OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an OST That Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)

2001-10-19 Thread David N Precht

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RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue

2001-10-19 Thread Don Ely

Ahhh...  That was the tool I was trying to think of earlier.  Good find
Jennifer!

D

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


if you cannot find the old exchange client to rename the inbox, use
mdbvu32.exe which is in the SERVER\SUPPORT\UTILS\I386 on the 5.5 cd. logon
to user's mailbox open mdbvu32.exe

hit ok  go to mdb  open message store  highlight the users mailbox  hit
open  go to mdb  open root folder  double click top of information store
 double click renamed inbox  hit call function  click set properties 
 
highlight PR_Display_Name  type Inbox in the Prop data box  click add 
click call  click close  click close  click close  click close  click
close  hit X  click ok  click ok

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Well, the TechNet article said it was a problem in O2K, and I quote:

OL2000: Inbox May Be Renamed When Deleting an Appointment

The user remembers his secretary being active in his calendar when this
happens, so I'm thinking that's probably it.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 14:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I'd be very curious as to how that happened.  There isn't an
option in O2K
to rename the inbox.

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Hi Gang!

   We have a user whose Inbox got renamed.  (Exchange 5.5,
sp4.  NT 4
sp 6a, user Outlook 2000).

   I found TechNet article Q249750 which seemed to be a
very good fit
for our situation.  The article said to use exchng32.exe to rename the
mailbox.  I had to look around the shop, but i did find a copy 
of that old
exchange client.  Problem is, it won't run, at least not on my win2000
desktop.  Get an error that reads:

   'The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.'
 Same on an
NT4 box.  Do i have a bad copy of exchng32.exe?  (mine is time stamped
8/9/96.  Where can i get a good one?  

   Or do i have to run this on a win98 box or something?
It looks like
it runs in a dos window

   Or does somebody know another way to rename an inbox back to
INBOX?

   Thanks, Lynne

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Mailbox Security

2001-10-19 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Someone has added a group to the permissions in the Exchange Admin program.
And if that is hosed up, there's no telling what other fun permissions your
predecessor has set up elsewhere on your network! :)  

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: DonFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox Security


I cannot figure this one out. The Exchange server v5.5 was setup prior to my
working at the current location. It was found out that anyone can access
anyone elses email box by using OpenOther User's Folder I checked the
settings on the folders themselves and found as the default, no one has
access. You are still allowed access though.

WHAT AM I MISSING%#@%*!

Any help would be appriciated.

DonFG

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RE: seperating atachments

2001-10-19 Thread Stephen Mynhier

KVS K-Vault (Enterprise Vault)
http://www.k-vault.com

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: seperating atachments


I am looking for a program (or way) to automaticaly seperate all of the
attachments from the emails in outlook 2000 mailboxes and public on exchange
5.5 to the file server while leaving a link in the message to the new
location of the attachment.

A great way to downsize the size of the info. store.

thx

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RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.

2001-10-19 Thread Stephen Mynhier

You can set some of the ports as static (IS, DS, MTA, etc.,) but you cannot
assign a static port to UDP Push Notification.  If ports1024 are blocked,
your Outlook clients might be able to send and receive mail just fine, but
the blocked Push will prevent the view from refreshing.  This results in the
APPEARANCE that mail is not coming in until you change folders, mail not
leaving the outbox, etc.,  

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Maybe I didn't understand the post.  I believe you can especially if your
behind a firewall.  Refer to Q148732.

XADM: Setting TCP/IP Port Numbers for Internet Firewalls [Q148732]


-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


You cannot make that static.  That range that you listed is for the UDP Push
Notification from the Exchange server to the client.  It is a randomly
selected (by the client) UDP port above 1024.  The Exchange server uses this
to send the new mail notification (refresh command) to the client.

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Went through TechNet and couldn't find any reference to the actual range.
Found the articles on how to make it static, but no range.  Also posted that
question on the list asking about the range and I don't recall anyone
stating what it was.  The MS tech I talked to had to place me on hold 3
times to get the answer. -Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


You could have searched the MSKB and figured that out.  There's plenty of
documentation out there...

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Just a note to everyone.  We called Microsoft and inquired what the range
for the two random ports were that Exchange allocates to the client once it
connects to a socket.  According to Microsoft the range is from 1,024 to
64,000.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


No security consultant I know is going to open holes in the network from the
DMZ to the Internal network.  Being proficient in both Exchange and
Security, I feel sorry for your clients if you suggest the model you propose
below to them.

I think you ought to study up on security some more...

If you open holes from the DMZ to the internal LAN, why in the hell do you
have a DMZ.  You've made the DMZ virtually pointless.  Or did your teacher
or book you read say something different.  If it were a book that told you
to configure things this way, please send me the ISBN number, I really wanna
read that book.  Apparently, I've been taking the wrong approach for years
now.

I happen to know of a company who has the same model you describe.  After I
showed them the security issues, they were desiring a change for the better
immediately.

-Original Message-
From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 9:55 PM
 
 Don't bother.  Use a proxy server and publish OWA.  Or require SSL and 
 open port 443.  Or implement a VPN.  I still think putting an Exchange 
 front-end server in a DMZ is kind of silly.  Not as silly with 
 Exchange 2000 as with
 Exchange 5.5, but silly nonetheless.

Ed, 

I don't find this silly at all. Let me try to clarify:

Scenario A:

You have an Internet connection coming to a firewall. Behind the firewall in
your internal network you have an Exchange server. You also have a web
server (maybe on the same box, maybe different box). You allow HTTPS traffic
through the firewall to the web server in the LAN.

Scenario B:

You have an Internet connection coming to a firewall. Behind the firewall in
your internal network you have an Exchange server. In a DMZ segment (which
can be a third network card in the firewall, or a segment between two
firewalls) you have a web server. HTTPS traffic is allowed to the web
server, and required ports (say, RPC, NetBIOS, InfoStore, Directory) are
allowed from the web server through the firewall to the Exchange server.


Scenario A has following 

RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue

2001-10-19 Thread Don Ely

aol mode

Me too!

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I'm trying to quit smoking

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I would say me too, but then I would be breaking law number 3.4 of the
swinc bible.  I have run into this issue more than 5 times, obviously. Also,
I love the tool.  Manager is impressed when I use it and manage to
*not* crash the server.  Note to self and others: it is a dangerous tool.

your craving of nicotine was brought on by the repetition of click close
 click close  click close...you sicko.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Jennifer, that was awesome. A lot of digging down there. I felt like I
needed a cigarette after that.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


if you cannot find the old exchange client to rename the inbox, use
mdbvu32.exe which is in the SERVER\SUPPORT\UTILS\I386 on the 5.5 cd. logon
to user's mailbox open mdbvu32.exe

hit ok  go to mdb  open message store  highlight the users mailbox  hit
open  go to mdb  open root folder  double click top of information store
 double click renamed inbox  hit call function  click set properties
 
highlight PR_Display_Name  type Inbox in the Prop data box  click add
 click call  click close  click close  click close  click close 
click close  hit X  click ok  click ok

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Well, the TechNet article said it was a problem in O2K, and I quote:

OL2000: Inbox May Be Renamed When Deleting an Appointment

The user remembers his secretary being active in his calendar when this
happens, so I'm thinking that's probably it.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 14:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I'd be very curious as to how that happened.  There isn't an option in
O2K to rename the inbox.

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Hi Gang!

   We have a user whose Inbox got renamed.  (Exchange 5.5,
sp4.  NT 4
sp 6a, user Outlook 2000).

   I found TechNet article Q249750 which seemed to be a
very good fit
for our situation.  The article said to use exchng32.exe to rename the
mailbox.  I had to look around the shop, but i did find a copy of that 
old exchange client.  Problem is, it won't run, at least not on my 
win2000 desktop.  Get an error that reads:

   'The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.'
 Same on an
NT4 box.  Do i have a bad copy of exchng32.exe?  (mine is time stamped
8/9/96.  Where can i get a good one?

   Or do i have to run this on a win98 box or something?
It looks like
it runs in a dos window

   Or does somebody know another way to rename an inbox back to
INBOX?

   Thanks, Lynne

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: After applying Service Pack4 on our exchange5.5 and post SP4 fix for MTA

2001-10-19 Thread Stephen Mynhier

1) You are not looking at the event on an Exchange server
2) Event 9322 is a network problem of some sort (RPC server unavailable if I
remember correctly).  I normally drop a HOSTS file on the Exchange servers
so that they can see each other.  Exchange 5.5 uses a HOSTS file, if
present, as it's primary form of name resolution.  See then if it
disappears.  If it does, then troubleshoot your WINS or DNS, otherwise,
troubleshoot your network.

Stephen 

-Original Message-
From: Jain, Manoj - EMO Trans Freeport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: After applying Service Pack4 on our exchange5.5 and post SP4 fix
for MTA


We have two NT4.0 Servers with Exchange5.5 SP4 and post SP4 MTA fix. I see
the following error on one of the server on LAN. Event ID 9322: The
description for Event ID(9322) in source(MSExchangeMTA) could not be found.
It contains the following strings, 28,1722,1722,0, HQSERVER-1,
ncacn_ip_tcp[1058] BASE IL, INCOMING RPC, 36, 507. Mail flow is OK between
the two MTAs. Microsoft is still wotking on the problem. Has anyone come
across this problem ???

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RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes

2001-10-19 Thread Stephen Mynhier

I don't remember THAT being said in the last meeting!

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


Minutes of last meeting and date of next meeting attached.

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RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions

2001-10-19 Thread jason . tuffin

Mike

Thankyou for your comments, but our requirement is to have the team leaders
of each of the groups (about 800) modify the permissions of their folders as
staff move between teams quite regularly, and other people need access
temporarily to assist with operations. 

Regards

Jason Tuffin

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


Don't give users Owner permissions on the top level folder. Reserve that
permission to your Exchange admins. Users shouldn't need to be changing
permissions at the upper levels, anyway, and those permission sets shouldn't
change very frequently (if you are using DLs for granting permission). As
long as they can create folders under the top level, they'll have owner
permissions on the folders they create and can do the things you listed.

You might also (if you haven't already) turn on deleted items retention for
your public folders, and do the dumpsteralwayson registry hack on your
machine so you can easily recover those items.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


I am having a little difficulty with owners of folders deleting the top
level folder for their group. Our environment has 500 or so Org Units and
each org unit has a public folder visible to the whole org unit. Within the
Org unit we assign 1 or 2 users with owner rights, and the rest of the
members of the org unit are listed with author rights.

Our problem is that the owners are accidently deleting the top level
folders. 

Is there a way that we can assign permissions to someone which will allow
them to: 
change the client permissions for the folder;
view, edit and delete messages;
create and delete subfolders;
but not delete the top level folder?

If you have any ideas I am happy to test and investigate further.

Thanks and best regards

Jason Tuffin
CSC Exchange Server Support
for WA Police Service



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RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions

2001-10-19 Thread Mark Harford

If the folders were permissioned with dlists then these team leaders would
only need to edit the dlists and not the PF permissions directly.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 09:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


Mike

Thankyou for your comments, but our requirement is to have the team leaders
of each of the groups (about 800) modify the permissions of their folders as
staff move between teams quite regularly, and other people need access
temporarily to assist with operations. 

Regards

Jason Tuffin

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


Don't give users Owner permissions on the top level folder. Reserve that
permission to your Exchange admins. Users shouldn't need to be changing
permissions at the upper levels, anyway, and those permission sets shouldn't
change very frequently (if you are using DLs for granting permission). As
long as they can create folders under the top level, they'll have owner
permissions on the folders they create and can do the things you listed.

You might also (if you haven't already) turn on deleted items retention for
your public folders, and do the dumpsteralwayson registry hack on your
machine so you can easily recover those items.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


I am having a little difficulty with owners of folders deleting the top
level folder for their group. Our environment has 500 or so Org Units and
each org unit has a public folder visible to the whole org unit. Within the
Org unit we assign 1 or 2 users with owner rights, and the rest of the
members of the org unit are listed with author rights.

Our problem is that the owners are accidently deleting the top level
folders. 

Is there a way that we can assign permissions to someone which will allow
them to: 
change the client permissions for the folder;
view, edit and delete messages;
create and delete subfolders;
but not delete the top level folder?

If you have any ideas I am happy to test and investigate further.

Thanks and best regards

Jason Tuffin
CSC Exchange Server Support
for WA Police Service



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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Robert Ellis

If you are running active/active, you should have 3 groups:

In our case - 'Cluster' group, which should contain the quorum disk
resource, cluster network name resource, and cluster ip address
resource.

