Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda
Oh! You wanted the Mensa answer? That'll cost extra. - Original Message - From: "Ed Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > Is there a Mensa discount? > > Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP > Tech Consultant > Compaq Computer > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:54 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > That'll get ya a 5% discount. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:16 PM > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > U da man > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:11 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > > > 1) The RFC states that a given mailer must properly handle up to 100 > > recipients in a single mail. The destination server to which you are > sending > > does not support more then 100 > > 2) The destination server has an inbound limit of 5M and you are sending > an > > attachment of 12M > > > > My bill will be in the mail. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM > > Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > > > > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 > of > > > them today. > > > > > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 > > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 > > > > > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
Is there a Mensa discount? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda That'll get ya a 5% discount. - Original Message - From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > U da man > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > 1) The RFC states that a given mailer must properly handle up to 100 > recipients in a single mail. The destination server to which you are sending > does not support more then 100 > 2) The destination server has an inbound limit of 5M and you are sending an > attachment of 12M > > My bill will be in the mail. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM > Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of > > them today. > > > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 > > > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>You immediately >should NDR with a 5.4.6 code (for code meanings, see RFC 1893), which is >exactly what Exchange 2000 / Windows 2000 will do. (I do not know if >Exchange 5.5 does that) Exchange 5.5 does not do that. Thanks for the clarification. -Original Message- From: David Lemson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:12 PM To: Baker, Jennifer Subject: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question The Exchange 2000 / Windows 2000 SMTP Service default is 15 and can be modified using \inetpub\adminscripts\adsutil.vbs. The metabase key to see is "smtpsvc/1/HopCount". With the informatio we have, Microsoft and Exchange does not believe that a limit like 100 is appropriate. However, if you would rather follow the suggestion in RFC 2821, you are welcome to change it. Realize that in the event of a misconfiguration that causes a 3-way loop, you may be spending a heck of a lot of CPU and disk resources in bouncing mail around before it stops. The MTA does not count Received: headers, so you were right to not be thinking about the MTA. And to answer Andy's original question, a trivial loop is where you have a recipient, you resolve that recipient, look them up in your routing system, and find out that you should connect to server FOO. Then, you look up server FOO and find out that server FOO is YOU! You immediately should NDR with a 5.4.6 code (for code meanings, see RFC 1893), which is exactly what Exchange 2000 / Windows 2000 will do. (I do not know if Exchange 5.5 does that) David Iron Chef SMTP -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question The Exchange IMS default is 18 and can be changed (MaxReceivedHeaders), atleast that is what I have been telling myself for 4 years. Or are we talking about the MTA? Or both? -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question > Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for > me since I got nary a response last time: > > 6.2 Loop Detection > >Simple counting of the number of "Received:" headers in a message has >proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of >detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique >SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 >Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain >provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. > > What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What > constitutes a "trivial loop"? Are these stupid questions? > > > Andy > > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, > and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html > > Chris > -- > Chris Scharff > Senior Sales Engineer > MessageOne > If you can't measure, you can't manage! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > um... is it really not obvious? > > > > 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) > > Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the > > recievers server > > 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means > > it's too big) > > and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. > > -- Drew > > > > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! > > "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve > > the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he > > sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and cr
Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda
That'll get ya a 5% discount. - Original Message - From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > U da man > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > 1) The RFC states that a given mailer must properly handle up to 100 > recipients in a single mail. The destination server to which you are sending > does not support more then 100 > 2) The destination server has an inbound limit of 5M and you are sending an > attachment of 12M > > My bill will be in the mail. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM > Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of > > them today. > > > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 > > > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
U da troll > -Original Message- > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:17 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > U da man > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > 1) The RFC states that a given mailer must properly handle up to 100 > recipients in a single mail. The destination server to which > you are sending > does not support more then 100 > 2) The destination server has an inbound limit of 5M and you > are sending an > attachment of 12M > > My bill will be in the mail. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM > Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have > seen about 8 of > > them today. > > > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 > > > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
Is English a language you even speak? -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
U da man -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda 1) The RFC states that a given mailer must properly handle up to 100 recipients in a single mail. The destination server to which you are sending does not support more then 100 2) The destination server has an inbound limit of 5M and you are sending an attachment of 12M My bill will be in the mail. - Original Message - From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of > them today. > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 > The message that caused this notification was: > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question from a troll to a Yoda
1) The RFC states that a given mailer must properly handle up to 100 recipients in a single mail. The destination server to which you are sending does not support more then 100 2) The destination server has an inbound limit of 5M and you are sending an attachment of 12M My bill will be in the mail. - Original Message - From: "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of > them today. > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 > The message that caused this notification was: > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
Ok im done asking for the day time to read chris scharffs link -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda ...those. Those what, for ghods sake? Paul http://trollalert.com/TheHand/ [1] [1] Found on a Google search on Trolls :) -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda no I have always been like this you just have to get to know me first. Im one of those -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda We just need to all stop answering his troll questions, and he will go away. I'm about 99% convinced that Richard is another Hanji. Feed a troll, he will keep asking questions. Ignore a troll, he will go away. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
...those. Those what, for ghods sake? Paul http://trollalert.com/TheHand/ [1] [1] Found on a Google search on Trolls :) -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda no I have always been like this you just have to get to know me first. Im one of those -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda We just need to all stop answering his troll questions, and he will go away. I'm about 99% convinced that Richard is another Hanji. Feed a troll, he will keep asking questions. Ignore a troll, he will go away. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
I believe I'm drifting in your direction as well, Ben... jeez... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong." John G. Riefenbaker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Winzenz Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda We just need to all stop answering his troll questions, and he will go away. I'm about 99% convinced that Richard is another Hanji. Feed a troll, he will keep asking questions. Ignore a troll, he will go away. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
For pete's sake read the damn error message, will you? 1) I can't tell, because you didn't send the entire NDR, but the max amount (as STATED in the error message) is: <<553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100>> Gee, think that's less than 100? 2) The limit in size that someone can send out (as STATED in the error message) is: <<12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512>> 512 BYTES. You do the math. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! We're alone in the universe or we're not; either idea is mind-boggling. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
no I have always been like this you just have to get to know me first. Im one of those -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda We just need to all stop answering his troll questions, and he will go away. I'm about 99% convinced that Richard is another Hanji. Feed a troll, he will keep asking questions. Ignore a troll, he will go away. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
We just need to all stop answering his troll questions, and he will go away. I'm about 99% convinced that Richard is another Hanji. Feed a troll, he will keep asking questions. Ignore a troll, he will go away. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! > -Original Message- > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > > > > > > um... is it really not obvious? > > 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) > Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or > the recievers > server > 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means > it's too big) > and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. > -- Drew > > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! > "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve > the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he > sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other > from a million different centers of energy and daring, those > ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest > walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda > > > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have > seen about 8 of them today. > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 > The message that caused this notification was: > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 > > The message that caused this notification was: > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
You're Barbarino YO! Mr Kotter!! -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda You're kidding, right? I am so glad I'm not Yoda. William -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
You're kidding, right? I am so glad I'm not Yoda. William -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was: _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]