RE: Sent Item
Actually, we're not to mention Peregrine. ;) -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Not to mention Peregrine! Edgar J. Crowley Jr. Technical Consultant Windows Messaging Platforms Practice hp Services *510-612-3365 *[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange
RE: Sent Item
Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
And that works for all kinds of restores! -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http
RE: Sent Item
Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
Re: Sent Item
Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to charge them 50 Euro to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting company and the customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, I'm really curious how you get away with that. Allison W. On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: The customer shouldn't be punished for something that should take 2 hours, but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that states 24 hours to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from offsite. $50.00 or $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one wants to go to their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a picture of their sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's important, really important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. It just gets rid of the riff-raff. -Original Message- From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please
RE: Sent Item
-Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: 13 November 2002 14:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Your company doesn't have the practice of cross charging internal departments for work that's outside the normal scope of the job? Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
If.. 1) the deleted item retention time is set to some number of days, and 2) you are still within that number of days then, 1) close Outlook 2) open the affected user's registry 3) drill to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Exchange\Client\Options 4) add the DWORD: DumpsterAlwaysOn with a value of 1 5) open Outlook, click the sent items folder 6) Tools Deleted Items Recovery Good luck. Tim. x3683 -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
I think the whole point is to keep from having to do unnecessary restores. Would you want to restore, say, an email that contained a joke? It's a way of getting a user to examine their priorities - how important is the email. Is it important company data that needs to be recovered, or is it just convenience. I certainly wouldn't be willing to restore an exchange backup unless the customer/user can justify the worth of the email as being critical or necessary business data. I'm not saying that we would charge our users' cost centers for restores (we don't) - but then again, we also have deleted items retention set at 30 days so that we don't have to worry about this kind of thing. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to charge them 50 Euro to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting company and the customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, I'm really curious how you get away with that. Allison W. On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: The customer shouldn't be punished for something that should take 2 hours, but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that states 24 hours to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from offsite. $50.00 or $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one wants to go to their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a picture of their sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's important, really important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. It just gets rid of the riff-raff. -Original Message- From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator
RE: Sent Item
I don't do much admin work any more. (quack) Deleted Items Retention solves 99.9% of the issues with someone deleting something unintentionally. Most of the time the user hits delete and immediately has knows that they needed that message. Our helpdesk (least cost) can walk them through how to restore the item themselves. A simple published document stating that mail is restorable for free up to x (whatever DIR is set to) and will cost x after that. Any item older than whatever your tape rotation is set to is not available for restore. The chargeback to the users is to cover the costs of the administrators time. Nobody really seems to mind this, as long as it spelled out in advance. -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to charge them 50 Euro to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting company and the customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, I'm really curious how you get away with that. Allison W. On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: The customer shouldn't be punished for something that should take 2 hours, but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that states 24 hours to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from offsite. $50.00 or $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one wants to go to their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a picture of their sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's important, really important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. It just gets rid of the riff-raff. -Original Message- From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com
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Backups are done primarily for business continuance. They are not done because someone's too stupid to think twice before deleting a 50mb spreadsheet without making sure that its not needed anymore. If our job was to pick up after morons all day long, we'd never get anything done. Although, our company doesn't do chargebacks for IT at this point, though. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to charge them 50 Euro to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting company and the customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, I'm really curious how you get away with that. Allison W. On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: The customer shouldn't be punished for something that should take 2 hours, but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that states 24 hours to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from offsite. $50.00 or $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one wants to go to their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a picture of their sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's important, really important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. It just gets rid of the riff-raff. -Original Message- From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com
