[FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu wrote: My training is from a tantric samrat of the Kali tradition. I am now at the level of Sidh tantric which means I have mastered the tantric siddhis which are all given by mantra. These include the vashikaran, stambhan, uchattan, shanti, videshan and maran siddhis. snip None of these have anything to do with sex snip My experience with vashikaran was the day after getting the first mantra for it everyone I encountered in like store clerks even if cranky mellowed out when I dealt with them. It's been that way ever since. It would be nice if it worked over the internet. :) Fascinating. Yes, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over the internet, esp this group. =) Heck, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over a town hall meeting. I'm just a grasshopper at all this, and so far my approach has been eclectic and basically non-path, I guess. Proly some focus would help things along a bit faster. Do you think the mantra, the chant itself, does work, or is it a tool for focusing attention? You've probably written quite a bit on this already, but I didn't connect earlier posts with a specific approach, and I'm interested in knowing more about this one. My notion is that the attention is the important thing, not how it is evoked, but that some methods are more efficient at evoking that attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amen Break Golden Mean
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Bob, I never thought to do that. For some reason at work, my network won't let me get into some sites, tinyurl being one of them. But your suggestion eliminates the need to do an end run. One thing that might be fascinating to you, Marek, is to try to access a few sites to see what kinds of sites are being blocked. The software that does this is often a package, sold to employers or to businesses or, in your case, possibly to governments, with the idea of blocking certain Websites that might cause their employees to fritter away their work time there. Game sites, porn sites, etc. certainly usually qualify. But a scandal that went through the industry a few years back revealed that most of the providers of this kind of software (which is supplied *without* a list of the blocked sites that you can read and edit) often include sites that they disagree with politically or morally. For example, the NOW (National Organization of Women) site was blocked on many of them, as were sites providing contraception or abortion infor- mation. Sometimes they were even blatant enough to block sites pertaining to one political party. So a little playing around to see what kinds of sites are blocked for you might reveal more about the politics and morals of the folks who provided the software to your office than you really wanted to know. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now, the biofuel market is being grossly distorted by subsidies and trade barriers in the United States and the European Union. These make it rewarding to produce ethanol from corn or grains that are far less productive than sugarcane ethanol, divert land from food production (unlike sugarcane), and have dubious environmental credentials. What sense does it make to have a surplus of environmentally friendly Brazilian sugar-based ethanol with a yield eight times higher than U.S. corn ethanol and zero impact on food prices being kept from an American market by a tariff of 54 cents on a gallon while Iowan corn ethanol gets a subsidy? It would make a lot more sense to drop the tariff, drop the subsidy, and allow Brazilian ethanol into the United States, said Philippe Reichstul, the chief executive of a biofuel company in São Paulo. Pressure on U.S. land will be slashed. The United States and Europe should maintain their biofuel targets. Pressure to scrap a European plan for renewable fuels to supply a tenth of all vehicle fuel by 2020 must be resisted while rethinking the policies that favor the wrong biofuels. The real scam lies in developed world protectionism and skewed subsidies, not the biofuel idea. more http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/opinion/24cohen.html Om, on the verge of a major re-luanch here in FF, what is the relationship of biosfuels to FFL? What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Where do you live? Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as many others pursuing various spiritual paths. What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ispiritkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu wrote: My training is from a tantric samrat of the Kali tradition. I am now at the level of Sidh tantric which means I have mastered the tantric siddhis which are all given by mantra. These include the vashikaran, stambhan, uchattan, shanti, videshan and maran siddhis. snip None of these have anything to do with sex snip My experience with vashikaran was the day after getting the first mantra for it everyone I encountered in like store clerks even if cranky mellowed out when I dealt with them. It's been that way ever since. It would be nice if it worked over the internet. :) Fascinating. Yes, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over the internet, esp this group. =) Heck, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over a town hall meeting. I'm just a grasshopper at all this, and so far my approach has been eclectic and basically non-path, I guess. Proly some focus would help things along a bit faster. Do you think the mantra, the chant itself, does work, or is it a tool for focusing attention? You've probably written quite a bit on this already, but I didn't connect earlier posts with a specific approach, and I'm interested in knowing more about this one. My notion is that the attention is the important thing, not how it is evoked, but that some methods are more efficient at evoking that attention. Bhairitu probably has his own opinions on all of this, and I shall let him expound upon them. Here are mine. I suspect that techniques to achieve siddhis all tend to fall into a category I would call putting the cart before the horse. Someone in the past, say a teacher within an existing spiritual tradition, develops the ability to perform a certain siddhi. So people ask him how he did it. And he says, Well, I sat and meditated upon this particular mantra. And so a sub-tradition springs up within that spiritual tradition of meditating on that particular mantra as a technique for learning how to perform that siddhi. And what happens? A few -- *very* few, in most instances -- achieve some limited success at manifesting the siddhi in question, while the vast majority experience no results at all. But a few do achieve some limited results, so the tradition persists. But, from my point of view, the original mantra that the original guy meditated on had nothing whatsoever to do with his ability to manifest that siddhi. What made him able to do it was slipping into the state of attention from which that siddhi is possible, just through intention. The original mantra worked for *him* to shift his attention to that particular state of attention from which the siddhi becomes effort- less. But that does not necessarily mean that the same mantra would achieve the same effect for others IMO. Take the TM flying siddhi. Yep, in theory it's passed down from a long and noble tradition, although TM's implementation of it is bastardized and thought silently in English or some other modern language, not in its original Sanskrit form. And yep, it might have worked for some seekers way back in time. But how many TMers do you see zooming through the skies? How many public demonstrations have there been of real levitation? How many excuses have been presented for why it doesn't work? Cart before the horse. The map is not the territory. And following the map does not nec- essarily get you *to* the territory. The territory IMO is an attribute of the state of attention from which the siddhi in question is performed. All of the techniques are just ways to try to trick the seeker into entering that state of attention. Just my two centimes...
[FairfieldLife] Webcast, David Lynch, lilve , sort of like Tolle on Oprah
www.lynchweekend.org/webcast http://www.oprah.com/obc_classic/webcast/archive/archive_download.jsp
[FairfieldLife] Ramayana in the physiology
'So there are different levels of the ways the Veda contains Natural Law, and allows us to be in tune with it. The sounds of the Veda alone align us back to our nature, because they are usso when we hear them, we align, we align, we align. That's the effect of the sounds of the Vedathey align the physiology back to its own basic structure and function, bring it back home, even on the surface level. (more) http://tinyurl.com/4cjapa
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: what is the relationship of biosfuels to FFL? What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Where do you live? Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as many others pursuing various spiritual paths. What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, Topics of interest to seekers? Well I find biofuels interesting. And I doubt any stuff about the election would find it's way here if we're going to be TM strict about it. As for the other stuff I post, I guess it depends where you think truth may lie. And there's the problem, If science has shown us anything it's that truth is a bit of a moving target, what you expect to be true often turns out to be nothing of the sort. The TMO makes great claims to be interested in science, but are they really? I don't remember any experiments into yagyas in the collected papers. They like it when it suits them, and I'm only too happy to point that out. To be honest Bertrand Russel didn't have meditation in mind when he made the remark above, quite the opposite actually, it's a call to remove the blinkers religion puts on us. The TMO is a religion so lets take an objective look at it and see what stands up. Which is why I post the stuff I do, it's good to challenge beliefs, if something can't withstand a bit of probing why call it Truth. Personally, I think the TM experience is good but the explantion is 5000 years out of date, or is it? To me, that's what seeking the truth is all about. If you're happy accepting the TM dogma and never asking questions, fine, we're all different. Interestingly, the term spiritual comes from the latin *spiritus animus* or That Which Animates Us. So I consider myself spiritual because I want to know if the mind is just a machine that evolved (the most likely option so far) and if it's functioning can be improved using meditation or anything else that comes along. If it turns out to be something else, I'm just as happy. Take what you need and leave the rest
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: what is the relationship of biosfuels to FFL? What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Where do you live? Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as many others pursuing various spiritual paths. What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, Topics of interest to seekers? Well I find biofuels interesting. And I doubt any stuff about the election would find it's way here if we're going to be TM strict about it. As for the other stuff I post, I guess it depends where you think truth may lie. And there's the problem, If science has shown us anything it's that truth is a bit of a moving target, what you expect to be true often turns out to be nothing of the sort. The TMO makes great claims to be interested in science, but are they really? I don't remember any experiments into yagyas in the collected papers. They like it when it suits them, and I'm only too happy to point that out. To be honest Bertrand Russel didn't have meditation in mind when he made the remark above, quite the opposite actually, it's a call to remove the blinkers religion puts on us. The TMO is a religion so lets take an objective look at it and see what stands up. Which is why I post the stuff I do, it's good to challenge beliefs, if something can't withstand a bit of probing why call it Truth. Personally, I think the TM experience is good but the explantion is 5000 years out of date, or is it? To me, that's what seeking the truth is all about. If you're happy accepting the TM dogma and never asking questions, fine, we're all different. Interestingly, the term spiritual comes from the latin *spiritus animus* or That Which Animates Us. So I consider myself spiritual because I want to know if the mind is just a machine that evolved (the most likely option so far) and if it's functioning can be improved using meditation or anything else that comes along. If it turns out to be something else, I'm just as happy. Take what you need and leave the rest Of course, you may not have been refering to me, in which case: Oops.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: snip What made him able to do it was slipping into the state of attention from which that siddhi is possible, just through intention. snip The territory IMO is an attribute of the state of attention from which the siddhi in question is performed. All of the techniques are just ways to try to trick the seeker into entering that state of attention. Slipping into the state of attention is something I have done when doing healing work. I'd like to be able to do this more predictably or more reliably. Right now, it happens kind of by accident, and I don't control it, but when it happens, I notice an incredible amount of heat in the area of my body that I'm applying to do healing, usually my hands. From noticing the effects over several instances, it seems that this is healing energy, and I sure would like to focus it! I have a few ideas based on how it has worked the few times I identified it, but it's a slippery little beastie. For one thing, it seems to be equally dependent on the receptivity of the person I'm working on.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Strange place for Bevan's tower
On Apr 25, 2008, at 3:44 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO is building a tower in Bevan's home town on the site of a famous murder in Adelaide: http://tinyurl.com/4o4fcl sold it to the Transcendental Meditation Movement for $1 million. It has been reported the new owners plan to build a $3.5 million, 12- storey tower on the site but they have remained tight-lipped about the plans. The Vedic engineers are probably having a hard time figuring out how to make it wider than it is tall and still look like a tower. :-)
[FairfieldLife] From one of Judy's favorite websites...