2 Exchange Virtual Server groups, (EVS1 and EVS2 in our case).  Each
contains a disk resource (or 2 - one for data, one for logs), ip address
resource, network name resource, and exchange SA resource.  The rest of
the resources are created by the exchange install.


Regards,

Rob Ellis
Messaging Consultant
Service Delivery Solutions  Programmes
IBM Global Services
DDI: 01256 752845
Mobile: 07974 111867
Fax: 01256 754899
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

I have exactly that setup as you are explaining.  I'm just trying to
figure
out when I'm in Cluster Admin that when I go to the servers listed in
there
at the bottom.  It has listed under each server:  Active Groups, Active
Resources, and Network Interfaces.  I'm sorry if this sounds elmentary
but I
don't know jack about cluster servers (but learning).  But how come
under
these folders all the active groups and resources are only listed under
one
server while both servers are up and running?  Is this the way it should
be
setup if you are running active/active cluster server?  Thanks for the
help.

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Winterton, Robert K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


At a minimum, I would think you would have disk resources for:
1: the Quorum drive
2: Data drive for node 1
3: Log drive for node 1
4: Data drive for node 2
5: Log drive for node 2
You might be able to combine the Data and Log drives for each node into
a
single disk resource since they would failover together.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2K Clustering


All,

I'm trying to install active/active clustering for Exchange 2k.  When
I'm
setting up virtual servers you have to setup the IP address Resource,
Net
Name,and Disk resource.  Now I'm curious, do I have to have 2 disks
setup on
W2K Disk Manager for each server?  I would think that it uses just one
disk
resource since it's Active/Active cluster.  I'm reading the white paper
on
this and it just says to repeat the step for the other node in the
clusterif
you are using Active/Active.  Can someone please shed some light onto
this?

Thanks alot,

John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes

2001-10-19 Thread Busby, Jacob

Wow! I'm a member of the of circle? When do I get to laugh manically, twirl
my moustache imperiously and tie young maidens to the railroad tracks.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


Minutes of last meeting and date of next meeting attached.


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Re: AntiVirus Change

2001-10-19 Thread tiago . carvalho


And I am trying to convince my supervisor to not use InoculateIT and use
Sybari's Antigen instead... but, as you already know, that isn't an easy
task...

So, I beg you: please give me some link to a website/document that
compares antivirus for exchange server 5.5, so I can show my superiors the
mistake they are doing!!

I guess the new version of InoculateIT (eTrust InoculateIT 6.0, if i'm not
mistaken) is better than version 4... but I still consider Antigen better
than InoculateIT.

Thanks!


 Ok, I am trying to convince my Supervisor to switch from InoculateIT to
 Antigen.  Can someone point me to their website so that I can get some more
 information about the product and get my research started.  Both my mail
 servers are Nt 4.0 w/SP6a, running Exchange 5.5 w/SP4

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RE: After applying Service Pack4 on our exchange5.5 and post SP4 fix for MTA

2001-10-19 Thread Couch, Nate

We did the same thing and it worked like a champ.  When DNS fails. . .thank
God for the HOSTS file.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

 --
 From: Stephen Mynhier
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 01:21
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: After applying Service Pack4 on our exchange5.5 and post
 SP4  fix for MTA
 
 1) You are not looking at the event on an Exchange server
 2) Event 9322 is a network problem of some sort (RPC server unavailable if
 I
 remember correctly).  I normally drop a HOSTS file on the Exchange servers
 so that they can see each other.  Exchange 5.5 uses a HOSTS file, if
 present, as it's primary form of name resolution.  See then if it
 disappears.  If it does, then troubleshoot your WINS or DNS, otherwise,
 troubleshoot your network.
 
 Stephen 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jain, Manoj - EMO Trans Freeport
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: After applying Service Pack4 on our exchange5.5 and post SP4 fix
 for MTA
 
 
 We have two NT4.0 Servers with Exchange5.5 SP4 and post SP4 MTA fix. I see
 the following error on one of the server on LAN. Event ID 9322: The
 description for Event ID(9322) in source(MSExchangeMTA) could not be
 found.
 It contains the following strings, 28,1722,1722,0, HQSERVER-1,
 ncacn_ip_tcp[1058] BASE IL, INCOMING RPC, 36, 507. Mail flow is OK between
 the two MTAs. Microsoft is still wotking on the problem. Has anyone come
 across this problem ???
 
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RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes

2001-10-19 Thread Bauer, Mr. Rick

I thought this was simply the creation of the latest script
kiddie...

Rick Bauer

-Original Message-
From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


Wow! I'm a member of the of circle? When do I get to laugh manically,
twirl my moustache imperiously and tie young maidens to the railroad
tracks.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


Minutes of last meeting and date of next meeting attached.


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RE: AntiVirus Change

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

The active answers section of Compaq's website does. It'd over a year old
now though and thus not really relevant anymore. But it sounds like external
validation is more important than internal testing. I can recommend some
folks to write you a fairly unbiased report on the current technologies for
Exchange 5.5. They'll certainly be less biased than say... a PC magazine
roundup on the subject.


Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: AntiVirus Change
 
 
 
 And I am trying to convince my supervisor to not use 
 InoculateIT and use Sybari's Antigen instead... but, as you 
 already know, that isn't an easy task...
 
 So, I beg you: please give me some link to a website/document 
 that compares antivirus for exchange server 5.5, so I can 
 show my superiors the mistake they are doing!!
 
 I guess the new version of InoculateIT (eTrust InoculateIT 
 6.0, if i'm not
 mistaken) is better than version 4... but I still consider 
 Antigen better than InoculateIT.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
  Ok, I am trying to convince my Supervisor to switch from 
 InoculateIT 
  to Antigen.  Can someone point me to their website so that 
 I can get 
  some more information about the product and get my research 
 started.  
  Both my mail servers are Nt 4.0 w/SP6a, running Exchange 5.5 w/SP4
 
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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Bowles, John L.

All,

I'm running clustering for Exchange 2k.  I'm in Cluster Administrator trying
to move a disk resource to a group.  But I keep getting the error message:
The cluster node is not the owner of the group.  I checked the properties
and the server (in the cluster) I'm trying to move it to is in the Possible
Owners list.  Does anyone have any ideas why I'm getting this error
message?

Thanks,
 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Robert Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


If you are running active/active, you should have 3 groups:

In our case - 'Cluster' group, which should contain the quorum disk
resource, cluster network name resource, and cluster ip address
resource.

2 Exchange Virtual Server groups, (EVS1 and EVS2 in our case).  Each
contains a disk resource (or 2 - one for data, one for logs), ip address
resource, network name resource, and exchange SA resource.  The rest of
the resources are created by the exchange install.


Regards,

Rob Ellis
Messaging Consultant
Service Delivery Solutions  Programmes
IBM Global Services
DDI: 01256 752845
Mobile: 07974 111867
Fax: 01256 754899
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

I have exactly that setup as you are explaining.  I'm just trying to
figure
out when I'm in Cluster Admin that when I go to the servers listed in
there
at the bottom.  It has listed under each server:  Active Groups, Active
Resources, and Network Interfaces.  I'm sorry if this sounds elmentary
but I
don't know jack about cluster servers (but learning).  But how come
under
these folders all the active groups and resources are only listed under
one
server while both servers are up and running?  Is this the way it should
be
setup if you are running active/active cluster server?  Thanks for the
help.

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Winterton, Robert K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


At a minimum, I would think you would have disk resources for:
1: the Quorum drive
2: Data drive for node 1
3: Log drive for node 1
4: Data drive for node 2
5: Log drive for node 2
You might be able to combine the Data and Log drives for each node into
a
single disk resource since they would failover together.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2K Clustering


All,

I'm trying to install active/active clustering for Exchange 2k.  When
I'm
setting up virtual servers you have to setup the IP address Resource,
Net
Name,and Disk resource.  Now I'm curious, do I have to have 2 disks
setup on
W2K Disk Manager for each server?  I would think that it uses just one
disk
resource since it's Active/Active cluster.  I'm reading the white paper
on
this and it just says to repeat the step for the other node in the
clusterif
you are using Active/Active.  Can someone please shed some light onto
this?

Thanks alot,

John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
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RE: Massive read activity

2001-10-19 Thread Dumb Guy

s..
if you are verrry quite, rich, you can hear the sound of cliques in this
discussion list..

..capice?
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Ok it made me laugh
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RE: OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an OST That Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)

2001-10-19 Thread Andy David

What does this have to do with PST=BAD?



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RE: Massive read activity

2001-10-19 Thread Tener, Richard

sure

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s..
if you are verrry quite, rich, you can hear the sound of cliques in this
discussion list..

..capice?
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Ok it made me laugh
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and since rich is back (nice going Andy) so i guess i'll be leaving. Oh..
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Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Another week ends
with no stops in the EV.
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RE: SMTP Queue active but mail not moving

2001-10-19 Thread Mike Morrison

In Exchange 5.5, when you look at the outbound mail queue, you can
double-click on the messages that aren't being sent and see what the reason
was. Can you do something similar on the IIS 6 SMTP queues? Or is there a
protocol log for SMTP separate from the regular event log that you could
look at? Somewhere, there should be more of a clue as to why the mail isn't
happening.

Mike Morrison
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Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


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Subject: SMTP Queue active but mail not moving


E2K sp1, w2k sp2

I am having an sporadic problem in which smtp mail is not being
delivered. When this happens I look at the queue on the server that is
not sending mail and the smtp connection in question shows active but
has messages sitting in it. I can enumerate the messages and the largest
message will 10-15KB. I have let the queue sit in the active state for
up to 30 minutes with no activity. I can restart the SMTP virtual server
and all mail is delivered immediately. The app event log is not showing
any events. Anyone seen this or know what may be causing this?

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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Javier Gonzalez

Installing SSS PPP
and praying for no stops
for not loose week end
(glup)


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Another week ends
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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Mike Morrison

RE: Dumb thought No 3:

Creating a new container for the CRs, while a good idea in my opinion, will
not prevent the addresses from muddying the GAL. It will make it easier to
separate the two entities out if the users, when addressing their messages,
choose to use the drop down menu next to the Show Messages from in the
address book to select one of the containers instead of the GAL, but the CRs
will most definitely show in the GAL without ABVs.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if you do
some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.

Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k names instead?

Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. Sync OL2k. Take
OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold breath #1). Sync
OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..

Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate users. And you
are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both the technical and
political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's into your dir
without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
create a new container and import the CR's into there.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today because once our GAL
is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately create address
book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views will involve
cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that process takes
time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 contact records into
a Public Folder without hanging up the client.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder contacts list?

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


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Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public folders that is
used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 60,000 records.
Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to use to update
the records in the folder.

 Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public Folders.  If I
import into a local folder, then move the folder into the Public Folders,
all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an Outlook Address
folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local folder, then
copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs up with such a
large list of records.

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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Lapworth, Christopher S.

To move a resource from one group to another in a cluster, both groups have
to be active on the same node.  My guess is that the group you are trying to
move the disk resource to is not owned (not active on) the same node as your
other group.

Chris Lapworth
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Unisys Corporation
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-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


All,

I'm running clustering for Exchange 2k.  I'm in Cluster Administrator trying
to move a disk resource to a group.  But I keep getting the error message:
The cluster node is not the owner of the group.  I checked the properties
and the server (in the cluster) I'm trying to move it to is in the Possible
Owners list.  Does anyone have any ideas why I'm getting this error
message?

Thanks,
 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-Original Message-
From: Robert Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


If you are running active/active, you should have 3 groups:

In our case - 'Cluster' group, which should contain the quorum disk
resource, cluster network name resource, and cluster ip address
resource.

2 Exchange Virtual Server groups, (EVS1 and EVS2 in our case).  Each
contains a disk resource (or 2 - one for data, one for logs), ip address
resource, network name resource, and exchange SA resource.  The rest of
the resources are created by the exchange install.


Regards,

Rob Ellis
Messaging Consultant
Service Delivery Solutions  Programmes
IBM Global Services
DDI: 01256 752845
Mobile: 07974 111867
Fax: 01256 754899
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

I have exactly that setup as you are explaining.  I'm just trying to
figure
out when I'm in Cluster Admin that when I go to the servers listed in
there
at the bottom.  It has listed under each server:  Active Groups, Active
Resources, and Network Interfaces.  I'm sorry if this sounds elmentary
but I
don't know jack about cluster servers (but learning).  But how come
under
these folders all the active groups and resources are only listed under
one
server while both servers are up and running?  Is this the way it should
be
setup if you are running active/active cluster server?  Thanks for the
help.

