[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brahmanada wouldn't even be accessible to us if not for Maharishi, so its impossible to separate the two-- they are continuously working in tandem; one heart and one goal. This notion that Guru Dev has somehow spurned Maharishi or that Maharishi is lost in the sauce is a silly one from my point of view. I respect others' points of view on this though-- seriously. They share the same breath as I see it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: What about the hats used for graduation from college in the USA ? Looks pretty weird to me... What! Every school child knows, mein hat it has four corners, four corners has mein hat. And had it not four corners, it would not be mein hat Well, whadya know! Like My Hut hat vier Ecken(sp?)? Where have you been? lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, what's the american word for my reaction to this put down from you Jim ? Oh yes; rats... :-) I wasn't putting you down-- more replying in kind to John's sarcasm. I answered your post directly as you can see. It was a joke :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhaagavata-puraaNa, a commentary on Vedaanta-suutra?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Card, What is this all about? Gaudiya Vaishvavas are well known for their virulent and doctrinare theological views. Not all are like that although most are like that only times x 2. Thus your point is?? Well, should've quoted the part about BP being a commentary on vedaanta-suutraaNi. Quite an extensive commentary! :D --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There is no point in arguing that a materialistic man can be happy. No materialistic creature be he the great Brahm#257; or an insignificant ant can be happy. Everyone tries to make a permanent plan for happiness, but everyone is baffled by the laws of material nature. Therefore the materialistic world is called the darkest region of God's creation. Yet the unhappy materialists can get out of it simply by desiring to get out. Unfortunately they are so foolish that they do not want to escape. Therefore they are compared to the camel who relishes thorny twigs because he likes the taste of the twigs mixed with blood. He does not realize that it is his own blood and that his tongue is being cut by the thorns. Similarly, to the materialist his own blood is as sweet as honey, and although he is always harassed by his own material creations, he does not wish to escape. Teh whole text: http://vedabase.net/sb/1/2/3/en
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply, Nablusoss. I would have loved to be on Purusha (or so I feel) but was already firmly entrenched in the householder lifestyle when Maharishi started the program. Chances are that I wouldn't have lasted but I'm always interested in those folks who committed themselves to their sadhana and respect them very much for it and admire those, like yourself and others here who were once in that particular program. It's cool that you have continued contact and good relations with friends who have chosen another path or teacher. It says a lot. Jai Guru Dev Marek P.S. Did you ever get to Uttar Kashi yourself? Perhaps you can go on Purusha when your duties as a householder is over ? In the not so distant future I think that smaller groups of Purushas will be established in many parts of the world. The UttarkashiGroup was formed just after I left the programme. Maharishi wanted 3 groups of Purushas for many years; one that would be totally focussed on silence, one that would be very active with only a short programme, and one group to act as an intermediate between the two. This did not really work until the people with different tendencies was physically relocated, as they are now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clash Classic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. http://youtube.com/watch?v=OAkfHShATKY OffWorld Clash, Stranglers? I'm dewy-eyed with nostalgia! But this is the Clash classic; http://youtube.com/watch?v=IXfaxEaPOjw I daren't look to see if there's anything else from my era I'd be here all day.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you can go on Purusha when your duties as a householder is over ? Isn't that what David Duchovny's character does in Californication? Now that his householder duties are over He drives around Hollywood in a convertible Purusha and picks up babes. Ooops, sorry. That's a Porsche, not a Purusha. It's so hard to tell the difference these days, especially when the cost is so similar.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Perhaps you can go on Purusha when your duties as a householder is over ? Isn't that what David Duchovny's character does in Californication? Now that his householder duties are over He drives around Hollywood in a convertible Purusha and picks up babes. Ooops, sorry. That's a Porsche, not a Purusha. It's so hard to tell the difference these days, especially when the cost is so similar. And you will fool around dashing out less than sucessfull sarcasms wasting the little left of your life.
[FairfieldLife] Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Offworld did me a big favour by setting me searching through youtube for some of my old favourite punk bands. It's been great hearing The Damned, Killing Joke, The Stiff Little Fingers, The Ruts etc etc again. It's like visiting a previous life. But there's one band I loved for their total no compromise stance, I haven't heard this for 25 years and am amazed at how pertinent it still seems to me. They are smart and these lyrics obviously had an effect on the way I think. Reading this again is like discovering the archaeology of my mind, and I'd completely forgotten them. The band is called Crass they are as angry as hell. http://youtube.com/watch?v=u7D9aoq6wfc Just in case you can't stand the music here are the lyrics. Where Next Columbus? by Crass Anothers left, anothers right, Anothers peace, anothers fight. Marx had an idea from the confusion of his head, Then there were a thousand more waiting to be led. The books are sold, the quotes are bought, You learn them well and then you're caught. Anothers left, anothers right, Anothers peace, anothers fight. Mussolini had an idea from the confusion of his heart, Then there were a thousand more waiting to play their part. The stage was set, the costumes worn And another empire of destruction born. Anothers name, anothers aim, Anothers fall, anothers fame. Jung had an idea from the confusion of his dream, Then there were a thousand more waiting to be seen. You're not yourself the theory says, But I can help, your complex pays. Anothers hope, anothers game, Anothers loss, anothers gain. Sartre had an idea from the confusion of his brain, Then there were a thousand more indulging in his pain, Revelling in isolation and existential choice; Can you truly be alone when you use anothers voice? Anothers lies, anothers truth, Anothers doubt, anothers proof. The idea born in someones mind Is nurtured by a thousand blind Anonymous beings, vacuous souls, Do you fear the confusion, your lack of control? You lift your arm to write a name, So caught up in the identity game. Who do you see? Who do you watch? Who's your leader? Which is your flock? Who do you watch? Who do you watch? Einsten had an idea from the confusion of his knowledge, Then there were a thousand more turning to advantage. They realised that their god was dead, So they reclaimed power through the bomb instead. Anothers code, anothers brain, They'll shower us all in deadly rain, Jesus had an idea from the confusion of his soul, Then there were a thousand more waiting to take control. The guilt is sold, forgiveness bought, The cross is there as your reward. Anothers love, anothers pain, Anothers pride, anothers shame. Do you watch at a distance from the side you have chosen? Whose answers serve you best? Who'll save you from confusion? Who will leave you an exit and a comfortable cover? Who will take you so near their edge, but never drop you over? Who do you watch? Who do you watch? [ www.plyrics.com ] (edited by me)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clash Classic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clash, Stranglers? I'm dewy-eyed with nostalgia! . . . I daren't look to see if there's anything else from my era I'd be here all day. I was already old and in the way by the time the Clash and the Stranglers arrived. But since you guys got me on the nostalgia kick, here are the bands we used to hire and put on light shows with and party down with in my formative era: The Grateful Dead, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axAfNjgdey4 The Grateful Dead, Playboy After Dark, 1969: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYmIu_njso4 Quicksilver Messenger Service, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqVVnExlX9c Quicksilver Messenger Service, Mona live, 1969: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpTGM74dbuQ Jefferson Airplane, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ww_RYl68E Buffalo Springfield, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9PiEgYYUU The Byrds, 1966: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLzzlQj6b6M The Doors, 1966: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_JN5lPCC0 Moby Grape, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHc1pJ9RMLk Jimi Hendrix, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3WeABKGckc Hiring these bands cost $1500-2000 a night. Nobody asked whether we had any insurance, or security guards, or whether we knew what we were doing. You could literally just plunk down a deposit on a venue, hire the band, get your friends unstoned enough to work the light-show projectors, and put on a show. We never really made any money from it, but we got to party with the bands and hustle the leftover groupies. Ah, the Sixties...after the pill, before AIDS, and before meditation morality screwed everything up...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Perhaps you can go on Purusha when your duties as a householder is over ? Isn't that what David Duchovny's character does in Californication? Now that his householder duties are over He drives around Hollywood in a convertible Purusha and picks up babes. Ooops, sorry. That's a Porsche, not a Purusha. It's so hard to tell the difference these days, especially when the cost is so similar. And you will fool around dashing out less than sucessfull sarcasms wasting the little left of your life. I wasn't being sarcastic; I think it's the same phenomenon. Some guys, when they reach mid-life crisis age, buy a Porsche so that they can impress other people and get them to think that their life isn't as empty as it really is. Others join Purusha, for the same reason. :-) Just a joke, you former Purusha types. The part that isn't a joke is that both types of guys -- the guy who buys a Porsche and the guy who buys into Purusha -- are clearly *in need of some- thing* to make their lives seem meaningful. Normal, everyday life isn't *enough* for them. So both types of guys go for the reigning status symbols of their respective cultures. And status symbols -- whatever they might be -- are for two purposes. The first is to convince the guy who buys them or buys into them that he's on the right track. The second, and often more important, is to convince *others* in his world that he's on the right track. For the guy who lives in the world, the Porsche is one of the ultimate status symbols he can use to impress other people. Within the TMO, with its tend- ency to publicly preach Meditate 20-20 and engage in activity and yet privately revere those who live completely reclusive lifestyles, being on Purusha is one of the ultimate status symbols. And, like David Duchovny's character in the TV series, some hang onto the status symbol long past its time. Duchovny's Porsche is getting old and beat up, and no longer screams Success, but its opposite. And I'm sorry, but for someone who wouldn't be allowed within half a mile of an official TM butt-bouncing dome to still be waving his former Purusha status around like it was some kinda badge of honor kinda has the same effect. Like others here, Nablus, I'm happy that you seem to be happy with your chosen lifestyle, and that you have room in it for friends who are no longer On The Program. That's cool. But hanging on to the glory of a former reclusive lifestyle that wasn't terribly glorious to begin with strikes me as far more of a waste of life than what I do with mine.
