[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW, the numbers for the ME effect are sufficient for the US 
 only. Seeing how the crisis is world-wide,causing panic selling 
 on Wall Street by foreign investors it might not be possible to 
 draw a direct correlation.
 
 Further, though this is a stretch, since the stock market 
 effects were recorded decades ago, its possible that there was 
 much less foreign investment influencing the DOW at that point 
 in time.
 
 Just some thoughts, not meant to be taken as gospel, but to point 
 out there's always wiggle room.

Another thought -- after all these decades of
doing it, doesn't it ever bother you that you
are still looking for wiggle room?

Isn't a much simpler and thus Occam's Razor-
like explanation that the ME is, and always 
was, bullshit, and that its only effect is,
and always was, to separate TMers from their
money?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
The effect of large group meditations is certainly a good thing.  Compared to 
the massed indifferent confusion going on in most peoples' lives, what in the 
world is there to lose?

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 2:15 AM






--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:

 BTW, the numbers for the ME effect are sufficient for the US 
 only. Seeing how the crisis is world-wide,causing panic selling 
 on Wall Street by foreign investors it might not be possible to 
 draw a direct correlation.
 
 Further, though this is a stretch, since the stock market 
 effects were recorded decades ago, its possible that there was 
 much less foreign investment influencing the DOW at that point 
 in time.
 
 Just some thoughts, not meant to be taken as gospel, but to point 
 out there's always wiggle room.

Another thought -- after all these decades of
doing it, doesn't it ever bother you that you
are still looking for wiggle room?

Isn't a much simpler and thus Occam's Razor-
like explanation that the ME is, and always 
was, bullshit, and that its only effect is,
and always was, to separate TMers from their
money?

 














  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hey, Secret

We're curious about the L. Shaddai in your email address.  Does that 
refer to a Christian revival group?



[FairfieldLife] Re: MOU ditches satellite network

2008-10-10 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Hugo richardhughes103@
 wrote:
 
 
 
  http://mou.org/all-internet.html http://mou.org/all-
internet.html
 
 
 
 Cool !
 
 OffWorld


Actually I feel a bit sorry for all the people who
won't be able to switch over to the Italian porno
channel next door for a bit of relief from when 
Bevan's daily 36 hour speech gets too tedious.



[FairfieldLife] Meanwhile, Hugh Hefner Got Dumped by his Girlfriend...

2008-10-10 Thread John
To All:

Hefner said in the latest rumor mill that he feels like a road kill 
after he separated with his latest girlfriend.  Does that mean he's a 
victim of a woman?  Or, is it because he has victimized many women all 
of these years?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ 
wrote:
  
   
   
   �
   There was a comment by Bevan posted maybe a week ago. Try 
searching
  on his name.
   �
  
  Thanks.  My oh my.  Deja vu all over again.  A major real estate
  developer in Vedic City told me about the phase transition in the
  economy about 5-6 weeks ago.  I just passed it off as this man's
  peculiar characteristic Area 51 outlook on world affairs and the 
TMO.
  Now I'm wondering whether or not I was getting a preview of the 
to be
  announced party line.  
  
  I am still confused, however.  Now we have yet another rule added 
to
  the Maharishi Effect:  that the stock market goes up when the 
numbers
  go up unless the numbers cause a phase transition, during which 
the
  world finally recognizes that we alone had the truth all this 
time.  
  
  I wonder if the accountants have bothered to look at the assets 
of the
  TMO.  Real Estate prices are tanking worldwide.  And the TMO has 
its
  wealth in real estate.
 
 
 That it uses, for themost part, so its not as big a deal,except
 where mortgages are concerned.
 
 BTW, the numbers for the ME effect are sufficient for the US only. 
Seeing how
 the crisis is world-wide,causing panic selling on Wall Street by 
foreign investors
 it might not be possible to draw a direct correlation.

 Further, though this is a stretch, since the stock market effects 
were
 recorded decades ago, its possible that there was much less foreign 
investment
 influencing the DOW at that point in time.
 
 
 Just some thoughts, not meant to be taken as gospel, but to point 
out
 there's always wiggle room.
 
 
 Lawson


Wiggle room Hee Hee

I see from the latest press release that it's gone 
from 'purification' or 'necessary phase transition' 
to a disaster that can only be cured by the best remedy
that nature can provide. Weekly Coherence Days! Phew pretty
decisive eh? And not before time, that should sort everything
out in a jiffy.

Are we ever going to get the admission of failure about the
ME the TMO needs to make to reclaim any credibility?



[FairfieldLife] What's Raunchydog's motivation REALLY is (was Re: Palomino Ponderings)

2008-10-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  You might as well keep wondering because you sure haven't been
  listening if you think my objection to Obama, (not hatred) has
  anything to do with his race rather than his record or lack of 
  it. He is a race baiting, flip flopping, bamboozling, finger 
  flipping, double crossing, record hiding, unqualified, lousy 
  candidate with questionable judgment when it comes to picking 
  his friends. That ain't hatin' them's the facts because I pay 
  attention to the details of his behavior and haven't imbibed 
  the Kool Aid. I wouldn't trust him to feed my dog.
 
 I looked at your Yahoo profile.  I'm thinking that it just 
 might be about race.  

The Obama as Steppin Fetchit graphic might 
lead to that assumption, but I really don't
think that's it, Ruth. I think the thing that 
drives Raunchydog (and IMO has driven her over 
the edge) is more about gender and age than it 
is about race.