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-Original Message-
From: Winterton, Robert K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


At a minimum, I would think you would have disk resources for:
1: the Quorum drive
2: Data drive for node 1
3: Log drive for node 1
4: Data drive for node 2
5: Log drive for node 2
You might be able to combine the Data and Log drives for each node into
a
single disk resource since they would failover together.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2K Clustering


All,

I'm trying to install active/active clustering for Exchange 2k.  When
I'm
setting up virtual servers you have to setup the IP address Resource,
Net
Name,and Disk resource.  Now I'm curious, do I have to have 2 disks
setup on
W2K Disk Manager for each server?  I would think that it uses just one
disk
resource since it's Active/Active cluster.  I'm reading the white paper
on
this and it just says to repeat the step for the other node in the
clusterif
you are using Active/Active.  Can someone please shed some light onto
this?

Thanks alot,

John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
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RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions

2001-10-19 Thread Mike Morrison

Perzactly. Set the Team Leaders as owners of the distribution lists, and
give the DLs appropriate permissions (but not owner) to the public folders.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 4:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


If the folders were permissioned with dlists then these team leaders would
only need to edit the dlists and not the PF permissions directly.


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Sent: 19 October 2001 09:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


Mike

Thankyou for your comments, but our requirement is to have the team leaders
of each of the groups (about 800) modify the permissions of their folders as
staff move between teams quite regularly, and other people need access
temporarily to assist with operations. 

Regards

Jason Tuffin

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


Don't give users Owner permissions on the top level folder. Reserve that
permission to your Exchange admins. Users shouldn't need to be changing
permissions at the upper levels, anyway, and those permission sets shouldn't
change very frequently (if you are using DLs for granting permission). As
long as they can create folders under the top level, they'll have owner
permissions on the folders they create and can do the things you listed.

You might also (if you haven't already) turn on deleted items retention for
your public folders, and do the dumpsteralwayson registry hack on your
machine so you can easily recover those items.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ex 5.5 Public Folder Permissions


I am having a little difficulty with owners of folders deleting the top
level folder for their group. Our environment has 500 or so Org Units and
each org unit has a public folder visible to the whole org unit. Within the
Org unit we assign 1 or 2 users with owner rights, and the rest of the
members of the org unit are listed with author rights.

Our problem is that the owners are accidently deleting the top level
folders. 

Is there a way that we can assign permissions to someone which will allow
them to: 
change the client permissions for the folder;
view, edit and delete messages;
create and delete subfolders;
but not delete the top level folder?

If you have any ideas I am happy to test and investigate further.

Thanks and best regards

Jason Tuffin
CSC Exchange Server Support
for WA Police Service



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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Bowles, John L.

Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an Exchange cluster server?  

Thanks,

John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
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-Original Message-
From: Lapworth, Christopher S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


To move a resource from one group to another in a cluster, both groups have
to be active on the same node.  My guess is that the group you are trying to
move the disk resource to is not owned (not active on) the same node as your
other group.

Chris Lapworth
Software Engineer
Unisys Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


All,

I'm running clustering for Exchange 2k.  I'm in Cluster Administrator trying
to move a disk resource to a group.  But I keep getting the error message:
The cluster node is not the owner of the group.  I checked the properties
and the server (in the cluster) I'm trying to move it to is in the Possible
Owners list.  Does anyone have any ideas why I'm getting this error
message?

Thanks,
 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Robert Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


If you are running active/active, you should have 3 groups:

In our case - 'Cluster' group, which should contain the quorum disk
resource, cluster network name resource, and cluster ip address
resource.

2 Exchange Virtual Server groups, (EVS1 and EVS2 in our case).  Each
contains a disk resource (or 2 - one for data, one for logs), ip address
resource, network name resource, and exchange SA resource.  The rest of
the resources are created by the exchange install.


Regards,

Rob Ellis
Messaging Consultant
Service Delivery Solutions  Programmes
IBM Global Services
DDI: 01256 752845
Mobile: 07974 111867
Fax: 01256 754899
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

I have exactly that setup as you are explaining.  I'm just trying to
figure
out when I'm in Cluster Admin that when I go to the servers listed in
there
at the bottom.  It has listed under each server:  Active Groups, Active
Resources, and Network Interfaces.  I'm sorry if this sounds elmentary
but I
don't know jack about cluster servers (but learning).  But how come
under
these folders all the active groups and resources are only listed under
one
server while both servers are up and running?  Is this the way it should
be
setup if you are running active/active cluster server?  Thanks for the
help.

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Winterton, Robert K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


At a minimum, I would think you would have disk resources for:
1: the Quorum drive
2: Data drive for node 1
3: Log drive for node 1
4: Data drive for node 2
5: Log drive for node 2
You might be able to combine the Data and Log drives for each node into
a
single disk resource since they would failover together.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2K Clustering


All,

I'm trying to install active/active clustering for Exchange 2k.  When
I'm
setting up virtual servers you have to setup the IP address Resource,
Net
Name,and Disk resource.  Now I'm curious, do I have to have 2 disks
setup on
W2K Disk Manager for each server?  I would think that it uses just one
disk
resource since it's Active/Active cluster.  I'm reading the white paper
on
this and it just says to repeat the step for the other node in the
clusterif
you are using Active/Active.  Can someone please shed some light onto
this?

Thanks alot,

John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
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RE: OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an OST That Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)

2001-10-19 Thread David N. Precht

its even worse than PST 2k

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Subject: RE: OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an OST
That Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)


What does this have to do with PST=BAD?



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Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)


http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q306/0/76.ASP



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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

hmm.. yeah.. i think you may be correct, Mike..
I got confused regarding ABV's and the GAL that results from using them.
(More on that in a future thread on ABV's.)

But the short of it is this: in an ABV-less environment (re: no Search perm.
set), the GAL is the culmination of visible objects within all recipient
containers of a Site. I, dullard, retract the "separate container"
suggestion in 'Dumb thought #3". 

(doh.. there goes my coffee.. great..)

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


RE: Dumb thought No 3:

Creating a new container for the CRs, while a good idea in my opinion, will
not prevent the addresses from muddying the GAL. It will make it easier to
separate the two entities out if the users, when addressing their messages,
choose to use the drop down menu next to the Show Messages from in the
address book to select one of the containers instead of the GAL, but the CRs
will most definitely show in the GAL without ABVs.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if you do
some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.

Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k names instead?

Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. Sync OL2k. Take
OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold breath #1). Sync
OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..

Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate users. And you
are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both the technical and
political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's into your dir
without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
create a new container and import the CR's into there.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today because once our GAL
is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately create address
book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views will involve
cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that process takes
time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 contact records into
a Public Folder without hanging up the client.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder contacts list?

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public folders that is
used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 60,000 records.
Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to use to update
the records in the folder.

 Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public Folders.  If I
import into a local folder, then move the folder into the Public Folders,
all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an Outlook Address
folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local folder, then
copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs up with such a
large list of records.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Mike Morrison

Blame it on your cold medication, Tim [1]. Even if you aren't taking any!

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.

[1] Check the archives-- I had to do this a couple of weeks back. I _really_
was taking medication at the time, but I reserve the right to use the excuse
in the future!

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


hmm.. yeah.. i think you may be correct, Mike..
I got confused regarding ABV's and the GAL that results from using them.
(More on that in a future thread on ABV's.)

But the short of it is this: in an ABV-less environment (re: no Search perm.
set), the GAL is the culmination of visible objects within all recipient
containers of a Site. I, dullard, retract the "separate container"
suggestion in 'Dumb thought #3". 

(doh.. there goes my coffee.. great..)

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


RE: Dumb thought No 3:

Creating a new container for the CRs, while a good idea in my opinion, will
not prevent the addresses from muddying the GAL. It will make it easier to
separate the two entities out if the users, when addressing their messages,
choose to use the drop down menu next to the Show Messages from in the
address book to select one of the containers instead of the GAL, but the CRs
will most definitely show in the GAL without ABVs.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if you do
some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.

Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k names instead?

Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. Sync OL2k. Take
OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold breath #1). Sync
OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..

Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate users. And you
are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both the technical and
political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's into your dir
without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
create a new container and import the CR's into there.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today because once our GAL
is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately create address
book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views will involve
cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that process takes
time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 contact records into
a Public Folder without hanging up the client.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder contacts list?

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public folders that is
used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 60,000 records.
Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to use to update
the records in the folder.

 Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public Folders.  If I
import into a local folder, then move the folder into the Public Folders,
all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an Outlook Address
folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local folder, then
copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs up with such a
large list of records.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

I love skiing in Vermont.
If I kiss up to you, can I sleep at your place so I have a cheap place to
stay near Mad River Glen?



-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


RE: Dumb thought No 3:

Creating a new container for the CRs, while a good idea in my opinion, will
not prevent the addresses from muddying the GAL. It will make it easier to
separate the two entities out if the users, when addressing their messages,
choose to use the drop down menu next to the Show Messages from in the
address book to select one of the containers instead of the GAL, but the CRs
will most definitely show in the GAL without ABVs.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if you do
some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.

Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k names instead?

Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. Sync OL2k. Take
OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold breath #1). Sync
OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..

Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate users. And you
are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both the technical and
political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's into your dir
without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
create a new container and import the CR's into there.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today because once our GAL
is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately create address
book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views will involve
cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that process takes
time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 contact records into
a Public Folder without hanging up the client.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder contacts list?

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public folders that is
used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 60,000 records.
Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to use to update
the records in the folder.

 Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public Folders.  If I
import into a local folder, then move the folder into the Public Folders,
all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an Outlook Address
folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local folder, then
copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs up with such a
large list of records.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Darcy Adams

All tests successful
Outage Saturday next week
New domain ahead

-Original Message-
From: Javier Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


Installing SSS PPP
and praying for no stops
for not loose week end
(glup)


-Mensaje original-
De: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2001 14:39
Para: Exchange Discussions
Asunto: Haiku Friday


Another week ends
with no stops in the EV.
Doing something right.

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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Mike Morrison

Best I can do for you (maybe) is a free tour of our Waterbury plant. I live
almost 2 hours from Mad River Glen, so I wouldn't say you'd be very near to
it.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


I love skiing in Vermont.
If I kiss up to you, can I sleep at your place so I have a cheap place to
stay near Mad River Glen?



-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


RE: Dumb thought No 3:

Creating a new container for the CRs, while a good idea in my opinion, will
not prevent the addresses from muddying the GAL. It will make it easier to
separate the two entities out if the users, when addressing their messages,
choose to use the drop down menu next to the Show Messages from in the
address book to select one of the containers instead of the GAL, but the CRs
will most definitely show in the GAL without ABVs.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if you do
some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.

Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k names instead?

Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. Sync OL2k. Take
OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold breath #1). Sync
OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..

Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate users. And you
are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both the technical and
political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's into your dir
without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
create a new container and import the CR's into there.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today because once our GAL
is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately create address
book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views will involve
cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that process takes
time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 contact records into
a Public Folder without hanging up the client.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder contacts list?

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public folders that is
used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 60,000 records.
Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to use to update
the records in the folder.

 Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public Folders.  If I
import into a local folder, then move the folder into the Public Folders,
all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an Outlook Address
folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local folder, then
copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs up with such a
large list of records.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

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RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes

2001-10-19 Thread Busby, Jacob

Rats! I would've gotten away with it, if it wasn't for those pesky
goddesses.

 -Original Message-
 From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 October 2001 14:25
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes
 
 
 You don't, at least not the last part - the goddesses of the 
 inner circle don't allow it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:28 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes
 
 
 Wow! I'm a member of the of circle? When do I get to laugh 
 manically, twirl
 my moustache imperiously and tie young maidens to the railroad tracks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:30 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes
 
 
 Minutes of last meeting and date of next meeting attached.
 
 
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RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes

2001-10-19 Thread John Matteson

Is there such a thing as a young maiden anymore? I thought they were
extinct.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha


-Original Message-
From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


Wow! I'm a member of the of circle? When do I get to laugh manically, twirl
my moustache imperiously and tie young maidens to the railroad tracks.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


Minutes of last meeting and date of next meeting attached.


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RE: Opinion on Backups

2001-10-19 Thread Craig Manske

To end the debate, DMR is useless for be because I run Exchange 5.5.

-cm

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


So can CommVault and a few others out there...  That's still not to say it's
a good idea and as William mentioned, E2K offers Deleted Mailbox Retention
as well.  So...  What's the point?

-Original Message-
From: Fred W. Macondray Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


NetBackup DataCenter can.. it's a Class thing.  I'm working that out right
now...

