Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery
No, it doesn't. I've asked our Exchange Admin about the SIS, but he is out sick today. Our current setup is quite stable now. I failed to mention we are running Exchange 2000. We also have an independent box on which we run the Perl scripts that do the automated jiggery pokery. At 02:45 PM 1/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: Doesn't play hell with your SIS? On 1/8/03 13:20, John W. Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey. We have multiple small exchange servers that do their backups to recovery servers that have several mirrored drives so no single production server has any of its backups on the same drive mirror. With our database size limit we have one recovery server for every three mail servers. In addition we have at least one hot spare mail server. When there is an outage we note which folks are affected and then recreate their (now empty) mailboxes on the recovery server to get them back into email. We then Exmerge the backed-up mail out of the backups into the new mailboxes. Some tlog juggling has to be done in order to recover all mail, but it is fairly strait forward. Each of our servers costs ~6K using off the shelf components. We learned the value of lots of small servers when our Dell PowerEdge equipment crapped out on us repeatedly early last year. You could probably do this with three servers, then. One for production, one for recovery/backups and one hot spare. Under your limit, though? Well, I guess that would depend on your shopping ability and the components you choose. John John W. Luther Systems Administrator Computing and Information Services University of Missouri - Rolla At 11:02 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Newsgroups wrote: I am not aware of a budget but when I mentioned the solution from Marathon Technologies they almost fell off their chairs. I think they want to spend somewhere from $3k to $7K (Not sure, as they have not told me anything). I told them that for that price the best thing they could do is have another server and do a daily restore of the database on that box and if the main server dies put up the new one instead. What do you think? Any other ideas? Thanks -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:48 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Exchange 2000 Recovery Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery Seamless, transparent, automatic and cheap? Don't believe such a high availability solution exists. Even overspeccing a single box to ensure it's fully redundant gets rather expensive on a per user basis for only 180 users. What are the actual requirements surrounding the solution and what budget has been proposed to implement it? On 1/8/03 12:27, Newsgroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking into different methods of recovery from Exchange 2000. I know there are several ways of doing this. We want to be able to recover w/ out any user interaction (by that we mean it would be transparent to them and they don't want to be down for 4 to 6 hours). We have about 180 users. I know we can cluster them but they don't want to go that route because of the cost. Will software or hardware replication work and be transparent or are there any other technologies that you may be aware of? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery
At 10:11 AM 1/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: No, it doesn't. I've asked our Exchange Admin about the SIS, but he is out sick today. Our current setup is quite stable now. [snip] I stand corrected by Jeff Edginton's better description of our system. John _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 2000 Recovery
We had frequent hardware failures when we had Exchange on the Dell hardware. That was the experience that led us to focus on designing a setup that would allow for fast and reliable recoveries. Now that we no longer use the Dell hardware for Exchange we have few problems. At 03:53 PM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: I'm more interested in how often he has hardware failures. It sounds like a common event! -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery Doesn't play hell with your SIS? On 1/8/03 13:20, John W. Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey. We have multiple small exchange servers that do their backups to recovery servers that have several mirrored drives so no single production server has any of its backups on the same drive mirror. With our database size limit we have one recovery server for every three mail servers. In addition we have at least one hot spare mail server. When there is an outage we note which folks are affected and then recreate their (now empty) mailboxes on the recovery server to get them back into email. We then Exmerge the backed-up mail out of the backups into the new mailboxes. Some tlog juggling has to be done in order to recover all mail, but it is fairly strait forward. Each of our servers costs ~6K using off the shelf components. We learned the value of lots of small servers when our Dell PowerEdge equipment crapped out on us repeatedly early last year. You could probably do this with three servers, then. One for production, one for recovery/backups and one hot spare. Under your limit, though? Well, I guess that would depend on your shopping ability and the components you choose. John John W. Luther Systems Administrator Computing and Information Services University of Missouri - Rolla At 11:02 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Newsgroups wrote: I am not aware of a budget but when I mentioned the solution from Marathon Technologies they almost fell off their chairs. I think they want to spend somewhere from $3k to $7K (Not sure, as they have not told me anything). I told them that for that price the best thing they could do is have another server and do a daily restore of the database on that box and if the main server dies put up the new one instead. What do you think? Any other ideas? Thanks -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:48 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Exchange 2000 Recovery Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery Seamless, transparent, automatic and cheap? Don't believe such a high availability solution exists. Even overspeccing a single box to ensure it's fully redundant gets rather expensive on a per user basis for only 180 users. What are the actual requirements surrounding the solution and what budget has been proposed to implement it? On 1/8/03 12:27, Newsgroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking into different methods of recovery from Exchange 2000. I know there are several ways of doing this. We want to be able to recover w/ out any user interaction (by that we mean it would be transparent to them and they don't want to be down for 4 to 6 hours). We have about 180 users. I know we can cluster them but they don't want to go that route because of the cost. Will software or hardware replication work and be transparent or are there any other technologies that you may be aware of? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com
RE: Exchange 2000 Recovery
Hey. We have multiple small exchange servers that do their backups to recovery servers that have several mirrored drives so no single production server has any of its backups on the same drive mirror. With our database size limit we have one recovery server for every three mail servers. In addition we have at least one hot spare mail server. When there is an outage we note which folks are affected and then recreate their (now empty) mailboxes on the recovery server to get them back into email. We then Exmerge the backed-up mail out of the backups into the new mailboxes. Some tlog juggling has to be done in order to recover all mail, but it is fairly strait forward. Each of our servers costs ~6K using off the shelf components. We learned the value of lots of small servers when our Dell PowerEdge equipment crapped out on us repeatedly early last year. You could probably do this with three servers, then. One for production, one for recovery/backups and one hot spare. Under your limit, though? Well, I guess that would depend on your shopping ability and the components you choose. John John W. Luther Systems Administrator Computing and Information Services University of Missouri - Rolla At 11:02 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Newsgroups wrote: I am not aware of a budget but when I mentioned the solution from Marathon Technologies they almost fell off their chairs. I think they want to spend somewhere from $3k to $7K (Not sure, as they have not told me anything). I told them that for that price the best thing they could do is have another server and do a daily restore of the database on that box and if the main server dies put up the new one instead. What do you think? Any other ideas? Thanks -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:48 AM Posted To: Exchange Newsgroups Conversation: Exchange 2000 Recovery Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 Recovery Seamless, transparent, automatic and cheap? Don't believe such a high availability solution exists. Even overspeccing a single box to ensure it's fully redundant gets rather expensive on a per user basis for only 180 users. What are the actual requirements surrounding the solution and what budget has been proposed to implement it? On 1/8/03 12:27, Newsgroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking into different methods of recovery from Exchange 2000. I know there are several ways of doing this. We want to be able to recover w/ out any user interaction (by that we mean it would be transparent to them and they don't want to be down for 4 to 6 hours). We have about 180 users. I know we can cluster them but they don't want to go that route because of the cost. Will software or hardware replication work and be transparent or are there any other technologies that you may be aware of? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http
Look at your Domain Controllers. We had a similar problem. We moved to Exchange as part of a University System-wide change. Our DCs were given to us preconfigured. After months of slow mail processing, and consulting with mSoft, we looked more closely at out DCs. They were woefully under powered and had far too little RAM. Upgrading the domain controllers, esp. the Global Catalogs, to dual processors with = Gig of Ram eliminated most of the delays. It's worth a look, at least. Good luck. John At 02:00 PM 1/2/2003 -0500, Jon Hill wrote: I recently resolved a performance problem by stopping and restarting the http cluster resource on our E2K cluster. I've been trying to figure out ever since why http would affect the server's performance. Around 9:15a users started complaining that e-mail seemed slow. I confirmed that messages were sitting in the Outbox for up to four minutes, and that other tasks like opening