Friends in Fairfield tell me that she is an...
uh...older woman. If she's like a LOT of older
women in the TM movement, she's had to put up
with a lot of suppression of her gender just 
to stay IN the TM movement. And if she's like 
a LOT of older women in the TM movement, she
basically pissed away her life following Maha-
rishi and doing what she was told, and never
accomplished diddleysquat in that life.

Now she's getting old, and looking at death,
and what happens? A woman appears on the horizon
who seems to have a real shot at becoming Presi-
dent of the United States. So she LOSES it over
this woman, puts her up on the highest pedestal
she can possibly erect, and devotes all of her
energies to trying to get her elected, thinking,
Even if *I* die without having accomplished any-
thing in *my* life, Hillary will have done the
deed for all of us women.

And what happens? Hillary pisses away the oppor-
tunity. She starts out the clear favorite, assumed
by most in the media to be a shoo-in for the nomi-
nation, and she loses the first primary, badly. 
Things go downhill from there, and Hillary does
not respond well...she starts to cast blame on
anyone but herself for her slipping popularity,
and make up excuses for why she went from odds-on
favorite to possible also-ran. When it becomes
obvious that she's lost, she perversely drags 
things out for a couple of more months, just to
keep from saying the words, I lost.

And some of her supporters, like Raunchydog, still
can't say those two words -- She lost.

But she did.

And she didn't lose because of dirty tricks; she
didn't lose because of misogyny; she lost because
she ran a crappy campaign, and completely misread
the voters. And she wound up 20 million bucks in
debt as a result.

Most of her former supporters have come to grips
with this, and have moved on to next best, Obama.
But not Raunchydog, and not Judy Stien. They can't.
Having so few accomplishments in their own lives,
having so little real sense of self, they put all
their eggs in the Hillary basket. They identified
with her so strongly that Hillary's defeat is felt
by them as *their* defeat. They take it very, very,
very, very personally, and they're PISSED OFF. The
fact that Hillary is now consigned to being a 
footnote in history means that they won't even be
a footnote to the footnote themselves. Their wasted
lives won't be buoyed up and redeemed by one strong
woman that they identified with.

And so what do they DO about this? 

Well, we've all seen it on this forum. They find
someone to BLAME for Hillary's failure, which they
keenly feel as their own failure because they over-
identified with her. And they want REVENGE against 
those who they feel are to blame, especially Obama. 

NONE of this is about saving the Democratic Party.
That is bullshit obfuscation, and everyone here knows
it but them. Their real intent comes through in
every anti-Obama post -- GOT you, you bastard...
how DARE you beat my candidate, and thus me!!! It's
not about anything noble; it's about revenge.

And the saddest part is that it's about revenge for
a perceived affront that wasn't even an affront to
THEM. *They* feel defeated by Hillary's defeat, and
it was *never about them*. They just *imagined* that
it was, because rather than use their energy to accom-
plish something with their own lives, they put all 
of their energy into overidentifying with Hillary 
and riding her accomplishment coattails.

This may sound harsh, but that's not how I see it.
This is my honest assessment of the energy and the
intent behind Raunchydog's posts, and many of Judy's.
I think that what they are really angry about is that
they were failures in their own lives, and that the
heroine they thought would somehow redeem them from
failure by winning for them didn't. 

And that is really, really sad. Sadder than if it
were just about race.

Just my opinion...





[FairfieldLife] Re: MOU ditches satellite network

2008-10-10 Thread guyfawkes91

 Bevan's daily 36 hour speech gets too tedious.

A daily 36 hour speech! You mean they really are on another planet
it's not just a metaphor for being out of touch with reality.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Eustace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   To All:
   
   The major indicator of stock market activity is dancing the limbo 
   rock.  As of 12:20 PM PST, DJI has gone down another 350 points or 
   so.  Clearly, the national consciousness is confused of how to 
   interpret the current situation.  Perhaps, panic is a better way to 
   explain it.
 
 The more Pundits in Fairfield the faster your unbalanced system of 
 selfish economics will disappear.
 
 Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism
 - Maharishi, 1989
 
 Your capitalism is being destroyed by Nature. Get used to the idea.


Has anybody yet tried to see if the numbers in FF to the unraveling of
the present (?) economic system correlate? The first indication that
the effects of the superradiance might not be what we had expected
might had been last June's floods...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  BTW, the numbers for the ME effect are sufficient for the US 
  only. Seeing how the crisis is world-wide,causing panic selling 
  on Wall Street by foreign investors it might not be possible to 
  draw a direct correlation.
  
  Further, though this is a stretch, since the stock market 
  effects were recorded decades ago, its possible that there was 
  much less foreign investment influencing the DOW at that point 
  in time.
  
  Just some thoughts, not meant to be taken as gospel, but to point 
  out there's always wiggle room.
 
 Another thought -- after all these decades of
 doing it, doesn't it ever bother you that you
 are still looking for wiggle room?
 
 Isn't a much simpler and thus Occam's Razor-
 like explanation that the ME is, and always 
 was, bullshit, and that its only effect is,
 and always was, to separate TMers from their
 money?


Frankly, no. I believe that the guys conducting the research are True
Believers and MMY bought into the ME quite strongly. As to whether or
not its a real thing, that's another question entirely.


