RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)

2001-11-09 Thread .DL Helpdesk

Louis,

stop trying to pull on the exchange mailing list and get back to those
backups.

JJ

 
 Ahh!
 
 knowing smile
 
 
 Regards
 
 Mr Louis Joyce
 Computer Support Analyst
 Network Administrator
 BT Ignite eSolutions
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 09 November 2001 01:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
 
 
 
 life, love and the pursuit of sensible threads on this list 
 *wink*...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
 
 What's so funny young lady?
 
 Regards
 
 Mr Louis Joyce
 Computer Support Analyst
 Network Administrator
 BT Ignite eSolutions
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
 
 Ha ha ha..rofl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Fonts
 
 e.
 
 Well the email you have just sent doesn't contain any of 
 those little quirks
 at the bottom anymore.
 
 Regards
 
 Mr Louis Joyce
 Computer Support Analyst
 Network Administrator
 BT Ignite eSolutions
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Fonts
 
 I applied the patch in the
 http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/6/15.ASP
 article.
But it seems not to have worked.

/Roberto


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RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


Yes but I need to be in charge of the mailboxes created and be able to use
my own developed testing tool to fire mails @ the accounts and I need to
have control over the user names of the accounts created.
I had a quick look @ loadsim and as far as I could tell, all it did was
create Mailboxes which lived on the Exch Svr  but which were not actual
'live' AD user accounts. I needed to be in control of the user mailboxes to
ensure that the differently configured mailboxes could each receive
mail-fire off to 3rd party product-receive back again and deliver safely to
user.

I would use the loadsim tool as a stress tester before I put an Exch. system
live but without in-depth programming knowledge, in my testing environ, it
would not be much use to me.

Thanks for the thought thou'.

Regards
E.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

So this is probably too late to ask... But if you're doing this for testing
purposes, doesn't loadsim automagically create accounts and DLs?

Chris
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage!


 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

 Exported the existing users in there into a text file using
 ldifde.

 (NOTE: It is NB. @ this point to keep these elements the same:
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**)

 Copied and pasted (keeping the 1 letter of the user name the
 same for every
 user) so my list went:

 cn=Aa Wood
 (and all the other details)
 cn=Ab Wood
 (and all the other details)
 Ac Wood (you get the picture)

 Made 1 text file with 2000 users.used 'edit, replace' to
 edit the case-sensitive first letter of each name and saved
 as file 2 eg. Ba Wood Bb Wood Bc Wood (snore)

 So I had 26 x 2000 users in this format after about an hours work

 Now I will go back into those 26 files and use replace to
 change Aa to AAa after this I will have over 100,000
 users.and so on.

 Like everything else with Exch2KSrv...it is s damm simple
 once you know how to do it .. finding out how to do it is
 the only hard part

 Regards
 E.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

 So how did you create 50k users in this format?

  dn: CN=**Mary Wood*,CN=*Users*,DC=**Rome**,DC=**com**
  changetype: add
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**


 Chris
 --
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage!

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

  Idiots (my) guide to automating account creation (and therefore
  mailbox
  creation) in an AD/Exchange 2k environ
 
  Tools used: ldifde.exe (launches from the command prompt on
 a W2K AD
  DC) Notepad (or any other text editor)
 
  Note: This method presumes that you have a valid AD and
 Exch2K setup.
  You must be in front of W2K Svr. to access the Admin tools
 needed. You
  must be logged in as a Domain Controller on the server you complete
  this function from.
 
   1. Create a template text file which is going to give AD. all the
  config. info it needs to create the account. It should look
 something
  like this:
 
  dn: CN=**Mary Wood*,CN=*Users*,DC=**Rome**,DC=**com**
  changetype: add
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**
 
  *= AD environment variables
  **=User-dependant variables
 
  I recommend a max. number of users to add @ any one time to be 276
  (280+ by this method has made the Exchange server freezes
 for up to 30
  seconds)
 
  2. Save this file as an 'All files' *.ldif file under windows.
 
  3. The syntax to use in the command window is: ldifde -i -f
  *Exportuser.ldif* -s *AD-DC*
  What this means:
  Idifde = The .exe to run the process
  -i. The Idifde runs in export mode by default, the -i switch
  changes this to import mode
  *Exportuser.ldif*. The full name and path of the .Idif
  file you created earlier
  *AD-DC* The IP address/Domain name of the Active
  Directory Domain Controller
 
  Recommended: Run the tool on one user in the .ldif file to
 check that
  you have the syntax correct.
 
  Once the command has run (this is betrayed by the 'X
 entries modified
  successfully' instruction on the command prompt window),
 all you have
  to do is go to your Exchange server, refresh the 'Users'
 

RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


Groan, that herts...truly dreadful.
The really sad thing is that I am probably the only one on the list (besides
you)
who gets it.

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


I think I preferred the Puns, people round here are Welwyn to that.

SB

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

Ahem.  Err... I'm kinda new to this flirting thing.  Umm So Are
you a umm... thief? Why? Err Wellbecause... ummm... you
stole... the sunshine from my eyes


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off

To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
Didn't I see you the last time I saw you?


Bill Lambert
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


What the hell is this all about ...?


From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800


Pah.
[1]Your pun was worse than mine.
[2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)

[3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they
say What the hell does that mean???


E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk
of Hitchin, please[1].

Phil

[1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

  well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
 
  /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
 
  OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you make sure all
  the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a
  house there??
 
  Nothing like putting people to work :)
 
  Regards
  E.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
 
  Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
 
  Phil
 
  [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
 
  -
  Phil Randal
  Network Engineer
  Herefordshire Council
  Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
 
   life, love and the pursuit of sensible threads on this list
   *wink*...
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   What's so funny young lady?
  
   Regards
  
   Mr Louis Joyce
   Computer Support Analyst
   Network Administrator
   BT Ignite eSolutions
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Ha ha ha..rofl
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Fonts
  
   e.
  
   Well the email you have just sent doesn't contain any of those
   little quirks at the bottom anymore.
  
   Regards
  
   Mr Louis Joyce
   Computer Support Analyst
   Network Administrator
   BT Ignite eSolutions
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: RE: Fonts
  
   I applied the patch in the
   http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/6/15.ASP
   article.
  But it seems not to have worked.
 
  /Roberto
 
 
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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Randal, Phil

Glad to hear someone's getting it!

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 09 November 2001 19:22
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 
 Groan, that herts...truly dreadful.
 The really sad thing is that I am probably the only one on 
 the list (besides
 you)
 who gets it.
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 I think I preferred the Puns, people round here are Welwyn to that.
 
 SB
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 Ahem.  Err... I'm kinda new to this flirting thing.  Umm 
 So Are
 you a umm... thief? Why? Err Wellbecause... 
 ummm... you
 stole... the sunshine from my eyes
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off
 
 To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
 Didn't I see you the last time I saw you?
 
 
 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 What the hell is this all about ...?
 
 
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800
 
 
 Pah.
 [1]Your pun was worse than mine.
 [2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)
 
 [3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they
 say What the hell does that mean???
 
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk
 of Hitchin, please[1].
 
 Phil
 
 [1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
   well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
  
   /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
  
   OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you 
 make sure all
   the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a
   house there??
  
   Nothing like putting people to work :)
  
   Regards
   E.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
  
   Phil
  
   [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
  
   -
   Phil Randal
   Network Engineer
   Herefordshire Council
   Hereford, UK
  
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
life, love and the pursuit of sensible threads on this list
*wink*...
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
   
What's so funny young lady?
   
Regards
   
Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
   
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
   
Ha ha ha..rofl
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Fonts
   
e.
   
Well the email you have just sent doesn't contain any of those
little quirks at the bottom anymore.
   
Regards
   
Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
   
-Original Message-
From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Fonts
   
I applied the patch in the
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/6/15.ASP
article.
   But it seems not to have worked.
  
   /Roberto
  
  
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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread STEVE BROOK

If you're gonna be bad, be TRULY BAD! GRIN
SB

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??



Groan, that herts...truly dreadful.
The really sad thing is that I am probably the only one on the list
(besides
you)
who gets it.

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


I think I preferred the Puns, people round here are Welwyn to that.

SB

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

Ahem.  Err... I'm kinda new to this flirting thing.  Umm So Are
you a umm... thief? Why? Err Wellbecause... ummm... you
stole... the sunshine from my eyes


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off

To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
Didn't I see you the last time I saw you?


Bill Lambert
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


What the hell is this all about ...?


From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800


Pah.
[1]Your pun was worse than mine.
[2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)

[3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they 
say What the hell does that mean???


E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk
of Hitchin, please[1].

Phil

[1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

  well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
 
  /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
 
  OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you make sure all

  the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a house 
  there??
 
  Nothing like putting people to work :)
 
  Regards
  E.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
 
  Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
 
  Phil
 
  [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
 
  -
  Phil Randal
  Network Engineer
  Herefordshire Council
  Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
 
   life, love and the pursuit of sensible threads on this list 
   *wink*...
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   What's so funny young lady?
  
   Regards
  
   Mr Louis Joyce
   Computer Support Analyst
   Network Administrator
   BT Ignite eSolutions
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Ha ha ha..rofl
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Fonts
  
   e.
  
   Well the email you have just sent doesn't contain any of those 
   little quirks at the bottom anymore.
  
   Regards
  
   Mr Louis Joyce
   Computer Support Analyst
   Network Administrator
   BT Ignite eSolutions
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: RE: Fonts
  
   I applied the patch in the 
   http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/6/15.ASP
   article.
  But it seems not to have worked.
 
  /Roberto
 
 
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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell

  = 

conspicuous lack on comment on that outrageous innuendo!

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


Glad to hear someone's getting it!

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 Groan, that herts...truly dreadful.
 The really sad thing is that I am probably the only one on 
 the list (besides
 you)
 who gets it.
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 I think I preferred the Puns, people round here are Welwyn to that.
 
 SB
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 Ahem.  Err... I'm kinda new to this flirting thing.  Umm 
 So Are
 you a umm... thief? Why? Err Wellbecause... 
 ummm... you
 stole... the sunshine from my eyes
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off
 
 To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
 Didn't I see you the last time I saw you?
 
 
 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 What the hell is this all about ...?
 
 
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800
 
 
 Pah.
 [1]Your pun was worse than mine.
 [2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)
 
 [3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they
 say What the hell does that mean???
 
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk
 of Hitchin, please[1].
 
 Phil
 
 [1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
   well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
  
   /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
  
   OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you 
 make sure all
   the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a
   house there??
  
   Nothing like putting people to work :)
  
   Regards
   E.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
  
   Phil
  
   [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
  
   -
   Phil Randal
   Network Engineer
   Herefordshire Council
   Hereford, UK
  
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell 
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Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
life, love and the pursuit of sensible threads on this list
*wink*...
   
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Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
   
What's so funny young lady?
   
Regards
   
Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
   
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From: Elizabeth Farrell 
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Subject: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
   
Ha ha ha..rofl
   
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e.
   
Well the email you have just sent doesn't contain any of those
little quirks at the bottom anymore.
   
Regards
   
Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
   
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I applied the patch in the
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/6/15.ASP
article.
   But it seems not to have worked.
  
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RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

2001-11-09 Thread Julian Stone

To have a 'live' mailbox they must be users in the AD, as that is the
only directory !!


Yours, 

Julian Stone 
Exchange 2000 Consultant 

Netstore - Europe's Leading Application Service Provider 



-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 09 November 2001 18:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k



Yes but I need to be in charge of the mailboxes created and be able to
use my own developed testing tool to fire mails @ the accounts and I
need to have control over the user names of the accounts created. I had
a quick look @ loadsim and as far as I could tell, all it did was create
Mailboxes which lived on the Exch Svr  but which were not actual 'live'
AD user accounts. I needed to be in control of the user mailboxes to
ensure that the differently configured mailboxes could each receive
mail-fire off to 3rd party product-receive back again and deliver safely
to user.

I would use the loadsim tool as a stress tester before I put an Exch.
system live but without in-depth programming knowledge, in my testing
environ, it would not be much use to me.

Thanks for the thought thou'.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

So this is probably too late to ask... But if you're doing this for
testing purposes, doesn't loadsim automagically create accounts and DLs?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

 Exported the existing users in there into a text file using 
 ldifde.

 (NOTE: It is NB. @ this point to keep these elements the same:
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**)

 Copied and pasted (keeping the 1 letter of the user name the same for 
 every
 user) so my list went:

 cn=Aa Wood
 (and all the other details)
 cn=Ab Wood
 (and all the other details)
 Ac Wood (you get the picture)

 Made 1 text file with 2000 users.used 'edit, replace' to edit the 
 case-sensitive first letter of each name and saved as file 2 eg. Ba 
 Wood Bb Wood Bc Wood (snore)

 So I had 26 x 2000 users in this format after about an hours work

 Now I will go back into those 26 files and use replace to change Aa 
 to AAa after this I will have over 100,000 users.and so on.

 Like everything else with Exch2KSrv...it is s damm simple once you

 know how to do it .. finding out how to do it is the only hard 
 part

 Regards
 E.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

 So how did you create 50k users in this format?

  dn: CN=**Mary Wood*,CN=*Users*,DC=**Rome**,DC=**com**
  changetype: add
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**


 Chris
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 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage!

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

  Idiots (my) guide to automating account creation (and therefore 
  mailbox
  creation) in an AD/Exchange 2k environ
 
  Tools used: ldifde.exe (launches from the command prompt on
 a W2K AD
  DC) Notepad (or any other text editor)
 
  Note: This method presumes that you have a valid AD and
 Exch2K setup.
  You must be in front of W2K Svr. to access the Admin tools
 needed. You
  must be logged in as a Domain Controller on the server you complete 
  this function from.
 
   1. Create a template text file which is going to give AD. all the 
  config. info it needs to create the account. It should look
 something
  like this:
 
  dn: CN=**Mary Wood*,CN=*Users*,DC=**Rome**,DC=**com**
  changetype: add
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**
 
  *= AD environment variables
  **=User-dependant variables
 
  I recommend a max. number of users to add @ any one time to be 276 
  (280+ by this method has made the Exchange server freezes
 for up to 30
  seconds)
 
  2. Save this file as an 'All files' *.ldif file under windows.
 
  3. The syntax to use in the command window is: ldifde -i -f
  *Exportuser.ldif* -s *AD-DC*
  What this means:
  Idifde = The .exe to run the process
  -i. The Idifde runs in export mode by default, the -i switch 
  changes this to import mode
  *Exportuser.ldif*. The full name and path of the .Idif file you 
  

RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell



errryes, and as I said, that is why I used the Ldifde tool to create the
accounts and not loadsim.