[FairfieldLife] Battle For The Republic Exposes Real Agenda
*Battle For The Republic http://battle-for-the-republic.playz.it/ Exposes * *Real Immigration Agenda **Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet, October 30, 2007 * *Elite using balkanization strategy to * *destroy American sovereignty and * *create third world cesspit. * Alex Jones' Battle For The Republic exposes how the elite are using illegal immigration and pushing amnesty as a means of pulverizing the American middle class and ensuring that U.S. citizens, black, white and hispanic alike, are forced to sacrifice their freedom and sovereignty as America is sunk into a third world cesspool. The mini-documentary lifts the lid on how the backlash against rampant illegal immigration in America is a major concern for the Bilderberg Group, posing a threat to their plans to lower the living standards of U.S. citizens of all colors and creeds into second or even third world status. What is the real agenda behind last year's massive pro-illegal immigration demonstrations and who is really behind them? Battle For the Republic traces the legacy of the movement back to the Plan of San Diego, a shocking blueprint for race-based genocide directed against blacks and whites in America. The goal is to divide America by bankrolling the Aztlan movement, an extremist separatist plan on behalf of Mexican Ku Klux Klan style groups like Mecha and La Raza to reclaim the southern and western U.S. states, in order to eventually merge America, Canada and Mexico into a North American Union. Battle For The Republic shoots down the myth that Mexico has any rightful claim to the south western states by carefully documenting the history of how the west was won, bringing it up to the modern day and highlighting how the elite are using the enraged Mexican mobs as a weapon of conquest to slit America's throat and sacrifice its sovereignty on the altar of globalism. Hispanic Radio and TV stations owned by huge corporations based in New York spew hatred and division as Mexicans are radicalized and told that all their problems stem from the racist American middle class while ignoring the fact that the elite are the true cause of their misery, as taxpayers are sucked dry to fund welfare which only subsidizes the corporations that employ the illegals. Illegal aliens are being granted God-like status by the elite and given rights that super seed those of American citizens. The film highlights the case of a man who was assaulted and arrested by police for expressing his first amendment right to disagree with thousands of illegal aliens marching in downtown Seattle, and how illegals who assaulted him and smashed his car were left completely alone while throngs of Mexicans cheered as an American was taken to jail for exercising his freedom of speech. Now you're bleeding, what's it like now, bitch! yells one illegal as blood drips from the man's face. Battle For the Republic ends with Alex Jones' infamous protest of Vicente Fox when he came to Austin to give awards to police for breaking federal laws by not arresting illegal aliens. Fox was forced to cut his speech short after Alex Jones bullhorned the truth about his role in destroying American sovereignty, making headlines across Texas. ~~~ You may learn more about Alex Jones, PrisonPlanet.com, and his various offerings, including Battle for the Republic *HERE *http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...le_republic.htm: http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...le_republic.htm And you can see a clip from his work, *Battle for the Republic* *HERE http://battle-for-the-republic.playz.it/*: http://Battle-For-The-Republic.playz.it http://battle-for-the-republic.playz.it/
[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
About performing worship there is almost nothing to say. If you do not worship Bhagavan [God] then you will fall down worshipping the raja, the nobleman, the merchant and the moneylender. [...] Whoever will not worship Bhagavan is then a licentious base person who will fall down and worship the raja, the nobleman, the merchant and the moneylender. If you will not get help from the greater then you will fall down and accept assistance from the lesser. Therefore it is the wise mind that goes for the support of Paramatma [God] who gives what we desire in both this world and the next. However well-off a man has become, afterwards his wealth will only remain limited and also sometimes shifts (worsens), that day can be. Therefore don't look for support from one whose condition is not settled, then you will rise up. The most ingenious one of all is the one who worships Paramatma to always stay happy in th[is] world and the other world. [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 4 of 108] translation - Paul Mason © 2007 http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#kaNa4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Clash Classic
TurquoiseB wrote: I was already old and in the way by the time the Clash and the Stranglers arrived. But since you guys got me on the nostalgia kick, here are the bands we used to hire and put on light shows with and party down with in my formative era: The Grateful Dead, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axAfNjgdey4 The Grateful Dead, Playboy After Dark, 1969: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYmIu_njso4 Quicksilver Messenger Service, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqVVnExlX9c Quicksilver Messenger Service, Mona live, 1969: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpTGM74dbuQ Jefferson Airplane, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ww_RYl68E Buffalo Springfield, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9PiEgYYUU The Byrds, 1966: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLzzlQj6b6M The Doors, 1966: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_JN5lPCC0 Moby Grape, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHc1pJ9RMLk Jimi Hendrix, Monterey, 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3WeABKGckc Hiring these bands cost $1500-2000 a night. Nobody asked whether we had any insurance, or security guards, or whether we knew what we were doing. You could literally just plunk down a deposit on a venue, hire the band, get your friends unstoned enough to work the light-show projectors, and put on a show. We never really made any money from it, but we got to party with the bands and hustle the leftover groupies. Ah, the Sixties...after the pill, before AIDS, and before meditation morality screwed everything up... Barry Tantra - King of the Light Shows.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
TurquoiseB wrote: I wasn't being sarcastic; I think it's the same phenomenon. Some guys, when they reach mid-life crisis age, buy a Porsche so that they can impress other people and get them to think that their life isn't as empty as it really is. Others join Purusha, for the same reason. :-) Just a joke, you former Purusha types. The part that isn't a joke is that both types of guys -- the guy who buys a Porsche and the guy who buys into Purusha -- are clearly *in need of some- thing* to make their lives seem meaningful. Normal, everyday life isn't *enough* for them. So both types of guys go for the reigning status symbols of their respective cultures. And status symbols -- whatever they might be -- are for two purposes. The first is to convince the guy who buys them or buys into them that he's on the right track. The second, and often more important, is to convince *others* in his world that he's on the right track. For the guy who lives in the world, the Porsche is one of the ultimate status symbols he can use to impress other people. Within the TMO, with its tend- ency to publicly preach Meditate 20-20 and engage in activity and yet privately revere those who live completely reclusive lifestyles, being on Purusha is one of the ultimate status symbols. And, like David Duchovny's character in the TV series, some hang onto the status symbol long past its time. Duchovny's Porsche is getting old and beat up, and no longer screams Success, but its opposite. And I'm sorry, but for someone who wouldn't be allowed within half a mile of an official TM butt-bouncing dome to still be waving his former Purusha status around like it was some kinda badge of honor kinda has the same effect. Like others here, Nablus, I'm happy that you seem to be happy with your chosen lifestyle, and that you have room in it for friends who are no longer On The Program. That's cool. But hanging on to the glory of a former reclusive lifestyle that wasn't terribly glorious to begin with strikes me as far more of a waste of life than what I do with mine. So says the preacher, Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Is America Ready For A FLILF?
For those who missed this bit on John Stewart. Special heads up to New and Turq. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/30/is-america-ready-for-a-flilf/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Creation Hymn - Rig Veda 10:129:1-7 [was: Question for Cardemeister]
AUM BHOOR BHUWAH SWAHA, TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM BHARGO DEVASAYA DHEEMAHI DHIYO YO NAHA PRACHODAYAT. You need to get some smarts, Mr. Matrixmouth. There's no AUM in the Rig Veda, that nonsense syllable was added much later, during the Gupta Age, following the rise of the bhakti sects. Strictly speaking, OM isn't really a bija mantra at all, but simply one of many phonemes invented by city slicker fakirs and snake charmers to fool the gullible public and tourists in Old Delhi. According to the Rig Veda, Mandala IX and X, by drinking the sacred Soma, the elixir of the Supernal Gods, men and women discovered the power of the forces of nature, and thus became humbled and quite reflective. Later, with the adaption of introspection, that is, the meditation on non-ideational mnemonic devices, namely the Savatri, personified as the radiating sun, reflective humans are able to attain the transcendent, which enters into mental cognition, and enlivens the thinking process, producing spontaneous inner awakening. But these notions are almost all derived from historical Buddhism and the Siddha tradition. There's no idea of enlightenment, renunciation or asceticism in the Vedas. The Vedas concern is with the blood sacrifice and the inebriating decotion Soma. It's as simple as that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is America Ready For A FLILF?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who missed this bit on John Stewart. Special heads up to New and Turq. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/30/is-america-ready-for-a-flilf/ We're all going to a special Hell designed by Edg. I'm taking advantage of the Spanish holiday by catch- ing up on several episodes of Californication and you're posting stuff like this. We're all gonna fry. :-) This is one funny bit. Thanks, and pass the ice cubes...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Battle For The Republic Exposes Real Agenda
Now this guy writes like me! And he's speaking the truth. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PROUT News [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Battle For The Republic http://battle-for-the-republic.playz.it/ Exposes * *Real Immigration Agenda **Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet, October 30, 2007 * *Elite using balkanization strategy to * *destroy American sovereignty and * *create third world cesspit. * Alex Jones' Battle For The Republic exposes how the elite are using illegal immigration and pushing amnesty as a means of pulverizing the American middle class and ensuring that U.S. citizens, black, white and hispanic alike, are forced to sacrifice their freedom and sovereignty as America is sunk into a third world cesspool. The mini-documentary lifts the lid on how the backlash against rampant illegal immigration in America is a major concern for the Bilderberg Group, posing a threat to their plans to lower the living standards of U.S. citizens of all colors and creeds into second or even third world status. What is the real agenda behind last year's massive pro-illegal immigration demonstrations and who is really behind them? Battle For the Republic traces the legacy of the movement back to the Plan of San Diego, a shocking blueprint for race-based genocide directed against blacks and whites in America. The goal is to divide America by bankrolling the Aztlan movement, an extremist separatist plan on behalf of Mexican Ku Klux Klan style groups like Mecha and La Raza to reclaim the southern and western U.S. states, in order to eventually merge America, Canada and Mexico into a North American Union. Battle For The Republic shoots down the myth that Mexico has any rightful claim to the south western states by carefully documenting the history of how the west was won, bringing it up to the modern day and highlighting how the elite are using the enraged Mexican mobs as a weapon of conquest to slit America's throat and sacrifice its sovereignty on the altar of globalism. Hispanic Radio and TV stations owned by huge corporations based in New York spew hatred and division as Mexicans are radicalized and told that all their problems stem from the racist American middle class while ignoring the fact that the elite are the true cause of their misery, as taxpayers are sucked dry to fund welfare which only subsidizes the corporations that employ the illegals. Illegal aliens are being granted God-like status by the elite and given rights that super seed those of American citizens. The film highlights the case of a man who was assaulted and arrested by police for expressing his first amendment right to disagree with thousands of illegal aliens marching in downtown Seattle, and how illegals who assaulted him and smashed his car were left completely alone while throngs of Mexicans cheered as an American was taken to jail for exercising his freedom of speech. Now you're bleeding, what's it like now, bitch! yells one illegal as blood drips from the man's face. Battle For the Republic ends with Alex Jones' infamous protest of Vicente Fox when he came to Austin to give awards to police for breaking federal laws by not arresting illegal aliens. Fox was forced to cut his speech short after Alex Jones bullhorned the truth about his role in destroying American sovereignty, making headlines across Texas. ~~~ You may learn more about Alex Jones, PrisonPlanet.com, and his various offerings, including Battle for the Republic *HERE *http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...le_republic.htm: http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...le_republic.htm And you can see a clip from his work, *Battle for the Republic* *HERE http://battle-for-the-republic.playz.it/*: http://Battle-For-The-Republic.playz.it http://battle-for-the-republic.playz.it/
[FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharishi- book with unusual acounting
Hello, Comments from my Guru about this book: This book is called Padamami ( I think). It is also edited by David Godman, and the acounting was by one that was with Ramana. The difference in this book compard with other acountings is the real essence of what the path is there without sugar coatings. This book reflects all the methodologies and understandings which are in mt path to the T Hridaya
[FairfieldLife] Harmless Barry the Bard (Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?)
No comment, except to repost and emphasize the bit of Edgwork below. It really *can't* be commented on, and should stand on its own. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No harm to the soul to have anything pass though a mind, but to repeat on purpose anything but a prayer is a sin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Cardemeister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote: A friend wants to know: Do you have a copy of the 10th Mandala? I'm looking for a hymn that describes creation there, how from nothing came something that one unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength or something like that. Is there anyway you could help me locate that hymn? I apologize for interjecting your direct question, but this is a favorite of mine. In addition to asyavaamasya (verse 39: Rco akSare...), that's my favorite, too. In my book, the first line is almost beyond description in its coolness in the original (Vedic) Sanskrit: naasadaasiinno sadaasiittadaaniim (that's how it looks in DN, as to the gaps...) For easier reading: na asad aasiin no sad aasiit tadaaniim. (But I think it should be pronounced without hiatus.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiatus_%28linguistics%29 Without sandhi: na+asat; aasiit; na+u [-no]; sat; aasiit; tadaaniim. The name naasadiiya comes, as has been pointed out, from the first words na+asad (without sandhi: na+asat).
[FairfieldLife] Harmless Barry the Bard (Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?)
Below we see that Barry is projecting the concept of predation -- again he's placed our community's mind onto this issue. He and Curtis are peppering this concept into their posts, like Fox News is spicing up all their broadcasts with prepping the masses for Iran bombing. In this post Edg is once again advocating that we pour gasoline on young children and light them on fire. I am outraged by his constant advocacy for lighting young children on fire and hereby put him on notice that I oppose his attempts to convince people that lighting young children on fire is appropriate behavior. It is not and I stand against Edg's constant barrage of posts that try to recruit people for this demonic mission. While I agree with you completely that Edg's post has *exactly* as much to do with recruiting people to burn helpless young women alive as my post had to do with predation :-), to speak up for him I don't think that he would have actually gone *through* with burning any helpless young women alive. Not completely, that is. He would have stirred up the guys who responded to his troll, sent them out with their gas cans and waited. And then, just as they'd lit up the first helpless damsel, Edg would rush in with a 45 and kill all of his accomplices and wrap the poor defenseless victim up in a blanket and take her to the hospital and play the hero. When she recovered, he would make a big deal of loving her despite her burn scars, and offer to let her stay at his house until she's fully healed. Once there, Edg would turn her into a kind of weird literary love slave. That is, he wouldn't actually force her to have sex with him or anything; that would be a sin. Instead, he'd make her be first reader on the stories he writes, and afterwards give him her honest opinion. I think we all know what would happen to her if she ever really gave him her honest opinion. so she doesn't. Instead she finds a way to live with it until one night she's just had enough and pours gasoline over Edg as he's asleep and says to him as he wakes up in flames, The forced sex would have been kinder. Then she leaves and takes up with David Duchovny and lives happily ever after. Wow. This making things up about people's lives stuff is really fun.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Creation Hymn - Rig Veda 10:129:1-7 [was: Question for Cardemeister]
Michael Dean Goodman wrote: I. Translated by H. H. Wilson Kapila and Shakya the Muni blew to bits the Vedic notion of a Creation and a Creator: no Golden Egg, no Purusha primeval being, no existence before there was any determinate reality and subsequent evolution. You should be aware of extremists, chauvinists, and other types of deranged - and possibly dangerous - persons who expound on the Vedas, without the slightest idea of what they are talking about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is America Ready For A FLILF?