Lawson





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Eustace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
To All:

The major indicator of stock market activity is dancing the limbo 
rock.  As of 12:20 PM PST, DJI has gone down another 350 points or 
so.  Clearly, the national consciousness is confused of how to 
interpret the current situation.  Perhaps, panic is a better way to 
explain it.
  
  The more Pundits in Fairfield the faster your unbalanced system of 
  selfish economics will disappear.
  
  Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism
  - Maharishi, 1989
  
  Your capitalism is being destroyed by Nature. Get used to the idea.
 
 
 Has anybody yet tried to see if the numbers in FF to the unraveling of
 the present (?) economic system correlate? The first indication that
 the effects of the superradiance might not be what we had expected
 might had been last June's floods...


I'm a great believer in the Law of Fives: the human mind is able to find
patterns everywhere.


Lawson



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:59 PM, The Secret wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:





There was a comment by Bevan posted maybe a week ago. Try searching

on his name.




Thanks.  My oh my.  Deja vu all over again.  A major real estate
developer in Vedic City told me about the phase transition in the
economy about 5-6 weeks ago.  I just passed it off as this man's
peculiar characteristic Area 51 outlook on world affairs and the TMO.
Now I'm wondering whether or not I was getting a preview of the to be
announced party line.

I am still confused, however.  Now we have yet another rule added to
the Maharishi Effect:  that the stock market goes up when the numbers
go up unless the numbers cause a phase transition, during which the
world finally recognizes that we alone had the truth all this time.

I wonder if the accountants have bothered to look at the assets of the
TMO.  Real Estate prices are tanking worldwide.  And the TMO has its
wealth in real estate.



It's just a rehash and spin of the old unstressing story, spun for  
the masses. That way when the numbers are at their highest in the  
domes in years (decades?) they can blame it on purification--and  
try to divert attention away from the fact that pacification,  
enrichment and control aren't actual qualities of TM, the TMSP or  
really any relaxation style meditation technique. But they are what  
would be necessary if they were actual tantrics. It's important to  
cover the ME lie with spin as it reduces the cognitive dissonance for  
the followers.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
  I never claimed to have graduated from MUM 
  or to have even attended there. Or maybe 
  you mean not graduating from MUM makes one 
  a fraud, in which case I have quite a lot 
  of company.
 
Sal wrote:
 If you graduated from MIU, are you also a 
 fraud? Or a fraudette?
 
Well, I'd say that if you were not a student at
MUM, but you posed as one, for the purposes of
accreditation, then you're a fraudulent student.

If you're a student at MUM and you have not
graduated after 25 years, then I'd say that the 
teachers are probably frauds. 

If you graduated from MUM, then you'd be a MUM 
graduate.

If you're a teacher at MUM and you live in a
local trailer park, then I'd say that you were
really dedicated. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Peter wrote:


Narcissistic traits, yes, but not anti-social.



Let's look at this a little closer.

What are the traits of Anti-Social Personality DIsorder and which  
ones have been clearly observed in the Maharishi?


The diagnostic criteria for Anti-Social Personality DIsorder are:

Three or more of the following are required:[1]

1. Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful  
behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds  
for arrest;


Mahesh Varma, the so-called Maharishi was a fugitive from numerous  
countries with a long history of criminal activities.


2. Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases,  
or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;


A big yes on this one as well.

3. Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;

Wanna buy some farmland in Kansas? How about a theme park gone awry  
in central Florida?


4. Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical  
fights or assaults;


This is probably the only one that DOESN'T apply to the Big Reesh,  
although irritability is a biggie in the last decade or so of his life.


5. Reckless disregard for safety of self or others;

Well duh. More people were killed from TM related side effects and  
programs than any other meditation technique in known history.


6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to  
sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;


Not sure on this one, but certainly paritially.

7. Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or  
rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.


Big time on this one.

So, does he have at least three of these criteria?

YES. He has at least six!

[FairfieldLife] John McCain's Rage

2008-10-10 Thread do.rflex


Scary...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread Peter


--- On Thu, 10/9/08, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 9:49 PM










--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Maharishi's comments on the economy quoted by Bevan Morris

snip
 
 In the financial community, there are many rating agencies, Standard and
 Poors, Moodys, etc. Maharishi didn't like this. 'Moodys is too moody...'
 Everyone relies on this but then the paper that was so reliable is not, and
 then they change the rating, 'its not triple-A, its junk.'  Maharishi saw
 this as ludicrous; it has to change.

 Note the  Maheshism Moodys is too moody.  Another example of where he talks 
like a psychopath. (Read Robert Hare, Without Conscience).  FWIW.  


Maharishi did not have psychopathic traits. Narcissistic traits, yes, but not 
anti-social. The superficial similarity comes about due to the apparent lack of 
empathy.








  

[FairfieldLife] Re: MOU ditches satellite network

2008-10-10 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Hugo richardhughes103@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   http://mou.org/all-internet.html http://mou.org/all-
 internet.html
  
  
  
  Cool !
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 Actually I feel a bit sorry for all the people who
 won't be able to switch over to the Italian porno
 channel next door for a bit of relief from when 
 Bevan's daily 36 hour speech gets too tedious.

Damn! If only there were porn on the Internet...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Peter wrote:
 
  Narcissistic traits, yes, but not anti-social.
 
 
 Let's look at this a little closer.
 
 What are the traits of Anti-Social Personality DIsorder and which  
 ones have been clearly observed in the Maharishi?
 
 The diagnostic criteria for Anti-Social Personality DIsorder are:



 6. Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure 
to  
 sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
 
 Not sure on this one, but certainly paritially.

