Re: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
More reliable under high volume. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || John Matteson| || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/12/2001 02:16 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI | ---| Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
Pick me! Pick me! I'm closer. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Andy David | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/12/2001 08:16 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- ---| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI | ---| I think I'll try that line on you the next time I see you... -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my wallet? Can you still help me? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month! ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe. I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
Of course. You are more reliable under high volume... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Pick me! Pick me! I'm closer. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Andy David | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 12/12/2001 08:16 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- | | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI | --- | I think I'll try that line on you the next time I see you... -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my wallet? Can you still help me? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month! ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe. I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
Ditto. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe. I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month! ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe. I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now. Thanks for anything you can give me. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Do the voices in my head bother you
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my wallet? Can you still help me? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month! ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe. I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52. Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
Oh.. You've been promoted to VP of Marketing? Yes, we have a special program just for you. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my wallet? Can you still help me? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month! ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe. I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange
RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
I think I'll try that line on you the next time I see you... -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my wallet? Can you still help me? -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month! ;) Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe. I'm measuring, but I still can't manage. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for the DS/IS. Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by ScanMail. You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes. Use InterScan for the Gateway. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one? Thanx for your help Aaron -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6. So, this would be the revision to that. We have a fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far. S. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI Good afternoon to you all: I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep software up to date