Was there some part of my reply to Chris you misinterpreted?

Easily excited chap aren't you? Don't wear out the exclamation marks button
on your KB.
:)

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

To have a 'live' mailbox they must be users in the AD, as that is the
only directory !!

Yours,

Julian Stone
Exchange 2000 Consultant

Netstore - Europe's Leading Application Service Provider

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k


Yes but I need to be in charge of the mailboxes created and be able to
use my own developed testing tool to fire mails @ the accounts and I
need to have control over the user names of the accounts created. I had
a quick look @ loadsim and as far as I could tell, all it did was create
Mailboxes which lived on the Exch Svr  but which were not actual 'live'
AD user accounts. I needed to be in control of the user mailboxes to
ensure that the differently configured mailboxes could each receive
mail-fire off to 3rd party product-receive back again and deliver safely
to user.

I would use the loadsim tool as a stress tester before I put an Exch.
system live but without in-depth programming knowledge, in my testing
environ, it would not be much use to me.

Thanks for the thought thou'.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

So this is probably too late to ask... But if you're doing this for
testing purposes, doesn't loadsim automagically create accounts and DLs?

Chris
--
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage!


 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

 Exported the existing users in there into a text file using
 ldifde.

 (NOTE: It is NB. @ this point to keep these elements the same:
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**)

 Copied and pasted (keeping the 1 letter of the user name the same for
 every
 user) so my list went:

 cn=Aa Wood
 (and all the other details)
 cn=Ab Wood
 (and all the other details)
 Ac Wood (you get the picture)

 Made 1 text file with 2000 users.used 'edit, replace' to edit the
 case-sensitive first letter of each name and saved as file 2 eg. Ba
 Wood Bb Wood Bc Wood (snore)

 So I had 26 x 2000 users in this format after about an hours work

 Now I will go back into those 26 files and use replace to change Aa
 to AAa after this I will have over 100,000 users.and so on.

 Like everything else with Exch2KSrv...it is s damm simple once you

 know how to do it .. finding out how to do it is the only hard
 part

 Regards
 E.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

 So how did you create 50k users in this format?

  dn: CN=**Mary Wood*,CN=*Users*,DC=**Rome**,DC=**com**
  changetype: add
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**


 Chris
 --
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage!

  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Subject: Ta na - How to automate mailbox creation in Exch2k

  Idiots (my) guide to automating account creation (and therefore
  mailbox
  creation) in an AD/Exchange 2k environ
 
  Tools used: ldifde.exe (launches from the command prompt on
 a W2K AD
  DC) Notepad (or any other text editor)
 
  Note: This method presumes that you have a valid AD and
 Exch2K setup.
  You must be in front of W2K Svr. to access the Admin tools
 needed. You
  must be logged in as a Domain Controller on the server you complete
  this function from.
 
   1. Create a template text file which is going to give AD. all the
  config. info it needs to create the account. It should look
 something
  like this:
 
  dn: CN=**Mary Wood*,CN=*Users*,DC=**Rome**,DC=**com**
  changetype: add
  cn: **Mary Wood**
  objectClass: *user*
  samAccountName: **Mary**
  givenName: **Mary**
  sn: **Wood*
  userPrincipalName: **Mary**
  mail: **[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
  mailNickname: **Mary**
 
  *= AD environment variables
  **=User-dependant variables
 
  I recommend a max. number of users to add @ any one time to be 276
  (280+ by this method has made the Exchange server freezes
 for up to 30
  seconds)
 
  2. Save this file as an 'All files' *.ldif file under windows.
 
  3. The syntax to 

RE: limiting smtp (or other) mail...

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


Mimesweeper has been getting a bit of unfavourable press here in the UK
lately:
http://computing.vnunet.com/News/1126721

This is just a report and not an endorsement much :)

But it is nice to work with and on a product I admire.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: limiting smtp (or other) mail...


You can implement a 3rd party product such as mimesweeper.

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: limiting smtp (or other) mail...

 I know there have been some threads in the past regarding how
 to limit the kind of email some users can send/receive, most
 usually smtp mail directed/received from the internet. I
 haven't been able to find those threads again in my or
 swynk's archives :(, however IIRC the most suggested method has been:

 - limit sending on the IMC, in order to simplify management
 (if you have multiple IMC or something) restrict a DL
 containing the users, or a DL containing a CR with it's
 primary NT account set to a NT group if you prefer).

 - limit receiving by removing the smtp address from those accounts.

 I'm wondering if a better solution for the receiving part has
 been found (for nt4 btw) - the smtp address could be usefull
 internally (some of my users still always do write
 name.surname@ourdomain, never surname ctrl-k or choose
 from the address book), and anyway this does mean touching
 directly the mailbox and the IMC or the DL or the Nt group.

 I'd prefer either something changeable with one action
 (exchange admin if necessary, or Nt Usermanager changeable
 from nt user manager (one action, can be changed by a user
 admin without exchange permissions) or at least with a single
 action (by a exchange admin).

 I suppose I could always write some kind of script but I fear
 it would become somewhat ugly (for example, change a nt group
 and then the user by automatic user export/change/import, or
 are there some objects for this ?)

 Thanks
 Heiko

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RE: I have no other place to go

2001-11-09 Thread Tener, Richard

It worked I had to only add another VPN port.  It was set to allow only one
caller to come in at a time.

Thanks for all your help guys.
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

I just added another VPN port and connected two users to the server.  I did
that with phone lines through the internet though .  I cant test the two
laptops that are connected to the router because they are at home connected
through a cable modem.  I will test it out when I get home and crossing my
finger I hope it works.  I have to have this done tomorrow (deadline).  They
only gave me three days notice to set this up. 

-Original Message-
From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Would'nt you know it, one of my few posts to this list and its not about
exchange

Anyway I was going to setup a client with MS PPTP/RRAS Vpn behind a linksys
(same model), but discovered this Netopia R910 router (about $100 more)
supports PPTP VPN connections at the router.  Along with some nifty Router
to Router tunneling.

Just FYI (no connection to the company)
http://www.netopia.com/support/technotes/hardware/NQG_022.html

For what it's worth I think your 2nd VPN connection was failing because you
had only the 1 defined VPN port configured.

Allan

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Say I heard on the radio there were going to be solar flares today.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Don't blame it on a fluke...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Reboot it, run out of the server room as soon as you hit restart and go
to your desk.
Then when someone complains say let me check on it. Then come back and
act like it was just a fluke. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I hate office time I want to restart the server cause I added another
vpn Port but I cant test it until everyone leave which around 8 oclock
R

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

There is a FW in the router.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I connected the linksys router to my cable modem at home then I
connected the two laptops to the router.  I got internet connection with
them.  Then when I connected one laptop to the VPN it worked.  And when
I tried the second one it gave me error 781:  Im not sure if there is a
firewall in the linksys router.  Otherwise Im not behind a firewall.


2598  Windows 2000 VPN connection generates error 781 - Encryption
failed because no valid certificate was found? When you attempt to
establish a VPN connection to a VPN server, you receive: Error 781
Encryption failed because no valid certificate was found.

This can occur on a new connection or on one that previously worked.

The error is produced because the connection is incomplete. You should:

1. Verify basic network connectivity between the client and the server.

2. Make sure that you have name resolution between the client and the
server.

3. Use the Networking and TCP/IP troubleshooter in the Windows 2000
Help.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Oh, and you're running NAT on the Linux Firewall Router right?  What
kind of firewall is the VPN server sitting behind?  Some VPN connections
don't work over NAT.  That could be your biggest problem right there.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


One VPN port for 10 users  Shouldn't you have 10 VPN ports?  One for
each connecting user...

What is the exact error message?  I don't tend to remember things like
781 equals

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 

RE: ADC

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Harford

And in English? 

CAs are between (containers in) 55 Sites and (OUs in) AD Domains whereas you
appear to be referring to Sites when you may mean Domains and vice-versa.

Rephrase it logically and we'll see what we can do!  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 08 November 2001 21:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ADC


All,

Ok I have currently an ADC setup in my 5.5 org between one of my 5.5 servers
and my e2k box that's inside this site.  Ok, I have to setup another ADC on
another site to my site. Now can I setup mulitple CA's on on containers? For
instance I have a CA between my Exchange users(5.5) and users on my E2K
server.  Now I want to setup a CA from my other site to my Exchange users on
my (5.5) server.  Is this acceptable?  Will I encounter any problems by
doing this?  Please advise.

Thank you,

John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support  Engineering
Celera Genomics
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Seriously been tasked with this

2001-11-09 Thread Cook, David A.

Happy Friday to all. I should have saved this for a Monday morning as
I'm sure it's going to bring many laughs and many people saying that
this is absolutely crazy. I've been tasked with this though and I thus
have to come up with a solution and pricing for the solution. I doubt it
is anything that will seriously be implemented but here is the job at
hand.

I'm running Exchange 2000 with all incoming mail coming in through a
Mail Marshal mail gateway. We had a situation a few months ago in which
we had major AD replication issues that cause DCs/GCs to respond very
slowly and in some cases not respond as DCs/GCs at all. This caused
Exchange to be unusable and for all practical purposes we were in a
network down situation for 3 days with Microsoft in house working the
issue with us. As we all know if AD is down then Exchange is down also.

The task is to make sending, receiving and access to recent emails
available in the event of another network down situation. Obviously if
the physical network is down this is impossible but if Exchange goes
down then they want email to be available in some way. Since E2K relies
on AD I figure this secondary access can not include E2K.

My thought, and I don't think the money could be justified, is that I
have some type of a POP server that no one ever logs into. I would have
a mailbox for each user on that POP server and every message coming in
from the internet would be forward from the gateway to Exchange like it
currently is and a copy also sent to the POP server. The POP server
would then need the functionality to automatically delete any emails
over a certain age. In the event of Exchange being down we could notify
everyone to open Outlook Express which we would have preconfigured
through policy to point to the POP server and the users would be
functional with respect to email. 

I'm prepared for some interesting responses to this crazy idea.

Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
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RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu

2001-11-09 Thread Rachel Pickens


On a Server its one more thing that could go wrong. I stand by my first
comment.

Rachel
(Note to self... Where did I leave lace blouse that shows off cleavage?)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


You must be using it wrong then.
Uncheck View as Web Page. Works Fine.

Respectfully leering
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


I hope you are kidding.
Active Desktop has never been, and is not now stable.
I would never recommend you turn that feature on. Ever.

respectfully lurking
rachel

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Or Maybe install IE with active Desktop and split the Logoff and Shutdown
menus...




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RE: Seriously been tasked with this

2001-11-09 Thread Mike Carlson

Actually I have heard of something like this before. I don't think this
is all that unusual.

I know the Mdaemon (http://www.mdaemon.com) has the ability to delete
messages after so many days. Mdaemon is a ver full featured mail server,
but it just doesn't have all the collaboration that exchange does.

I used Mdaemon for years before moving to Exchange.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Seriously been tasked with this


Happy Friday to all. I should have saved this for a Monday morning as
I'm sure it's going to bring many laughs and many people saying that
this is absolutely crazy. I've been tasked with this though and I thus
have to come up with a solution and pricing for the solution. I doubt it
is anything that will seriously be implemented but here is the job at
hand.

I'm running Exchange 2000 with all incoming mail coming in through a
Mail Marshal mail gateway. We had a situation a few months ago in which
we had major AD replication issues that cause DCs/GCs to respond very
slowly and in some cases not respond as DCs/GCs at all. This caused
Exchange to be unusable and for all practical purposes we were in a
network down situation for 3 days with Microsoft in house working the
issue with us. As we all know if AD is down then Exchange is down also.

The task is to make sending, receiving and access to recent emails
available in the event of another network down situation. Obviously if
the physical network is down this is impossible but if Exchange goes
down then they want email to be available in some way. Since E2K relies
on AD I figure this secondary access can not include E2K.

My thought, and I don't think the money could be justified, is that I
have some type of a POP server that no one ever logs into. I would have
a mailbox for each user on that POP server and every message coming in
from the internet would be forward from the gateway to Exchange like it
currently is and a copy also sent to the POP server. The POP server
would then need the functionality to automatically delete any emails
over a certain age. In the event of Exchange being down we could notify
everyone to open Outlook Express which we would have preconfigured
through policy to point to the POP server and the users would be
functional with respect to email. 

I'm prepared for some interesting responses to this crazy idea.

Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
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Mailbox Creation in 5.5 via Perl or Other (not vbs)

2001-11-09 Thread Wynkoop, John

Is anyone on this list familiar with the creation of mailboxes via perl
(substitute your favorite scripting language here).  I'd prefer not to use
VBS if I can manage.  Basically I have a payroll system I want to pull my
list of new accounts from and create them automatically, any help would be
appreciated.
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RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Roger Seielstad

 We are all over-worked. Just because you are the only one isnt any
 excuse for failing to test and plan a roll out. You need to make the
 case to your boss about help. Like they say here in the US 
 Ignorance of
 the law is no excuse.

Personally, I like a former coworker's comment:

If we don't have the time to do it right the first time, when are we going
to have time to do it again?

Personally, the original poster brought the entire issue upon himself.

Had this been an obscure, undocumented issue, we'd be right there trying it
out with him. But this is about the most well documented patch in the
history of Microsoft.

Roger
--
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Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 The MS01-052 patch is a case in point of making sure you TEST patches
 BEFORE you roll them out.
 
 The day that patch was released, NTBugTraq lit up like a 
 christmas tree
 with all the problems people had with that patch.
 
 As an administrator you absolutely need to test everything before you
 roll it out and read ALL the documentation regarding the patches.
 
 If you do not and you cause downtime because the patch breaks 
 something,
 the powers that be may have some words for you.
 
 We are all over-worked. Just because you are the only one isnt any
 excuse for failing to test and plan a roll out. You need to make the
 case to your boss about help. Like they say here in the US 
 Ignorance of
 the law is no excuse.
 
 Where I work we have a few dozen servers ranging from ancient VAX
 systems to OS/2 boxes to Novel 4.11 to Win2k to SQL 7 to 
 Lotus Notes to
 CC:Mail to ArcServe to IIS all managed by 4 of us. We have a 
 few hundred
 users in the US and a few dozen scattered over the rest of the planet.
 
 Our supported applications are everything from Acces 2.0 
 applications to
 all kinds of weird freakish applications to Office XP.
 
