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] generating message list problem
Hello Drew,
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 18:23 +0100, drew wrote:
Hi all,
I used be able to open up evolution and my inbox was just there.
Now it can take almost a minute to generate a list. I have increased
the size of the swap file to 2gb its got 2gb of RAM and I have radically
pruned the size of the inbox thinking this was a memory problem, but to
no avail.
Any ideas.
I had an e-mail box that had gone wrong ( 10 years of e-mail). Evolution
failed to expunge the in-box every time I tried.
I solved it with the following recipe:
A couple of weeks back I had problems with expunging deleted
e-mail from my inbox. The inbox was quite large 800 MB. I took
the following steps to resolve it.
1) I moved old e-mails up to 01/01/2009 into an archive mail
box.
2) I attempted to deleted the old e-mails in the active inbox.
3) Evolution continued to fail to expunge the deleted mail
messages..
4) So.. I closed evolution. I used mutt to open the Inbox
{{{
mutt -f Inbox
}}}
5) I used mutt to delete the e-mail up 01/01/2009 from the
active mail box.
Mutt did the deed and saved the Inbox without the deleted
messages.
6) Evolution is now able to expunge the active Inbox as it
should.
Oye..
Best of Luck,
Rob
Its ver. 2.28.1 running on Gnome.
Thanks
Drew
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Re: [Evolution] generating message list problem
I hate posting inline (top posting Nazis feel my scorn!). See my response below: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 20:51 +0100, drew wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 14:38 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 20:19 +0100, drew wrote: What is mutt? blasphemy!! www.mutt.org I use mutt to read e-mail on servers. I am not extra-ordinary comfortable using it. If you have used pine (please don't ask what pine is ;-) ), you can use mutt. The key commands are simple to learn and use. I like Evolution like the next guy, however i find mutt has rock solid support for the mbox mail format. It can handle inbox files that Evolution chokes on. Using mutt to clean up Evolution mbox inbox files has saved my bacon on several occasions. Of course for everyday mail reading and writing, Evolution rules. When it rains in paradise sometimes you need a mutt to chase the clouds away. Bad analogy I know. Best of luck, Rob Hey, what I can say, this heathen only worships at the altar of GUI, I like pretty buttons and things to click on. Seriously, though installing a new email package and learning how to use it seem a wee bit extreme to solve this problem. Happy in my blasphemy. Drew -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Suddenly lots of good stuff in the junk folder
According to slashdot.org, spamassassin incorrectly identifies mail dated in the year 2010 as spam. I believe spamassassin community has adjusted their rules to correct this problem. Cheers, Rob On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 10:09 -0200, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: Is a spamassassin problem, not an Evolution problem. I have Evolution (in Debian) with Bogofilter and it works fine. Regards Sylvia linuxyunaharley.blogspot.com blackbaghira.livejournal.com El sáb, 02-01-2010 a las 15:12 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan escribió: I use spamassasin to check for junk (local tests only). Suddenly I'm getting lots of good messages in the Junk folder, usually about 40 per day (I'm on a lot of mailing lists (8-)). There have always been some misfiled good messages, but usually only 3 or 4, along with a fair amount of spam. Now lots of good stuff, very little spam. The situation changed some time after Christmas, maybe just after New Year's. Does anyone have a clue what's happening? System details: Fedora-11 with all upgrades in particular: evolution-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-data-server-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-spamassassin-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 spamassassin-3.2.5-5.fc11.x86_64 Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cannot empty trash
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 00:46 +1100, John Ross wrote: Let's try a little role-play... You, the developer, have created a GUI app that regularly corrupts its own index files. You have been told about the bug some time ago and done some research, now you have turned up to a meeting with your PM claiming to have fixed it. Yes in this role-playing. Is the user a paying customer funding the developers work? If so, maybe this role-playing scenario is valid. If not, maybe the user needs to be patient and let the developer fix the root of the problem not the symptoms of the problem. I believe Mr Barnes has outlined an approach to fix the root of the problems. However we must be patient reap the harvest of fruit. PM: OK what's the fix? Developer: The user has to open a terminal and delete all these files called ~.xyzblahblah* every time it happens PM: You're not listening. That's a workaround, not a fix. You can't ask GUI users to run around rm'ing things! So when will you have it fixed? Developer: But it is fixed. PM: You're still not listening! What agency are you from? Developer: But... it's easy - all they need to do is... PM: Look, the files called ~.xyzblahblah* don't even exist in the current version, so you don't even have a workaround, let alone a fix. What agency? Developer: But... PM: FRIDAY, 5pm, no workarounds - a FIX! John Peace, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rseward/AT/bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] suggestion for evolution