What many people have been saying for a while now... Many of us have been speculating for weeks now that since the nomination is out of reach, Hillary's main objective is to clobber Obama enough so that he won't beat McCain, thus preserving her viability for 2012. And now the top-ranking African-American congressman from South Carolina is saying just that. Undoubtedly he's one of the few with the guts to say what should be pretty obvious to anyone paying even a tiny bit of attention. http://tinyurl.com/4vh5sr
[FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
Or possibly, using the Ochams Razor approach, she just feels that she still has a chance. Of course if you subscribe to this theory you have to eliminate all the subterfuge, conspiracy, cloak and dagger reasons. From one who doesn't have a strong attachment to either candidate the Barak supporters seem to be straining like a difficult bowel movement to GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE. GODDAMNIT, I WANT HER OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REST OF ELECTORATE THINK. DAMN THE ELECTORATE. I WANT THAT BITCH OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What many people have been saying for a while now... Many of us have been speculating for weeks now that since the nomination is out of reach, Hillary's main objective is to clobber Obama enough so that he won't beat McCain, thus preserving her viability for 2012. And now the top-ranking African-American congressman from South Carolina is saying just that. Undoubtedly he's one of the few with the guts to say what should be pretty obvious to anyone paying even a tiny bit of attention. http://tinyurl.com/4vh5sr
[FairfieldLife] Making short URLs (was: Re: Amen Break Golden Mean)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Bob, I never thought to do that. For some reason at work, my network won't let me get into some sites, tinyurl being one of them. But your suggestion eliminates the need to do an end run. See if your work network has these two blocked: http://snipurl.com/ http://notlong.com/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
what is the relationship of biosfuels to FFL? What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Where do you live? Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as many others pursuing various spiritual paths. What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, Doug, you forgot this part of the description: “Pretty much any topic is fair game.” If people want to discuss backgammon strategies, it’s fine with me. Environmental topics, such as biofuels, are clearly relevant. MUM has one of the best eco-programs in the country, so such topics are very much in vogue here in FF, and the viability of biofuels is very relevant in a corn-growing state such as Iowa. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release Date: 4/24/2008 7:24 AM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
On Apr 25, 2008, at 7:27 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Or possibly, using the Ochams Razor approach, she just feels that she still has a chance. Of course if you subscribe to this theory you have to eliminate all the subterfuge, conspiracy, cloak and dagger reasons. From one who doesn't have a strong attachment to either candidate the Barak supporters seem to be straining like a difficult bowel movement to GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE. GODDAMNIT, I WANT HER OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REST OF ELECTORATE THINK. DAMN THE ELECTORATE. I WANT THAT BITCH OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. lurk, have you ever considered the possibility that you have a lot of unresolved anger issues? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Strange place for Bevan's tower
Shouldn't the subject title be Strange place for Prime Minister's tower? towerhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/174686 --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO is building a tower in Bevan's home town on the site of a famous murder in Adelaide: http://tinyurl.com/4o4fcl To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurk, have you ever considered the possibility that you have a lot of unresolved anger issues? Tell me something I don't know!!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:04 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurk, have you ever considered the possibility that you have a lot of unresolved anger issues? Tell me something I don't know!!! I obviously can't!! !! !! So there. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Ball lightning form your microwave (Was: Turn your flashlight into a laser)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/756433/laser_flashlight_hack/ Whilst we are being a little irresponsible: http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/gmrtst/index.htm Uns.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: This discussion is so twisted in its logic. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Israel does. So why are people creating fictional scenarios of Iran nuking Israel? 1) Because all indications are that, like North Korea before them, as they are with full speed ahead enriching uranium and only claiming it is for use in generating electricity that, in reality, they are doing it to make nuclear bombs; and 2) Because, time and time and yet time again, the elected representative of the Iranians, Mr. Ahmedehejad, has said that Israel will be wiped off the map. *** Ahmadinejad did not say that he was going to destroy Israel -- the more reasonable translation of what he was saying was that the name of Israel is not going to be on future maps of the Middle East, and I'm quite sure that will happen within a generation or two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel It's the ultimate hypocrisy for the U.S. to OK Israel's enormous cache of nuclear weapons while insisting that other countries do not have the same right to WMD to assert their national interests, and as noted in another post, the U.S. has had to back down on this untenable position: VIENNA (AP) Facing international opposition, U.S. negotiators at a nuclear meeting have dropped their insistence on a ban on the transfer of uranium enrichment technology to non-nuclear states, diplomats said Tuesday. The compromise, which moves American closer to the positions of other nations selling nuclear technology and material, is important because it could give ammunition to Iran, which is under U.N. sanctions for defying a Security Council demand that it give up its enrichment program. (more) http://tinyurl.com/4c78tk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
You seem to know what's behind all the geo-political hotspots Bob, do you secretly work for the CIA? Wouldn't you love it Bob if Israel just went away? All the world's problems would be solved then right? You are the only one I know who can make a billion people look like victims. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: A little Obama sabor rattling? Let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will. - Barack Obama Last time I checked President Musharraf was president of Pakistan, an ally of the US. Now I can sleep well at night knowing that Obama means business *** The reason why Musharraf and other Paki leaders don't want to capture Bin Laden and his associates is the U.S. would drop Pakistan like a hot rock once that happened, instead of handing over billions in aid as long as the bogeyman is on the loose. A guy with the name Obama desperately needs to distance himself from his Islamic namesakes, so this is truly just sabre rattling -- if Barack were to make it into the White House (not a chance in hell), he would not follow up on these empty threats. Killing off a few leaders here and there does nothing to stop antagonism that U.S. and Israel policies have created around the Muslim/Arab world, so it's not a sign of weakness to abandon silly manhunts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) so Clinton's threat obviously is intended to garner support among the pro-Zionist factions in the U.S. (fundies probably even more important than Jews in this regard): (snip) This is why I see Obama's Presidency as so important, for this one issue if nothing else. Because both Hillary and McCain are carrying water for this kind of war- posturing... And I am afraid, at this point, we have to deal with our enemy's in a civilized way. There is a peace movement in Israel, as I am sure there is one in Iran. There is a peace movement here also... Trouble is, people are a bit sheep-like, and easily brain- washed, especially when they get into being afraid... Then they want to stick with what's familiar. So, for many older people especially, like we see in Pennsylvania, they just stick with what's familiar... So, unless the peacemakers regain control of these nations, then we will continue playing these very expensive and destructive war- games...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: This discussion is so twisted in its logic. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Israel does. So why are people creating fictional scenarios of Iran nuking Israel? 1) Because all indications are that, like North Korea before them, as they are with full speed ahead enriching uranium and only claiming it is for use in generating electricity that, in reality, they are doing it to make nuclear bombs; and 2) Because, time and time and yet time again, the elected representative of the Iranians, Mr. Ahmedehejad, has said that Israel will be wiped off the map. *** Ahmadinejad did not say that he was going to destroy Israel -- the more reasonable translation of what he was saying was that the name of Israel is not going to be on future maps of the Middle East, and I'm quite sure that will happen within a generation or two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel It's the ultimate hypocrisy for the U.S. to OK Israel's enormous cache of nuclear weapons while insisting that other countries do not have the same right to WMD to assert their national interests, and as noted in another post, the U.S. has had to back down on this untenable position: VIENNA (AP) Facing international opposition, U.S. negotiators at a nuclear meeting have dropped their insistence on a ban on the transfer of uranium enrichment technology to non-nuclear states, diplomats said Tuesday. The compromise, which moves American closer to the
[FairfieldLife] Making short URLs (was: Re: Amen Break Golden Mean)
Excellent, Alex, both of those sites I can get to. We got new computers about 6 months ago and for a long time I couldn't get yahoo mail and I still can't open any articles in the NYTimes, though I can go to the site; I'm sure there are other sites that are off limits but I can't figure out any particular rhyme or reason. I appreciate the newly regained url-shortening siddhi, thanks. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks, Bob, I never thought to do that. For some reason at work, my network won't let me get into some sites, tinyurl being one of them. But your suggestion eliminates the need to do an end run. See if your work network has these two blocked: http://snipurl.com/ http://notlong.com/
[FairfieldLife] The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
Self Realization (or CC) purportedly occurs with the awakening of the 6th chakra (Ajna), this is realization of the 'Self' as made in the 'image of God', MMY use to call it a milestone in evolution, but still just the beginning. MMY describes it thus, The silence which is experienced in cosmic consciousness, and which separates the Self from activity, is on an infinitely smaller scale, for it is on the level of individual existence. CH VI vs3. Gita God Realization is the advanced stage of...cosmic consciousness or realization of GOD (immanent in all of creation) as the Self. This is the macro reflection of God IN creation whereas Self-Realization is the micro reflection of God in man, beyond them both is Unity or Brahman encompassing both the relative, manifest and absolute, unmanifest spheres of life. MMY says: The one (GC) forms the basis of the activity of the *whole* of *creation*, the other (CC) the basis (only) of individual activity. Gita With the awakening of the 7th Chakra or crown chakra full Unity is achieved or Nirvikalpa Samadhi; Purnam adah, Purnam idam, inner and outer fullness.
[FairfieldLife] FW: Bob Ramanaya....
From: joerg dao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bob Ramanaya Hi Rick, its nice, that Bob tries to teach about Ramayana. # 174747 But from european understanding. he really didn`t get it. cheers joerg. Bob goes: 'So there are different levels of the ways the Veda contains Natural Law, and allows us to be in tune with it. The sounds of the Veda alone align us back to our nature, because they are us—so when we hear them, we align, we align, we align. That's the effect of the sounds of the Veda—they align the physiology back to its own basic structure and function, bring it back home, even on the surface level. (more) HYPERLINK http://tinyurl.com/4cjapahttp://tinyurl.com/4cjapa But ours is not to align, align, align. That is the indian approach to teach, which, we should remember, is mainly for non-educated, an-alphabetic people. Easy, but not understandable. Our is to UNDERSTAND. Since I can read and translate sanskrit on the inner level, alone from the Vedic Physiology Book, I could point out the very first phrase. It has two syllables, that don`t belong there. They are black, when you look at them. And they distort the whole music of the phrase. If you take them out, the whole gets its inner meaning, and music. So some old knower has brought in these two syllables, to make the whole first phrase un-understandable. And only if you have enough inner vision, you are allowed to go on. The rest will stop at this two syllables, and mainly go to sleep It would be mad to assume, that highly educated or even enlightened beings wrote some sort of music with no intellectual understanding. hmm cheers from northern germany maybe look here: http://joergdao.fortunecity.de/india1.html# _ Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. HYPERLINK http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx%20Check it out! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1395 - Release Date: 4/24/2008 7:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1397 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 7:42 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: This discussion is so twisted in its logic. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Israel does. So why are people creating fictional scenarios of Iran nuking Israel? 1) Because all indications are that, like North Korea before them, as they are with full speed ahead enriching uranium and only claiming it is for use in generating electricity that, in reality, they are doing it to make nuclear bombs; and 2) Because, time and time and yet time again, the elected representative of the Iranians, Mr. Ahmedehejad, has said that Israel will be wiped off the map. *** Ahmadinejad did not say that he was going to destroy Israel -- the more reasonable translation of what he was saying was that the name of Israel is not going to be on future
[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
With the awakening of the 7th Chakra or crown chakra full Unity is achieved or Nirvikalpa Samadhi; Purnam adah, Purnam idam, inner and outer fullness. I love story time! I also have heard, based on solid scriptural authority, that accepting Jesus as your personal savior allows you to enter eternal life in heaven with God and all the angels singing for all eternity in high pitched castrati voices praises for the Almighty Father in his Almightinessinhoodedmentitude. OK, now get your blankies and lie down on your cots and we'll see if someone can tell us the story of the 72 virgins and how we can fall all up into that fer schnizzle! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Self Realization (or CC) purportedly occurs with the awakening of the 6th chakra (Ajna), this is realization of the 'Self' as made in the 'image of God', MMY use to call it a milestone in evolution, but still just the beginning. MMY describes it thus, The silence which is experienced in cosmic consciousness, and which separates the Self from activity, is on an infinitely smaller scale, for it is on the level of individual existence. CH VI vs3. Gita God Realization is the advanced stage of...cosmic consciousness or realization of GOD (immanent in all of creation) as the Self. This is the macro reflection of God IN creation whereas Self-Realization is the micro reflection of God in man, beyond them both is Unity or Brahman encompassing both the relative, manifest and absolute, unmanifest spheres of life. MMY says: The one (GC) forms the basis of the activity of the *whole* of *creation*, the other (CC) the basis (only) of individual activity. Gita With the awakening of the 7th Chakra or crown chakra full Unity is achieved or Nirvikalpa Samadhi; Purnam adah, Purnam idam, inner and outer fullness.
[FairfieldLife] Dick Cheney to Middle-America: Let Them Eat Cake
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-david-goldberg/dick-cheney-to-middle-ame_b_98006.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
Doug wrote: What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Do they grow corn in Iowa, Doug? Where do you live? On a farm?
[FairfieldLife] Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
Sgrayatlarge, I sincerely apologize for suggesting that you are a pro-war poster. I was entirely wrong -- I was flat out wrong. I beg your forgiveness, and I hope my other posts here will have convinced you that I was doing one of my shoot from the hip at 120 words per minute thingies, and that we probably see eye to eye on humanitarian issues. As a punishment, if you desire, I will refrain from posting here for any amount of time you decree -- even banning me forever. I simply fucked up big time, and if I'm willing to ban the War Monger, surely, I must be subject to the same verdict if you see fit. I have deleted the offensive post as a very small token. Edg curtisdeltablues wrote: Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade...This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. Curtis, I just now reread all of sgrayatlarge's last twenty posts, and I WAS WRONG. Don't know why I got him confused with other War Mongers here, but I did -- his post had something smarmy and I took it as a willingness to bomb Iran. Some days, I'm like this, and GAWD GAWD GAWD. If Sgrayatlarge bans me, nice knowing ya, folks! Edg no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
I sincerely apologize for suggesting that you are a pro-war poster. Duveyoung wrote: I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. You slimey liar - shut the fuck up. Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
[FairfieldLife] Barry Hussein's distractions
The Distractions Of Obama's Character By Charles Krauthammer Friday, April 25, 2008 Real change has never been easy. ... The status quo in Washington will fight. They will fight harder than ever to divide us and distract us with ads and attacks from now until November. -- Barack Obama, Pennsylvania primary night speech WASHINGTON -- With that, Obama identified the new public enemy: the distractions foisted upon a pliable electorate by the malevolent forces of the status quo, i.e., those who might wish to see someone else become president next January. It's easy to get caught up in the distractions and the silliness and the tit for tat that consumes our politics and trivializes the profound issues that face our country, he warned sternly. These must be resisted. Why? Because Obama understands that the real threat to his candidacy is less Hillary Clinton and John McCain than his own character and cultural attitudes. He came out of nowhere with his autobiography already written, then saw it embellished daily by the hagiographic coverage and kid-gloves questioning of a supine press. (Which is why those Saturday Night Live parodies were so devastatingly effective.) Then came the three amigos: Tony Rezko, the indicted fixer; Jeremiah Wright, the racist reverend; William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist. And then Obama's own anthropological observation that bitter working-class whites cling to guns and religion because they misapprehend their real class interests. In the now-famous Pennsylvania debate, Obama had extreme difficulty answering questions about these associations and attitudes. The difficulty is understandable. Some of the contradictions are inexplicable. How does one explain campaigning throughout 2007 on a platform of transcending racial divisions, while in that same year contributing $26,000 to a church whose pastor incites race hatred? What is Obama to do? Dismiss all such questions about his associations and attitudes as distractions. And then count on his acolytes in the media to wage jihad against those who have the temerity to raise these questions. As if the character and beliefs of a man who would be president are less important than the issues. As if some political indecency was committed when Obama was prevented from going through his 21st -- and likely last -- primary debate without being asked about Wright or Ayers or the tribal habits of gun- toting God-loving Pennsylvanians. Take Ayers. Obama makes it sound as if the relationship consists of having run into each other at the DMV. In fact, Obama's political career was launched in a 1995 meeting at Ayers' home. Obama's own campaign says that they maintain friendly relations. Obama's defense is that he was 8 when Ayers and his Weather Underground comrades were planting bombs at the Pentagon, the U.S. Capitol and other buildings. True. But Obama was 40 when Ayers said publicly that he doesn't regret setting bombs. Indeed, he said, I feel we didn't do enough. Would you maintain friendly relations with an unrepentant terrorist? Would you even shake his hand? To ask why Obama does is perfectly legitimate and perfectly relevant to understanding what manner of man he is. Obamaphiles are even more exercised about the debate question regarding the flag pin. Now, I have never worn one. Whether anyone does is a matter of total indifference to me. But apparently not to Obama. He's taken three affirmative steps in regard to flag pins. After 9/11, he began wearing one. At a later point, he stopped wearing it. Then last year he explained why: Because it became a substitute for, I think, true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security. Apart from the self-congratulatory fatuousness of that statement -- as if in this freest of all countries, political self-expression is somehow scarce or dangerous or a sign of patriotic courage -- to speak of pin-wearing as a sign of inauthentic patriotism is to make an issue of it yourself. For Obamaphiles to now protest the very asking of the question requires a fine mix of cynicism and self- righteousness. But Obama needs to cast out such questions as illegitimate distractions because they are seriously damaging his candidacy. As people begin to learn about this just-arrived pretender, the magic dissipates. He spent six weeks in Pennsylvania. Outspent Hillary more than two to one. Ran close to 10,000 television ads -- spending more than anyone in any race in the history of the state -- and lost by 10 points. And not because he insufficiently demagogued NAFTA or the other issues. It was because of those distractions -- i.e., the things that most reveal character and core beliefs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
Curtis wrote: I also have heard, based on solid scriptural authority, that accepting Jesus as your personal savior allows you to enter eternal life in heaven with God and all the angels singing for all eternity in high pitched castrati voices praises for the Almighty Father in his Almightinessinhoodedmentitude. OK, now get your blankies and lie down on your cots and we'll see if someone can tell us the story of the 72 virgins and how we can fall all up into that fer schnizzle! It always come down to sex with you guys. What's up with that? First it's the two Barry's and Vaj and their tantric sex magic; then Sal and Radha and Judy all tell you they don't appreciate your excuse for sex abuse. So, why don't you guys take a hint and stop talking about your dicks all the time? Can't you think of anything else to talk about except who is going to get the '72 virgins'?
[FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What many people have been saying for a while now... Many of us have been speculating for weeks now that since the nomination is out of reach, Hillary's main objective is to clobber Obama enough so that he won't beat McCain, thus preserving her viability for 2012. And now the top-ranking African-American congressman from South Carolina is saying just that. Undoubtedly he's one of the few with the guts to say what should be pretty obvious to anyone paying even a tiny bit of attention. Do you really think that anything Hillary is doing now and until the nomination is completed can do more damage to Barry Hussein than what his own associations have? I mean, hey, in November, all Middle America has to see are continual ads of Barry's minister and those terrorists he pals around with and they'll make up their own minds. I don't think Hillary had anything to do with that. Indeed, by Hillary staying in the race and continuing to hammer on Barry one could say that she is doing everything she can to prevent the inevitable: that in November Barry won't even carry his own state. Tell me: do you think there is anything else in Barry's closet that he hasn't told us about? You can bet that Hillary's operatives and those of the Republican Party are digging for those very things now. http://tinyurl.com/4vh5sr
[FairfieldLife] Re: Strange place for Bevan's tower
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO is building a tower in Bevan's home town on the site of a famous murder in Adelaide: http://tinyurl.com/4o4fcl Should the spirit of the dead lawyer visit the tower through the south or east entrance?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
ispiritkin wrote: Slipping into the state of attention is something I have done when doing healing work. I'd like to be able to do this more predictably or more reliably. Right now, it happens kind of by accident, and I don't control it, but when it happens, I notice an incredible amount of heat in the area of my body that I'm applying to do healing, usually my hands. From noticing the effects over several instances, it seems that this is healing energy, and I sure would like to focus it! I have a few ideas based on how it has worked the few times I identified it, but it's a slippery little beastie. For one thing, it seems to be equally dependent on the receptivity of the person I'm working on. Well I think I'm going to puke if I read one more post about Muktanannda's sex shop over in India. You guys need to get some smarts, we've got the best little whorehouses in the country down here in Texas. It was bad enough reading the Marshy sex escapdes in the FFL archives, but I draw the line when you let that little weasel Muk take over the newsgroup. I haven't heard this much gossip since I last visited my local bowling alley. Next you be telling me that a Shetty girl named Swami Chidvilasananda got knowcked up by George Alif and that she had an abortion. This is just outrageous!
[FairfieldLife] FW: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving
-- Forwarded Message From: Raja Wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:09:35 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that there are now more than 600 Vedic Pandits in Maharishi Vedic City and on the Maharishi University of Management campus, and another 450 Vedic Pandits in India have assembled and are ready to come immediately. When this new group arrives there will be 2,000 yogic flyers in the morning and 2,200 in the evening on a regular basis on the Invincible America Assembly, significantly more than the 1740 required to create and maintain invincibility for America. Even during holidays and student vacations the Invincible America Assembly should be able to remain above 1740 for both morning and evening programs. The arrival of this next group of 450 Vedic Pandits will therefore finally crown America with permnent invincibility. Without the existing 600 Vedic Pandits, there would only be 1100 Yogic Fliers on the Invincible America Assembly. The foresight of thousands of donors supporting the arrival of the Vedic Pandits have brought America to this most fortunate situation. In order for these next 450 Vedic Pandits to come to America two things need to happen: 1. $1,800 per Vedic Pandit in upfront costs are necessary to cover the issuance of passports, visas, air and ground transportation, clothing, linens, and personal supplies—a total of $810,000. Fortunately, $150,000 has already been received and spent for their passports and visas, so only $660,000 remains to cover the costs of their arrival. 2. More housing needs to be built this spring. The Vedic Pandits have figured out how to house an additional 250 Pandits on their two campuses by tripling Pandits, saying that Maharishi had given them the job of creating invincibility for America and until more housing is built they will invite the arriving Pandits to stay with them. Maharishi had told them these are war time conditions in America and they could squeeze more Pandits into each house if necessary until enough housing could be built for them to be one Pandit per room Fortunately this is the season for construction in Maharishi Vedic City, and every $120,000 of additional donations or loans will provide a comfortable house for 16 Pandits; $1.2 million will provide housing for 160 Vedic Pandits, and $4.8 million will cover the cost of all 640 Pandits who are coming here and who are currently living on the MUM campus. In this way all 1,050 Vedic Pandits and their cooks will be living together on one Maharishi Sthapatya Veda campus of 80 acres built especially for them. Maharishi Sthapatya Veda homes, modularly built in a factory with non-toxic materials, can be erected very quickly, and many can arrive in one day. Within three months, if the money is there, all the Pandits will be together and in the meantime they will be housing their arriving colleagues in their existing homes. So what is needed is $660,000 to bring the 450 Vedic Pandits to Maharishi Vedic City, and $4.8 million in either donations or loans to build the additional housing. Many people must be interested to invest in this housing, help create invincibility for America, earn a good return, and be paid back over 10 years. Since the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America covers most of the Pandits’ monthly operating costs, including repaying mortgages, the loans to build this campus will be comfortably repaid through grants and donations. The Foundation can by its by-laws contribute to operating costs of $700 per month per Pandit, but can not contribute to upfront costs or construction costs. Please help bring this last group of Vedic Pandits to America by donating now to either Global Country of World Peace HYPERLINK http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f;http://shopping.ne tsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f or Maharishi Vedic City. https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi These links will provide you with all the information necessary to contribute on-line, by mail, or by telephone. And if you or someone you know is interested in lending the funds for the construction please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 312 324 0291. Since each house for 16 Vedic Pandits costs $120,000, it would be best if each loan were for at least one house, but of course, 10 houses or the full 40 houses would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for creating permanent Invincibility for America. Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City Vedic Pandits in Maharishi Vedic City Existing Pandit Campus in Maharishi Vedic City Click here to unsubscribe HYPERLINK http://invincibleamerica.org/subscribe/;http://invincibleamerica.org/subsc ribe/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus
[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
---As usual with his lack of follow-up; MMY doesn't go into individual variations. Such as, certain individuals have been known to experience an awakening of the Ajna chakra before the crown chakra, and visa versa. That's why we need people like Vaj to give us a different slant on things. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Self Realization (or CC) purportedly occurs with the awakening of the 6th chakra (Ajna), this is realization of the 'Self' as made in the 'image of God', MMY use to call it a milestone in evolution, but still just the beginning. MMY describes it thus, The silence which is experienced in cosmic consciousness, and which separates the Self from activity, is on an infinitely smaller scale, for it is on the level of individual existence. CH VI vs3. Gita God Realization is the advanced stage of...cosmic consciousness or realization of GOD (immanent in all of creation) as the Self. This is the macro reflection of God IN creation whereas Self-Realization is the micro reflection of God in man, beyond them both is Unity or Brahman encompassing both the relative, manifest and absolute, unmanifest spheres of life. MMY says: The one (GC) forms the basis of the activity of the *whole* of *creation*, the other (CC) the basis (only) of individual activity. Gita With the awakening of the 7th Chakra or crown chakra full Unity is achieved or Nirvikalpa Samadhi; Purnam adah, Purnam idam, inner and outer fullness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger You can think what you want --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs - - to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: This discussion is so twisted in its logic. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Israel does. So why are people creating fictional scenarios of Iran nuking Israel? 1) Because all indications are that, like North Korea before them, as they are with full speed ahead enriching uranium and only claiming it is for use in generating electricity that, in reality, they are doing it to make nuclear bombs; and 2) Because, time and time and yet time again, the elected representative of the Iranians, Mr. Ahmedehejad, has said that Israel will be wiped off the map. *** Ahmadinejad did not say that he was going to destroy Israel -- the more reasonable translation of what he was saying was that the name of Israel is not going to be on future maps of the Middle East, and I'm quite sure that will happen within a generation or two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel It's the ultimate hypocrisy for the U.S. to OK Israel's enormous cache of nuclear weapons while insisting that other countries do not have the same right to WMD to assert their national interests, and as noted in another post, the U.S. has had to back down on this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
Hey Curtis, Do I really need to respond to someone who labels me a murder loving creep warmonger, neo-con, hey throw in Nazi while he's at? Didn't you know Curtis, all along that I'm part of the great Cabal to ruin all life and limb for personal gain? I bet you didn't know that I made billions while at Avon Park? Or was that a $50 stipend? Too much rounding at the time. Take care Signed Murder loving Creep who loves War! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: This discussion is so twisted in its logic. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Israel does. So why are people creating fictional scenarios of Iran nuking Israel? 1) Because all indications are that, like North Korea before
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
-No worries Edg, I can be swarmy and sarcastic, I didn't like what Bob wrote, it struck something inside and I said what I said. Common you think I want war? Nuclear War? Countries in the middle east can be wiped out with 1/2 a bomb. I do believe that people of certain faiths would like to see major damage inflicted on the US and allies. Go and sin no more! :) that's a joke Edg -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sgrayatlarge, I sincerely apologize for suggesting that you are a pro-war poster. I was entirely wrong -- I was flat out wrong. I beg your forgiveness, and I hope my other posts here will have convinced you that I was doing one of my shoot from the hip at 120 words per minute thingies, and that we probably see eye to eye on humanitarian issues. As a punishment, if you desire, I will refrain from posting here for any amount of time you decree -- even banning me forever. I simply fucked up big time, and if I'm willing to ban the War Monger, surely, I must be subject to the same verdict if you see fit. I have deleted the offensive post as a very small token. Edg curtisdeltablues wrote: Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade...This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. Curtis, I just now reread all of sgrayatlarge's last twenty posts, and I WAS WRONG. Don't know why I got him confused with other War Mongers here, but I did -- his post had something smarmy and I took it as a willingness to bomb Iran. Some days, I'm like this, and GAWD GAWD GAWD. If Sgrayatlarge bans me, nice knowing ya, folks! Edg no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: See HYPERLINK http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:EEStorehttp://peswiki.com/i ndex.php /Directory:EEStore Very exciting if true. 5 minutes to recharge...several hundred miles on a charge. Well, that changes everything. Good-bye OPEC. So many exciting things around: the thing linked above, Lunar Helium Three, Plug-in Hybrids. Makes one think that there is an intelligence shortage rather than an oil shortage... Speaking of lack of intelligence, how's that dumbass cakewalk Iraq war of yours going? What's that?...You say you lost the war? Oh, sorry to hear that, but hey, everyone knew you wouldexcept you of course. OffWorld How's that lawsuit against new.morning coming? I won. Thanks for asking. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
snip I bet you didn't know that I made billions while at Avon Park? Or was that a $50 stipend? Per YEAR! Too much rounding at the time. Take care Signed Murder loving Creep who loves War! I guess this wouldn't be a good time to bring up the babies we used at Avon Park for fertilizer to give those snapdragons those brilliant colors. Man, nothing brings out the subtle shades of commercial flowers better than fresh babies! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: This discussion is so twisted in its logic. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Israel
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving
Fortunately, $150,000 has already been received and spent for their passports and visas, so only $660,000 remains to cover the costs of their arrival. My favorite line! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded Message From: Raja Wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:09:35 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that there are now more than 600 Vedic Pandits in Maharishi Vedic City and on the Maharishi University of Management campus, and another 450 Vedic Pandits in India have assembled and are ready to come immediately. When this new group arrives there will be 2,000 yogic flyers in the morning and 2,200 in the evening on a regular basis on the Invincible America Assembly, significantly more than the 1740 required to create and maintain invincibility for America. Even during holidays and student vacations the Invincible America Assembly should be able to remain above 1740 for both morning and evening programs. The arrival of this next group of 450 Vedic Pandits will therefore finally crown America with permnent invincibility. Without the existing 600 Vedic Pandits, there would only be 1100 Yogic Fliers on the Invincible America Assembly. The foresight of thousands of donors supporting the arrival of the Vedic Pandits have brought America to this most fortunate situation. In order for these next 450 Vedic Pandits to come to America two things need to happen: 1.$1,800 per Vedic Pandit in upfront costs are necessary to cover the issuance of passports, visas, air and ground transportation, clothing, linens, and personal suppliesa total of $810,000. Fortunately, $150,000 has already been received and spent for their passports and visas, so only $660,000 remains to cover the costs of their arrival. 2. More housing needs to be built this spring. The Vedic Pandits have figured out how to house an additional 250 Pandits on their two campuses by tripling Pandits, saying that Maharishi had given them the job of creating invincibility for America and until more housing is built they will invite the arriving Pandits to stay with them. Maharishi had told them these are war time conditions in America and they could squeeze more Pandits into each house if necessary until enough housing could be built for them to be one Pandit per room Fortunately this is the season for construction in Maharishi Vedic City, and every $120,000 of additional donations or loans will provide a comfortable house for 16 Pandits; $1.2 million will provide housing for 160 Vedic Pandits, and $4.8 million will cover the cost of all 640 Pandits who are coming here and who are currently living on the MUM campus. In this way all 1,050 Vedic Pandits and their cooks will be living together on one Maharishi Sthapatya Veda campus of 80 acres built especially for them. Maharishi Sthapatya Veda homes, modularly built in a factory with non-toxic materials, can be erected very quickly, and many can arrive in one day. Within three months, if the money is there, all the Pandits will be together and in the meantime they will be housing their arriving colleagues in their existing homes. So what is needed is $660,000 to bring the 450 Vedic Pandits to Maharishi Vedic City, and $4.8 million in either donations or loans to build the additional housing. Many people must be interested to invest in this housing, help create invincibility for America, earn a good return, and be paid back over 10 years. Since the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America covers most of the Pandits' monthly operating costs, including repaying mortgages, the loans to build this campus will be comfortably repaid through grants and donations. The Foundation can by its by-laws contribute to operating costs of $700 per month per Pandit, but can not contribute to upfront costs or construction costs. Please help bring this last group of Vedic Pandits to America by donating now to either Global Country of World Peace HYPERLINK http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f;http://shopping.ne tsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f or Maharishi Vedic City. https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi These links will provide you with all the information necessary to contribute on-line, by mail, or by telephone. And if you or someone you know is interested in lending the funds for the construction please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 312 324 0291. Since each house for 16 Vedic Pandits costs $120,000, it would be best if each loan were for at least one house, but of course, 10 houses or the full 40 houses would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for creating permanent Invincibility for America. Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne Mayor of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
Nice recovery Edg. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sgrayatlarge, I sincerely apologize for suggesting that you are a pro-war poster. I was entirely wrong -- I was flat out wrong. I beg your forgiveness, and I hope my other posts here will have convinced you that I was doing one of my shoot from the hip at 120 words per minute thingies, and that we probably see eye to eye on humanitarian issues. As a punishment, if you desire, I will refrain from posting here for any amount of time you decree -- even banning me forever. I simply fucked up big time, and if I'm willing to ban the War Monger, surely, I must be subject to the same verdict if you see fit. I have deleted the offensive post as a very small token. Edg curtisdeltablues wrote: Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade...This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. Curtis, I just now reread all of sgrayatlarge's last twenty posts, and I WAS WRONG. Don't know why I got him confused with other War Mongers here, but I did -- his post had something smarmy and I took it as a willingness to bomb Iran. Some days, I'm like this, and GAWD GAWD GAWD. If Sgrayatlarge bans me, nice knowing ya, folks! Edg no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving
On Apr 25, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote: So what is needed is $660,000 to bring the 450 Vedic Pandits to Maharishi Vedic City, and $4.8 million in either donations or loans to build the additional housing. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just arm the whole town with guns and ammo? Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I bet you didn't know that I made billions while at Avon Park? Or was that a $50 stipend? Per YEAR! Too much rounding at the time. Take care Signed Murder loving Creep who loves War! I guess this wouldn't be a good time to bring up the babies we used at Avon Park for fertilizer to give those snapdragons those brilliant colors. Man, nothing brings out the subtle shades of commercial flowers better than fresh babies! On the other hand, nothing brings out the true essence of babies better than a good Bechamel sauce.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving
On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote: More housing needs to be built this spring. The Vedic Pandits have figured out how to house an additional 250 Pandits on their two campuses by tripling Pandits They could also house additional pandits by putting some on the roof, in the closets, the hallways, the refrigerators, under the beds, up the chimneys, etc. There's probably no end to what they could come up with using a little Vedic ingenuity. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Curtis, Do I really need to respond to someone who labels me a murder loving creep warmonger, neo-con, hey throw in Nazi while he's at? Didn't you know Curtis, all along that I'm part of the great Cabal to ruin all life and limb for personal gain? As the officially designated murder-loving creep, Shemp McGurk, may I welcome you to the club. Perhaps, together, we can determine which areas of the Third World are most deserving of America's and Haliburton's bombs. I bet you didn't know that I made billions while at Avon Park? Or was that a $50 stipend? Too much rounding at the time. Take care Signed Murder loving Creep who loves War! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: See HYPERLINK http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:EEStorehttp://peswiki.com/i ndex.php /Directory:EEStore Very exciting if true. 5 minutes to recharge...several hundred miles on a charge. Well, that changes everything. Good-bye OPEC. So many exciting things around: the thing linked above, Lunar Helium Three, Plug-in Hybrids. Makes one think that there is an intelligence shortage rather than an oil shortage... Speaking of lack of intelligence, how's that dumbass cakewalk Iraq war of yours going? What's that?...You say you lost the war? Oh, sorry to hear that, but hey, everyone knew you wouldexcept you of course. OffWorld How's that lawsuit against new.morning coming? I won. Thanks for asking. Great! Glad to hear it. And how's that campaign for president for Ron Paul going?