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


Nope.  Why would you want to?  Deleted Items Retention works very nicely.

D

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From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


Is there a way to make NTBACKUP restore a single mailbox?  Not flaming,
genuinely interested in knowing.

TIA.

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
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-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups

I like NT Backup, Backup Exec (Occasionally, the other night I didn't like
it at all), CommVault Galaxy, Ultrabac, LiveVault, and there might be a few
others.  Off of the top of my head, those products are very good.

ArcCrap is exactly that...  Unreliable, no support, a pain in the arse,
breaks more than it fixes...  Shall I go on?

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


It seems like there's NO backup software anybody likes. Everytime someone
mentions a brand, they get toasted. We use ArcServe (foisted on me by
others). I'm not real wild about it, but I don't hate it either. But then I
haven't had to do a major recovery with it yet. Their support is pretty
poor, but so far the software has done the job for us (like I said, no
disaster recoveries yet). I don't know that I'd go so far as to recommend
it, but I wouldn't totally dis it either.

Rob

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From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


Do you always bet on the losing horse?

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Govindaraj Rangan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 18 October 2001 13:39
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 I would bet on ArcServe.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Manske
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:15 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 I've been looking at Backup software for out NT/2000/Exchange servers. 
 Right now we run Veritas Backup Exec but because of the poor support 
 (Pay support sucks) and horriable Customer Service (They didn't have 
 any information on file about my company or purchases).  I've decided 
 to choose another brand of tape software.  What I'd like to know is 
 what you're opinion is on the best software (Other then BE) to use 
 with NT/2000 including Exchange support.
 
 Thanks
 --
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 IS Manager
 Stanek Tool www.stanektool.com
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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Tom Meunier

Um... I think Waterbury, VT, is about 10 miles outside of
Barre/Montpelier.  That's a haul from New Haven, even if I-91 is clear.

 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:28 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 I am out of New Haven so we can meet up in Waterbury
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 Best I can do for you (maybe) is a free tour of our Waterbury 
 plant. I live
 almost 2 hours from Mad River Glen, so I wouldn't say you'd 
 be very near to
 it.
 
 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.

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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Siegfried Weber

 Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if
you
 do
 some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.

No client required if going the programmatic way. You can run this code
on the Exchange Server machine or any other machine that has the
Excahnge admin console install without any client software involved.

Siegfried /

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:25 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if
you
 do
 some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.
 
 Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
 considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k names
instead?
 
 Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
 Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. Sync OL2k.
Take
 OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold breath
#1).
 Sync
 OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..
 
 Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate users.
And
 you
 are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both the
technical
 and
 political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's into your
dir
 without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
 presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
 create a new container and import the CR's into there.
 
 Tim.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
 Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today because once
our
 GAL
 is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately create
address
 book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views will
involve
 cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that process
takes
 time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 contact records
 into
 a Public Folder without hanging up the client.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder contacts
list?
 
 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public folders that
is
 used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 60,000
 records.
 Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to use to
update
 the records in the folder.
 
  Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public Folders.
If
 I
 import into a local folder, then move the folder into the Public
Folders,
 all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an Outlook
 Address
 folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local folder,
then
 copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs up with
such
 a
 large list of records.
 
 ANY SUGGESTIONS?
 
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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread David N. Precht

isnt there a Waterbury CT ?

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 09:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Um... I think Waterbury, VT, is about 10 miles outside of
Barre/Montpelier.  That's a haul from New Haven, even if I-91 is clear.

 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:28 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


 I am out of New Haven so we can meet up in Waterbury

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


 Best I can do for you (maybe) is a free tour of our Waterbury
 plant. I live
 almost 2 hours from Mad River Glen, so I wouldn't say you'd
 be very near to
 it.

 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.

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RE: OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an OST That Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, an OST is really just a PST without most of the disadvantages... But I
think he might have either been drawing attention to the suggestion in the
article of moving some data into PST files or the 'new' limitation of OST
file size. The latter will be irrelevant in short order if the latest
information regarding 33TB limits in future releases is to be believed.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You 
 Synchronize an OST That Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)
 
 
 What does this have to do with PST=BAD?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David N Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OL2002: Error Message Occurs When You Synchronize an 
 OST That Is 1.82 GB in Size (PST = BAD)
 
 
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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

I can't. But can I ask why you're considering doing so?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an Exchange 
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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Oh my, 1018.
Helpdesk calls; the day is young.
Time to prove my worth.


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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

Hardware problems son
Call your vendor now and cry,
Latest BIOS please!


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 Subject: RE: Haiku Friday
 
 
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 Time to prove my worth.

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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Tom Meunier

One with a Ben  Jerry's plant in it that Mike can give a tour of?  Not
that I know of.

 -Original Message-
 From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:52 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 isnt there a Waterbury CT ?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Meunier
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 09:47
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 Um... I think Waterbury, VT, is about 10 miles outside of
 Barre/Montpelier.  That's a haul from New Haven, even if I-91 
 is clear.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:28 AM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
  Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
  I am out of New Haven so we can meet up in Waterbury
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:26 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
  Best I can do for you (maybe) is a free tour of our Waterbury
  plant. I live
  almost 2 hours from Mad River Glen, so I wouldn't say you'd
  be very near to
  it.
 
  Mike Morrison
  NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
  Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
 
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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Bowles, John L.

Because I'm about to attempt to add this Exch2K server to an Exchan 5.5 org
so I can move all my users to the Exch2k box and upgrade my entire
organzation after that.  Basically trying to pull off the mailbox swing
method.  And having the ADC will help populate the Exchange 5.5 server info
into Exchange 2k.  So I can see the servers in there respective
adminstrative groups.

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


I can't. But can I ask why you're considering doing so?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an Exchange 
 cluster server?  

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RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.

2001-10-19 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE)

Well I believe I'm finally starting to understand.  Even if we opened up the
ports as described in FAQ 3.24 and assigned static ports on the Exchange
server for the DS and IS, it would also be necessary to open the UDP ports
1024-65535 up for clients to get notified of new mail.

Don't get me wrong.  I'm still leaning toward requiring the VPN client, but
I need to insure I have all the information for the networking/security
group.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


You can set some of the ports as static (IS, DS, MTA, etc.,) but you cannot
assign a static port to UDP Push Notification.  If ports1024 are blocked,
your Outlook clients might be able to send and receive mail just fine, but
the blocked Push will prevent the view from refreshing.  This results in the
APPEARANCE that mail is not coming in until you change folders, mail not
leaving the outbox, etc.,  

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Maybe I didn't understand the post.  I believe you can especially if your
behind a firewall.  Refer to Q148732.

XADM: Setting TCP/IP Port Numbers for Internet Firewalls [Q148732]


-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


You cannot make that static.  That range that you listed is for the UDP Push
Notification from the Exchange server to the client.  It is a randomly
selected (by the client) UDP port above 1024.  The Exchange server uses this
to send the new mail notification (refresh command) to the client.

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Went through TechNet and couldn't find any reference to the actual range.
Found the articles on how to make it static, but no range.  Also posted that
question on the list asking about the range and I don't recall anyone
stating what it was.  The MS tech I talked to had to place me on hold 3
times to get the answer. -Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


You could have searched the MSKB and figured that out.  There's plenty of
documentation out there...

-Original Message-
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Just a note to everyone.  We called Microsoft and inquired what the range
for the two random ports were that Exchange allocates to the client once it
connects to a socket.  According to Microsoft the range is from 1,024 to
64,000.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


No security consultant I know is going to open holes in the network from the
DMZ to the Internal network.  Being proficient in both Exchange and
Security, I feel sorry for your clients if you suggest the model you propose
below to them.

I think you ought to study up on security some more...

If you open holes from the DMZ to the internal LAN, why in the hell do you
have a DMZ.  You've made the DMZ virtually pointless.  Or did your teacher
or book you read say something different.  If it were a book that told you
to configure things this way, please send me the ISBN number, I really wanna
read that book.  Apparently, I've been taking the wrong approach for years
now.

I happen to know of a company who has the same model you describe.  After I
showed them the security issues, they were desiring a change for the better
immediately.

-Original Message-
From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


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Hash: SHA1

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 9:55 PM
 
 Don't bother.  Use a proxy server and publish OWA.  Or require SSL and 
 open port 443.  Or implement a VPN.  I still think putting an Exchange 
 front-end server in a DMZ is kind of silly.  Not as silly with 
 Exchange 2000 as with
 Exchange 5.5, but silly nonetheless.

Ed, 

I don't find this silly at all. Let me try to clarify:

Scenario A:

You have an Internet connection coming to a firewall. Behind the firewall in
your internal network you have an Exchange server. You also have a 

RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

I understand what the ADC does. g But I was wondering why the desire to
place that ADC on an Exchange 2000 cluster server, rather than say a desktop
machine with some extra RAM.

I thought there I read something about not being able to add a clustered E2K
server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 5.5 site... Is the SRS a
clusterable service?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Because I'm about to attempt to add this Exch2K server to an 
 Exchan 5.5 org so I can move all my users to the Exch2k box 
 and upgrade my entire organzation after that.  Basically 
 trying to pull off the mailbox swing method.  And having the 
 ADC will help populate the Exchange 5.5 server info into 
 Exchange 2k.  So I can see the servers in there respective 
 adminstrative groups.
 
  
 John Bowles
 Exchange Administrator
 Enterprise Support  Engineering
 Celera Genomics
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 I can't. But can I ask why you're considering doing so?
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:54 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an Exchange
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RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes

2001-10-19 Thread Barry Patterson

You were snoring too loud to hear it said...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Mynhier
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


I don't remember THAT being said in the last meeting!

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes


Minutes of last meeting and date of next meeting attached.

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RE: Opinion on Backups

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

To step back in time and end the debate before it even started, can I point
out the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method [tm] in the FAQ?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 To end the debate, DMR is useless for be because I run Exchange 5.5.
 
 -cm
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 So can CommVault and a few others out there...  That's still 
 not to say it's a good idea and as William mentioned, E2K 
 offers Deleted Mailbox Retention as well.  So...  What's the point?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Fred W. Macondray Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:06 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 NetBackup DataCenter can.. it's a Class thing.  I'm working 
 that out right now...
 
 Fred
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 Nope.  Why would you want to?  Deleted Items Retention works 
 very nicely.
 
 D
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 Is there a way to make NTBACKUP restore a single mailbox?  
 Not flaming, genuinely interested in knowing.
 
 TIA.
 
 Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 I like NT Backup, Backup Exec (Occasionally, the other night 
 I didn't like it at all), CommVault Galaxy, Ultrabac, 
 LiveVault, and there might be a few others.  Off of the top 
 of my head, those products are very good.
 
 ArcCrap is exactly that...  Unreliable, no support, a pain in 
 the arse, breaks more than it fixes...  Shall I go on?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 It seems like there's NO backup software anybody likes. 
 Everytime someone mentions a brand, they get toasted. We use 
 ArcServe (foisted on me by others). I'm not real wild about 
 it, but I don't hate it either. But then I haven't had to do 
 a major recovery with it yet. Their support is pretty poor, 
 but so far the software has done the job for us (like I said, 
 no disaster recoveries yet). I don't know that I'd go so far 
 as to recommend it, but I wouldn't totally dis it either.
 
 Rob
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 Do you always bet on the losing horse?
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Govindaraj Rangan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 18 October 2001 13:39
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
  
  
  I would bet on ArcServe.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 Craig Manske
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:15 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Opinion on Backups
  
  
  I've been looking at Backup software for out 
 NT/2000/Exchange servers.
  Right now we run Veritas Backup Exec but because of the 
 poor support 
  (Pay support sucks) and horriable Customer Service (They 
 didn't have 
  any information on file about my company or purchases).  
 I've decided 
  to choose another brand of tape software.  What I'd like to know is 
  what you're opinion is on the best software (Other then BE) to use 
  with NT/2000 including Exchange support.
  
  Thanks
  --
  Craig Manske [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  IS Manager
  Stanek Tool www.stanektool.com
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RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

And even after opening those ports it's entirely possible you'd experience a
greater number of dropped UDP new mail notifications with that connection
method than you would with VPN (at least that's been my experience).

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:11 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Well I believe I'm finally starting to understand.  Even if 
 we opened up the ports as described in FAQ 3.24 and assigned 
 static ports on the Exchange server for the DS and IS, it 
 would also be necessary to open the UDP ports 1024-65535 up 
 for clients to get notified of new mail.
 