TurquoiseB wrote: I'm taking advantage of the Spanish holiday This is funny: Spaniards celebrating Halloween! by catch-ing up on several episodes of Californication So, you're taking a holiday to watch TV. and you're posting stuff like this. We're all gonna fry. :-) This is one funny bit. Thanks, and pass the ice cubes... Yes, funny - have another drink at the bar!
[FairfieldLife] Harmless Barry the Bard (Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?)
Curtis wrote: Wanna party troll? I'm in. This is outrageous!!!
[FairfieldLife] Harmless Barry the Bard (Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?)
TurquoiseB wrote: No harm to the soul to have anything pass though a mind, but to repeat on purpose anything but a prayer is a sin. Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Uncle Tantra Date: Friday, Mar 19 2004 2:06 am Subject: Re: For Uncle Tantra about DHMO - and fascist neocon Pagan Delia Sorta like Buffy the Vampire Slayer with a stake. :-) :-) :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Harmless Barry the Bard (Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?)
Next we should determine what the content and form of prayer shall be in order to qualify as prayer in your eyes, don't you think? Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: No harm to the soul to have anything pass though a mind, but to repeat on purpose anything but a prayer is a sin. Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Uncle Tantra Date: Friday, Mar 19 2004 2:06 am Subject: Re: For Uncle Tantra about DHMO - and fascist neocon Pagan Delia Sorta like Buffy the Vampire Slayer with a stake. :-) :-) :-) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Photos/Deities Returned to Absolute.PDF Uploaded by : rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Pundits Immersing Deities (and themselves) in the Skunk River You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Photos/Deities%20Returned%20to%20Absolute.PDF To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FairfieldLife] Pundits Drowning Deities
PDF file with photos just uploaded. Link coming in separate post. I thought you might like to see these photos. Probably never been done in North America before. Before the 9 Days of Mother Divine, the Maharishi Vedic City pundits needed to procrure statues of deities in order to perform puja and do yagyas in their traditional manner. By their request, they were taken to the nearest river, which happens to have the malodorous name of the Skunk River. Once there, they ceremoniously asked the blessing of the river goddess and then entered the very cold water with large urns on their shoulders and dipped low and came up with the river water filling their urns. Then they energetically dug wet clay from the river banks, lots of it, and cut dry grasses from the shoreline. When they had collected enough for their needs they returned to their homes in the pundit enclosure. Then they miraculously made these statues, most of them about 5 feet high but Durga about 8 feet high as she was the principal deity in the 9 days rites, out of water, clay and straw. I don’t know how they baked them dry. Perhaps in the sun which in October in Iowa is not as hot as in India! After they were dried, they must have applied some kind of sealant agent because they painted them in life like colors and laquered them to make them shiny and dressed them in wigs, real saris and ornaments. However, they did not paint the eyes on the face until after they had done puja to invoke the deities. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. And yet. And yet guys -- young and old -- still somehow believe that driving the right car will get a guy laid. Now isn't that one the biggest *disconnects* between the sexes, one of the grandest Mars- Venus juxtapositions you've ever heard? Guys, you should *hear* the things that women say about guys who drive flashy cars. They seem to have mistaken their gearshift knobs for their penises is the only comment I can think of that is PG-rated enough to post here. Women, please step up and be counted on this issue. I know what the women I know think on this issue, but what do you think? Here's a metaphor to help you out. If you were in L.A., single and unattached, and you saw David Duchovny drive up in an old, beat-up Porsche that hasn't been washed in months, and he invited you up to his place for a quickie, would any of the thoughts going through your head be along the lines of, Wow...I should say Yes because he has a nice car? Guys, would you *want* a woman who loved you for your car? If you drive a Ferrari and that's why she's with you, think about what it costs you to pay for the *maintenance* on that Ferrari every month and multiply it by ten to figure out the hit she's going to take out of your wallet. Let's put this male urban legend to rest once and for all. In my life, I've driven TR4s and VW Vanagons and Lexus two-seaters and Saab 96s and 4X4s and currently an old Peugeot 306 diesel, and not *one* of these cars ever seemed to have anything to do with how often I got laid -- no matter what my buddies told me back in high school.
[FairfieldLife] From Judy: Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Ooops, sorry. That's a Porsche, not a Purusha. It's so hard to tell the difference these days, especially when the cost is so similar. And you will fool around dashing out less than sucessfull sarcasms wasting the little left of your life. I wasn't being sarcastic Of course Barry was being sarcastic. snip The part that isn't a joke is that both types of guys -- the guy who buys a Porsche and the guy who buys into Purusha -- are clearly *in need of some- thing* to make their lives seem meaningful. Could be that the same is true of people who leave their native country and take up residence in a country in Europe, only to leave *that* country after a couple of years and move to another one, all the while bragging about their expatriate status and how much better life is where they are now (as they move restlessly from place to place). snip And I'm sorry, but for someone who wouldn't be allowed within half a mile of an official TM butt-bouncing dome As Barry knows, according to Nabby, he's in good standing with the TMO. And Barry, of course, knows nothing to the contrary. to still be waving his former Purusha status around like it was some kinda badge of honor kinda has the same effect. As Barry knows, Nabby wasn't waving it around, he was asked specifically about it by Marek. Like others here, Nablus, I'm happy that you seem to be happy with your chosen lifestyle, and that you have room in it for friends who are no longer On The Program. That's cool. But hanging on to the glory of a former reclusive lifestyle that wasn't terribly glorious to begin with strikes me as far more of a waste of life than what I do with mine. Says Barry, preaching to others (again) about what they should be doing with their lives (and deliberately misstating what they *are* doing with their lives). Normal, everyday life isn't *enough* for them, claims Barry. I'd suggest that, beyond traipsing from one country to another to another, normal, everyday *reality* isn't enough for Barry. He has to constantly embellish and embroider it with fantasies dreamed up for the express purpose of putting other people down and exalting himself. And as to hanging onto the glory of a former lifestyle, I do believe it was Barry who just posted a list of all the famous groups he used to set up shows for and boasted about how he got to party down with those bands. Not even his own glory, but what he borrowed from the truly glorious.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? I lived almost my entire life in Manhattan. Nobody I knew had a car. I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. And yet. And yet guys -- young and old -- still somehow believe that driving the right car will get a guy laid. Now isn't that one the biggest *disconnects* between the sexes, one of the grandest Mars- Venus juxtapositions you've ever heard? At least, between Edg and those particular six women, having just been asked that question by someone who obviously thought it was a crock and would ridicule them if they said they *would* take the car into account. snip Here's a metaphor to help you out. If you were in L.A., single and unattached, and you saw David Duchovny drive up in an old, beat-up Porsche that hasn't been washed in months, and he invited you up to his place for a quickie, would any of the thoughts going through your head be along the lines of, Wow...I should say Yes because he has a nice car? Not if it was David Duchovny. I'd say yes if he were in a wheelchair. But assuming it was a stranger in an old, beat-up, unwashed Porsche, it might factor in my decision because there would probably be an interesting story behind why he was driving it. A stranger in a new but dirty Porsche, maybe, for the same reason. A stranger in a new, shiny Porsche, I'd be tempted, but only for the sake of getting to ride in the Porsche. Let's put this male urban legend to rest once and for all. In my life, I've driven TR4s and VW Vanagons and Lexus two-seaters and Saab 96s and 4X4s and currently an old Peugeot 306 diesel, and not *one* of these cars ever seemed to have anything to do with how often I got laid -- no matter what my buddies told me back in high school. Ah, but if you'd only driven a Porsche, maybe you *would* have gotten laid.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's are worshipping Bhagavan. The most ingenious one of all is the one who worships Paramatma to always stay happy in th[is] world and the other world. This the role of these Rajas, and not what Guru Dev is referring to here, the state of Rajas represented at that time. The word ingenious is instructive- this post is what is known as disigenious --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About performing worship there is almost nothing to say. If you do not worship Bhagavan [God] then you will fall down worshipping the raja, the nobleman, the merchant and the moneylender. [...] Whoever will not worship Bhagavan is then a licentious base person who will fall down and worship the raja, the nobleman, the merchant and the moneylender. If you will not get help from the greater then you will fall down and accept assistance from the lesser. Therefore it is the wise mind that goes for the support of Paramatma [God] who gives what we desire in both this world and the next. However well-off a man has become, afterwards his wealth will only remain limited and also sometimes shifts (worsens), that day can be. Therefore don't look for support from one whose condition is not settled, then you will rise up. The most ingenious one of all is the one who worships Paramatma to always stay happy in th[is] world and the other world. [Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 4 of 108] translation - Paul Mason © 2007 http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#kaNa4
[FairfieldLife] From Judy: Re: Harmless Barry the Bard
Re: Harmless Barry the Bard (Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next we should determine what the content and form of prayer shall be in order to qualify as prayer in your eyes, don't you think? Edg wrote: No harm to the soul to have anything pass though a mind, but to repeat on purpose anything but a prayer is a sin. I didn't think Edg was referring to prayer as something with requirements for content or form, but rather as the kind of thought that is generated by reverence for life and respect for one's fellow creatures. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Edg.) - Edg replies: Yeah, Judy, that's about it. I think perseveration is a core form of self-abuse that most folks do not recognize. I sure have daily chagrin about my obsessions that effortlessly shake me like a rat in the jaws of an Airedale Terrier. To think something is true. Sheesh! The arrogance of meat robots knows no boundaries in this regard. Only when praying can one hope that thoughts will be some sort of a balm or at the least benign as one expands into the beyond. As TM mantras are touted to be, prayer thoughts -- defined by whatever dogma -- are considered safe as the ritam level is approached and this ideation becomes cosmically powerful. To repeat anything in the mind on purpose, say, an image of one's personality being a positive influence on young minds in a bar in Spain, is smacking the tarbaby of egoic identification and getting all the more entrapped. Br'er Rabbit's travail -- who here cannot see themselves? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhaagavata-puraaNa, a commentary on Vedaanta-suutra?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Card, What is this all about? Gaudiya Vaishvavas are well known for their virulent and doctrinare theological views. Not all are like that although most are like that only times x 2. Thus your point is?? Well, should've quoted the part about BP being a commentary on vedaanta-suutraaNi. Quite an extensive commentary! :D Yeah, thats typical Vaishnava Propaganda. For them BP is Veda and as authoritative as the Upanishads. From the same page, Prabhupada writes: '#346;r#299;mad-Bh#257;gavatam is the one unrivaled commentary on Ved#257;nta-s#363;tra. #346;r#299;p#257;da #346;a#324;kar#257;c#257;rya intentionally did not touch it because he knew that the natural commentary would be difficult for him to surpass. He wrote his #346;#257;r#299;raka-bh#257;sya, and his so-called followers deprecated the Bh#257;gavatam as some new presentation. ' Yet,what he forgets is that not only Shankara did not touch it, not thinking it worth to be commented on, but neither did Ramanuja, nor Nimbarka , that is 2 out of the 5 Vaishnava Acharyas. Only much later with Madhva the Bhagavatam rose in prominence. For Ramanuja the Vishnu Purana was the main Vaishnava scripture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramanuja http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbarka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhvacharya http://www.ramanuja.org/ http://www.dvaita.net/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There is no point in arguing that a materialistic man can be happy. No materialistic creature be he the great Brahm#257; or an insignificant ant can be happy. Everyone tries to make a permanent plan for happiness, but everyone is baffled by the laws of material nature. Therefore the materialistic world is called the darkest region of God's creation. Yet the unhappy materialists can get out of it simply by desiring to get out. Unfortunately they are so foolish that they do not want to escape. Therefore they are compared to the camel who relishes thorny twigs because he likes the taste of the twigs mixed with blood. He does not realize that it is his own blood and that his tongue is being cut by the thorns. Similarly, to the materialist his own blood is as sweet as honey, and although he is always harassed by his own material creations, he does not wish to escape. Teh whole text: http://vedabase.net/sb/1/2/3/en
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Please indicate where I said that there was.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. And yet. And yet guys -- young and old -- still somehow believe that driving the right car will get a guy laid. I had a summer job working for a performance car garage and had to collect and deliver jaguars, porches, ferraris etc. I was astonished at the attention and blatant propositions I would get from girls in their cars at traffic lights. It wasn't often but I was surprised it ahappened at all, I thought women going for the flash car thing was a myth. And I honestly thought that I was glad to be a cyclist who has never owned a car because I wouldn't like to think a girl liked me for my motor. Ugh, shallow. I mean, obviously I'm incredibly handsome [ahem] but I don't get that sort of attention when I'm on my bike, except when I've got my cycling shorts on. I get plenty of attention then, but that's OK because it's me, well a part of me anyway. Guys, you should *hear* the things that women say about guys who drive flashy cars. They seem to have mistaken their gearshift knobs for their penises is the only comment I can think of that is PG-rated enough to post here. I think it's just different values, some do, most don't, luckily.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's are worshipping Bhagavan. The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of imaginary countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It has no connection to what's actually happening in the actual world of human affairs. For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually worship Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin with.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, would you *want* a woman who loved you for your car? If you drive a Ferrari For a Finnish woman, Jenni is rather attractive, although she doesn't have big boobies like e.g. Pamela Anderson. It's hard to believe Kimi Raikkonen could have picked her up(?) without being a top F1-driver. But, more importantly, I think Kimi's yearly income as a Ferrari driver is something like 30+ million bucks. http://www.motorsportinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/kimi- jenny.jpg (Just heard that Kimi's 3D-vision(?) is according to doctors almost supernatural. That prolly explains a lot of his driving skills...)