[FairfieldLife] Why do we live: An inquiry and call for celebration
Dear Friends, This is my priviledge to ask for your support in this inquiry. It is the part of my current project to have expressions toward this inquiry from people from different parts of the world. Would appreciate your response and expressions around this. I have written a brief about this enquiry, which might be helpful to go little deeper into the inquiry. Why do we live: An inquiry and call for celebration The question 'why do we live?' creates a space for a deep inquiry touching the core being of we human beings. An inquiry to the whole possible purpose of our own existence, the whole being, which, we experience right now, right here. If we were to get a pattern of the questions and answers derived out of this inquiry, possibly we could point to the various ways of our being in life. None of the ways of being could be classified as right or wrong as all are just ways of being. Inside of one way of being, the other ways of being is simply not possible as any way of being is whole and complete in itself. Each and every way of being is uniquely displayed on this planet. Most of the time in our lifetime, we as human beings are usually not present to our own ways of being. The reason being, we are so much occupied in doing and having results. This way we live as doing and having and again doing more and having more. We may call this phenomenon as human-doing and human-having, however, we call ourselves human-being. This inquiry offers an opportunity to inquire about why do we live as a human-being which is beyond our existing obvious pattern of living inside the never ending cycle of human-doing and human-having. The inquiry creates and presents a possibility of our experiences of what we experience/ want to experience as human beings. Thanks, OP - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Aurora Borealis in Siberia
Some beautiful photos of emerald aurora borealis taken in Siberia and found at a Russian language website. Worth a look. http://evendym.livejournal.com/46993.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I bet you didn't know that I made billions while at Avon Park? Or was that a $50 stipend? Per YEAR! Too much rounding at the time. Take care Signed Murder loving Creep who loves War! I guess this wouldn't be a good time to bring up the babies we used at Avon Park for fertilizer to give those snapdragons those brilliant colors. Man, nothing brings out the subtle shades of commercial flowers better than fresh babies! ..a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, raosted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout. -- Johathan Swift --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, $150,000 has already been received and spent for their passports and visas, so only $660,000 remains to cover the costs of their arrival. My favorite line! It's right up there with the one explaining how a million dollars that some donator had given to the Movement got lost in a wire transfer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: -- Forwarded Message From: Raja Wynne maillist@ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:09:35 -0500 To: homeonthefarm@ Subject: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that there are now more than 600 Vedic Pandits in Maharishi Vedic City and on the Maharishi University of Management campus, and another 450 Vedic Pandits in India have assembled and are ready to come immediately. When this new group arrives there will be 2,000 yogic flyers in the morning and 2,200 in the evening on a regular basis on the Invincible America Assembly, significantly more than the 1740 required to create and maintain invincibility for America. Even during holidays and student vacations the Invincible America Assembly should be able to remain above 1740 for both morning and evening programs. The arrival of this next group of 450 Vedic Pandits will therefore finally crown America with permnent invincibility. Without the existing 600 Vedic Pandits, there would only be 1100 Yogic Fliers on the Invincible America Assembly. The foresight of thousands of donors supporting the arrival of the Vedic Pandits have brought America to this most fortunate situation. In order for these next 450 Vedic Pandits to come to America two things need to happen: 1. $1,800 per Vedic Pandit in upfront costs are necessary to cover the issuance of passports, visas, air and ground transportation, clothing, linens, and personal suppliesa total of $810,000. Fortunately, $150,000 has already been received and spent for their passports and visas, so only $660,000 remains to cover the costs of their arrival. 2. More housing needs to be built this spring. The Vedic Pandits have figured out how to house an additional 250 Pandits on their two campuses by tripling Pandits, saying that Maharishi had given them the job of creating invincibility for America and until more housing is built they will invite the arriving Pandits to stay with them. Maharishi had told them these are war time conditions in America and they could squeeze more Pandits into each house if necessary until enough housing could be built for them to be one Pandit per room Fortunately this is the season for construction in Maharishi Vedic City, and every $120,000 of additional donations or loans will provide a comfortable house for 16 Pandits; $1.2 million will provide housing for 160 Vedic Pandits, and $4.8 million will cover the cost of all 640 Pandits who are coming here and who are currently living on the MUM campus. In this way all 1,050 Vedic Pandits and their cooks will be living together on one Maharishi Sthapatya Veda campus of 80 acres built especially for them. Maharishi Sthapatya Veda homes, modularly built in a factory with non-toxic materials, can be erected very quickly, and many can arrive in one day. Within three months, if the money is there, all the Pandits will be together and in the meantime they will be housing their arriving colleagues in their existing homes. So what is needed is $660,000 to bring the 450 Vedic Pandits to Maharishi Vedic City, and $4.8 million in either donations or loans to build the additional housing. Many people must be interested to invest in this housing, help create invincibility for America, earn a good return, and be paid back over 10 years. Since the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America covers most of the Pandits' monthly operating costs, including repaying mortgages, the loans to build this campus will be comfortably repaid through grants and donations. The Foundation can by its by-laws contribute to operating costs of $700 per month per Pandit, but can not contribute to upfront costs or construction costs. Please help bring this last group of Vedic Pandits to America by donating now to either Global Country of World Peace HYPERLINK http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f;http://sho pping.ne tsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f or Maharishi Vedic City. https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi These links will provide you with all the information necessary to contribute on-line, by mail, or by telephone. And if you or someone you know is interested in lending the funds for the construction please
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice recovery Edg. What about ME? I'm the one who lost a potential comrade-in-arms in the murder-loving and war-loving department? Have some fucking sympathy for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, I sincerely apologize for suggesting that you are a pro-war poster. I was entirely wrong -- I was flat out wrong. I beg your forgiveness, and I hope my other posts here will have convinced you that I was doing one of my shoot from the hip at 120 words per minute thingies, and that we probably see eye to eye on humanitarian issues. As a punishment, if you desire, I will refrain from posting here for any amount of time you decree -- even banning me forever. I simply fucked up big time, and if I'm willing to ban the War Monger, surely, I must be subject to the same verdict if you see fit. I have deleted the offensive post as a very small token. Edg curtisdeltablues wrote: Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade...This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. Curtis, I just now reread all of sgrayatlarge's last twenty posts, and I WAS WRONG. Don't know why I got him confused with other War Mongers here, but I did -- his post had something smarmy and I took it as a willingness to bomb Iran. Some days, I'm like this, and GAWD GAWD GAWD. If Sgrayatlarge bans me, nice knowing ya, folks! Edg no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: what is the relationship of biosfuels to FFL? What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Where do you live? Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as many others pursuing various spiritual paths. What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, Topics of interest to seekers? Well I find biofuels interesting. And I doubt any stuff about the election would find it's way here if we're going to be TM strict about it. As for the other stuff I post, I guess it depends where you think truth may lie. And there's the problem, If science has shown us anything it's that truth is a bit of a moving target, what you expect to be true often turns out to be nothing of the sort. The TMO makes great claims to be interested in science, but are they really? I don't remember any experiments into yagyas in the collected papers. They like it when it suits them, and I'm only too happy to point that out. To be honest Bertrand Russel didn't have meditation in mind when he made the remark above, quite the opposite actually, it's a call to remove the blinkers religion puts on us. The TMO is a religion so lets take an objective look at it and see what stands up. Which is why I post the stuff I do, it's good to challenge beliefs, if something can't withstand a bit of probing why call it Truth. Personally, I think the TM experience is good but the explantion is 5000 years out of date, or is it? To me, that's what seeking the truth is all about. If you're happy accepting the TM dogma and never asking questions, fine, we're all different. Interestingly, the term spiritual comes from the latin *spiritus animus* or That Which Animates Us. So I consider myself spiritual because I want to know if the mind is just a machine that evolved (the most likely option so far) and if it's functioning can be improved using meditation or anything else that comes along. If it turns out to be something else, I'm just as happy. Take what you need and leave the rest I enjoy reading your stuff and thanks for writing this post. Your insights are interesting and well presented. While I don't always agree with your POV, your posts strike some form of resonance with me. This certainly applies to a number of other people who post on this forum. The diversity, different POVs, and eclectic topics are often quite out of the realm of what I would find in day to day discussions in my world. Curtis's humor and Turq's RoadTrip stories are examples of posts that often cause me to stop and be mindful for a moment of things and a POV that I would not have discovered had I not taken a bit of my day to read FFL. Britain is a long way from Iowa, as is Spain and the DC area. Isn't it interesting how on some intellectual level, the resonance still occurs even accounting for widely diverse topics? Heat does seem to occur at times. Inevitable when strong opinions are held. The discourse seems to right itself without much intervention. The posting limit perhaps adds to this.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
While I will admit that my interpretation may be incorrect, you yourself seem to be projecting the anger. There is no anger in my feelings toward Hillary Clinton as a candidate for POTUS. I do, however, have antipathy towards the methods she feels are acceptable in running for the office. I also feel the country would suffer greatly from her gaining the position she so desperately desires. I always found it false when some Hollywood folks in 2000 and 2004 said they were moving out of the US should their candidate fail. They never did. The general election is several months away. Should Mrs. Clinton be on the ticket, even as VP, I would find myself unable to support it in any way. I know full well what voting for Ralph Nader would really be a vote for and would live with that choice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or possibly, using the Ochams Razor approach, she just feels that she still has a chance. Of course if you subscribe to this theory you have to eliminate all the subterfuge, conspiracy, cloak and dagger reasons. From one who doesn't have a strong attachment to either candidate the Barak supporters seem to be straining like a difficult bowel movement to GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE. GODDAMNIT, I WANT HER OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REST OF ELECTORATE THINK. DAMN THE ELECTORATE. I WANT THAT BITCH OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: What many people have been saying for a while now... Many of us have been speculating for weeks now that since the nomination is out of reach, Hillary's main objective is to clobber Obama enough so that he won't beat McCain, thus preserving her viability for 2012. And now the top-ranking African-American congressman from South Carolina is saying just that. Undoubtedly he's one of the few with the guts to say what should be pretty obvious to anyone paying even a tiny bit of attention. http://tinyurl.com/4vh5sr
[FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 25, 2008, at 7:27 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Or possibly, using the Ochams Razor approach, she just feels that she still has a chance. Of course if you subscribe to this theory you have to eliminate all the subterfuge, conspiracy, cloak and dagger reasons. From one who doesn't have a strong attachment to either candidate the Barak supporters seem to be straining like a difficult bowel movement to GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE. GODDAMNIT, I WANT HER OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REST OF ELECTORATE THINK. DAMN THE ELECTORATE. I WANT THAT BITCH OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. lurk, have you ever considered the possibility that you have a lot of unresolved anger issues? Sal bowing You go girl.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
Kinda amazing isn't is? And done with a self-righteousness that knows no bounds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to know what's behind all the geo-political hotspots Bob, do you secretly work for the CIA? Wouldn't you love it Bob if Israel just went away? All the world's problems would be solved then right? You are the only one I know who can make a billion people look like victims. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: A little Obama sabor rattling? Let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will. - Barack Obama Last time I checked President Musharraf was president of Pakistan, an ally of the US. Now I can sleep well at night knowing that Obama means business *** The reason why Musharraf and other Paki leaders don't want to capture Bin Laden and his associates is the U.S. would drop Pakistan like a hot rock once that happened, instead of handing over billions in aid as long as the bogeyman is on the loose. A guy with the name Obama desperately needs to distance himself from his Islamic namesakes, so this is truly just sabre rattling -- if Barack were to make it into the White House (not a chance in hell), he would not follow up on these empty threats. Killing off a few leaders here and there does nothing to stop antagonism that U.S. and Israel policies have created around the Muslim/Arab world, so it's not a sign of weakness to abandon silly manhunts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) so Clinton's threat obviously is intended to garner support among the pro-Zionist factions in the U.S. (fundies probably even more important than Jews in this regard): (snip) This is why I see Obama's Presidency as so important, for this one issue if nothing else. Because both Hillary and McCain are carrying water for this kind of war- posturing... And I am afraid, at this point, we have to deal with our enemy's in a civilized way. There is a peace movement in Israel, as I am sure there is one in Iran. There is a peace movement here also... Trouble is, people are a bit sheep-like, and easily brain- washed, especially when they get into being afraid... Then they want to stick with what's familiar. So, for many older people especially, like we see in Pennsylvania, they just stick with what's familiar... So, unless the peacemakers regain control of these nations, then we will continue playing these very expensive and destructive war- games...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
Kinda quick on the draw, Edg, don't cha think? Hopefully your minds eye is not seeing Sgrayatlarge's skin sliced with razors and then dipped in vinegar. Get some help dude. Perhaps reading the troll from Texas has scarred your fragile psyche. I hope you heal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual problem in Iran either. Thanks for setting the record straight on that great guy who really needs a shave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Defending Ahmadinejad... Classy ** Just as there was a mendacious campaign by neocons to get the country behind the war with Iraq, there has been an attempt to demonize Ahmadinejad by those same neocon elements, in order to justify another war in the Middle East. Think the scheeple are stupid enough to buy this? Personally, I'll pass. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: This discussion is so twisted in its logic. Iran does not have nuclear weapons. Israel does. So why are people creating fictional scenarios of Iran nuking Israel? 1) Because all indications are that, like North Korea before them, as they are with full speed ahead enriching uranium and only claiming it is for use in generating electricity that, in reality, they are doing it to make nuclear bombs; and 2) Because, time and time and yet time again, the elected representative of the Iranians, Mr. Ahmedehejad, has said that Israel will be wiped off the map. *** Ahmadinejad did not say that he was going to destroy Israel -- the more reasonable translation of what he was saying was that the name of Israel is not going to be on future maps of the Middle East, and I'm quite sure that will happen within a generation or two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel It's the ultimate hypocrisy for the U.S. to OK Israel's enormous cache of nuclear weapons while insisting that other countries do not have the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: See HYPERLINK http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:EEStorehttp://peswiki.com/i ndex.php /Directory:EEStore Very exciting if true. 5 minutes to recharge...several hundred miles on a charge. Well, that changes everything. Good-bye OPEC. So many exciting things around: the thing linked above, Lunar Helium Three, Plug-in Hybrids. Makes one think that there is an intelligence shortage rather than an oil shortage... Speaking of lack of intelligence, how's that dumbass cakewalk Iraq war of yours going? What's that?...You say you lost the war? Oh, sorry to hear that, but hey, everyone knew you wouldexcept you of course. OffWorld How's that lawsuit against new.morning coming? I won. Thanks for asking. OffWorld Will any financial proceeds be donated to Benjamin Creme?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
