RE: Shutting Down 5.5

2002-10-15 Thread Hurst, Paul

Chris,

This was used in the old versions of 5.5 (I think before SP3) as Exchange
did not shut down in the correct order when requested by NT and therefore
took a loo time (E.G. tried to shutdown the services in the wrong
order and hence some at the same time, etc; until it got to IS which would
shutdown, then it went round in the top and did the same thing again and
again until it finally shut everything down). Now we have SP3  it is not
necessary.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 19:50
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Subject: Shutting Down 5.5


I have seen arguments both ways and am interested in the list's perspective.

My predecessor here has it drilled into everyone that you have to use his
batch script to stop Exchange services in a certain order. I know the info
store stopping cleanly is the biggest one you want. Has anyone seen or use
something like this to shut down the services in a certain order vs. letting
NT take them down in the dependency order upon shutdown?


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RE: Shutting Down 5.5

2002-10-15 Thread Hurst, Paul

Daniel,

How come then you could shutdown a server quicker by specifying the shutdown
order of the services in a batch file (as requested here) then shutting down
SA? if that was the case then the batch file would make no difference.

Cheers

Paul

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-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 October 2002 14:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Shutting Down 5.5


That was not the cause of the shutdown; the dependencies make sure of the
correct order. It had to do with the IS and how it was flushing buffers
which was addressed, finally, in SP3.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Shutting Down 5.5


Chris,

This was used in the old versions of 5.5 (I think before SP3) as Exchange
did not shut down in the correct order when requested by NT and therefore
took a loo time (E.G. tried to shutdown the services in the wrong
order and hence some at the same time, etc; until it got to IS which would
shutdown, then it went round in the top and did the same thing again and
again until it finally shut everything down). Now we have SP3  it is not
necessary.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 19:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Shutting Down 5.5


I have seen arguments both ways and am interested in the list's perspective.

My predecessor here has it drilled into everyone that you have to use his
batch script to stop Exchange services in a certain order. I know the info
store stopping cleanly is the biggest one you want. Has anyone seen or use
something like this to shut down the services in a certain order vs. letting
NT take them down in the dependency order upon shutdown?


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RE: Shutting Down 5.5

2002-10-15 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards

Shut them down in any order you would like.  The order in which they are
shutdown really only depends on if you are doing a manual shutdown from the
command line.  Otherwise, stop the DS first, which will take down a couple
of others services and then do the rest of manually.  It is best to shutdown
the services FIRST when you are rebooting the Exchange machine.  Takes less
time then allowing NT to do it.

Geoff...



-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Shutting Down 5.5


That was not the cause of the shutdown; the dependencies make sure of the
correct order. It had to do with the IS and how it was flushing buffers
which was addressed, finally, in SP3.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Shutting Down 5.5


Chris,

This was used in the old versions of 5.5 (I think before SP3) as Exchange
did not shut down in the correct order when requested by NT and therefore
took a loo time (E.G. tried to shutdown the services in the wrong
order and hence some at the same time, etc; until it got to IS which would
shutdown, then it went round in the top and did the same thing again and
again until it finally shut everything down). Now we have SP3  it is not
necessary.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 October 2002 19:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Shutting Down 5.5


I have seen arguments both ways and am interested in the list's perspective.

My predecessor here has it drilled into everyone that you have to use his
batch script to stop Exchange services in a certain order. I know the info
store stopping cleanly is the biggest one you want. Has anyone seen or use
something like this to shut down the services in a certain order vs. letting
NT take them down in the dependency order upon shutdown?


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Shutting Down 5.5

2002-10-14 Thread Chris H

I have seen arguments both ways and am interested in the list's perspective.

My predecessor here has it drilled into everyone that you have to use his
batch script to stop Exchange services in a certain order. I know the info
store stopping cleanly is the biggest one you want. Has anyone seen or use
something like this to shut down the services in a certain order vs. letting
NT take them down in the dependency order upon shutdown?


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RE: Shutting Down 5.5

2002-10-14 Thread William Lefkovics

Same thing to me. 

Actually, I have used:

net stop MSExchangeSA /y
net stop MSExchangeSA /y
net stop MSExchangeSA /y

There.  Stopped in order.


William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, WLKMMAS, ExchangeMVP
 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Shutting Down 5.5


I have seen arguments both ways and am interested in the list's
perspective.

My predecessor here has it drilled into everyone that you have to use
his
batch script to stop Exchange services in a certain order. I know the
info
store stopping cleanly is the biggest one you want. Has anyone seen or
use
something like this to shut down the services in a certain order vs.
letting
NT take them down in the dependency order upon shutdown?


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RE: Shutting Down 5.5

2002-10-14 Thread Martin Blackstone

Well, when E55 first came out, it used to take FOREVER to shut down when
exiting Windows. That has gone away. I don't see anything wrong with
manually shutting down the services, but all you have to do is stop the SA
service. Everything else will follow automatically.
Either way...

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From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Shutting Down 5.5


I have seen arguments both ways and am interested in the list's perspective.

My predecessor here has it drilled into everyone that you have to use his
batch script to stop Exchange services in a certain order. I know the info
store stopping cleanly is the biggest one you want. Has anyone seen or use
something like this to shut down the services in a certain order vs. letting
NT take them down in the dependency order upon shutdown?


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RE: Shutting Down 5.5

2002-10-14 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

I always use:

Control Panel - Services - highlight System Attendant - right-click and
select stop.

It doesn't matter which ones you stop first. If you stop the wrong one, all
dependent ones will stop first, so you don't make any egregious errors.

Be sure to manually stop the spooler service, as well. Sometimes it likes to
take advantage of the extended service shutdown times Exchange allows on the
server.

(:=

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:50 PM
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Subject: Shutting Down 5.5


I have seen arguments both ways and am interested in the list's perspective.

My predecessor here has it drilled into everyone that you have to use his
batch script to stop Exchange services in a certain order. I know the info
store stopping cleanly is the biggest one you want. Has anyone seen or use
something like this to shut down the services in a certain order vs. letting
NT take them down in the dependency order upon shutdown?


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