Re: [expert] MDK7.0 and CD-Writers
OK - I have just found the CD-Writing FAQ's on the web. No doubt I will find my answers in that. Sorry to bother the list, although it would be better in setup if when the CD-Writer was detected (LILO append='hdc=ide-scsi' was set automatically), also to set /etc/fstab to /dev/scd0 rather than /dev/cdrom which is sym-linked to /dev/hdc (in my case)! John On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having just loaded M7.0 I am stuck getting the CD-(re)Writer to work. The unit is a Plextor 8/4/32A and I had to set hdc=ide-scsi in the loader, and insmod ide-scsi to include the module, whereupon I can mount and read a conventional CD. However when writing I clearly need to make a filesystem somehow before it is written. How do I do that? Is there a recommended piece of software? Obviously it won't do it at the moment. The CD was from a PC-Plus (UK mag) cover disk and if I am happy with it I will put up 7.1 etc. My other systems are all RH5.2. I was intending to upgrade to the latest 6.x but the optimised Pentium kernel etc was attractive since I do a lot of numerical calcs. BTW despite requesting NO Graphics, in particular NO KDE, I still find various packages installed such as kdelibs-1.1.2-14mdk kdesupport-1.1.2-11mdk but no other and XFree86-libs-3.3.6-4mdk XFree86-xfs-3.3.6-4mdk xloadimage-4.1-4mdk xpm-3.4k-7mdk xscreensaver-3.18-3mdk xtraceroute-0.8.14-7mdk and probably others that I haven't yet spotted. Any reason why? I want to run the system without X using another machine as the X server. Comments svp. John
Re: [expert] Re: Security warnings @ rc.local
Submitted 07-Jul-00 by Bob Puff@NLE: Ok, so if I'm basically OK, how do I get rid of the daily "security warnings" in my mail? How is this turned off? You need to set a custom security level (preferred) or reduce your security level. custom levels can be defined using /usr/share/msec/custom.sh On another topic: I put some stuff in my rc.local file that is not executing upon bootup. In fact, I don't think -any- of my rc.local is executing, because when I run it manually, my "mods" work fine. What script calls this file? It's not called by a script, per se. There should be a symlink /etc/rc.d/rc[2-5].d/S99local which points to it. P.S. for the sake of readability, please set your mail client to wrap long lines in outgoing messages. -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
Re: [expert] Re: Security warnings @ rc.local
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 01:08:01PM -0400, Bob Puff@NLE wrote: executing upon bootup. In fact, I don't think -any- of my rc.local is To find out if rc.local is executed, rm /etc/issue and reboot. If you still see that penguin ascii image at a console prompt, rc.local is executed. executing, because when I run it manually, my "mods" work fine. What script calls this file? Don't know. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191 PGP signature
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Bob Puff@NLE wrote:
:~ No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and
:~ there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3
:~ public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the
:~ third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good
:~ product (and it is).
:~ but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist), and I still think
:~ that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or any previous
:~ Mandrake release:
:~
:~Well, as someone who had a little experience with 6.1, and recently did several
:installs of 7.1 (never tried 7.0), I would beg to differ with you big time. There
:are some significant bugs dealing mostly with the install that I have posted here,
:but no one has responded. And yes, they will keep 7.1 from installing! Let me see
:if I can recall these:
:~
:~1. The CDROM bug: once you get to where it wants disk #2, the cdrom drive will not
:eject a disk. No way whatsoever to change disks. (I did manage to change the disk
:by powering down the CDROM drive, but then Linux wouldn't recognize it. Happened
:with two out of four computers.
CDROM is supposed to auto eject. It did so on every PC i tried, and on
every PC we had in the company. I admitt that this is unpleasant, but 1-st
CD is enough for basic install, and you can always add packages later.
:~2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt is broken - doesn't work
:at all.
Umpf? Does here, AFAIK. Anyone else has this problem?
:~3. The install program starts up running in high resolution, if it sees you have a
:card that can do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't ask if your monitor can support it,
:and thus my screen turned to hash, and I was unable to install the program.
:(Thankfully I had a multisync monitor on another system that I robbed long enough to
:do the install.) THis should default to 640x480, and ask / let you try higher rez if
:you want.
RTFD: Press F1 in the beginning of the install for help, will you?
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/Install/pages/install1.php3
If I recall it correctly, option is called "vgalow"
:~4. Setup properly detected my 3com 509 network card, then set up the wrong drivers
:for it! (Had to change from whatever it had to the 3com 509 driver, what a concept.)
Send the output of lspcidrake, and we'll fix this. This is really weird.
:~5. Setup did not install the 75dpi or 100dpi fonts, which gave me all sorts of
:error messages when X tried to start.
This is strange. I installed this distro "more than once", and NEVER got
any problems with fonts. What have you done to our poor installer prog?
:~6. My monitor type and card must have been screwed up somewhere in the detection,
:as I couldn't even get 256 colors at 640x480 working on one system. When I tried
:running the XF86setup, it core dumps when you tell it to list devices.
Would it help to tell us: "my monitor (type XY, specs such-and-such) and
VGA-card (type ZX, output of lspcidrake)"... Yup, it would.
:~7. "Automatic setup" is definitely not what anyone should use.
It skips many important steps. Also installs junk packages, and doesn't
install ones that should be installed by default (IMHO).
Automatic setup has only one big minus: It does not configure
networking. Other than that, it is quite nice for what it is supposed to
do: install a cute desktop for unexperienced users. In next version
(7.2?), this install type will install networking, and it will also ask
people how much "junk" they want installed ("minimal/best-of/everything
except servers").
We can argue about "installs junk/does not install important" if you tell
me what is junk, and what is important... Even better: Take a look at
numbers in depslist, change those you think should be changed and send to
me.
:~8. The KDE/X stuff looks like it was pre-configured for 1024x768 rez. WHen you're
:in 640x480, some things are off the screen,
and other boxes are so large you can't even get to an OK or CANCEL
button! Even in Win95, it defaults to the lowest common denominator, and
every window is accessible.
Windows also default to i386 architecture, we do not. We are definitively
not going to optimize the KDE for 640x480. (Is there some simple way to
get a different desktop if resolution is small?)
:~I think that any of these things would cause a newbie to give up, if
they didn't have persistence. I am not a Win95 (or microsoft) fan, but
for the average user, their setup works a whole lot better. From reading
the comments here, it seems that 7.0 didn't have some of the big nasty
bugs that 7.1 has.
Sorry to disapoint you, but I have a feeling that your hardware is
quite unique. Of all the "big nasty bugs" you numbered, only "2" is likely
to affect many people (we'll have to re-check this one, thx), and
"4" falls into "very unpleasant gaf" category (have you tried
"harddrake" after
Re: [expert] Webmin
http://127.0.0.1:1 should ask you for a login. So also, (if lookup is hosts, DNS) should http://localhost.localdomain:1, but the use of nicknames may or may not be supported for this purpose. And no, you should not have to add anything--if inetd is running, and perl is running, then the webmin server should be communicating. Civileme This I have undestood from help...but it does not work...as in my message wrote have tried 'http://localhost:1,http://127.0.0.1:1 etc. but can't get contact...getting message as described in my message. Did I find now something that does not work here?And just posted that everything's working suberb! But this is minor problem...using linux as enduser,only having my sons win machine connected ,so he can do networking via me and I don't have to admin any huge network. Learning more all the time...maybe some day Jarmo
Re: [expert] Convert Win or Be Icons to Linux format?
:~Any suggestions as to what to use? ImageMagick transforms anything to anything .-) cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] removing the 2.2.9 kernel RPMs
:~These RPMs were installed when I installed mdk6.0. Subsequently, :~I've installed 2.2.12 .16 from tarballs. :~ :~Will doing an "rpm -e" on these packages ruin my system by :~erasing the 2.2.16 files? :~ kernel-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-headers-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-doc-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.9-19mdk :~ kernel-source-2.2.9-19mdk No. You can safely remove these packages, you do not need them anymore. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Promise66
:~Hi All, :~ :~ Does anybody run Promise66 card (ATA-66) with mandrake 7.1? :~ If so, did you have to push it or it worked out of the box? :~ Many people. See "forum" article on Promise for details. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] work arounds for known bugs
:~http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliumlast.php3 :~And, READ the doc that comes with your kernel upgrades especially :~if you choose Reiserfs. Special procedures apply to keep it :~running in a kernel upgrade. You will of course want to upgrade :~to the kernel which fixed the suid bit bug. Folks: save yourself some troubles and NEVER upgrade a kernel. INSTALL a new kernel withouth removing the old one, then test the new one, then remove the old one... cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
-Original Message-
From: Denis Havlik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bob Puff@NLE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Expert list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Install
hardware discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Bob Puff@NLE wrote:
:~ No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer
than for 7.0, and
:~ there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of
testing. There were 3
:~ public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug
reports" for the
:~ third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1
will be a good
:~ product (and it is).
:~ but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist),
and I still think
:~ that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or
any previous
:~ Mandrake release:
:~
:~Well, as someone who had a little experience with 6.1, and
recently did several installs of 7.1 (never tried 7.0), I
would beg to differ with you big time. There are some
significant bugs dealing mostly with the install that I have
posted here, but no one has responded. And yes, they will
keep 7.1 from installing! Let me see if I can recall these:
:~
:~1. The CDROM bug: once you get to where it wants disk #2,
the cdrom drive will not eject a disk. No way whatsoever to
change disks. (I did manage to change the disk by powering
down the CDROM drive, but then Linux wouldn't recognize it.
Happened with two out of four computers.
