[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bluecabbagerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 1:14 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 11:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: on 12/3/05 3:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, they're quite private, even secretive. Maharishi isn't people. But WHY do they talk about it with YOU? They've talked about it with other people. They're just not running to the newspapers or setting up a web site. Patiently: but why are they talking about it at all? Put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself that question. Don't the have a right to? Are they under some moral obligation to remain silent all their lives? That question, Why are they talking about it at all? says a lot about a very prevalent trend/teaching in the TM movement that I don't think is positive. Don't focus on the negative. Don't talk about those unpleasant things. Ever hear those phrases? In the case of the TMO, it's like the professor in the Wizard of Oz saying Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain. There's something to hide. Still haven't answered my question... I thought Rick answered it perfectly in another post. Why NOT talk about it? It is a painful life experience a number of women have experienced. Why should they keep quiet about it? Why continue to protect the perpetrator by remaining silent? Being able to talk about a painful experience, especially after having kept it secret for many years, is a very common way to begin the healing process. Ever hear of the term, Get something off my chest? There are a few lines I often repeat to myself when I think of the dear friends I have unloaded on over the years: Joys when extended will always increase, And griefs when divided are hushed into peace. Talking about painful experiences is an incredibly great way to heal them. IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. It is a great way to heal. Especially for you it could do miracles. Just start exposing us your little secrets and maybe one day you could enjoy life without Prozac! Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bluecabbagerose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 1:14 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 11:42 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: on 12/3/05 3:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, they're quite private, even secretive. Maharishi isn't people. But WHY do they talk about it with YOU? They've talked about it with other people. They're just not running to the newspapers or setting up a web site. Patiently: but why are they talking about it at all? Put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself that question. Don't the have a right to? Are they under some moral obligation to remain silent all their lives? That question, Why are they talking about it at all? says a lot about a very prevalent trend/teaching in the TM movement that I don't think is positive. Don't focus on the negative. Don't talk about those unpleasant things. Ever hear those phrases? In the case of the TMO, it's like the professor in the Wizard of Oz saying Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain. There's something to hide. Still haven't answered my question... I thought Rick answered it perfectly in another post. Why NOT talk about it? It is a painful life experience a number of women have experienced. Why should they keep quiet about it? Why continue to protect the perpetrator by remaining silent? Being able to talk about a painful experience, especially after having kept it secret for many years, is a very common way to begin the healing process. Ever hear of the term, Get something off my chest? There are a few lines I often repeat to myself when I think of the dear friends I have unloaded on over the years: Joys when extended will always increase, And griefs when divided are hushed into peace. Talking about painful experiences is an incredibly great way to heal them. IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. It is a great way to heal. Especially for you it could do miracles. Just start exposing us your little secrets and maybe one day you could enjoy life without Prozac! Irmeli What, like I should talk about the drunken woman I date-raped when I was about 22? THere's durned little about my past I haven't faced at one time or another, as far as I can tell. You have other secrets also. Something that is happening at the present day and also something concerning your writing and you are hiding those things from us. Anyway you had a very good start. Congratulations. Just go on with your revelations! Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A project for several weaks?
Shankara's comment on BS 2.1.3 etena yogaH pratyuktaH..2.1.3.. By this [?by refuting saankhya, also] yoga is refuted. yogapratyuktyadhikaraNam..2.1.3.. etena sAMkhyasmRtipratyAkhyAnena, yogasmRtirapi pratyAkhyAtA draSTavyetyatidishati. tatrApi shrutivirodhena pradhAnaM svatantrameva kAraNam, mahadAdIni ca kAryANyalokavedaprasiddhAni kalpyante. nanvevaM sati samAnanyAyatvAtpUrveNaivaitadgatam; kimarthaM punaratidishyate? asti hyatrAbhyadhikAshankA -- - samyagdarshanAbhyupAyo hi yogo vede vihitaH-- 'shrotavyo mantavyo nididhyAsitavyaH' iti; 'trirunnataM sthApya samaM sharIram' ityAdinA cAsanAdikalpanApuraHsaraM bahuprapañcaM yogavidhAnaM shvetAshvataropaniSadi dRshyate; lingAni ca vaidikAni yogaviSayANi sahasrasha upalabhyante -- 'tAM yogamiti manyante sthirAmindriyadhAraNAm' iti, 'vidyAmetAM yogavidhiM ca kRtsnam' iti caivamAdIni; yogashAstre'pi -- 'atha taddarshanAbhyupAyo yogaH' iti samyagdarshanAbhyupAyatvenaiva yogo'ngIkriyate; ataH saMpratipannArthaikadeshatvAdaSTakAdismRtivadyogasmRtirapyanapavadanIy A bhaviSyatIti -- iyamapyadhikA shankAtideshena nivartyate, arthaikadeshasaMpratipattAvapyarthaikadeshavipratipatteH pUrvoktAyA darshanAt. satISvapyadhyAtmaviSayAsu bahvISu smRtiSu sAMkhyayogasmRtyoreva nirAkaraNe yatnaH kRtaH; sAMkhyayogau hi paramapuruSArthasAdhanatvena loke prakhyAtau, shiSTaishca parigRhItau, lingena ca shrautenopabRMhitau -- 'tatkAraNaM sAMkhyayogAbhipannaM jñAtvA devaM mucyate sarvapAshaiH' iti; nirAkaraNaM tu -- na sAMkhyasmRtijñAnena vedanirapekSeNa yogamArgeNa vA niHshreyasamadhigamyata iti; shrutirhi vaidikAdAtmaikatvavijñAnAdanyanniHshreyasasAdhanaM vArayati -- 'tameva viditvAti mRtyumeti nAnyaH panthA vidyate'yanAya' iti; dvaitino hi te sAMkhyA yogAshca nAtmaikatvadarshinaH. yattu darshanamuktam 'tatkAraNaM sAMkhyayogAbhipannam' iti, vaidikameva tatra jñAnaM dhyAnaM ca sAMkhyayogashabdAbhyAmabhilapyete pratyAsatterityavagantavyam. yena tvaMshena na virudhyete, teneSTameva sAMkhyayogasmRtyoH sAvakAshatvam; tadyathA -- 'asango hyayaM puruSaH' ityevamAdishrutiprasiddhameva puruSasya vishuddhatvaM nirguNapuruSanirUpaNena sAMkhyairabhyupagamyate; tathA ca yaugairapi 'atha parivrA·vivarNavAsA muN·o'parigrahaH' ityevamAdi shrutiprasiddhameva nivRttiniSThatvaM pravrajyAdyupadeshenAnugamyate. etena sarvANi tarkasmaraNAni prativaktavyAni; tAnyapi tarkopapattibhyAM tattvajñAnAyopakurvantIti cet, upakurvantu nAma; tattvajñAnaM tu vedAntavAkyebhya eva bhavati -- 'nAvedavinmanute taM bRhantam' 'taM tvaupaniSadaM puruSaM pRcchAmi' ityevamAdishrutibhyaH.. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna By Choice. It Works
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you need to lighten-up a bit. When you post comments in the past about niggers and kikes and then talk about great spiritual experiences it is a bit humorous, isn't it? I'm glad you're having great experiences with your yagyas. No one's defaiming your character, we're just noting its incredible irony because spiritual growth is usually equated with greater compassion and understanding which your previous posts did not demonstrate. -Peter Is this Tom guy what one you referred to as your nigah? You're not a psycholoist, are you? You didn't even sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night as you wouldn't be putting the mark of Cain on someone's forehead. A psychologist has hope, nay, an intention that their patients get better. The believe people can get better. No, you can't be a clinical physchologist. You're an experimental psychologist at FAU. You write for the worm runners digest. But definitely you're not a clinical psychologist. Tom, anyone ever mention you might have a tad of an anger problem? Does it ever strike you as odd that your anger doesn't abate even after an apology by the guilty party? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark night of the soul described
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ultrarishi writes:(Snipped) Codependents and Adult Children of Alcoholics, and the like, are very common on the elightenment circuit and embrace consciousness raising practices wholeheartedly. However, unlike more healthy people, meditation and the like, become short cuts to dealing with are own pain and issues. We know we want to evolve, but we don't know who we are. Because of the abuse we've experience in growing up we are in denial about the desires and emotions we think we want to transcend. Tom T: Those in the movement get really good at step 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to etc, The basic pproblem is that ultimately you have to do all 12 steps. You can not transcend away all that stuff we have inside. If you don't do it then it gets done. Step 1 I am not in control of you fill in the word blank. If you tilt that about 90 degrees you end up with I am not the doer. One can suddenly discover they are not the doer and they never had the I they thought they did. Very disconcerting to stumble on to that baby. Bottom line, own your stuff take it back into the wholeness you already are and discover joy and freedom. Tom T Some researchers were able to look into one of the big evangelical megachurches, I think in CA., with very fundamentalist views - really into the rapture and the apocalypse. They expected to find the members to be less educated and poorer, but found them to be fairly avg concerning most demographics. The one thing that stood out was close to 75% were raised in a home with at least 1 alcoholic parent or parental figure. My informal research comes up with a similar figure for hard core tmers - not your avg meditator but people who really got into the movt in a fundamentalist kind of way. Lots of possible reasons - the need to view MMY as perfect and trust him explicitly, using him as the ideal parental figure they didn't have as a child. Also the tendency to want to view life in black and white terms. The need for a closely knit family-like group that eventually leads to a culty-like group. Other reasons I'm sure. Unfortunately the inner tmo discouraged any kind of emotional healing for years and it's now clear that meditating alone doesn't heal these type of deep emotional wounds. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi plans four peace palaces for TM activities article