 Don't get me wrong.  I'm still leaning toward requiring the 
 VPN client, but I need to insure I have all the information 
 for the networking/security group.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:06 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 You can set some of the ports as static (IS, DS, MTA, etc.,) 
 but you cannot assign a static port to UDP Push Notification. 
  If ports1024 are blocked, your Outlook clients might be 
 able to send and receive mail just fine, but the blocked Push 
 will prevent the view from refreshing.  This results in the 
 APPEARANCE that mail is not coming in until you change 
 folders, mail not leaving the outbox, etc.,  
 
 Stephen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Maybe I didn't understand the post.  I believe you can 
 especially if your behind a firewall.  Refer to Q148732.
 
 XADM: Setting TCP/IP Port Numbers for Internet Firewalls [Q148732]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 You cannot make that static.  That range that you listed is 
 for the UDP Push Notification from the Exchange server to the 
 client.  It is a randomly selected (by the client) UDP port 
 above 1024.  The Exchange server uses this to send the new 
 mail notification (refresh command) to the client.
 
 Stephen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Went through TechNet and couldn't find any reference to the 
 actual range. Found the articles on how to make it static, 
 but no range.  Also posted that question on the list asking 
 about the range and I don't recall anyone stating what it 
 was.  The MS tech I talked to had to place me on hold 3 times 
 to get the answer. -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:56 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 You could have searched the MSKB and figured that out.  
 There's plenty of documentation out there...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Just a note to everyone.  We called Microsoft and inquired 
 what the range for the two random ports were that Exchange 
 allocates to the client once it connects to a socket.  
 According to Microsoft the range is from 1,024 to 64,000.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 No security consultant I know is going to open holes in the 
 network from the DMZ to the Internal network.  Being 
 proficient in both Exchange and Security, I feel sorry for 
 your clients if you suggest the model you propose below to them.
 
 I think you ought to study up on security some more...
 
 If you open holes from the DMZ to the internal LAN, why in 
 the hell do you have a DMZ.  You've made the DMZ virtually 
 pointless.  Or did your teacher or book you read say 
 something different.  If it were a book that told you to 
 configure things this way, please send me the ISBN number, I 
 really wanna read that book.  Apparently, I've been taking 
 the wrong approach for years now.
 
 I happen to know of a company who has the same model you 
 describe.  After I showed them the security issues, they were 
 desiring a change for the better immediately.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: 

RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Bowles, John L.

I thought I read something about not being able to install a cluster server
first in an Exchange 5.5 site.  But I was in a discussion with a friend and
they suggested that you could install it in the site first no problem.  But
when I look into my administrative group I don't see any servers from
Exchange 5.5 in there.  Am I screwed here?  Or can this be resolved?

Thanks,

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


I understand what the ADC does. g But I was wondering why the desire to
place that ADC on an Exchange 2000 cluster server, rather than say a desktop
machine with some extra RAM.

I thought there I read something about not being able to add a clustered E2K
server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 5.5 site... Is the SRS a
clusterable service?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Because I'm about to attempt to add this Exch2K server to an 
 Exchan 5.5 org so I can move all my users to the Exch2k box 
 and upgrade my entire organzation after that.  Basically 
 trying to pull off the mailbox swing method.  And having the 
 ADC will help populate the Exchange 5.5 server info into 
 Exchange 2k.  So I can see the servers in there respective 
 adminstrative groups.
 
  
 John Bowles
 Exchange Administrator
 Enterprise Support  Engineering
 Celera Genomics
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 I can't. But can I ask why you're considering doing so?
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:54 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an Exchange
  cluster server?  
 
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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

Q281290 actually.

 I thought there I read something about not being able to add 
 a clustered E2K server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 
 5.5 site... Is the SRS a clusterable service?

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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Kumanov, Dr. Nikolay

Q292757 says no

Dr. Nikolay Kumanov

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47, Tsarigradsko chaussee, Sofia 1504, Bulgaria
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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:00 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange
Conversation: Exchange 2K Clustering
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


I understand what the ADC does. g But I was wondering why the desire
to
place that ADC on an Exchange 2000 cluster server, rather than say a
desktop
machine with some extra RAM.

I thought there I read something about not being able to add a clustered
E2K
server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 5.5 site... Is the SRS a
clusterable service?

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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, you're screwed. The question is how badly. And the answer is I'm not
sure... Did you join an existing Exchange org on install? If so, I would
have expected the install to fail if your ADC wasn't already running (which
based on the original question it's not clear that it is/was).

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 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 I thought I read something about not being able to install a 
 cluster server first in an Exchange 5.5 site.  But I was in a 
 discussion with a friend and they suggested that you could 
 install it in the site first no problem.  But when I look 
 into my administrative group I don't see any servers from 
 Exchange 5.5 in there.  Am I screwed here?  Or can this be resolved?
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 John Bowles
 Exchange Administrator
 Enterprise Support  Engineering
 Celera Genomics
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 I understand what the ADC does. g But I was wondering why 
 the desire to place that ADC on an Exchange 2000 cluster 
 server, rather than say a desktop machine with some extra RAM.
 
 I thought there I read something about not being able to add 
 a clustered E2K server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 
 5.5 site... Is the SRS a clusterable service?
 
 Chris
 -- 
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:04 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  Because I'm about to attempt to add this Exch2K server to an
  Exchan 5.5 org so I can move all my users to the Exch2k box 
  and upgrade my entire organzation after that.  Basically 
  trying to pull off the mailbox swing method.  And having the 
  ADC will help populate the Exchange 5.5 server info into 
  Exchange 2k.  So I can see the servers in there respective 
  adminstrative groups.
  
   
  John Bowles
  Exchange Administrator
  Enterprise Support  Engineering
  Celera Genomics
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:51 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  I can't. But can I ask why you're considering doing so?
  
  Chris
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   -Original Message-
   From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:54 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
   
   
   Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an 
 Exchange cluster 
   server?
  
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RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.

2001-10-19 Thread Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE)

Thanks!  I think I now have the information I need to meet with the security
and networking group.  This should be a fun meeting!  I appreciate all the
information that was posted.  Guess I need to review the FAQ's again to see
if there is anything else I've missed.  

Once again thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


And even after opening those ports it's entirely possible you'd experience a
greater number of dropped UDP new mail notifications with that connection
method than you would with VPN (at least that's been my experience).

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:11 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Well I believe I'm finally starting to understand.  Even if 
 we opened up the ports as described in FAQ 3.24 and assigned 
 static ports on the Exchange server for the DS and IS, it 
 would also be necessary to open the UDP ports 1024-65535 up 
 for clients to get notified of new mail.
 
 Don't get me wrong.  I'm still leaning toward requiring the 
 VPN client, but I need to insure I have all the information 
 for the networking/security group.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:06 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 You can set some of the ports as static (IS, DS, MTA, etc.,) 
 but you cannot assign a static port to UDP Push Notification. 
  If ports1024 are blocked, your Outlook clients might be 
 able to send and receive mail just fine, but the blocked Push 
 will prevent the view from refreshing.  This results in the 
 APPEARANCE that mail is not coming in until you change 
 folders, mail not leaving the outbox, etc.,  
 
 Stephen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:24 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Maybe I didn't understand the post.  I believe you can 
 especially if your behind a firewall.  Refer to Q148732.
 
 XADM: Setting TCP/IP Port Numbers for Internet Firewalls [Q148732]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 You cannot make that static.  That range that you listed is 
 for the UDP Push Notification from the Exchange server to the 
 client.  It is a randomly selected (by the client) UDP port 
 above 1024.  The Exchange server uses this to send the new 
 mail notification (refresh command) to the client.
 
 Stephen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Went through TechNet and couldn't find any reference to the 
 actual range. Found the articles on how to make it static, 
 but no range.  Also posted that question on the list asking 
 about the range and I don't recall anyone stating what it 
 was.  The MS tech I talked to had to place me on hold 3 times 
 to get the answer. -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:56 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 You could have searched the MSKB and figured that out.  
 There's plenty of documentation out there...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 Just a note to everyone.  We called Microsoft and inquired 
 what the range for the two random ports were that Exchange 
 allocates to the client once it connects to a socket.  
 According to Microsoft the range is from 1,024 to 64,000.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.
 
 
 No security consultant I know is going to open holes in the 
 network from the DMZ to the Internal network.  Being 
 proficient in both Exchange and Security, I feel sorry for 
 your clients if you suggest the model you propose below to them.
 
 I think you ought to study up on security some more...
 
 If you open holes from the DMZ to the internal LAN, why in 
 the hell do you have a DMZ.  You've made the DMZ virtually 
 pointless.  Or did your teacher or book you read say 
 something different.  If it were a book that told you to 
 configure things 

RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue

2001-10-19 Thread David N. Precht

was that aol7 mode ?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 00:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


aol mode

Me too!

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I'm trying to quit smoking

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I would say me too, but then I would be breaking law number 3.4 of the
swinc bible.  I have run into this issue more than 5 times, obviously. Also,
I love the tool.  Manager is impressed when I use it and manage to
*not* crash the server.  Note to self and others: it is a dangerous tool.

your craving of nicotine was brought on by the repetition of click close
 click close  click close...you sicko.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Jennifer, that was awesome. A lot of digging down there. I felt like I
needed a cigarette after that.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


if you cannot find the old exchange client to rename the inbox, use
mdbvu32.exe which is in the SERVER\SUPPORT\UTILS\I386 on the 5.5 cd. logon
to user's mailbox open mdbvu32.exe

hit ok  go to mdb  open message store  highlight the users mailbox  hit
open  go to mdb  open root folder  double click top of information store
 double click renamed inbox  hit call function  click set properties
 
highlight PR_Display_Name  type Inbox in the Prop data box  click add
 click call  click close  click close  click close  click close 
click close  hit X  click ok  click ok

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Well, the TechNet article said it was a problem in O2K, and I quote:

OL2000: Inbox May Be Renamed When Deleting an Appointment

The user remembers his secretary being active in his calendar when this
happens, so I'm thinking that's probably it.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 14:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I'd be very curious as to how that happened.  There isn't an option in
O2K to rename the inbox.

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Hi Gang!

   We have a user whose Inbox got renamed.  (Exchange 5.5,
sp4.  NT 4
sp 6a, user Outlook 2000).

   I found TechNet article Q249750 which seemed to be a
very good fit
for our situation.  The article said to use exchng32.exe to rename the
mailbox.  I had to look around the shop, but i did find a copy of that
old exchange client.  Problem is, it won't run, at least not on my
win2000 desktop.  Get an error that reads:

   'The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.'
 Same on an
NT4 box.  Do i have a bad copy of exchng32.exe?  (mine is time stamped
8/9/96.  Where can i get a good one?

   Or do i have to run this on a win98 box or something?
It looks like
it runs in a dos window

   Or does somebody know another way to rename an inbox back to
INBOX?

   Thanks, Lynne

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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Bowles, John L.

Well I'm not totally screwed because I'm doing this on a test lab. :)  I
joined it on intiail install but I already had ADC on it the server.  I
wanted to test to see if I needed to add another server first before adding
the cluster server.  Which turns I do.  Now, when I install the first
Exchange 2k box into Exchange 5.5 org.  And then bring in the cluster, am I
going to see my site servers in 5.5 in my Administrative group w/my new
Exchange 2k servers?  I left out that I'm going to run ADC on the first
server installed into my 5.5 site until I complete the upgrade.  It's
basically going to server just the ADC purpose until I get all the mailboxes
onto this cluster server.  Then in turn I will remove it from the AG.  

  
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


Well, you're screwed. The question is how badly. And the answer is I'm not
sure... Did you join an existing Exchange org on install? If so, I would
have expected the install to fail if your ADC wasn't already running (which
based on the original question it's not clear that it is/was).

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:10 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 I thought I read something about not being able to install a 
 cluster server first in an Exchange 5.5 site.  But I was in a 
 discussion with a friend and they suggested that you could 
 install it in the site first no problem.  But when I look 
 into my administrative group I don't see any servers from 
 Exchange 5.5 in there.  Am I screwed here?  Or can this be resolved?
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 John Bowles
 Exchange Administrator
 Enterprise Support  Engineering
 Celera Genomics
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 I understand what the ADC does. g But I was wondering why 
 the desire to place that ADC on an Exchange 2000 cluster 
 server, rather than say a desktop machine with some extra RAM.
 
 I thought there I read something about not being able to add 
 a clustered E2K server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 
 5.5 site... Is the SRS a clusterable service?
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:04 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  Because I'm about to attempt to add this Exch2K server to an
  Exchan 5.5 org so I can move all my users to the Exch2k box 
  and upgrade my entire organzation after that.  Basically 
  trying to pull off the mailbox swing method.  And having the 
  ADC will help populate the Exchange 5.5 server info into 
  Exchange 2k.  So I can see the servers in there respective 
  adminstrative groups.
  