CDROM is supposed to auto eject. It did so on every PC i
tried, and on
every PC we had in the company. I admitt that this is
unpleasant, but 1-st
CD is enough for basic install, and you can always add
packages later.
:~2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt
is broken - doesn't work at all.
Umpf? Does here, AFAIK. Anyone else has this problem?
:~3. The install program starts up running in high
resolution, if it sees you have a card that can do it.
Unfortunately, it doesn't ask if your monitor can support it,
and thus my screen turned to hash, and I was unable to install
the program. (Thankfully I had a multisync monitor on another
system that I robbed long enough to do the install.) THis
should default to 640x480, and ask / let you try higher rez if
you want.
RTFD: Press F1 in the beginning of the install for help, will
you?
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Demo/Mandrake7.1/Insta
ll/pages/install1.php3
If I recall it correctly, option is called "vgalow"
:~4. Setup properly detected my 3com 509 network card, then
set up the wrong drivers for it! (Had to change from whatever
it had to the 3com 509 driver, what a concept.)
Send the output of lspcidrake, and we'll fix this. This is
really weird.
:~5. Setup did not install the 75dpi or 100dpi fonts, which
gave me all sorts of error messages when X tried to start.
This is strange. I installed this distro "more than once",
and NEVER got
any problems with fonts. What have you done to our poor
installer prog?
:~6. My monitor type and card must have been screwed up
somewhere in the detection, as I couldn't even get 256 colors
at 640x480 working on one system. When I tried running the
XF86setup, it core dumps when you tell it to list devices.
Would it help to tell us: "my monitor (type XY, specs
such-and-such) and
VGA-card (type ZX, output of lspcidrake)"... Yup, it would.
:~7. "Automatic setup" is definitely not what anyone should
use.
It skips many important steps. Also installs junk packages,
and doesn't
install ones that should be installed by default (IMHO).
Automatic setup has only one big minus: It does not configure
networking. Other than that, it is quite nice for what it is
supposed to
do: install a cute desktop for unexperienced users. In next
version
(7.2?), this install type will install networking, and it
will also ask
people how much "junk" they want installed
("minimal/best-of/everything
except servers").
We can argue about "installs junk/does not install important"
if you tell
me what is junk, and what is important... Even better: Take a
look at
numbers in depslist, change those you think should be changed
and send to
me.
:~8. The KDE/X stuff looks like it was pre-configured for
1024x768 rez. WHen you're in 640x480, some things are off the
screen,
and other boxes are so large you can't even get to an OK or
CANCEL
button! Even in Win95, it defaults to the lowest common
denominator, and
every window is accessible.
Windows also default to i386 architecture, we do not. We are
definitively
not going to optimize the KDE for 640x480. (Is there some
simple way to
get a different desktop if resolution is small?)
:~I think that any of these things would cause a newbie to
give up, if
they didn't have persistence. I am not a Win95 (or
microsoft) fan, but
for the average user, their setup works a whole lot better.
From reading
the comments here, it seems that 7.0 didn't have some of the
big nasty
bugs that 7.1 has.
Sorry to disapoint you, but I have a feeling that your
[expert] webmin
Hi Webmin is working! Just took NC in use and voila'. Before tried it with KFM's browser,it didn't work. Yes...it is THE MOST POWERFULL toolHave to start learning it now. Tnks for replys...now I know I'm in good hands when asking something from here. Jarmo
[expert] SMP, UDMA, REISERFS, 32GB+
Hello, I have trouble with my system to use UDMA, works 100% with dma
disable
I have mandrake 7.1, ABIT BP6 (dual celeron 366) with htp366 controller
(not-overclock) and some large disks.
Well the systems hangs BAD when I enable UDMA transfer, no logs off the
error just total freeze.
After hours (and lots of coffee) searching for answer, I found this on the
reiser FAQ:
- Can I use 32GB+ IDE Hard Drives with reiserfs ?
-Yes, but you need a patch to work it properly.
-Although, you have to turn DMA off.
So is this true, I have tried to rmod reiserfs and umount disks using reiser
but the problem still occurs, must I compile a new kernel without reiserfs
support???
Have others problem with the htp366 controller when its full (4 disk)???
The system worked with udma when I had 7.0, "only" two 27 gigs and no
reiserfs.
I have tried this without any success:-(
- new kernel update 2.2.16 from mandrake
- kernel 2.4.0-test2 (with reiserfs)
- noapic to boot parameter
System stats:
File system (all jumpers are correct, quadrople checked)
FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 2.8G 1.6G 1.1G 60% / (ext2)
/dev/hde1 42G 27G 15G 65% /mnt/disk0 (reiserfs)
/dev/hdf1 25G 1.6G 22G 7% /mnt/disk1 (ext2)
/dev/hdg1 42G 11G 31G 27% /mnt/disk2 (reiserfs)
/dev/hdh1 25G 23G 1.2G 95% /mnt/disk3 (ext2)
/dev/hdc1 1.2G 1014M 209M 83% /mnt/utskiftbar (vfat)
some drive stats:
hdparm -i /dev/hde
/dev/hde: ( /dev/hdg)
Model=WDC WD450AA, FwRev=10.09K11, SerialNo=WD-WMA2E1006211
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR5Mbs FmtGapReq }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=87930864
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
/dev/hdf:
Model=IBM-DPTA-372730, FwRev=P78OA30A, SerialNo=JRYJRFF7950
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=34
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1961kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=53464320
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
/dev/hdh:
Model=WDC WD273BA, FwRev=P78OA30A, SerialNo=WD-WT9630024232
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=34
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1961kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes, LBAsects=53464320
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
Re: [expert] Problem with RPM hanging...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that when I invoke: rpm -ivh package.somerpm.rpm that the rpm binary hangs and keeps processing forever (until I reboot). Any ideas on this one? It seems to eat up my resources too; I can't even login on another terminal to monitor what's happening. --Matt Before you reboot, do a CtrlAltF2, a `ps -ax | grep rpm', then a `kill -9 number for rpm's process'. That should kill the process so you don't have to reboot. Then do an `rpm --rebuilddb'. I've noticed that doing this helps somewhat when an `rpm -ivh whatever.rpm' takes longer than normal, and this may help your problem. Also, try `man rpm' for more details. HTH
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
Hello Dennis, No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3 public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good product (and it is). but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist), and I still think that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or any previous Mandrake release: Well, as someone who had a little experience with 6.1, and recently did several installs of 7.1 (never tried 7.0), I would beg to differ with you big time. There are some significant bugs dealing mostly with the install that I have posted here, but no one has responded. And yes, they will keep 7.1 from installing! Let me see if I can recall these: 1. The CDROM bug: once you get to where it wants disk #2, the cdrom drive will not eject a disk. No way whatsoever to change disks. (I did manage to change the disk by powering down the CDROM drive, but then Linux wouldn't recognize it. Happened with two out of four computers. 2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt is broken - doesn't work at all. 3. The install program starts up running in high resolution, if it sees you have a card that can do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't ask if your monitor can support it, and thus my screen turned to hash, and I was unable to install the program. (Thankfully I had a multisync monitor on another system that I robbed long enough to do the install.) THis should default to 640x480, and ask / let you try higher rez if you want. 4. Setup properly detected my 3com 509 network card, then set up the wrong drivers for it! (Had to change from whatever it had to the 3com 509 driver, what a concept.) 5. Setup did not install the 75dpi or 100dpi fonts, which gave me all sorts of error messages when X tried to start. 6. My monitor type and card must have been screwed up somewhere in the detection, as I couldn't even get 256 colors at 640x480 working on one system. When I tried running the XF86setup, it core dumps when you tell it to list devices. 7. "Automatic setup" is definitely not what anyone should use. It skips many important steps. Also installs junk packages, and doesn't install ones that should be installed by default (IMHO). 8. The KDE/X stuff looks like it was pre-configured for 1024x768 rez. WHen you're in 640x480, some things are off the screen, and other boxes are so large you can't even get to an OK or CANCEL button! Even in Win95, it defaults to the lowest common denominator, and every window is accessible. I think that any of these things would cause a newbie to give up, if they didn't have persistence. I am not a Win95 (or microsoft) fan, but for the average user, their setup works a whole lot better. From reading the comments here, it seems that 7.0 didn't have some of the big nasty bugs that 7.1 has. Bob
Re: [expert] Re: Security warnings @ rc.local
On another topic: I put some stuff in my rc.local file that is not executing upon bootup. In fact, I don't think -any- of my rc.local is executing, because when I run it manually, my "mods" work fine. What script calls this file? /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S99local is linked to /etc/rc.d/rc.local If you don't see it there, add it with cd /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ ln -s ../rc.local S99local cd /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/ ln -s ../rc.local S99local All files/links you see in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ and /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/ are executed in alphabetical order when booting up. Thanks... Dan.
Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start
On 07 Jul 2000 12:11:04 -0700, you wrote: Steve Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I boot Mandrake 7.1, the run list says at one point "clean-up /tmp". So /tmp is cleared out on every boot. /root/tmp is where the X files are that you shouldn't delete. yes right if you have the variable : CLEAN_TMP=1 in /etc/sysconfig/system set. That's the installation default setting. Steve Stephen B. Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] adding themes w/sawfish and helixgnome
On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: Is sawfish the default wm for helixgnome? I don't even know! I've tried to use the Solaris-CDE theme from the gtk theme package unsuccessfully. Help! Yes, it is, and yes, I've had problems as well. I can't get it to install ANY themes. Besides which, I detest the default mouse behavior (double-click to launch, instead of KDE's single-click) as well as some of the keyboard stuff. For example in KDE I click CTRL+ right arrow to go to the end of the line in KMail. In Helixcode nothing happens with that combo! John John, most text type applications in both winderz and linux will go to the end of a line of text by pressing the "end" key and will go to the start of a line of text by pressing the "home" key. Pretty handy li'l trick... -- Ken Thompson Electrocom Computer Services 1801 Wayne Dr. Payette, Idaho 83661 Ph. (208) 642-7101 (888) 642-7101 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Computer Sales - Service and Repair Internet Web Site Design
Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems pretty obvious that they DIDN'T think about it. i did the implementation of ''Clean up /tmp'' and i don't see what is the problem ? you can have problem if you have a cron who delete the .X* files when X running but since it is only in the initscripts there is _no_ problems. It's been fixed in 7.1 anyway, as I understand it. -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel In 7.0, I deleted my /tmp partition and created a brand new one. Then I rebooted. X would not start. *That* is the problem. /tmp should contain only temporary files; it should be perfectly safe to wipe out the entire contents of /tmp and reboot, but with 7.0 it is not. Again, this is apparently fixed in 7.1, and moreover I don't think it has anything to do with the "clean up /tmp" code; it's a bug in the X fontserver packages, so I'm not blaming you (unless you put those packages together as well). -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] MDK7.0 and CD-Writers
This has nothing to do with MDK per se; check out the HOW-TO, but the short answer is that you need mkisofs and cdrecord or something like that. BUT!! MDK7.0 has a corrupt version mkisofs as originally shipped, so be sure you upgrade that from cooker or someplace. You can download a test program from my home page to verify if you have a bad version of mkisofs or not. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having just loaded M7.0 I am stuck getting the CD-(re)Writer to work. The unit is a Plextor 8/4/32A and I had to set hdc=ide-scsi in the loader, and insmod ide-scsi to include the module, whereupon I can mount and read a conventional CD. However when writing I clearly need to make a filesystem somehow before it is written. How do I do that? Is there a recommended piece of software? Obviously it won't do it at the moment. The CD was from a PC-Plus (UK mag) cover disk and if I am happy with it I will put up 7.1 etc. My other systems are all RH5.2. I was intending to upgrade to the latest 6.x but the optimised Pentium kernel etc was attractive since I do a lot of numerical calcs. BTW despite requesting NO Graphics, in particular NO KDE, I still find various packages installed such as kdelibs-1.1.2-14mdk kdesupport-1.1.2-11mdk but no other and XFree86-libs-3.3.6-4mdk XFree86-xfs-3.3.6-4mdk xloadimage-4.1-4mdk xpm-3.4k-7mdk xscreensaver-3.18-3mdk xtraceroute-0.8.14-7mdk and probably others that I haven't yet spotted. Any reason why? I want to run the system without X using another machine as the X server. Comments svp. John -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Overlay trouble
What in tarnation is a Dyamic Drive Overlay, and why would you expect it to work? Has it worked with other versions of Linux or only with Windows? Nick Meyer wrote: I just got my Mandrake 7.1 CD's, I went to do the upgrade, and it tells me "No root partition found." I'm like, ok, this isn't good. I reboot, and do an install so I can use DiskDrake. That's when it hits. The only thing DiskDrake (and the whole system) recognizes is the Dynamic Drive Overlay "partition." I rebooted the computer and used a floppy to boot so I could be absolutely sure that the overlay software loaded properly. It did, and still, Mandrake only recognized the DDO partition. Is there any remedy to this short of trying to remove the overlay? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nick Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zophar.net -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
[expert] eth0 failing on install
After putting my burner back into my linux box, I couldn't get my SCSI card and burner working so I thought the easiest way would be to reinstall MDK7. I did so, and everything went smooth until I rebooted and couldn't get my eth0 to initialise. I used a dhcp option before, though if I try to use it this time, I cannot access the network. If I manually put in my IP addy, I get an OK when MDK initialises my eth0, but still cannot access the network. I have searched high and low for answers, and if anyone here can help me, I am at wits end and would appreciate it immensely. Thanks, Wayne
Re: [expert] Webmin
The default install do not install webmin, you've to get it done before you can use it. Dennis/sg Try this... http://127.0.0.1:1 that's the correct localhost URL. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Jarmo wrote: Hi Just curious trying webmin,when saw couple of messages of it. Tried to connect http://localhost:1,but got answer file does not exist or acces denied. I can see webmin running,so twisted model please.. What I have to do to get connected...i.e do I need add something to inetd.conf and services? running mdk7.1 kernel 2.2.17mdk ,amd 450MHz 128M ram 10.1 + 1.2G HDs 32x cd SB 128 pci ,realtek pci ether,ati rage pro agp,us robotix sportster flash 56k external modem in ttyS1. Also radioamateur stuff compiled and in use. Boy...everythig's working suberb Jarmo
Re: [expert] FIC AZ11 Duron 600
-Original Message- From: Mike Tracy Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [expert] FIC AZ11 Duron 600 The Voodoo3 installation was bitterly disappointing. I was all prepared for a struggle and ... Smooth as glass. Hmph! Leave it to Mandrake to take the fun out of the install. No challenge. How's your 3d acceleration? I've been struggling to get quake 3 running correctly with the Matrox G400 card, thinking of changing to Voodoo so I can play this game. I've even been trying to get the new DRI running with XFree 4.01 but I'm just not that Linux savvy yet and this is just making me very depressed : ( Thanks, Mike I am using XFree 4.0, but have not added the stuff (if needed) from 3Dfx. As for quake, I'll consider playing when the back door is removed. So far, the video is perfect, but I haven't tried a lot of rendering yet. And I am stuck with a PLANAR with a bum built-in RTL8019 so I am having to use my least favorite tools--Windows and Outlook--to communicate til my PCI Hardware modem arrives. This stupid box doesn't have enough memory to run linux decently, except as a headless gateway, and linux is compalining about interrupts from the on-board ethernet... Urkk! First time I have touched windows in a year--it's So lifeless and powerless! I cannot remember seeing it this way... Civileme Civileme
Re: [expert] Swap Device
Matt, Thanks. I did a reinstall of the system, as I had only had it up for a few days. This solved the problem of the swap device. I made a new partition and used it for swap then. Harry -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Linux System 80769
Re: [expert] Cannot install 7.1, why!?!?
-Original Message- From: Brian T. Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Cannot install 7.1, why!?!? For the Unixly expert but hardwarily newbie among us, how does one go about underclocking (or overclocking, or in general didldling with the clock)? Is there a reference you could point me to? You mean like "overclocker's Anonymous?" ;-} Ummm -- www.google.com search on overclocking. For the Overclocker the best cooling and hardware to cook celery or other fruits is www.computernerd.com How to over/underclock? Some do it with manuals and jumper blocks on the motherboard. Many mainboards are shipped with three adjustments of importance Processor core and I/O voltage (two settings) Front-Side or Main Bus speed (usually 3-4 blocks coding a number of settings from 66MHz to 133MHz) Processor Multiplier (well the shunt of the crystal to the processor clock can be 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4. 4.5, 5 or even more times the bus speed setting. Alternatively, many new boards offer settings in the BIOS and even specific key combos to bypass the rest of the BIOS routines and go directly to the clocks. The AZ-11 from FIC can be set to optimize the speeds and to overvoltage the processor (to push the clock even higher) The only jumpers on the mainboard are overvoltage and CMOS clear. Civileme
Re: [expert] XFree86 4.01
:~XFree86 4.01 just came out. :~ :~How long will it take for MDK 7.1 RPMs to be made? I need 'em since :~XFree86 4 didn't install like I specifically asked it to when installing :~MDK 7.1. Look in cooker, I reckon these RPM-s are already there. -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] root file/dir permission screwup
:~ *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* :~ ^ :~ lines deleted :~ :~ :~Don't know if it is because of thr "trial version" but this is already :~the THIRD time that we see this message on the list. Is there a "loop" :~somewhere ??? Someone uses a trial version of a brain-dead software which loves spamming... He'll get a lot of bounces in the future i am afraid ;- cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] root file/dir permission screwup
:~With a listing of /usr from someone, I was able to correct the :~ones that need to be executable. :~ :~Could someone please send a permission list of /var and /dev :~so I can correct the immediate 'postfix' problem. Oh gee... Just force re-installing of all the packages you have on the system. (save /etc first, then return it back to its place) rpm is your friend... cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake for PPC
:~Saw a reference on one of the Mac sites to the possibility of an upcoming :~release of Mandrake for the PPC. :~ :~Any truth to the rumor? If so, any idea of when a beta might be available? Rumors are right: ML is running on an imac and on an iBook in Paris office. I do not know when will we be ready for a public beta, sorry. cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://forum.mandrakesoft.com
[expert] Man page reader
Given that I've copied my /usr/man directory to a windows partition, would anyone know of a tool for Windows 98 to read man pages in this format? If there's nothing to read the files with then I'll have to accept that, it's just for the convenience of not having to dual boot into Linux every time I'm offline and I need to glimpse at a man page. Thanks, Tony
Re: [expert] Webmin
I didn't see anything indicating the message you got. If you cannot connect that way, it is likely that Webmin is not running--use DrakConf - Traffic signal to make sure it starts. In fact rpm -qa | grep webmin to make sure it is installed. I t does not install by default in all types of installation. Civileme -Original Message- From: Jarmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Webmin http://127.0.0.1:1 should ask you for a login. So also, (if lookup is hosts, DNS) should http://localhost.localdomain:1, but the use of nicknames may or may not be supported for this purpose. And no, you should not have to add anything--if inetd is running, and perl is running, then the webmin server should be communicating. Civileme This I have undestood from help...but it does not work...as in my message wrote have tried 'http://localhost:1,http://127.0.0.1:1 etc. but can't get contact...getting message as described in my message. Did I find now something that does not work here?And just posted that everything's working suberb! But this is minor problem...using linux as enduser,only having my sons win machine connected ,so he can do networking via me and I don't have to admin any huge network. Learning more all the time...maybe some day Jarmo
Re: [expert] Webmin
On Sat, 08 Jul 2000, you wrote: http://127.0.0.1:1 should ask you for a login. So also, (if lookup is hosts, DNS) should http://localhost.localdomain:1, but the use of nicknames may or may not be supported for this purpose. And no, you should not have to add anything--if inetd is running, and perl is running, then the webmin server should be communicating. Civileme This I have undestood from help...but it does not work...as in my message wrote have tried http://localhost:1 http://127.0.0.1:1 etc. but can't get contact...getting message as described in my message. Did I find now something that does not work here?And just posted that everything's working suberb! But this is minor problem...using linux as enduser,only having my sons win machine connected ,so he can do networking via me and I don't have to admin any huge network. Learning more all the time...maybe some day Jarmo Is the server running? Try "ps -ax | grep [miniserv.pl]". I get 747 ?SW 0:00 [miniserv.pl] Try "/usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl" to start it. KFM will not work, you will have success with netscape. Muzza.