The story made it to AP. -emf http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05339/617369.stm Maharishi plans four peace palaces for TM activities Monday, December 05, 2005 By Steve Levin, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Pittsburgh is unique in many ways, but if the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi has anything to say about it, in a few years, the Steel City will be no different from Aberdeen, S.D., Kenosha, Wis., or 2,997 other cities around the world. That's because in the future, at four sites in and around Allegheny County, four marble-clad, two-story Maharishi Peace Palaces will be constructed at an estimated cost of $3 million each. The India-born Maharishi, who introduced Transcendental Meditation to the world in 1959, has set a goal of building Peace Palaces in the world's 3,000 largest cities. The palaces, built in harmony with natural law, or Sthapatya Veda, range in size from 5,000 square feet to 30,000 square feet, and will offer Maharishi-inspired spas, Vedic Vibration Technology, exhibition halls, classrooms, a wide range of products and, of course, TM, including Yogic Flying. Pittsburgh's Peace Palaces will be co-directed by Ralph Emmerich and Lisa Ashelman, both of whom have doctorates in world peace from Maharishi European Research University in Vlodrop, Holland. Both are certified teachers of Transcendental Meditation. Mr. Emmerich, a Churchill native, has been in Pittsburgh since January and hired a real estate agent six months ago to help identify potential sites for the Peace Palaces. He said yesterday that one site in Allegheny County has been purchased, but declined to say where. It has been tough to find suitable properties, he said. Most of the properties that come up are outside of Pittsburgh, said Mr. Emmerich, a 1978 graduate of Churchill High School, now Woodland Hills High School. He said Pittsburgh has numerous geographic challenges, such as rivers and steep slopes, to the tenets of Vedic architecture, which are derived from the Sanskrit texts of the Sthapatya Veda. It's believed health benefits and good fortune can be designed directly into a home's foundation, based upon, among other factors, the direction a building faces and the spatial relationship of rooms to each other. It gets very nitpicky when you get down to details, Mr. Emmerich said. There are fewer details so far when it comes to explaining how the Peace Palaces will be funded. Mr. Emmerich said the primary sources will be developers, private donations, bank loans and World Peace Bonds through the tax-exempt Global Country of World Peace. According to its Web site, the Global Country of World Peace was created to establish global world peace by unifying all nations in happiness, prosperity, invincibility and perfect health, while supporting the rich diversity of our world family. More than 6 million people worldwide practice TM. Practitioners and some scientific research report that the technique, in which an individual spends 20 minutes meditating twice a day, can result in greater creativity and increased energy. Mr. Emmerich first tried TM to alleviate his allergies by reducing stress. He said he noticed a difference within three weeks. He later ran a TM center in Squirrel Hill from 1986 to 1987. He and Ms. Ashelman are holding two introductory lectures at the Holiday Inn Express, 20 S. 10th St., South Side, at 7 p.m. on Dec. 15 and at noon and 7 p.m. on Dec. 16. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death
On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:44 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:56 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Last, the way to a pure land by releasing consciousness through the crown is not special to any kind of Buddhist techniques. It is the way any realized being leaves the body, whatever the affiliation, even 'lowly' TMers... ;) While anything is possible, unless you achieved the signs of transference in this life, it is unlikely you will do so at the moment of death. I don't know exactly what you mean by the signs... The normal flow of energy is upward and through the crown, anyway, so at the moment of death, why should it be any different?The signs of having opened the aperture of Brahman.Of course you also have to know and understand the signs of death when to apply the method/technique itself. Otherwise you are essentially committing suicide.There may be further considerations. If your country is being invaded by beings who want to destroy your gnosis, your practice and the fact that being drug off to the torture chamber may be looming; should you leave and reincarnate consciously in another country where the dharma can be found and there is no war? Many Tibetan monks did just that. There's always trepanning. :-0 ouch...I'll just stick to combing my hair, thanks... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:44 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:56 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Last, the way to a pure land by releasing consciousness through the crown is not special to any kind of Buddhist techniques. It is the way any realized being leaves the body, whatever the affiliation, even 'lowly' TMers... ;) While anything is possible, unless you achieved the signs of transference in this life, it is unlikely you will do so at the moment of death. I don't know exactly what you mean by the signs... The normal flow of energy is upward and through the crown, anyway, so at the moment of death, why should it be any different? The signs of having opened the aperture of Brahman. That was my assumption. Of course you also have to know and understand the signs of death when to apply the method/technique itself. Otherwise you are essentially committing suicide. There may be further considerations. If your country is being invaded by beings who want to destroy your gnosis, your practice and the fact that being drug off to the torture chamber may be looming; should you leave and reincarnate consciously in another country where the dharma can be found and there is no war? Many Tibetan monks did just that. Very interesting. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yer just a plain nut. Its quite obvious that you have some kind of anger and pain that can only be appeased by mocking other people's pain and guilt under the guise of requesting inner revelations. I think my husband would agree with you! Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
Burlingtons great, and Waterbury is an up and coming place. And everywhere else in the world is downhill from Vermont.:-) Off --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in the Boston area now, but I was born in Burlington, at the UVM hospital. My mother grew up in Waterbury and I lived the first two weeks of my life there and spent lots of vacation time there growing up. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not where I come from. Vermont? If so, we come from the same place. Nah, I just live here. Where in Vermont are you from? --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all I think what you mean't to say is: It was me who posted it - gullible fool Nope, it wasn't me. By the way, you misspelled meant. Not where I come from. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with this guy's spelling? Write the exact same thing he just said in German and we'll ask him to critique your spelling. First of all I think what you mean't to say is: It was me who posted it - gullible fool Secondly in response to your request: Du sind richt verinkommen!!! Specialdzig bin Ich bergonnen Herr Pfetr das tag anderer die interdructukennforchen ins das bierhaus zum Irlande, und bin das spiel der folkensaggen versunden vos kalpenfunken. OffWorld Especily because I med Dr. Peter the day after his Initiation in that pub in Ireland and at that time the storry sounded mutch wors. I´ll gone send you a coppy. The world needs to know !!! --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 2:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't askyou to doubt a friend, but I DO ask you to wonder why they bother talking about it to you? Is it the thrill of revealing they slept with a celebrity? Or is it bitterness and remorse? Or what? Do your female friends normally talk about people they slept with decades ago? Actually, they're quite private, even secretive. Maharishi isn't people. When Rick initiated me in 1972, as I came out of my first meditation, I think he made a pass at me. There was a flash of arms and a beard...no, it must have been an LSD flashback. Never mind. No, I believe you Dr. Pete. I am starting a website to promote this cause. The world needs to know about Rick and his 'spiritual incest'. OffWorld You are absolutly right !!! Especily because I med Dr. Peter the day after his Initiation in that pub in Ireland and at that time the storry sounded mutch wors. I´ll gone send you a coppy. The world needs to know !!! Mr. Satva What's wrong with this guy's spelling? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --- -~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. ...and mice. OffWorld. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark night of the soul described