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 22:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 19:09 -0400, Jay Daniels wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:59 -0700, Jeff Barnes wrote: Since Linux may become more popular in the future to where nongeeks use it I would like to suggest a slight improvement to Evolution email. When the send/receive button gets greyed out it seems like there might be a bug in the software when in reality it got switched to work offline which is buried in the menu. It would be a lot better if instead of greying out the send/receive button if it switched to saying work online I spent time wondering if I had been hacked because of this! Work offline should be transparent to the user. In what way? My understanding of transparent is everything works the same, online or offline. It's hard to see how that can be literally true. I am normally not a Mac user. However my wife has a MacBook that I was using recently with a wireless network. The network went away for 5 minutes. All the apps went into Offline mode. Then the wireless network came book (I don't why) and viola the apps went Online mode again. During this time I spent several minutes figuring out the network had gone away and why Firefox had suddenly gone into Offline Mode on its own. This is probably want is meant by transparently, however it would require event notification from the OS that the NIC to the internet has gone down. Thanks, Rob poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend
This is a silly question.. What are the advantages of removing bonobo as a dependency for Evolution? Thanks, Rob On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 16:48 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: This is a heads up that I'm going to attempt to finally merge the kill-bonobo branch this coming weekend (August 29/30). For those who haven't heard me yammering on about this for the past year, the kill-bonobo branch is a major rewrite of Evolution's core architecture with the primary goal of finally dropping our libbonobo and libbonoboui dependencies. This, combined with Ross Burton's porting of Evolution-Data-Server from Bonobo to D-Bus, should completely eradicate Bonobo from the Evolution stack by version 2.30. Merging this branch is going to break a lot of things for the next few weeks. That's why we branched early; to have some extra time to pick up the pieces. The Calendar is not 100% finished, Evolution-Exchange is not compatible with this branch, and most third party extensions will require significant adaptation. The take-away here is IF YOU REQUIRE WORKING BUILDS, USE THE GNOME-2-28 BRANCH. The sausage making is particularly messy right now, so unless you're involved in it I'd advise you to steer clear of the master branch until further notice. Thanks, Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trash and Compose wierdness !? -[SOLVED -- I hope]
Hello Patrick, Space on /tmp is never a problem on my laptop. I have 15GB available now and likely had a similar amount when I had my expunge problem. I regularly do expunge my Inbox. 5-6 times a day. My expunge problem was triggered by receiving an e-mail with a large attachment from my mother-in-law. I know it is not fair to blame the mother in law but she is an easy target. ;-) The morale of the story in my opinion, is to not keep all your e-mail for the last decade in your current Inbox. Anyway, I hope my solution helps someone else out. Thanks, Rob On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:18 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:19 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Rob; On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:00 -0400, Robert Seward wrote: Hello William, William, in your case you might be able to use mutt (or something similar) to strategically delete the persistent e-mail that can't be expunged. Best of luck, Rob I should of thought of using mutt to expunge. I found a slightly different solution this time, but I will try mutt if it ever happens again. I should of thought of it, because every few months I prune my saved folder by moving posts I want to keep into an Evo archive file, copy the archive to a text file in a completely separate directory, empty the Evo archive and use mutt to view the archive.txt when I need to. I suspect this sort of problem arises when the local mbox file for Inbox gets close to 2GB in size, because the internal Evo indices only handle up to 2GB per file even though the underlying filesystem might support much larger files (I seem to remember reports of this in the past but I can't be bothered hunting them down :-). Not expunging your deleted mails regularly will do that. If you use a different local format such as Maildir, you shouldn't have this problem, but support for Maildir in Evo seems to have stagnated. Another reason to keep most of your mail on IMAP ... Note that you can also get issues when there isn't enough free space on the /tmp filesystem to allow an expunge of a huge mbox file to work (expunging of mbox implies copying). poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trash and Compose wierdness !? -[SOLVED -- I hope]