large folders and deleting messages were taking much longer than expected. After checking the usual suspects (nothing of note in the event log; cpu utilization was around 20%; comm between the cluster nodes was fine), I went into ESM and saw that the SMTP local delivery queue was holding between 20 and 40 messages. I traced a test message to myself and saw that it took five minutes to travel through the queue. It's rare for our queue to exceed 1, so that confirmed to me that something was wrong. After about an hour of fruitless snooping around, I sent a firmwide e-mail and tried stopping and restarting the SMTP cluster resource. That took forever (well, about 10 min) but when it was done the queue remained high. Next I tried the MTA cluster resource, but again, no luck. Then I restarted the HTTP cluster resource and the queue emptied out almost instantly. Users also immediately reported better performance. I know E2K works closely with IIS (ExIPC, e.g.) but IIS and HTTP are obviously not the identical, so I'm unsure why restarting HTTP would have such a dramatic effect. I've checked my E2K books, as well as technet and winnetmag.com, but http exchange 2000 is not exactly a narrow query. Any thoughts? E2K SP3 on W2K SP2. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: http
OK. Cool. They do look quite up to the task. At 02:40 PM 1/2/2003 -0500, Jon Hill wrote: Our DCs should be able to handle Exchange (three DCs with dual 1.24GHz and 1GB RAM for 300 users). This was a one-time problem. We hardly ever have performance problems like this. Thanks for the info. -Original Message- From: John W. Luther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: http Look at your Domain Controllers. We had a similar problem. We moved to Exchange as part of a University System-wide change. Our DCs were given to us preconfigured. After months of slow mail processing, and consulting with mSoft, we looked more closely at out DCs. They were woefully under powered and had far too little RAM. Upgrading the domain controllers, esp. the Global Catalogs, to dual processors with = Gig of Ram eliminated most of the delays. It's worth a look, at least. Good luck. John ... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Copying or merging a user's mailbox with another
How about using ExMerge to export the mailbox into a pst file, then importing it into the manager's mailbox via Outlook (or some other tool about which I've yet to learn)? John Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:58:01 -0500 Subject: Copying or merging a user's mailbox with another To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Anthony Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [header snip] Hi, I am running Exchange 2000 SP2. I need a way of copying the contents of one user's mailbox to another, on the same server. Preferably, specifying a folder in the destination mailbox for the old contents. The deal is, when people leave the company, their manager wants their old email. The admins want to delete the user id and mailbox for obvious reasons. We would like to do this on the server as opposed to on the client with pst files... Any ideas? Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John W. Luther Systems Administrator Computing and Information Services University of Missouri - Rolla Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The infamous Invalid data in message
TIFs can be large files. Perhaps it is the size of the attachment that is the problem. At 04:37 PM 7/24/2002 -0400, Stevens, Dave wrote: for the most part, these are scanned tif images and it is occurring with different destinations and senders. Maybe they don't like the tif format. -Original Message- From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The infamous Invalid data in message I didn't think it was the length of the Subject line just the content probably confused the heck out of the recieving machine so it rejected it. :o) -Original Message- From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The infamous Invalid data in message Is that a setting in Outlook? I have never had to mess with the mime settings..I was wondering about the Subject lineit is awfully longwould that effect the header of the message? -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The infamous Invalid data in message They need to disable 8 bit mime is my guess. -Original Message- From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The infamous Invalid data in message This subject has reared it's ugly head once again. There is very little documentation that I have found to help remedy this problem. Does anyone know how I can go about to troubleshoot this error? Thank you. Dave Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Invocation of Informal Dispute on the Missed Milestone for Ground water Operable Unit Record of Decision 1 (C-720) Signature McCracken Coun ty, Kentucky KY8-890-008-982_v1.TIF Sent: 7/22/2002 10:52 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 7/22/2002 10:53 AM Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=DOE;l=ORO-FOB-MX2N-020722155226Z-57677 MSEXCH:IMS:DOE:ORO:ORO-MAIL 3554 (000B09AA) 554 Invalid data in message I thought we had this fixed but it doesn't appear that it is. Give me a call. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John W. Luther Systems Administrator Computing and Information Services University of Missouri - Rolla Speak your mind, even if your voice shakes. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