Definitely, think of how many grand schemes and plans Marshy
had that got abandoned after five minutes. It's amazing that
so much work was put into everything just to have it dropped
for another big idea almost immediately sometimes.

I asked a TM teacher why they never stuck to anything and just
went along with it all and he said that MMY could sense natural
law changing and could adjust the plans accordingly. Therefore,
what may seem like a chronicly attention span is actually the
best way forward for everyone. I always thought that explanation
was somewhat unconvincing.




[FairfieldLife] Mutant Indian Fish Develops Taste For Human Flesh!

2008-10-10 Thread Hugo



http://tinyurl.com/5xuxt5

You just can't stop natural selection.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Peter wrote:

 Note the  Maheshism Moodys is too moody.  Another example of  
where he talks like a psychopath. (Read Robert Hare, Without  
Conscience).  FWIW.



Maharishi did not have psychopathic traits. Narcissistic traits,  
yes, but not anti-social. The superficial similarity comes about  
due to the apparent lack of empathy.



I'm thinking Ruth might be using the dictionary definition not the  
clinical one you are familiar with:


a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or  
violent social behavior.


In this case, it fits perfectly a person suffering from chronic  
mental disorder with abnormal social behavior.


Let's not forget Mahesh was quite obviously also well known for his  
delusions of grandeur which is a quality of megalomania.

[FairfieldLife] Pluto in Capricorn!

2008-10-10 Thread cardemaister

Pluto in Capricorn:

1. Pluto in Capricorn is like Pluto making an aspect to Saturn, the
ruler of Capricorn.

2. Pluto in this case pertains to taxes and debt in the financial
world. Capricorn pertains to government and business.

3. Psychologically, Pluto pertains to obsession. Capricorn (and
Cancer) pertains to patriotism, nationalism, and force. A growing
segment of people are becoming driven and obsessed with their country
and it's military.

4. The result is a movement towards empire building through the
cultivation of superhuman strength and force – a powerfully trained
warrior class in some societies.

5. Covert intelligence operations; political assassinations –
especially with T-square with Saturn and Uranus.

 Now in regards to these last three matters – Patriotism, Military
might, and Empire building – the United States is entering a period of
great conflict. While the trend of many nations is in this direction,
the USA's own progressed chart shows the opposite movement in force.
In the USA chart, progressed Mars is in the peace-loving sign of
Libra, about to go retrograde, July 10, 2008 through November 5, 2086.
Mars rules military and war, and as it goes retrograde for the next 78
years, it suggests that there will be a strong movement in the USA
away from military activity and offensives.

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 As can be seen in the progressed chart above, the progressed Sun is
also important, as it starts its 30-year journey through Pisces.
Pisces is not a war-oriented sign. It is a sign also of peace. Instead
of being the world's leader in military might, it seems that a growing
segment of the USA population wants its leadership to be leaders in
world peace.

 So here is the conflict: the world is going through a 15-year period
in which the trend is towards more nationalism, patriotism, and
military excellence – pride in one's military. A large segment of the
U.S.A. population will of course respond to this aspect, and want a
stronger, well-trained and highly polished military, especially as the
rest of the world puts their focus in this direction which - by the
way – the United Sates has encouraged over the past 5-6 years.

 The USA has encouraged the rest of the world to start building their
armies again, and now they are doing it. And as they are doing it, a
growing segment of the USA wants to transform the emphasis of the
military to a defensive entity, and no longer an offensive one.

 The polarity between these dynamics reaches a peak in the USA in the
next 7 years. Concurrent with the peak of terrorism, as suggested by
1) the approaching square of Uranus to Pluto, and 2) Uranus moving
into Aries, this is also a time of increasing emphasis upon military
technology and the development of high powered new weapons of mass
destruction. Unfortunately, IMHO, this tells us that one of the great
investment growth areas in the 7 years will be in weapons development,
for the militaries of the world. And the USA may not be the leader in
the production of these weapons and equipment. In fact, there is a
very strong possibility that by the end of the next decade, the USA
will no longer be the sole military superpower on the planet. Our
security, provided by our military forces, may fall behind due to the
development of armies by other nations.

 So in terms of this year's USA Presidential election, we will see
this conflict front and center between Republicans and Democrats. The
Republicans, in the mold of current President George W. Bush, are most
likely to represent the Pluto in Capricorn dynamic, the awareness that
danger in the world is increasing and the need for increased emphasis
on national security. The Democrats are most likely to represent the
growing movement towards desiring world peace and the USA's role as a
leader in securing this peace, even to the point of curtailing
investment and development of the USA military. This conflict will
likely reach a peak during this next presidential term, 2009-2013.

 But the issue of military strength and development is only one area
of conflict within America these days, as signified by Pluto moving
into Capricorn, and especially as we approach the cardinal Climax
period of 2008-2015.

 If we look at a list of all the periods when Pluto transited through
Capricorn in the past 2500 years we will see many other themes besides
stock market turmoil and military status transformations. Many of you
enjoy doing your own research, so here are the last 11 dates of Pluto
in Capricorn, to commence such a study.2

1. March 7, 449 BC – December 3, 428 BC
2. March 29, 204 BC – December 27, 184 BC
3. January 1, 42 AD – December 7, 61 AD
4. January 16, 287 – November 24, 306
5. February 21, 532 – November 22, 551
6. January 2, 778 – December 1, 796
7. January 8, 1024 – December 20, 1041
8. December 31, 1269 – November 1, 1287
9. January 2, 1516 – December 21, 1532
10. January 7, 1762 – December 1, 1778
11. January 26, 2008 – November 19, 2024.

