RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as well!

One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi client
installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that I could
imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm wondering if
it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?

Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as Windows 2000
doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?

regards,
Paul
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 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings 
 Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get 
 this right
 first time :-)
 
 I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to migrate the
 existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
 
 The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the 
 following:
 
 Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
 IIS removed
 IE6 SP1 installed
 Relevant Critical Updates
 Exchange service account in local admins group
 Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
 Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
 
 These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third 
 party software
 will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
 
 Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and 
 get going, but I
 guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
 obvious that
 I've forgotten?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Brian Ko
One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on your Exchange
server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and Exchange server
version.

Brian



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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as
well!

One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi
client
installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that I could
imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm wondering
if
it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?

Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as Windows 2000
doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings 
 Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get 
 this right
 first time :-)
 
 I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to migrate the
 existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
 
 The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the 
 following:
 
 Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
 IIS removed
 IE6 SP1 installed
 Relevant Critical Updates
 Exchange service account in local admins group
 Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
 Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
 
 These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third 
 party software
 will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
 
 Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and 
 get going, but I
 guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
 obvious that
 I've forgotten?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
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 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
OK, well AFAIK Outlook is the only mapi client for 2000, so I guess that
equates to don't have a mapi client installed on the server?  

I'm struggling to think of a reason we'd need one, it just struck me as the
sort of thing that might crop up further down the line...

I've also just mailed Trend to get their take on Scanmail mapi/avapi vs.
Scanmail ESE - I believe there are still potential Microsoft support issues
with ESE scanners?

regards,
Paul
--
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 February 2003 13:01
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on your Exchange
 server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and 
 Exchange server
 version.
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul 
 Hutchings
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
 
 
 Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as
 well!
 
 One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi
 client
 installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that I could
 imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm 
 wondering
 if
 it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?
 
 Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as 
 Windows 2000
 doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
 Paul Hutchings
 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
 Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Hutchings 
  Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
  
  
  I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get 
  this right
  first time :-)
  
  I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to 
 migrate the
  existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
  
  The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the 
  following:
  
  Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
  IIS removed
  IE6 SP1 installed
  Relevant Critical Updates
  Exchange service account in local admins group
  Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
  Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
  
  These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third 
  party software
  will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
  
  Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and 
  get going, but I
  guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
  obvious that
  I've forgotten?
  
  regards,
  Paul
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Mellott, Bill
I might say for myself...is that IF you have(as IN I must for some reason)
to have OL..on your exchange box..
Memory serves me that you should install OL first, then do all the exchange
install..
Why??? the MAPI***.DLL, Exe other crap..I believe it is specifically the
MAPI32.DLL

Exchange will replace/update it to the versions exchange requires.
OL will do the same replace/update them too.

SO thus if you install Exchange and then OL..OL will break exchange...(cause
it over writes exchange with its (OL)files)
So by doing OL  and then Exchange, exchange will put in the files it
requires to run correctly...which is the point to begin with.

Avoid the OL on the box unless you absolutely must have it..then re
investigate why before you do it

2 cent

bill

-Original Message-
From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on your Exchange
server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and Exchange server
version.

Brian



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as
well!

One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi
client
installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that I could
imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm wondering
if
it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?

Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as Windows 2000
doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings 
 Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get 
 this right
 first time :-)
 
 I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to migrate the
 existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
 
 The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the 
 following:
 
 Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
 IIS removed
 IE6 SP1 installed
 Relevant Critical Updates
 Exchange service account in local admins group
 Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
 Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
 
 These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third 
 party software
 will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
 
 Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and 
 get going, but I
 guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
 obvious that
 I've forgotten?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Hurst, Paul
Paul,

I normally install the Exchange 5.0 client on my Windows 2000 servers that
require MAPI.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 February 2003 13:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


OK, well AFAIK Outlook is the only mapi client for 2000, so I guess that
equates to don't have a mapi client installed on the server?  

I'm struggling to think of a reason we'd need one, it just struck me as the
sort of thing that might crop up further down the line...

I've also just mailed Trend to get their take on Scanmail mapi/avapi vs.
Scanmail ESE - I believe there are still potential Microsoft support issues
with ESE scanners?

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 February 2003 13:01
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on your Exchange
 server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and 
 Exchange server
 version.
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul 
 Hutchings
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
 
 
 Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as
 well!
 
 One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi
 client
 installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that I could
 imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm 
 wondering
 if
 it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?
 
 Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as 
 Windows 2000
 doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
 Paul Hutchings
 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
 Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Hutchings 
  Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
  
  
  I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get 
  this right
  first time :-)
  
  I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to 
 migrate the
  existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
  
  The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the 
  following:
  
  Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
  IIS removed
  IE6 SP1 installed
  Relevant Critical Updates
  Exchange service account in local admins group
  Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
  Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
  
  These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third 
  party software
  will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
  
  Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and 
  get going, but I
  guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
  obvious that
  I've forgotten?
  
  regards,
  Paul
  --
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  Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
Thanks Paul - do you know if that's downloadable (legitimately)?  I remember
looking for it a while back and I just couldn't find it anywhere.

regards,
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 -Original Message-
 From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 February 2003 13:20
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 Paul,
 
 I normally install the Exchange 5.0 client on my Windows 2000 
 servers that
 require MAPI.
 
 Cheers
 
 Paul
 
 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everyone wants one but not yours 

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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Stevens, Dave
Could you let me know about what Trend states about the AVAPI and ESE
scanner?  we still run the avapi and have not really seen the requirement to
upgrade to ese...however, it would be nice to get more detailed info when
viruses are found...and I also understand that the ese does not reset the
mailbox accessed each time it performs a manual scan.



Dave Stevens
-IT Network Support- 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
865-576-8898
 


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


OK, well AFAIK Outlook is the only mapi client for 2000, so I guess that
equates to don't have a mapi client installed on the server?  

I'm struggling to think of a reason we'd need one, it just struck me as the
sort of thing that might crop up further down the line...

I've also just mailed Trend to get their take on Scanmail mapi/avapi vs.
Scanmail ESE - I believe there are still potential Microsoft support issues
with ESE scanners?

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 February 2003 13:01
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on your Exchange 
 server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and Exchange 
 server version.
 
 Brian
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul
 Hutchings
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
 
 
 Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as 
 well!
 
 One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi 
 client installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that 
 I could imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm
 wondering
 if
 it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?
 
 Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as
 Windows 2000
 doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
 Paul Hutchings
 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
 Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Hutchings
  Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
  
  
  I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get
  this right
  first time :-)
  
  I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to
 migrate the
  existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
  
  The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the
  following:
  
  Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
  IIS removed
  IE6 SP1 installed
  Relevant Critical Updates
  Exchange service account in local admins group
  Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
  Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
  
  These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third
  party software
  will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
  
  Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and
  get going, but I
  guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
  obvious that
  I've forgotten?
  
  regards,
  Paul
  --
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  Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
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  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
Will do.  I've been running the ESE v3.8 scanner on a small sites server for
around a year now, never had any problems, but then there's only a 2gb store
and about 40 mailboxes.  

I guess I'm trying to do best practice as I'm effectively going to be
starting from scratch with these new boxes.

Oh, and I'm talking crap, I do have a v5 client CAB files, I haven't
installed it (still don't know if I should or not!), but I've extracted the
exchng32.exe and it's version is 5.0.1457.3.

regards,
Paul
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 -Original Message-
 From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 February 2003 13:24
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 Could you let me know about what Trend states about the AVAPI and ESE
 scanner?  we still run the avapi and have not really seen the 
 requirement to
 upgrade to ese...however, it would be nice to get more 
 detailed info when
 viruses are found...and I also understand that the ese does 
 not reset the
 mailbox accessed each time it performs a manual scan.
 
 
 
 Dave Stevens
 -IT Network Support- 
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 865-576-8898
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
 
 
 OK, well AFAIK Outlook is the only mapi client for 2000, so I 
 guess that
 equates to don't have a mapi client installed on the server?  
 
 I'm struggling to think of a reason we'd need one, it just 
 struck me as the
 sort of thing that might crop up further down the line...
 
 I've also just mailed Trend to get their take on Scanmail 
 mapi/avapi vs.
 Scanmail ESE - I believe there are still potential Microsoft 
 support issues
 with ESE scanners?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
 Paul Hutchings
 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
 Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 13 February 2003 13:01
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
  
  
  One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on your Exchange 
  server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and Exchange 
  server version.
  
  Brian
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul
  Hutchings
  Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
  
  
  Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as 
  well!
  
  One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on 
 having a Mapi 
  client installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of 
 thing that 
  I could imagine might be required at some point down the 
 line, so I'm
  wondering
  if
  it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?
  
  Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as
  Windows 2000
  doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?
  
  regards,
  Paul
  --
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   -Original Message-
   From: Paul Hutchings
   Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
   
   
   I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get
   this right
   first time :-)
   
   I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to
  migrate the
   existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
   
   The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the
   following:
   
   Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
   IIS removed
   IE6 SP1 installed
   Relevant Critical Updates
   Exchange service account in local admins group
   Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
   Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
   
   These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third
   party software
   will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of 
 the boxes.
   
   Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and
   get going, but I
   guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
   obvious that
   I've forgotten?
   
   regards,
   Paul
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Dennis Depp
Paul,

I'm probably overly paranoid, but I would not install MBSA on the
Exchange box.  If memory serves me correctly, you can run this software
remotely and still gather the patch information.  Avoid installing
Outlook on the server.  You don't mention this, but I always install the
network monitor that comes with Windows 2000.  This is not installed by
default, and requires a reboot.  Often when I get a quirky problem,
Microsoft will want to take a packet capture.  Having this installed
saves having to plan a reboot of the Server.

Dennis

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as
well!

One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi
client installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that I
could imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm
wondering if it would be better to install it prior to installing
Exchange?

Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as Windows 2000
doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?

regards,
Paul
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 -Original Message-
 From: Paul HutchingsBSA
 Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get
 this right
 first time :-)
 
 I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to migrate the

 existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
 
 The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the
 following:
 
 Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
 IIS removed
 IE6 SP1 installed
 Relevant Critical Updates
 Exchange service account in local admins group
 Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
 Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
 
 These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third
 party software
 will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
 
 Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and
 get going, but I
 guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
 obvious that
 I've forgotten?
 
 regards,
 Paul
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 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
It was on the Exchange 5.0 media, and maybe 5.5, but I can't remember for
sure.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
 
 
 Thanks Paul - do you know if that's downloadable 
 (legitimately)?  I remember
 looking for it a while back and I just couldn't find it anywhere.
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
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  -Original Message-
  From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 13 February 2003 13:20
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
  
  
  Paul,
  
  I normally install the Exchange 5.0 client on my Windows 2000 
  servers that
  require MAPI.
  
  Cheers
  
  Paul
  
  Standards are like toothbrushes,
  everyone wants one but not yours 
 
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
I've got it on 5 mailbox servers with stores up to 35GB without issue as
well.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:28 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
 
 
 Will do.  I've been running the ESE v3.8 scanner on a small 
 sites server for
 around a year now, never had any problems, but then there's 
 only a 2gb store
 and about 40 mailboxes.  
 
 I guess I'm trying to do best practice as I'm effectively 
 going to be
 starting from scratch with these new boxes.
 
 Oh, and I'm talking crap, I do have a v5 client CAB files, I haven't
 installed it (still don't know if I should or not!), but I've 
 extracted the
 exchng32.exe and it's version is 5.0.1457.3.
 
 regards,
 Paul
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 13 February 2003 13:24
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
  
  
  Could you let me know about what Trend states about the 
 AVAPI and ESE
  scanner?  we still run the avapi and have not really seen the 
  requirement to
  upgrade to ese...however, it would be nice to get more 
  detailed info when
  viruses are found...and I also understand that the ese does 
  not reset the
  mailbox accessed each time it performs a manual scan.
  
  
  
  Dave Stevens
  -IT Network Support- 
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  865-576-8898
   
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:16 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
  
  
  OK, well AFAIK Outlook is the only mapi client for 2000, so I 
  guess that
  equates to don't have a mapi client installed on the server?  
  
  I'm struggling to think of a reason we'd need one, it just 
  struck me as the
  sort of thing that might crop up further down the line...
  
  I've also just mailed Trend to get their take on Scanmail 
  mapi/avapi vs.
  Scanmail ESE - I believe there are still potential Microsoft 
  support issues
  with ESE scanners?
  
  regards,
  Paul
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   -Original Message-
   From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 13 February 2003 13:01
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
   
   
   One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on 
 your Exchange 
   server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and Exchange 
   server version.
   
   Brian
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul
   Hutchings
   Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
   
   
   Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't 
 appear twice as 
   well!
   
   One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on 
  having a Mapi 
   client installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of 
  thing that 
   I could imagine might be required at some point down the 
  line, so I'm
   wondering
   if
   it would be better to install it prior to installing Exchange?
   
   Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as
   Windows 2000
   doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?
   
   regards,
   Paul
   --
   Paul Hutchings
   Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
   Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings
Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]


I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get
this right
first time :-)

I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to
   migrate the
existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).