 OSs are everything from Linux to WinXP to MacOS X.
 
 Again, 4 of us. We still manage to test everything before we roll it
 out. That is not to say we dont get bit in the butt once in a 
 while, but
 we are sure to take all the steps we can.
 
 Outlook is working exactly as designed. It is meant to do what it is
 doing. If you do not like they way Outlook works now, uninstall it and
 start from stratch.
 
 Mike
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom.Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Shawn:  (and all others that seem to enjoy raging against Microsoft)
 
 If you truly believe what you say about Microsoft's incompetence, why
 are you using their products?  There are other products out there, as
 you proclaim in your message.  If you are really opposed to 
 that product
 why do you support it?  Aren't there plenty of companies out 
 there that
 are so sick and tired of Microsoft's faulty software that 
 they run other
 packages?  
 
 If your response to the above is well, I HAVE to use them because...
 -- then since you realize the weakness in these products shouldn't you
 KNOW the potential for problems in their fixes?  You DON'T have to
 support those products.  Find another company with better software.
 Sure, that job market is smaller, but isn't it better than 
 working with
 this miserable Microsoft software?
 
 But in case you don't realize it:
   Microsoft products (like all other ones) have problems.  Patches and
 Upgrades have consequences.  README files are there for a reason.
 Competent administrators make plans and perform tests because 
 they KNOW
 that every case is not covered by the manufacture in testing.
 
 
 If you truly hate Microsoft, stop supporting it and find another job
 with a company that doesn't use their products (good luck) 
 where all you
 do is watch the systems run smoothly all day long and get paid
 handsomely. Otherwise, quit whining about it and get used to the fact
 that being an administrator in a microsoft network takes 
 lots of WORK!
 
 
 Tom Gray, Network Engineer
 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
 Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ATT Net: (919)960-
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:30 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 You know, it astounds me that so many IT people are blind to 
 Microsoft's
 incompetence!
 
 BTW Mike, your 'car head light' analogy is not even relevant.  A more
 apt analogy would refer to the Ford Pinto's with the exploding gas
 tanks.  Sure the user could be mindful of 

RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Wynkoop, John

Actually, I was smart enough to test the patch first and didn't roll that
one out.  I was just voicing my opinion on Microsoft's business practices.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


How come you didn't discover this when you read the readme, or when you
were testing it? Or is it always easier to just blame someone else for
your mistakes?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wynkoop, John
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


I should have the option to block attachments or not!

Explanation:
Some of us (those who work for universities with stupid staff members
and arrogant professors) don't have the option of blocking attachments
(Gosh forbid we infringe on anyone's academic freedom).  That is
unless we wish to endure a never ending reign of sh*t from above.
Instead we have to work around the vunerabilities found in things such
as VBS, EXE, and COM files (which we have successfully done I might
add).  We managed to succesfully ward off NIMDA, Code Red, and a rash of
other recent viruses without changing what users can and can't do (see,
it can be done).  Now outlook just gives my users one more reason to
jump down my throat when something doesn't work.  Thanks MicroShaft.

John

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Even allowing your mail system to pass .EXE and .COM files is a mistake.
You should thank MS for making OL block those types of files since you
don't.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


For such a typically minor patch?
Where did you get that idea?

The Patch didnt break Outlook, your lack of preparation did.

Over and Out.

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


You know, it astounds me that so many IT people are blind to Microsoft's
incompetence!

BTW Mike, your 'car head light' analogy is not even relevant.  A more
apt analogy would refer to the Ford Pinto's with the exploding gas
tanks.  Sure the user could be mindful of driving only on roads with no
other vehicles, thereby preventing a back-end collision.  The 'solution'
in service patch 2 could be likened to Microsoft removing the gas tank
altogether.

First, I read about 70% of the material related to this service patch.
There are about 20 pages of material relating to this patch and since I
run a dept. with over 50 systems and 6 servers ON MY OWN (no help, not
even support contracts), I really don't have the time (nor is it humanly
possible) to read every patch/update/security document produced by
Microsoft alone (to say nothing about the 50+ other products I look
after).  No, I'm not whining!!

Simply put, this patch broke Outlook!!  An email program that cannot
accept
.com and .exe's is damaged!   Yes, yes, I know there are other methods
of
receiving files (such as zip'ed) but the point is that no other email
program such as Eudora, Groupwise, Netscape block these attachments. All
Microsoft had to do was to either disable the dangerous capabilities of
.asp,.vbs, (et al) code OR entirely block access to this code.  IT WAS
AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!  

Geezz, what's with some of you in this (supposed to be?) friendly
discussions group? 

I sent a message asking about this (yes, I admit it was confrontational)
and I read return responses basically calling me an idiot based on inane
assumptions!   

Of course, I had to risk installing this patch because the risk of an
Outlook-based virus outbreak out weighted the potential annoyance of
breaking Outlook.  BTW, I have never experienced a virus outbreak in the
6 years I've been with this company because of my pro-active stance on
these issues.

Message to Lori:
Project Plan and Test Plan Results???  For such a typically minor
patch? How many IT people do you have in your organization? The last
time I had the time to do anything like that was in 98/99 for Y2K. I'm
beginning to feel very small; am I the only IT person in this discussion
group with an IT budget less than my wage?

Message to Andy David:
See note about inane assumptions.

Over and out,
Shawn

 -Original Message-
From:   Exchange Discussions digest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   November 6, 2001 1:00 AM
To: 

RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu

2001-11-09 Thread Andy David

Well. I have absolutely no retort to this!


Andy



-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu



On a Server its one more thing that could go wrong. I stand by my first
comment.

Rachel
(Note to self... Where did I leave lace blouse that shows off
cleavage?)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


You must be using it wrong then.
Uncheck View as Web Page. Works Fine.

Respectfully leering
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


I hope you are kidding.
Active Desktop has never been, and is not now stable.
I would never recommend you turn that feature on. Ever.

respectfully lurking
rachel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Or Maybe install IE with active Desktop and split the Logoff and Shutdown
menus...




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RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Roger Seielstad

You have complete control, in a fully documented way, to control whether the
Outlook Security Patch (also included in Office 2000 SP2, IIRC) 'blocks'
attachments or not.

Again, this is hardly Microsoft's fault, unless you want to blame them for
developing functionality that a lot of their customers demanded. They are
guilty of that.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 I should have the option to block attachments or not!
 
 Explanation:
 Some of us (those who work for universities with stupid staff 
 members and
 arrogant professors) don't have the option of blocking 
 attachments (Gosh
 forbid we infringe on anyone's academic freedom).  That is 
 unless we wish
 to endure a never ending reign of sh*t from above.  Instead 
 we have to work
 around the vunerabilities found in things such as VBS, EXE, 
 and COM files
 (which we have successfully done I might add).  We managed to 
 succesfully
 ward off NIMDA, Code Red, and a rash of other recent viruses without
 changing what users can and can't do (see, it can be done).  
 Now outlook
 just gives my users one more reason to jump down my throat 
 when something
 doesn't work.  Thanks MicroShaft.
 
 John
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Even allowing your mail system to pass .EXE and .COM files is 
 a mistake.
 You should thank MS for making OL block those types of files since you
 don't.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:41 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 For such a typically minor patch?
   Where did you get that idea?
 
 The Patch didnt break Outlook, your lack of preparation did.
 
 Over and Out.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:30 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 You know, it astounds me that so many IT people are blind to 
 Microsoft's
 incompetence!
 
 BTW Mike, your 'car head light' analogy is not even relevant.  A more
 apt analogy would refer to the Ford Pinto's with the exploding gas
 tanks.  Sure the user could be mindful of driving only on 
 roads with no
 other vehicles, thereby preventing a back-end collision.  The 
 'solution'
 in service patch 2 could be likened to Microsoft removing the gas tank
 altogether.
 
 First, I read about 70% of the material related to this service patch.
 There are about 20 pages of material relating to this patch 
 and since I
 run a dept. with over 50 systems and 6 servers ON MY OWN (no help, not
 even support contracts), I really don't have the time (nor is 
 it humanly
 possible) to read every patch/update/security document produced by
 Microsoft alone (to say nothing about the 50+ other products I look
 after).  No, I'm not whining!!
 
 Simply put, this patch broke Outlook!!  An email program that cannot
 accept
 .com and .exe's is damaged!   Yes, yes, I know there are other methods
 of
 receiving files (such as zip'ed) but the point is that no other email
 program such as Eudora, Groupwise, Netscape block these attachments.
 All Microsoft had to do was to either disable the dangerous 
 capabilities
 of .asp,.vbs, (et al) code OR entirely block access to this code.  IT
 WAS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!  
 
 Geezz, what's with some of you in this (supposed to be?) friendly
 discussions group? 
 
 I sent a message asking about this (yes, I admit it was 
 confrontational)
 and I read return responses basically calling me an idiot 
 based on inane
 assumptions!   
 
 Of course, I had to risk installing this patch because the risk of an
 Outlook-based virus outbreak out weighted the potential annoyance of
 breaking Outlook.  BTW, I have never experienced a virus 
 outbreak in the
 6 years I've been with this company because of my pro-active stance on
 these issues.
 
 Message to Lori:
 Project Plan and Test Plan Results???  For such a typically minor
 patch? How many IT people do you have in your organization? The last
 time I had the time to do anything like that was in 98/99 for Y2K. I'm
 beginning to feel very small; am I the only IT person in this 
 discussion
 group with an IT budget less than my wage?
 
 Message to Andy David:
 See note about inane assumptions.
 
 Over and out,
 Shawn
 
  -Original Message-
 From:  

RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu

2001-11-09 Thread Benjamin Winzenz

But I'm sure that you have a smart-aleck comment somewhere out there that
you are waiting to use...(snicker)

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


 -Original Message-
From:   Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, November 09, 2001 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu

Well. I have absolutely no retort to this!


Andy



-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu



On a Server its one more thing that could go wrong. I stand by my first
comment.

Rachel
(Note to self... Where did I leave lace blouse that shows off
cleavage?)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


You must be using it wrong then.
Uncheck View as Web Page. Works Fine.

Respectfully leering
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


I hope you are kidding.
Active Desktop has never been, and is not now stable.
I would never recommend you turn that feature on. Ever.

respectfully lurking
rachel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Or Maybe install IE with active Desktop and split the Logoff and Shutdown
menus...




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RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Roger Seielstad

Someone else on this list used to post the peoples names on the main
Intranet page. It only took one major outbreak to fix that behavior.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 7:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 At my last job we proposed a security policy whereby any user 
 who executed a
 virus and infected the system would have to wear a dunce cap 
 and a T-Shirt
 that says I'm the idiot who opened the virus for a week.  
 It was almost
 made policy.  Damn hippies shot it down...
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:00 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Exactly why MS has to create patches like this particular one.
 
 Morons.
 
 What would be cool is if you could put a lock on their mail 
 box so that
 when they open up Outlook there is an administrative message staring
 them in the face. Before they could open any email they would have to
 click OK and then retype what the administrative message was in a box
 exactly as it was. If they don't get it right, they are 
 prompted again.
 If a new virus goes around the admin could put a lock on all mailboxes
 until they perform those steps.
 
 Kind like yelling at your kids. You tell them something and then you
 make them repeat it back to you so that you realize they 
 heard what you
 said.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Users will open anything regardless of what you say.
 I remember ILOVEYOU, and a user. I had sent out emails all day long
 warning about this virus that had penetrated to a few 
 machines before we
 had the DAT file for it. Anyhow, after an email an hour all day, I was
 talking to this guy about it at his desk. As I am talking, he 
 is looking
 at mail and opens it right then! He had a laptop, and I ripped the
 PCCard NIC out, but too late. He just stood there and stared 
 at me, as I
 turned and ran for my servers. Too late.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Yes you should and you do. Edit the registry.
 
 No reason to blame MS for stupid people that open every
 clickmetof*ckupyourcomputer.exe they get in an email.
 
 When are people going to take responsibility for stupid stuff they do
 and their own incompetence.
 
 If you don't know how to drive are you going to blame the person that
 runs into you? If you don't know how to use a shotgun are 
 going to blame
 the person who sold you the gun when you blow your arm off?
 
 I am amazed all the time when we get new hires, that cant 
 barely survive
 without a sign on their desk reminding them to inhale and exhale
 otherwise they will die, and throw them in front of a 
 computer and they
 have no clue. We had to send a tech down to help a person log 
 into their
 computer. They didn't know how to press CTRL+ALT+DEL. The keyboard had
 CTL instead of CTRL on the key.
 
 Or the other fabulous ones that reboot their computer and 
 call us saying
 their hard drive crashed when all they did was leave a non-bootable
 floppy disk in the drive.
 
 People need to take responsibility and face up to the fact 
 that they are
 computer illiterate or just plain dense when it comes to some of this
 stuff.
 
 Because people think they are computer geniuses even though they
 couldn't tell the difference between \ and / companies like Microsoft
 have to put in their application things like this patch.
 
 My wife is a prime example. She will be the first to admint 
 she doesn't
 know anything about computers ecept for the applications that she uses
 all the time. If I am logged into my computer and she needs 
 it, she logs
 into her own account because I have setup her account so that she cant
 do any damage to the computer.
 
 Don't blame MS. They are just responding to all the crap they 
 got about
 not being secure. If people wouldn't click on every stupid theng they
 get via email, MS would ahev NEVER released that patch.
 
 There is no one to blame but morons.
 
 Mike
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following 
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 I should have 

RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Mike Carlson

Conformity by humiliation. Works like a champ.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Someone else on this list used to post the peoples names on the main
Intranet page. It only took one major outbreak to fix that behavior.

Roger
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 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 7:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Outlook blocked access to the following
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 At my last job we proposed a security policy whereby any user
 who executed a
 virus and infected the system would have to wear a dunce cap 
 and a T-Shirt
 that says I'm the idiot who opened the virus for a week.  
 It was almost
 made policy.  Damn hippies shot it down...
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:00 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Exactly why MS has to create patches like this particular one.
 
 Morons.
 
 What would be cool is if you could put a lock on their mail
 box so that
 when they open up Outlook there is an administrative message staring
 them in the face. Before they could open any email they would have to
 click OK and then retype what the administrative message was in a box
 exactly as it was. If they don't get it right, they are 
 prompted again.
 If a new virus goes around the admin could put a lock on all mailboxes
 until they perform those steps.
 