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom T: Those in the movement get really good at step 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to etc, The basic pproblem is that ultimately you have to do all 12 steps. You can not transcend away all that stuff we have inside. If you don't do it then it gets done. Step 1 I am not in control of you fill in the word blank. If you tilt that about 90 degrees you end up with I am not the doer. One can suddenly discover they are not the doer and they never had the I they thought they did. Very disconcerting to stumble on to that baby. Bottom line, own your stuff take it back into the wholeness you already are and discover joy and freedom. Tom T True enough. Powerlessness over (fill in the blank) is one helluva foundation to start from. But, I always liked the clarification that the Serenity (Senility?) Prayer gave: God, Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. In the yoga of the 12 steps the Serenity Prayer is really a prayer about developing the mind's/spirit's discriminating abilities. One maybe powerless over the behavior of another (an alcoholic parent, spouse, etc.), but one CAN choose to not spend time, etc. with the person, breaking the cycle of endless suffering because the codependent is playing God thinking they can affect the other's behavior. Also, the alcoholic or drug addict etc. may not be able to give up their addiction forever, but they can give it up for 1 hour or 1 day at a time. I think TB's are expecting too much from just Transcending and not putting enough energy into the activity phase. 12 steps kind of balances out my meditation practice by getting me off my ass to work at doing service, cleaning up my messes, finding ways to know myself better so that I know others better. It's part of my sadhana as much as TM and aerobics are. And I hate 12 step and fitness TB'ers as much as I hate TM TB'ers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dark night of the soul described
On Dec 6, 2005, at 11:16 AM, ultrarishi wrote:True enough. Powerlessness over (fill in the blank) is one helluva foundation to start from. But, I always liked the clarification that the Serenity (Senility?) Prayer gave: God, Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. In the "yoga" of the 12 steps the Serenity Prayer is really a prayer about developing the mind's/spirit's discriminating abilities. One maybe powerless over the behavior of another (an alcoholic parent, spouse, etc.), but one CAN choose to not spend time, etc. with the person, breaking the cycle of endless suffering because the codependent is playing God thinking they can affect the other's behavior. Also, the alcoholic or drug addict etc. may not be able to give up their addiction forever, but they can give it up for 1 hour or 1 day at a time. I think TB's are expecting too much from just Transcending and not putting enough energy into the activity phase. 12 steps kind of balances out my meditation practice by getting me off my ass to work at doing service, cleaning up my messes, finding ways to know myself better so that I know others better. It's part of my sadhana as much as TM and aerobics are. And I hate 12 step and fitness TB'ers as much as I hate TM TB'ers. It would be interesting to see what kind of results you would get from recovering 12-step people undergoing intense purification practice like is undergone by tantric yogis. For fellow practitioners I've known for years who did this practice, they seem like different people, the difference is that palpable. They seem kinder, gentler, like the rough edges are gone. And they just put out a different vibe than they did before.At the same time it would be helpful, IMO, to engage in a spiritual practice which conveyed through direct experience that the personality is not a real thing. It's just an illusion. Once the grasping to that false image stops, the person inevitably and just naturally softens and changes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Swami giving money from Aarthi plate to devotees
Life History of H.H. Sri Swamiji 157 Jaya Guru Datta Chapter 13 Aashadabhootulu (The Cheats) Dommi (Riots) This is the third one. The results obtained without any personal efforts do not give the real satisfaction. Leaving it aside, even after completing the purpose for which they were sent, the Danda and Kamandalam still remain with me. It means that I have still some more use left from them, thought Swamy after completion of Tarpanam(1) to the Danda that day and keeping it aside. The arrival of Dandaswamy had added Danda Pooja and Danda Tarpanam to the daily ritual of Sandhya. Nearly 2000-3000 devotees were attending to homa on Sundays. Starting from the early morning every Sunday turned out to be a busy day for Swamy. Concerts, Harikathas were added to the programme on Sundays. Musical concerts would go on for hours on that day. The devotees would stand in queue at the end of homa and holding on to the Danda, Swamy almost ran from the beginning to the end of the queue so that he could meet all the devotees and enquire about their welfare. He would not let go of the Danda all along. The word of Swamy does come true, the message went all over Mysore and in turn brought more devotees. Some of them came with their problems to unburden on Swamy and get some relief. Some others came without any problems, but still wanting to get his blessings. Really speaking is there anyone without problems? No problems mean that there are no desires. It is impossible to find one who has no desires. Financial problems are probably the biggest of the problems for many. Nearly 50% of those with financial worries suffer because of laziness or due to bad habits. Such people do not accept the truth anytime and do not consider that it is all due to their own fault. Of the remaining 50%, half will be due to greed or wrong planning of their finances. The rest of them suffer because they are punished by the God by the society. Swamy felt sorry for the last 2 groups and started to assist those financially. He started giving away the money collected in the aarathi plate that day. Before giving the money he made it a point to advice each of those receiving the benefit. He said, My child, what you have received today is Sin money. People's sins are left in the aarathi plate in the form of money. You cannot bear its weight and you cannot digest it. You do not have the strength for it. I have given it to you so that you can tidy over your present problems. Your income is going to increase from now onwards. Consider what you have received as a loan from me. Put away Rs.1/-, 50 paise, 25 paise or whatever you can, each day as a saving to repay the loan you have. If you do not do so, the initial debt you made will keep on increasing rapidly by accumulating the interest. I cannot help you then. Swamy was not concerned about repeating the message to every individual who received the money. It is considered to be a mistake to repeat the statement several times, but as far as Swamy was concerned it did not matter. The moneys received helped so many families in different ways. It assisted in their daughter's wedding, in getting medicines to cure illness, to pay the school fees and even prevented the money lenders from taking possession of the property or the contents of the houses. Most of these people did not bother to come back to the ashrama and those who did come back did not even put a penny in the hundi or the plate. Swamy never asked even for a penny from any of them. Week after week, the devotees in need of financial assistance started coming with tales of their own and would end up with tears and sometimes cry openly. They used to beg, Swamy, can you please let me have the collection today. Swamy who had the power of the divine vision had to think hard pulling t his tiny beard he had started to grow. If not for the special powers he exhibited and his temper, some devotees would not have hesitated to forcibly take away the collection they would not even sorry if Swamy were hurt, as long as they would receive the money that day. Swamy's short temper prevented the people from going to that extent. Swamy was perturbed at the turn of events. One Saturday, overnight, some person split the tarpaulin erected for the homa using a sharp knife. The volunteers who erected it were mad and wanted to go and find the culprit. Swamy calmed them down and said, Do not get angry, the culprit will suffer before the end of the day. It was not clear why such harsh words came from Swamy. He was never known to use such harsh words on any. That evening, a well-respected resident of the colony had to be taken to the hospital as an emergency. He started crying out loudly in the hospital saying, I did insult Ganapathi and he has punished me for my crime. On enquiring why he was saying so, he came up with the truth http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sacredlifeofswamiji/ This Yahoo group contains the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna By Choice. It Works