[FairfieldLife] Pranava Veda
From a friend: I received this this morning from Dr. Jessie Mercay and did not want to wait to send it as it is so profound and full of the most significant potential for our own well being. Dr. Mercay is sponsoring Dr. Sabharathnam to the United States. He is the pandit and scholar who is translating the Pranava Veda. The following is an email exchange that just occurred between them. If you have not started to help sponsor Dr. Sabharathnam and wish to do so you may contact Dr. Mercay directly at HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I especially like this because you can feel directly the ancient and most traditional elements of knowledge and experience very deeply in Dr. Sabharathnam's words. - blaine As I have been reading the verses of Pranava Veda that Dr. Sabarhatanam has been sending I have been observing my inner experience in relationship to the structure and content of the verses. I noticed a pattern that I think you will find interesting. Here is the note I wrote him and the comment he wrote back: Dear Dr. Sabharathnam, Thank you for pv 41-50. It seems that Mayan alternates between very concrete and very abstract ideas. He talks about the Primal lord then talks about construction (architecture/building)... back and forth - Abstract unmanifest then back to concrete manifestation. Shilpi and then Shilpa. Vastu and then Vaastu. This alternation seems to have the effect of taking the mind through Vastureva vaastu in a sense. In other words, we automatically have an internal experience of the unmanifest and the manifest by reading this text. This seems to create a profound inner experience and a form or ordering and purifying of the mind. It is a subtle point but the effect seems profound. It is also an interesting teaching technique. Would you agree with me on this point? Dr. S emailed me back the following: Dear Jessie, Congrats. What you have observed is correct. I am very much happy to observe your exact technique of understanding the verses of the Pranava Veda. Each time I send the translation I would have my own doubt whether this could be easily understandable to you, because of the terse and minute subject matter. Now I have come out of that hesitation and doubt. You understand the exact import of the text in the most accurate way and by such correct understanding you enter the main shrine of the verse to see the inner message face to face. You have given me the fullest confidence to go ahead without hesitation. The whole text is like that. Since Mayan reveals what he has known through deep medidation directly, we cannot expect a systematic presentation as we see in a thesis writing. It is our duty to present what Mayan has told in the Pranava Veda, in an orderly and systematic way. After completing the translation, let us bring out a separate book on Pranava Veda. I wanted to post this so that you will have more insight into the import of this many faceted work. This translation is not a simple task nor is the text just another text. More importantly, I want you to understand that as we read the text, we are taken on a journey to that place where Mayen went when he cognized this work- can you imagine where that place is given the content of Pranava Veda? Our own consciousness becomes cultured during the process. That place our awareness enters into or awakens to is the place longed for by yogis. It is the experience of bhakti or direct resonance with Brahmam. The awakened state. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Guys, would you *want* a woman who loved you for your car? If you drive a Ferrari For a Finnish woman, Jenni is rather attractive, although she doesn't have big boobies like e.g. Pamela Anderson. It's hard to believe Kimi Raikkonen could have picked her up(?) without being a top F1-driver. But, more importantly, I think Kimi's yearly income as a Ferrari driver is something like 30+ million bucks. http://www.motorsportinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/kimi- jenny.jpg (Just heard that Kimi's 3D-vision(?) is according to doctors almost supernatural. That prolly explains a lot of his driving skills...) She's not quite my type, but if she drove a Ferrari Daytona Spyder I'd consider it anyway. Hey, it was *women* I suggested weren't that superficial, not men. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhaagavata-puraaNa, a commentary on Vedaanta-suutra?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet,what he forgets is that not only Shankara did not touch it, not thinking it worth to be commented on, but neither did Ramanuja, nor Nimbarka , that is 2 out of the 5 Vaishnava Acharyas. Only much later with Madhva the Bhagavatam rose in prominence. For Ramanuja the Vishnu Purana was the main Vaishnava scripture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramanuja http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbarka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhvacharya http://www.ramanuja.org/ http://www.dvaita.net/ Oohps, the quote was scrambled, here it is again: http://vedabase.net/sb/1/2/3/ ´Srimad-Bhagavatam is the one unrivaled commentary on Vedanta-sutra. ´Sripada ´Sa´nkaracarya intentionally did not touch it because he knew that the natural commentary would be difficult for him to surpass. He wrote his ´Sariraka-bhasÌ£ya, and his so-called followers deprecated the Bhagavatam as some new presentation. One should not be misled by such propaganda directed against the Bhagavatam by the Mayavada school. From this introductory ´sloka, the beginning student should know that ´Srimad-Bhagavatam is the only transcendental literature meant for those who are paramahamÌsas and completely freed from the material disease called malice. The Mayavadis are envious of the Personality of Godhead despite ´Sripada ´Sa´nkaracarya's admission that NarayanÌ£a, the Personality of Godhead, is above the material creation. The envious Mayavadi cannot have access to the Bhagavatam, but those who are really anxious to get out of this material existence may take shelter of this Bhagavatam because it is uttered by the liberated ´Srila ´Sukadeva Gosvami. It is the transcendental torchlight by which one can see perfectly the transcendental Absolute Truth realized as Brahman, Paramatma and Bhagavan.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits Drowning Deities
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PDF file with photos just uploaded. Link coming in separate post. I thought you might like to see these photos. Probably never been done in North America before. Before the 9 Days of Mother Divine, the Maharishi Vedic City pundits needed to procrure statues of deities in order to perform puja and do yagyas in their traditional manner. By their request, they were taken to the nearest river, which happens to have the malodorous name of the Skunk River. Once there, they ceremoniously asked the blessing of the river goddess and then entered the very cold water with large urns on their shoulders and dipped low and came up with the river water filling their urns. Then they energetically dug wet clay from the river banks, lots of it, and cut dry grasses from the shoreline. When they had collected enough for their needs they returned to their homes in the pundit enclosure. Then they miraculously made these statues, most of them about 5 feet high but Durga about 8 feet high as she was the principal deity in the 9 days rites, out of water, clay and straw. I don't know how they baked them dry. Perhaps in the sun which in October in Iowa is not as hot as in India! After they were dried, they must have applied some kind of sealant agent because they painted them in life like colors and laquered them to make them shiny and dressed them in wigs, real saris and ornaments. However, they did not paint the eyes on the face until after they had done puja to invoke the deities. Very nice :-) Thanks for posting this !