Re: [expert] Webmin
G'day, Try this, put "localhost" in "Do not use proxy server for addresses beginning with" in your browser "Advanced Proxy Settings", and see if that helps. - Original Message - From: "Jarmo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2000 23:00 Subject: Re: [expert] Webmin http://127.0.0.1:1 should ask you for a login. So also, (if lookup is hosts, DNS) should http://localhost.localdomain:1, but the use of nicknames may or may not be supported for this purpose. And no, you should not have to add anything--if inetd is running, and perl is running, then the webmin server should be communicating. Civileme This I have undestood from help...but it does not work...as in my message wrote have tried 'http://localhost:1,http://127.0.0.1:1 etc. but can't get contact...getting message as described in my message. Did I find now something that does not work here?And just posted that everything's working suberb! But this is minor problem...using linux as enduser,only having my sons win machine connected ,so he can do networking via me and I don't have to admin any huge network. Learning more all the time...maybe some day Jarmo
[expert] DUPES?
Is the list subscribed again? I seem to be seeing the same message at about 12-hour intervals Civileme
Re: [expert] ssh 2.2 on Mandrake 6.1
More information, and a suggestion for curing it. The problem is this: Mandrake sets up a computer at installation with the hostname of localhost.localdomain. The only way I have found to edit this is the file /etc/sysconfig/network. During boot, this file is used to set the hostname, the contents of the file /etc/HOSTNAME, and some other values. So far so good. I conjecture that X uses the original hostname, stored off somewhere in the mess of X files, to set itself up. I never have learned where that is. Anyone know? The result appears to be that the computer's host name is charlesc, say, but the X system thinks it is running on localhost. So I have to run "xhost charlesc" to allow any user other than the one who launches X to display, even on the same machine. Suggestion to Mandrake: I believe this can be handle by having X use localhost, not the hostname, however derived. The relevance to ssh is this: Apparently I have to run xhost on tester before I can log in to it over ssh, either from the same machine or from another. I found this out by doing a clean install on tester, then immediately installing ssh. When it didn't worked, I backtracked my installation and customization process. I finally realized that the lack of xterms might be related to the host name problem. So I did an xhost, and viola! I could get xterms, and I could log in from any computer I wanted to use. However, I still have to run X in order to run xhost. Since part of my interest here is in running servers without X (let 'em display on my desktop), this limits my interest in ssh. Another problem: the ssh man page says, "The DISPLAY value set by ssh2 will point to the server machine, but with a display number greater than zero. This is normal, and happens because ssh2 creates a "proxy" X server on the server machine for forwarding the connections over the encrypted channel." I do not see this value being set. I cannot yet run an X program (like xclock) on tester and have it display on charlesc. As far as I can tell, X forwarding is enabled. I see this when I log in verbosely: debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:18:06AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: I have two boxes both running Mandrake 6.1, and ssh 2.2 from SSH Communications (http://www.ssh.com/). On both machines I can log in to one machine only, charlesc. I cannot log into the other from either machine. Here is a test run: root@charlesc # /usr/local/bin/ssh -v tester debug: hostname is 'tester'. debug: Unable to open /root/.ssh2/ssh2_config debug: connecting to tester... debug: entering event loop debug: ssh_client_wrap: creating transport protocol debug: SshAuthMethodClient/sshauthmethodc.c:99/ssh_client_authentication_initialize: Added "publickey" to usable methods. debug: SshAuthMethodClient/sshauthmethodc.c:99/ssh_client_authentication_initialize: Added "password" to usable methods. debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:1097/ssh_client_wrap: creating userauth protocol debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:350/ssh_common_wrap: local ip = 192.168.1.3, local port = 2799 debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:352/ssh_common_wrap: remote ip = 192.168.1.12, remote port = 22 debug: SshConnection/sshconn.c:1853/ssh_conn_wrap: Wrapping... debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:593/ssh_tr_input_version: Remote version: SSH-2.0-2.2.0 SSH Secure Shell (non-commercial) debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:399/keycheck_key_match: Host key found from database. debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:189/ssh_common_special: special packet received from connection protocol: 3 debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:189/ssh_common_special: special packet received from connection protocol: 4 debug: Unable to open /root/.ssh2/identification debug: Ssh2AuthClient/sshauthc.c:309/ssh_authc_completion_proc: Method 'publickey' disabled. debug: Ssh2AuthPasswdClient/authc-passwd.c:82/ssh_client_auth_passwd: Starting password query... root's password: debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:189/ssh_common_special: special packet received from connection protocol: 6 Authentication successful. debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:538/ssh_common_new_channel: num_channels now 1 debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. Failed to allocate pty! debug: Ssh2ChannelSession/sshchsession.c:1683/ssh_channel_start_session_completion2: starting session failed: result 0 debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:512/ssh_common_destroy_channel: num_channels now 0 debug: Got session close with exit_status=0 debug: destroying client struct... Connection to tester closed. debug: uninitializing event loop This may be related to an X problem: I can run X, and start applications up normally. But I can't seem to launch an xterm from the pop-up menu or from emacs' shell mode. Emacs reports that the shells (xterm and nxterm) both dump core, but gives no further error message. ccurley@charlesc $ uname -a Linux charlesc 2.2.13-7mdk #1 Wed Sep 15 18:02:18 CEST 1999
[expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found
I sent this to newbie list and perhaps that is where it belongs but the list does not seem to be responding. I am in dire need of help here so I am sending it here. Please excuse me if incorrect. -Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:29 AM To: AA/MandrakeNewbie Subject: xfree86 RPM not found I downloaded the inst and ext iso images for Mandrake 7.1 I burned the cds I created the Boot disk. I did the install but when it got to the xfree86 configure portion I got Error found xfree86 RPM not found. Huu? where is it and what did I do wrong and can I recover without another complete install. This takes forever as it is over 1900 megs for the developer version. TIA -- Gil Baron W0MN http://members.home.net/gbaron/ 44:04:55.9 N 92:30:46.206 W 1050' NAD27 "Hierro candente, batir de repente"
RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
You are lucky if that is all you have. I cannot install because it does not find xfree86 RPM. I amusing the downloaded iso images and that is what I get and I am then dead, no xfree86, no install. Anybody have a solution? You are totally correct about Windows install being VASTLY better! -Original Message- From: Bob Puff@NLE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1 Hello Dennis, No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3 public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good product (and it is). but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist), and I still think that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or any previous Mandrake release: Well, as someone who had a little experience with 6.1, and recently did several installs of 7.1 (never tried 7.0), I would beg to differ with you big time. There are some significant bugs dealing mostly with the install that I have posted here, but no one has responded. And yes, they will keep 7.1 from installing! Let me see if I can recall these: 1. The CDROM bug: once you get to where it wants disk #2, the cdrom drive will not eject a disk. No way whatsoever to change disks. (I did manage to change the disk by powering down the CDROM drive, but then Linux wouldn't recognize it. Happened with two out of four computers. 2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt is broken - doesn't work at all. 3. The install program starts up running in high resolution, if it sees you have a card that can do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't ask if your monitor can support it, and thus my screen turned to hash, and I was unable to install the program. (Thankfully I had a multisync monitor on another system that I robbed long enough to do the install.) THis should default to 640x480, and ask / let you try higher rez if you want. 4. Setup properly detected my 3com 509 network card, then set up the wrong drivers for it! (Had to change from whatever it had to the 3com 509 driver, what a concept.) 5. Setup did not install the 75dpi or 100dpi fonts, which gave me all sorts of error messages when X tried to start. 6. My monitor type and card must have been screwed up somewhere in the detection, as I couldn't even get 256 colors at 640x480 working on one system. When I tried running the XF86setup, it core dumps when you tell it to list devices. 7. "Automatic setup" is definitely not what anyone should use. It skips many important steps. Also installs junk packages, and doesn't install ones that should be installed by default (IMHO). 8. The KDE/X stuff looks like it was pre-configured for 1024x768 rez. WHen you're in 640x480, some things are off the screen, and other boxes are so large you can't even get to an OK or CANCEL button! Even in Win95, it defaults to the lowest common denominator, and every window is accessible. I think that any of these things would cause a newbie to give up, if they didn't have persistence. I am not a Win95 (or microsoft) fan, but for the average user, their setup works a whole lot better. From reading the comments here, it seems that 7.0 didn't have some of the big nasty bugs that 7.1 has. Bob
[expert] php
BS"D Hi, I am trying to get php working on my webserver, but even simple scripts like html headtitlePHP Test/title/head body ?php echo "Hello WorldP"; ? /body /html don't work. I have installed apache and all modules for php that come with Mandrake 7.1. What must be done additionally to get things working ??? Best, Daniel.