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, you need to lighten-up a bit. When you post comments in the past about niggers and kikes and then talk about great spiritual experiences it is a bit humorous, isn't it? I'm glad you're having great experiences with your yagyas. No one's defaiming your character, we're just noting its incredible irony because spiritual growth is usually equated with greater compassion and understanding which your previous posts did not demonstrate. -Peter Is this Tom guy what one you referred to as your nigah? You're not a psycholoist, are you? You didn't even sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night as you wouldn't be putting the mark of Cain on someone's forehead. A psychologist has hope, nay, an intention that their patients get better. The believe people can get better. No, you can't be a clinical physchologist. You're an experimental psychologist at FAU. You write for the worm runners digest. But definitely you're not a clinical psychologist. Tom, anyone ever mention you might have a tad of an anger problem? Does it ever strike you as odd that your anger doesn't abate even after an apology by the guilty party There is a number of legends about the Rishi Durvas like this. became angry and cursed her to live apart from Lord Krishna. That is why Krishna's temple is in t..: http://www.indhistory.com/hindu-temple/hindu-temple-dwarka-temple.htmlHe Prince Samb was suffering with leprosy due to a curse by Rishi Durvasa. Th..: http://www.yadav.com/yadavhist.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] How to Transcend name and form
Jaya Guru Datta Naamnashcha roopaagatidooragopi Naamaani roopaani dharan bahooni Yo naama roopaatigataan karoti Sveeyaan tameede gurudatta devam. (Sri Datta Dhyaana Maalikaa) He is far beyond name and form. Still, he assumes different names and forms and through those names and forms, he makes the devotees to transcend name and form. To that Guru Datta, I offer my prostrations. Sri Guru Datta In Datta Seva Hanuman Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Liberation as per Gita
Lessons from Bhagavad Gita - 59 (from the discourses of Pujya Sri Swamiji) When the mind restrained by the practice of Yoga withdraws (from the objects) and when seeing the self, one rejoices in his own self; When he experiences that infinite joy, beyond the reach of the senses, perceived by the intellect (purified), and having become steadfast, he never departs from the reality; When after obtaining which, he regards no other gain greater than that, and when therein established, he is not shaken even by heavy sorrow; (20,21 22 - VI) The above three verses five us an idea of the experience a Yogi has when his mind like a lamp in a windless place becomes concentrated on the self. At this stage the Yogi gets supreme happiness, which an ordinary man can never hope to experience. An ordinary man enjoys pleasures through his mind and the sense organs. For instance, the pleasure of eating a delicious food is enjoyed though the sense organ called tongue. In the same way the beauty of any form is enjoyed through the sense called eye. But the experience of happiness that is felt when oneÕs mind is fully concentrated on the Self does not come through the sense organs or the mind even. Mind and the sense organs always get attracted by the external objects. They can enjoy only the external objects. They are incapable of experiencing the happiness of the self. Therefore the happiness of the Self is called ÔAteendriyaÕ, which means that it is beyond the reach of the senses. Then how can we experience this happiness of the self? Sri Krishna says that this can be grasped through the intellect (Buddhigamyam). Intellect always remains with the self as it does not go outwards in search of sensual pleasures. When all the sense organs turn away from their respective objects, the mind becomes steady. As a result the intellect begins to work and delights in the Self. Or, in other words, when the mind becomes steady and gets concentrated in meditation the intellect starts functioning. It cognises the self and the self is realised. The happiness derived from the sense organs is short lived. It also ends in misery. But the happiness of the self is everlasting and infinite (atyantikam). Being established in this blissful state, the Yogi does not slip from that reality. By the practice of Yoga, one has to withdraw oneÕs mind from all external movements and focus it on the Self. The mind then merges in the Self and delights in it. The idea is, when senses get restrained through the practice of Yoga discipline, the mind easily turns inwards and cognises the self. It then becomes one with the supreme spirit of the self and enjoys permanent bliss. In this state, the Yogi enjoys the absolute peace and eternal happiness. There is nothing greater than this state. Even the possession of the entire world and its wealth is nothing compared to this state. When a man attains this status, he will not be shaken by any sorrow or suffering. Even if his body is going to be struck with weapons, he will not feel sorry as he enjoys peace and bliss of the self. Let that be known as the states called by the term Yoga - a state of severance from the contact of pain. This Yoga must be practised with determination and with an undejected mind. (23-VI) The man who has attained the bliss of the Self forgets the pain and pleasures of the body. He will not be shaken even if mountains of misery are to crash down upon him. He is always full of peace and cheer. The ideal of Yoga is to attain to this supreme state of Blessedness. Thus the need or purpose to pursue the Yoga is again spoken of in this verse. This Yoga is to be practised with firm determination and with an undejected mind. Or, in other words, perseverance and non-dejection are the two disciplines of Yoga. There might appear lot of difficulties and obstacles in the spiritual path. But one should not give up hope. With patience and perseverance one should practise the Yogic disciplines. This is the idea. Giving up all desires which arise from thoughts (Samkalpa), restraining all the senses from all quarters by the mind; (24-VI) Little by little (gradually or by degrees) let him withdraw, with the intellect set in firmness and with the mind fastened on the self; let him not think of anything else. (25-VI). These verses clearly set forth the means of securing mastery of Yoga. Firstly, the aspirant of Yoga should five up all desires arising out of thoughts of cherished aims. A man may entertain in his mind different types of desires of enjoying worldly pleasures. These desires make his mind fickle. Therefore in order to make the mind steady these desires are to be totally given up. Even if the aspirant has a negligible or least desire to enjoy a particular object he should totally erase it from his mind. Otherwise this least desire lurking in his mind may gain strength in course of time and give
[FairfieldLife] How Sage Durvasa's Anger was Abated.. was Re: Yagna By Choice. It Works
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Does it ever strike you as odd that your anger doesn't abate even after an apology by the guilty party There is a number of legends about the Rishi Durvas like this. Power of True Devotion (from the discourses of Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji) A man generally becomes egoistic due to education, wealth and indiscriminate spiritual knowledge. But he forgets that his wealth and erudition are god given. He thinks that these are obtained by self-effort alone and nobody has anything to do with it. Such a manÕs fate is like the Sun, who rises in all his glory at dawn and reaches the zenith at noon and as evening falls, disappears. Similarly, egoistic education, wealth and indiscriminate knowledge are like the glory of sunrise. As time passes, they are bound to disappear. You should give up ego and pride when you praise the greatness of GodÕs superiority. It is the duty of the wealthy to use their wealth to help those who are in real need. They should serve as a protective force to the society, especially for the poor and the needy. There lived a poor fellow opposite to a rich manÕs house. The poor fellow used to give alms to the beggars and thus everyone liked him and despised the rich man because no one had seen him giving alms to beggars. One day the poor man stopped giving alms and all of a sudden, the beggars started scoffing at him. Later people came to know that the alms actually came form the rich man who wanted his charitable nature to remain unnoticed. He was doing it anonymously, not caring for name or fame. A man of charitable nature is always charitable. His quality is inborn. There is no need to teach him it is not easy to change the basic nature of man. A person, who is basically wicked, remains so. It is very difficult to transform him. A neem fruit can not be made sweet by pouring honey at the root of the tree. True devotion to the Almighty alone is the means to self- evolution. This itself is Sadhana. Such devotion prevents you from unrighteous behaviour and mitigates suffering. Even if a devotee develops pride, the Almighty will correct him at an appropriate time by directing him to a Sadguru. The story of Ambarisha glorifies the power of devotion to the Almighty. Ambarisha was a true devotee of Lord Vishnu and was able to see the Lord in his heart every moment. The Lord says in the Bhagavad-Gita, there is nothing whatsoever which is higher than me. I am the taste in water. I am light in the moon and the sun. I am the syllable OM in the Vedas. I am the sound in Ether and humanity in human beings. I am the pure fragrance in the earth and brightness in the fire. I am the life of all existences. I am the intelligence of the intelligent. I am the splendour of the splendid and I support the entire world with a single fraction of my splendour. Therefore, the entire world is only a fraction of His and not the whole. Ambarisha knew this very well. He held the sacred scripture in high esteem and followed their instructions implicitly. He performed great Yagas and acquired great merit by virtue of which, he could travel to different Lokas. Once, he met Sumedha, an uncharitable and unqualified person in Swarga (heaven). Ambarisha asked Indra, the lord of heaven as to how Sumedha could be admitted in to heaven when he had not undertaken great meritorious acts such as Tapas, Yajna, Satsang, Charities etc. Indra explained that Sumedha had performed such acts, which protected the country and the people and whatever he did, was with total purity of mind. He had discharged all his social obligations in an unselfish manner. Ambarisha was impressed by IndraÕs answer. Being a very religious person, Ambarisha performed intense Tapas and sought a very strange boon from Lord Vishnu. He begged Lord Vishnu to bless him with a progeny who would be fortunate enough to marry Lord Vishnu Himself! ÔSo be itÕ said Lord Vishnu. One day, when Ambarisha was performing Ekadashi Vrata (a ritual performed on the eleventh day of each fortnight when the person has to fast and chant the names of Lord Vishnu), Lord Vishnu thought of testing his devotion. He wanted to disturb his Vrata. When the Vrata was nearing completion, Sage Durvasa (famous for short temper) came to his palace to accept the hospitality of the king. Durvasa said that he would first have a dip in the river before accepting the hospitality. Ambarisha waited and waited but Durvasa did not return for a long time. As the sacred moment was slipping away, he drank Tulsi water after offering it to Lord Vishnu. Soon after that, Durvasa arrived, cursing Ambarisha for insulting him by drinking water before feeding the guest. He tried to create more obstacles to Ambarisha. But AmbarishaÕs devotion and dedication were so pure and strong that he was not at all disturbed by
