RE: Mass Mailings
Did look at Lsoft but it is too pricey for my lot! -Original Message- From: Wehner, Paul (wehnerpl) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2003 19:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I second the LSoft recomendation. Univ. of Cinci uses it and it's amazingly fast. Like 10K messages delivered in 60 minutes. We have webshield also installed on the box and god protect me, but it's all running fine-:) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings ListServ from LSOFT.COM is a good product. You set it up on it's own machine and subdomain (lists.Sanantonio.gov) and let it chug. One of the BETTER qualities of this product is that you can tune it so that a domain only gets one message for the number of people subscribed, rather than one message per recipient. (i.e. twenty users are listed at BELLSOUTH.NET.. Only one message gets sent to BELLSOUTH.NET) You can also chunk the traffic so that you don't flood out your ISP. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
I use Listserv also, and I'm very happy with the product. The support is simply excellent, also. How much is outsourcing costing you? If money's tight and you want a product that's got a decent installed base, look at Majordomo or Mailman for the *n?x platforms. http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/ http://www.list.org/ -Original Message- From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:12 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Did look at Lsoft but it is too pricey for my lot! -Original Message- From: Wehner, Paul (wehnerpl) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2003 19:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I second the LSoft recomendation. Univ. of Cinci uses it and it's amazingly fast. Like 10K messages delivered in 60 minutes. We have webshield also installed on the box and god protect me, but it's all running fine-:) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings ListServ from LSOFT.COM is a good product. You set it up on it's own machine and subdomain (lists.Sanantonio.gov) and let it chug. One of the BETTER qualities of this product is that you can tune it so that a domain only gets one message for the number of people subscribed, rather than one message per recipient. (i.e. twenty users are listed at BELLSOUTH.NET.. Only one message gets sent to BELLSOUTH.NET) You can also chunk the traffic so that you don't flood out your ISP. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
I haven't had to do anything like this but we always make business units pay their own way. I say make that division purchase a new mail server. That way it won't bog down your server. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
Well, I would look real carefully at that list and ask a lot of questions of where it came from. I would seriously doubt that 70,000 people have asked to receive mail from you. Chances are that this list came from somewhere else. If that's the case, trouble is brewing. Chances are your ISP has rules against sending out UCE. Which if that were the case, and if that list truly was not generated internally you could find yourself without an ISP. That said, you will probably want to look into some kind of listserv product. Something like Lyris. There are others out there as well. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
[1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
It's the city of San Antonio... they've got a couple of people interested in what certain divisions of the city do. ;) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:05 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Well, I would look real carefully at that list and ask a lot of questions of where it came from. I would seriously doubt that 70,000 people have asked to receive mail from you. Chances are that this list came from somewhere else. If that's the case, trouble is brewing. Chances are your ISP has rules against sending out UCE. Which if that were the case, and if that list truly was not generated internally you could find yourself without an ISP. That said, you will probably want to look into some kind of listserv product. Something like Lyris. There are others out there as well. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
I wouldn't be so sure of that. I just received a rather unkind note from my ISP for a UCE blast that was sent out from here without my prior knowledge. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
One of the big advantages over this is that it will allow ppl to subscribe and unsubscribe and let something like Mailman handle all bounces. By the way, I would prefer Mailman over Majordomo. B. At 08:22 03-09-2003 -0500, you wrote: [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
I've been tasked with running similar stuff over the pond here. I've tried a few if the cheaper versions you can get off download.com and they were pretty rubbish. If you're looking for a decent opt-out one then I'm testing Lyris List Manager which seems to test ok so far. And it's only $500. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2003 15:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
List server solutions do the job and inexpensive, the issue can be that your now maintain lists separate from Exchange. If the member is someone who seldom interacts with your organization, this is generally not a problem. If the member also in in your GAL, you no longer have a single directory. These means your now administering contacts in multiple places. Forgive the promo but if you want to keep everything in Exchange, you may want to look at Imanami. Imanami's applications can keep your exchange objects in sync with external data sources and automatically maintain your dynamic groups. Imanami also provides the ability to designate certain groups as public and allow your users to opt-in/out to these lists via a webpage. Check out Imanami at www.imanami.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hackney Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I've been tasked with running similar stuff over the pond here. I've tried a few if the cheaper versions you can get off download.com and they were pretty rubbish. If you're looking for a decent opt-out one then I'm testing Lyris List Manager which seems to test ok so far. And it's only $500. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2003 15:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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Thanks for all the input, I will investigate all the proposed solutions and will hopefully find the one that is right for us. Chris Martinez City of San Antonio Wk: 210.207.6503 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings List server solutions do the job and inexpensive, the issue can be that your now maintain lists separate from Exchange. If the member is someone who seldom interacts with your organization, this is generally not a problem. If the member also in in your GAL, you no longer have a single directory. These means your now administering contacts in multiple places. Forgive the promo but if you want to keep everything in Exchange, you may want to look at Imanami. Imanami's applications can keep your exchange objects in sync with external data sources and automatically maintain your dynamic groups. Imanami also provides the ability to designate certain groups as public and allow your users to opt-in/out to these lists via a webpage. Check out Imanami at www.imanami.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hackney Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I've been tasked with running similar stuff over the pond here. I've tried a few if the cheaper versions you can get off download.com and they were pretty rubbish. If you're looking for a decent opt-out one then I'm testing Lyris List Manager which seems to test ok so far. And it's only $500. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2003 15:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has
