Re: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-13 Thread Kelly_Borndale


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Good afternoon to you all:

   I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying to keep
software up to date) as to why I want to load version 3.7 of Trend Micro's
AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the current ver. 3.52.

   Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, when
compared to
the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.

   Thanks for anything you can give me.



John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-13 Thread Kelly_Borndale


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I think I'll try that line on you the next time I see you...


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my
wallet?  Can you still help me?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is
only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial
training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your
problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month!
;)

Chris
--
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage!


 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe.

 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?

 Chris
 --
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage!


  -Original Message-
  From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
  ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages
  destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS
  will not get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load
  ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any
  mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.
 
  --
  Matthew
  Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get
  yours today!
  http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
 
  Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P
  stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the
  mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange
 server that
  has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for
 IMS and OWA.
  IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of
  implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now
 we're running
  NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for
 right now
  to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use
  Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main
  Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
  
  Thanx for your help
  
  Aaron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-13 Thread Andy David

Of course. You are more reliable under high volume...



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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI



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I think I'll try that line on you the next time I see you...


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my
wallet?  Can you still help me?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is
only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial
training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your
problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month!
;)

Chris
--
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage!


 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe.

 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?

 Chris
 --
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage!


  -Original Message-
  From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
  ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages
  destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS
  will not get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load
  ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any
  mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.
 
  --
  Matthew
  Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get
  yours today!
  http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
 
  Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P
  stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the
  mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange
 server that
  has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for
 IMS and OWA.
  IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of
  implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now
 we're running
  NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for
 right now
  to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use
  Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main
  Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
  
  Thanx for your help
  
  Aaron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning

RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a
little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of
scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0
version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the
attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information
using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet
(could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect
might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and
recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Good afternoon to you all:
 
   I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying 
 to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 
 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than 
 keep the current ver. 3.52.
 
   Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me, 
 when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
 
   Thanks for anything you can give me.
 
 
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Do the voices in my head bother you?
 
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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Soysal, Serdar

Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6.  So, this
would be the revision to that.  We have a fairly large deployment of
ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a
little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of
scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0
version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the
attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information
using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet
(could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect
might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and
recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Good afternoon to you all:
 
   I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying
 to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 
 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than 
 keep the current ver. 3.52.
 
   Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me,
 when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
 
   Thanks for anything you can give me.
 
 
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Do the voices in my head bother you?
 
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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville

Ditto.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 
3.6.  So, this would be the revision to that.  We have a 
fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode 
and didn't have any problems so far.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of 
scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... 
But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the 
more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI 
found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the 
attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient 
information using the ESE method. I don't believe that 
eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to 
correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be 
attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Good afternoon to you all:
 
I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying
 to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version
 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than 
 keep the current ver. 3.52.
 
Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me,
 when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
 
Thanks for anything you can give me.
 
 
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Do the voices in my head bother you?
 
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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Edwards, Aaron

While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange server that has
about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA
sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail
this weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. Can I
install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a kind of virus
blocking gateway? Or do I have to use Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I
put them on our main Exchange server and IMS or just on one?

Thanx for your help

Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 3.6.  So, this
would be the revision to that.  We have a fairly large deployment of
ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and didn't have any problems so far.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of scanning, so a
little healthy caution is in order IMHO... But the ESE methodology of
scanning bypasses several of the more annoying limitations of the 1.0
version of the AVAPI found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the
attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient information
using the ESE method. I don't believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet
(could be wrong, feel free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect
might not be attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and
recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Good afternoon to you all:
 
   I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying
 to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version 
 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than 
 keep the current ver. 3.52.
 
   Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me,
 when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
 
   Thanks for anything you can give me.
 
 
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Do the voices in my head bother you?
 
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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville

ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages destined for
the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS will not get scanned by
ScanMail.  You don't need to load ScanMail on the IMS only server if it
doesn't have any mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.

--
Matthew
Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today!
http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp

Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for
Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz
8-16-01

-Original Message-
From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange 
server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate 
servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own 
separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this 
weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. 
Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a 
kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use 
Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main 
Exchange server and IMS or just on one?

Thanx for your help

Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version 
3.6.  So, this would be the revision to that.  We have a 
fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode 
and didn't have any problems so far.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of 
scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... 
But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the 
more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI 
found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the 
attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient 
information using the ESE method. I don't believe that 
eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to 
correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be 
attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Good afternoon to you all:
 
I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying
 to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load version
 3.7 of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than 
 keep the current ver. 3.52.
 
Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me,
 when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
 
Thanks for anything you can give me.
 
 
 
 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981
 
 Do the voices in my head bother you?
 
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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Chris Scharff

When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages 
 destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS 
 will not get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load 
 ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any 
 mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.
 