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[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. So is there a trail of gossip establishing that these events were talked about for sometime before they were made public? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark night of the soul described
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ultrarishi writes:(Snipped) Codependents and Adult Children of Alcoholics, and the like, are very common on the elightenment circuit and embrace consciousness raising practices wholeheartedly. However, unlike more healthy people, meditation and the like, become short cuts to dealing with are own pain and issues. We know we want to evolve, but we don't know who we are. Because of the abuse we've experience in growing up we are in denial about the desires and emotions we think we want to transcend. Tom T: Those in the movement get really good at step 11. Sought through prayer and meditation to etc, The basic pproblem is that ultimately you have to do all 12 steps. You can not transcend away all that stuff we have inside. If you don't do it then it gets done. Step 1 I am not in control of you fill in the word blank. If you tilt that about 90 degrees you end up with I am not the doer. One can suddenly discover they are not the doer and they never had the I they thought they did. Very disconcerting to stumble on to that baby. Bottom line, own your stuff take it back into the wholeness you already are and discover joy and freedom. Tom T Some researchers were able to look into one of the big evangelical megachurches, I think in CA., with very fundamentalist views - really into the rapture and the apocalypse. They expected to find the members to be less educated and poorer, but found them to be fairly avg concerning most demographics. The one thing that stood out was close to 75% were raised in a home with at least 1 alcoholic parent or parental figure. My informal research comes up with a similar figure for hard core tmers - not your avg meditator but people who really got into the movt in a fundamentalist kind of way. Lots of possible reasons - the need to view MMY as perfect and trust him explicitly, using him as the ideal parental figure they didn't have as a child. Also the tendency to want to view life in black and white terms. The need for a closely knit family-like group that eventually leads to a culty-like group. Other reasons I'm sure. Unfortunately the inner tmo discouraged any kind of emotional healing for years and it's now clear that meditating alone doesn't heal these type of deep emotional wounds. Sure it does, but it may take longer than one would like. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] TM-Sidhis and Judaism
I am looking for anyone interested in comparative studies of TM-Sidhis with similar practical techniques in Judaism such as R. Yitzahk Sagi Nahor (R. Isaac the Blind, the 12th century father of Jewish Mysticism) on reaching the source of thought, the Admor of Piacezna's technique of quieting down the mind, Maimonides' Guide to the Perplexed 3,51 on Devekut Consciousness achieved through Meditative practice and many more... Rabbi Dr. Natan Ophir Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. ...and mice. I can't speak to the veracity of any claim. The way things have been presented, MMY had some women come to his room and spend a great deal of time alone with them. Later they emerged disheveled and some days/months/years later, they told the guys who escorted them to the room that they had had sex with MMY. That is NOT how info about such incidents usually get passed around in the non-TMO world. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yer just a plain nut. Its quite obvious that you have some kind of anger and pain that can only be appeased by mocking other people's pain and guilt under the guise of requesting inner revelations. I think my husband would agree with you! Irmeli Let's play pretend: Let's pretend that I have had anger and hurt and emotional pain to the point that I would scream hard enough that I would rip the muscles of my adominal wall, making my para-umbilical hernia worse. Let's pretend that you, as the internet counselor of great fame and competence could evoke or re-evoke such feelings, bringing about a further crying and screaming session with me lying on the ground, curled in a ball sobbing while waves of pain were followed by waves of euphoria as my body produced endorphins to try to compensate for said torn muscles. Are you equiped, over the internet or in person, to deal with such a reaction? Are you prepared to take the consequences of furthering my physical problems? Let's pretend that as a result of said screaming that my hernia is now large enough that I can't exercise without either a brace of some kind or doing a Napaleon of literally holding my guts in. And that if I don't, I have to make disgusting squishing sounds as I poke my intestines back inside my abdomen. Are you emotionally, intellectually, and financially prepared to handle the consequences of your manipulation of my emotions in such a way, even though it must be obvious to all that it is really for the best for me to let go, even over the internet? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis and Judaism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dr. Natan Ophir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for anyone interested in comparative studies of TM- Sidhis with similar practical techniques in Judaism such as R. Yitzahk Sagi Nahor (R. Isaac the Blind, the 12th century father of Jewish Mysticism) on reaching the source of thought, the Admor of Piacezna's technique of quieting down the mind, Maimonides' Guide to the Perplexed 3,51 on Devekut Consciousness achieved through Meditative practice and many more... Rabbi Dr. Natan Ophir The TM-Sidhis aren't for quieting down the mind. TM itself may have that effect, but at least in a given practice period, that isn't the goal of the practice. If you wish to do a comparative study on TM vs some other form of meditation, you should contact the MUM researchers for advice on how to proceed. A good idea of what studies have already been done can be found by checking with the National Institute of Health's pubmed database of research articles and doing a keyword search on transcendental meditation. Likewise, you can do such searches for research on any other form of meditation. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed Another good source of information on research is the online book found at: http://www.noetic.org/research/medbiblio/ This summarizes the results of over 2500 studies on all forms of meditation. Some studies date back more than 50 years. Finally, there is a book that compares the religious and spiritual traditions of samadhi and other spiritual terms, including those found in Judaism, called: The Problem of Pure Consciousness, edited by Robert C. Forman. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0195109767/qid=1133902062/sr=8- 1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-4847701-5062364?n=507846s=booksv=glance tinyurl.com doesn't seem to be working right now. Sorry for the long url. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A project for several weaks?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shankara's comment on BS 2.1.3 satISvapyadhyAtmaviSayAsu bahvISu smRtiSu sAMkhyayogasmRtyoreva nirAkaraNe yatnaH kRtaH; More guessing, just for fun: In the existing (satiiSu [api]) several (bahviiSu) smritis (smRtiSu) that deal with (?viSayaasu) adhi-aatmaa (adhyaatma) there has been attempts (yatnaH kRtaH) at belittling (niraakaraNe) of saankhya-and- yoga-smritis (sAMkhyayogasmRtyor [eva]). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A project for several weaks?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shankara's comment on BS 2.1.3 satISvapyadhyAtmaviSayAsu bahvISu smRtiSu sAMkhyayogasmRtyoreva nirAkaraNe yatnaH kRtaH; More guessing, just for fun: In the existing (satiiSu [api]) several (bahviiSu) smritis (smRtiSu) that deal with (?viSayaasu) adhi-aatmaa (adhyaatma) there has been attempts (yatnaH kRtaH) at belittling (niraakaraNe) of saankhya- and-yoga-smritis (sAMkhyayogasmRtyor [eva]). BTW, that's a rather nice example of how impractical using inflection instead of, say, prepositions, to indicate syntactic relationships between various parts of a sentence can be. In English you just use the preposition in once, and then you can, in principle put any number of attributes, or whatever, between it and the headword, I believe. In Sanskrit above, you have to add the inflectional ending of locative plural -su (or -Su, depending on *internal* sandhi) to all the components of the noun phrase: satiiSu - viSayaasu bahviiSu smRtiSu. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I would like to be able to post messages. Thank you.