I missed the connection between your post, WillyTex, and this thread. Maybe you replied to this post by mistake? ~ Sincerely from Whaaatzat --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ispiritkin wrote: Slipping into the state of attention is something I have done when doing healing work. I'd like to be able to do this more predictably or more reliably. Right now, it happens kind of by accident, and I don't control it, but when it happens, I notice an incredible amount of heat in the area of my body that I'm applying to do healing, usually my hands. From noticing the effects over several instances, it seems that this is healing energy, and I sure would like to focus it! I have a few ideas based on how it has worked the few times I identified it, but it's a slippery little beastie. For one thing, it seems to be equally dependent on the receptivity of the person I'm working on. Well I think I'm going to puke if I read one more post about Muktanannda's sex shop over in India. You guys need to get some smarts, we've got the best little whorehouses in the country down here in Texas. It was bad enough reading the Marshy sex escapdes in the FFL archives, but I draw the line when you let that little weasel Muk take over the newsgroup. I haven't heard this much gossip since I last visited my local bowling alley. Next you be telling me that a Shetty girl named Swami Chidvilasananda got knowcked up by George Alif and that she had an abortion. This is just outrageous!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I bet you didn't know that I made billions while at Avon Park? Or was that a $50 stipend? Per YEAR! Too much rounding at the time. Take care Signed Murder loving Creep who loves War! I guess this wouldn't be a good time to bring up the babies we used at Avon Park for fertilizer to give those snapdragons those brilliant colors. Man, nothing brings out the subtle shades of commercial flowers better than fresh babies! Curtis, Curtis. Curtis. Edg might not sleep for a week.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do we live: An inquiry and call for celebration
The Governor of California has already answered this question: Conan! What is best in life? To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women! To get serious, let's note that a thread here, An Experiment in Communicating the Principles of Truth, Message #161332, already was tried out -- folks were asked to put into print what was true-for-sure, axiomatic, provable, etc. As usual the FFL apathy showed nothing but silence and a funny snark from Turq. Hell, even I didn't respond...and I'm the one who whines the most about mostly only negative topics generate replies at FFL. To me, Why do we live? is the same as asking, What is truth? Several of your sentences below assume certain facts that would trigger a big percentage of folks here into abject derision -- for instance, you assume that human-being is transcendental to human-doing and human-having. I can hear a mighty retching in the distance. Maharishi gaves an answer that I still validate: Creation is for the expansion of happiness. That is to say, Being is entering a null set despite the illogic of it, despite God's infinite presence everywhere/when, and that a human-being is a process of Being puffing up our otherwise zombie-minds. Something like that. Buckminster Fuller said that he had to tussle long and hard to find a reason not to commit suicide. It was written of him, Standing only 5'2 tall, Buckminster Fuller loomed over the twentieth century. Admirers affectionately call him Bucky, but the name he gave himself was Guinea Pig B. His life, he said, was an experiment. When he was 32, Buckminster Fuller's life seemed hopeless. He was bankrupt and without a job. He was grief stricken over the death of his first child and he had a wife and a newborn to support. Drinking heavily, he contemplated suicide. Instead, he decided decided that his life was not his to throw away: It belonged to the universe. He embarked on an experiment to discover what the little, penniless, unknown individual might be able to do effectively on behalf of all humanity. That holds a lot of water for me. Serve, teach, help, educate, love -- these are all the same to an open heart. Imagine if we taught Bucky's formula in schools? How many smarty-pants kiddies would be funneled into military research then, eh? Another thing from Maharishi: when a guy got up to the mike and said he saw no reason to live and was thinking of killing himself, Maharishi said, When the car jumps the curb and comes at you, that's when you'll know if you want to live or not. To me, that's the level of human-being-doing-having that most folks simply cannot reside at. But that's where we need to look for an answer to your question. So to me, the reason we live is to serve and avoid cars. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, OP Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, This is my priviledge to ask for your support in this inquiry. It is the part of my current project to have expressions toward this inquiry from people from different parts of the world. Would appreciate your response and expressions around this. I have written a brief about this enquiry, which might be helpful to go little deeper into the inquiry. Why do we live: An inquiry and call for celebration The question 'why do we live?' creates a space for a deep inquiry touching the core being of we human beings. An inquiry to the whole possible purpose of our own existence, the whole being, which, we experience right now, right here. If we were to get a pattern of the questions and answers derived out of this inquiry, possibly we could point to the various ways of our being in life. None of the ways of being could be classified as right or wrong as all are just ways of being. Inside of one way of being, the other ways of being is simply not possible as any way of being is whole and complete in itself. Each and every way of being is uniquely displayed on this planet. Most of the time in our lifetime, we as human beings are usually not present to our own ways of being. The reason being, we are so much occupied in doing and having results. This way we live as doing and having and again doing more and having more. We may call this phenomenon as human-doing and human-having, however, we call ourselves human-being. This inquiry offers an opportunity to inquire about why do we live as a human-being which is beyond our existing obvious pattern of living inside the never ending cycle of human-doing and human-having. The inquiry creates and presents a possibility of our experiences of what we experience/ want to experience as human beings. Thanks, OP - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving
Rick please give me a Tel call @ Ur convent time of choice 716-688-7686 In a message dated 4/25/2008 12:59:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Forwarded Message From: Raja Wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:09:35 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - 450 more are arriving Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that there are now more than 600 Vedic Pandits in Maharishi Vedic City and on the Maharishi University of Management campus, and another 450 Vedic Pandits in India have assembled and are ready to come immediately. When this new group arrives there will be 2,000 yogic flyers in the morning and 2,200 in the evening on a regular basis on the Invincible America Assembly, significantly more than the 1740 required to create and maintain invincibility for America. Even during holidays and student vacations the Invincible America Assembly should be able to remain above 1740 for both morning and evening programs. The arrival of this next group of 450 Vedic Pandits will therefore finally crown America with permnent invincibility. Without the existing 600 Vedic Pandits, there would only be 1100 Yogic Fliers on the Invincible America Assembly. The foresight of thousands of donors supporting the arrival of the Vedic Pandits have brought America to this most fortunate situation. In order for these next 450 Vedic Pandits to come to America two things need to happen: 1. $1,800 per Vedic Pandit in upfront costs are necessary to cover the issuance of passports, visas, air and ground transportation, clothing, linens, and personal supplies—a total of $810,000. Fortunately, $150,000 has already been received and spent for their passports and visas, so only $660,000 remains to cover the costs of their arrival. 2. More housing needs to be built this spring. The Vedic Pandits have figured out how to house an additional 250 Pandits on their two campuses by tripling Pandits, saying that Maharishi had given them the job of creating invincibility for America and until more housing is built they will invite the arriving Pandits to stay with them. Maharishi had told them these are war time conditions in America and they could squeeze more Pandits into each house if necessary until enough housing could be built for them to be one Pandit per room Fortunately this is the season for construction in Maharishi Vedic City, and every $120,000 of additional donations or loans will provide a comfortable house for 16 Pandits; $1.2 million will provide housing for 160 Vedic Pandits, and $4.8 million will cover the cost of all 640 Pandits who are coming here and who are currently living on the MUM campus. In this way all 1,050 Vedic Pandits and their cooks will be living together on one Maharishi Sthapatya Veda campus of 80 acres built especially for them. Maharishi Sthapatya Veda homes, modularly built in a factory with non-toxic materials, can be erected very quickly, and many can arrive in one day. Within three months, if the money is there, all the Pandits will be together and in the meantime they will be housing their arriving colleagues in their existing homes. So what is needed is $660,000 to bring the 450 Vedic Pandits to Maharishi Vedic City, and $4.8 million in either donations or loans to build the additional housing. Many people must be interested to invest in this housing, help create invincibility for America, earn a good return, and be paid back over 10 years. Since the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America covers most of the Pandits’ monthly operating costs, including repaying mortgages, the loans to build this campus will be comfortably repaid through grants and donations. The Foundation can by its by-laws contribute to operating costs of $700 per month per Pandit, but can not contribute to upfront costs or construction costs. Please help bring this last group of Vedic Pandits to America by donating now to either Global Country of World Peace _http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f_ (http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f) or Maharishi Vedic City. https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi These links will provide you with all the information necessary to contribute on-line, by mail, or by telephone. And if you or someone you know is interested in lending the funds for the construction please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 312 324 0291. Since each house for 16 Vedic Pandits costs $120,000, it would be best if each loan were for at least one house, but of course, 10 houses or the full 40 houses would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for creating permanent Invincibility for America. Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
ispiritkin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu wrote: My training is from a tantric samrat of the Kali tradition. I am now at the level of Sidh tantric which means I have mastered the tantric siddhis which are all given by mantra. These include the vashikaran, stambhan, uchattan, shanti, videshan and maran siddhis. snip None of these have anything to do with sex snip My experience with vashikaran was the day after getting the first mantra for it everyone I encountered in like store clerks even if cranky mellowed out when I dealt with them. It's been that way ever since. It would be nice if it worked over the internet. :) Fascinating. Yes, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over the internet, esp this group. =) Heck, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over a town hall meeting. I'm just a grasshopper at all this, and so far my approach has been eclectic and basically non-path, I guess. Proly some focus would help things along a bit faster. Do you think the mantra, the chant itself, does work, or is it a tool for focusing attention? You've probably written quite a bit on this already, but I didn't connect earlier posts with a specific approach, and I'm interested in knowing more about this one. My notion is that the attention is the important thing, not how it is evoked, but that some methods are more efficient at evoking that attention. The mantra siddhis are based on nada yoga which is the yogic science of sound. Like an externalized sound and internalized sound reverberates and can also cause sympathetic vibrations. The vashikaran mantra set up a sympathetic vibration even when I was not practicing it (which I only did during my program) that had an effect on the people I was coming into contact with. The stambhan siddhi I have used to shut up people who wanted to talk in a theater during a movie. Very handy. I don't know what they felt but maybe just a sudden self consciousness that they were talking which was annoying others. Again the transmitted vibe would have communicated that. As for attention, remember I said I didn't really do anything to get the vashikaran technique to work. Once learned and practiced it was just part of me from then on. I do have some other vashikaran techniques that require a target and therefore attention. It is important to get information from people who actually practice the techniques. I'm also a professional musician and have taught music too. I often find it interesting and humorous what people who have never learned to play an instrument tell me what it is like to play one. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: what is the relationship of biosfuels to FFL? What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Where do you live? Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as many others pursuing various spiritual paths. What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, Topics of interest to seekers? Well I find biofuels interesting. And I doubt any stuff about the election would find it's way here if we're going to be TM strict about it. As for the other stuff I post, I guess it depends where you think truth may lie. And there's the problem, If science has shown us anything it's that truth is a bit of a moving target, what you expect to be true often turns out to be nothing of the sort. The TMO makes great claims to be interested in science, but are they really? I don't remember any experiments into yagyas in the collected papers. They like it when it suits them, and I'm only too happy to point that out. To be honest Bertrand Russel didn't have meditation in mind when he made the remark above, quite the opposite actually, it's a call to remove the blinkers religion puts on us. The TMO is a religion so lets take an objective look at it and see what stands up. Which is why I post the stuff I do, it's good to challenge beliefs, if something can't withstand a bit of probing why call it Truth. Personally, I think the TM experience is good but the explantion is 5000 years out of date, or is it? To me, that's what seeking the truth is all about. If you're happy accepting the TM dogma and never asking questions, fine, we're all different. Interestingly, the term spiritual comes from the latin *spiritus animus* or That Which Animates Us. So I consider myself spiritual because I want to know if the mind is just a machine that evolved (the most likely option so far) and if it's functioning can be improved using meditation or anything else that comes along. If it turns out to be something else, I'm just as happy. Take what you need and leave the rest I enjoy reading your stuff and thanks for writing this post. Your insights are interesting and well presented. While I don't always agree with your POV, your posts strike some form of resonance with me. This certainly applies to a number of other people who post on this forum. The diversity, different POVs, and eclectic topics are often quite out of the realm of what I would find in day to day discussions in my world. Curtis's humor and Turq's RoadTrip stories are examples of posts that often cause me to stop and be mindful for a moment of things and a POV that I would not have discovered had I not taken a bit of my day to read FFL. Britain is a long way from Iowa, as is Spain and the DC area. Isn't it interesting how on some intellectual level, the resonance still occurs even accounting for widely diverse topics? Heat does seem to occur at times. Inevitable when strong opinions are held. The discourse seems to right itself without much intervention. The posting limit perhaps adds to this. Thanks for the vote of confidence Satvadude, I'll keep tapping away then. Or at least until Rick gets fed up with dinosaurs and telepathic dogs! I agree with all you say about FFL, it's a mighty fine site indeed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