 --
 Matthew
 Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get 
 yours today! 
 http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
 
 Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P 
 stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the 
 mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange
 server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate 
 servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own 
 separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this 
 weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. 
 Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a 
 kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use 
 Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main 
 Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
 
 Thanx for your help
 
 Aaron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version
 3.6.  So, this would be the revision to that.  We have a 
 fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode 
 and didn't have any problems so far.
 
 S.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of
 scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... 
 But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the 
 more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI 
 found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the 
 attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient 
 information using the ESE method. I don't believe that 
 eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to 
 correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be 
 attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
 recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.
 
 Chris
 --
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Good afternoon to you all:
  
   I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying
  to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load 
 version 3.7 
  of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the 
  current ver. 3.52.
  
   Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me,
  when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
  
   Thanks for anything you can give me.
  
  
  
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
  (404) 239 - 2981
  
  Do the voices in my head bother you?
  
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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Jennifer Baker

The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe.

I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages 
 destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS 
 will not get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load 
 ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any 
 mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.
 
 --
 Matthew
 Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get 
 yours today! 
 http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
 
 Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P 
 stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the 
 mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange
 server that has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate 
 servers for IMS and OWA. IMS and OWA sit on their own 
 separate DMZs. We are thinking of implementing Scanmail this 
 weekend as well. Right now we're running NAV for Exchange. 
 Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for right now to act as a 
 kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use 
 Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main 
 Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
 
 Thanx for your help
 
 Aaron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with version
 3.6.  So, this would be the revision to that.  We have a 
 fairly large deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode 
 and didn't have any problems so far.
 
 S.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of
 scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order IMHO... 
 But the ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the 
 more annoying limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI 
 found in Exchange 5.5. You get access to not only the 
 attachments, but also the message body and sender/recipient 
 information using the ESE method. I don't believe that 
 eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel free to 
 correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be 
 attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
 recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.
 
 Chris
 --
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Good afternoon to you all:
  
   I am looking for some good reasons (other than trying
  to keep software up to date) as to why I want to load 
 version 3.7 
  of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the 
  current ver. 3.52.
  
   Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give me,
  when compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
  
   Thanks for anything you can give me.
  
  
  
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
  (404) 239 - 2981
  
  Do the voices in my head bother you?
  
  _
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 http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
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RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Chris Scharff

 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is
only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial
training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your
problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month!
;)

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe.
 
 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages
  destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS 
  will not get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load 
  ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any 
  mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.
  
  --
  Matthew
  Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get
  yours today! 
  http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
  
  Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P
  stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the 
  mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange 
 server that 
  has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for 
 IMS and OWA. 
  IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of 
  implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now 
 we're running 
  NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for 
 right now 
  to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use
  Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main 
  Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
  
  Thanx for your help
  
  Aaron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with 
 version 3.6.  So, 
  this would be the revision to that.  We have a fairly large 
  deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and 
 didn't have any 
  problems so far.
  
  S.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of 
  scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order 
 IMHO... But the 
  ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more 
 annoying 
  limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in 
 Exchange 5.5. 
  You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message 
  body and sender/recipient information using the ESE 
 method. I don't 
  believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel 
  free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be
  attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
  recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
   
   
   Good afternoon to you all:
   
  I am looking for some good reasons (other than 
 trying to keep 
   software up to date) as to why I want to load
  version 3.7
   of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the
   current ver. 3.52.
   
  Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give 
 me, when 
   compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do now.
   
  Thanks for anything you can give me.
   
   
   
   John Matteson; Exchange Manager
   Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
   (404) 239 - 2981
   
   Do the voices in my head bother you

RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Jennifer Baker

What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my
wallet?  Can you still help me?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is
only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial
training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your
problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month!
;)

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe.
 
 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages
  destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS 
  will not get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load 
  ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any 
  mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.
  
  --
  Matthew
  Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get
  yours today! 
  http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
  
  Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P
  stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the 
  mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange 
 server that 
  has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for 
 IMS and OWA. 
  IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of 
  implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now 
 we're running 
  NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for 
 right now 
  to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use
  Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main 
  Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
  
  Thanx for your help
  
  Aaron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with 
 version 3.6.  So, 
  this would be the revision to that.  We have a fairly large 
  deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and 
 didn't have any 
  problems so far.
  
  S.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of 
  scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order 
 IMHO... But the 
  ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more 
 annoying 
  limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in 
 Exchange 5.5. 
  You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message 
  body and sender/recipient information using the ESE 
 method. I don't 
  believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel 
  free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be
  attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
  recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
   
   
   Good afternoon to you all:
   
  I am looking for some good reasons (other than 
 trying to keep 
   software up to date) as to why I want to load
  version 3.7
   of Trend Micro's AV software for Exchange, rather than keep the
   current ver. 3.52.
   