[FairfieldLife] From Judy: Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Ooops, sorry. That's a Porsche, not a Purusha. It's so hard to tell the difference these days, especially when the cost is so similar. And you will fool around dashing out less than sucessfull sarcasms wasting the little left of your life. I wasn't being sarcastic Of course Barry was being sarcastic. snip The part that isn't a joke is that both types of guys -- the guy who buys a Porsche and the guy who buys into Purusha -- are clearly *in need of some- thing* to make their lives seem meaningful. Could be that the same is true of people who leave their native country and take up residence in a country in Europe, only to leave *that* country after a couple of years and move to another one, all the while bragging about their expatriate status and how much better life is where they are now (as they move restlessly from place to place). snip And I'm sorry, but for someone who wouldn't be allowed within half a mile of an official TM butt-bouncing dome As Barry knows, according to Nabby, he's in good standing with the TMO. And Barry, of course, knows nothing to the contrary. to still be waving his former Purusha status around like it was some kinda badge of honor kinda has the same effect. As Barry knows, Nabby wasn't waving it around, he was asked specifically about it by Marek. Like others here, Nablus, I'm happy that you seem to be happy with your chosen lifestyle, and that you have room in it for friends who are no longer On The Program. That's cool. But hanging on to the glory of a former reclusive lifestyle that wasn't terribly glorious to begin with strikes me as far more of a waste of life than what I do with mine. Says Barry, preaching to others (again) about what they should be doing with their lives (and deliberately misstating what they *are* doing with their lives). Normal, everyday life isn't *enough* for them, claims Barry. I'd suggest that, beyond traipsing from one country to another to another, normal, everyday *reality* isn't enough for Barry. He has to constantly embellish and embroider it with fantasies dreamed up for the express purpose of putting other people down and exalting himself. And as to hanging onto the glory of a former lifestyle, I do believe it was Barry who just posted a list of all the famous groups he used to set up shows for and boasted about how he got to party down with those bands. Not even his own glory, but what he borrowed from the truly glorious. Correct, couldn't have written it better myself ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pranava Veda
Ah yes, the Pranava Veda of Mamuni Mayan. It's said to be the original Veda, the Aryan version (i.e. Rig Ved, et al) being a corrupted, later version. Whereas Rig Ved is only about 3000 y.o., the original, in Tamil, goes back (allegedly) 10,000 years. The Pranava Ved, unlike it's Aryan counterpart, can be used by any caste, not just the Brahmins. I heard someone was doing a translation. Is it published in English yet? On Nov 1, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From a friend: I received this this morning from Dr. Jessie Mercay and did not want to wait to send it as it is so profound and full of the most significant potential for our own well being. Dr. Mercay is sponsoring Dr. Sabharathnam to the United States. He is the pandit and scholar who is translating the Pranava Veda. The following is an email exchange that just occurred between them. If you have not started to help sponsor Dr. Sabharathnam and wish to do so you may contact Dr. Mercay directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I especially like this because you can feel directly the ancient and most traditional elements of knowledge and experience very deeply in Dr. Sabharathnam's words. - blaine As I have been reading the verses of Pranava Veda that Dr. Sabarhatanam has been sending I have been observing my inner experience in relationship to the structure and content of the verses. I noticed a pattern that I think you will find interesting. Here is the note I wrote him and the comment he wrote back: Dear Dr. Sabharathnam, Thank you for pv 41-50. It seems that Mayan alternates between very concrete and very abstract ideas. He talks about the Primal lord then talks about construction (architecture/building)... back and forth - Abstract unmanifest then back to concrete manifestation. Shilpi and then Shilpa. Vastu and then Vaastu. This alternation seems to have the effect of taking the mind through Vastureva vaastu in a sense. In other words, we automatically have an internal experience of the unmanifest and the manifest by reading this text. This seems to create a profound inner experience and a form or ordering and purifying of the mind. It is a subtle point but the effect seems profound. It is also an interesting teaching technique. Would you agree with me on this point? Dr. S emailed me back the following: Dear Jessie, Congrats. What you have observed is correct. I am very much happy to observe your exact technique of understanding the verses of the Pranava Veda. Each time I send the translation I would have my own doubt whether this could be easily understandable to you, because of the terse and minute subject matter. Now I have come out of that hesitation and doubt. You understand the exact import of the text in the most accurate way and by such correct understanding you enter the main shrine of the verse to see the inner message face to face. You have given me the fullest confidence to go ahead without hesitation. The whole text is like that. Since Mayan reveals what he has known through deep medidation directly, we cannot expect a systematic presentation as we see in a thesis writing. It is our duty to present what Mayan has told in the Pranava Veda, in an orderly and systematic way. After completing the translation, let us bring out a separate book on Pranava Veda. I wanted to post this so that you will have more insight into the import of this many faceted work. This translation is not a simple task nor is the text just another text. More importantly, I want you to understand that as we read the text, we are taken on a journey to that place where Mayen went when he cognized this work- can you imagine where that place is given the content of Pranava Veda? Our own consciousness becomes cultured during the process. That place our awareness enters into or awakens to is the place longed for by yogis. It is the experience of bhakti or direct resonance with Brahmam. The awakened state. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] About love -- and the evil of candy. I could have had a V8
Last night we gave out candy to 93 kids -- had to make an emergency run to get more goodies than we'd bought, cuz we couldn't resist giving more to each child than we'd planned. My love spruced up the joint with a snowman/topiary made out of pumpkins, sticks, and dried leaves, oh she had a ball splashing autumn around our rooms and on our porch. This woman bursts into an immediate run if anything festive comes over the horizon. Yet she spent three hours yesterday ironing her son-in-laws shirts to help out her daughter who's tauted by tots and a kickass social life. Nothing festive there it would seem, but later she confessed to making it a meditation with love itself moving the iron back and forth. This woman was born to be a nun, except, you know, for the sexy parts that have me atwitter on command. Consciousness ironing. Gotta love it. I wanted to at least blurbify about her here since she was besmirched by the effigy that Barry chose to construct. Good writing from Barry and Curtis in their jibes at me, but my woman is as sacred as prana in most respects, and their cajolery has unconscionably targeted her instead of me. Shame on you boys. No words can capture her soul -- or -- that a world-class psychic once chided me when I asked him if I was abusing her because of my tendency to roil and said, Edg, do you really think she's doing ANYTHING she doesn't want to do? Have you ever seen her dilute her power by any false obeisance to you? Don't worry about her. Worry about the beating your ego is going to take from this zen hearted lover. She can knock me across the room with but a glance -- like a mere flick of Hanauman's tail -- nothing to her, but devastation to many of my trips. She bats aside my biggest haughts and smarms. What a blessing, eh? Still trying to figure out if she's, you know, my profit for 29 years of meditation. The title of this post means that I thought of a wonderful concept of what to give to kiddies on Halloween NEXT YEAR instead of candy -- which we all know may be only a titch less lethal than plutonium. Here's the idea: Take a four foot long piece of three inch wide transparent packing tape, and place on the sticky side all the pennies, nickels, and dimes in all the loose change baskets in your house. Spread them out a bit, say, about 25 cents worth every six inches of tape. Then cover them up with a second strip of tape. Voila! Now, when the kiddies come next year -- yeah I couldda done it this year if only I'd had the V8esque thought -- I'll show the little monsters and cops and angels and princesses and darths and spideys and firemen and ninja turtles a money strip. I'll wave it like a lottery win in their faces. Then for each child I'll cut a section, about a quarter's worth, into each proffered bag. Hey, it's filthy lucre, no doubt, but better than candy with industrial chemicals allowed by the GRAS list. I love this idea. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's are worshipping Bhagavan. The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of imaginary countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It has no connection to what's actually happening in the actual world of human affairs. For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually worship Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin with. But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the fact that the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. Who's we? It is people that only relate to the little things they can see and hear and touch etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in ! So you go off into a pretend world? Maybe you could share with us how that has anything at all to do with improving the plight this planet is in.
[FairfieldLife] Re: About love -- and the evil of candy. I could have had a V8
Good writing from Barry and Curtis in their jibes at me, but my woman is as sacred as prana inmost respects, and their cajolery has unconscionably targeted her instead of me. Shame on you boys. WTF? Targeting someone we didn't know existed huh? I think our work may be done here Turq, Edg is now officially out of his mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night we gave out candy to 93 kids -- had to make an emergency run to get more goodies than we'd bought, cuz we couldn't resist giving more to each child than we'd planned. My love spruced up the joint with a snowman/topiary made out of pumpkins, sticks, and dried leaves, oh she had a ball splashing autumn around our rooms and on our porch. This woman bursts into an immediate run if anything festive comes over the horizon. Yet she spent three hours yesterday ironing her son-in-laws shirts to help out her daughter who's tauted by tots and a kickass social life. Nothing festive there it would seem, but later she confessed to making it a meditation with love itself moving the iron back and forth. This woman was born to be a nun, except, you know, for the sexy parts that have me atwitter on command. Consciousness ironing. Gotta love it. I wanted to at least blurbify about her here since she was besmirched by the effigy that Barry chose to construct. Good writing from Barry and Curtis in their jibes at me, but my woman is as sacred as prana in most respects, and their cajolery has unconscionably targeted her instead of me. Shame on you boys. No words can capture her soul -- or -- that a world-class psychic once chided me when I asked him if I was abusing her because of my tendency to roil and said, Edg, do you really think she's doing ANYTHING she doesn't want to do? Have you ever seen her dilute her power by any false obeisance to you? Don't worry about her. Worry about the beating your ego is going to take from this zen hearted lover. She can knock me across the room with but a glance -- like a mere flick of Hanauman's tail -- nothing to her, but devastation to many of my trips. She bats aside my biggest haughts and smarms. What a blessing, eh? Still trying to figure out if she's, you know, my profit for 29 years of meditation. The title of this post means that I thought of a wonderful concept of what to give to kiddies on Halloween NEXT YEAR instead of candy -- which we all know may be only a titch less lethal than plutonium. Here's the idea: Take a four foot long piece of three inch wide transparent packing tape, and place on the sticky side all the pennies, nickels, and dimes in all the loose change baskets in your house. Spread them out a bit, say, about 25 cents worth every six inches of tape. Then cover them up with a second strip of tape. Voila! Now, when the kiddies come next year -- yeah I couldda done it this year if only I'd had the V8esque thought -- I'll show the little monsters and cops and angels and princesses and darths and spideys and firemen and ninja turtles a money strip. I'll wave it like a lottery win in their faces. Then for each child I'll cut a section, about a quarter's worth, into each proffered bag. Hey, it's filthy lucre, no doubt, but better than candy with industrial chemicals allowed by the GRAS list. I love this idea. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: About love -- and the evil of candy. I could have had a V8
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good writing from Barry and Curtis in their jibes at me, but my woman is as sacred as prana inmost respects, and their cajolery has unconscionably targeted her instead of me. Shame on you boys. WTF? Targeting someone we didn't know existed huh? I think our work may be done here Turq, Edg is now officially out of his mind. He might be talking about Judy. They're sharing an email account now, so why not bodily fluids?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Now, what's the american word for my reaction to this put down from you Jim ? Oh yes; rats... :-) I wasn't putting you down-- more replying in kind to John's sarcasm. I answered your post directly as you can see. It was a joke :-) rats!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Brahmanada wouldn't even be accessible to us if not for Maharishi, so its impossible to separate the two-- they are continuously working in tandem; one heart and one goal. This notion that Guru Dev has somehow spurned Maharishi or that Maharishi is lost in the sauce is a silly one from my point of view. I respect others' points of view on this though-- seriously. They share the same breath as I see it. Thanks for that insight-- makes sense intuitively.
[FairfieldLife] New Movies about the Iraq War
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's are worshipping Bhagavan. The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of imaginary countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It has no connection to what's actually happening in the actual world of human affairs. For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually worship Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin with. But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the fact that the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. It is people that only relate to the little things they can see and hear and touch etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in !
RE: [FairfieldLife] Pranava Veda
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pranava Veda Ah yes, the Pranava Veda of Mamuni Mayan. It's said to be the original Veda, the Aryan version (i.e. Rig Ved, et al) being a corrupted, later version. Whereas Rig Ved is only about 3000 y.o., the original, in Tamil, goes back (allegedly) 10,000 years. The Pranava Ved, unlike it's Aryan counterpart, can be used by any caste, not just the Brahmins. I heard someone was doing a translation. Is it published in English yet? I’ll ask my friend No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's are worshipping Bhagavan. The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of imaginary countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It has no connection to what's actually happening in the actual world of human affairs. For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually worship Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin with. But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the fact that the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. It is people that only relate to the little things they can see and hear and touch etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in ! For what its worth, I recall Maharishi referring to material life as the lowest form of life. Not as a value judgement, but relative to a sliding scale of evolution.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Movies about the Iraq War
I saw In the Valley of Elah last night as my Halloween escape movie. Excellent film and great performances by Tommy Lee Jones and Charlize Theron. I saw Rendition last week and thought it was quite good too. A documentary on Iraq that's just been released on DVD No End In Site is well worth a watch: http://www.noendinsightmovie.com/ It documents very well how the Bush administration bungled things (though I think they really meant too. Just read Naomi Klein's Baghdad Year Zero. Rick Archer wrote: Title Rotten Tomatoes Page Tomatometer Rating Grace is Gone HYPERLINK http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/grace_is_gone/http://www.rottentomatoes.co m/m/grace_is_gone/ 78% In the Valley of Elah HYPERLINK http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/in_the_valley_of_elah/http://www.rottentom atoes.com/m/in_the_valley_of_elah/ 68% Rendition HYPERLINK http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rendition/http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ rendition/ 44% The Kingdom HYPERLINK http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_kingdom/http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ m/the_kingdom/ 52% Lions for Lambs HYPERLINK http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lions_for_lambs/http://www.rottentomatoes. com/m/lions_for_lambs/ 43% Redacted HYPERLINK http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lions_for_lambs/http://www.rottentomatoes. com/m/lions_for_lambs/ 54% Rick Archer President SearchSummit HYPERLINK http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=1108+S.+B+St.csz=Fairfield% 2C+IA+52556-3805country=us \n1108 S. B St. Fairfield, IA 52556-3805 HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: fax: Skype ID: HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signatureTo=641-472-9336Email=r [EMAIL PROTECTED] \n641-472-9336 914-470-9336 Rick_Archer HYPERLINK https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=25769982909v0=356483k0=1251699766v1=35648 4k1=804482755src=client_sig_212_1_card_joininvite=1 \nAlways have my latest info HYPERLINK http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig; \nWant a signature like this? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is America Ready For A FLILF?