   
  John Bowles
  Exchange Administrator
  Enterprise Support  Engineering
  Celera Genomics
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:51 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  I can't. But can I ask why you're considering doing so?
  
  Chris
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   -Original Message-
   From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:54 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
   
   
   Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an 
 Exchange cluster 
   server?
  
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RE: Opinion on Backups

2001-10-19 Thread Don Ely

Well you didn't mention that now did you.  ;o)  Doesn't matter anyway, BLB's
are for wussies!

-Original Message-
From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


To end the debate, DMR is useless for be because I run Exchange 5.5.

-cm

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


So can CommVault and a few others out there...  That's still not to say it's
a good idea and as William mentioned, E2K offers Deleted Mailbox Retention
as well.  So...  What's the point?

-Original Message-
From: Fred W. Macondray Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


NetBackup DataCenter can.. it's a Class thing.  I'm working that out right
now...

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


Nope.  Why would you want to?  Deleted Items Retention works very nicely.

D

-Original Message-
From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


Is there a way to make NTBACKUP restore a single mailbox?  Not flaming,
genuinely interested in knowing.

TIA.

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups

I like NT Backup, Backup Exec (Occasionally, the other night I didn't like
it at all), CommVault Galaxy, Ultrabac, LiveVault, and there might be a few
others.  Off of the top of my head, those products are very good.

ArcCrap is exactly that...  Unreliable, no support, a pain in the arse,
breaks more than it fixes...  Shall I go on?

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


It seems like there's NO backup software anybody likes. Everytime someone
mentions a brand, they get toasted. We use ArcServe (foisted on me by
others). I'm not real wild about it, but I don't hate it either. But then I
haven't had to do a major recovery with it yet. Their support is pretty
poor, but so far the software has done the job for us (like I said, no
disaster recoveries yet). I don't know that I'd go so far as to recommend
it, but I wouldn't totally dis it either.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups


Do you always bet on the losing horse?

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Govindaraj Rangan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 18 October 2001 13:39
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 I would bet on ArcServe.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig Manske
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:15 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Opinion on Backups
 
 
 I've been looking at Backup software for out NT/2000/Exchange servers.
 Right now we run Veritas Backup Exec but because of the poor support 
 (Pay support sucks) and horriable Customer Service (They didn't have 
 any information on file about my company or purchases).  I've decided 
 to choose another brand of tape software.  What I'd like to know is 
 what you're opinion is on the best software (Other then BE) to use 
 with NT/2000 including Exchange support.
 
 Thanks
 --
 Craig Manske [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 IS Manager
 Stanek Tool www.stanektool.com
 New Berlin, WI
 
 
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RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue

2001-10-19 Thread Don Ely

No, actually it was lookIhaveanAOLfrisbeemode

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


was that aol7 mode ?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 00:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


aol mode

Me too!

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I'm trying to quit smoking

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I would say me too, but then I would be breaking law number 3.4 of the
swinc bible.  I have run into this issue more than 5 times, obviously. Also,
I love the tool.  Manager is impressed when I use it and manage to
*not* crash the server.  Note to self and others: it is a dangerous tool.

your craving of nicotine was brought on by the repetition of click close
 click close  click close...you sicko.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Jennifer, that was awesome. A lot of digging down there. I felt like I
needed a cigarette after that.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


if you cannot find the old exchange client to rename the inbox, use
mdbvu32.exe which is in the SERVER\SUPPORT\UTILS\I386 on the 5.5 cd. logon
to user's mailbox open mdbvu32.exe

hit ok  go to mdb  open message store  highlight the users mailbox  hit
open  go to mdb  open root folder  double click top of information store
 double click renamed inbox  hit call function  click set properties
 
highlight PR_Display_Name  type Inbox in the Prop data box  click add
 click call  click close  click close  click close  click close 
click close  hit X  click ok  click ok

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Well, the TechNet article said it was a problem in O2K, and I quote:

OL2000: Inbox May Be Renamed When Deleting an Appointment

The user remembers his secretary being active in his calendar when this
happens, so I'm thinking that's probably it.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 14:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


I'd be very curious as to how that happened.  There isn't an option in 
O2K to rename the inbox.

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Inbox renamed, exchng32.exe issue


Hi Gang!

   We have a user whose Inbox got renamed.  (Exchange 5.5,
sp4.  NT 4
sp 6a, user Outlook 2000).

   I found TechNet article Q249750 which seemed to be a
very good fit
for our situation.  The article said to use exchng32.exe to rename the 
mailbox.  I had to look around the shop, but i did find a copy of that 
old exchange client.  Problem is, it won't run, at least not on my 
win2000 desktop.  Get an error that reads:

   'The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction.'
 Same on an
NT4 box.  Do i have a bad copy of exchng32.exe?  (mine is time stamped 
8/9/96.  Where can i get a good one?

   Or do i have to run this on a win98 box or something?
It looks like
it runs in a dos window

   Or does somebody know another way to rename an inbox back to
INBOX?

   Thanks, Lynne

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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

You'll see them in your administrative groups, but for the most part you'll
manage each server using it's respective tools (5.5 servers managed with 5.5
admin and E2K managed with esm, aduc, adsiedit, iis snapins, etc.)

In mixed mode an Exchange 5.5 site corresponds exactly to a single AG and RG
in E2K and all servers which are a member will be visible. 

Chris
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MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Well I'm not totally screwed because I'm doing this on a test 
 lab. :)  I joined it on intiail install but I already had ADC 
 on it the server.  I wanted to test to see if I needed to add 
 another server first before adding the cluster server.  Which 
 turns I do.  Now, when I install the first Exchange 2k box 
 into Exchange 5.5 org.  And then bring in the cluster, am I 
 going to see my site servers in 5.5 in my Administrative 
 group w/my new Exchange 2k servers?  I left out that I'm 
 going to run ADC on the first server installed into my 5.5 
 site until I complete the upgrade.  It's basically going to 
 server just the ADC purpose until I get all the mailboxes 
 onto this cluster server.  Then in turn I will remove it from 
 the AG.  
 
   
 John Bowles
 Exchange Administrator
 Enterprise Support  Engineering
 Celera Genomics
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:09 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Well, you're screwed. The question is how badly. And the 
 answer is I'm not sure... Did you join an existing Exchange 
 org on install? If so, I would have expected the install to 
 fail if your ADC wasn't already running (which based on the 
 original question it's not clear that it is/was).
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:10 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  I thought I read something about not being able to install a
  cluster server first in an Exchange 5.5 site.  But I was in a 
  discussion with a friend and they suggested that you could 
  install it in the site first no problem.  But when I look 
  into my administrative group I don't see any servers from 
  Exchange 5.5 in there.  Am I screwed here?  Or can this be resolved?
  
  Thanks,
  
   
  John Bowles
  Exchange Administrator
  Enterprise Support  Engineering
  Celera Genomics
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:00 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  I understand what the ADC does. g But I was wondering why
  the desire to place that ADC on an Exchange 2000 cluster 
  server, rather than say a desktop machine with some extra RAM.
  
  I thought there I read something about not being able to add
  a clustered E2K server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 
  5.5 site... Is the SRS a clusterable service?
  
  Chris
  --
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  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:04 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
   
   
   Because I'm about to attempt to add this Exch2K server to 
 an Exchan 
   5.5 org so I can move all my users to the Exch2k box and 
 upgrade my 
   entire organzation after that.  Basically trying to pull off the 
   mailbox swing method.  And having the ADC will help populate the 
   Exchange 5.5 server info into Exchange 2k.  So I can see 
 the servers 
   in there respective adminstrative groups.
   

   John Bowles
   Exchange Administrator
   Enterprise Support  Engineering
   Celera Genomics
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:51 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
   
   
   I can't. But can I ask why you're considering doing so?
   
   Chris
   --
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   Senior Sales Engineer
   MessageOne
   If you can't measure, you can't manage!
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


Can someone confirm that you cannot run ADC on an
  Exchange cluster
server?
   
   

RE: Re-applying SP4 to MSX 5.5 cluster server

2001-10-19 Thread Hunter, Lori

Cluster-aware.  Humph.  Well, you asked.

You must do the SP on the active side, so what benefit did having a cluster
buy me, or you for that matter.  A long Saturday away from home, that's
what.

Just do the standard things you do for an SP - stop all unnecessary
services, stop perf mons, stop the cluster manager!!

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re-applying SP4 to MSX 5.5 cluster server


I am going to be re-applying MSX Service Pack 4 on an NT 4 (SP 6a) cluster
server with MSX 5.5 SP4.  Why am I doing this?  Because the server is being
upgraded with some hardware and other software (not Exchange related) is
being removed.

I have found Q221393 which says that MS Exchange service packs are cluster
aware.  Seems pretty straight forward to me (a good thing).  However, my
question is in real life:

Are there any gotchas I should be aware of before re-applying SP4 to the
nodes of the cluster?

Regards.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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RE: Exchange 2K Clustering

2001-10-19 Thread Bowles, John L.

So basically I will have all that functionality w/out setting up a CA
w/Exchange 5.5 right off the bat?  Also are there any known problems w/OWA
running on a cluster server? Or any public folder issues?

Thanks,

 
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering


You'll see them in your administrative groups, but for the most part you'll
manage each server using it's respective tools (5.5 servers managed with 5.5
admin and E2K managed with esm, aduc, adsiedit, iis snapins, etc.)

In mixed mode an Exchange 5.5 site corresponds exactly to a single AG and RG
in E2K and all servers which are a member will be visible. 

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Well I'm not totally screwed because I'm doing this on a test 
 lab. :)  I joined it on intiail install but I already had ADC 
 on it the server.  I wanted to test to see if I needed to add 
 another server first before adding the cluster server.  Which 
 turns I do.  Now, when I install the first Exchange 2k box 
 into Exchange 5.5 org.  And then bring in the cluster, am I 
 going to see my site servers in 5.5 in my Administrative 
 group w/my new Exchange 2k servers?  I left out that I'm 
 going to run ADC on the first server installed into my 5.5 
 site until I complete the upgrade.  It's basically going to 
 server just the ADC purpose until I get all the mailboxes 
 onto this cluster server.  Then in turn I will remove it from 
 the AG.  
 
   
 John Bowles
 Exchange Administrator
 Enterprise Support  Engineering
 Celera Genomics
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:09 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
 
 
 Well, you're screwed. The question is how badly. And the 
 answer is I'm not sure... Did you join an existing Exchange 
 org on install? If so, I would have expected the install to 
 fail if your ADC wasn't already running (which based on the 
 original question it's not clear that it is/was).
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:10 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  I thought I read something about not being able to install a
  cluster server first in an Exchange 5.5 site.  But I was in a 
  discussion with a friend and they suggested that you could 
  install it in the site first no problem.  But when I look 
  into my administrative group I don't see any servers from 
  Exchange 5.5 in there.  Am I screwed here?  Or can this be resolved?
  
  Thanks,
  
   
  John Bowles
  Exchange Administrator
  Enterprise Support  Engineering
  Celera Genomics
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:00 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
  
  
  I understand what the ADC does. g But I was wondering why
  the desire to place that ADC on an Exchange 2000 cluster 
  server, rather than say a desktop machine with some extra RAM.
  
  I thought there I read something about not being able to add
  a clustered E2K server as the first E2K server in an Exchange 
  5.5 site... Is the SRS a clusterable service?
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:04 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Exchange 2K Clustering
   
   
   Because I'm about to attempt to add this Exch2K server to 
 an Exchan 
   5.5 org so I can move all my users to the Exch2k box and 
 upgrade my 
   entire organzation after that.  Basically trying to pull off the 
   mailbox swing method.  And having the ADC will help populate the 
   Exchange 5.5 server info into Exchange 2k.  So I can see 
 the servers 
   in there respective adminstrative groups.
   

   John Bowles
   Exchange Administrator
   Enterprise Support  Engineering
   Celera Genomics
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:51 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   

One last question about Backups.

2001-10-19 Thread Craig Manske

I've been sort of leaning toward Legato's backup solution because it offers
a single server management console with multi server backups to their local
storage devices.  I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with it
and NT/2000/Exchange?

thanks

--
Craig Manske

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Re: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Jim Utegaard

Proxy Client gone
Exchange now working so grand!
Disney here I come!

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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Bill Lambert

What is haiku
Is it 5 then 7 or
Am I old and dumb

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday

Another week ends
with no stops in the EV.
Doing something right.

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O2K transport stack order not reliable?