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Chris, we are a Community College and we use I hang my head to the group as we have become a spammer Bulk email software from Arialsoftware to send out admissions appts and the like that we download from the mainframe which we used to print out and send via snail mail...trying to cut down on expenses...thru our smtp gateway. Below is the link, its not cheap but its easy to set up and configure. http://www.arialsoftware.com/products.htm john -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ListServ from LSOFT.COM is a good product. You set it up on it's own machine and subdomain (lists.Sanantonio.gov) and let it chug. One of the BETTER qualities of this product is that you can tune it so that a domain only gets one message for the number of people subscribed, rather than one message per recipient. (i.e. twenty users are listed at BELLSOUTH.NET.. Only one message gets sent to BELLSOUTH.NET) You can also chunk the traffic so that you don't flood out your ISP. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I second the LSoft recomendation. Univ. of Cinci uses it and it's amazingly fast. Like 10K messages delivered in 60 minutes. We have webshield also installed on the box and god protect me, but it's all running fine-:) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings ListServ from LSOFT.COM is a good product. You set it up on it's own machine and subdomain (lists.Sanantonio.gov) and let it chug. One of the BETTER qualities of this product is that you can tune it so that a domain only gets one message for the number of people subscribed, rather than one message per recipient. (i.e. twenty users are listed at BELLSOUTH.NET.. Only one message gets sent to BELLSOUTH.NET) You can also chunk the traffic so that you don't flood out your ISP. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LSoftt it good I used them back in the BITNET days - Original Message - From: Wehner, Paul (wehnerpl) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I second the LSoft recomendation. Univ. of Cinci uses it and it's amazingly fast. Like 10K messages delivered in 60 minutes. We have webshield also installed on the box and god protect me, but it's all running fine-:) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings ListServ from LSOFT.COM is a good product. You set it up on it's own machine and subdomain (lists.Sanantonio.gov) and let it chug. One of the BETTER qualities of this product is that you can tune it so that a domain only gets one message for the number of people subscribed, rather than one message per recipient. (i.e. twenty users are listed at BELLSOUTH.NET.. Only one message gets sent to BELLSOUTH.NET) You can also chunk the traffic so that you don't flood out your ISP. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No offense, you're not the city of San Antonio. The city of San Antonio might send out unwanted mail admittedly[1], but UCE might be a tough one to pin on them. They probably would be a reasonably trustworthy opt-out sender as well (except for that damn San Antonio police department, which still won't let me back into the city). [1] Hey, I never signed up for the San Antonio Light and Power newsletter! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I wouldn't be so sure of that. I just received a rather unkind note from my ISP for a UCE blast that was sent out from here without my prior knowledge. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mass Mailings
Didnt take kindly to your pink dress did they? - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Mass Mailings No offense, you're not the city of San Antonio. The city of San Antonio might send out unwanted mail admittedly[1], but UCE might be a tough one to pin on them. They probably would be a reasonably trustworthy opt-out sender as well (except for that damn San Antonio police department, which still won't let me back into the city). [1] Hey, I never signed up for the San Antonio Light and Power newsletter! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I wouldn't be so sure of that. I just received a rather unkind note from my ISP for a UCE blast that was sent out from here without my prior knowledge. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mass Mailings
I think it was the pink thong... -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:58 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Re: Mass Mailings Didnt take kindly to your pink dress did they? - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Mass Mailings No offense, you're not the city of San Antonio. The city of San Antonio might send out unwanted mail admittedly[1], but UCE might be a tough one to pin on them. They probably would be a reasonably trustworthy opt-out sender as well (except for that damn San Antonio police department, which still won't let me back into the city). [1] Hey, I never signed up for the San Antonio Light and Power newsletter! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I wouldn't be so sure of that. I just received a rather unkind note from my ISP for a UCE blast that was sent out from here without my prior knowledge. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Mass Mailings
Probably not, but they did like the scarlet ribbon in his hair. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Mass Mailings Didnt take kindly to your pink dress did they? - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Mass Mailings No offense, you're not the city of San Antonio. The city of San Antonio might send out unwanted mail admittedly[1], but UCE might be a tough one to pin on them. They probably would be a reasonably trustworthy opt-out sender as well (except for that damn San Antonio police department, which still won't let me back into the city). [1] Hey, I never signed up for the San Antonio Light and Power newsletter! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I wouldn't be so sure of that. I just received a rather unkind note from my ISP for a UCE blast that was sent out from here without my prior knowledge. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings Your ISP isn't going to do anything; you're the city of San Antonio. But a sub-domain with its own originating IP does help in case that gets blacklisted by $random moron. You could get blacklisted no matter how careful you are just because there are idiots out there who will use any random blacklist that just happens to exist... and some of them are managed by.. well, as part of my kinder/gentler persona I'll stop there. The monthly San Antonio Parks Rec newsletter is highly unlikely to be seen as spam IMO. -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:12 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: RE: Mass Mailings I'am more concerned about being blacklisted also as Martin stated mass mail through my ISP (SBC). Should I consider setting up an additional domain/server to accomplish this in order to avoid being blacklisted or are there any other ways to get around this? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mass Mailings [1]I've sent such things though Exchange before... no problems in terms of volume, but you may consider a majordomo or mailman (or similar) box and a sub-domain of @lists.sanantonio.gov to manage such mailings. [1] Hi Chris! -Original Message- From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:46 AM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Mass Mailings Subject: Mass Mailings Hello All- We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will increase as required. My question is has anyone received similar requests and how were they handled? The division head assures me that this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this project and want to bring it in-house to save money. I believe in the long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to, any suggestions would be appreciated. TIA Chris _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