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who missed this bit on John Stewart. Special heads up to New and Turq. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/10/30/is-america-ready-for-a-flilf/ We're all going to a special Hell designed by Edg. I'm taking advantage of the Spanish holiday by catch- ing up on several episodes of Californication and you're posting stuff like this. We're all gonna fry. :-) This is one funny bit. Thanks, and pass the ice cubes... I take it you are enjoying Californication. The season finale was a real hoot but of course the show was a real hoot overall. It's interesting to note what the show is really about too. Something one wouldn't expect from the title. This season of Weeds has been great too. My favorite series overall though is Brotherhood which is more like an independent film. Of course this season of Dexter is fun too. BTW, did you take in any of the Independent Film Academy thing last month or at least it's spillover? http://www.independentfilmacademy.com/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Pranava Veda
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pranava Veda Ah yes, the Pranava Veda of Mamuni Mayan. It's said to be the original Veda, the Aryan version (i.e. Rig Ved, et al) being a corrupted, later version. Whereas Rig Ved is only about 3000 y.o., the original, in Tamil, goes back (allegedly) 10,000 years. The Pranava Ved, unlike it's Aryan counterpart, can be used by any caste, not just the Brahmins. I heard someone was doing a translation. Is it published in English yet? My friend’s response: it is being translated as we speak and will be published in english when done. financial support for the project in the form of sponsorship for the translator is always appreciated. he is a highly respected pandit and academic from tamil nadu with working knowledge of the creation of temple idols, temple architecture and agamas, or rituals. he is the one the temples consult in any dispute involving ritual worship. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.16/1102 - Release Date: 10/31/2007 4:38 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: new rajas today
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: What I get from this is that some can take MMY's teaching and absorb it in simplicity, while others are destined to get caught in the numerous traps that the depth of the teaching holds. Doesn't mean that the trapped ones are doing anything wrong or have been misguided-- they just may not find their liberation in this lifetime is all. No tragedy there at all. Lurk: Jimmy, do ya hear yourself? Yes...How are you interpreting what I wrote, please?
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
In general, I have found that women are charmingly, unalterably clueless about cars. In this town, however, I am reliably informed that the best way to get between a lady's legs is to drive a Prius or some other ugly hybrid, which demonstrates to the lady that you are Deeply Concerned About The Environment. That appears for some reason to impress them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. And yet. And yet guys -- young and old -- still somehow believe that driving the right car will get a guy laid. Now isn't that one the biggest *disconnects* between the sexes, one of the grandest Mars- Venus juxtapositions you've ever heard? Guys, you should *hear* the things that women say about guys who drive flashy cars. They seem to have mistaken their gearshift knobs for their penises is the only comment I can think of that is PG-rated enough to post here. Women, please step up and be counted on this issue. I know what the women I know think on this issue, but what do you think? Here's a metaphor to help you out. If you were in L.A., single and unattached, and you saw David Duchovny drive up in an old, beat-up Porsche that hasn't been washed in months, and he invited you up to his place for a quickie, would any of the thoughts going through your head be along the lines of, Wow...I should say Yes because he has a nice car? Guys, would you *want* a woman who loved you for your car? If you drive a Ferrari and that's why she's with you, think about what it costs you to pay for the *maintenance* on that Ferrari every month and multiply it by ten to figure out the hit she's going to take out of your wallet. Let's put this male urban legend to rest once and for all. In my life, I've driven TR4s and VW Vanagons and Lexus two-seaters and Saab 96s and 4X4s and currently an old Peugeot 306 diesel, and not *one* of these cars ever seemed to have anything to do with how often I got laid -- no matter what my buddies told me back in high school.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@
wrote:
There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's
are
worshipping Bhagavan.
The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of
imaginary
countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It has no
connection to what's actually happening in the actual world of
human
affairs.
For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually worship
Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin with.
But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the fact
that
the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. It is
people
that only relate to the little things they can see and hear and
touch
etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in !
For what its worth, I recall Maharishi referring to material life as
the lowest form of life. Not as a value judgement, but relative to a
sliding scale of evolution.
Interesting. Guru Dev on the other hand claimed that a life in this
world is preferable a life in the God worlds.
Divine birth is longed for by those wishing for a share of the
celestial, to be acquired by people who make specific religious
sacrifices and works relating to the divine. In devaloka (heaven) the
abundance of things to be experienced causes the minds of devataa{}oM
(gods) to remain wandering endlessly, hence they do not make efforts
to do purushhartha (work for fulfilment of life). Therefore birth as a
human is said to be preferable; since here man can do purushhaartha
and so can be in the presence of parabrahma (the Supreme Soul)
~~ Guru Dev
And I recall Maharishi having said just about the same thing Guru Dev
said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is America Ready For A FLILF?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it you are enjoying Californication. I am enjoying it, thanks. And thanks for (I think) the original recommendation. Edg would loathe it. :-) Really. If the Mia plot thread didn't do him in, the idea of someone getting away with the things Hank gets away with would have him railing like Job at God for letting the team down. It's surprisingly good writing from time to time, and some really poignant moments. Good editing, too. One of my favorite moments was at the end of episode 5. The redhead has just broken up with Hank and his daughter is heartbroken because the guitar teacher she has a crush on is dating her soon-to-be stepsister, and they're walking along the Venice canal together, talking about it all. Hank first tries to be fatherly, and of some use, by quoting Keats. The daughter busts him on it, and so instead they walk off down the street together, and the soundtrack segues perfectly from him quoting: If you see her say hello She might be in Tangier She left here last early spring Is living there I hear to Dylan singing the rest of the verse: Say for me that I'm all right Though things get kind of slow She might think that I've forgotten her Don't tell her it isn't so Very nice. The season finale was a real hoot but of course the show was a real hoot overall. I haven't gotten that far yet. Did they really air all 12 episodes, by the way? I get conflicting information about this from the IMDB. It's interesting to note what the show is really about too. Something one wouldn't expect from the title. Exactly. It's about love and family values and regaining something one has lost. David Duchovny is really pretty good in it, and the rest of the cast are no slouches, either. This season of Weeds has been great too. Saw a few episodes of that, didn't follow it for some reason. My favorite series overall though is Brotherhood which is more like an independent film. Of course this season of Dexter is fun too. Don't know the former, but have been following the latter, of course. BTW, did you take in any of the Independent Film Academy thing last month or at least it's spillover? http://www.independentfilmacademy.com/ I didn't get to see much of the film festival, actually. Most of the best screenings had been sold out for weeks before I remembered to check into tickets.
Re: [FairfieldLife] An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
TurquoiseB wrote: For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. I had a woman friend who owned a Porsche Carrera which was her status symbol but she never took care of it. Her brother came to town to visit and screamed at her that her tires were bald. The transmission had problems so she wound up poking along the freeway at about 50 mph and getting flipped off by passersby (here in California 80mph is driving with the flow of traffic). A girl friend of mine had a stepfather who was a veterinarian with two Masserati's in the garage both in a state of disassembly. I learned very early on that owning a sports car was very expensive. Another millionaire friend when asked why he didn't drive a sports car (he is a car freak) said you might as well put a sign on it labeled 'give me a ticket'. My nephew had a rare 911 Porsche (no Judy it is not a conspiracy theory) of which only 800 were made and it definitely was a status symbol for him. He wound up having to sell it for a down payment on a house.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's are worshipping Bhagavan. The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of imaginary countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It has no connection to what's actually happening in the actual world of human affairs. For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually worship Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin with. But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the fact that the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. Who's we? It is people that only relate to the little things they can see and hear and touch etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in ! So you go off into a pretend world? Maybe you could share with us how that has anything at all to do with improving the plight this planet is in. Maharishi has established a detailed yet pulsating Ideal Society on the level of consciousness, the custodians being transcendentalists. It might be a pretend world to you but very much alive, real and vibrant to those open to the transcendent field of life. Those who are not open to this field, what can the Vedas do for him ? The Rajas are only the other forms representing something you perhaps detest because of your tamasic tendency. I'm not saying you are tamasic by nature, only that you seem to be. And tamas is basically very boring. That which you can see and touch has also been concieved, thought of before it came into being. Likewise an Ideal Society had to be structured first on the level of consciousness before it slowly could take a form. First Rishi, then Devata, then Chandas. Thats what I really like about the americans, they don't sit around thinking about things forever like us; they act quickly. Just see how much they have materialized of Maharishis ideas in such a short time: Domes, Peace Palaces, Clinics and Towers of Invincebility. And where is the applied knowledge of the Vedas like Ayurveda and Stapahtyaveda most accepted in the western world ? Without any doubt in the USA. You fellows have a lot to be proud of. The Sattwa Maharishi with the grace of Guru Dev has brought into this world is not even possible for me to describe, and I do not pretend I see more than a tiny little fraction of it. On a good day :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is America Ready For A FLILF?
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it you are enjoying Californication. I am enjoying it, thanks. And thanks for (I think) the original recommendation. Edg would loathe it. :-) Yes I was the one that recommended it. I thought you would relate to Hank. The season finale was a real hoot but of course the show was a real hoot overall. I haven't gotten that far yet. Did they really air all 12 episodes, by the way? I get conflicting information about this from the IMDB. Yes they showed all 12 episodes. IMDB has the dates for all 12. My favorite series overall though is Brotherhood which is more like an independent film. Of course this season of Dexter is fun too. Don't know the former, but have been following the latter, of course. Brotherhood is another Showtime series that follows Dexter in their schedule. It has been called an Irish Sopranos. It is about two brothers one who is a Rhode Island state representative and the other a gangster. And it is actually shot in Rhode Island not Vancouver standing in. The writing, acting, directing is excellent. It doesn't depend on devices to keep you hooked as the story itself is intriguing enough to do that. http://imdb.com/title/tt0457229/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement- Raja's are worshipping Bhagavan. The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of imaginary countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It has no connection to what's actually happening in the actual world of human affairs. For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually worship Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin with. But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the fact that the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. Who's we? It is people that only relate to the little things they can see and hear and touch etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in ! So you go off into a pretend world? Maybe you could share with us how that has anything at all to do with improving the plight this planet is in. Maharishi has established a detailed yet pulsating Ideal Society on the level of consciousness, the custodians being transcendentalists. It might be a pretend world to you but very much alive, real and vibrant to those open to the transcendent field of life. Those who are not open to this field, what can the Vedas do for him ? The Rajas are only the other forms representing something you perhaps detest because of your tamasic tendency. I'm not saying you are tamasic by nature, only that you seem to be. And tamas is basically very boring. That which you can see and touch has also been concieved, thought of before it came into being. Likewise an Ideal Society had to be structured first on the level of consciousness before it slowly could take a form. First Rishi, then Devata, then Chandas. Thats what I really like about the americans, they don't sit around thinking about things forever like us; they act quickly. Just see how much they have materialized of Maharishis ideas in such a short time: Domes, Peace Palaces, Clinics and Towers of Invincebility. And where is the applied knowledge of the Vedas like Ayurveda and Stapahtyaveda most accepted in the western world ? Without any doubt in the USA. You fellows have a lot to be proud of. The Sattwa Maharishi with the grace of Guru Dev has brought into this world is not even possible for me to describe, and I do not pretend I see more than a tiny little fraction of it. On a good day :-) couldn't have said it better myself-- absolutely correct in terms of the satva(sp?) infused into the world. Would be a completely dark and deadly place otherwise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69
stephen4359@
wrote:
There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement-
Raja's
are
worshipping Bhagavan.
The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of
imaginary
countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It
has no
connection to what's actually happening in the actual world
of
human
affairs.
For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually
worship
Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin
with.
But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the
fact
that
the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. It
is
people
that only relate to the little things they can see and hear
and
touch
etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in !
For what its worth, I recall Maharishi referring to material
life as
the lowest form of life. Not as a value judgement, but relative
to a
sliding scale of evolution.
Interesting. Guru Dev on the other hand claimed that a life in this
world is preferable a life in the God worlds.
Divine birth is longed for by those wishing for a share of the
celestial, to be acquired by people who make specific religious
sacrifices and works relating to the divine. In devaloka (heaven)
the
abundance of things to be experienced causes the minds of devataa{}
oM
(gods) to remain wandering endlessly, hence they do not make
efforts
to do purushhartha (work for fulfilment of life). Therefore birth
as a
human is said to be preferable; since here man can do purushhaartha
and so can be in the presence of parabrahma (the Supreme Soul)
~~ Guru Dev
And I recall Maharishi having said just about the same thing Guru
Dev
said.
I agree that all levels of life, from the base material, to the
divine transcendent are all available right here in human form.