 Kind like yelling at your kids. You tell them something and then you 
 make them repeat it back to you so that you realize they heard what 
 you said.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Users will open anything regardless of what you say.
 I remember ILOVEYOU, and a user. I had sent out emails all day long 
 warning about this virus that had penetrated to a few machines before 
 we had the DAT file for it. Anyhow, after an email an hour all day, I 
 was talking to this guy about it at his desk. As I am talking, he
 is looking
 at mail and opens it right then! He had a laptop, and I ripped the
 PCCard NIC out, but too late. He just stood there and stared 
 at me, as I
 turned and ran for my servers. Too late.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following
 potentially unsafe
 
 
 Yes you should and you do. Edit the registry.
 
 No reason to blame MS for stupid people that open every 
 clickmetof*ckupyourcomputer.exe they get in an email.
 
 When are people going to take responsibility for stupid stuff they do 
 and their own incompetence.
 
 If you don't know how to drive are you going to blame the person that 
 runs into you? If you don't know how to use a shotgun are going to 
 blame the person who sold you the gun when you blow your arm off?
 
 I am amazed all the time when we get new hires, that cant
 barely survive
 without a sign on their desk reminding them to inhale and exhale
 otherwise they will die, and throw them in front of a 
 computer and they
 have no clue. We had to send a tech down to help a person log 
 into their
 computer. They didn't know how to press CTRL+ALT+DEL. The keyboard had
 CTL instead of CTRL on the key.
 
 Or the other fabulous ones that reboot their computer and
 call us saying
 their hard drive crashed when all they did was leave a non-bootable
 floppy disk in the drive.
 
 People need to take responsibility and face up to the fact
 that they are
 computer illiterate or just plain dense when it comes to some of this
 stuff.
 
 Because people think they are computer geniuses even though they 
 couldn't tell the difference between \ and / companies like Microsoft 
 have to put in their application things like this patch.
 
 My wife is a prime example. She will be the first to admint
 she doesn't
 know anything about computers ecept for the applications that she uses
 all the time. If I am logged into my computer and she needs 
 it, she logs
 into her own account because I have setup her account so that she cant
 do any damage to the computer.
 
 Don't blame MS. They are just responding to all the crap they
 got about
 not being secure. If people wouldn't click on every stupid theng they
 get via email, MS would ahev NEVER released that patch.
 
 There is no one to blame 

RE: Tumbleweed or Mimesweeper

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, neither of those products is cheap, so depending on how one defines
cost effective it might be worth looking at other products
(www.mail-resources.com has a list). I've found mimesweeper to be a bit more
reliable in my testing, but that was quite a while ago.

Chris
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MessageOne
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:59 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Tumbleweed or Mimesweeper
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 Thanks for the response.
 
 There are about 100 useres, and we mainly want it to:
 
 
 1: Scan all email and quantine for;
   i.   Virus
   ii.  Specific words incoming and outgoing
   iii. Stop specific attachments i.e. .vbs files
 2: Add a disclaimer
 3: Cost effective
 4: Archive all emails sent and received
 
 Thanks
 
 Vas
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
 Sent: 07 November 2001 22:58
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Tumbleweed or Mimesweeper
 
 
 How large of an organization and what are the operational 
 parameters they must meet (in order of importance preferably)?
 
 Chris
 -- 
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 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:14 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Tumbleweed or Mimesweeper
  
  
  Hi all
  
  I have been to both websites and have read up on tumbleweed
  and mimesweeper for SMTP.  They both do the job, and they 
  both sound really good... Which one has the edge on the other 
  tho...  Any advice?
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
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RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu

2001-11-09 Thread Tom Meunier

Hell has officially frozen over, please disperse quietly.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, November 09, 2001 08:00 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu
 Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu
 
 
 Well. I have absolutely no retort to this!
 
 
 Andy
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu
 
 
 
 On a Server its one more thing that could go wrong. I stand 
 by my first
 comment.
 
 Rachel
   (Note to self... Where did I leave lace blouse that shows off
 cleavage?)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu
 
 
 You must be using it wrong then.
 Uncheck View as Web Page. Works Fine.
 
 Respectfully leering
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:08 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu
 
 
 I hope you are kidding.
 Active Desktop has never been, and is not now stable.
 I would never recommend you turn that feature on. Ever.
 
 respectfully lurking
 rachel
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:57 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu
 
 
 Or Maybe install IE with active Desktop and split the Logoff 
 and Shutdown
 menus...
 
 
 

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RE: NDR and Relaying Problems

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Call your ISP and tell them they are non-compliant with the relevant RFCs.
Or configure your server to deliver mail using DNS.

Chris
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Nizar El-Assaad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:59 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: NDR and Relaying Problems
 
 
 Hello
 
 Ever since I installed Exchange 5.5 sp4, my server can longer 
 send NDRs. Whenever a message reaches the server with a bad 
 address, and the server tries to send back an NDR, I get the 
 following error message: The following recipients did not 
 receive the attached mail. Reasons are listed with each
 recipient: originator originator MSEXCH:IMS:ANZIMA 
 S.A.L.:ANZIMA:YASMINA 3550 (000B09AA) 550 relaying mail to 
 [originator domain] is not allowed.
 
 My server is Yasmina, and my organization/site is Anzima.
 
 For outbound mail, I set Exchange to forward all messages to 
 my ISP SMTP server, because if I use DNS, a lot of messages 
 fail to be delivered (I have a dial-up connection).
 
 Thank you for your help.
 
 Best Regards
 Nizar El-Assaad
 
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RE: Mailbox Creation in 5.5 via Perl or Other (not vbs)

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Check the script archives at swinc for an e2k perl sample.

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Mailbox Creation in 5.5 via Perl or Other (not vbs)
 
 
 Is anyone on this list familiar with the creation of 
 mailboxes via perl (substitute your favorite scripting 
 language here).  I'd prefer not to use VBS if I can manage.  
 Basically I have a payroll system I want to pull my list of 
 new accounts from and create them automatically, any help 
 would be appreciated. J
 
 
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RE: Seriously been tasked with this

2001-11-09 Thread Joyce, Louis

Sounds like a good idea Dave.

Shouldn't be that expensive to make a reality.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2001 13:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Seriously been tasked with this


Happy Friday to all. I should have saved this for a Monday morning as
I'm sure it's going to bring many laughs and many people saying that
this is absolutely crazy. I've been tasked with this though and I thus
have to come up with a solution and pricing for the solution. I doubt it
is anything that will seriously be implemented but here is the job at
hand.

I'm running Exchange 2000 with all incoming mail coming in through a
Mail Marshal mail gateway. We had a situation a few months ago in which
we had major AD replication issues that cause DCs/GCs to respond very
slowly and in some cases not respond as DCs/GCs at all. This caused
Exchange to be unusable and for all practical purposes we were in a
network down situation for 3 days with Microsoft in house working the
issue with us. As we all know if AD is down then Exchange is down also.

The task is to make sending, receiving and access to recent emails
available in the event of another network down situation. Obviously if
the physical network is down this is impossible but if Exchange goes
down then they want email to be available in some way. Since E2K relies
on AD I figure this secondary access can not include E2K.

My thought, and I don't think the money could be justified, is that I
have some type of a POP server that no one ever logs into. I would have
a mailbox for each user on that POP server and every message coming in
from the internet would be forward from the gateway to Exchange like it
currently is and a copy also sent to the POP server. The POP server
would then need the functionality to automatically delete any emails
over a certain age. In the event of Exchange being down we could notify
everyone to open Outlook Express which we would have preconfigured
through policy to point to the POP server and the users would be
functional with respect to email. 

I'm prepared for some interesting responses to this crazy idea.

Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
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Haiku Friday

2001-11-09 Thread Soysal, Serdar


People are stupid
At least the ones around me
I am really doomed.


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RE: I have no other place to go

2001-11-09 Thread Don Ely

So where's my Scooby snacks?!?!?!?!?!  That was one of the first things that
was mentioned...  I want my Scooby snacks!!!  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


It worked I had to only add another VPN port.  It was set to allow only one
caller to come in at a time.

Thanks for all your help guys.
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

I just added another VPN port and connected two users to the server.  I did
that with phone lines through the internet though .  I cant test the two
laptops that are connected to the router because they are at home connected
through a cable modem.  I will test it out when I get home and crossing my
finger I hope it works.  I have to have this done tomorrow (deadline).  They
only gave me three days notice to set this up. 

-Original Message-
From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Would'nt you know it, one of my few posts to this list and its not about
exchange

Anyway I was going to setup a client with MS PPTP/RRAS Vpn behind a linksys
(same model), but discovered this Netopia R910 router (about $100 more)
supports PPTP VPN connections at the router.  Along with some nifty Router
to Router tunneling.

Just FYI (no connection to the company)
http://www.netopia.com/support/technotes/hardware/NQG_022.html

For what it's worth I think your 2nd VPN connection was failing because you
had only the 1 defined VPN port configured.

Allan

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Say I heard on the radio there were going to be solar flares today.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Don't blame it on a fluke...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Reboot it, run out of the server room as soon as you hit restart and go to
your desk. Then when someone complains say let me check on it. Then come
back and act like it was just a fluke. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I hate office time I want to restart the server cause I added another vpn
Port but I cant test it until everyone leave which around 8 oclock R

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

There is a FW in the router.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I connected the linksys router to my cable modem at home then I connected
the two laptops to the router.  I got internet connection with them.  Then
when I connected one laptop to the VPN it worked.  And when I tried the
second one it gave me error 781:  Im not sure if there is a firewall in the
linksys router.  Otherwise Im not behind a firewall.


2598  Windows 2000 VPN connection generates error 781 - Encryption failed
because no valid certificate was found? When you attempt to establish a VPN
connection to a VPN server, you receive: Error 781 Encryption failed because
no valid certificate was found.

This can occur on a new connection or on one that previously worked.

The error is produced because the connection is incomplete. You should:

1. Verify basic network connectivity between the client and the server.

2. Make sure that you have name resolution between the client and the
server.

3. Use the Networking and TCP/IP troubleshooter in the Windows 2000 Help.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Oh, and you're running NAT on the Linux Firewall Router right?  What kind of
firewall is the VPN server sitting behind?  Some VPN connections don't work
over NAT.  That could be your biggest problem right there.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:22 PM
To: Exchange 

RE: I have no other place to go

2001-11-09 Thread Joyce, Louis

quickly Rich, i can here Don's toys falling from the pram!.


;)

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2001 15:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


So where's my Scooby snacks?!?!?!?!?!  That was one of the first things that
was mentioned...  I want my Scooby snacks!!!  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


It worked I had to only add another VPN port.  It was set to allow only one
caller to come in at a time.

Thanks for all your help guys.
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

I just added another VPN port and connected two users to the server.  I did
that with phone lines through the internet though .  I cant test the two
laptops that are connected to the router because they are at home connected
through a cable modem.  I will test it out when I get home and crossing my
finger I hope it works.  I have to have this done tomorrow (deadline).  They
only gave me three days notice to set this up. 

-Original Message-
From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Would'nt you know it, one of my few posts to this list and its not about
exchange

Anyway I was going to setup a client with MS PPTP/RRAS Vpn behind a linksys
(same model), but discovered this Netopia R910 router (about $100 more)
supports PPTP VPN connections at the router.  Along with some nifty Router
to Router tunneling.

Just FYI (no connection to the company)
http://www.netopia.com/support/technotes/hardware/NQG_022.html

For what it's worth I think your 2nd VPN connection was failing because you
had only the 1 defined VPN port configured.

Allan

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Say I heard on the radio there were going to be solar flares today.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Don't blame it on a fluke...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Reboot it, run out of the server room as soon as you hit restart and go to
your desk. Then when someone complains say let me check on it. Then come
back and act like it was just a fluke. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I hate office time I want to restart the server cause I added another vpn
Port but I cant test it until everyone leave which around 8 oclock R

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

There is a FW in the router.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I connected the linksys router to my cable modem at home then I connected
the two laptops to the router.  I got internet connection with them.  Then
when I connected one laptop to the VPN it worked.  And when I tried the
second one it gave me error 781:  Im not sure if there is a firewall in the
linksys router.  Otherwise Im not behind a firewall.


2598  Windows 2000 VPN connection generates error 781 - Encryption failed
because no valid certificate was found? When you attempt to establish a VPN
connection to a VPN server, you receive: Error 781 Encryption failed because
no valid certificate was found.

This can occur on a new connection or on one that previously worked.

The error is produced because the connection is incomplete. You should:

1. Verify basic network connectivity between the client and the server.

2. Make sure that you have name resolution between the client and the
server.

3. Use the Networking and TCP/IP troubleshooter in the Windows 2000 Help.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Oh, and you're 

RE: I have no other place to go

2001-11-09 Thread Don Ely

VBG

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


quickly Rich, i can here Don's toys falling from the pram!.


;)

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2001 15:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


So where's my Scooby snacks?!?!?!?!?!  That was one of the first things that
was mentioned...  I want my Scooby snacks!!!  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


It worked I had to only add another VPN port.  It was set to allow only one
caller to come in at a time.

Thanks for all your help guys.
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

I just added another VPN port and connected two users to the server.  I did
that with phone lines through the internet though .  I cant test the two
laptops that are connected to the router because they are at home connected
through a cable modem.  I will test it out when I get home and crossing my
finger I hope it works.  I have to have this done tomorrow (deadline).  They
only gave me three days notice to set this up. 

-Original Message-
From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Would'nt you know it, one of my few posts to this list and its not about
exchange

Anyway I was going to setup a client with MS PPTP/RRAS Vpn behind a linksys
(same model), but discovered this Netopia R910 router (about $100 more)
supports PPTP VPN connections at the router.  Along with some nifty Router
to Router tunneling.

Just FYI (no connection to the company)
http://www.netopia.com/support/technotes/hardware/NQG_022.html

For what it's worth I think your 2nd VPN connection was failing because you
had only the 1 defined VPN port configured.

Allan

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Say I heard on the radio there were going to be solar flares today.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Don't blame it on a fluke...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Reboot it, run out of the server room as soon as you hit restart and go to
your desk. Then when someone complains say let me check on it. Then come
back and act like it was just a fluke. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I hate office time I want to restart the server cause I added another vpn
Port but I cant test it until everyone leave which around 8 oclock R

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

There is a FW in the router.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I connected the linksys router to my cable modem at home then I connected
the two laptops to the router.  I got internet connection with them.  Then
when I connected one laptop to the VPN it worked.  And when I tried the
second one it gave me error 781:  Im not sure if there is a firewall in the
linksys router.  Otherwise Im not behind a firewall.