Hows the weather in Israel? OffWorldBeings Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. So is there a trail of gossip establishing that these events were talked about for sometime before they were made public? What difference does it make?? Boy, you sure like to gossip about the same point over and over and over and over again. You are one of the most gossipy guys on FFL! Seriously! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. ...and mice. I can't speak to the veracity of any claim. The way things have been presented, MMY had some women come to his room and spend a great deal of time alone with them. Later they emerged disheveled and some days/months/years later, they told the guys who escorted them to the room that they had had sex with MMY. That is NOT how info about such incidents usually get passed around in the non-TMO world. Okay then. How DO such incidents get passed around in the non-TMO world?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yer just a plain nut. Its quite obvious that you have some kind of anger and pain that can only be appeased by mocking other people's pain and guilt under the guise of requesting inner revelations. I think my husband would agree with you! Irmeli Let's play pretend: Let's pretend that I have had anger and hurt and emotional pain to the point that I would scream hard enough that I would rip the muscles of my adominal wall, making my para-umbilical hernia worse. Let's pretend that you, as the internet counselor of great fame and competence could evoke or re-evoke such feelings, bringing about a further crying and screaming session with me lying on the ground, curled in a ball sobbing while waves of pain were followed by waves of euphoria as my body produced endorphins to try to compensate for said torn muscles. Are you equiped, over the internet or in person, to deal with such a reaction? Are you prepared to take the consequences of furthering my physical problems? Let's pretend that as a result of said screaming that my hernia is now large enough that I can't exercise without either a brace of some kind or doing a Napaleon of literally holding my guts in. And that if I don't, I have to make disgusting squishing sounds as I poke my intestines back inside my abdomen. Are you emotionally, intellectually, and financially prepared to handle the consequences of your manipulation of my emotions in such a way, even though it must be obvious to all that it is really for the best for me to let go, even over the internet? You are an insufferable drama queen, gossip and whiner. Get a grip, buddy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, like I should talk about the drunken woman I date-raped when I was about 22? THere's durned little about my past I haven't faced at one time or another, as far as I can tell. And now you're gossiping about yourself! Will wonders never cease? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. So is there a trail of gossip establishing that these events were talked about for sometime before they were made public? What difference does it make?? Boy, you sure like to gossip about the same point over and over and over and over again. You are one of the most gossipy guys on FFL! Seriously! :-) Seriously, the point of MMY's sexuality is of great importance to some, and of moderate interest to others. In trying to evaluate the probable truth of the rumors, it is necessary to examine how the evidence unfolded over the years. So far, the way in which the rumors became known doesn't sound plausible. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 2:40 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/5/05 4:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IS it an incredibly great way to heal? Actually, I don't know the timelines for when the events took place (allegedly) or when they allegedly told people about them, but Rick said something about months later in at least some of the cases. Depending on who we're talking about, and to whom they were talking, it ranges from the morning after to decades later. Did the women in question talk to other women about these events? Yes. And to men. ...and mice. I can't speak to the veracity of any claim. The way things have been presented, MMY had some women come to his room and spend a great deal of time alone with them. Later they emerged disheveled and some days/months/years later, they told the guys who escorted them to the room that they had had sex with MMY. That is NOT how info about such incidents usually get passed around in the non-TMO world. Okay then. How DO such incidents get passed around in the non-TMO world?? Women talk to other women or to gay guys, NOT to the guy that procured them for the boss Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yer just a plain nut. Its quite obvious that you have some kind of anger and pain that can only be appeased by mocking other people's pain and guilt under the guise of requesting inner revelations. I think my husband would agree with you! Irmeli Let's play pretend: Let's pretend that I have had anger and hurt and emotional pain to the point that I would scream hard enough that I would rip the muscles of my adominal wall, making my para-umbilical hernia worse. Let's pretend that you, as the internet counselor of great fame and competence could evoke or re-evoke such feelings, bringing about a further crying and screaming session with me lying on the ground, curled in a ball sobbing while waves of pain were followed by waves of euphoria as my body produced endorphins to try to compensate for said torn muscles. Are you equiped, over the internet or in person, to deal with such a reaction? Are you prepared to take the consequences of furthering my physical problems? Let's pretend that as a result of said screaming that my hernia is now large enough that I can't exercise without either a brace of some kind or doing a Napaleon of literally holding my guts in. And that if I don't, I have to make disgusting squishing sounds as I poke my intestines back inside my abdomen. Are you emotionally, intellectually, and financially prepared to handle the consequences of your manipulation of my emotions in such a way, even though it must be obvious to all that it is really for the best for me to let go, even over the internet? You are an insufferable drama queen, gossip and whiner. Get a grip, buddy. Heh. Have a paraumbilical hernia made worse by screaming? I mean, for all I know you're a quadrapalegic who communicates on the internet using his tongue, but if you don't have problems of such a severe nature, calling someone else a drama queen is kinda, well, less than empathetic. ANd besides, given that this thread is the result of Irmeli requesting that I come clean about my emotional history, your response is, well, out of place. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, like I should talk about the drunken woman I date-raped when I was about 22? THere's durned little about my past I haven't faced at one time or another, as far as I can tell. And now you're gossiping about yourself! Will wonders never cease? Not the usual definition of gossip. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
My sister lives just north of Montpelier in Mooretown, VT. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Burlingtons great, and Waterbury is an up and coming place. And everywhere else in the world is downhill from Vermont.:-) Off --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in the Boston area now, but I was born in Burlington, at the UVM hospital. My mother grew up in Waterbury and I lived the first two weeks of my life there and spent lots of vacation time there growing up. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not where I come from. Vermont? If so, we come from the same place. Nah, I just live here. Where in Vermont are you from? --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all I think what you mean't to say is: It was me who posted it - gullible fool Nope, it wasn't me. By the way, you misspelled meant. Not where I come from. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with this guy's spelling? Write the exact same thing he just said in German and we'll ask him to critique your spelling. First of all I think what you mean't to say is: It was me who posted it - gullible fool Secondly in response to your request: Du sind richt verinkommen!!! Specialdzig bin Ich bergonnen Herr Pfetr das tag anderer die interdructukennforchen ins das bierhaus zum Irlande, und bin das spiel der folkensaggen versunden vos kalpenfunken. OffWorld Especily because I med Dr. Peter the day after his Initiation in that pub in Ireland and at that time the storry sounded mutch wors. I´ll gone send you a coppy. The world needs to know !!! --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/3/05 2:25 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't askyou to doubt a friend, but I DO ask you to wonder why they bother talking about it to you? Is it the thrill of revealing they slept with a celebrity? Or is it bitterness and remorse? Or what? Do your female friends normally talk about people they slept with decades ago? Actually, they're quite private, even secretive. Maharishi isn't people. When Rick initiated me in 1972, as I came out of my first meditation, I think he made a pass === message truncated === __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
- Nice memories of Vermont! I went to high school in Saxton's River, then lived in a college TM-dorm in Plainfield (Goddard College).Became a teacher of you-know-what through Goddard under-graduate programs, eventually transferring to MIU, in Goleta...except that last minute I get a letter from MIU sayig, It's a joy to announce a change in school location., and so I headed to MIU in the Fall of '75... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My sister lives just north of Montpelier in Mooretown, VT. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Burlingtons great, and Waterbury is an up and coming place. And everywhere else in the world is downhill from Vermont.:-) Off --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in the Boston area now, but I was born in Burlington, at the UVM hospital. My mother grew up in Waterbury and I lived the first two weeks of my life there and spent lots of vacation time there growing up. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not where I come from. Vermont? If so, we come from the same place. Nah, I just live here. Where in Vermont are you from? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
on 12/6/05 8:07 PM, ysoy10li at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Nice memories of Vermont! I went to high school in Saxton's River, then lived in a college TM-dorm in Plainfield (Goddard College).Became a teacher of you-know-what through Goddard under-graduate programs, eventually transferring to MIU, in Goleta...except that last minute I get a letter from MIU sayig, It's a joy to announce a change in school location., and so I headed to MIU in the Fall of '75... I used to go skiing in Vermont - grew up in CT. Applied to Goddard and visited that TM dorm. Bill Brunelle was there wasn't he? Somehow, Goddard lost my application, so I ended up teaching TM full time and getting BSCI, MSCI, etc. My band, Goodhill, once played at Goddard. Great crowd. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