 There are common 

[FairfieldLife] Ode to Barry pen pining for far away friends

2008-10-10 Thread raunchydog

Lilliputian Lothario

He's cat's PJ's cool

Make believe Zombie

Self-absorbed fool






 
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Beyond mere mortals

Above it all

Contempt of others

Imagined small



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Twilight in Sitges

He's fast fading

Cruising the beaches

Reaper evading




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Sad crocodile tears

Fighting old fart fears




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Meanwhile, Hugh Hefner Got Dumped by his Girlfriend...

2008-10-10 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:57 AM, John wrote:


To All:

Hefner said in the latest rumor mill that he feels like a road kill
after he separated with his latest girlfriend.  Does that mean he's a
victim of a woman?  Or, is it because he has victimized many women all
of these years?


Which women has he victimized?  I was always under the impression
that his girlfriends as well as the women in Playboy were all consenting
adults.  Is that incorrect?

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: MOU ditches satellite network

2008-10-10 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Hugo 
richardhughes103@
   wrote:
   
   
   
http://mou.org/all-internet.html http://mou.org/all-
  internet.html
   
   
   
   Cool !
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  Actually I feel a bit sorry for all the people who
  won't be able to switch over to the Italian porno
  channel next door for a bit of relief from when 
  Bevan's daily 36 hour speech gets too tedious.
 
 Damn! If only there were porn on the Internet...

A common lament. I've no doubt human ingenuity will
realise there's a gap in the market sooner or later.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:57 AM, Hugo wrote:


Wiggle room Hee Hee

I see from the latest press release that it's gone
from 'purification' or 'necessary phase transition'
to a disaster that can only be cured by the best remedy
that nature can provide. Weekly Coherence Days! Phew pretty
decisive eh? And not before time, that should sort everything
out in a jiffy.

Are we ever going to get the admission of failure about the
ME the TMO needs to make to reclaim any credibility?


No of course not, but they desperately need to reduce the cognitive  
dissonance by the few hangers-on who actually are there because they  
still believe this BS. The very basis of the ME, alpha coherence, has  
long been a discredited hypothesis. It's truly insignificant compared  
to what the average Joe or Judy experiences in their day-to-day lives.


So if the ME were true, we'd already be in world peace as almost  
everyone experiences the same coherence in waking state!


I stick by my theory that what Mahesh was touting was actually world  
piece.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I asked a TM teacher why they never stuck to anything and just
 went along with it all and he said that MMY could sense natural
 law changing and could adjust the plans accordingly. Therefore,
 what may seem like a chronicly attention span is actually the
 best way forward for everyone. I always thought that explanation
 was somewhat unconvincing.


Most of these people in the TMO, including quite a few on Purusha can 
not sit so they have to run 

Maharishi kept them busy on neverending new projects since they were 
to rajasic to spend long hours in meditation. Instead of forcing them 
to do something which was difficult, He kept them off the streets by 
giving them new projects to play with.




[FairfieldLife] Lothario Edward Docx is Barry's Alter Ego

2008-10-10 Thread raunchydog

[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/graphics/branding/tcuk_400x82_normal.\
gif]  Booker Prize: Edward Docx- a Lothario to love  Last Updated:
12:05am BST 22/08/2007



At 35, Edward Docx is the youngest hopeful on the Man Booker longlist.
He tells Cassandra Jardine about the family secret that inspired his
novel
* Man Booker Prize homepage http://www.telegraph.co.uk/booker

On her deathbed, Edward Docx's Indian grandmother made a shattering
confession. Propped up on pillows at the family's home in Cheshire, she
began talking about the past to her daughter Lila, Edward's mother. Many
of the tales of tigers and elephants were familiar, as were the stories
of her peripatetic life as the wife of a British Army officer.

But the narrative became increasingly strange as she drew towards her
conclusion: And so I am not really your mother, she said. You are not
my daughter. And you are not half-Indian. You are half-Russian.
   [Edward Docx] Edward Docx discovered his Russian ancestry at 13
Edward is explaining the impact this had on his family to me, leaning
urgently forward in a Russian café in north London. More or less
everything my mother assumed to be true about herself - her roots, her
heritage, her very nature - turned out not to be true, he says, taking
another sip from his cup of tea.

My mother's 'grandfather' was her real father. He had conducted a short
relationship with a Russian woman, then asked his son to bring up their
child. So the man whom my mother thought of as her father was in fact
her half-brother.

Aside from their explosive effect on his mother, the revelations had a
huge impact on Edward, who was 13 at the time. It started me
questioning whether you can ever rely upon anything being true. Thus
began years of soul-searching. But, right now, he has reason to be
grateful to his grandmother for undermining his trust in apparent
reality.

Taking a similar parent-child revelation scene as his starting point, he
wrote his second novel, Self Help, about an Anglo/Russian family. It has
made him, at 35, the youngest of the 13 novelists on the longlist for
the Man Booker Prize.

It has meant an instant sales hike. Before the list was announced,
reviewers had likened Docx to Julian Barnes, Martin Amis and even
Charles Dickens. That was heady enough to guarantee him a continued
income from writing, but this is far better. Inevitably, however, it
comes with a sprinkling of envy from other writers who yearn to be
considered for any prize, let alone the Big One.