2598  Windows 2000 VPN connection generates error 781 - Encryption failed
because no valid certificate was found? When you attempt to establish a VPN
connection to a VPN server, you receive: Error 781 Encryption failed because
no valid certificate was found.

This can occur on a new connection or on one that previously worked.

The error is produced because the connection is incomplete. You should:

1. Verify basic network connectivity between the client and the server.

2. Make sure that you have name resolution between the client and the
server.

3. Use the Networking and TCP/IP troubleshooter in the Windows 2000 Help.



Re: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Kelly_Borndale


I am wearing my stilletto thigh high boots today... they can do some
damage, I think.  But, they are only 4  1/2 inches.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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From one lady on this list you could get the following response: Those
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9 inch high heels buddy ... those could do some serious damage


Martin

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 How about this..

 Nice shoes, wanna install a service pack?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 That's not flirting, those are bad pick up lines. At least use a good one
 like, can I buy you a drink so I start looking better?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off

 To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
Didn't
I
 see you the last time I saw you?


 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 What the hell is this all about ...?


 From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800
 
 
 Pah.
 [1]Your pun was worse than mine.
 [2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)
 
 [3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they
 say What the hell does that mean???
 
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk
 of Hitchin, please[1].
 
 Phil
 
 [1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
   well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
  
   /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
  
   OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you make sure all
   the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a
   house there??
  
   Nothing like putting people to work :)
  
   Regards
   E.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
  
   Phil
  
   [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
  
   -
   Phil Randal
   Network Engineer
   Herefordshire Council
   Hereford, UK
  
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 

RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread STEVE BROOK

This one will rattle a few cages!!

It has been suggested that most men would be pleased with 4 1/2
inches.UCH !

SB

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??



I am wearing my stilletto thigh high boots today... they can do some
damage, I think.  But, they are only 4  1/2 inches.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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From one lady on this list you could get the following response: Those
are
9 inch high heels buddy ... those could do some serious damage


Martin

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 How about this..

 Nice shoes, wanna install a service pack?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug 
 Hampshire
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 That's not flirting, those are bad pick up lines. At least use a good 
 one like, can I buy you a drink so I start looking better?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off

 To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
Didn't
I
 see you the last time I saw you?


 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 What the hell is this all about ...?


 From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800
 
 
 Pah.
 [1]Your pun was worse than mine.
 [2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)
 
 [3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they 
 say What the hell does that mean???
 
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk of 
 Hitchin, please[1].
 
 Phil
 
 [1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
   well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
  
   /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
  
   OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you make sure 
   all the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a 
   house there??
  
   Nothing like putting people to work :)
  
   Regards
   E.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
  
   Phil
  
   [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
  
   -
   Phil Randal
   Network Engineer
   Herefordshire Council
   Hereford, UK
  
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
life, love and the pursuit of 

RE: I have no other place to go

2001-11-09 Thread Tener, Richard

Don here is your Scooby snack

www.scoobysnacks.com




-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

So where's my Scooby snacks?!?!?!?!?!  That was one of the first things that
was mentioned...  I want my Scooby snacks!!!  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


It worked I had to only add another VPN port.  It was set to allow only one
caller to come in at a time.

Thanks for all your help guys.
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

I just added another VPN port and connected two users to the server.  I did
that with phone lines through the internet though .  I cant test the two
laptops that are connected to the router because they are at home connected
through a cable modem.  I will test it out when I get home and crossing my
finger I hope it works.  I have to have this done tomorrow (deadline).  They
only gave me three days notice to set this up.

-Original Message-
From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Would'nt you know it, one of my few posts to this list and its not about
exchange

Anyway I was going to setup a client with MS PPTP/RRAS Vpn behind a linksys
(same model), but discovered this Netopia R910 router (about $100 more)
supports PPTP VPN connections at the router.  Along with some nifty Router
to Router tunneling.

Just FYI (no connection to the company)
http://www.netopia.com/support/technotes/hardware/NQG_022.html

For what it's worth I think your 2nd VPN connection was failing because you
had only the 1 defined VPN port configured.

Allan

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Say I heard on the radio there were going to be solar flares today.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Don't blame it on a fluke...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Reboot it, run out of the server room as soon as you hit restart and go to
your desk. Then when someone complains say let me check on it. Then come
back and act like it was just a fluke. :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I hate office time I want to restart the server cause I added another vpn
Port but I cant test it until everyone leave which around 8 oclock R

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go

There is a FW in the router.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


I connected the linksys router to my cable modem at home then I connected
the two laptops to the router.  I got internet connection with them.  Then
when I connected one laptop to the VPN it worked.  And when I tried the
second one it gave me error 781:  Im not sure if there is a firewall in the
linksys router.  Otherwise Im not behind a firewall.


2598  Windows 2000 VPN connection generates error 781 - Encryption failed
because no valid certificate was found? When you attempt to establish a VPN
connection to a VPN server, you receive: Error 781 Encryption failed because
no valid certificate was found.

This can occur on a new connection or on one that previously worked.

The error is produced because the connection is incomplete. You should:

1. Verify basic network connectivity between the client and the server.

2. Make sure that you have name resolution between the client and the
server.

3. Use the Networking and TCP/IP troubleshooter in the Windows 2000 Help.


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I have no other place to go


Oh, and you're running NAT on the Linux Firewall Router right?  What kind of
firewall is the VPN server sitting 

RE: Haiku Friday

2001-11-09 Thread Tener, Richard

LOL

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

Richard Tener owes Scooby Snacks
To those who helped him
We want them now.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday



People are stupid
At least the ones around me
I am really doomed.


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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell



...it has also been suggested that most women wouldn't 

evil grin

E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


This one will rattle a few cages!!

It has been suggested that most men would be pleased with 4 1/2
inches.UCH !

SB

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??



I am wearing my stilletto thigh high boots today... they can do some
damage, I think.  But, they are only 4  1/2 inches.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor

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  |   cc:
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  |   Subject: Re: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list?


From one lady on this list you could get the following response: Those
are
9 inch high heels buddy ... those could do some serious damage


Martin

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 How about this..

 Nice shoes, wanna install a service pack?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 That's not flirting, those are bad pick up lines. At least use a good 
 one like, can I buy you a drink so I start looking better?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off

 To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
Didn't
I
 see you the last time I saw you?


 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

 What the hell is this all about ...?


 From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800
 
 
 Pah.
 [1]Your pun was worse than mine.
 [2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)
 
 [3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they 
 say What the hell does that mean???
 
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk of 
 Hitchin, please[1].
 
 Phil
 
 [1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
   well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
  
   /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
  
   OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you make sure 
   all the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a 
   house there??
  
   Nothing like putting people to work :)
  
   Regards
   E.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
  
   Phil
  
   [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
  
   -
   Phil Randal
   Network Engineer
   Herefordshire Council
   Hereford, UK
  
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
life, love and the pursuit of sensible threads on this list 
*wink*...
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
   
What's so funny young lady?
   
Regards
   
Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
   
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
   
Ha ha ha..rofl
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Fonts
   
e.
   
Well the email you have just sent doesn't contain any of those 
little quirks at the bottom anymore.
   
Regards
   
Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions
   
-Original Message-
From: Roberto Glavich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Fonts
   
I applied the patch in the 
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q273/6/15.ASP
article.
   But it seems not to have worked.
  
   /Roberto

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OWA Redirect

2001-11-09 Thread David S. Pomerantz

Hay Guys and Gals (Ms. Kelly, Ms.Elizabeth), 

What was the end result to redirecting http://severname/exchange to
http://severname ? or even spoofing the real servername by adding a
phony name and redirecting to the correct name. 


David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
Network Systems Engineer
City of Hallandale Beach


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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Kim Cameron

fine.  now, do you suppose you could take this charming conversation
elsewhere?  i don't think there was ever a consensus that you could
commandeer this list to any topic simply by putting OT: in in the subject
line.

i promise to take it on faith that all of you are quite capable of being
thoroughly bawdy and repugnant, though in your fumbling, geeky way.  so will
you hush?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Farrell
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??




...it has also been suggested that most women wouldn't

evil grin

E.



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RE: OWA Redirect

2001-11-09 Thread Martin Blackstone

We all talked about it, then went out for fish tacos and beer. Ms Kelly
danced on the table.
A good time was had by all.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David S.
Pomerantz
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA Redirect
Sensitivity: Confidential


Hay Guys and Gals (Ms. Kelly, Ms.Elizabeth), 

What was the end result to redirecting http://severname/exchange to
http://severname ? or even spoofing the real servername by adding a
phony name and redirecting to the correct name. 


David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
Network Systems Engineer
City of Hallandale Beach


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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


#OOooohhhwho popped their cogs and made you the list owner?

-Original Message-
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Sent: 09 November 2001 07:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


fine.  now, do you suppose you could take this charming conversation
elsewhere?  i don't think there was ever a consensus that you could
commandeer this list to any topic simply by putting OT: in in the subject
line.

i promise to take it on faith that all of you are quite capable of being
thoroughly bawdy and repugnant, though in your fumbling, geeky way.  so will
you hush?


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...it has also been suggested that most women wouldn't

evil grin

E.



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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Mike Carlson

Is that a 20GB IMS or are you just happy to see me?

Happy POETS Day!

Mike

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#OOooohhhwho popped their cogs and made you the list owner?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 09 November 2001 07:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


fine.  now, do you suppose you could take this charming conversation
elsewhere?  i don't think there was ever a consensus that you could
commandeer this list to any topic simply by putting OT: in in the
subject line.

i promise to take it on faith that all of you are quite capable of being
thoroughly bawdy and repugnant, though in your fumbling, geeky way.  so
will you hush?


-Original Message-
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Farrell
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...it has also been suggested that most women wouldn't

evil grin

E.



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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Kim Cameron

i know you're new here, but you should really read the archives - there are
several years worth of this particular conversation, repeated at two month
intervals, practically verbatim.  please don't bore everyone by making us
repeat it again - go read the archives.


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#OOooohhhwho popped their cogs and made you the list owner?

-Original Message-
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Sent: 09 November 2001 07:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


fine.  now, do you suppose you could take this charming conversation
elsewhere?  i don't think there was ever a consensus that you could
commandeer this list to any topic simply by putting OT: in in the subject
line.

i promise to take it on faith that all of you are quite capable of being
thoroughly bawdy and repugnant, though in your fumbling, geeky way.  so will
you hush?


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...it has also been suggested that most women wouldn't

evil grin

E.



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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Autumn has arrived
Leaves float from the trees above
Falling like tech stocks.

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 Subject: Haiku Friday
 
 
 
 People are stupid
 At least the ones around me
 I am really doomed.
 
 
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Flirtatious Haiku Friday

2001-11-09 Thread Randal, Phil

To flirt on this list
Is really out of order
I am a culprit

Phil :-)

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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Off topic banter
Like a Late Afternoon breeze
Stirs, then fades away

 -Original Message-
 From: Kim Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 i know you're new here, but you should really read the 
 archives - there are several years worth of this particular 
 conversation, repeated at two month intervals, practically 
 verbatim.  please don't bore everyone by making us repeat it 
 again - go read the archives.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 Elizabeth Farrell
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:42 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 
 #OOooohhhwho popped their cogs and made you the list owner?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kim Cameron
 Sent: 09 November 2001 07:43
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 fine.  now, do you suppose you could take this charming 
 conversation elsewhere?  i don't think there was ever a 
 consensus that you could commandeer this list to any topic 
 simply by putting OT: in in the subject line.
 
 i promise to take it on faith that all of you are quite 
 capable of being thoroughly bawdy and repugnant, though in 
 your fumbling, geeky way.  so will you hush?
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 Elizabeth Farrell
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 
 
 ...it has also been suggested that most women wouldn't
 
 evil grin
 
 E.
 
 
 
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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Denis Baldwin

4 1/2 is enough to kill someone if used to puncture the right organ :)

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
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I am wearing my stilletto thigh high boots today... they can do some
damage, I think.  But, they are only 4  1/2 inches.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
One man's ceiling is another man's floor


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From one lady on this list you could get the following response: Those
are
9 inch high heels buddy ... those could do some serious damage


Martin

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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 How about this..

 Nice shoes, wanna install a service pack?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 That's not flirting, those are bad pick up lines. At least use a good one
 like, can I buy you a drink so I start looking better?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off

 To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
Didn't
I
 see you the last time I saw you?


 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 What the hell is this all about ...?


 From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800
 
 
 Pah.
 [1]Your pun was worse than mine.
 [2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)
 
 [3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they
 say What the hell does that mean???
 
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk
 of Hitchin, please[1].
 
 Phil
 
 [1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
   well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
  
   /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
  
   OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you make sure all
   the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a
   house there??
  
   Nothing like putting people to work :)
  
   Regards
   E.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
  
   Phil
  
   [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
  
   -
   Phil Randal
   Network Engineer
   Herefordshire Council
   Hereford, UK
  
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  

RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Kim Cameron

oh, pul-leeze.  you don't know anything about me, and you've only been on
the list a couple of weeks.  i'm not uptight, quite possibly scads more
*fun* than you might imagine.  you really don't need to worry about
embarrassing me on the exchange list.  i'm not exactly quaking in my boots
at the prospect that some of the people here think i'm a bitch - it's a
reputation i've cultivated in earnest.

you can't possibly have read the archives, or you'd know that boring drivel
like this thread is what has driven away most of the helpful technical
people over the years.  ultimately, that decreases the likelihood that
interesting exchange discussions will take place.

besides, it's friday, and the minimum daily requirement of fish taco haiku
has not been met.  of course, mention of Kelly's boots should always be
worked in if possible.


-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 5:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

I read the technical archives long ago thanks for the rec.

Don't really care to read others whingey opinions about what should be
posted on an open list.
You might care to notice that I help a lot of people, as you do as well as
being the perpetrator of a lot of fun on the list.

If you're too uptight to appreciate a bit of fun, I am sure that someone
would be only too glad to give you detailed instruction about how to guide
all OT mails or mails from me if you prefer into your wastebin.

I'm posting to you off-list because a lot of people have written to me
privately to warn me what an ass you are and I feel you are only
embarrassing yourself continuing this conversation on in an open forum.

E.



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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Jim Helfer


 A reputation I've cultivated in earnest

  That's a great line.