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 22:43 -0400, Bob Puff@NLE wrote: Hello people, I just wrote up a file on setting up Dial On Demand with Mandrake 7.x. It provides all the sample files needed. Someone asked about this, so here is the link: http://www.nleaudio.com/bnotes/dialondemand.htm Any comments/suggestions - let me know! A suggestion, though not on the topic itself: Why don't you contribute your stuff about DoD to the mandrakeuser.org and merge it with the stuff Tom has already gathered there? We try to show the MUO as a part of our support system and it would be great if this site would get more of the excellent solutions I often see on this list. I'm sure Tom would appreciate it. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start
On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 11:05:17PM -0600, Steve Browne wrote: On 07 Jul 2000 12:11:04 -0700, you wrote: Steve Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I boot Mandrake 7.1, the run list says at one point "clean-up /tmp". So /tmp is cleared out on every boot. /root/tmp is where the X files are that you shouldn't delete. yes right if you have the variable : CLEAN_TMP=1 in /etc/sysconfig/system set. That's the installation default setting. No, it's not. I haven't touched this file, and mine reads like this: SECURITY=2 TYPE=developer HDPARM=1 CLASS=medium Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191 PGP signature
[expert] Newbie and expert lists duplicated?
Are the messages in the Newbie and expert lists crossposted to each other? I seem to read the same messages in both. Thanks Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
Your best bet would be to order the CD's from one of the many places on the net that you can get them at a real cheap price. There's a guy on the Newbie list that is selling them for $6.50 for the set and you can get them at Cheapbytes also. I bought the install extension CD's for #3.99. Seven days later I was installing them on my system. Here's the URL for Cheapbytes: http://www.cheapbytes.com -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Gil Baron W0MN wrote: You are lucky if that is all you have. I cannot install because it does not find xfree86 RPM. I amusing the downloaded iso images and that is what I get and I am then dead, no xfree86, no install. Anybody have a solution? You are totally correct about Windows install being VASTLY better! -Original Message- From: Bob Puff@NLE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1 Hello Dennis, No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3 public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good product (and it is). but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist), and I still think that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or any previous Mandrake release: Well, as someone who had a little experience with 6.1, and recently did several installs of 7.1 (never tried 7.0), I would beg to differ with you big time. There are some significant bugs dealing mostly with the install that I have posted here, but no one has responded. And yes, they will keep 7.1 from installing! Let me see if I can recall these: 1. The CDROM bug: once you get to where it wants disk #2, the cdrom drive will not eject a disk. No way whatsoever to change disks. (I did manage to change the disk by powering down the CDROM drive, but then Linux wouldn't recognize it. Happened with two out of four computers. 2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt is broken - doesn't work at all. 3. The install program starts up running in high resolution, if it sees you have a card that can do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't ask if your monitor can support it, and thus my screen turned to hash, and I was unable to install the program. (Thankfully I had a multisync monitor on another system that I robbed long enough to do the install.) THis should default to 640x480, and ask / let you try higher rez if you want. 4. Setup properly detected my 3com 509 network card, then set up the wrong drivers for it! (Had to change from whatever it had to the 3com 509 driver, what a concept.) 5. Setup did not install the 75dpi or 100dpi fonts, which gave me all sorts of error messages when X tried to start. 6. My monitor type and card must have been screwed up somewhere in the detection, as I couldn't even get 256 colors at 640x480 working on one system. When I tried running the XF86setup, it core dumps when you tell it to list devices. 7. "Automatic setup" is definitely not what anyone should use. It skips many important steps. Also installs junk packages, and doesn't install ones that should be installed by default (IMHO). 8. The KDE/X stuff looks like it was pre-configured for 1024x768 rez. WHen you're in 640x480, some things are off the screen, and other boxes are so large you can't even get to an OK or CANCEL button! Even in Win95, it defaults to the lowest common denominator, and every window is accessible. I think that any of these things would cause a newbie to give up, if they didn't have persistence. I am not a Win95 (or microsoft) fan, but for the average user, their setup works a whole lot better. From reading the comments here, it seems that 7.0 didn't have some of the big nasty bugs that 7.1 has. Bob
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
Denis Havlik wrote: No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3 public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good product (and it is). Oh, dear, where have you been? I reported one show-stopper on beta 3, and labelled my message about in in the cooker mailing list as "SHOW STOPPER". As usual, there was no response from Mandrake, and the release proceeded regardless. This is a damning indictment of your procedures, so let us please have no more delusional postings such as the parent to this message. Mandrake does not run any activity which could rightly be called a beta test - that's a simple fact! What was being tested was changing nearly every day! -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.
Re: [expert] XFree86 4.01
Denis Havlik wrote: :~XFree86 4.01 just came out. :~ :~How long will it take for MDK 7.1 RPMs to be made? I need 'em since :~XFree86 4 didn't install like I specifically asked it to when installing :~MDK 7.1. Look in cooker, I reckon these RPM-s are already there. How trustworthy are these RPM's? For example, the install on MDK 7.1 said the Xfree86 4.0 is was installing was only a 'snapshot release.' The really upsets me if it is, because it sure as hell wasn't advertised as being so... If not, then that's just another example of MDK's poor quality control when it comes to installations. Ack, ranting, sorry. Just woke up. ~,^ Sean Middleditch
Re: [expert] php
Daniel Hammer wrote: BS"D Hi, I am trying to get php working on my webserver, but even simple scripts like html headtitlePHP Test/title/head body ?php echo "Hello WorldP"; ? /body /html Hi. Make sure you have PHP configured in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf. For example, when I installed MDK 7.1, PHP was enables, but not for index pages with a .phtml extension, so I had to change that. Just make sure it is all set up. Also, check the php3.ini file. Sean Middleditch
Re: [expert] php
Daniel Hammer wrote on Sun Jul 09, 2000 at 02:02:46PM: I am trying to get php working on my webserver, but even simple scripts like html headtitlePHP Test/title/head body ?php echo "Hello WorldP"; ? /body /html don't work. I have installed apache and all modules for php that come with Mandrake 7.1. What must be done additionally to get things working ??? does your webserver parse the files for php-code? i have both php3 and php4 installed (compiled from sources) and had to add --snip LoadModule php3_modulelibexec/libphp3.so LoadModule php4_modulelibexec/libphp4.so AddModule mod_php3.c AddModule mod_php4.c AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps --snip to the appropriate sections of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf hth, matthias
[expert] PCMCAI mdemm problems
Hello all, I have just installed Helium on my lapton which has a PCMCIA modem card (a 3Com 3CX0M56B Modem). When I went to set this up in DrakConf, under HardWare configurations, it froze at detecting modems. The install did not recognize this card at all. How do I get this card recognized as a modem? What steps do I have to go through. Thank you for your help. Regards, Gary
Re: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found
-Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:29 AM To: AA/MandrakeNewbie Subject: xfree86 RPM not found I downloaded the inst and ext iso images for Mandrake 7.1 I burned the cds I created the Boot disk. I did the install but when it got to the xfree86 configure portion I got Error found xfree86 RPM not found. 1. You did not tell on what Stage you have this error ? 2. What Install method did you use ? 3. Did you complete your install correctly ? 4. what Hardware do you have (Graphic Card etc.) ? 5. If you're unable to ake a Graphical Install, make a Text-Install ? Not beeing happy about something is Ok. But you can belong to those people who would like to make a change about it, so provide Informations if you request help. The way you did it, is just wrong. Provide some Informations, and we might help you. Cya -- The "cutting edge" is getting rather dull. -- Andy Purshottam | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : http://www.solsys.org | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Data, Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | PGP fingerprint: 6D E9 7B 04 57 7B 65 42 B7 7A D0 AA 69 95 7C E1
Re: [expert] adding themes w/sawfish and helixgnome
I just wish I could sawfish to run! I wouldn't mind seeing what it looks like, but when I try to access it thru the normal methods nothing happens. Any suggestions? -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: Is sawfish the default wm for helixgnome? I don't even know! I've tried to use the Solaris-CDE theme from the gtk theme package unsuccessfully. Help! Yes, it is, and yes, I've had problems as well. I can't get it to install ANY themes. Besides which, I detest the default mouse behavior (double-click to launch, instead of KDE's single-click) as well as some of the keyboard stuff. For example in KDE I click CTRL+ right arrow to go to the end of the line in KMail. In Helixcode nothing happens with that combo! John