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Yup! I've got high standards. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Darcy, you sure expect a lot. It isn't fair to expect me to actually comprehend everything I read herein! Disregard my suggestion until the user does a shift-Delete from the Sent Items folder. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Adams Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Unfortunately . . . VBG James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Backups are done primarily for business continuance. They are not done because someone's too stupid to think twice before deleting a 50mb spreadsheet without making sure that its not needed anymore. If our job was to pick up after morons all day long, we'd never get anything done. Although, our company doesn't do chargebacks for IT at this point, though. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to charge them 50 Euro to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting company and the customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, I'm really curious how you get away with that. Allison W. On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: The customer shouldn't be punished for something that should take 2 hours, but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that states 24 hours to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from offsite. $50.00 or $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one wants to go to their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a picture of their sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's important, really important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. It just gets rid of the riff-raff. -Original Message- From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item
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Wait a year or two until a few new systems are in place and that might change. Then again, there's not enough deliniation between departmental budgets here, or in many other companies, in which chargebacks are a good thing. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: James Winzenz Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Unfortunately . . . VBG James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Backups are done primarily for business continuance. They are not done because someone's too stupid to think twice before deleting a 50mb spreadsheet without making sure that its not needed anymore. If our job was to pick up after morons all day long, we'd never get anything done. Although, our company doesn't do chargebacks for IT at this point, though. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Or at least, that is what my users would say if I tried to charge them 50 Euro to retrive some data. I can understand if you are hosting company and the customers are paying for mailboxes and support, but if not, I'm really curious how you get away with that. Allison W. On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:18, you wrote: The customer shouldn't be punished for something that should take 2 hours, but instead takes 4. A flat fee works best with a SLA that states 24 hours to restore it. Longer if you have to get tapes from offsite. $50.00 or $100.00 it doesn't matter really what you charge. No one wants to go to their boss and get the sign off on the charge to restore a picture of their sisters baby or that funny joke a friend sent. If it's important, really important, you could charge $1000.00 and they'd still pay. It just gets rid of the riff-raff. -Original Message- From: James Winzenz [mailto:james.winzenz;inovis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson
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No. But we are only 23 people here. 13 of us are IT/developers. AW On Wednesday 13 November 2002 15:54, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Allison M. Wittstock [mailto:aw;inubit.com] Sent: 13 November 2002 14:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sent Item Are you guys the in-house mail admins? I would think that its part of the job description, to backup the data and be able to retrieve something. Your company doesn't have the practice of cross charging internal departments for work that's outside the normal scope of the job? Robert Moir MSMVP IT Systems Engineer Luton Sixth Form College Ciderspace: An online 3D virtual reality environment for tramps. Ciderspace Cafe: A park Bench. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not to mention Peregrine! Edgar J. Crowley Jr. Technical Consultant Windows Messaging Platforms Practice hp Services *510-612-3365 *[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Woohooo! But why only $50? Seems like it should be $50/hr or something like that . . . With a minimum charge, of course! James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:JSchwartz;BBandT.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Amen! You'd be surprised how many times that important document isn't worth the $50.00 charge to their cost center. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe
RE: Sent Item
Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Restore from backup. -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Read the Disaster Recovery white-paper. Follow the instructions there to Restore from backup, and run the log files. Or - as has been suggested once before - contact the person the message was sent to and ask them to send it back. Darcy -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Darcy, you sure expect a lot. It isn't fair to expect me to actually comprehend everything I read herein! Disregard my suggestion until the user does a shift-Delete from the Sent Items folder. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Adams Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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3. Ask the user for his cost center number to which to charge the costs of the restore. That'll usually scare 'em off! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of James Winzenz Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item 1. restore from backup 2. have the user request that the person he/she sent the email to send it back to him/her. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator InovisTM, formerly Harbinger and Extricity -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item I did not implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method and the retention was not set. What other options do I have to restore the send item? Thank Everyone Tony -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Ed - I'm surprised at you. The item went through the Deleted Items folder. No need for dumpsteralwayson. The question is: did he implement the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice;pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 5:30 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you're following the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method described in the FAQ; absolutely. -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Only if you have deleted items retention turned on that the server hosting that user's mailbox. Or contact the person he sent the email to. Or, restore. Darcy -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