Hello William, I had a similar problem. Since Fedora 9 I was having problems expunging my whole Inbox (it was 900 MB or something). I was hopeful an upgrade to Fedora 10 would fix my problem. It did not. Over the course of several months, I had thousands of e-mails accumulate that could not be expunged. In evolution, I would expunge the box, it would work for several months and then tell me the expunge failed. I solved the problem finally by firing up mutt (a text based mail program). I decided to split my Inbox into 2009 e-mails and everything else. I did this in evolution using the mail copy feature. With a clear strategy for reducing the number of e-mails in my working Inbox (I deleted all e-mail older than 2009 in my working Inbox). I shutdown evolution and run mutt with my mailbox formatted Inbox file. It was a matter of using the delete command 5,000 times or so in Mutt. Luckily the mutt accelerator keys are easy to use and fast. Within 30 minutes or so, I had my Inbox ready to use for evolution again and expunging works again. Morale of the story, don't allow your working Inbox to grow too large. William, in your case you might be able to use mutt (or something similar) to strategically delete the persistent e-mail that can't be expunged. Best of luck, Rob On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:22 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi Peter; On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:11 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: For what it is worth, the end of time period for emails that won't expunge corresponds (roughly) to my virgin install of Fedora 11 and Evolution. I think somehow Evo's restore function messed up at that time. I did a clean install of F11, but I have separate /home partition and it coped fine with everything. Perhaps there's some difference between how IMAP and POP is handled. I usually use my /home partition as well. But over several versions of Fedora the cruft in /home had been building up so this time I backed everything up to a separate hard disk and started clean, including /home, on my Linux disk. I used Evo File = Backup to store evo on my backup hard disk; after installation I restored (Evo File = Restore) from the backup hard disk. It should all work. I hadn't touched any of my Evo settings before or since the new installation -- until a couple of days ago when I first decided to try and fix the non-expunge problem. I am getting really frustrated. I can understand - but there will be something simple that's causing it, the problem is finding it No reply required. I am just being a bit defensive. An afterthought. Could going from ext3 to ext4 on my new /home partition have anything to do with it? -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Inbox Expunge Fails with a solution
Hello, I had a quite old Inbox (835 MB worth). When I upgraded to Fedora 10, expunging my Inbox started to fail. Evolution would spin it wheels for quite some time and finally report the expunge had failed. I tried to split my Inbox up into messages from 2000-2008 and leave only 2009 messages in my Inbox. Even so Evolution still failed to expunge the Inbox. So I set the problem a side to solve at a later date. The later data came along and I remembered mutt a command line e-mail client is really good at manipulating the mail box format that my Inbox is in. So I closed Evolution, evolultion --force-shutdown and I opened my Inbox with mutt. mutt -f ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox. In mutt I simply deleted all the e-mails from 2000-2008, because I had moved those to another Inbox. I simply saved the Inbox back to disk without the deleted messages and quit mutt. I then re-opened the Inbox with Evolution. I tried to Expunge the much smaller Inbox (250 MB). It failed again but much quicker. I then had the bright idea to delete the Inbox index files (Inbox.ibex.index and Inbox.ibex.index.data). I then re-opened Evolution and the expunge was successful. So far the Inbox has expunged successfully for several days. If someone else suffers from the problem, I hope this technique is useful for them to resolve their problem. Of course, I would love to hear about an easier solution to this problem using only evolution utilities or widely available command line tools. Thank you, Rob -- Rob Seward Bluestone Consulting Group, LLC web: http://www.bluestone-consulting.com/ e-mail: rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com office: 734.274.5168 mobile: 734.604.3780 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problem viewing calendars on multiple machines
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 13:27 +, Chris G wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:53:05AM +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Minor correction: it is not SyncML the protocol which limits the kinds of data that can be exchanged, it is SyncML server XYZ or SyncML client ABC which only support certain kinds of data. -- snip, snip -- This discussion has taught me a lot, maybe I play devil's advocate too much but I'm really not simply moaning about things. I'm trying to discuss weaknesses and look at ways to improve - possibly by looking at radically different approaches. I know only too well the programmers mind set (I'm often there) you get sort of tunnel vision and hammer away at the immediate problem without realising that there's a totally different and much better way to achieve the same end. In fact all this discussion has set me off on another track, I don't *actually* use my E71 heavily for calendar and don't very often enter addresses on it. So it seems to me that my solution may not be synchronization at all. I'll find a desktop application I'm happy with, possibly one that will synchronise with something on the web by sharing .ics files and then will update my E71 occasionally from my desktop. Chris, For what is worth, I have achieved PIM Nirvana by purchasing a T-Moble G1 Android phone. I can sync my Google Mail Calendar and Contact information to my phone. Evolution can also access my Google Contacts. I am able to add events and contacts on my phone and bam they appear on my desktops and in evolution. Evolution can add contacts, however I personally don't add a lot of calendar events via Evolution. I know this all uses an external web site owned by an evil corporation and requires the purchase of new cell phone; but what the hay it works with my open source software they way I want. Good luck, Rob ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] I am unable to Expunge my inbox.