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
Hi Bob and all, Bob, this is excellent and works really well! Now if we could get it to initiate kppp ...so you could see the modem traffic and see throughput without looking at the log. Haven't put it in the rc file yet...but works really well from the terminal so far. We are testing it at the moment. Thanks so much, Bambi "Bob Puff@NLE" wrote: Hello people, I just wrote up a file on setting up Dial On Demand with Mandrake 7.x. It provides all the sample files needed. Someone asked about this, so here is the link: http://www.nleaudio.com/bnotes/dialondemand.htm Any comments/suggestions - let me know! Bob
Re: [expert] Problem downloading 7.1 ISO file
M Thompson wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Chunnuan, I highly recommend using a download manager There are plenty available for Windows (ex: Go!Zilla, GetRight, etc) and some around for Linux (ex: wget). caitoo! the best! -sarang HTH, Matt From: Chunnuan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Problem downloading 7.1 ISO file Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 01:09:31 -0700 Hi, I tried to download the iso file of the 7.1 LM from the download sites listed in their website. The download always became stalled after 7%. I tried many sites but found the same problem. Has anybody out there seen the same problem? Is there a site which has so such problem? Thanks a lot, Chunnuan Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
I was wondering. What happens to the connection when the app initiating the connection is closed or dies? Also, for some reason when I tried to start the process of installing this I issued the launch command for the dialer from a terminal window per the instructions and all I was able to get to happen was the modem would continue to dial up the ISP. It wouldn't complete the connection. Any suggestions? thanks... -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Fran Parker wrote: Hi Bob and all, Bob, this is excellent and works really well! Now if we could get it to initiate kppp ...so you could see the modem traffic and see throughput without looking at the log. Haven't put it in the rc file yet...but works really well from the terminal so far. We are testing it at the moment. Thanks so much, Bambi "Bob Puff@NLE" wrote: Hello people, I just wrote up a file on setting up Dial On Demand with Mandrake 7.x. It provides all the sample files needed. Someone asked about this, so here is the link: http://www.nleaudio.com/bnotes/dialondemand.htm Any comments/suggestions - let me know! Bob
Re: [expert] Overlay trouble
it has worked with RedHat 6.0, 6.1, Mandrake 7.0. But not 7.1. a dynamic drive overly is software that the hard drive puts in the REAL master boot record, which allows the bios to access parts of the drive it may be incapable of doing alone. On another note, I got the info I needed, so don't worry about me anymore. Thanks for your help everyone. Nick - Original Message - From: Brian T. Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Overlay trouble What in tarnation is a Dyamic Drive Overlay, and why would you expect it to work? Has it worked with other versions of Linux or only with Windows? Nick Meyer wrote: I just got my Mandrake 7.1 CD's, I went to do the upgrade, and it tells me "No root partition found." I'm like, ok, this isn't good. I reboot, and do an install so I can use DiskDrake. That's when it hits. The only thing DiskDrake (and the whole system) recognizes is the Dynamic Drive Overlay "partition." I rebooted the computer and used a floppy to boot so I could be absolutely sure that the overlay software loaded properly. It did, and still, Mandrake only recognized the DDO partition. Is there any remedy to this short of trying to remove the overlay? Thanks for any help you can provide. Nick Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.zophar.net -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
[snip] Why don't you contribute your stuff about DoD to the mandrakeuser.org and merge it with the stuff Tom has already gathered there? We try to show the MUO as a part of our support system and it would be great if this site would get more of the excellent solutions I often see on this list. I'm sure Tom would appreciate it. Sure if you could get him to actuall post the stuff you send him. I've sent him things a few time (in feb) and they still aren't posted so I stopped trying. === "... all thoughts of selfish desire, ill-will, hatred and violence are the result of a lack of wisdom ... " - Buddha For an awsome fantasy role playing game checkout: http://members.xoom.com/Lycadican ===
[expert] USB modem
Hi folks, I have recently installed Linux Mandrake 7.1 on my system. My USB external modem is not getting installed and configured all by itself. I tried to query the modem thru kppp and it says that the modem is busy. Do I need to meddle with the Bios to get the modem working??? Can someone help me in this regard. Thankyou Pavan My system's config is INtel Celeron with intel 810 chipset and the best data modem external usb modem is on com2. I chose to put the modem on com2 as it is on com2 in windows. = pavan kumar bayyapu 200 Oakcrest Drive, UPA #162 Lafayette LA-70503 Phone: 337-262-0283 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start
"Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: X would not start. *That* is the problem. /tmp should contain only temporary files; it should be perfectly safe to wipe out the entire contents of /tmp and reboot, but with 7.0 it is not. what is the permission of your /tmp dir ? 1777 ? need them for xfs. Again, this is apparently fixed in 7.1, and moreover I don't think it has anything to do with the "clean up /tmp" code; it's a bug in the X fontserver packages, so I'm not blaming you (unless you put those packages together as well). -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
Sheldon Lee Wen wrote: [snip] Why don't you contribute your stuff about DoD to the mandrakeuser.org and merge it with the stuff Tom has already gathered there? We try to show the MUO as a part of our support system and it would be great if this site would get more of the excellent solutions I often see on this list. I'm sure Tom would appreciate it. Sure if you could get him to actuall post the stuff you send him. I've sent him things a few time (in feb) and they still aren't posted so I stopped trying. What about making it into a HOWTO for the LDP? After all, that's a Hell of a lot more useful to people than the Mandrake-User site. For starts, a Linux HOWTO is usable by everyone with a recent version of PPPD and CHAT, and the Mandrake-User site has got to be the single worst document site I have ever visited: the layout needs a make-over, there needs to be a message posting/discussion capability for every available document (one or two of them really need more explanation), and that green honestly offends my eyeballs (note: and my favorite color IS green, too). In any event, a HOWTO submitted to the LDP would be really nice. A lot of their documentation is still incomplete or out-of-date, especially the dial-up stuff. Sean Middleditch
Re: [expert] SMP, UDMA, REISERFS, 32GB+
-Original Message-
From: Morten Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 2:26 AM
Subject: [expert] SMP, UDMA, REISERFS, 32GB+
Hello, I have trouble with my system to use UDMA, works 100%
with dma
disable
I have mandrake 7.1, ABIT BP6 (dual celeron 366) with htp366
controller
(not-overclock) and some large disks.
Well the systems hangs BAD when I enable UDMA transfer, no
logs off the
error just total freeze.
After hours (and lots of coffee) searching for answer, I
found this on the
reiser FAQ:
- Can I use 32GB+ IDE Hard Drives with reiserfs ?
-Yes, but you need a patch to work it properly.
-Although, you have to turn DMA off.
So is this true, I have tried to rmod reiserfs and umount
disks using reiser
but the problem still occurs, must I compile a new kernel
without reiserfs
support???
Have others problem with the htp366 controller when its full
(4 disk)???
The system worked with udma when I had 7.0, "only" two 27
gigs and no
reiserfs.
I have tried this without any success:-(
- new kernel update 2.2.16 from mandrake
- kernel 2.4.0-test2 (with reiserfs)
- noapic to boot parameter
System stats:
File system (all jumpers are correct, quadrople checked)
FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 2.8G 1.6G 1.1G 60% / (ext2)
/dev/hde1 42G 27G 15G 65% /mnt/disk0
(reiserfs)
/dev/hdf1 25G 1.6G 22G 7% /mnt/disk1
(ext2)
/dev/hdg1 42G 11G 31G 27% /mnt/disk2
(reiserfs)
/dev/hdh1 25G 23G 1.2G 95% /mnt/disk3 (ext2)
/dev/hdc1 1.2G 1014M 209M 83% /mnt/utskiftbar
(vfat)
some drive stats:
hdparm -i /dev/hde
/dev/hde: ( /dev/hdg)
Model=WDC WD450AA, FwRev=10.09K11, SerialNo=WD-WMA2E1006211
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed
DTR5Mbs FmtGapReq }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=40
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16,
MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes,
LBAsects=87930864
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120},
tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
/dev/hdf:
Model=IBM-DPTA-372730, FwRev=P78OA30A, SerialNo=JRYJRFF7950
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=34
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1961kB, MaxMultSect=16,
MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes,
LBAsects=53464320
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120},
tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
/dev/hdh:
Model=WDC WD273BA, FwRev=P78OA30A, SerialNo=WD-WT9630024232
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=34
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1961kB, MaxMultSect=16,
MultSect=16
CurCHS=65535/1/63, CurSects=4128705, LBA=yes,
LBAsects=53464320
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120},
tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
Very large Reiserfs might(tm) be ONE of your problems, but the
reason I believe you might be experiencing hard locks is here
http://kt.linuxcare.com/kt2214_54.epl2nd article
This is from February, yet nothing indicates that the hardware
manufacturer has changed anything since.
To see if that might be the source of our problem, try
compiling in 386 code for the kernel. You may avoid the
hard-lock that way.
Civileme
[expert] CD burner Howto..
Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to install a CD burner on a working system?? I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to ADD a cd burner to a working system. The old CD-ROM has been replaced with the CD R/RW/ROM. I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find it. Obiously, I did something wrong.. Any advice is welcome. Alan
Re: [expert] Man page reader
-Original Message- From: Tony McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 4:37 AM Subject: [expert] Man page reader Given that I've copied my /usr/man directory to a windows partition, would anyone know of a tool for Windows 98 to read man pages in this format? If there's nothing to read the files with then I'll have to accept that, it's just for the convenience of not having to dual boot into Linux every time I'm offline and I need to glimpse at a man page. Thanks, Tony GO here http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm And be sure to read the FAQ and related stuff. You do not have to copy the directory to a FAT32 partition to be able to read it from WIN. I do think that it is singularly dangerous to write anything from win to linux, even with this tool, but reading should be (comparatively) safe. Civileme
[expert] SCSI Possible Problem, Help Needed
Hi all: I have Mandrake 7.1 and over this weekend I have installed a SCSI card. This is first SCSI card in the system. The hardware configuration program came up and detected the new card on boot-up and configured it. I have found out that the card was correctly identified at hardware detection and is properly listed in the hardware list. My problem is that the only device attached to the card a UMAX S 6E scanner is not seen by sane when I try to configure it. I have also noted that when I reboot the SCSI card is not noticed. The system states, SCSI: 0 Host SCSI: DEDECTED or something to that effect. I have looked around the Mandrake Users org but can not find anything that points me in the direction to go. Can anyone point me where to look to correct this problem? Thanks in advance. -- Ralph F. De Witt Proud user of Mandrake 7.1 Linux Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 No Windoze were broken in the making of this Message. "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" -Benjamin Franklin
[expert] kimap KDE
Cheers I would like to know how do to build or to obtain a kimap, of KDE, for my tongue. I had install Mandrake 7.1 with the keyboard and tongue of my country (Brazil). In the console (way text) he works very good, but when I enter in the graphic environment as the of KDE, don't manage to use my keyboard. I saw that he doesn't own the map of my keyboard, which I think that would be something how pt_BR.kimap. Because of this I ask to the support personnel of Mandrake: as I build one or where can obtain one already ready, because I imagine that there am already, doesn't serve Portugal's portuguese kimap. If it is other alternative, please tell me. Thanks by the attention. -- João Carlos [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ - 33.965.439 usuário Linux # 106644
[expert] SMP,UDMA, REISERFS, 32GB+
I am not sure about this or what the difference is, but my BP6 system is using two 7200RPM Western Digital drives on the HPT366 controller ide3 port with hde20.5GB and hdf 15.5GB, without any problems. I had WD drives in my other systems, and never thought there would be a problem using these drives on an SMP machine. I am still running Mandrake 7.0 linux, and am going to wait to see what happens befor I try upgrading to 7.1 or later mandrake distrobution
Re: [expert] adding themes w/sawfish and helixgnome
Mark Weaver wrote: I just wish I could sawfish to run! I wouldn't mind seeing what it looks like, but when I try to access it thru the normal methods nothing happens. Any suggestions? -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 Well, Helix sort-of bombed during the install. Don't know if this is standard or not. And when I logged in after the reboot I was in the enlightenment desktop. So I told it to switch to SawFish, and it said it did, but it didn't. Log out and back in didn't fix it. So I switched to another desktop (fvm or something), applied it, switched back to sawfish, applied it, and then I could configure it, etc. No real problems since with SawFish. Problem now are that all the KDE tools are inactive if I switch back to KDE's desktop. Not good. I'm considering re-installing KDE from the original disks. Wonder if that would disrupt the Gnome? -- Charles Hixson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Man page reader
Tony McGee wrote: Given that I've copied my /usr/man directory to a windows partition, would anyone know of a tool for Windows 98 to read man pages in this format? Well, you could go to http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/ , it is a UNIX emulation program, and man comes as standard. May you live long and spamless, Andreas Bergstrøm -- HTTP://www.thespambuster.net/ Fight Spam! Join EuroCAUCE! == http://www.euro.cauce.org/ Using Linux? Register at: http://counter.li.org/ DCLXVI - Roman numeral of the Beast
Re: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found
-Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AA/MandrakeExpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:35 AM Subject: [expert] FW: xfree86 RPM not found I sent this to newbie list and perhaps that is where it belongs but the list does not seem to be responding. I am in dire need of help here so I am sending it here. Please excuse me if incorrect. -Original Message- From: Gil Baron W0MN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:29 AM To: AA/MandrakeNewbie Subject: xfree86 RPM not found I downloaded the inst and ext iso images for Mandrake 7.1 Did you run md5sum? Well, if you didn't have linux already, you probably could not have. I burned the cds I created the Boot disk. I did the install but when it got to the xfree86 configure portion I got Error found xfree86 RPM not found. so continue the install to the end without X Then goto ftp://ftp/linux.tucows.com/pub/distributions/Mandrake/Mandrake but do it with an ftp program or netscape, not MSIE which will bomb. There under 7.1 under RPMS search for packages beginning with the name XF and download them then start linux (without X) login as root and copy the files to /root and # rpm -ivh XF*.rpm If you get complains about missing libraries try the same command line with --nodeps added after the -ivh and surrounded by spaces. Once that is complete # Xconfigurator will start installing the X What has happened is that your download is corrupted, or your media is bad or your cables are loose to the CD or the burner. I just finished an install of about 28 minutes where I was a spectator except to tell Linux-Mandrake's install program a few IPs and what printer I was using. And this was no ordinary hardware but some REALLY tough choices. Win98 would have called for no fewer than 5 driver disks and still messed up (I had two ethernet cards and 98 could see either one, but missed them both when they were both installed. And when I tried to use the install hardware wizard -- It revolted (no no no, I have to detect that for you)) 98 never did install. Civileme Huu? where is it and what did I do wrong and can I recover without another complete install. This takes forever as it is over 1900 megs for the developer version. TIA -- Gil Baron W0MN http://members.home.net/gbaron/ 44:04:55.9 N 92:30:46.206 W 1050' NAD27 "Hierro candente, batir de repente"
Re: [expert] Newbie and expert lists duplicated?
-Original Message- From: Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 6:52 AM Subject: [expert] Newbie and expert lists duplicated? Are the messages in the Newbie and expert lists crossposted to each other? I seem to read the same messages in both. Thanks Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read the headers--some folks are shotgunning their messages to both lists. Then the replies show up on both lists and Civileme
Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: X would not start. *That* is the problem. /tmp should contain only temporary files; it should be perfectly safe to wipe out the entire contents of /tmp and reboot, but with 7.0 it is not. what is the permission of your /tmp dir ? 1777 ? need them for xfs. Again, this is apparently fixed in 7.1, and moreover I don't think it has anything to do with the "clean up /tmp" code; it's a bug in the X fontserver packages, so I'm not blaming you (unless you put those packages together as well). -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel This is a problem I reported months ago; civilme diagnosed it, and it was apparently fixed for 7.1; it's not a problem that is causing me active difficulty. (It was causing somebody else active difficulties which is how this thread re-surfaced.) My /tmp dir has 1777 permissions now; I believe that I gave it such permissions as soon as I re-created it, but I could be mistaken. I *do* know that re-booting did not fix the problem, but re-installing the X font server package did; would it have reset the permissions to 1777 for me? Seems implausible, but one never knows . . . -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] USB modem
-Original Message- From: pavan bayyapu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: [expert] USB modem Hi folks, I have recently installed Linux Mandrake 7.1 on my system. My USB external modem is not getting installed and configured all by itself. I tried to query the modem thru kppp and it says that the modem is busy. Do I need to meddle with the Bios to get the modem working??? Can someone help me in this regard. Thankyou Pavan My system's config is INtel Celeron with intel 810 chipset and the best data modem external usb modem is on com2. I chose to put the modem on com2 as it is on com2 in windows. = pavan kumar bayyapu 200 Oakcrest Drive, UPA #162 Lafayette LA-70503 Phone: 337-262-0283 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Read the box your modem came in--bet it says "Requires Windows 95 or 98, 166MHz or faster Pentium type processor" or words to that effect. I don't know if there are any true modems on the USB--just modem-like devices driven by software (sometimes miscalled winmodems) is all that I have seen sold. Linux is likely _never_ to support this sort of modem, which really isn't a modem. The issues are that some of the software driving them is *patented* and *secret*. Binary-only drivers, sitting in the core of the operating system, is a great way to be unable to tell if your system will remain *stable* or not. That is anathema to the linux community. Example: The Personal Internet Appliance (PIA) sold at www.planetpia.com is a cheap mobo with a PCTel software modem (including a linux driver). I support three people who have them. All three have reported hard-lock crashes (and I teach them program crash recovery first thing--how to kill a crashed program without rebooting) and this off a well-cooled moderately clocked mobo running Debian--the most conservative of the major distros. I cannot tell for sure if it is the modem code, but in most cases the crashes came from playing an online game. Civileme
[expert] This thing called C.
Hello all, I'm a budding C/C++ coder and have signed up for a class for beginning C/C++ students. All is fine till I get to "Code Warrior" and being of little means, I can only afford to get the "starters version" in Windoze verses the "real version" for Linux that's $49 vs. $90 so I guess I will take a course in Windoze C++. I hope the lessons learned will apply to "Code Crusader" or KDevelop which I already have. Does anyone know of any classes on the Web for Linux?? Is there an "open source University" yet?? vern
Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
Ron Stodden wrote: Denis Havlik wrote: No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3 public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good product (and it is). Oh, dear, where have you been? I reported one show-stopper on beta 3, and labelled my message about in in the cooker mailing list as "SHOW STOPPER". As usual, there was no response from Mandrake, and the release proceeded regardless. This is a damning indictment of your procedures, so let us please have no more delusional postings such as the parent to this message. Mandrake does not run any activity which could rightly be called a beta test - that's a simple fact! What was being tested was changing nearly every day! Correction to my last: The show-stopper reported the installer's failure to install nfs-utils, which contains exportfs, without which no mount points can be exported for use by specified other machines on the network. An attempt to manually install the nfs-utils RPM leads to reporting of a conflict with the quota RPM. This did produce a response from Mandrake's Warly on 18th June: "Yes you r right nfs-utils conflicts with quota, this gonna be corrected. "This is our fault but it is hard to test all the combination of installed packages, and this is why you, cooker members, are so precious to us." However, Mandrake Updates does not even yet include any fix for either RPM, so 7.1 remains unsuitable for installing on any machine where networking is required. This is not the only problem with networking - the nfs daemon never gets started is another show stopper. There are more. Show stoppers? Denis Havlik responsibly decides, it seems, but does not bother to communicate his decisions or tolerate review of them. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux.