dhamiltony2k5 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now, the biofuel market is being grossly distorted by subsidies and trade barriers in the United States and the European Union. These make it rewarding to produce ethanol from corn or grains that are far less productive than sugarcane ethanol, divert land from food production (unlike sugarcane), and have dubious environmental credentials. What sense does it make to have a surplus of environmentally friendly Brazilian sugar-based ethanol with a yield eight times higher than U.S. corn ethanol and zero impact on food prices being kept from an American market by a tariff of 54 cents on a gallon while Iowan corn ethanol gets a subsidy? It would make a lot more sense to drop the tariff, drop the subsidy, and allow Brazilian ethanol into the United States, said Philippe Reichstul, the chief executive of a biofuel company in São Paulo. Pressure on U.S. land will be slashed. The United States and Europe should maintain their biofuel targets. Pressure to scrap a European plan for renewable fuels to supply a tenth of all vehicle fuel by 2020 must be resisted while rethinking the policies that favor the wrong biofuels. The real scam lies in developed world protectionism and skewed subsidies, not the biofuel idea. more http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/opinion/24cohen.html Om, on the verge of a major re-luanch here in FF, what is the relationship of biosfuels to FFL? What spam is this? I kind of expect this kind unrelated stuff that could be read on CNN or FOX from Richard or Willytex. What up? How's it relate to FF or, FFL? Where do you live? You don't guy gas? You don't use electrical energy? We'd be very interested in how you could connect to FFL? Everything is connected and interrelated. If you don't like FFL start your own Yahoo Group .. and see if anyone shows up. :D :D :D :D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
On Apr 25, 2008, at 2:04 PM, satvadude108 wrote: On Apr 25, 2008, at 7:27 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Or possibly, using the Ochams Razor approach, she just feels that she still has a chance. Of course if you subscribe to this theory you have to eliminate all the subterfuge, conspiracy, cloak and dagger reasons. From one who doesn't have a strong attachment to either candidate the Barak supporters seem to be straining like a difficult bowel movement to GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE. GODDAMNIT, I WANT HER OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REST OF ELECTORATE THINK. DAMN THE ELECTORATE. I WANT THAT BITCH OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. lurk, have you ever considered the possibility that you have a lot of unresolved anger issues? Sal bowing You go girl. Sat, actually I was kind of baffled by lurk's response. I don't get that feeling at all from the Obama campaign, and I'm a little surprised that he does, hence my comment. (And in fact, the only time I've heard Hill referred to in such unkind terms was from the MCcain campaign, and McCain just laughed it off.) But the kind of ruthlessness lurk is conjuring up is, IMO, in his mind. Just wait till Judy gets back, though--she'll set us all straight. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Aurora Borealis in Siberia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some beautiful photos of emerald aurora borealis taken in Siberia and found at a Russian language website. Worth a look. http://evendym.livejournal.com/46993.html Definitely worth a look, something I've always wanted to see for real. Did you know the friction caused by it actually helps slow the earth down? Not by much, but measurably and they will have to keep adding extra seconds to the clocks to make up for it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
Agreed. Makes me wish I hadn't written my earlier message. Piling on is a drag. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice recovery Edg. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, I sincerely apologize for suggesting that you are a pro-war poster. I was entirely wrong -- I was flat out wrong. I beg your forgiveness, and I hope my other posts here will have convinced you that I was doing one of my shoot from the hip at 120 words per minute thingies, and that we probably see eye to eye on humanitarian issues. As a punishment, if you desire, I will refrain from posting here for any amount of time you decree -- even banning me forever. I simply fucked up big time, and if I'm willing to ban the War Monger, surely, I must be subject to the same verdict if you see fit. I have deleted the offensive post as a very small token. Edg curtisdeltablues wrote: Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade...This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. Curtis, I just now reread all of sgrayatlarge's last twenty posts, and I WAS WRONG. Don't know why I got him confused with other War Mongers here, but I did -- his post had something smarmy and I took it as a willingness to bomb Iran. Some days, I'm like this, and GAWD GAWD GAWD. If Sgrayatlarge bans me, nice knowing ya, folks! Edg no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. Edg, Aside from the fact that Steve is a great guy who doesn't deserve a tirade... This perspective on terrorism is a myth. None of the 9-11 hijackers were poor. I'm all for human aid to poor countries but trying to link this to the war on terror has been proven to be bogus. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Sgrayatlarge, You've been posting way too many supportive-to-war pieces here lately, so yeah, I'm thinking you're a murder loving creep like Shemp and the War Monger. Tell us all plainly: do you discount the carnage on children and innocents like FFL's resident War Monger does -- is such carnage acceptable to you for the imagined political gains? Would you cheer if Hillary nukes Iran? Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs -- to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? I'm no lover of burkas etc., in fact, of all the major religions, I find Islam to be the one that most disgusts me, but I find every religion generally to be immorally power-seeking, but to ignore what has been done in the past to alienate the Muslim nations is to be, in fact, a collaborationist for BigBiz. War itself must be demonized, and that means that only extraordinary peace-supporting efforts would do when it comes to international politics. An example of extraordinary effort would be: making sure no child IN THE ENTIRE WORLD dies because of dirty water, bad nutrition, etc. Only with such measures can we ever hope to mend the fences and let the dark memories fade over the decades. Failing this, the third world will continue to produce terroristsand thus the war profiteers will have their windfall profits. How you respond to this post is critical in that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. Do you have the guts to plainly tell us that killing children for oil doesn't bother you? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Oh right, that big campaign by the neocons and you know what their is no homosexual
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Pandit Update #6 - with pictures included
[Global Country of World Peace] Dear Supporters of the Vedic Pandits Creating Invincibility for America, It is a great joy to announce that there are now more than 600 Vedic Pandits in Maharishi Vedic City and on the Maharishi University of Management campus, and another 450 Vedic Pandits in India have assembled and are ready to come immediately. When this new group arrives there will be 2,000 yogic flyers in the morning and 2,200 in the evening on a regular basis on the Invincible America Assembly, significantly more than the 1740 required to create and maintain invincibility for America. Even during holidays and student vacations the Invincible America Assembly should be able to remain above 1740 for both morning and evening programs. The arrival of this next group of 450 Vedic Pandits will therefore finally crown America with permnent invincibility. Without the existing 600 Vedic Pandits, there would only be 1100 Yogic Fliers on the Invincible America Assembly. The foresight of thousands of donors supporting the arrival of the Vedic Pandits have brought America to this most fortunate situation. In order for these next 450 Vedic Pandits to come to America two things need to happen: 1. $1,800 per Vedic Pandit in upfront costs are necessary to cover the issuance of passports, visas, air and ground transportation, clothing, linens, and personal suppliesa total of $810,000. Fortunately, $150,000 has already been received and spent for their passports and visas, so only $660,000 remains to cover the costs of their arrival. 2. More housing needs to be built this spring. The Vedic Pandits have figured out how to house an additional 250 Pandits on their two campuses by tripling Pandits, saying that Maharishi had given them the job of creating invincibility for America and until more housing is built they will invite the arriving Pandits to stay with them. Maharishi had told them these are war time conditions in America and they could squeeze more Pandits into each house if necessary until enough housing could be built for them to be one Pandit per room Fortunately this is the season for construction in Maharishi Vedic City, and every $120,000 of additional donations or loans will provide a comfortable house for 16 Pandits; $1.2 million will provide housing for 160 Vedic Pandits, and $4.8 million will cover the cost of all 640 Pandits who are coming here and who are currently living on the MUM campus. In this way all 1,050 Vedic Pandits and their cooks will be living together on one Maharishi Sthapatya Veda campus of 80 acres built especially for them. Maharishi Sthapatya Veda homes, modularly built in a factory with non-toxic materials, can be erected very quickly, and many can arrive in one day. Within three months, if the money is there, all the Pandits will be together and in the meantime they will be housing their arriving colleagues in their existing homes. So what is needed is $660,000 to bring the 450 Vedic Pandits to Maharishi Vedic City, and $4.8 million in either donations or loans to build the additional housing. Many people must be interested to invest in this housing, help create invincibility for America, earn a good return, and be paid back over 10 years. Since the Howard and Alice Settle Foundation for an Invincible America covers most of the Pandits' monthly operating costs, including repaying mortgages, the loans to build this campus will be comfortably repaid through grants and donations. The Foundation can by its by-laws contribute to operating costs of $700 per month per Pandit, but can not contribute to upfront costs or construction costs. Please help bring this last group of Vedic Pandits to America by donating now to either Global Country of World Peace http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.451217/it.A/id.9/.f or Maharishi Vedic City. https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi These links will provide you with all the information necessary to contribute on-line, by mail, or by telephone. And if you or someone you know is interested in lending the funds for the construction please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 1 312 324 0291. Since each house for 16 Vedic Pandits costs $120,000, it would be best if each loan were for at least one house, but of course, 10 houses or the full 40 houses would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for creating permanent Invincibility for America. Jai Guru Dev. Raja Wynne Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City Vedic Pandits in Maharishi Vedic City Existing Pandit Campus in Maharishi Vedic City
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: See HYPERLINK http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:EEStorehttp://peswiki.com/i ndex.php /Directory:EEStore Very exciting if true. 5 minutes to recharge...several hundred miles on a charge. Well, that changes everything. Good-bye OPEC. So many exciting things around: the thing linked above, Lunar Helium Three, Plug-in Hybrids. Makes one think that there is an intelligence shortage rather than an oil shortage... Speaking of lack of intelligence, how's that dumbass cakewalk Iraq war of yours going? What's that?...You say you lost the war? Oh, sorry to hear that, but hey, everyone knew you wouldexcept you of course. OffWorld How's that lawsuit against new.morning coming? I won. Thanks for asking. Great! Glad to hear it. And how's that campaign for president for Ron Paul going? Perhaps the proceeds from the lawsuit could be used to get citizenship for Benjamin Creme so he could be VP on the Ron Paul ticket. Marek might be able to refer a good immigration attorney. Of course the Constitution would need to be changed, but with the Mayatrea workin' on it, it would easily be done. OffWorld's prescience is breathtaking. Or maybe that is just me holding my breath from the stench. I do kinda like lots of Ron Paul's ideas. Sometimes he is off the edge however and is not a viable candidate for POTUS.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Nice recovery Edg. What about ME? I'm the one who lost a potential comrade-in-arms in the murder-loving and war-loving department? Have some fucking sympathy for me. I do. That razor blade and vinegar bit was a bit over the top. Hope ya healed up ok. grin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ispiritkin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu wrote: My training is from a tantric samrat of the Kali tradition. I am now at the level of Sidh tantric which means I have mastered the tantric siddhis which are all given by mantra. These include the vashikaran, stambhan, uchattan, shanti, videshan and maran siddhis. snip None of these have anything to do with sex snip My experience with vashikaran was the day after getting the first mantra for it everyone I encountered in like store clerks even if cranky mellowed out when I dealt with them. It's been that way ever since. It would be nice if it worked over the internet. :) Fascinating. Yes, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over the internet, esp this group. =) Heck, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over a town hall meeting. I'm just a grasshopper at all this, and so far my approach has been eclectic and basically non-path, I guess. Proly some focus would help things along a bit faster. Do you think the mantra, the chant itself, does work, or is it a tool for focusing attention? You've probably written quite a bit on this already, but I didn't connect earlier posts with a specific approach, and I'm interested in knowing more about this one. My notion is that the attention is the important thing, not how it is evoked, but that some methods are more efficient at evoking that attention. The mantra siddhis are based on nada yoga which is the yogic science of sound. Like an externalized sound and internalized sound reverberates and can also cause sympathetic vibrations. The vashikaran mantra set up a sympathetic vibration even when I was not practicing it (which I only did during my program) that had an effect on the people I was coming into contact with. The stambhan siddhi I have used to shut up people who wanted to talk in a theater during a movie. Very handy. I don't know what they felt but maybe just a sudden self consciousness that they were talking which was annoying others. Again the transmitted vibe would have communicated that. As for attention, remember I said I didn't really do anything to get the vashikaran technique to work. Once learned and practiced it was just part of me from then on. I do have some other vashikaran techniques that require a target and therefore attention. It is important to get information from people who actually practice the techniques. I'm also a professional musician and have taught music too. I often find it interesting and humorous what people who have never learned to play an instrument tell me what it is like to play one. :) In all seriousness, I need a better fly-fishing sutra. The one I'm using is hit or miss and Patanjali is no help. Cultivating awareness helps a great deal but I'm searching for a more outward stroke of dynamism. Also, something to get the neighbor's cat to STFU when she is in heat. Thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with all you say about FFL, it's a mighty fine site indeed. Yep, it is a mighty fine site. Sure draws some interesting people on occasion. Time constraints prevent me from following all the treads. Long may it live.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of satvadude108 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid Will any financial proceeds be donated to Benjamin Creme? Speaking of whom, what happened to Nabby? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1397 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 7:42 AM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels? Thanks for the vote of confidence Satvadude, I'll keep tapping away then. Or at least until Rick gets fed up with dinosaurs and telepathic dogs! Fed up?! I live with them. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1397 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 7:42 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: I also have heard, based on solid scriptural authority, that accepting Jesus as your personal savior allows you to enter eternal life in heaven with God and all the angels singing for all eternity in high pitched castrati voices praises for the Almighty Father in his Almightinessinhoodedmentitude. OK, now get your blankies and lie down on your cots and we'll see if someone can tell us the story of the 72 virgins and how we can fall all up into that fer schnizzle! It always come down to sex with you guys. What's up with that? Maybe they think that sex IS love.! First it's the two Barry's and Vaj and their tantric sex magic; then Sal and Radha and Judy all tell you they don't appreciate your excuse for sex abuse. So, why don't you guys take a hint and stop talking about your dicks all the time? Can't you think of anything else to talk about except who is going to get the '72 virgins'?
[FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 25, 2008, at 2:04 PM, satvadude108 wrote: On Apr 25, 2008, at 7:27 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Or possibly, using the Ochams Razor approach, she just feels that she still has a chance. Of course if you subscribe to this theory you have to eliminate all the subterfuge, conspiracy, cloak and dagger reasons. From one who doesn't have a strong attachment to either candidate the Barak supporters seem to be straining like a difficult bowel movement to GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE. GODDAMNIT, I WANT HER OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REST OF ELECTORATE THINK. DAMN THE ELECTORATE. I WANT THAT BITCH OUT, AND I DON'T CARE WHAT IT TAKES. lurk, have you ever considered the possibility that you have a lot of unresolved anger issues? Sal bowing You go girl. Sat, actually I was kind of baffled by lurk's response. I don't get that feeling at all from the Obama campaign, and I'm a little surprised that he does, hence my comment. (And in fact, the only time I've heard Hill referred to in such unkind terms was from the MCcain campaign, and McCain just laughed it off.) But the kind of ruthlessness lurk is conjuring up is, IMO, in his mind. Just wait till Judy gets back, though--she'll set us all straight. :) Sal Your bafflement was a natural reaction Sal. It is in his own mind. I have a different take on McCain than a lot of folks here. Beware demonizing someone automatically when they are the Repub candidate. This mistake has been made over and over by the Dems and inevitably comes from the fringe. That fringe knows nothing about actually getting a candidate elected POTUS. W.J. Clinton, like him or not, knew how to win an election. He also knew how to stiff-arm the fringe and not let them have the ability to color his campaign. Does it ever cross your mind that Bill might not actually want Hillary to win? Yes, I'm sure that Judy will set us all straight. I especially like it when she does it in less that 24 hours. Not that anyone would ever dream of egging her on and then sit back and laugh at the result. I gotta give the sanctimonious old lyin gas bag credit though. She lives by the rules and stops after 50. Speaking of that, how long is Kirk usually gone after a tiff? I worry about that young man. When he is balanced he has somethings to say. The unbalancedness is problematic and presents problems to pay in life. I hope he is doing well and that his quests are joyful.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
Doesn't the fifth chakra have to do with CC? The sixth GC 7th Unity? In any case I once heard it discribed by a guy in this way. CC the state where realization fo the SELF is established. Not as a mood making but as the realization of the silence within is a very intimate way, Identity, I am. With this comes witnessing and more connection with the cosmic value of life. Someone who had been meditating a long time once sent his girlfreind to live in India with a Saint who was known for giving such powerful darshan that people were known to have experiences of enlightenment. When the woman returned home the guy is talking to her about seeing, hearing her thoughts, paying attention to her thoughts, he would aske her how she was feeling what she was thinking from time to time and she would have no idea as well no idea of why he was asking such absurd question. Witnessing was a naturla experience for him and unheard of for her. Then another guy went on to say that the experience of the silence in life becomes deeper and deeper until finally he said he was able to feel and expeience the silence in the air. In meditation or out he could experience the silence as if it was in between space. In this silence he could tap into the mind or essence of anything. He began to have a sense of intimacy with his environment. When he forgot something it was like the object had a consciousness of its own and would let him know he was forgetting it. Later the guy got really weird he thought he could experience himself as God. As in an entity, he even discribed the experience of hearing all people praing to God almost at the same time. He described being able to be unbounded and hear all and then being able to focus to the subtlest object. Later he spoke of laying in bed at night as if he was the galaxy sleeping as the blanket that covered the star the backdrop of the universe. Seeing the sublte essence of objects. Seeing the world as transparent. Looking at people and knowing their personalities as in seeing images of them in various behaviours as in inner visions. He described being able to look at a person and see them lighting a cigarette being able to see how they would react in different circumstances and so forth. He would forget names and then remember no only the name of the person but full details of his interactions with them. The guys telling of these expereinces were regular guys they would do everyday kinds of things when not meditating... Not mood makers not bliss ninnies... BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Self Realization (or CC) purportedly occurs with the awakening of the 6th chakra (Ajna), this is realization of the 'Self' as made in the 'image of God', MMY use to call it a milestone in evolution, but still just the beginning. MMY describes it thus, The silence which is experienced in cosmic consciousness, and which separates the Self from activity, is on an infinitely smaller scale, for it is on the level of individual existence. CH VI vs3. Gita God Realization is the advanced stage of...cosmic consciousness or realization of GOD (immanent in all of creation) as the Self. This is the macro reflection of God IN creation whereas Self-Realization is the micro reflection of God in man, beyond them both is Unity or Brahman encompassing both the relative, manifest and absolute, unmanifest spheres of life. MMY says: The one (GC) forms the basis of the activity of the *whole* of *creation*, the other (CC) the basis (only) of individual activity. Gita With the awakening of the 7th Chakra or crown chakra full Unity is achieved or Nirvikalpa Samadhi; Purnam adah, Purnam idam, inner and outer fullness. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---As usual with his lack of follow-up; MMY doesn't go into individual variations. Such as, certain individuals have been known to experience an awakening of the Ajna chakra before the crown chakra, and visa versa. Indeed, the only unique thing about my post was the correlation of the chakras with states of consciousness. I think MMY didn't want people to get lost in mystical concepts, but I think in order for his teaching to be complete the teachings of the chakras must not be overlooked. You'd think after 50+ years they'd be discussed more than once in an 'off color' moment.oh well. Maybe Roger Ram calls them by another name, maybe potato instead of potato! How about Krishna's little children.perfect tmorg nomenclature. :-) That's why we need people like Vaj to give us a different slant on things. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: Self Realization (or CC) purportedly occurs with the awakening of the 6th chakra (Ajna), this is realization of the 'Self' as made in the 'image of God', MMY use to call it a milestone in evolution, but still just the beginning. MMY describes it thus, The silence which is experienced in cosmic consciousness, and which separates the Self from activity, is on an infinitely smaller scale, for it is on the level of individual existence. CH VI vs3. Gita God Realization is the advanced stage of...cosmic consciousness or realization of GOD (immanent in all of creation) as the Self. This is the macro reflection of God IN creation whereas Self-Realization is the micro reflection of God in man, beyond them both is Unity or Brahman encompassing both the relative, manifest and absolute, unmanifest spheres of life. MMY says: The one (GC) forms the basis of the activity of the *whole* of *creation*, the other (CC) the basis (only) of individual activity. Gita With the awakening of the 7th Chakra or crown chakra full Unity is achieved or Nirvikalpa Samadhi; Purnam adah, Purnam idam, inner and outer fullness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of satvadude108 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid Will any financial proceeds be donated to Benjamin Creme? Speaking of whom, what happened to Nabby? Nabby hasn't been knobulating much around here lately. I count three posts on April 19, two posts on April 17, two posts on April 9, and more frequent posting before that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From one of Judy's favorite websites...
On Apr 25, 2008, at 3:59 PM, satvadude108 wrote: Your bafflement was a natural reaction Sal. It is in his own mind. I have a different take on McCain than a lot of folks here. Beware demonizing someone automatically when they are the Repub candidate. This mistake has been made over and over by the Dems and inevitably comes from the fringe. That fringe knows nothing about actually getting a candidate elected POTUS. W.J. Clinton, like him or not, knew how to win an election. He also knew how to stiff-arm the fringe and not let them have the ability to color his campaign. Does it ever cross your mind that Bill might not actually want Hillary to win? Really? I figured he'd like nothing better--he'd be back in his element, and would have made it up to Hill for making her life miserable so often. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of satvadude108 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid Will any financial proceeds be donated to Benjamin Creme? Speaking of whom, what happened to Nabby? Oh, is it Nabby that rants about Creme and *The Mayatrea*? Sorry. I was thinkin' it was OffKilter. My bad. Sometimes my discrimination fails me and I lump nutcases together. I take it all back so Edg won't wanna cut me with razors and dip me in vinegar. Waterboarding I could handle, the vinegar bit gives me the willies.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
but in cc and gc you become Jesus.. So why accept Jesus when you are him? Another name for CC Christ Consciousness. BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: Curtis wrote: I also have heard, based on solid scriptural authority, that accepting Jesus as your personal savior allows you to enter eternal life in heaven with God and all the angels singing for all eternity in high pitched castrati voices praises for the Almighty Father in his Almightinessinhoodedmentitude. OK, now get your blankies and lie down on your cots and we'll see if someone can tell us the story of the 72 virgins and how we can fall all up into that fer schnizzle! It always come down to sex with you guys. What's up with that? Maybe they think that sex IS love.! First it's the two Barry's and Vaj and their tantric sex magic; then Sal and Radha and Judy all tell you they don't appreciate your excuse for sex abuse. So, why don't you guys take a hint and stop talking about your dicks all the time? Can't you think of anything else to talk about except who is going to get the '72 virgins'? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the fifth chakra have to do with CC? The sixth GC 7th Unity? Well, rest assured Louis, you'll never know, cause the TMorg isn't telling you...pssst, it's a secret!! Verboten in tm circles, chakras? No such thing.(more below) and MMY never said!; it will always be merely speculation in the tmorg since MMY never cleared it up before passing. In any case I once heard it discribed by a guy in this way. CC the state where realization fo the SELF is established. Not as a mood making but as the realization of the silence within is a very intimate way, Identity, I am. With this comes witnessing and more connection with the cosmic value of life. Someone who had been meditating a long time once sent his girlfreind to live in India with a Saint who was known for giving such powerful darshan that people were known to have experiences of enlightenment. When the woman returned home the guy is talking to her about seeing, hearing her thoughts, paying attention to her thoughts, he would aske her how she was feeling what she was thinking from time to time and she would have no idea as well no idea of why he was asking such absurd question. Witnessing was a naturla experience for him and unheard of for her. Then another guy went on to say that the experience of the silence in life becomes deeper and deeper until finally he said he was able to feel and expeience the silence in the air. In meditation or out he could experience the silence as if it was in between space. In this silence he could tap into the mind or essence of anything. He began to have a sense of intimacy with his environment. When he forgot something it was like the object had a consciousness of its own and would let him know he was forgetting it. Later the guy got really weird he thought he could experience himself as God. That is unusual because you experience God as yourself and not visa-versa As in an entity, he even discribed the experience of hearing all people praing to God almost at the same time. He described being able to be unbounded and hear all and then being able to focus to the subtlest object. Later he spoke of laying in bed at night as if he was the galaxy sleeping as the blanket that covered the star the backdrop of the universe. Seeing the sublte essence of objects. Seeing the world as transparent. Looking at people and knowing their personalities as in seeing images of them in various behaviours as in inner visions. He described being able to look at a person and see them lighting a cigarette being able to see how they would react in different circumstances and so forth. He would forget names and then remember no only the name of the person but full details of his interactions with them. The guys telling of these expereinces were regular guys they would do everyday kinds of things when not meditating... Not mood makers not bliss ninnies... Maybewho knows, God consciousness is not the possession of any one individual but is available to all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The difference between Self-Realization and God-Realization.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Curtis wrote: I also have heard, based on solid scriptural authority, that accepting Jesus as your personal savior allows you to enter eternal life in heaven with God and all the angels singing for all eternity in high pitched castrati voices praises for the Almighty Father in his Almightinessinhoodedmentitude. OK, now get your blankies and lie down on your cots and we'll see if someone can tell us the story of the 72 virgins and how we can fall all up into that fer schnizzle! It always come down to sex with you guys. What's up with that? Maybe they think that sex IS love.! My satire on religious tales of magical realities had nothing to do with sex. Trying to turn it into this was just Richard's feeble trollish attempt, as was his outright lie: then Sal and Radha and Judy all tell you they don't appreciate your excuse for sex abuse. Or his creepy: So, why don't you guys take a hint and stop talking about your dicks all the time? Feeble, trollish behavior. Now to your point. I assume this was payback for me not taking your posting of Vedic mythology seriously, fair enough. If my post seemed to attack the person rather than the concept, I apologize. I am not confused with the distinction between love and sex although functional relationships include both, happily, together IMO. First it's the two Barry's and Vaj and their tantric sex magic; then Sal and Radha and Judy all tell you they don't appreciate your excuse for sex abuse. So, why don't you guys take a hint and stop talking about your dicks all the time? Can't you think of anything else to talk about except who is going to get the '72 virgins'?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary promises to murder millions if elected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Iran's leaders say what has to be said in order to keep their jobs - - to spotlight them personally is entirely missing the point. It is the will of Iran's people that keeps their leaders employed, and what the War Monger, and you too it seems, are ignoring is the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN POWERS ABUSING THE ISLAMIC CULTURE, and how that has created the very mindset we see today. Uh, I'm not a history expert but didn't the Muslims first invade the Europeans before they ever did squat to the Muslims? What was coming into Spain and all that about? I mean, Spain was practically a fully Muslim country for a while there. Tell us, Sgrayatlarge, what would you do if Canada had nukes and America didn't and regularly the Canadians bombed our nuke research facilities which killed your child in collateral damage? What would you do if Canada simply declared that California and Oregon and Washington were to be a new country run by a militarily imposed de facto dictatorship? Well, shit for brains, the exact opposite actually happened. Around or just after the war of 1812 (I can't remember exactly), the Americans in upper New York State got it into their feeble little minds to cross the Canadian border and cause all sorts of mischief, with the intent of invading and then taking over Canada. The Canadians kicked the asses of these Americans and they high- tailed it back across the U.S. border, never to bother us again. Of course, had we listened to the Edge of Wetness, we would have abandoned the use of violence and the Americans would have overrun us. Violence and war does have a nice little place in our hearts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: See HYPERLINK http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:EEStorehttp://peswiki.com/i ndex.php /Directory:EEStore Very exciting if true. 5 minutes to recharge...several hundred miles on a charge. Well, that changes everything. Good-bye OPEC. So many exciting things around: the thing linked above, Lunar Helium Three, Plug-in Hybrids. Makes one think that there is an intelligence shortage rather than an oil shortage... Speaking of lack of intelligence, how's that dumbass cakewalk Iraq war of yours going? What's that?...You say you lost the war? Oh, sorry to hear that, but hey, everyone knew you wouldexcept you of course. OffWorld How's that lawsuit against new.morning coming? I won. Thanks for asking. Great! Glad to hear it. And how's that campaign for president for Ron Paul going? Perhaps the proceeds from the lawsuit could be used to get citizenship for Benjamin Creme so he could be VP on the Ron Paul ticket. Marek might be able to refer a good immigration attorney. Of course the Constitution would need to be changed, but with the Mayatrea workin' on it, it would easily be done. OffWorld's prescience is breathtaking. Or maybe that is just me holding my breath from the stench. I do kinda like lots of Ron Paul's ideas. Sometimes he is off the edge however and is not a viable candidate for POTUS. I liked Ron Paul alot until that nutcase from Vermont via Oatmeal Land started supporting him. Then I started to doubt myself profusely...birds of a feather and all that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