on 12/6/05 2:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is there a trail of gossip establishing that these events were talked about for sometime before they were made public? They were never officially public. Various women talked about them to various degrees, from quite a bit to not at all. Probably none of them felt like being a lightening rod for the hostility this attracted, so they kept a relatively low profile. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
on 12/6/05 5:09 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Women talk to other women or to gay guys, NOT to the guy that procured them for the boss Is that a hard and fast rule? What if that guy happens to be their friend? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- AIDS in India: A lurking bomb. Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
--- - Nice memories of Vermont! I went to high school in Saxton's River, then lived in a college TM-dorm in Plainfield (Goddard College).Became a teacher of you-know-what through Goddard under-graduate programs, eventually transferring to MIU, in Goleta...except that last minute I get a letter from MIU sayig, It's a joy to announce a change in school location., and so I headed to MIU in the Fall of '75... I used to go skiing in Vermont - grew up in CT. Applied to Goddard and visited that TM dorm. Bill Brunelle was there wasn't he? Somehow, Goddard lost my application, so I ended up teaching TM full time and getting BSCI, MSCI, etc. My band, Goodhill, once played at Goddard. Great crowd. I would have been at Goddard from the Fall of '72 'till I left for MIU in '75. I remember Bill Brunelle , although he didn't live in the TM- dorm when I lived there(maybe '74...). Andy Stevens, Toby Fineblum( who was on M. Divine and later married and ran(?) Pacific Palisades at one point. Then, strangely, I heard she died...)., Jeffrey Goodman that's all I remember. But Goddard was quite the alternative place to be in those years. BTW,Rick, I remember you well from courses and MIU. You had a sister, too,right?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM available via low cost student loan
Do you think this can be done in any state? Off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Einar Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:25:39 -0600 Subject: TM available via low cost student loan From: Einar Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mary Cathryn Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear South and West Texas Yogic Flyers and Meditators, Attached and below is an outline of a new MUM Course which allows almost anyone to learn TM by paying very small monthly payments via a low-interest student loan. The student doesn¹t have to be currently enrolled at any educational or other kind of institution. $25-31/month is the estimated monthly payment. We encourage and invite you to tell all those you know who may be interested. Or may not have yet become interested. They can contact us. Go ahead and encourage them to learn TM now. Jai Guru Dev, Einar Mary Cathryn 787 1074 Maharishi University of Management Financial aid for the Transcendental Meditation program now available to the general public December 1, 2005 Your Highness Raja Bob Wynne, Maharishi University of Management is pleased to announce a course for the general public that includes instruction in the Transcendental Meditation program. Most course participants can receive financial aid from the University in the form of long-term, low-interest CitiAssist educational loans even if they're not currently enrolled at any college. An information sheet is provided below, which explains the key aspects of the course. If you wish, this course can be offered at the Peace Palaces and Maharishi Enlightenment Centers in your domain. We offer our deep gratitude to you for creating a fertile ground for the rapid expansion of Maharishi's programs in the USA. Jai Guru Dev Ron Barnett Dean of Admissions Maharishi University of Management Financial aid for the Transcendental Meditation program now available to the general public December 1, 2005 To: Peace Palaces and Maharishi Enlightenment Centers in the USA Maharishi University of Management is pleased to announce a course for the general public that includes instruction in the Transcendental Meditation program. The course can be taken at any U.S. Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center, who will jointly sponsor the course with the University. Most course participants are eligible for financial aid from the University in the form of long-term, low-interest CitiAssist educational loans even if they¹re not currently enrolled at any college. Here are the key points about this course: 1. Any Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center in the USA can offer this course, and participants can start at any time. 2.The 2-credit non-degree course is entitled The Transcendental Meditation Program: Developing Total Brain Potential. It consists of the 7 steps, periodic checking, and two advanced lectures. The course description and admission form (including printable PDF versions) are located at http://mum.edu/tmcourse http://mum.edu/tmcourse 3. The tuition of $2,500 will be fully credited to the applicable Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center. The University will not retain any of the tuition, and will not charge any processing or other fees. 4. For regulatory reasons, this course cannot be promoted as leading to a degree or certificate. However, it¹s acceptable for students at other colleges to request a transfer of credits toward whatever degree program they¹re enrolled in. Joint sponsorship 5. The University will jointly sponsor this course with the Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center in each locale. 6. In the joint sponsorship, the University will provide the distance education components (i.e. videotaped lectures), and the local entity will provide the personal instruction and checking. 7. It is important for all advertising and promotional materials to be reviewed in advance by the University's General Counsel to ensure compliance with all legal and regulatory requirements. CitiAssist educational loans from Citibank 8. All course participants including adults no longer in college may apply for the CitiAssist educational loan to cover the full tuition. Applicants with a negative credit history may not qualify. 9. Undergraduate students currently enrolled at other colleges will normally need a co-signer however, they can seek federal aid (without a co-signer) through their own college if they arrange transfer credit. 10.Graduate students do not need a co-signer for CitiAssist loans.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
on 12/6/05 9:45 PM, ysoy10li at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have been at Goddard from the Fall of '72 'till I left for MIU in '75. I remember Bill Brunelle , although he didn't live in the TM- dorm when I lived there(maybe '74...). I'm sure he had graduated by then. I think he's on Purusha now. Andy Stevens, Toby Fineblum( who was on M. Divine and later married and ran(?) Pacific Palisades at one point. Then, strangely, I heard she died...)., She had cancer. She was married to my friend Ted Weisman. Jeffrey Goodman that's all I remember. But Goddard was quite the alternative place to be in those years. BTW,Rick, I remember you well from courses and MIU. You had a sister, too,right?? Yes. Carol. Now Carol Morehead. Married to Paul Morehead of MUM Faculty. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM available via low cost student loan
Don't know, but there's contact info in the email. on 12/6/05 10:00 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think this can be done in any state? Off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Einar Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:25:39 -0600 Subject: TM available via low cost student loan From: Einar Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mary Cathryn Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear South and West Texas Yogic Flyers and Meditators, Attached and below is an outline of a new MUM Course which allows almost anyone to learn TM by paying very small monthly payments via a low-interest student loan. The student doesn¹t have to be currently enrolled at any educational or other kind of institution. $25-31/month is the estimated monthly payment. We encourage and invite you to tell all those you know who may be interested. Or may not have yet become interested. They can contact us. Go ahead and encourage them to learn TM now. Jai Guru Dev, Einar Mary Cathryn 787 1074 Maharishi University of Management Financial aid for the Transcendental Meditation program now available to the general public December 1, 2005 Your Highness Raja Bob Wynne, Maharishi University of Management is pleased to announce a course for the general public that includes instruction in the Transcendental Meditation program. Most course participants can receive financial aid from the University in the form of long-term, low-interest CitiAssist educational loans even if they're not currently enrolled at any college. An information sheet is provided below, which explains the key aspects of the course. If you wish, this course can be offered at the Peace Palaces and Maharishi Enlightenment Centers in your domain. We offer our deep gratitude to you for creating a fertile ground for the rapid expansion of Maharishi's programs in the USA. Jai Guru Dev Ron Barnett Dean of Admissions Maharishi University of Management Financial aid for the Transcendental Meditation program now available to the general public December 1, 2005 To: Peace Palaces and Maharishi Enlightenment Centers in the USA Maharishi University of Management is pleased to announce a course for the general public that includes instruction in the Transcendental Meditation program. The course can be taken at any U.S. Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center, who will jointly sponsor the course with the University. Most course participants are eligible for financial aid from the University in the form of long-term, low-interest CitiAssist educational loans even if they¹re not currently enrolled at any college. Here are the key points about this course: 1. Any Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center in the USA can offer this course, and participants can start at any time. 2.The 2-credit non-degree course is entitled The Transcendental Meditation Program: Developing Total Brain Potential. It consists of the 7 steps, periodic checking, and two advanced lectures. The course description and admission form (including printable PDF versions) are located at http://mum.edu/tmcourse http://mum.edu/tmcourse 3. The tuition of $2,500 will be fully credited to the applicable Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center. The University will not retain any of the tuition, and will not charge any processing or other fees. 4. For regulatory reasons, this course cannot be promoted as leading to a degree or certificate. However, it¹s acceptable for students at other colleges to request a transfer of credits toward whatever degree program they¹re enrolled in. Joint sponsorship 5. The University will jointly sponsor this course with the Peace Palace or Maharishi Enlightenment Center in each locale. 6. In the joint sponsorship, the University will provide the distance education components (i.e. videotaped lectures), and the local entity will provide the personal instruction and checking. 7. It is important for all advertising and promotional materials to be reviewed in advance by the University's General Counsel to ensure compliance with all legal and regulatory requirements. CitiAssist educational loans from Citibank 8. All course participants including adults no longer in college may apply for the CitiAssist educational loan to cover the full tuition. Applicants with a negative credit history may not qualify. 9. Undergraduate students currently enrolled at other colleges will normally need a co-signer however, they can seek federal aid (without a co-signer) through their own college if