Hello, I am new to the list but I am having problems expunging my Inbox. Evolution 2.24.1 (Fedora 10) The expunge reaches 55% and then dies with a message: Mail file and summary are out of sync even after a sync. (From memory; Actual message might be slightly different.) My Inbox file is 487M. I have tried removing the summary file and letting evolution re-create it. But evolution has not been able to create a complete summary file. Any ideas on how to work around this problem? Thank you, Rob ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] I am unable to Expunge my inbox.
Hello Patrick, The Inbox file is local. My /tmp directory is on my root partition. I have 20 GB free on root. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/md1 29G 8.1G 20G 30% / .. so things should be good there. I had some problems upgrading from Evolution 2.22 - 2.24 (FC9 - FC10). Every time Evolution tried to build the sqlite summary file it died trying to allocate 8GB of memory! So maybe my Inbox file has grown too large? Is a 487MB mail file too large for Evolution? To work around the conversion problem I followed some advice I found on the Ubuntu forums. The Ubuntu post advised that to avoid the mandatory conversion of the summary files, I should mislead Evolution to believe that 2.24 was already active on my account by changing some gnome registry keys. I did this and was able to start Evolution, it can read my mail file, etc. However I can't expunge my Inbox file. I was hoping someone on the list had discovered a work around for a similar problem. Thank you, Rob On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 17:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 15:34 -0500, Robert Seward wrote: Hello, I am new to the list but I am having problems expunging my Inbox. Evolution 2.24.1 (Fedora 10) The expunge reaches 55% and then dies with a message: Mail file and summary are out of sync even after a sync. (From memory; Actual message might be slightly different.) My Inbox file is 487M. I have tried removing the summary file and letting evolution re-create it. But evolution has not been able to create a complete summary file. Is the Inbox local or on a server? If local, is there enough free disk space in /tmp for the folder to be copied? poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] I am unable to Expunge my inbox.
Believe me, I tried to make the conversion process work. I tried it three times. Each time the conversion failed saying it failed to allocate 8 GB of memory. My lowly 4 GB laptop was not adequate for this conversion process. Of course I was able to bring Evolution to a workable state by passing the conversion process. By the way I need Evolution to do my day to day work. So not having Evolution available for a long period of time is NOT an option. I am open to suggestions on how to make my Inbox successfully convert its summary to the new sqlite format. Any ideas? Anyone? Thanks, Rob On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 19:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 18:22 -0500, Robert Seward wrote: Hello Patrick, The Inbox file is local. My /tmp directory is on my root partition. I have 20 GB free on root. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/md1 29G 8.1G 20G 30% / .. so things should be good there. I had some problems upgrading from Evolution 2.22 - 2.24 (FC9 - FC10). Every time Evolution tried to build the sqlite summary file it died trying to allocate 8GB of memory! So maybe my Inbox file has grown too large? Is a 487MB mail file too large for Evolution? Certainly not. Some people have gigabytes in their inboxes :-) To work around the conversion problem I followed some advice I found on the Ubuntu forums. The Ubuntu post advised that to avoid the mandatory conversion of the summary files, I should mislead Evolution to believe that 2.24 was already active on my account by changing some gnome registry keys. I did this and was able to start Evolution, it can read my mail file, etc. However I can't expunge my Inbox file. That sounds like it could be the culprit. Fooling Evo into not reindexing on conversion sounds like a really bad idea, given that the index system has completely changed with 2.24. In your place I would try to back out those changes and start again. At least revert the registry stuff (with gnome-conf turned off of course). You did take a backup before trying this didn't you? poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