Depends on the level of consciousness how much is accessible.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tappity tap, tap. Tippity, tappity, sch-boom bam BOP! ...and back to you!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: [snip] So you go off into a pretend world? Maybe you could share with us how that has anything at all to do with improving the plight this planet is in. Maharishi has established a detailed yet pulsating Ideal Society on the level of consciousness, the custodians being transcendentalists. Pure hokum with ZERO objective outer substance that has any connection whatsoever to *actual* human affairs on this planet. It might be a pretend world to you but very much alive, real and vibrant to those open to the transcendent field of life. Schizophrenics and people on hallucinogenics make the same kinds of claims. Those who are not open to this field, what can the Vedas do for him ? I'm plenty open to the subjective and objective Divinity I *experience* as a result of my practice of TM. But it certainly doesn't include the bullshit of Maharishi's fake kings and fake palaces and useless towers of invincibility that represent fake kingdoms and fake countries. That insanity has nothing at all to do with either the Divinity I experience with TM and am familiar with in my experience of Guru Dev [and recently Lakshmi], *or* rational factual objective reality. I hope, for your sake that you're very careful with whom you share your imaginary world. The Rajas are only the other forms representing something you perhaps detest because of your tamasic tendency. I have no reason to detest Maharishi's phony Rajas any more than I have a reason to detest the Easter Bunny. I'm not saying you are tamasic by nature, only that you seem to be. And tamas is basically very boring. It appears that factual objective reality is boring to you so you have to call it tamasic. That which you can see and touch has also been concieved, thought of before it came into being. Likewise an Ideal Society had to be structured first on the level of consciousness before it slowly could take a form. First Rishi, then Devata, then Chandas. TMOspeak. But Oh, of course! That might explain why Maharishi's TMO is one of the most embarrassingly inept run organizations I've ever encountered and that most of Maharishi's bizarre schemes continue to fail, over and over again. But he sure rakes in the cash, eh? I recall about three or four years ago he made a pitch for $100 million to pay for loads of pundits to show up somewhere. He set up an Enlightenment Course where 100 people could become 'enlightened' if those 100 people paid a million dollars each. Well, lo and behold, Maharishi held the course and got the $100 million - BUT - guess what. There weren't $100 million dollars worth of pundits that showed up *anywhere* . Maybe he does so well at getting cash because, as PT Barnum used to say, There's a sucker born every minute. Thats what I really like about the americans, they don't sit around thinking about things forever like us; they act quickly. Just see how much they have materialized of Maharishis ideas in such a short time: Domes, Peace Palaces, Clinics and Towers of Invincebility. And where is the applied knowledge of the Vedas like Ayurveda and Stapahtyaveda most accepted in the western world ? Without any doubt in the USA. You fellows have a lot to be proud of. The extent to which any significant number of human beings actually buys any of that bullshit, is again, embarrassingly but very understandably, minuscule. The Sattwa Maharishi with the grace of Guru Dev has brought into this world is not even possible for me to describe, and I do not pretend I see more than a tiny little fraction of it. On a good day :-) Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Tappity tap, tap. Tippity, tappity, sch-boom bam BOP! ...and back to you! Yeah. That's your tap dance in lieu of...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69
stephen4359@
wrote:
There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement-
Raja's
are
worshipping Bhagavan.
The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony Rajas of
imaginary
countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world. It
has no
connection to what's actually happening in the actual world
of
human
affairs.
For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually
worship
Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to begin
with.
But my dear friend; I thought we had already established the
fact
that
the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous. It
is
people
that only relate to the little things they can see and hear
and
touch
etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in !
For what its worth, I recall Maharishi referring to material
life as
the lowest form of life. Not as a value judgement, but relative
to a
sliding scale of evolution.
Interesting. Guru Dev on the other hand claimed that a life in this
world is preferable a life in the God worlds.
Divine birth is longed for by those wishing for a share of the
celestial, to be acquired by people who make specific religious
sacrifices and works relating to the divine. In devaloka (heaven)
the
abundance of things to be experienced causes the minds of devataa{}
oM
(gods) to remain wandering endlessly, hence they do not make
efforts
to do purushhartha (work for fulfilment of life). Therefore birth
as a
human is said to be preferable; since here man can do purushhaartha
and so can be in the presence of parabrahma (the Supreme Soul)
~~ Guru Dev
And I recall Maharishi having said just about the same thing Guru
Dev
said.
I agree that all levels of life, from the base material, to the
divine transcendent are all available right here in human form.
Depends on the level of consciousness how much is accessible.
The point is that this world is preferable as a place to grow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm plenty open to the subjective and objective Divinity I *experience* as a result of my practice of TM. But it certainly doesn't include the bullshit of Maharishi's fake kings and fake palaces and useless towers of invincibility that represent fake kingdoms and fake countries. That insanity has nothing at all to do with either the Divinity I experience with TM and am familiar with in my experience of Guru Dev [and recently Lakshmi], *or* rational factual objective reality. Schizophrenics and people on hallucinogenics make the same kinds of claims.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement. Do you really think that any of who you call sane nutcases gives a shit that Maharishi does or doesn't miss them? If you face reality, you'll see that Maharishi doesn't miss anybody - but he also doesn't miss turning a buck. Do *you* actually believe that Maharishi would miss you if you disappeared off the planet? You've been in isolation too long, fella.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why become a Raja? Another reason?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Tappity tap, tap. Tippity, tappity, sch-boom bam BOP! ...and back to you! Yeah. That's your tap dance in lieu of... of? In following your obsession to prove me wrong of something, I've forgotten completely what it is you are/were trying to prove me wrong of, or what reply you are expecting of me-- so I'll continue to riff, thank you: tappity tap tap tappity tap tap tap
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex
do.rflex@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69
stephen4359@
wrote:
There is no worshipping Rajas in Maharishi's movement-
Raja's
are
worshipping Bhagavan.
The Rajas [kings] in Maharishi's movement are phony
Rajas of
imaginary
countries. It's all part of Maharishi's pretend world.
It
has no
connection to what's actually happening in the actual
world
of
human
affairs.
For you to fuss about whether the phony Rajas actually
worship
Bhagavan is ludicrous in light of their phoniness to
begin
with.
But my dear friend; I thought we had already established
the
fact
that
the actual world is not only boring but even dangerous.
It
is
people
that only relate to the little things they can see and
hear
and
touch
etc that are responsible for the plight this planet is in !
For what its worth, I recall Maharishi referring to material
life as
the lowest form of life. Not as a value judgement, but
relative
to a
sliding scale of evolution.
Interesting. Guru Dev on the other hand claimed that a life in
this
world is preferable a life in the God worlds.
Divine birth is longed for by those wishing for a share of the
celestial, to be acquired by people who make specific religious
sacrifices and works relating to the divine. In devaloka
(heaven)
the
abundance of things to be experienced causes the minds of
devataa{}
oM
(gods) to remain wandering endlessly, hence they do not make
efforts
to do purushhartha (work for fulfilment of life). Therefore
birth
as a
human is said to be preferable; since here man can do
purushhaartha
and so can be in the presence of parabrahma (the Supreme Soul)
~~ Guru Dev
And I recall Maharishi having said just about the same thing
Guru
Dev
said.
I agree that all levels of life, from the base material, to the
divine transcendent are all available right here in human form.
Depends on the level of consciousness how much is accessible.
The point is that this world is preferable as a place to grow.
Point, John!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement. Do you really think that any of who you call sane nutcases gives a shit that Maharishi does or doesn't miss them? If you face reality, you'll see that Maharishi doesn't miss anybody - but he also doesn't miss turning a buck. Do *you* actually believe that Maharishi would miss you if you disappeared off the planet? You've been in isolation too long, fella. John, look at it this way-- Maharishi will depart soon, and then you won't have to be so pissed off at him and his crazy organization full of loonies. Fair enough? Is it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement. Let's hear it for consensus sanity! NOT.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I'm plenty open to the subjective and objective Divinity I *experience* as a result of my practice of TM. But it certainly doesn't include the bullshit of Maharishi's fake kings and fake palaces and useless towers of invincibility that represent fake kingdoms and fake countries. That insanity has nothing at all to do with either the Divinity I experience with TM and am familiar with in my experience of Guru Dev [and recently Lakshmi], *or* rational factual objective reality. Schizophrenics and people on hallucinogenics make the same kinds of claims. Heh... I don't attempt to objectify my subtle perceptions into fake outer constructs, like special hats for pretend occasions, fake titles, fake kingdoms, fake countries etc... Anything subtle I *do* experience *already* has its *own* existence and is perceived in its *own* subtle state. Temporary life in *this world* has its own, as Guru Dev clearly indicated, preferable, useful and meaningful purpose - at the level it is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement. Do you really think that any of who you call sane nutcases gives a shit that Maharishi does or doesn't miss them? If you face reality, you'll see that Maharishi doesn't miss anybody - but he also doesn't miss turning a buck. Do *you* actually believe that Maharishi would miss you if you disappeared off the planet? You've been in isolation too long, fella. Does enlightened people miss anything ? I don't know. What I do know is that he, as other Masters value loyalty. It's basic and important for reasons you obviously do not want to know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement. Do you really think that any of who you call sane nutcases gives a shit that Maharishi does or doesn't miss them? If you face reality, you'll see that Maharishi doesn't miss anybody - but he also doesn't miss turning a buck. Do *you* actually believe that Maharishi would miss you if you disappeared off the planet? You've been in isolation too long, fella. Does enlightened people miss anything ? I don't know. Then why did you say he doesn't miss sane nutcases if you don't really know. Are you just being an asshole? What I do know is that he, as other Masters value loyalty. It's basic and important for reasons you obviously do not want to know. Sure, I'd love to know why I should be loyal to a man I no longer trust.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement. Do you really think that any of who you call sane nutcases gives a shit that Maharishi does or doesn't miss them? If you face reality, you'll see that Maharishi doesn't miss anybody - but he also doesn't miss turning a buck. Do *you* actually believe that Maharishi would miss you if you disappeared off the planet? You've been in isolation too long, fella. John, look at it this way-- Maharishi will depart soon, and then you won't have to be so pissed off at him and his crazy organization full of loonies. Fair enough? Is it? Your assumptions are offensive - and revealing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Too bad it's all in your mind. -An astonishing load of horse pucky! My God, man, you really *do* live in an imaginary world. Maharishi has created insane people who think it's OK to be insane. No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement. Let's hear it for consensus sanity! NOT. Childish insults from one of Maharishi's self-proclaimed Brahman Consciousness attainers? It appears that people with Brahman consciousness aren't necessarily mature, civil human beings. They can be totally full of shit. And Brahman Consciousness would certainly have lost its appeal in my eyes, if I didn't see that Jim is a fraud. No surprise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I'm plenty open to the subjective and objective Divinity I *experience* as a result of my practice of TM. But it certainly doesn't include the bullshit of Maharishi's fake kings and fake palaces and useless towers of invincibility that represent fake kingdoms and fake countries. That insanity has nothing at all to do with either the Divinity I experience with TM and am familiar with in my experience of Guru Dev [and recently Lakshmi], *or* rational factual objective reality. Schizophrenics and people on hallucinogenics make the same kinds of claims. Heh... I don't attempt to objectify my subtle perceptions into fake outer constructs, like special hats for pretend occasions, fake titles, fake kingdoms, fake countries etc... Anything subtle I *do* experience *already* has its *own* existence and is perceived in its *own* subtle state. Temporary life in *this world* has its own, as Guru Dev clearly indicated, preferable, useful and meaningful purpose - at the level it is. As for all that fake stuff, and all kidding aside for a sec-- I think what Maharishi is doing in many of these instances is creating on earth to the extent that the low earth consciousness allows him to, are ideal representations of organizations, concepts, divine forms, etc. to more solidly bring into earth's atmosphere the archetypes of human perfection. When seen through the lens of contemporary society, which we can all agree leaves a tremendous amount to be desired anyway, such things look fake, clownish, and bizarre. However, it is actually quite a powerful and fearless thing for Maharishi to be doing, no matter what the justification of his followers may be to themselves for their involvement in this pageant of His. So be fascinated by it, or reject it, or even condemn it- no problem.