  Jim 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


oh, pul-leeze.  you don't know anything about me, and you've only been on
the list a couple of weeks.  i'm not uptight, quite possibly scads more
*fun* than you might imagine.  you really don't need to worry about
embarrassing me on the exchange list.  i'm not exactly quaking in my boots
at the prospect that some of the people here think i'm a bitch - it's a
reputation i've cultivated in earnest.

you can't possibly have read the archives, or you'd know that boring drivel
like this thread is what has driven away most of the helpful technical
people over the years.  ultimately, that decreases the likelihood that
interesting exchange discussions will take place.

besides, it's friday, and the minimum daily requirement of fish taco haiku
has not been met.  of course, mention of Kelly's boots should always be
worked in if possible.

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Mail not flowing in mixed site

2001-11-09 Thread MS Exchange Forum

I added the first Exchange 2000 server to our Org... The ADC is working
properly... I see new mailboxes that are added to 5.5 as well as 2000.

The problem I'm having is that when I try to send a message from a mailbox
on the Exch 5.5 server to a mailbox on the Exch 2000 server I get the
following error.


+
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

Subject: test
Sent: 11/7/01 3:53 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

Andrew Fletcher on 11/7/01 3:53 PM
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=ORG;l=SERVER-011107205237Z-69415
MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:CORPEXCH:ISNT1
+

I see the Exch 2000 mailbox in my Exch 5.5 GAL... It's almost like the link
between the two Exchange server is not running... Again, this is a Mixed
site 2000 and 5.5 and the connection should be seamless. Right?

Help! grin

Thanks,

Kevin Fletcher



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RE: OWA Redirect

2001-11-09 Thread Erik Sojka

We could tell you but we've been asked to keep it confidential.

 -Original Message-
 From: David S. Pomerantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:37 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: OWA Redirect
 Sensitivity: Confidential
 
 
 Hay Guys and Gals (Ms. Kelly, Ms.Elizabeth), 
 
 What was the end result to redirecting 
 http://severname/exchange to  http://severname ? or even 
 spoofing the real servername by 
 adding a phony name and redirecting to the correct name. 
 
 
 David S. Pomerantz, MCT, MCSE
 Network Systems Engineer
 City of Hallandale Beach
 
 
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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Randal, Phil

Two stroppy ladies
clashing on the list today
Oh how amusing

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 09 November 2001 16:18
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 
  A reputation I've cultivated in earnest
 
   That's a great line.
 
   Jim 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kim Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:13 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 oh, pul-leeze.  you don't know anything about me, and you've 
 only been on
 the list a couple of weeks.  i'm not uptight, quite possibly 
 scads more
 *fun* than you might imagine.  you really don't need to worry about
 embarrassing me on the exchange list.  i'm not exactly 
 quaking in my boots
 at the prospect that some of the people here think i'm a 
 bitch - it's a
 reputation i've cultivated in earnest.
 
 you can't possibly have read the archives, or you'd know that 
 boring drivel
 like this thread is what has driven away most of the helpful technical
 people over the years.  ultimately, that decreases the likelihood that
 interesting exchange discussions will take place.
 
 besides, it's friday, and the minimum daily requirement of 
 fish taco haiku
 has not been met.  of course, mention of Kelly's boots should 
 always be
 worked in if possible.
 
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RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Does mail flow the other way?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: MS Exchange Forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Mail not flowing in mixed site
 
 
 I added the first Exchange 2000 server to our Org... The ADC 
 is working properly... I see new mailboxes that are added to 
 5.5 as well as 2000.
 
 The problem I'm having is that when I try to send a message 
 from a mailbox on the Exch 5.5 server to a mailbox on the 
 Exch 2000 server I get the following error.
 
 
 +
 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
 
 Subject: test
 Sent: 11/7/01 3:53 PM
 
 The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
 
 Andrew Fletcher on 11/7/01 3:53 PM
 The recipient name is not recognized
 The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
 ;p=ORG;l=SERVER-011107205237Z-69415
 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:CORPEXCH:ISNT1
 +
 
 I see the Exch 2000 mailbox in my Exch 5.5 GAL... It's almost 
 like the link between the two Exchange server is not 
 running... Again, this is a Mixed site 2000 and 5.5 and the 
 connection should be seamless. Right?
 
 Help! grin
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kevin Fletcher
 
 
 
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Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Denis Baldwin

Hello all,

I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When they
do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
ideas?

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
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RE: Conference Server

2001-11-09 Thread Bauer, Mr. Rick

The prevailing thought from previous postings is that this may be a
version 1.0 product, needing some upgrades and help before it deserves
serious consideration. That information is strictly hearsay, however; I
would appreciate hearing from someone who actually ran the product and
see if it might meet some needs for low-cost, same-campus video
conferencing capabilities. We have a free copy of the software sitting
on the shelf and wonder if it's worth the pain of install, config,
etc.(I know, besides the ***sheer joy of learning***, which is what
we're supposed to be about at a school)

Rick Bauer
The Hill School


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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Conference Server


I am embarking on a journey to install the Conference Server with
Exchange 2000 and would like to know your thoughts. What are some things
to look out for or some major benefits, other then the obvious one of
have the flexibility of an in house conference server.

Thanks.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Erik Sojka

Possibly filled with
Jell-O brand gelatin.  I 
now type with one hand.

 -Original Message-
 From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:39 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 We need a nice ring
 Filled with mud or similar
 Let the fun begin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randal, Phil
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:34 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 
 Two stroppy ladies
 clashing on the list today
 Oh how amusing
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 09 November 2001 16:18
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
  
  
  
   A reputation I've cultivated in earnest
  
That's a great line.
  
Jim
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Kim Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:13 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
  
  
  oh, pul-leeze.  you don't know anything about me, and you've
  only been on
  the list a couple of weeks.  i'm not uptight, quite possibly 
  scads more
  *fun* than you might imagine.  you really don't need to worry about
  embarrassing me on the exchange list.  i'm not exactly 
  quaking in my boots
  at the prospect that some of the people here think i'm a 
  bitch - it's a
  reputation i've cultivated in earnest.
  
  you can't possibly have read the archives, or you'd know that
  boring drivel
  like this thread is what has driven away most of the 
 helpful technical
  people over the years.  ultimately, that decreases the 
 likelihood that
  interesting exchange discussions will take place.
  
  besides, it's friday, and the minimum daily requirement of
  fish taco haiku
  has not been met.  of course, mention of Kelly's boots should 
  always be
  worked in if possible.
  
 
 
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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Doug Hampshire

Kelly, I need some new pictures to put on your site. Today sounds like a
good day for photos.

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:31 AM
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Subject: Re: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??



I am wearing my stilletto thigh high boots today... they can do some damage,
I think.  But, they are only 4  1/2 inches.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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From one lady on this list you could get the following response: Those
are
9 inch high heels buddy ... those could do some serious damage


Martin

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 How about this..

 Nice shoes, wanna install a service pack?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug 
 Hampshire
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 That's not flirting, those are bad pick up lines. At least use a good 
 one like, can I buy you a drink so I start looking better?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 Flirting?  Ok, I'll start it off

 To all the women out there.What's your sign?  Come here often?
Didn't
I
 see you the last time I saw you?


 Bill Lambert
 Endoxy Healthcare
 847-941-9206
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


 What the hell is this all about ...?


 From: Elizabeth Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:46:01 -0800
 
 
 Pah.
 [1]Your pun was worse than mine.
 [2]Who's flirting??? I'm serious :)
 
 [3] If you can't stand the heat.get outta Hitchin', or so they 
 say What the hell does that mean???
 
 
 E.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
 It herts me to say this, but I'm in Hereford.  No more talk of 
 Hitchin, please[1].
 
 Phil
 
 [1] That's taking flirtation a little too far :-)
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Subject: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??
 
   well it is an 'Exchange' list after all.
  
   /me ducks in anticipation of rotten tomatoes..
  
   OOoh as you work for the Herts county council, can you make sure 
   all the services in Hitchin work properly as I have just bought a 
   house there??
  
   Nothing like putting people to work :)
  
   Regards
   E.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
   Are flirtatious exchanges [1] within the remit of this list? ;-)
  
   Phil
  
   [1] Does Microsoft sell those?
  
   -
   Phil Randal
   Network Engineer
   Herefordshire Council
   Hereford, UK
  
-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Giggle (was:RE: Fonts)
  
life, love and the pursuit of sensible threads on this list 

Re: Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Tony Hlabse

Did you try opening his account from another workstation? Maybe someone
applied the SP2 patch for Office 2000 on his machine.

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: Losing Attachments?


 Hello all,

 I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
 clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
 internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
 Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
 attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When
they
 do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
 ideas?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Denis Baldwin

I haven't tried opening his account on another machine, but I will do that
now.  No one applied any SPs to his machine yet, it's a default Office2k
install.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Losing Attachments?


Did you try opening his account from another workstation? Maybe someone
applied the SP2 patch for Office 2000 on his machine.

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: Losing Attachments?


 Hello all,

 I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
 clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
 internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
 Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
 attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When
they
 do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
 ideas?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


Try sending different types of attachment through this persons account.
Plain text TNEF, HTML formatting, *.vbs etc.

Try http://www.exinternals.com/Ex2K-SP2.htm for more info. on SP2 if it
turns out to be certain attachments that are consistently blocked.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

I haven't tried opening his account on another machine, but I will do that
now.  No one applied any SPs to his machine yet, it's a default Office2k
install.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Losing Attachments?

Did you try opening his account from another workstation? Maybe someone
applied the SP2 patch for Office 2000 on his machine.

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Losing Attachments?


 Hello all,

 I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
 clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
 internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
 Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
 attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When
they
 do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
 ideas?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Joyce, Louis

E,

Didn't he say he was running Ex 5.5 with Outlook 2000?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 November 2001 00:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?



Try sending different types of attachment through this persons account.
Plain text TNEF, HTML formatting, *.vbs etc.

Try http://www.exinternals.com/Ex2K-SP2.htm for more info. on SP2 if it
turns out to be certain attachments that are consistently blocked.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

I haven't tried opening his account on another machine, but I will do that
now.  No one applied any SPs to his machine yet, it's a default Office2k
install.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Losing Attachments?

Did you try opening his account from another workstation? Maybe someone
applied the SP2 patch for Office 2000 on his machine.

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Losing Attachments?


 Hello all,

 I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
 clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
 internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
 Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
 attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When
they
 do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
 ideas?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: NDR and Relaying Problems

2001-11-09 Thread Nizar El-Assaad

Thank you Chris for your reply, but it seems to me that the error message is
originating from my server and not from the ISP's relay server, or is it
not?

As far as using DNS for outbound mail, unfortunately this configuration is
not working properly when using internet mail over a dial-up connection, as
a lot of times, messages cannot be delivered because the recipient domain
name host cannot be resolved. I have noticed this behavior on all servers
where Exchange IMS uses dial-up to deliver outbound mail.

Best Regards
Nizar El-Assaad


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NDR and Relaying Problems


Call your ISP and tell them they are non-compliant with the relevant RFCs.
Or configure your server to deliver mail using DNS.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Nizar El-Assaad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:59 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: NDR and Relaying Problems
 
 
 Hello
 
 Ever since I installed Exchange 5.5 sp4, my server can longer
 send NDRs. Whenever a message reaches the server with a bad 
 address, and the server tries to send back an NDR, I get the 
 following error message: The following recipients did not 
 receive the attached mail. Reasons are listed with each
 recipient: originator originator MSEXCH:IMS:ANZIMA 
 S.A.L.:ANZIMA:YASMINA 3550 (000B09AA) 550 relaying mail to 
 [originator domain] is not allowed.
 
 My server is Yasmina, and my organization/site is Anzima.
 
 For outbound mail, I set Exchange to forward all messages to
 my ISP SMTP server, because if I use DNS, a lot of messages 
 fail to be delivered (I have a dial-up connection).
 
 Thank you for your help.
 
 Best Regards
 Nizar El-Assaad
 
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RE: Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell



Ahh sorry Denis, one foot out the door to the pub and one mind not on
the ball, nearly made it :)
Meant O2K Sp2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechn
ol/office/support/fixes/off2ksp2.asp

The little beastie that stopped everyone in our office from receiving *.vbs
files for 1/2 a day according to the sys admin. It has the receiving of
*.vbs and one or two other file types turned off by default I think

Hope this helps
Regards
E.

Can I go for my pint now Louis

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

E,

Didn't he say he was running Ex 5.5 with Outlook 2000?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




Aahhh, sorry

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

Try sending different types of attachment through this persons account.
Plain text TNEF, HTML formatting, *.vbs etc.

Try http://www.exinternals.com/Ex2K-SP2.htm for more info. on SP2 if it
turns out to be certain attachments that are consistently blocked.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

I haven't tried opening his account on another machine, but I will do that
now.  No one applied any SPs to his machine yet, it's a default Office2k
install.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Losing Attachments?

Did you try opening his account from another workstation? Maybe someone
applied the SP2 patch for Office 2000 on his machine.

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Losing Attachments?


 Hello all,

 I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
 clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
 internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
 Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
 attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When
they
 do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
 ideas?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Joyce, Louis

Yep Have one on me.

Oh, i didnt mean it  like...errm. Oh no.

Here we go again!

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 November 2001 01:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?




Ahh sorry Denis, one foot out the door to the pub and one mind not on
the ball, nearly made it :)
Meant O2K Sp2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechn
ol/office/support/fixes/off2ksp2.asp

The little beastie that stopped everyone in our office from receiving *.vbs
files for 1/2 a day according to the sys admin. It has the receiving of
*.vbs and one or two other file types turned off by default I think

Hope this helps
Regards
E.

Can I go for my pint now Louis

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

E,

Didn't he say he was running Ex 5.5 with Outlook 2000?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




Aahhh, sorry

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

Try sending different types of attachment through this persons account.
Plain text TNEF, HTML formatting, *.vbs etc.

Try http://www.exinternals.com/Ex2K-SP2.htm for more info. on SP2 if it
turns out to be certain attachments that are consistently blocked.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

I haven't tried opening his account on another machine, but I will do that
now.  No one applied any SPs to his machine yet, it's a default Office2k
install.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Losing Attachments?

Did you try opening his account from another workstation? Maybe someone
applied the SP2 patch for Office 2000 on his machine.

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Losing Attachments?


 Hello all,

 I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
 clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
 internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
 Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
 attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When
they
 do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
 ideas?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Seriously been tasked with this

2001-11-09 Thread Mark Harford

Since you already have the MS licenses, could you have a totally separate
standby forest configured with just a couple of DC/GCs and one E2K box
with very strict mailbox limits?  Presumably it's not a breach of licensing
to have standby/recovery servers so you are just stretching that point a
little.