Re: [expert] This thing called C.
vern wrote: Hello all, I'm a budding C/C++ coder and have signed up for a class for beginning C/C++ students. All is fine till I get to "Code Warrior" and being of little means, I can only afford to get the "starters version" in Windoze verses the "real version" for Linux that's $49 vs. $90 so I guess I will take a course in Windoze C++. I hope the lessons learned will apply to "Code Crusader" or KDevelop which I already have. Does anyone know of any classes on the Web for Linux?? Is there an "open source University" yet?? vern Well, any good university will have UNIX programming courses. I'm taking a class at a community college write now in advanced C++ (unfortunately, I knew all of it before I got into the class, so it was a bit of a waste), and as for cost, well, I'm not even a senior in high school yet and I have both time and money to take these courses. Also, I don't recommend buying an IDE... You could have gotten the Borland IDE for free, which used to be the best (until Microsoft made it near impossible to get anything useful done in Windows without VC++). And Linux of course has many good ones (KDevelop if you're a KDE fanatic, CodeCommander if you're a GNOME lover, and the command line if you're just plain smart ~,^ ). KDevelop I believe is the best graphical IDE I've seen so far (VC++ has some really niftified features, but I believe the latest KDevelop has most/all of them). CodeCommander is a pleasure to use, although its not quite up to par (yet), and the command-line is more integrated than anything else, since you can use ANY tell to help you get your work done, i.e. you're whole system is integrated to help get development done. But that's just an opinion... (what can I say, I was taught to program on DOS with Turbo C++ and DJGPP by a UofM UNIX sys admin major when I was 12, the command line's power pulses thru my veins!!) OK, minus all the bull, check out the O'Reilly books. They are the best. Period. Anything from learning something, to mastering to, to specific uses, to references, O'Reilly has a book for it, and I will guarantee it will be one of the best. I haven't read an O'Reilly C++ book, but I have glanced thru them, and they surely beat everything I have on my bookshelf. One of these I might just pick one up if I ever find a need for more C++ stuff (which I doubt I will, unfortunately). Yadda yadda yadda, there I go babbling on for two-hundred pages for somthing relatively simple... ::sigh:: Sean Middleditch
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
Scratches head Did someone change kpppload? I used to run it to see the load all the time WITHOUT using Kppp to set up the modem. KNETLoad also can be set to view the ppp interface. and parks neatly on the panel Civileme -Original Message- From: Eugene C. Zesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Dial on Demand Fran Parker wrote: Hi Bob and all, Bob, this is excellent and works really well! Now if we could get it to initiate kppp ...so you could see the modem traffic and see throughput without looking at the log. Haven't put it in the rc file yet...but works really well from the terminal so far. We are testing it at the moment. Thanks so much, Bambi Excellent set of instructions. As for as a quick check of modem traffic, I suggest kmodem which will dock a little flashing icon on the taskbar just like in that GUI for DOS. Get it from http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/suse/6.3/i386/suse/kpa1/kmodem- 1.2.1-74.i386.html I've found it works well in Mandrake. Gene
Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..
I followed the instructions at: http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/cdr/html/CD-Writing-2.html for setup, and it worked just fine. (replaced IDE cd-rom with IDE cd-writer) Jay Summet On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, you wrote: Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to install a CD burner on a working system?? I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to ADD a cd burner to a working system. The old CD-ROM has been replaced with the CD R/RW/ROM. I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find it. Obiously, I did something wrong.. Any advice is welcome. Alan --
RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1
True. The Windows installation is typically easier than *any* linux distro, even the almighty (and it is, IMHO) Mandrake. Consider the fact that Microsoft spends $$ on employees whose sole purpose is to understand how the computer disinclined people think. Consider the fact that Microsoft founded itself with the purpose of producing an OS that *anyone* can install and use on *any* machine (i386 based mostly). Unix did not start out with that purpose and Linux is just realizing this purpose, but doesn't have the financial backing to support it the way Microsoft has. Linux is for sure on the way however, and Mandrake (IMHO) is really helping to push this. From: "Gil Baron W0MN" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:17:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [216.71.84.35] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBB31D3DD006ED82197E8D847542304BB0; Sun Jul 09 07:14:54 2000 Received: (from sympa@localhost)by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27145for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 09:14:42 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01378 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 06:17:08 -0500 Received: from cb621265a ([24.6.0.62]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id 2709111713.RZIV1229.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@cb621265a for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 04:17:13 -0700 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 09 07:17:15 2000 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Importance: Normal X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sequence: 133 Precedence: list You are lucky if that is all you have. I cannot install because it does not find xfree86 RPM. I amusing the downloaded iso images and that is what I get and I am then dead, no xfree86, no install. Anybody have a solution? You are totally correct about Windows install being VASTLY better! -Original Message- From: Bob Puff@NLE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] MaximumLinux Magazine CD version of 7.1 Hello Dennis, No. Our beta-testing period for 7.1 was 3-4 x longer than for 7.0, and there was nothing even near to "abrupt cesation" of testing. There were 3 public betas, and we did not receive any "critical bug reports" for the third one, so we had all the reason to beleive that 7.1 will be a good product (and it is). but none are really "show stoppers" (workarounds exist), and I still think that overal quality of 7.1 is miles better than 7.0, or any previous Mandrake release: Well, as someone who had a little experience with 6.1, and recently did several installs of 7.1 (never tried 7.0), I would beg to differ with you big time. There are some significant bugs dealing mostly with the install that I have posted here, but no one has responded. And yes, they will keep 7.1 from installing! Let me see if I can recall these: 1. The CDROM bug: once you get to where it wants disk #2, the cdrom drive will not eject a disk. No way whatsoever to change disks. (I did manage to change the disk by powering down the CDROM drive, but then Linux wouldn't recognize it. Happened with two out of four computers. 2. The way to start the install program from a DOS prompt is broken - doesn't work at all. 3. The install program starts up running in high resolution, if it sees you have a card that can do it. Unfortunately, it doesn't ask if your monitor can support it, and thus my screen turned to hash, and I was unable to install the program. (Thankfully I had a multisync monitor on another system that I robbed long enough to do the install.) THis should default to 640x480, and ask / let you try higher rez if you want. 4. Setup properly detected my 3com 509 network card, then set up the wrong drivers for it! (Had to change from whatever it had to the 3com 509 driver, what a concept.) 5. Setup did not install the 75dpi or 100dpi fonts, which gave me all sorts of error messages when X tried to start. 6. My monitor type and card must have been screwed up somewhere in the detection, as I couldn't even get 256 colors at 640x480 working on one system. When I tried running the XF86setup, it core dumps when you tell it to list devices. 7. "Automatic setup" is definitely not what anyone should use. It skips many important steps. Also installs junk packages, and doesn't install ones that should be installed by default (IMHO). 8. The KDE/X stuff looks like it was
Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..
-Original Message- From: Alan N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 11:22 AM Subject: [expert] CD burner Howto.. Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to install a CD burner on a working system?? I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to ADD a cd burner to a working system. The old CD-ROM has been replaced with the CD R/RW/ROM. I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find it. Obiously, I did something wrong.. Any advice is welcome. Alan Ummm--no you did nothing wrong--just incomplete. I don' know how much help kudzu was in setting up configuration, but hen it mainly makes hardware drivers talk to the device and the system. What version, what distro, and what does dmesg say? Also cat /etc/conf.modules lspcidrake cat /etc/fstab cat /etc/mtab cat /proc/modules ls -l /dev/cdrom are all needed o make sure the config is correct. Let's do this once. The type of HOWTO you speak of may arise out of our exchange, and if so, you can be the author when it goes to linuxdoc.org Civileme
[expert] LPT CD Burner
Hello everybody, Is there any way to get HP Cd-burner to work via LPT port Regards, Janar Kokk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Dial on Demand
- Original Message - From: "Sean Middleditch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Dial on Demand Sheldon Lee Wen wrote: What about making it into a HOWTO for the LDP? After all, that's a Hell of a lot more useful to people than the Mandrake-User site. For starts, a Linux HOWTO is usable by everyone with a recent version of PPPD and CHAT, and the Mandrake-User site has got to be the single worst document site I have ever visited: the layout needs a make-over, there needs to be a message posting/discussion capability for every available document (one or two of them really need more explanation), and that green honestly offends my eyeballs (note: and my favorite color IS green, too). In any event, a HOWTO submitted to the LDP would be really nice. A lot of their documentation is still incomplete or out-of-date, especially the dial-up stuff. Sean Middleditch Ever read the HOWTO HOWTO? For the DocBook unaware, there's a big hurdle to overcome if you want to submit it. If there's a way to submit without DocBook, I'm listening since I will have a few things to contribute or update myself. Hoyt
Re: [expert] CD burner Howto..
Maybe www.linuxforum.org/plug/articles/scsiemu.html will help. Hoyt - Original Message - From: "Alan N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 2:10 PM Subject: [expert] CD burner Howto.. Can anyone point me to a good set of instructions for a HOW-TO to install a CD burner on a working system?? I found a number of how-to's that describe HOW TO BURN a cd using mkiofs and cdrecord, but I need some instructions on how to ADD a cd burner to a working system. The old CD-ROM has been replaced with the CD R/RW/ROM. I tried insmod ide-scsi but cd record can't find it. Obiously, I did something wrong.. Any advice is welcome. Alan
Re: [expert] Man page reader
I have Explore2fs. Installed and works great under NT4. You can see all the files BUT, when I go to the /local/man/man1 etc. it just shows you the man1,2,3,4, folders but no files or anything you can read. Am I in the wrong directory? From withing Linux, I can read the man pages. Under /usr/ there is nothing. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [expert] Man page reader -Original Message- From: Tony McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 4:37 AM Subject: [expert] Man page reader Given that I've copied my /usr/man directory to a windows partition, would anyone know of a tool for Windows 98 to read man pages in this format? If there's nothing to read the files with then I'll have to accept that, it's just for the convenience of not having to dual boot into Linux every time I'm offline and I need to glimpse at a man page. Thanks, Tony GO here http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm And be sure to read the FAQ and related stuff. You do not have to copy the directory to a FAT32 partition to be able to read it from WIN. I do think that it is singularly dangerous to write anything from win to linux, even with this tool, but reading should be (comparatively) safe. Civileme