[FairfieldLife] Donovan aims to put students on higher plane
Donovan aims to put students on higher plane by Thair Shaikh The Guardian 1 November 2007 On 1 November 2007 The Guardian reported: Scottish folk singer Donovan and film director David Lynch have joined together to create the Invincible Donovan University where students can learn Transcendental Meditation along with traditional university subjects. It is a joy for Global Good News service to feature this news, which indicates the success of the life-supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to bring fulfilment to the field of education. Donovan and Lynch, who were joined by quantum physicist John Hagelin and Dr Bevan Morris, President of Maharishi University of Management located in the United States, are on a British tour promoting Transcendental Meditation as a way to reduce stress, crime, and violence in colleges and schools. Lynch, a 34-year practitioner of TM, has set up a foundation for children to learn Transcendental Meditation. The Guardian reported, 'He said through his foundation he had found children undertaking meditation achieve better qualifications at school, boost their creativity, particularly in relation to the arts, and are more productive.' Donovan explained that his university would offer the usual subjects with the addition of Transcendental Meditation, and that he would be involved in teaching and administrative aspects of the project. He was quoted as saying, 'It will be a normal university but will also be very, very different because of its potential that will be unfolding because of an extraordinary technique which I learnt when I was in India It's called transcendental meditation and it has been applied for many years in different educational programmes with astounding results.' Donovan has met with Scottish culture minister Linda Fabiani to discuss the project. The Guardian quoted Donovan as saying, ' ... the world is ready for this now, it is clear this is the time'. , Copyright © 2007 Global Good News(sm) Service. - Ihre erste Baustelle? Wissenswertes für Bastler und Hobby Handwerker.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I'm plenty open to the subjective and objective Divinity I *experience* as a result of my practice of TM. But it certainly doesn't include the bullshit of Maharishi's fake kings and fake palaces and useless towers of invincibility that represent fake kingdoms and fake countries. That insanity has nothing at all to do with either the Divinity I experience with TM and am familiar with in my experience of Guru Dev [and recently Lakshmi], *or* rational factual objective reality. Schizophrenics and people on hallucinogenics make the same kinds of claims. Heh... I don't attempt to objectify my subtle perceptions into fake outer constructs, like special hats for pretend occasions, fake titles, fake kingdoms, fake countries etc... Anything subtle I *do* experience *already* has its *own* existence and is perceived in its *own* subtle state. Temporary life in *this world* has its own, as Guru Dev clearly indicated, preferable, useful and meaningful purpose - at the level it is. As for all that fake stuff, and all kidding aside for a sec-- I think what Maharishi is doing in many of these instances is creating on earth to the extent that the low earth consciousness allows him to, are ideal representations of organizations, concepts, divine forms, etc. to more solidly bring into earth's atmosphere the archetypes of human perfection. When seen through the lens of contemporary society, which we can all agree leaves a tremendous amount to be desired anyway, such things look fake, clownish, and bizarre. However, it is actually quite a powerful and fearless thing for Maharishi to be doing, no matter what the justification of his followers may be to themselves for their involvement in this pageant of His. So be fascinated by it, or reject it, or even condemn it- no problem. I've heard those justifications before. I stand by my comments.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for all that fake stuff, and all kidding aside for a sec-- I think what Maharishi is doing in many of these instances is creating on earth to the extent that the low earth consciousness allows him to, are ideal representations of organizations, concepts, divine forms, etc. to more solidly bring into earth's atmosphere the archetypes of human perfection. When seen through the lens of contemporary society, which we can all agree leaves a tremendous amount to be desired anyway, such things look fake, clownish, and bizarre. However, it is actually quite a powerful and fearless thing for Maharishi to be doing, no matter what the justification of his followers may be to themselves for their involvement in this pageant of His. So be fascinated by it, or reject it, or even condemn it- no problem. Great ! Classic Theosophical presentation of truth as it is presented to us right in front of our eyes, in this life, now. It's a marvel and gift of opportunity Maharishi is giving with total fearlessness, total abandon. Very well put. It's such a pleasure to read this kind of insights Jim ! And one fine day I will stop getting agitated by the waves of agitation Maharishi is creating on some levels, in some people and just enjoy his Lila. I know he is :-) Thanks again !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: As for all that fake stuff, and all kidding aside for a sec-- I think what Maharishi is doing in many of these instances is creating on earth to the extent that the low earth consciousness allows him to, are ideal representations of organizations, concepts, divine forms, etc. to more solidly bring into earth's atmosphere the archetypes of human perfection. When seen through the lens of contemporary society, which we can all agree leaves a tremendous amount to be desired anyway, such things look fake, clownish, and bizarre. However, it is actually quite a powerful and fearless thing for Maharishi to be doing, no matter what the justification of his followers may be to themselves for their involvement in this pageant of His. So be fascinated by it, or reject it, or even condemn it- no problem. Great ! Classic Theosophical presentation of truth as it is presented to us right in front of our eyes, in this life, now. It's a marvel and gift of opportunity Maharishi is giving with total fearlessness, total abandon. Very well put. It's such a pleasure to read this kind of insights Jim ! And one fine day I will stop getting agitated by the waves of agitation Maharishi is creating on some levels, in some people and just enjoy his Lila. I know he is :-) Thanks again ! Glad you enjoyed them-- I do too, only because the knowledge is so lively and dynamic-- lots of fun and bliss. Yeah, I know he is too! Life is nothing but a complete pleasure and joy to Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, I'd love to know why I should be loyal to a man I no longer trust. Unfortunately I think you are lost in your sane materialistic little world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--MMY has a poor and naive understanding of the immense M-fields that are antagonistic toward the spread of TM. 1. These include Evangelical Christians; (i.e. as an energy field the vast numbers of such people radiate, along with the dogma) 2. and in the Middle East, Islam Fundamentalists. Some of the original suppositions MMY came up with in the 60's simply don't work...: for example, the notion that druggies will simply embrace TM since it provides and curative alternative to dope. Or, the idea that psychologists will readily embrace TM because the practice will eradicate mental illnesses. Or, that people in the criminal justice system will promote TM to offset crimes, (and we know that the ME effect proves diminishing levels of crime). etc. Even on a more fundamental level, we have yet to see demonstrations of actually why somebody would begin the practice of TM; as an incentive to assist the practioner in the relative field of existence. Bogus and/or doctored statistics are counterproductive. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: As for all that fake stuff, and all kidding aside for a sec-- I think what Maharishi is doing in many of these instances is creating on earth to the extent that the low earth consciousness allows him to, are ideal representations of organizations, concepts, divine forms, etc. to more solidly bring into earth's atmosphere the archetypes of human perfection. When seen through the lens of contemporary society, which we can all agree leaves a tremendous amount to be desired anyway, such things look fake, clownish, and bizarre. However, it is actually quite a powerful and fearless thing for Maharishi to be doing, no matter what the justification of his followers may be to themselves for their involvement in this pageant of His. So be fascinated by it, or reject it, or even condemn it- no problem. Great ! Classic Theosophical presentation of truth as it is presented to us right in front of our eyes, in this life, now. It's a marvel and gift of opportunity Maharishi is giving with total fearlessness, total abandon. Very well put. It's such a pleasure to read this kind of insights Jim ! And one fine day I will stop getting agitated by the waves of agitation Maharishi is creating on some levels, in some people and just enjoy his Lila. I know he is :-) Thanks again !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Sure, I'd love to know why I should be loyal to a man I no longer trust. Unfortunately I think you are lost in your sane materialistic little world. Think what you like. Crazy people like you surely do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
TurquoiseB wrote: For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? But Barry, you don't even own a car! I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. And yet. And yet guys -- young and old -- still somehow believe that driving the right car will get a guy laid. Now isn't that one the biggest *disconnects* between the sexes, one of the grandest Mars- Venus juxtapositions you've ever heard? Guys, you should *hear* the things that women say about guys who drive flashy cars. They seem to have mistaken their gearshift knobs for their penises is the only comment I can think of that is PG-rated enough to post here. Women, please step up and be counted on this issue. I know what the women I know think on this issue, but what do you think? Here's a metaphor to help you out. If you were in L.A., single and unattached, and you saw David Duchovny drive up in an old, beat-up Porsche that hasn't been washed in months, and he invited you up to his place for a quickie, would any of the thoughts going through your head be along the lines of, Wow...I should say Yes because he has a nice car? Guys, would you *want* a woman who loved you for your car? If you drive a Ferrari and that's why she's with you, think about what it costs you to pay for the *maintenance* on that Ferrari every month and multiply it by ten to figure out the hit she's going to take out of your wallet. Let's put this male urban legend to rest once and for all. In my life, I've driven TR4s and VW Vanagons and Lexus two-seaters and Saab 96s and 4X4s and currently an old Peugeot 306 diesel, and not *one* of these cars ever seemed to have anything to do with how often I got laid -- no matter what my buddies told me back in high school.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
do.rflex wrote: Pure hokum with ZERO objective outer substance that has any connection whatsoever to *actual* human affairs on this planet. Sort of like the pure hokum of worshiping a Bhagavan or having conversations with a dead saint like Brahmanand Saraswati - no connection whatsoever to *actual* human affairs on this planet! guffaw
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
TurquoiseB wrote: For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. Bhairitu wrote: I had a woman friend who owned a Porsche Carrera which was her status symbol but she never took care of it. Her brother came to town to visit and screamed at her that her tires were bald. The transmission had problems so she wound up poking along the freeway at about 50 mph and getting flipped off by passersby ( here in California 80mph is driving with the flow of traffic). So, you did once jump in a car owned by a girl because you were impressed with the car she drove.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev has something to say about rajas
do-reflex wrote: No wonder all the sane people left Maharishi many years ago. Yeah, like the insane nutcases that used to tell students that the TM mantras were the secret nicknames of the Hindu demi-Gods! To tell you the truth, I do not think he misses any of your sane nutcases from the early days of the Movement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Important Philosophical and Moral Question
TurquoiseB wrote: For the women here. Lurkers, come out of your lurkdom and check in on this one. Judy, feel free to post your answer as well. I will take it off of my account and make one less post this week. The question is (for the women): Have you ever (or have any of your women friends ever) been impressed enough by the car a guy drives to hop in bed with him? I lived almost my entire life in Manhattan. Nobody I knew had a car. But, you are assuming that a guy would let YOU jump in his car in the first place. Just for the sake of the discussion, what kind of guy besides Barry, would want an old lady jumping in their car? And why would an old lady want to jump into a rented car driven by an old man like Barry? I'm asking because the concept came up in one of Edg's posts today, but also did around the dinner table in Sitges last night. Six beautiful, intelligent women all pondered the question for a microsecond and replied, No way. And yet. And yet guys -- young and old -- still somehow believe that driving the right car will get a guy laid. Now isn't that one the biggest *disconnects* between the sexes, one of the grandest Mars- Venus juxtapositions you've ever heard? At least, between Edg and those particular six women, having just been asked that question by someone who obviously thought it was a crock and would ridicule them if they said they *would* take the car into account. snip Here's a metaphor to help you out. If you were in L.A., single and unattached, and you saw David Duchovny drive up in an old, beat-up Porsche that hasn't been washed in months, and he invited you up to his place for a quickie, would any of the thoughts going through your head be along the lines of, Wow...I should say Yes because he has a nice car? Not if it was David Duchovny. I'd say yes if he were in a wheelchair. But assuming it was a stranger in an old, beat-up, unwashed Porsche, it might factor in my decision because there would probably be an interesting story behind why he was driving it. A stranger in a new but dirty Porsche, maybe, for the same reason. Growing up in Manhattan, I doubt that you'd recognize anything but a yellow taxi cab. A stranger in a new, shiny Porsche, I'd be tempted, but only for the sake of getting to ride in the Porsche. This is assuming that you would even recognize what a new Porsche looks like. Let's put this male urban legend to rest once and for all. In my life, I've driven TR4s and VW Vanagons and Lexus two-seaters and Saab 96s and 4X4s and currently an old Peugeot 306 diesel, and not *one* of these cars ever seemed to have anything to do with how often I got laid -- no matter what my buddies told me back in high school. Ah, but if you'd only driven a Porsche, maybe you *would* have gotten laid. From what I can tell Barry doesn't own a car.