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 9:45 PM, ysoy10li at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have been at Goddard from the Fall of '72 'till I left for MIU in '75. I remember Bill Brunelle , although he didn't live in the TM- dorm when I lived there(maybe '74...). I'm sure he had graduated by then. I think he's on Purusha now. Andy Stevens, Toby Fineblum( who was on M. Divine and later married and ran(?) Pacific Palisades at one point. Then, strangely, I heard she died...)., She had cancer. She was married to my friend Ted Weisman. Jeffrey Goodman that's all I remember. But Goddard was quite the alternative place to be in those years. BTW,Rick, I remember you well from courses and MIU. You had a sister, too,right?? Yes. Carol. Now Carol Morehead. Married to Paul Morehead of MUM Faculty. And a strange dude (my initiator...) named John Lacy. Anyone run into him?? Years later he might(sorry...instant gossip...) have gotten himself 86'd by the TMO for his business and philandering in Bangkok...I know he was seriously into gems, specifically emeralds. At one point he was going to be my mentor in Thailand and show me the Emerald Ropes (with a considerable cash investment from me...). I got too much of a sleazy vibe from him and declined. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 9:45 PM, ysoy10li at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have been at Goddard from the Fall of '72 'till I left for MIU in '75. I remember Bill Brunelle , although he didn't live in the TM- dorm when I lived there(maybe '74...). I'm sure he had graduated by then. I think he's on Purusha now. Andy Stevens, Toby Fineblum( who was on M. Divine and later married and ran(?) Pacific Palisades at one point. Then, strangely, I heard she died...)., She had cancer. She was married to my friend Ted Weisman. I went to Goddard too! I was there until around 1972 or so. I finally left because they wouldn't let me do all my degree program teaching TM. I lived in the natural food dorm on the north campus which then morphed into the TM after I had gone off to teacher training in Mallorca. Keith Thompson was there and I think sort of the organizer of that dorm. I travelled around Vermont teaching with Bill Brunelle for a while and then left for various parts of NY State ending up in the Chicago area in 74 or so. I also remember Carl Stone who was doing real estate in Fairfield but I haven't heard from him in years. I spoke with Bill Brunelle about 4-5 months ago as he was off to India for panchakarma in Kerala. He has been in NYC doing his magic thing. I know he took the recert course, but haven't heard from him since. Keith Thompson, a great guy by the way, is in the TV business and is on the Board of Directors at Goddard! I saw him in LA this past spring and he's doing great. Last I heard he was in Kerala for a vacation/panchakarma. There were so many initiators and teachers that came out of that time at Goddard in the 70's. Man, what a crazy place it was though. Really nuts. For those who were there, do you remember when they got The Youngbloods to come play for free if we bulit them a stage where they could watch the sunset while they played.? What a wacky time it was. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Keeping Things Quiet (was Re: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yer just a plain nut. Its quite obvious that you have some kind of anger and pain that can only be appeased by mocking other people's pain and guilt under the guise of requesting inner revelations. I think my husband would agree with you! Irmeli Let's play pretend: I have a much better idea than the one you propose below. I think you should pretend you didn't feel you had to answer every single post on FFLife with your meaningless nonsensical reflexive chatter. Let's pretend that I have had anger and hurt and emotional pain to the point that I would scream hard enough that I would rip the muscles of my adominal wall, making my para-umbilical hernia worse. Let's pretend that you, as the internet counselor of great fame and competence could evoke or re-evoke such feelings, bringing about a further crying and screaming session with me lying on the ground, curled in a ball sobbing while waves of pain were followed by waves of euphoria as my body produced endorphins to try to compensate for said torn muscles. Are you equiped, over the internet or in person, to deal with such a reaction? Are you prepared to take the consequences of furthering my physical problems? Let's pretend that as a result of said screaming that my hernia is now large enough that I can't exercise without either a brace of some kind or doing a Napaleon of literally holding my guts in. And that if I don't, I have to make disgusting squishing sounds as I poke my intestines back inside my abdomen. Are you emotionally, intellectually, and financially prepared to handle the consequences of your manipulation of my emotions in such a way, even though it must be obvious to all that it is really for the best for me to let go, even over the internet? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
on 12/6/05 10:41 PM, benjaminccollins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to Goddard too! I was there until around 1972 or so. I just posted a photo of my band at http://tinyurl.com/avjpw See if you guys remember us. We played there in the spring of 1970 or so. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis and Judaism
Apparently Maharishi has commented on the connection between ancient Jewish teachings and the knowledge he is presenting. I think there was a video or magazine available in Isreal where he is interviewed on this. Someone in the TM movement in Isreal would know about that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dr. Natan Ophir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for anyone interested in comparative studies of TM-Sidhis with similar practical techniques in Judaism such as R. Yitzahk Sagi Nahor (R. Isaac the Blind, the 12th century father of Jewish Mysticism) on reaching the source of thought, the Admor of Piacezna's technique of quieting down the mind, Maimonides' Guide to the Perplexed 3,51 on Devekut Consciousness achieved through Meditative practice and many more... Rabbi Dr. Natan Ophir Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 10:41 PM, benjaminccollins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to Goddard too! I was there until around 1972 or so. I just posted a photo of my band at http://tinyurl.com/avjpw See if you guys remember us. We played there in the spring of 1970 or so. Great photo! I recall that I was at Goddard late in 71 because I went to TTC in the fall. Then I was there for just a while but kept going off to teach, so I'm afraid that I don't recall the band. Looks great though...just like I remember that era. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 10:41 PM, benjaminccollins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to Goddard too! I was there until around 1972 or so. I just posted a photo of my band at http://tinyurl.com/avjpw See if you guys remember us. We played there in the spring of 1970 or so. Great photo! I recall that I was at Goddard late in 71 because I went to TTC in the fall. Then I was there for just a while but kept going off to teach, so I'm afraid that I don't recall the band. Looks great though...just like I remember that era. They all look like they've just been condemned to death... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM-Sidhis and Judaism
I have a copy of the video. It's probably fairly rare in the U.S. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently Maharishi has commented on the connection between ancient Jewish teachings and the knowledge he is presenting. I think there was a video or magazine available in Isreal where he is interviewed on this. Someone in the TM movement in Isreal would know about that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dr. Natan Ophir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for anyone interested in comparative studies of TM-Sidhis with similar practical techniques in Judaism such as R. Yitzahk Sagi Nahor (R. Isaac the Blind, the 12th century father of Jewish Mysticism) on reaching the source of thought, the Admor of Piacezna's technique of quieting down the mind, Maimonides' Guide to the Perplexed 3,51 on Devekut Consciousness achieved through Meditative practice and many more... Rabbi Dr. Natan Ophir Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vermont, was: Hurdy Gurdy Man revealed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/6/05 10:41 PM, benjaminccollins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to Goddard too! I was there until around 1972 or so. I just posted a photo of my band at http://tinyurl.com/avjpw See if you guys remember us. We played there in the spring of 1970 or so. Great photo! I recall that I was at Goddard late in 71 because I went to TTC in the fall. Then I was there for just a while but kept going off to teach, so I'm afraid that I don't recall the band. Looks great though...just like I remember that era. They all look like they've just been condemned to death... Well, I guess those days one was supposed to look like that. Here's a Finnish band (Wigwam) from about the same era, I believe. The lead singer on the right is Jim Pembroke from GB. The drummer next to him, Ronnie Österberg, committed suicide a couple of years later. http://snipurl.com/kkah Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