Docx appears to be a man who almost courts envy. At the launch party for
the book he swanned around like P Diddy or Tom Wolfe in a white suit.
When he took to the stage it was not to entertain his guests with the
usual display of gratitude and self-deprecation but to front a band
playing numbers by Bob Dylan and Jimi Hendrix. He carried it off with
style but the chutzpah was extraordinary.

No doubt that's why Docx eagerly makes light of his Booker inclusion.

Writing is a stamina game, he says. Talent only accounts for two per
cent; the rest is keeping your eyes and ears open so you can learn from
people better than yourself.

Despite this show of modesty, he stops short of describing himself as
unworthy because he has worked at his writing in a way that most of
those who say they have a book inside them have not. Does he ever
suffer self-doubt? He thinks for a minute: I suffer from not knowing
that I'm doing the best I can.

The apparently awesome confidence is aided, of course, by good looks. I
could describe him but he does the job himself when introducing Gabriel,
the son of a Russian mother in Self Help, a man with a Mediterranean
complexion who wears jeans with a fine shirt as though he has not been
able to make up his mind who he really is, has liquid dark eyes and
black hair kicked and kinked at the ends, not so much a style as a lack
of one, stylishly passing itself off.

After only a few minutes of Docx's erudite literary small talk, it could
also be said that, like Gabriel, he has the figure of someone thin
through restlessness, through exercise of the mind rather than the
body.

Those who have worked with him speak of him with awe. From his earliest
post-Cambridge University days in advertising, and then in newspapers,
he was a man with a plan at an age when others were just bumbling around
having a good time.

He's a tremendous intellectual snob, says a former colleague from his
newspaper days. When he gave a birthday party in his mid-twenties, it
turned out not to be the usual drinks and dancing but a sit-down musical
recital and poetry reading.

His view of contemporary popular culture is scornful. In his interview
with the pop group Steps, he mercilessly plied them with questions about
politics and history, to hilarious effect. But such assurance makes him
someone that others either love or hate - to paraphrase a Marmite
advertisement on which he once worked - and cannot stop talking about.
Men and women alike find him 

[FairfieldLife] Zombie Liberation: I may look like a zombie, but I'm not one

2008-10-10 Thread TurquoiseB
The Sitges Film Festival is winding down, and 
tonight is one of the events I've been looking
forward to the most, the Zombie Walk:

http://www.cinemasitges.com/uk/index.php?a=news_fitxaidNot=381

What it's about is a special showing of George
Romero's classic Night Of The Living Dead and
a ceremony in which he is presented an award,
on the 40th anniversary of the release of his
film. But to turn it into an evening that everyone 
can participate in and have fun with, an estimated
500 to 1000 people are going to get made up as
zombies and walk through the streets of Sitges
looking for Brains!!!

Not to eat them, but to help them grow. Although
the Zombie Walk thing was thought up by Romero
and the festival organizers, a bunch of locals
thought of a way to make it more than just an
excuse to dress up and act silly and have fun 
with their friends.

As we walk, we're going to be collecting donations
that will go into a fund being established to buy
computers for the Sitges school system, so that
Catalunyan students can prepare earlier for the
reality of a world in which a lack of computer
skills is a liability.

Needless to say, I'll be there, sporting my finest 
Calvin Klein zombiewear. The whole idea of this 
thing appeals to me -- an evening dedicated just 
to fun, but at the same time fun that helps people. 

Compare and contrast to people around the world 
who seem to act like zombies in their everyday lives,
doing whatever the Powers That Be tell them to do,
but not seeming to be having much fun with it, much
less doing anything for anyone else.

Some here will suggest, as they have lately about 
me attending a film festival that celebrates horror
movies, that me dressing up and walking around like 
a zombie is yet another indication of how low-vibe 
and Off The Program I am. Some here can go suck eggs. 

I'm going to be having fun tonight. Will they?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Zombie Liberation: I may look like a zombie, but I'm not one

2008-10-10 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:15 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


What it's about is a special showing of George
Romero's classic Night Of The Living Dead and
a ceremony in which he is presented an award,
on the 40th anniversary of the release of his
film. But to turn it into an evening that everyone
can participate in and have fun with, an estimated
500 to 1000 people are going to get made up as
zombies and walk through the streets of Sitges
looking for Brains!!!


They oughtta just visit FF or FF LIfe--they'd have their
work cut out for them!

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
  There is now strong evidence that during the 
  1990s, Barack Obama was a member of the socialist 
  New Party, an arm of the Democratic Socialist 
  Party of America.
 
Lawson wrote:
 Link?

And now we learn of yet another strange obfuscation 
or omission.  In 1996, Obama was apparently a member 
of the Chicago New Party, a now defunct socialist 
political party of some stripe or other.

Read more:

'Why the press hides Obama's lies'
By Roger Simon
Pajamas Media, October 8th, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/3v6py3

...it is inconceivable that the American people 
would elect a socialist President. So, if this report 
is correct, something's got to give.

Read more:

'Barack Obama, Socialist?'
Posted by John Hinderaker
Powerline, October 8, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/5ynzk2

Yet the article makes no serious attempt to 
present the views of Obama critics who have worked 
to uncover the true nature of the relationship. 
That makes this piece irresponsible journalism, 
and an obvious effort by the former paper of 
record to protect Obama from the coming McCain 
onslaught.