The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the
following:

Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
IIS removed
IE6 SP1 installed
Relevant Critical Updates
Exchange service account in local admins group
Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..

These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third
party software
will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of 
  the boxes.

Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and
get going, but I
guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think

RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Hurst, Paul
Paul,

It is either available on 5.0 CD or Select CD's (could be elsewhere) but
that's where I get mine. If haven't got it wait until after 18:00 GMT then
you will ;-)

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 February 2003 13:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


Thanks Paul - do you know if that's downloadable (legitimately)?  I remember
looking for it a while back and I just couldn't find it anywhere.

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 February 2003 13:20
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 Paul,
 
 I normally install the Exchange 5.0 client on my Windows 2000 
 servers that
 require MAPI.
 
 Cheers
 
 Paul
 
 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everyone wants one but not yours 

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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Garrish, Robert B.
Dear Paul,

Back on Thursday, April 12, 2001, I wrote a Haiku memorializing
Windows Messaging.


Windows Messaging,
more than a utility,
powerful, simple.

Able to resolve,
Administrator's best friend,
Never forgotten!!


For those who need more, there is the following Q Article.

Q254458

It is found on the November 1998 MS Select Server CD.


Rob Garrish
Windows NT Engineer
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371


-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 09:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


Paul,

It is either available on 5.0 CD or Select CD's (could be elsewhere) but
that's where I get mine. If haven't got it wait until after 18:00 GMT then
you will ;-)

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 February 2003 13:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


Thanks Paul - do you know if that's downloadable (legitimately)?  I remember
looking for it a while back and I just couldn't find it anywhere.

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 February 2003 13:20
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 Paul,
 
 I normally install the Exchange 5.0 client on my Windows 2000 
 servers that
 require MAPI.
 
 Cheers
 
 Paul
 
 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everyone wants one but not yours 

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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Ed Crowley
It only shipped in the early betas of 5.5.  That version, which never
shipped outside the beta community, also had deleted item recovery
support.  Microsoft decided to abandon the Exchange client before
shipping 5.5 and the client went away.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


It was on the Exchange 5.0 media, and maybe 5.5, but I can't remember
for sure.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:21 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000
 
 
 Thanks Paul - do you know if that's downloadable
 (legitimately)?  I remember
 looking for it a while back and I just couldn't find it anywhere.
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
 Paul Hutchings
 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
 Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 13 February 2003 13:20
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
  
  
  Paul,
  
  I normally install the Exchange 5.0 client on my Windows 2000
  servers that
  require MAPI.
  
  Cheers
  
  Paul
  
  Standards are like toothbrushes,
  everyone wants one but not yours
 
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RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000

2003-02-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You can install Outlook before Exchange and you probably won't have
problems.  There are also Knowledge Base articles that address this
problem.  If you're careful, you can have both.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


One thing you do not want to do is install Outlook on your Exchange
server due to possible MAPI conflict between Outlook and Exchange server
version.

Brian



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000


Hmm.. I only sent that once - hope this one doesn't appear twice as
well!

One thing just occurred to me.  What's the consensus on having a Mapi
client installed on the Exchange server?  It's the sort of thing that I
could imagine might be required at some point down the line, so I'm
wondering if it would be better to install it prior to installing
Exchange?

Presumably Outlook is the only Windows 2000 Mapi client as Windows 2000
doesn't come with the old slim line Exchange Client AFAIK?

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings
 Sent: 13 February 2003 12:04
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Installing 5.5 on Windows 2000 [bcc]
 
 
 I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but I want to get
 this right
 first time :-)
 
 I'm adding two new boxes into our Exchange 5.5 SP4 site to migrate the

 existing boxes off onto (thanks Ed for the SMM).
 
 The new servers are Windows 2000 SP3 member servers with the
 following:
 
 Terminal Services in Remote Admin mode
 IIS removed
 IE6 SP1 installed
 Relevant Critical Updates
 Exchange service account in local admins group
 Installed MBSA to keep up with patches etc..
 Installed Dell Openmanage hardware monitoring..
 
 These are dedicated Exchange boxes, the only additional third
 party software
 will be Trend Scanmail and a Rightfax connector on one of the boxes.
 
 Right now I think I'm ready to stick the Exchange CD in and
 get going, but I
 guess better safe than sorry - can anyone think of anything 
 obvious that
 I've forgotten?
 
 regards,
 Paul
 --
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 Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
 Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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