This would work nicely with your Outlook Express idea as well.

Mark H
x50668


-Original Message-
From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 09 November 2001 13:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Seriously been tasked with this


Happy Friday to all. I should have saved this for a Monday morning as I'm
sure it's going to bring many laughs and many people saying that this is
absolutely crazy. I've been tasked with this though and I thus have to come
up with a solution and pricing for the solution. I doubt it is anything that
will seriously be implemented but here is the job at hand.

I'm running Exchange 2000 with all incoming mail coming in through a Mail
Marshal mail gateway. We had a situation a few months ago in which we had
major AD replication issues that cause DCs/GCs to respond very slowly and in
some cases not respond as DCs/GCs at all. This caused Exchange to be
unusable and for all practical purposes we were in a network down situation
for 3 days with Microsoft in house working the issue with us. As we all know
if AD is down then Exchange is down also.

The task is to make sending, receiving and access to recent emails available
in the event of another network down situation. Obviously if the physical
network is down this is impossible but if Exchange goes down then they want
email to be available in some way. Since E2K relies on AD I figure this
secondary access can not include E2K.

My thought, and I don't think the money could be justified, is that I have
some type of a POP server that no one ever logs into. I would have a mailbox
for each user on that POP server and every message coming in from the
internet would be forward from the gateway to Exchange like it currently is
and a copy also sent to the POP server. The POP server would then need the
functionality to automatically delete any emails over a certain age. In the
event of Exchange being down we could notify everyone to open Outlook
Express which we would have preconfigured through policy to point to the POP
server and the users would be functional with respect to email. 

I'm prepared for some interesting responses to this crazy idea.

Dave Cook
Exchange Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
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RE: Losing Attachments?

2001-11-09 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


Careful there Louis, you'll have the wrath of the righteous down on you. :)
I'm away.

Enjoy your wk-end.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joyce, Louis
Sent: 09 November 2001 09:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?


Yep Have one on me.

Oh, i didnt mean it  like...errm. Oh no.

Here we go again!

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 November 2001 01:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?




Ahh sorry Denis, one foot out the door to the pub and one mind not on
the ball, nearly made it :)
Meant O2K Sp2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/prodtechn
ol/office/support/fixes/off2ksp2.asp

The little beastie that stopped everyone in our office from receiving *.vbs
files for 1/2 a day according to the sys admin. It has the receiving of
*.vbs and one or two other file types turned off by default I think

Hope this helps
Regards
E.

Can I go for my pint now Louis

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

E,

Didn't he say he was running Ex 5.5 with Outlook 2000?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




Aahhh, sorry

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

Try sending different types of attachment through this persons account.
Plain text TNEF, HTML formatting, *.vbs etc.

Try http://www.exinternals.com/Ex2K-SP2.htm for more info. on SP2 if it
turns out to be certain attachments that are consistently blocked.

Regards
E.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Losing Attachments?

I haven't tried opening his account on another machine, but I will do that
now.  No one applied any SPs to his machine yet, it's a default Office2k
install.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Losing Attachments?

Did you try opening his account from another workstation? Maybe someone
applied the SP2 patch for Office 2000 on his machine.

- Original Message -
From: Denis Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Losing Attachments?


 Hello all,

 I have this very strange issue with my Exchange server and one of my
 clients. We have 40 clients all together. All of them can send attachments
 internally and externally without a problem, except one. All of them run
 Outlook 2000 on an Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. This trouble user can get
 attachments from anywhere but can't send them out or forward them. When
they
 do send them, the messages comes through but strips the attachment. Any
 ideas?

 Denis

 Denis A. Baldwin
 Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
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MS Access

2001-11-09 Thread Blair LCpl Jeston C

I just finished writing a program in access and Im trying to get the
switchboard form that I created to be the first form that the user sees when
he opens up the program.  Im really not sure how to do this.  Can anybody
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RE: MS Access

2001-11-09 Thread Martin Blackstone

You need to upgrade to Exch2000.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blair LCpl
Jeston C
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MS Access


I just finished writing a program in access and Im trying to get the
switchboard form that I created to be the first form that the user sees
when he opens up the program.  Im really not sure how to do this.  Can
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RE: MS Access

2001-11-09 Thread Tom Meunier

It's under Tools  Startup  Display Form Page from the main database
page.  Real easy to select which form you want.  Also, this isn't an MS
Access list.

 -Original Message-
 From: Blair LCpl Jeston C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:16 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: MS Access
 Subject: MS Access
 
 
 I just finished writing a program in access and Im trying to get the
 switchboard form that I created to be the first form that the 
 user sees when
 he opens up the program.  Im really not sure how to do this.  
 Can anybody
 help???
 
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RE: MS Access

2001-11-09 Thread Blair LCpl Jeston C

I do have EX2K

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Access


You need to upgrade to Exch2000.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blair LCpl
Jeston C
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MS Access


I just finished writing a program in access and Im trying to get the
switchboard form that I created to be the first form that the user sees
when he opens up the program.  Im really not sure how to do this.  Can
anybody help???

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RE: MS Access

2001-11-09 Thread Blair LCpl Jeston C

Thanks, we got it.  I know it isnt an MS Access list, but figured somebody
might know.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Access


It's under Tools  Startup  Display Form Page from the main database
page.  Real easy to select which form you want.  Also, this isn't an MS
Access list.

 -Original Message-
 From: Blair LCpl Jeston C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:16 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: MS Access
 Subject: MS Access
 
 
 I just finished writing a program in access and Im trying to get the
 switchboard form that I created to be the first form that the 
 user sees when
 he opens up the program.  Im really not sure how to do this.  
 Can anybody
 help???
 
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new Exchange book

2001-11-09 Thread Kim Cameron

eff-why-aye:

autumn:  Jim McBee
pens new e2k book called
24seven


http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0782127975vm=

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0782127975/qid=1005091741/sr=8-1/ref=
sr_8_3_1/002-2534583-1266469  (link may wrap).



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RE: NDR and Relaying Problems

2001-11-09 Thread Chris Scharff

Your server is reporting the error, not generating it.. Turn up logging on
your IMS to see exactly what is being sent or try sending a message to the
ISP's mail server from the Exchange server using a null sender.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Nizar El-Assaad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:01 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NDR and Relaying Problems
 
 
 Thank you Chris for your reply, but it seems to me that the 
 error message is originating from my server and not from the 
 ISP's relay server, or is it not?
 
 As far as using DNS for outbound mail, unfortunately this 
 configuration is not working properly when using internet 
 mail over a dial-up connection, as a lot of times, messages 
 cannot be delivered because the recipient domain name host 
 cannot be resolved. I have noticed this behavior on all 
 servers where Exchange IMS uses dial-up to deliver outbound mail.
 
 Best Regards
 Nizar El-Assaad
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: NDR and Relaying Problems
 
 
 Call your ISP and tell them they are non-compliant with the 
 relevant RFCs. Or configure your server to deliver mail using DNS.
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nizar El-Assaad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:59 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: NDR and Relaying Problems
  
  
  Hello
  
  Ever since I installed Exchange 5.5 sp4, my server can longer send 
  NDRs. Whenever a message reaches the server with a bad address, and 
  the server tries to send back an NDR, I get the following error 
  message: The following recipients did not receive the 
 attached mail. 
  Reasons are listed with each
  recipient: originator originator MSEXCH:IMS:ANZIMA
  S.A.L.:ANZIMA:YASMINA 3550 (000B09AA) 550 relaying mail to 
  [originator domain] is not allowed.
  
  My server is Yasmina, and my organization/site is Anzima.
  
  For outbound mail, I set Exchange to forward all messages to my ISP 
  SMTP server, because if I use DNS, a lot of messages fail to be 
  delivered (I have a dial-up connection).
  
  Thank you for your help.
  
  Best Regards
  Nizar El-Assaad
  
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Organizational Forms Permissions

2001-11-09 Thread Saul Gonzalez

Does anyone know how to give a standard user permissions to publish to
the Organizational Forms?

Thanks
Saul

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Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Desmond Witherspoon

To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
will help in the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Hunter, Lori

Are you related to Stephen (Wynkoop)?

-Original Message-
From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Actually, I was smart enough to test the patch first and didn't roll that
one out.  I was just voicing my opinion on Microsoft's business practices.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


How come you didn't discover this when you read the readme, or when you
were testing it? Or is it always easier to just blame someone else for
your mistakes?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wynkoop, John
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


I should have the option to block attachments or not!

Explanation:
Some of us (those who work for universities with stupid staff members
and arrogant professors) don't have the option of blocking attachments
(Gosh forbid we infringe on anyone's academic freedom).  That is
unless we wish to endure a never ending reign of sh*t from above.
Instead we have to work around the vunerabilities found in things such
as VBS, EXE, and COM files (which we have successfully done I might
add).  We managed to succesfully ward off NIMDA, Code Red, and a rash of
other recent viruses without changing what users can and can't do (see,
it can be done).  Now outlook just gives my users one more reason to
jump down my throat when something doesn't work.  Thanks MicroShaft.

John

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Even allowing your mail system to pass .EXE and .COM files is a mistake.
You should thank MS for making OL block those types of files since you
don't.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


For such a typically minor patch?
Where did you get that idea?

The Patch didnt break Outlook, your lack of preparation did.

Over and Out.

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


You know, it astounds me that so many IT people are blind to Microsoft's
incompetence!

BTW Mike, your 'car head light' analogy is not even relevant.  A more
apt analogy would refer to the Ford Pinto's with the exploding gas
tanks.  Sure the user could be mindful of driving only on roads with no
other vehicles, thereby preventing a back-end collision.  The 'solution'
in service patch 2 could be likened to Microsoft removing the gas tank
altogether.

First, I read about 70% of the material related to this service patch.
There are about 20 pages of material relating to this patch and since I
run a dept. with over 50 systems and 6 servers ON MY OWN (no help, not
even support contracts), I really don't have the time (nor is it humanly
possible) to read every patch/update/security document produced by
Microsoft alone (to say nothing about the 50+ other products I look
after).  No, I'm not whining!!

Simply put, this patch broke Outlook!!  An email program that cannot
accept
.com and .exe's is damaged!   Yes, yes, I know there are other methods
of
receiving files (such as zip'ed) but the point is that no other email
program such as Eudora, Groupwise, Netscape block these attachments. All
Microsoft had to do was to either disable the dangerous capabilities of
.asp,.vbs, (et al) code OR entirely block access to this code.  IT WAS
AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!  

Geezz, what's with some of you in this (supposed to be?) friendly
discussions group? 

I sent a message asking about this (yes, I admit it was confrontational)
and I read return responses basically calling me an idiot based on inane
assumptions!   

Of course, I had to risk installing this patch because the risk of an
Outlook-based virus outbreak out weighted the potential annoyance of
breaking Outlook.  BTW, I have never experienced a virus outbreak in the
6 years I've been with this company because of my pro-active stance on
these issues.

Message to Lori:
Project Plan and Test Plan Results???  For such a typically minor
patch? How many IT people do you have in your organization? The last
time I had the time to do anything like that was in 98/99 for Y2K. I'm
beginning to feel very small; am I the only IT person in this discussion
group with 

Frontend / Backend servers

2001-11-09 Thread Exchange Mailinglist


Hi there
I'm currently trying to setup a server to act as frontend for OWA users,
but I'm a bit lost about what to do.
The backend is running EXCH2K std edition, the frontend is enterprise. 
I guess I'll need to setup some kind of connector between those 2, but
unsure about what kind.

Hope someone will be able to give a hint or post an url with some more
info


Best regards

Sune Gellert

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RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Hunter, Lori

We have a vendor who's president executed that one at least three times
himself.  All in all I trapped it over 3000 times just from this one
company.  They used to be in here, probably still lurk, but after I posted
that long tale of stupidity they got rather quiet.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Users will open anything regardless of what you say.
I remember ILOVEYOU, and a user. I had sent out emails all day long
warning about this virus that had penetrated to a few machines before we
had the DAT file for it.
Anyhow, after an email an hour all day, I was talking to this guy about
it at his desk. As I am talking, he is looking at mail and opens it
right then! He had a laptop, and I ripped the PCCard NIC out, but too
late. He just stood there and stared at me, as I turned and ran for my
servers. Too late.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Yes you should and you do. Edit the registry.

No reason to blame MS for stupid people that open every
clickmetof*ckupyourcomputer.exe they get in an email.

When are people going to take responsibility for stupid stuff they do
and their own incompetence.

If you don't know how to drive are you going to blame the person that
runs into you? If you don't know how to use a shotgun are going to blame
the person who sold you the gun when you blow your arm off?

I am amazed all the time when we get new hires, that cant barely survive
without a sign on their desk reminding them to inhale and exhale
otherwise they will die, and throw them in front of a computer and they
have no clue. We had to send a tech down to help a person log into their
computer. They didn't know how to press CTRL+ALT+DEL. The keyboard had
CTL instead of CTRL on the key.

Or the other fabulous ones that reboot their computer and call us saying
their hard drive crashed when all they did was leave a non-bootable
floppy disk in the drive.

People need to take responsibility and face up to the fact that they are
computer illiterate or just plain dense when it comes to some of this
stuff.

Because people think they are computer geniuses even though they
couldn't tell the difference between \ and / companies like Microsoft
have to put in their application things like this patch.

My wife is a prime example. She will be the first to admint she doesn't
know anything about computers ecept for the applications that she uses
all the time. If I am logged into my computer and she needs it, she logs
into her own account because I have setup her account so that she cant
do any damage to the computer.

Don't blame MS. They are just responding to all the crap they got about
not being secure. If people wouldn't click on every stupid theng they
get via email, MS would ahev NEVER released that patch.

There is no one to blame but morons.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


I should have the option to block attachments or not!

Explanation:
Some of us (those who work for universities with stupid staff members
and arrogant professors) don't have the option of blocking attachments
(Gosh forbid we infringe on anyone's academic freedom).  That is
unless we wish to endure a never ending reign of sh*t from above.
Instead we have to work around the vunerabilities found in things such
as VBS, EXE, and COM files (which we have successfully done I might
add).  We managed to succesfully ward off NIMDA, Code Red, and a rash of
other recent viruses without changing what users can and can't do (see,
it can be done).  Now outlook just gives my users one more reason to
jump down my throat when something doesn't work.  Thanks MicroShaft.