'NYT's Ayers-Obama Whitewash'
By Stanley Kurtz
NRO, Saturday, October 04, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/4tnwlc



[FairfieldLife] Sarah's pals

2008-10-10 Thread curtisdeltablues
In response to the hypocrisy of Sarah Palin's attacks on Obama and the
people he has worked with in the past I offer this:

Video intro: http://www.crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/6560/23287

Article in Salon:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/

I think I can understand why she needs to duck the press.  Wink, wink.
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah's pals

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote:
 In response to the hypocrisy of Sarah Palin's 
 attacks on Obama and the people he has worked 
 with in the past I offer this:
 
So, this is your way of taking up for Obama and 
the people he has worked with in the past. You 
are really turning out to be quite a political
pundit!

 I think I can understand why she needs 
 to duck the press.  Wink, wink.

So, why do you think Obama is ducking the press
on his relationship to Bernadine Dorhn? 

While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde 
Park as local activists, they're better known 
nationally as two of the most notorious — and 
unrepentant — figures from the violent fringe 
of the 1960s anti-war movement.

Read more:

'Obama once visited '60s radicals'
By Ben Smith
Politico, October 8, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/2ot5zp





[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo wrote:

 I asked a TM teacher why they never 
 stuck to anything and just
 went along with it all and he said 
 that MMY could sense natural
 law changing and could adjust the 
 plans accordingly. 

In the mid-1990s I asked a Purusha member 
why we were placing in the Post-Dispatch 
one of those full-page, us-talking-to-
ourselves newspaper ads about quantum 
physics and consciousness. He shrugged 
and said, It's just ghee on the fire, 
as if to say, It appears to be a waste, 
but it's supposed to do some good, so I 
do it. I thought that was a pretty
good attitude. It also showed why I 
would never have been happy on Purusha.




[FairfieldLife] Re: America's Most Wanted

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde 
Park as local activists, they're better known 
nationally as two of the most notorious — and 
unrepentant — figures from the violent fringe 
of the 1960s anti-war movement.

Read more:

'Obama once visited '60s radicals'
By Ben Smith
Politico, October 8, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/2ot5zp

A 1967 graduate of the University of Chicago 
law school, Ms. Dohrn passed the New York bar 
examination in 1984 and joined the New York 
office of Sidley  Austin, a Chicago firm. But 
in 1985, the bar judged her unfit for admission, 
questioning her commitment to the rule of law.

'At Home with Bernadine Dohrn'
By Susan Chira
New York Times, November 18, 1993
http://tinyurl.com/4o7fkv

Curriculum Vitae, Bernadine Dohrn
http://tinyurl.com/4ou623

The Weather Underground:
http://tinyurl.com/3kmvru

 Bernardine Dohrn, domestic terrorist.
 
 Dig it! First they killed those pigs 
 and then they put a fork in their bellies. 
 Wild! - Bernardine Dohrn
 
 Read more:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn





[FairfieldLife] What's Raunchydog's motivation REALLY is (was Re: Palomino Ponderings)

2008-10-10 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This may sound harsh, but that's not how I see it.
 This is my honest assessment of the energy and the
 intent behind Raunchydog's posts, and many of Judy's.
 I think that what they are really angry about is that
 they were failures in their own lives, and that the
 heroine they thought would somehow redeem them from
 failure by winning for them didn't. 
 
 And that is really, really sad. Sadder than if it
 were just about race.
 
 Just my opinion...



Too many assumptions and too many insults.   But I think you know that. 

I am a women in her 50s, gray hair,  glasses (with rhinestones) and
all. I am at the age of invisibility for women.   I remember Shirley
Chisholm once said that being a woman was a greater barrier for her
than being black.  Sometimes it does feel that women are always last.
 First a black man on the supreme court.  First a black man in
congress. Black men got the vote before any women.  I have thought
that a black man would be president before a woman. 

But how can we compare disadvantages?  It only pits us against each
other.  And what about the Hispanics?  The native Americans?  I never
liked pitting myself against men in general because I like men in
general.  A lot. ;) 

So, I move along.  I don't see any of the evil in Obama that Raunchy
sees and her posts just make her look bad, not Obama.  I will vote for
Obama and his time will be spent digging us out of a terrible recession.  

I don't know why Raunchy is so livid, but I am disturbed by the racist
picture on her profile.  What is that about Raunchy? 

I know that Hillary was the party faithful's choice.  Obama was not. 
Just like Carter was not.  Neither of them should be punished for it
by their party.  The people spoke.  The result is not a report card on
Raunchy or Ruth.  We didn't fail or succeed.  The primary and the
election is not about Raunchy and Ruthie.

If we are comfortable in our skin, do good, have the love of our
friends and family, have food on the table and the comforts of a home,
we are a success. 









[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread The Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The TMO should expect a class action lawsuit from investors who've
 lost a lot of money as a result of the phase transition. I mean
 there's hard evidence that all the yogic flyers influence the stock
 markets so if the markets tank it must be their fault, therefore they
 can be sued.
 

I like this.  Have Congress hold congressional hearings with Dr. BM
and a bunch of guys wearing white robes and golden Burger King hats. 
Have each of the TMO speakers talk for their usual 36 hours non-stop
using the Sanskrt buzzwords the Big Guy gifted us with before he left.
 I'd be be glued to the TV for these hearings.