2001-10-19 Thread Phillips, Alan

We have a couple of users with O2K installed in CW mode, set to use mailboxes
on our EX5.5SP4 servers and also POP mailboxes on a Unix machine. They want
mail to Internet addresses to go out via the SMTP smarthost set up in the POP
configuration, so they have the Internet Mail transport at the top of the
delivery stack above the Exchange service.

The users *claim* that up to 6 weeks ago it worked as they wanted; but since
then *all* messages go out via the Exchange server.

We've tried on a test system using O2K SP2, and find that about 1 in 4 messages
to Internet addresses don't go via the SMTP transport but use the Exchange
server. The connection to the SMTP server is reliable on a LAN - there's not
enough time for it to be timing out, and testing shows that if O2K gets a
refused connection from the smarthost you get a popup message. So it looks like
the client just doesn't always respect the defined transport stack order.

Has anyone got any ideas what might be going on?

Thanks! 

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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Barry Patterson

It's Five-Seven-Five
Your first line was only four
Go Punish yourself

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Lambert
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


What is haiku
Is it 5 then 7 or
Am I old and dumb

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday

Another week ends
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Doing something right.

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RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes

2001-10-19 Thread Roger Seielstad

There is no inner circle

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:28 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes
 
 
 Wow! I'm a member of the of circle? When do I get to laugh 
 manically, twirl
 my moustache imperiously and tie young maidens to the railroad tracks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:30 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Inner Circle - Meeting Minutes
 
 
 Minutes of last meeting and date of next meeting attached.
 
 
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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Dave Cabacongan

One bad foul and hot Monday
Our DNS went away
It's time for IT to play
Sometimes IT wants to pray
But in the very end - yes
It came back for all to see
Email flows and I'm happy.

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

It's Five-Seven-Five
Your first line was only four
Go Punish yourself

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Lambert
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


What is haiku
Is it 5 then 7 or
Am I old and dumb

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Another week ends
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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

You have it right. Five,
seven, five, seven, seven
is Tanka Tuesday.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


What is haiku
Is it 5 then 7 or
Am I old and dumb

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Subject: Haiku Friday

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Re: AntiVirus Change

2001-10-19 Thread Kelly_Borndale


Well, first off, you can scan with more than one engine when using Antigen.
Which means that if one virus pattern hasn't been updated, one of the
others will.  Good to fall back on.  I can get docs comparing Antigen to
Trend, feel free to contact me offline.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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And I am trying to convince my supervisor to not use InoculateIT and use
Sybari's Antigen instead... but, as you already know, that isn't an easy
task...

So, I beg you: please give me some link to a website/document that
compares antivirus for exchange server 5.5, so I can show my superiors the
mistake they are doing!!

I guess the new version of InoculateIT (eTrust InoculateIT 6.0, if i'm not
mistaken) is better than version 4... but I still consider Antigen better
than InoculateIT.

Thanks!


 Ok, I am trying to convince my Supervisor to switch from InoculateIT to
 Antigen.  Can someone point me to their website so that I can get some
more
 information about the product and get my research started.  Both my mail
 servers are Nt 4.0 w/SP6a, running Exchange 5.5 w/SP4

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Re: Mail from a secured exchange through ISA

2001-10-19 Thread Billy Ewing

We found the problem. Because we have people on two different segments we
have two NIC cards in the server. (Multi-Homing) What was happening was
the mail was connecting to the exchange server on one and trying to send
the message on the other. That doesn't work. When we shut down the second
NIC the mail worked fine. We figured the best way to fix the problem was a
router using NAT to connect to the second segment. The current TEMPORARY
fix was to put a manual entry into the bases exchange server that sends
mail directly to us through the base segment. And since it costs nothing
this TEMPORARY solution is likely to be the permanent solution.

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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Roger Seielstad

Or search restrictions

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 RE: Dumb thought No 3:
 
 Creating a new container for the CRs, while a good idea in my 
 opinion, will
 not prevent the addresses from muddying the GAL. It will make 
 it easier to
 separate the two entities out if the users, when addressing 
 their messages,
 choose to use the drop down menu next to the Show Messages from in the
 address book to select one of the containers instead of the 
 GAL, but the CRs
 will most definitely show in the GAL without ABVs.
 
 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; 
 even if you do
 some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.
 
 Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
 considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k 
 names instead?
 
 Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
 Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. 
 Sync OL2k. Take
 OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold 
 breath #1). Sync
 OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..
 
 Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate 
 users. And you
 are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both 
 the technical and
 political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's 
 into your dir
 without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
 presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
 create a new container and import the CR's into there.
 
 Tim.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
 Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today 
 because once our GAL
 is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately 
 create address
 book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views 
 will involve
 cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that 
 process takes
 time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 
 contact records into
 a Public Folder without hanging up the client.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder 
 contacts list?
 
 Mike Morrison
 NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
 Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders
 
 
 I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public 
 folders that is
 used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 
 60,000 records.
 Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to 
 use to update
 the records in the folder.
 
  Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public 
 Folders.  If I
 import into a local folder, then move the folder into the 
 Public Folders,
 all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an 
 Outlook Address
 folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local 
 folder, then
 copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs 
 up with such a
 large list of records.
 
 ANY SUGGESTIONS?
 
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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Bill Lambert

I screwed up haiku
So must now punish myself
Installing arcserv

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

It's Five-Seven-Five
Your first line was only four
Go Punish yourself

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Lambert
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


What is haiku
Is it 5 then 7 or
Am I old and dumb

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday

Another week ends
with no stops in the EV.
Doing something right.

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SENSLESS : RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Bauschek, Joe

MS and Madonna are screaming me to buy XP
The news people tell me Anthrax is evil
I wish to see all indians deported to Cleveland for IT
Time to create a budget that will get shelved
Pray our DB provider will fix Memory leak bugs

-Original Message-
From: Dave Cabacongan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


One bad foul and hot Monday
Our DNS went away
It's time for IT to play
Sometimes IT wants to pray
But in the very end - yes
It came back for all to see
Email flows and I'm happy.

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:05 *
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

It's Five-Seven-Five
Your first line was only four
Go Punish yourself

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Lambert
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


What is haiku
Is it 5 then 7 or
Am I old and dumb

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday

Another week ends
with no stops in the EV.
Doing something right.

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RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders

2001-10-19 Thread Smith, Calvin

I tried idea No 1, and it looks like when the folder has about 5K records,
it will choke when copying in a few hundred more.  It is not practical to
use this technique to reach 60K records unless someone knows a cure for the
choking.

I like idea No 2.  I haven't done much work with OST, but I think that I
will be able to figure it out.  I will post if I get it to work.

If there only was a utility like Exmerge that worked on public folders, my
problem would be solved.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Unfortunately, a client is required in order to access a PF; even if you do
some CDO, you are still gonna need a client to gain access to the dir.

Dumb thought No 1: If OL2k is choking on a massive import, have you
considered breaking the job into bitty parts? ..say, 10k names instead?

Dumb thought No 2: Configure OL2k as OST client. Add target PF into
Favorites folder. Set Favorites/targetPF to sync offline. Sync OL2k. Take
OL2k offline. Import contacts into Favorites/targetPF (hold breath #1). Sync
OL2k (hold breath #2). Let list know if dumb idea really works..

Dumb thought No 3: ABV's will provide a nice way to segregate users. And you
are correct that it'll take some planning to work out both the technical and
political whatnots. But you can certainly import 60k CR's into your dir
without being pressed into implementing ABV's before you are ready. I
presume their is a desire not to muddy the GAL with all those CR's, so
create a new container and import the CR's into there.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Actually in the long run, I will import the records into the Exchange
Directory as custom recipients.  I don't do that today because once our GAL
is increased by 60,000 entries, I will need to immediately create address
book views to manage the whole thing.  Creating these views will involve
cooperation of administrators across Exchange sites and that process takes
time.  I was hoping to find a quick way to copy 60,000 contact records into
a Public Folder without hanging up the client.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


Why not use Custom Recipients instead of a public folder contacts list?

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben  Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Smith, Calvin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Huge contact folder in Public Folders


I have a problem.  I have a contact folder in the Public folders that is
used for an address folder for Outlook clients.  It contains 60,000 records.
Once a month, I get a new list in csv format that I need to use to update
the records in the folder.

 Outlook won't import a foreign file directly into the Public Folders.  If I
import into a local folder, then move the folder into the Public Folders,
all the clients that are configured to use this folder as an Outlook Address
folder have to be reconfigured.  I can't import into a local folder, then
copy the records into the Public Folder because Outlook hangs up with such a
large list of records.

ANY SUGGESTIONS?

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Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon today.
 You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will ever use.
 Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, love life and be
 grateful for all we have in this great nation of ours.  Then come back on
 Monday refreshed and ready to take on the world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike.
I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me.
Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: SENSLESS : RE: Haiku Friday

2001-10-19 Thread Dave Cabacongan

Whooops, My brain CPU is too hot. I went 7... 7 times poor five...

-Original Message-
From: Bauschek, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:17 *
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SENSLESS : RE: Haiku Friday

MS and Madonna are screaming me to buy XP
The news people tell me Anthrax is evil
I wish to see all indians deported to Cleveland for IT
Time to create a budget that will get shelved
Pray our DB provider will fix Memory leak bugs

-Original Message-
From: Dave Cabacongan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


One bad foul and hot Monday
Our DNS went away
It's time for IT to play
Sometimes IT wants to pray
But in the very end - yes
It came back for all to see
Email flows and I'm happy.

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:05 *
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

It's Five-Seven-Five
Your first line was only four
Go Punish yourself

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Lambert
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


What is haiku
Is it 5 then 7 or
Am I old and dumb

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday

Another week ends
with no stops in the EV.
Doing something right.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Joyce, Louis

if they check the message header of the email they will see whether it came
from within the organisation  it will be blank if it was internal. If it is
from a SMTP spoof site it will have details from out side the organisation.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
+44 (0)1392 459155



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon today.
 You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will ever use.
 Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, love life and be
 grateful for all we have in this great nation of ours.  Then come back on
 Monday refreshed and ready to take on the world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike.
I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me.
Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Joyce, Louis

However, the permissions on the DL's would of had to of been non existent.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
+44 (0)1392 459155



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon today.
 You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will ever use.
 Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, love life and be
 grateful for all we have in this great nation of ours.  Then come back on
 Monday refreshed and ready to take on the world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike.
I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me.
Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Martin Blackstone

Headers, Let us see the headers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put
on your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants
a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following
likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission
to culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar
serve from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details
that have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tristan Gayford

If they didn't use his username/password, there would be an event in the
event log - get the IT people to have a look (or maybe they did
it..)



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely
prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread John Matteson

You have to be careful about using the Event log data as evidence. If
someone just looks at the calendar, it shows that the user logged on but was
not the owner of the mailbox.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha


-Original Message-
From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


If they didn't use his username/password, there would be an event in the
event log - get the IT people to have a look (or maybe they did
it..)



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely
prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Automatic Deletion

2001-10-19 Thread Sanborn, John

It's been to long to remember details, but read some propaganda, ... ummm,
sorry, sales brochures regarding a system that encrypts messages.  On
delivery it would provide secure delivery  read receipts, while preventing
cut  paste type operations.  After a predetermined time or # of reads it
would destroy the document.  

If you need a secure (and uncopyable) email you'll need to look for some
heavy-weight security packages.  All this, of course, assume that the
recipient is not a security risk himself...


-Original Message-
From: Anderson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Automatic Deletion


How do you know when someone's read it? Why couldn't they just take a screen
shot or cut and paste or, god forbid, just re-type the message and send it
out to the Internet?

-Original Message-
From: Bury, Sue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Automatic Deletion


Is there a way to either disable forwarding a particular email to the
Internet or automatically and permanently delete an email upon reading?
Thanks.





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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Thanks.

The message appears to have been sent directly from McDonald's mailbox.
Haven't heard yet if the font was courier (implies it was sent from OWA55).
If the culprit sent it via O.E., then the source IP can be traced back to
the internal host.

Tim.

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


if they check the message header of the email they will see whether it came
from within the organisation  it will be blank if it was internal. If it is
from a SMTP spoof site it will have details from out side the organisation.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
+44 (0)1392 459155



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon today.
 You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will ever use.
 Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, love life and be
 grateful for all we have in this great nation of ours.  Then come back on
 Monday refreshed and ready to take on the world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike.
I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me.
Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Yeah.. I'd like to see it too..
But I don't work there. 
I have to build up credibility with the dude before he'd turn over the
message.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


Headers, Let us see the headers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put
on your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants
a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following
likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission
to culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar
serve from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details
that have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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Understanding Non Delivery Message

2001-10-19 Thread Bill Lambert

I'm getting messages periodically when mail is undelivered.  I'm wondering
why the From is showing only .  I've looked at the IMS queues but there
were no further details.  