  Yes, ESE is introduced, but what does that give 
 me, when 
   compared to the MAPI/AVAPI scanning I do

RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Oh.. You've been promoted to VP of Marketing? Yes, we have a special program
just for you. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 6:07 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I 
 can't find my wallet?  Can you still help me?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
  I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.
 
 If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. 
 Measurement is only one of the required skills for management 
 my dear. We'll hold remedial training for you the next time 
 I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your problem earlier we 
 held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month!
 ;)
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe.
  
  I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
   
   
   ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages 
   destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your 
 IMS will not 
   get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load ScanMail 
 on the IMS 
   only server if it doesn't have any mailboxes.  Use 
 InterScan for the 
   Gateway.
   
   --
   Matthew
   Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours 
   today! 
   http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
   
   Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember 
 the P stands 
   for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail 
 admin)... 
   Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
   
   
   While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange
  server that
   has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for
  IMS and OWA.
   IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of
   implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now 
  we're running
   NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for
  right now
   to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I 
 have to use 
   Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main 
   Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
   
   Thanx for your help
   
   Aaron
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
   
   
   Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with
  version 3.6.  So,
   this would be the revision to that.  We have a fairly large
   deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and 
  didn't have any
   problems so far.
   
   S.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
   
   
   Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of
   scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order 
  IMHO... But the
   ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more
  annoying
   limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in
  Exchange 5.5.
   You get access to not only the attachments, but also 
 the message
   body and sender/recipient information using the ESE 
  method. I don't
   believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel
   free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect 
 might not be
   attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
   recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.
   
   Chris
   --
   Chris Scharff
   Senior Sales Engineer
   MessageOne
   If you can't measure, you can't manage!
   
   
-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
To: Exchange

RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI

2001-12-12 Thread Andy David

I think I'll try that line on you the next time I see you...


-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


What if I'm blindfolded, my ears are plugged, I'm dizzy and I can't find my
wallet?  Can you still help me?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI


 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.

If you can't ride a bike, you can't compete in a triathlon. Measurement is
only one of the required skills for management my dear. We'll hold remedial
training for you the next time I'm in town. If only you'd mentioned your
problem earlier we held just such a session in Seattle earlier this month!
;)

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 5:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 The IMS Mailbox only exists if you truly believe.
 
 I'm measuring, but I still can't manage.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:55 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
 
 
 When internet e-mail is converted, isn't it written to the store?
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:07 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  ScanMail on the Exchange server. ScanMail only scans messages
  destined for the DS/IS.  Messages passing through your IMS 
  will not get scanned by ScanMail.  You don't need to load 
  ScanMail on the IMS only server if it doesn't have any 
  mailboxes.  Use InterScan for the Gateway.
  
  --
  Matthew
  Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get
  yours today! 
  http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
  
  Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P
  stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the 
  mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Edwards, Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 3:56 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  While on the subject of Scanmail... We have an Exchange 
 server that 
  has about 600 mailboxes. We have separate servers for 
 IMS and OWA. 
  IMS and OWA sit on their own separate DMZs. We are thinking of 
  implementing Scanmail this weekend as well. Right now 
 we're running 
  NAV for Exchange. Can I install Scanmail on IMS only for 
 right now 
  to act as a kind of virus blocking gateway? Or do I have to use
  Interscan Viruswall for that? Should I put them on our main 
  Exchange server and IMS or just on one?
  
  Thanx for your help
  
  Aaron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:47 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Actually Trend introduced ESE based scanning with 
 version 3.6.  So, 
  this would be the revision to that.  We have a fairly large 
  deployment of ScanMail 3.6 running in ESE mode and 
 didn't have any 
  problems so far.
  
  S.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
  
  
  Well, it's Trend's first foray into the ESE methodology of 
  scanning, so a little healthy caution is in order 
 IMHO... But the 
  ESE methodology of scanning bypasses several of the more 
 annoying 
  limitations of the 1.0 version of the AVAPI found in 
 Exchange 5.5. 
  You get access to not only the attachments, but also the message 
  body and sender/recipient information using the ESE 
 method. I don't 
  believe that eManager works with 3.72 yet (could be wrong, feel 
  free to correct me) so the content filtering aspect might not be
  attractive at this point, but knowing who the sender and 
  recipient are of infected messages can be a useful feature.
  
  Chris
  --
  Chris Scharff
  Senior Sales Engineer
  MessageOne
  If you can't measure, you can't manage!
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:16 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: TrendMicro ESE vs. AVAPI
   
   
   Good afternoon to you all:
   
  I am looking for some good reasons (other than 
 trying to keep 
   software up to date