Depending on the version of Outlook and how you have Deleted Items Retention configured, yes. Go to the deleted items folder, then TOOLS/Recover Deleted Items. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
Do you have Deleted Item Retention turned on? If so check Tools | Deleted Items Retention... -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
We are on Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 2000. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:DNicholson;rapidapp.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Depending on the version of Outlook and how you have Deleted Items Retention configured, yes. Go to the deleted items folder, then TOOLS/Recover Deleted Items. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
Have you set up Deleted Items retention on the server? Or, to reiterate what Chris said: if you've followed the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method, you're okay. If you have not - you're pretty much stuck. If you've got good backups, you can do a restore to another server, play back the logs, and get the message back that way. Darcy -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item We are on Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 2000. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:DNicholson;rapidapp.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Depending on the version of Outlook and how you have Deleted Items Retention configured, yes. Go to the deleted items folder, then TOOLS/Recover Deleted Items. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
Ok. Go try it, and report back. If you don't have it configured, the option won't even show up, I believe. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item We are on Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 2000. -Original Message- From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:DNicholson;rapidapp.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sent Item Depending on the version of Outlook and how you have Deleted Items Retention configured, yes. Go to the deleted items folder, then TOOLS/Recover Deleted Items. Drew Nicholson Technical Writer Network Engineer LAN Manager RapidApp 312-372-7188 (work) 312-543-0008 (cell) Born To Edit -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:TNguyen;jetproducts.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item
Search TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-94760;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item I have a user that deleted the sent item and then empty the deleted items. Is there a way to get this item back from the database? Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) System Administrator/DBA Senior Aerospace Jet Products (858) 278-8400 EXT. 250 www.jetproducts.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item not really sent?
Can you think of another way to make the sent folder message count be greater than the number of actually-sent messages. So can I. -Original Message- From: Mood, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item not really sent? Server 5.5 SP4 NT 4.0 SP6a Workstations W2K SP2 Outlook 2K A user had a message that was sent but never received by someone within the site (same server as well). I typically track these down as misaddressed, deleted, delegated, or processed by a rule so it does not appear where it would be expected. The message does appear in the users sent items with a sent time of Wed 4/10/2002 8:10 AM but I can find it nowhere in the recipients mailbox (I also checked deleted item recovery). Analyzing the message tracking logs shows this user sent 16 items for that day when his sent items shows 17. All messages in the users sent items have properties that include both a general tab and a message ID tab with the exception of this one. No other mail flow problems have been observed during this time and the event logs do not show anything special during the time this message turned to vapor. Unfortunately, MTA logging is not turned up at all on this server but I would think an internal transfer failure would show up. The client machine has no other mail delivery services besides Exchange server and about the only thing really notable on the client is that it is a laptop that uses offline synch but the user was online during this send and sent other messages almost immediately before and after the missing one. No personal folders in use at either station. What happened to this message? What else should I be looking at? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sent Item not really sent?
Delayed delivery, manually moving a message into it? but where would the sent time get stamped on it in either case? also DL expansion on a remote server would do it but is not the case here. The point being not so much the count difference but I can't find this message in the system or any trace of it going through the system. -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Mood, Steve Subject: RE: Sent Item not really sent? Can you think of another way to make the sent folder message count be greater than the number of actually-sent messages. So can I. -Original Message- From: Mood, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sent Item not really sent? Server 5.5 SP4 NT 4.0 SP6a Workstations W2K SP2 Outlook 2K A user had a message that was sent but never received by someone within the site (same server as well). I typically track these down as misaddressed, deleted, delegated, or processed by a rule so it does not appear where it would be expected. The message does appear in the users sent items with a sent time of Wed 4/10/2002 8:10 AM but I can find it nowhere in the recipients mailbox (I also checked deleted item recovery). Analyzing the message tracking logs shows this user sent 16 items for that day when his sent items shows 17. All messages in the users sent items have properties that include both a general tab and a message ID tab with the exception of this one. No other mail flow problems have been observed during this time and the event logs do not show anything special during the time this message turned to vapor. Unfortunately, MTA logging is not turned up at all on this server but I would think an internal transfer failure would show up. The client machine has no other mail delivery services besides Exchange server and about the only thing really notable on the client is that it is a laptop that uses offline synch but the user was online during this send and sent other messages almost immediately before and after the missing one. No personal folders in use at either station. What happened to this message? What else should I be looking at? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