I'm new to Exchange, obviously.

Thanks for any help.


Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Thanks.

Check the EV for 1016's.. good suggestion.

Tim.

-Original Message-
From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


If they didn't use his username/password, there would be an event in the
event log - get the IT people to have a look (or maybe they did
it..)



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely
prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Thanks.

I believe item #1 (of my post) is most probable.. hell, I must leave OL2k
open and unattended on my PC a dozen times every day for minutes at a
stretch.

However, this takes balls. Considering the length and articulate phrasing of
the message, it seems the person would have spent an inordinate amount of
time at McDonald's desk. Certainly someone should have seen somebody there.

I have recommended they check the EV on the server which McDonald's mailbox
resides for EV 1016's.. just incase the Admin was in on it.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Wright, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


It appears that it was send via Exchange since there are no internet
addresses in the TO: FROM: fields.  Also, if you check the headers and there
is nothing there, then you have the culprit in-house and logging on
legitimately via the user's account.  The original suggestions below are
probably what occurred.

How accessible is the VP's computer?  May be someone took a quick
opportunity at an unattended computer.  If they were very clever, they might
have set the message to delay a day or so before delivery.

Hope everyone at the company took it seriously and went home ;-)

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


Headers, Let us see the headers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put
on your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants
a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following
likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission
to culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar
serve from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details
that have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Thanks.

Coincidental time and date of a 1016 would be a good indicator of suspicious
activity.
Also, Reviewer access is not on by default in OL2k's Calendar; however, I
do not know the delegate settings on McDonald's mailbox.

(btw: Really? I never noticed that.. Are you certain?)

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


You have to be careful about using the Event log data as evidence. If
someone just looks at the calendar, it shows that the user logged on but was
not the owner of the mailbox.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha


-Original Message-
From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


If they didn't use his username/password, there would be an event in the
event log - get the IT people to have a look (or maybe they did
it..)



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely
prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Understanding Non Delivery Message

2001-10-19 Thread Randal, Phil

Take a good look at RFC 2821 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html).

If there is a delivery failure after acceptance of a message, the
   receiver-SMTP MUST formulate and mail a notification message.  This
   notification MUST be sent using a null () reverse path in the
   envelope.  The recipient of this notification MUST be the address
   from the envelope return path (or the Return-Path: line).  However,
   if this address is null (), the receiver-SMTP MUST NOT send a
   notification.

It would appear that many mailers are misconfigured when it comes to
handling From: .

Cheers,

Phil
-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 October 2001 17:18
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Understanding Non Delivery Message
 
 
 I'm getting messages periodically when mail is undelivered.  
 I'm wondering
 why the From is showing only .  I've looked at the IMS 
 queues but there
 were no further details.  
 
 I'm new to Exchange, obviously.
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 
 Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 
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RE: O2K transport stack order not reliable?

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

Covered in the archives ad infinitum. Have them set up .forward files on the
unix boxxen or use separate profiles or upgrade to Outlook 2002, which is
somewhat better.

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
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 -Original Message-
 From: Phillips, Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:00 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Cc: Patterson, Norman
 Subject: O2K transport stack order not reliable?
 
 
 We have a couple of users with O2K installed in CW mode, set 
 to use mailboxes on our EX5.5SP4 servers and also POP 
 mailboxes on a Unix machine. They want mail to Internet 
 addresses to go out via the SMTP smarthost set up in the POP 
 configuration, so they have the Internet Mail transport at 
 the top of the delivery stack above the Exchange service.
 
 The users *claim* that up to 6 weeks ago it worked as they 
 wanted; but since then *all* messages go out via the Exchange server.
 
 We've tried on a test system using O2K SP2, and find that 
 about 1 in 4 messages to Internet addresses don't go via the 
 SMTP transport but use the Exchange server. The connection to 
 the SMTP server is reliable on a LAN - there's not enough 
 time for it to be timing out, and testing shows that if O2K 
 gets a refused connection from the smarthost you get a popup 
 message. So it looks like the client just doesn't always 
 respect the defined transport stack order.
 
 Has anyone got any ideas what might be going on?
 
 Thanks! 
 
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RE: Understanding Non Delivery Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tim Ault

Mail From can be blank.

RFC822 describes this nicely

-Original Message-
From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Understanding Non Delivery Message


I'm getting messages periodically when mail is undelivered.  I'm wondering
why the From is showing only .  I've looked at the IMS queues but there
were no further details.  

I'm new to Exchange, obviously.

Thanks for any help.


Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


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Understanding Non Delivery Message

2001-10-19 Thread Bill Lambert

Ok, this time I'll paste the message...duh...I've put  X's in the to
address for obvious reasons. 

I'm getting messages periodically when mail is undelivered.  I'm wondering
why the From is showing only .  I've looked at the IMS queues but there
were no further details.  

I'm new to Exchange, obviously.

Thanks for any help.



A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has
expired.  The message was not delivered to the following addresses:

The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: 
  Subject:  Undeliverable: Endoxy Agreement

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread John Matteson

Yep.

For example, if someone in the site schedules a meeting with another person
through Calendar, and does a view of the times available for the scheduled
person, an event log will show up saying the scheduling person logged into
the scheduled person's) mailbox, but wasn't the owner. You don't need
reviewer permissions to get the entry.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha


-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


Thanks.

Coincidental time and date of a 1016 would be a good indicator of suspicious
activity.
Also, Reviewer access is not on by default in OL2k's Calendar; however, I
do not know the delegate settings on McDonald's mailbox.

(btw: Really? I never noticed that.. Are you certain?)

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


You have to be careful about using the Event log data as evidence. If
someone just looks at the calendar, it shows that the user logged on but was
not the owner of the mailbox.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha


-Original Message-
From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


If they didn't use his username/password, there would be an event in the
event log - get the IT people to have a look (or maybe they did
it..)



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely
prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Chris Scharff

I'll investigate it at my standard rate... Just have them give me a blank
check and some beer nuts.

Chris
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MessageOne
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 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Investigating a Forged Message
 
 
 Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine 
 Friday.. put on your investigator hats..
 
 My wife forwarded this message to me:
 
  From:   McDonald, Arthur K.  
  Sent:   Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
  To: EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
  Subject:Much to be grateful for...
  
  All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and 
 for that 
  reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
  today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more 
 than I will 
  ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
  love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
  ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
  world!
 
 ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very 
 Pissed), wants a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my 
 woman) the following likely prospects:
 
 1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
 2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
 3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as 
 permission to culprit
 4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a 
 similar serve from the web.
 
 Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few 
 details that have be provide me. Care to contribute?
 
 Tim.
 
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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Martin Blackstone

Headers, Post your Headers

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


Thanks.

The message appears to have been sent directly from McDonald's mailbox.
Haven't heard yet if the font was courier (implies it was sent from
OWA55). If the culprit sent it via O.E., then the source IP can be
traced back to the internal host.

Tim.

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


if they check the message header of the email they will see whether it
came from within the organisation  it will be blank if it was internal.
If it is from a SMTP spoof site it will have details from out side the
organisation.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
+44 (0)1392 459155



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put
on your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that 
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants
a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following
likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission
to culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar
serve from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details
that have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Don Ely

Very certain!

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


Thanks.

Coincidental time and date of a 1016 would be a good indicator of suspicious
activity. Also, Reviewer access is not on by default in OL2k's Calendar;
however, I do not know the delegate settings on McDonald's mailbox.

(btw: Really? I never noticed that.. Are you certain?)

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


You have to be careful about using the Event log data as evidence. If
someone just looks at the calendar, it shows that the user logged on but was
not the owner of the mailbox.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha


-Original Message-
From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


If they didn't use his username/password, there would be an event in the
event log - get the IT people to have a look (or maybe they did
it..)



-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put on
your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants a
head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following likely
prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission to
culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar serve
from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details that
have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Andrew Chan

Well, that is not necessarily true.  All he needs is to precompose the
letter, put on floppy, and walk over with a simple copy-paste, done in 1
minute or less.

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA
 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:13 AM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
Conversation: Investigating a Forged Message
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


Thanks.

I believe item #1 (of my post) is most probable.. hell, I must leave
OL2k open and unattended on my PC a dozen times every day for minutes at
a stretch.

However, this takes balls. Considering the length and articulate
phrasing of the message, it seems the person would have spent an
inordinate amount of time at McDonald's desk. Certainly someone should
have seen somebody there.

I have recommended they check the EV on the server which McDonald's
mailbox resides for EV 1016's.. just incase the Admin was in on it.

Tim.


-Original Message-
From: Wright, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


It appears that it was send via Exchange since there are no internet
addresses in the TO: FROM: fields.  Also, if you check the headers and
there is nothing there, then you have the culprit in-house and logging
on legitimately via the user's account.  The original suggestions below
are probably what occurred.

How accessible is the VP's computer?  May be someone took a quick
opportunity at an unattended computer.  If they were very clever, they
might have set the message to delay a day or so before delivery.

Hope everyone at the company took it seriously and went home ;-)

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message


Headers, Let us see the headers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Investigating a Forged Message


Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put
on your investigator hats..

My wife forwarded this message to me:

 From: McDonald, Arthur K.  
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
 To:   EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
 Subject:  Much to be grateful for...
 
 All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and for that
 reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
 today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more than I will 
 ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
 love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
 ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
 world!

ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very Pissed), wants
a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following
likely prospects:

1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission
to culprit
4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar
serve from the web.

Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details
that have be provide me. Care to contribute?

Tim.

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RE: Investigating a Forged Message

2001-10-19 Thread Tom Meunier

Ask McDonald, Where exactly were you at 9:19AM this morning, and for
how long before that, and who knew?

i.e. was he in the washroom with his $250 Italian leathers poking out
underneath the stall, making noises that indicated extreme abdominal
discomfort...  :)


 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:13 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Investigating a Forged Message
 Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 I believe item #1 (of my post) is most probable.. hell, I 
 must leave OL2k
 open and unattended on my PC a dozen times every day for minutes at a
 stretch.
 
 However, this takes balls. Considering the length and 
 articulate phrasing of
 the message, it seems the person would have spent an 
 inordinate amount of
 time at McDonald's desk. Certainly someone should have seen 
 somebody there.
 
 I have recommended they check the EV on the server which 
 McDonald's mailbox
 resides for EV 1016's.. just incase the Admin was in on it.
 
 Tim.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wright, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
 
 
 It appears that it was send via Exchange since there are no internet
 addresses in the TO: FROM: fields.  Also, if you check the 
 headers and there
 is nothing there, then you have the culprit in-house and logging on
 legitimately via the user's account.  The original 
 suggestions below are
 probably what occurred.
 
 How accessible is the VP's computer?  May be someone took a quick
 opportunity at an unattended computer.  If they were very 
 clever, they might
 have set the message to delay a day or so before delivery.
 
 Hope everyone at the company took it seriously and went home ;-)
 
 Steve
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Investigating a Forged Message
 
 
 Headers, Let us see the headers.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Investigating a Forged Message
 
 
 Here's a little something some of you may enjoy this fine Friday.. put
 on your investigator hats..
 
 My wife forwarded this message to me:
 
  From:   McDonald, Arthur K.  
  Sent:   Friday, October 19, 2001 9:19 AM
  To: EPDS Contractors; EPDS - EPI Data Systems
  Subject:Much to be grateful for...
  
  All of us in this division have much to be grateful for and 
 for that 
  reason, I would like to encourage each of you to go home at noon 
  today. You may use my annual leave since I have far more 
 than I will 
  ever use. Go home, be with your families, talk with your neighbors, 
  love life and be grateful for all we have in this great nation of 
  ours.  Then come back on Monday refreshed and ready to take on the 
  world!
 
 ahem.. *chortle* ..well, in any event, Arthur, VP (Very 
 Pissed), wants
 a head on a pike. I will offer to him (via my woman) the following
 likely prospects:
 
 1) The culprit got direct access to OL2k on the desktop;
 2) The culprit knew Arthur's username  password;
 3) A confederate Exchange Admin granted User or Send as permission
 to culprit
 4) Culprit spoofed the message from an SMTP srvr, or used a similar
 serve from the web.
 
 Feel free to presume the obvious; and I can pass along a few details
 that have be provide me. Care to contribute?
 
 Tim.
 
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