Satvadude108, Hey, it was a suggestion, and note that if it had happened it would have been, as suggested, by Shemp's own free will. And note that I let him off lite. I cudda suggested he use a chainsaw instead of a razor blade, and the vat could have been filled with nitric acid instead of vinegar. And even this image is not in the least as offensive as the image of waterboarding where a victim is forced to experience personal and REAL death again and again and again. But let's ask ourselves: what's wrong with posting an imaginary image to make folks cringe? And let me strongly underline that I seldom see any cringing here for the deep peril of the world -- it's just background headline noise to most posters here judging by how easily they ignore the war-mongering here -- but there's been quite a few stomp Edg cuz he says oooky stuff posts. Would you rather have actual photographs of carnage posted instead, so as to get it that something horrible is happening in the world, and that Shemp is gleefully posting words that shows he is not resonating with third world plight? Didn't the major news outlets show the piles of dead Jews stacked up inside the camps, being bulldozed into trenches, etc.? Isn't raw imagery impacting and focusing? In my mind headlines create pictures inside my head --I see the actual blood etc. -- is this not the case for everyone else? If so, why can a Shemp or a War Monger merely take the image up a notch in abstraction and get away with not being offensive, but I am offensive if I POST SOMETHING CLOSER TO THE TRUTH -- NOT AN ABSTRACTION? If my words are so over the top, as you say, then how is it that you, with such extreme sensitivity to mere words, can abide the world's true carnage? If you saw Shemp run a toddler over in the streets, you'd call 911 and inform the cops about his license plate numbers, but when you read Shemp's posts that are the equivalent of having wet dream after wet dream imagining victory for American Oil Interests, why is it that you don't get alarmed at all -- you don't post anything to complain about it anyway -- and instead suggest to me that I cool my jets about this death lover's posting such vile ardor for blood, guts, body parts, viscera strewn, and lethal domination of the downtroddened? Shemp might just as well be posting/boasting about G.I. heroes raping Muslim women and children and that WOULD NOT BE ANY DIFFERENT than his posts that glorify war as a solution to ANYTHING. War ALWAYS includes one's nation's beloved soldiers sometimes inflicting incredible harm for no reason whatsoever except their own feral craziness brought upon them by bootcamp brainwashing and the stress of warfare. War wasn't the solution to Hitler et al, since the bad guys are one-offs -- symbols only -- but the mindset they espoused stays healthy despite any outcome of any war...and that's the tell: the conditions that lead to war are supported in all ways gross and in many more ways subtle by BigMoney. And that's the crime, ya see? To support war in the least is to assure that when group consciousness is finally saturated by the million-times-per-day hate-concepts that Fox Noise and Shemp heap upon the masses that then a war-like motivation is being built in the minds of all of us. I just don't get it -- why can carnage get a free ride but, say, something as evil as pedophilia gets headlines that convince anyone that a pedophile is deserving of just about anything done by anyone? Pedophiles -- vile sick bastards to a person -- are NOTHING compared to what a typical soldier is ready to do instantly to a child on command -- that is: kill or main the child -- and note too that some soldiers will first rape the child, (or their own women in their unit for that matter.) That's what soldiers ARE FORCED TO BE BY THEIR TRAINING -- and yeah, I include raping their own women in that deal. The mindset of a soldier is capable of anything. The pedophile causes incredible, life long damage, but it takes a huge amount of work on the pedophile's part to do this, but a soldier can do it instantly with a bullet that maims and incapacitates a child for life. I cannot see any difference between these two acts -- except that group consciousness that supports war's collateral damage has been specifically shepherded into the minds of the masses from birth onwards, and heroes are always seen in Hollywood productions being cool guys/gals who shoot machine guns at the bad guys as everyone else ducks for cover. No one ever tells the masses how many toddlers were killed by a bomb, and in fact, the powers-that-be will harm you pronto if you try to portray our army being even the smallest bit callous about collateral damage on children. But they are: simply go to youtube and look at war videos -- there's racism galore and absolutely no heart wrenching by our heroes when an enemy diesalong with his entire family living in a farm house without running water or
[FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hugheshugo Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels? Thanks for the vote of confidence Satvadude, I'll keep tapping away then. Or at least until Rick gets fed up with dinosaurs and telepathic dogs! Fed up?! I live with them. I love you man. Straight to the heart, always. Now when yas aren't so busy, and it ain't costin yas money, tell us about the dinosaurs. Some of us know all too well about the telepathic dogs, I get away with nothin around here, but the dinosaurs...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
satvadude108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ispiritkin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu wrote: My training is from a tantric samrat of the Kali tradition. I am now at the level of Sidh tantric which means I have mastered the tantric siddhis which are all given by mantra. These include the vashikaran, stambhan, uchattan, shanti, videshan and maran siddhis. snip None of these have anything to do with sex snip My experience with vashikaran was the day after getting the first mantra for it everyone I encountered in like store clerks even if cranky mellowed out when I dealt with them. It's been that way ever since. It would be nice if it worked over the internet. :) Fascinating. Yes, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over the internet, esp this group. =) Heck, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over a town hall meeting. I'm just a grasshopper at all this, and so far my approach has been eclectic and basically non-path, I guess. Proly some focus would help things along a bit faster. Do you think the mantra, the chant itself, does work, or is it a tool for focusing attention? You've probably written quite a bit on this already, but I didn't connect earlier posts with a specific approach, and I'm interested in knowing more about this one. My notion is that the attention is the important thing, not how it is evoked, but that some methods are more efficient at evoking that attention. The mantra siddhis are based on nada yoga which is the yogic science of sound. Like an externalized sound and internalized sound reverberates and can also cause sympathetic vibrations. The vashikaran mantra set up a sympathetic vibration even when I was not practicing it (which I only did during my program) that had an effect on the people I was coming into contact with. The stambhan siddhi I have used to shut up people who wanted to talk in a theater during a movie. Very handy. I don't know what they felt but maybe just a sudden self consciousness that they were talking which was annoying others. Again the transmitted vibe would have communicated that. As for attention, remember I said I didn't really do anything to get the vashikaran technique to work. Once learned and practiced it was just part of me from then on. I do have some other vashikaran techniques that require a target and therefore attention. It is important to get information from people who actually practice the techniques. I'm also a professional musician and have taught music too. I often find it interesting and humorous what people who have never learned to play an instrument tell me what it is like to play one. :) In all seriousness, I need a better fly-fishing sutra. The one I'm using is hit or miss and Patanjali is no help. Cultivating awareness helps a great deal but I'm searching for a more outward stroke of dynamism. Also, something to get the neighbor's cat to STFU when she is in heat. Thanks. Stambhan might work on the cat but sorry I don't know of any fly fishing siddhis. Check with some southern India tantrics though, especially on the coast. They may have something like that. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of satvadude108 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid Will any financial proceeds be donated to Benjamin Creme? Speaking of whom, what happened to Nabby? Oh, is it Nabby that rants about Creme and *The Mayatrea*? Sorry. I was thinkin' it was OffKilter. My bad. Sometimes my discrimination fails me and I lump nutcases together. I take it all back so Edg won't wanna cut me with razors and dip me in vinegar. Waterboarding I could handle, the vinegar bit gives me the willies. Oh yeah... old, tamasic, fermented, non-Ayurvedic food is *truly* scary stuff. shudder
[FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of satvadude108 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Plug-in Hybrid Will any financial proceeds be donated to Benjamin Creme? Speaking of whom, what happened to Nabby? Oh, is it Nabby that rants about Creme and *The Mayatrea*? Sorry. I was thinkin' it was OffKilter. My bad. Sometimes my discrimination fails me and I lump nutcases together. I take it all back so Edg won't wanna cut me with razors and dip me in vinegar. Waterboarding I could handle, the vinegar bit gives me the willies. Oh yeah... old, tamasic, fermented, non-Ayurvedic food is *truly* scary stuff. shudder Unless its a nice balsamic vinegar. I could deal with that. Mellow, dark and sweet. Prolly wouldn't sting as much. Alex, you crack me up.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of satvadude108 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels? Thanks for the vote of confidence Satvadude, I'll keep tapping away then. Or at least until Rick gets fed up with dinosaurs and telepathic dogs! Fed up?! I live with them. I love you man. Straight to the heart, always. Now when yas aren't so busy, and it ain't costin yas money, tell us about the dinosaurs. Some of us know all too well about the telepathic dogs, I get away with nothin around here, but the dinosaurs... Well, maybe I was taking poetic liberty with the dinosaurs, but I was really into them as a kid. On my birthdays, I’d alternate between going to the Natural History Museum and the Hayden Planetarium in NYC (we lived in CT). Had lots of dinosaur books and could name them all. But my dogs are telepathic, as all dogs are. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1397 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 7:42 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: satvadude108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: ispiritkin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu wrote: My training is from a tantric samrat of the Kali tradition. I am now at the level of Sidh tantric which means I have mastered the tantric siddhis which are all given by mantra. These include the vashikaran, stambhan, uchattan, shanti, videshan and maran siddhis. snip None of these have anything to do with sex snip My experience with vashikaran was the day after getting the first mantra for it everyone I encountered in like store clerks even if cranky mellowed out when I dealt with them. It's been that way ever since. It would be nice if it worked over the internet. :) Fascinating. Yes, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over the internet, esp this group. =) Heck, it would be great if mellowness could be vibed out over a town hall meeting. I'm just a grasshopper at all this, and so far my approach has been eclectic and basically non-path, I guess. Proly some focus would help things along a bit faster. Do you think the mantra, the chant itself, does work, or is it a tool for focusing attention? You've probably written quite a bit on this already, but I didn't connect earlier posts with a specific approach, and I'm interested in knowing more about this one. My notion is that the attention is the important thing, not how it is evoked, but that some methods are more efficient at evoking that attention. The mantra siddhis are based on nada yoga which is the yogic science of sound. Like an externalized sound and internalized sound reverberates and can also cause sympathetic vibrations. The vashikaran mantra set up a sympathetic vibration even when I was not practicing it (which I only did during my program) that had an effect on the people I was coming into contact with. The stambhan siddhi I have used to shut up people who wanted to talk in a theater during a movie. Very handy. I don't know what they felt but maybe just a sudden self consciousness that they were talking which was annoying others. Again the transmitted vibe would have communicated that. As for attention, remember I said I didn't really do anything to get the vashikaran technique to work. Once learned and practiced it was just part of me from then on. I do have some other vashikaran techniques that require a target and therefore attention. It is important to get information from people who actually practice the techniques. I'm also a professional musician and have taught music too. I often find it interesting and humorous what people who have never learned to play an instrument tell me what it is like to play one. :) In all seriousness, I need a better fly-fishing sutra. The one I'm using is hit or miss and Patanjali is no help. Cultivating awareness helps a great deal but I'm searching for a more outward stroke of dynamism. Also, something to get the neighbor's cat to STFU when she is in heat. Thanks. Stambhan might work on the cat but sorry I don't know of any fly fishing siddhis. Check with some southern India tantrics though, especially on the coast. They may have something like that. ;-) I don't know if they have trout in southern India Bhairitu. Coastal Tantrics, I would think, would be more likely to be knowledgeable about salmon siddhis. The two might be close but I'm thinkin a sadhu from a mountainous region is a safer bet. If so, you may be leading me on the path. Wonder if I need to study Hindi or gain another language skill. It would be worth the effort. Maybe somebody in Colorado at Naropa could hook me up. Somebody at the School Of Disembodied Poetics musta happened on the correct sutra for that siddhi. I always use barbless hooks and truly respect fishness, gently returning them to rushing H2O so they may again and again complete the circle. Now about Stambhan and that damn cat
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Daniel Odier's tantric practice
satvadude108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stambhan might work on the cat but sorry I don't know of any fly fishing siddhis. Check with some southern India tantrics though, especially on the coast. They may have something like that. ;-) I don't know if they have trout in southern India Bhairitu. Coastal Tantrics, I would think, would be more likely to be knowledgeable about salmon siddhis. The two might be close but I'm thinkin a sadhu from a mountainous region is a safer bet. If so, you may be leading me on the path. Wonder if I need to study Hindi or gain another language skill. It would be worth the effort. Probably Marathi. There is a lot of fishing on the inland water ways in Kerala. Ammachi came from a fishing family. Maybe somebody in Colorado at Naropa could hook me up. Somebody at the School Of Disembodied Poetics musta happened on the correct sutra for that siddhi. I always use barbless hooks and truly respect fishness, gently returning them to rushing H2O so they may again and again complete the circle. Now about Stambhan and that damn cat That's gonna take a lot more work and you'll have to contact my guru about that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Apology to Sgrayatlarge from Edg
I bow to your skill with the written word and will respond at a later time/date. Were you ever employed writing advertising copy? The present moment does not provide me time nor energy to correct your misguided view. I humbly seek your forbearance and ask that you not pour salt and vinegar on my wounds until I answer your missive.unless it is balsamic with a nice aromatic sea salt and a solar powered chainsaw. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Satvadude108, Hey, it was a suggestion, and note that if it had happened it would have been, as suggested, by Shemp's own free will. And note that I let him off lite. I cudda suggested he use a chainsaw instead of a razor blade, and the vat could have been filled with nitric acid instead of vinegar. And even this image is not in the least as offensive as the image of waterboarding where a victim is forced to experience personal and REAL death again and again and again. But let's ask ourselves: what's wrong with posting an imaginary image to make folks cringe? And let me strongly underline that I seldom see any cringing here for the deep peril of the world -- it's just background headline noise to most posters here judging by how easily they ignore the war-mongering here -- but there's been quite a few stomp Edg cuz he says oooky stuff posts. Would you rather have actual photographs of carnage posted instead, so as to get it that something horrible is happening in the world, and that Shemp is gleefully posting words that shows he is not resonating with third world plight? Didn't the major news outlets show the piles of dead Jews stacked up inside the camps, being bulldozed into trenches, etc.? Isn't raw imagery impacting and focusing? In my mind headlines create pictures inside my head --I see the actual blood etc. -- is this not the case for everyone else? If so, why can a Shemp or a War Monger merely take the image up a notch in abstraction and get away with not being offensive, but I am offensive if I POST SOMETHING CLOSER TO THE TRUTH -- NOT AN ABSTRACTION? If my words are so over the top, as you say, then how is it that you, with such extreme sensitivity to mere words, can abide the world's true carnage? If you saw Shemp run a toddler over in the streets, you'd call 911 and inform the cops about his license plate numbers, but when you read Shemp's posts that are the equivalent of having wet dream after wet dream imagining victory for American Oil Interests, why is it that you don't get alarmed at all -- you don't post anything to complain about it anyway -- and instead suggest to me that I cool my jets about this death lover's posting such vile ardor for blood, guts, body parts, viscera strewn, and lethal domination of the downtroddened? Shemp might just as well be posting/boasting about G.I. heroes raping Muslim women and children and that WOULD NOT BE ANY DIFFERENT than his posts that glorify war as a solution to ANYTHING. War ALWAYS includes one's nation's beloved soldiers sometimes inflicting incredible harm for no reason whatsoever except their own feral craziness brought upon them by bootcamp brainwashing and the stress of warfare. War wasn't the solution to Hitler et al, since the bad guys are one-offs -- symbols only -- but the mindset they espoused stays healthy despite any outcome of any war...and that's the tell: the conditions that lead to war are supported in all ways gross and in many more ways subtle by BigMoney. And that's the crime, ya see? To support war in the least is to assure that when group consciousness is finally saturated by the million-times-per-day hate-concepts that Fox Noise and Shemp heap upon the masses that then a war-like motivation is being built in the minds of all of us. I just don't get it -- why can carnage get a free ride but, say, something as evil as pedophilia gets headlines that convince anyone that a pedophile is deserving of just about anything done by anyone? Pedophiles -- vile sick bastards to a person -- are NOTHING compared to what a typical soldier is ready to do instantly to a child on command -- that is: kill or main the child -- and note too that some soldiers will first rape the child, (or their own women in their unit for that matter.) That's what soldiers ARE FORCED TO BE BY THEIR TRAINING -- and yeah, I include raping their own women in that deal. The mindset of a soldier is capable of anything. The pedophile causes incredible, life long damage, but it takes a huge amount of work on the pedophile's part to do this, but a soldier can do it instantly with a bullet that maims and incapacitates a child for life. I cannot see any difference between these two acts -- except that group consciousness that supports war's collateral damage has been specifically shepherded into the minds of the masses from birth onwards, and heroes are always seen in
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels?
I think most animals are telepathic, and we would be too if we weren't so completely sold out to language and left brain dominance. RuDog was definitely telepathic and all the cats I've ever had were also. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of satvadude108 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The wrong biofuels? Thanks for the vote of confidence Satvadude, I'll keep tapping away then. Or at least until Rick gets fed up with dinosaurs and telepathic dogs! Fed up?! I live with them. I love you man. Straight to the heart, always. Now when yas aren't so busy, and it ain't costin yas money, tell us about the dinosaurs. Some of us know all too well about the telepathic dogs, I get away with nothin around here, but the dinosaurs... Well, maybe I was taking poetic liberty with the dinosaurs, but I was really into them as a kid. On my birthdays, Id alternate between going to the Natural History Museum and the Hayden Planetarium in NYC (we lived in CT). Had lots of dinosaur books and could name them all. But my dogs are telepathic, as all dogs are. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1397 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 7:42 AM Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