John

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Even allowing your mail system to pass .EXE and .COM files is a mistake.
You should thank MS for making OL block those types of files since you
don't.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


For such a typically minor patch?
Where did you get that idea?

The Patch didnt break Outlook, your lack of preparation did.

Over and Out.

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL 

RE: Haiku Friday

2001-11-09 Thread Hunter, Lori

We changed reply-to
Now my posts don't show up here
This makes me worry  :(

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday



People are stupid
At least the ones around me
I am really doomed.


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RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??

2001-11-09 Thread Simon . Butler

mud fight,...

-Original Message-
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Sent: 09 November 2001 16:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT - flirtatiousness on THIS list??


Cat Fight!

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oh, pul-leeze.

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RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu

2001-11-09 Thread Hunter, Lori

Er, does anyone see four horsemen lurking about?  Especially in the
Manhattan area?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Well. I have absolutely no retort to this!


Andy



-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu



On a Server its one more thing that could go wrong. I stand by my first
comment.

Rachel
(Note to self... Where did I leave lace blouse that shows off
cleavage?)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


You must be using it wrong then.
Uncheck View as Web Page. Works Fine.

Respectfully leering
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


I hope you are kidding.
Active Desktop has never been, and is not now stable.
I would never recommend you turn that feature on. Ever.

respectfully lurking
rachel

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Or Maybe install IE with active Desktop and split the Logoff and Shutdown
menus...




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OWA 5.5

2001-11-09 Thread George Vijay

Dear All,

I wanted to have OWA5.5 for Exchange 2000 BE server. Can anyone advice
me how can I acheive this?

George Vijay

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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Denis Baldwin

Welcome to the biggest cat-fight-flirting-haiku-throwing-exchange-bash on
the planet.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Desmond
Witherspoon
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
will help in the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-11-09 Thread Soysal, Serdar


One more great Friday
Got db corruption here
Sucks to be me, eh?

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


We changed reply-to
Now my posts don't show up here
This makes me worry  :(

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:39 AM
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People are stupid
At least the ones around me
I am really doomed.


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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Soysal, Serdar

Hi.  Welcome.  Hey, take the time and go through the FAQs.  They'll help you
a bundle.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
will help in the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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RE: Organizational Forms Permissions

2001-11-09 Thread Soysal, Serdar


Organizational forms are just like public folders and they are under system
folders, eforms registry in Exchange Admin.

I hope by standard user you don't mean everybody in the company.

s.

-Original Message-
From: Saul Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Organizational Forms Permissions


Does anyone know how to give a standard user permissions to publish to
the Organizational Forms?

Thanks
Saul

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RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Hunter, Lori

Hey, I resemble THAT remark! 

I'm a full-fledged, card carrying hippie witch here, Eric.  I would have
voted for that policy and as an added bonus put pictures of the offenders
(wearing cap and shirt) on a bulletin board by the coffee machine.  Probably
posted on the intranet as well.

Damn conservatives.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


At my last job we proposed a security policy whereby any user who executed a
virus and infected the system would have to wear a dunce cap and a T-Shirt
that says I'm the idiot who opened the virus for a week.  It was almost
made policy.  Damn hippies shot it down...

- Original Message -
From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Exactly why MS has to create patches like this particular one.

Morons.

What would be cool is if you could put a lock on their mail box so that
when they open up Outlook there is an administrative message staring
them in the face. Before they could open any email they would have to
click OK and then retype what the administrative message was in a box
exactly as it was. If they don't get it right, they are prompted again.
If a new virus goes around the admin could put a lock on all mailboxes
until they perform those steps.

Kind like yelling at your kids. You tell them something and then you
make them repeat it back to you so that you realize they heard what you
said.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Users will open anything regardless of what you say.
I remember ILOVEYOU, and a user. I had sent out emails all day long
warning about this virus that had penetrated to a few machines before we
had the DAT file for it. Anyhow, after an email an hour all day, I was
talking to this guy about it at his desk. As I am talking, he is looking
at mail and opens it right then! He had a laptop, and I ripped the
PCCard NIC out, but too late. He just stood there and stared at me, as I
turned and ran for my servers. Too late.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


Yes you should and you do. Edit the registry.

No reason to blame MS for stupid people that open every
clickmetof*ckupyourcomputer.exe they get in an email.

When are people going to take responsibility for stupid stuff they do
and their own incompetence.

If you don't know how to drive are you going to blame the person that
runs into you? If you don't know how to use a shotgun are going to blame
the person who sold you the gun when you blow your arm off?

I am amazed all the time when we get new hires, that cant barely survive
without a sign on their desk reminding them to inhale and exhale
otherwise they will die, and throw them in front of a computer and they
have no clue. We had to send a tech down to help a person log into their
computer. They didn't know how to press CTRL+ALT+DEL. The keyboard had
CTL instead of CTRL on the key.

Or the other fabulous ones that reboot their computer and call us saying
their hard drive crashed when all they did was leave a non-bootable
floppy disk in the drive.

People need to take responsibility and face up to the fact that they are
computer illiterate or just plain dense when it comes to some of this
stuff.

Because people think they are computer geniuses even though they
couldn't tell the difference between \ and / companies like Microsoft
have to put in their application things like this patch.

My wife is a prime example. She will be the first to admint she doesn't
know anything about computers ecept for the applications that she uses
all the time. If I am logged into my computer and she needs it, she logs
into her own account because I have setup her account so that she cant
do any damage to the computer.

Don't blame MS. They are just responding to all the crap they got about
not being secure. If people wouldn't click on every stupid theng they
get via email, MS would ahev NEVER released that patch.

There is no one to blame but morons.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


I should have the option to block attachments or not!

Explanation:
Some of us (those who work for universities with stupid staff members
and arrogant professors) don't have the 

RE: OWA 5.5

2001-11-09 Thread Soysal, Serdar

I guess you can just specify the name of the E2K server when you're
installing OWA 5.5.  The question is: why on earth do you want to do this?

S.

-Original Message-
From: George Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA 5.5


Dear All,

I wanted to have OWA5.5 for Exchange 2000 BE server. Can anyone advice
me how can I acheive this?

George Vijay

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RE: OWA 5.5

2001-11-09 Thread Andrew Chan

Er...iirc, that can NOT be done.  

Andrew,
MCSE (NT  W2K) + CCNA


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Posted At: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:41 PM
Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
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Subject: OWA 5.5


Dear All,

I wanted to have OWA5.5 for Exchange 2000 BE server. Can anyone advice
me how can I acheive this?

George Vijay

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Re: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe

2001-11-09 Thread Eric Cooper

I'm a closet hippie, too - but when it comes to E-mail I'm a militant
fascist.  I was referring to E-mail hippies.  I hate em.  Real hippies are
groovy man.

- Original Message -
From: Hunter, Lori [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:05 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


 Hey, I resemble THAT remark!

 I'm a full-fledged, card carrying hippie witch here, Eric.  I would have
 voted for that policy and as an added bonus put pictures of the offenders
 (wearing cap and shirt) on a bulletin board by the coffee machine.
Probably
 posted on the intranet as well.

 Damn conservatives.

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


 At my last job we proposed a security policy whereby any user who executed
a
 virus and infected the system would have to wear a dunce cap and a T-Shirt
 that says I'm the idiot who opened the virus for a week.  It was almost
 made policy.  Damn hippies shot it down...

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:00 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


 Exactly why MS has to create patches like this particular one.

 Morons.

 What would be cool is if you could put a lock on their mail box so that
 when they open up Outlook there is an administrative message staring
 them in the face. Before they could open any email they would have to
 click OK and then retype what the administrative message was in a box
 exactly as it was. If they don't get it right, they are prompted again.
 If a new virus goes around the admin could put a lock on all mailboxes
 until they perform those steps.

 Kind like yelling at your kids. You tell them something and then you
 make them repeat it back to you so that you realize they heard what you
 said.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


 Users will open anything regardless of what you say.
 I remember ILOVEYOU, and a user. I had sent out emails all day long
 warning about this virus that had penetrated to a few machines before we
 had the DAT file for it. Anyhow, after an email an hour all day, I was
 talking to this guy about it at his desk. As I am talking, he is looking
 at mail and opens it right then! He had a laptop, and I ripped the
 PCCard NIC out, but too late. He just stood there and stared at me, as I
 turned and ran for my servers. Too late.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe


 Yes you should and you do. Edit the registry.

 No reason to blame MS for stupid people that open every
 clickmetof*ckupyourcomputer.exe they get in an email.

 When are people going to take responsibility for stupid stuff they do
 and their own incompetence.

 If you don't know how to drive are you going to blame the person that
 runs into you? If you don't know how to use a shotgun are going to blame
 the person who sold you the gun when you blow your arm off?

 I am amazed all the time when we get new hires, that cant barely survive
 without a sign on their desk reminding them to inhale and exhale
 otherwise they will die, and throw them in front of a computer and they
 have no clue. We had to send a tech down to help a person log into their
 computer. They didn't know how to press CTRL+ALT+DEL. The keyboard had
 CTL instead of CTRL on the key.

 Or the other fabulous ones that reboot their computer and call us saying
 their hard drive crashed when all they did was leave a non-bootable
 floppy disk in the drive.

 People need to take responsibility and face up to the fact that they are
 computer illiterate or just plain dense when it comes to some of this
 stuff.

 Because people think they are computer geniuses even though they
 couldn't tell the difference between \ and / companies like Microsoft
 have to put in their application things like this patch.

 My wife is a prime example. She will be the first to admint she doesn't
 know anything about computers ecept for the applications that she uses
 all the time. If I am logged into my computer and she needs it, she logs
 into her own account because I have setup her account so that she cant
 do any damage to the computer.

 Don't blame MS. They are just responding to all the crap they got about
 not being secure. If people wouldn't click on every stupid theng they
 get via email, MS would ahev NEVER 

RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Josefowski, Larry

And wear a cup, preferably fireproof.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


Hi.  Welcome.  Hey, take the time and go through the FAQs.  They'll help you
a bundle.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
will help in the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Barry Patterson

FAQs? HEHE
{Look at bottom of email}

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


Hi.  Welcome.  Hey, take the time and go through the FAQs.  They'll help you
a bundle.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
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With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my
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Desmond Witherspoon
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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Doug Hampshire

What did you expect, the Spanish Inquisition? Nobody expects the Spanish
Inquisition.

-Original Message-
From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys will help in
the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu

2001-11-09 Thread Andy David

Naw, even the horsemen have fled the city!


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Er, does anyone see four horsemen lurking about?  Especially in the
Manhattan area?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Well. I have absolutely no retort to this!


Andy



-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu



On a Server its one more thing that could go wrong. I stand by my first
comment.

Rachel
(Note to self... Where did I leave lace blouse that shows off
cleavage?)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


You must be using it wrong then.
Uncheck View as Web Page. Works Fine.

Respectfully leering
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


I hope you are kidding.
Active Desktop has never been, and is not now stable.
I would never recommend you turn that feature on. Ever.

respectfully lurking
rachel

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Removing 'Shut Down' from shutdown menu


Or Maybe install IE with active Desktop and split the Logoff and Shutdown
menus...




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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread blambert

The parrot's not deadhes...hessleeping!!

Bill Lambert
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


What did you expect, the Spanish Inquisition? Nobody expects the Spanish
Inquisition.

-Original Message-
From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys will help in
the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Desmond Witherspoon

Welcome to the biggest cat-fight-flirting-haiku-throwing-exchange-bash on
the planet -Denis Baldwin

Well, yeah that's what I meant

-Original Message-
From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


Welcome to the biggest cat-fight-flirting-haiku-throwing-exchange-bash on
the planet.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Desmond
Witherspoon
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
will help in the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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Upgrading to W2K

2001-11-09 Thread blambert

I want to upgrade an NT4 SP6a server with E5.5 Sp4 to W2K Server.  I want to
do a direct upgrade and not have to touch Exchange.  Has anyone done this
and if so are there any pitfalls to be aware of?  I plan to review TechNet
prior to doing it but I thought someone who as had the experience could
comment.

Thanks.




Bill Lambert, MCP,MCSE


Network Consultant
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Paul Bouzan

~ndi

Don't worry Desmond, Fridays are always like this.  They all get serious
from Monday onwards...

 Or so the King of the Potato People told me anyway

PBB


-Original Message-
From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 09 November 2001 19:06
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


Welcome to the biggest cat-fight-flirting-haiku-throwing-exchange-bash on
the planet -Denis Baldwin

Well, yeah that's what I meant

-Original Message-
From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


Welcome to the biggest cat-fight-flirting-haiku-throwing-exchange-bash on
the planet.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Desmond
Witherspoon
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
will help in the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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RE: Haiku Friday

2001-11-09 Thread Vivino, David

HP and Compaq
Executive Dilemma
Carly's gotta go

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday



One more great Friday
Got db corruption here
Sucks to be me, eh?

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


We changed reply-to
Now my posts don't show up here
This makes me worry  :(

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:39 AM
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Subject: Haiku Friday



People are stupid
At least the ones around me
I am really doomed.


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RE: Upgrading to W2K

2001-11-09 Thread Martin Blackstone

Upgrades suck. Period. I wouldn't waste my time unless you have some
specific business need.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:28 AM
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Subject: Upgrading to W2K


I want to upgrade an NT4 SP6a server with E5.5 Sp4 to W2K Server.  I
want to do a direct upgrade and not have to touch Exchange.  Has anyone
done this and if so are there any pitfalls to be aware of?  I plan to
review TechNet prior to doing it but I thought someone who as had the
experience could comment.

Thanks.




Bill Lambert, MCP,MCSE


Network Consultant
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: Hello All meet...the new guy

2001-11-09 Thread Denis Baldwin

Yeah, that's what I mean too :)

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Desmond
Witherspoon
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


Welcome to the biggest cat-fight-flirting-haiku-throwing-exchange-bash on
the planet -Denis Baldwin

Well, yeah that's what I meant

-Original Message-
From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hello All meet...the new guy


Welcome to the biggest cat-fight-flirting-haiku-throwing-exchange-bash on
the planet.

Denis

Denis A. Baldwin
Network Administrator, CAE. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Desmond
Witherspoon
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hello All meet...the new guy


To all,
Hey I just joined this list in the hopes that one of you guys
will help in the coming months with some updates and upgrades.

With that being said? How the hell is everybody? I received my 
first messages earlier this morning...and its not totally what 
I expected.

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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