[FairfieldLife] Barack, Michelle, Bill, and Bernadine

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Lies, big lies, and damned lies. The Obama 
team offers a disingenuous blend of fact and 
fiction in trying to cover up the true 
relationship between Obama and Ayers.

'Barack, Michelle, Bill, and Bernadine'
By Matthew Weaver
No Quarter, September 7, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/52fgeh




Re: [FairfieldLife] Sarah's pals

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:57 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:


In response to the hypocrisy of Sarah Palin's attacks on Obama and the
people he has worked with in the past I offer this:

Video intro: http://www.crooksandliars.com/media/play/wmv/6560/23287

Article in Salon:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/

I think I can understand why she needs to duck the press.  Wink, wink.


Keep in mind: she has an 80% approval rating in her largely rural state.

I bet she has a high approval rating in other rural parts of the US.  
And Hillary was loathed by a large segment of the US, many of them  
women. Palin is the Hillary-haters icon; see we can have a woman  
too and she's better than Hillary in their eyes, a real woman. She  
really does draw in a demographic that was both Hillary loathing and  
city-suspicious. You betcha.


Never underestimate the Nascar, Budweiser, football and Chevrolet  
market segment. Many probably consider gun militias and their ilk as  
folk heroes. They'll be nonplussed by a secessionist or someone who  
mistrusts Big Government. And let's not forget the Turner Diaries  
types. They're all big Sarah fans I'd bet. Probably a big draw for  
skinheads as well. All of these would consider secessionism a form of  
local control and a badge of honor. She's a fundie Goddess.

[FairfieldLife] It takes an ACORN

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Obama formerly represented ACORN, taught classes 
for future leaders of ACORN, and they endorsed his 
2008 presidential campaign.

Read more:

'Obama  Acorn Fact Sheet'
WSJ Marketwatch, October 4, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/3mgq2w



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@
 wrote:
 
  The TMO should expect a class action lawsuit from investors who've
  lost a lot of money as a result of the phase transition. I mean
  there's hard evidence that all the yogic flyers influence the 
stock
  markets so if the markets tank it must be their fault, therefore 
they
  can be sued.
  
 
 I like this.  Have Congress hold congressional hearings with Dr. BM
 and a bunch of guys wearing white robes and golden Burger King 
hats. 
 Have each of the TMO speakers talk for their usual 36 hours non-stop
 using the Sanskrt buzzwords the Big Guy gifted us with before he 
left.
  I'd be be glued to the TV for these hearings.

Likewise, it's fascinating when worlds collide. How normal 
things can seem when all around dress and talk the same.
How utterly bizarre it would look to the everyday Joe. The
very definition of Cult perhaps.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Zombie Liberation: Doing cool things with light

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 The Sitges Film Festival is winding down...
 
So, you saw a movie. 

From: Uncle Tantra 
Subject: Two simple questions for the bhakti 
supporters
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2003-03-16 13:29:48 PST
http://tinyurl.com/3o54mb

I studied with a guy who could turn huge rooms
in convention centers gold, to the point where
even the security guards saw it, but that never
made me think he was enlightened, only that he
could do cool things with light.



[FairfieldLife] Re: It takes an ACORN

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 How soon are you all going postal?

Have you heard from Bill Ayers lately?

'According to Stanley Kurtz of National 
Review Online, ACORN succeeded in drawing 
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into the very 
policies that led to the current disaster.  

ACORN put pressure on banks by threatening 
them with accusations of racism if they 
didn't give loans to minorities, even if 
they were completely unqualified.'

Read more: 

'Obama, ACORN, and the Financial Crisis'
by Marcia Segelstein
http://tinyurl.com/4emo5w



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Peter



--- On Fri, 10/10/08, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 12:34 PM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  The TMO should expect a class action lawsuit from
 investors who've
  lost a lot of money as a result of the phase
 transition. I mean
  there's hard evidence that all the yogic flyers
 influence the stock
  markets so if the markets tank it must be their fault,
 therefore they
  can be sued.
  
 
 I like this.  Have Congress hold congressional hearings
 with Dr. BM
 and a bunch of guys wearing white robes and golden Burger
 King hats. 
 Have each of the TMO speakers talk for their usual 36 hours
 non-stop
 using the Sanskrt buzzwords the Big Guy gifted us with
 before he left.
  I'd be be glued to the TV for these hearings.

And it would conclude with all the Republicans blaming it on Obama and his 
terrorist connections. And raunchydog would chair the hearing! 




 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] It takes an ACORN

2008-10-10 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 Obama formerly represented ACORN, taught classes 
 for future leaders of ACORN, and they endorsed his 
 2008 presidential campaign.

 Read more:

 'Obama  Acorn Fact Sheet'
 WSJ Marketwatch, October 4, 2008
 http://tinyurl.com/3mgq2w
You Obamaphobics sound really scared.  How soon are you all going 
postal?  Sounds like any day now.  Word is THAT is why the 5th Army has 
set up shop in the US to arrest all of you and put you in FEMA camps for 
re-education.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Meanwhile, Hugh Hefner Got Dumped by his Girlfriend...

2008-10-10 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:57 AM, John wrote:
 
  To All:
 
  Hefner said in the latest rumor mill that he feels like a road 
kill
  after he separated with his latest girlfriend.  Does that mean 
he's a
  victim of a woman?  Or, is it because he has victimized many 
women all
  of these years?
 
 Which women has he victimized?  I was always under the impression
 that his girlfriends as well as the women in Playboy were all 
consenting
 adults.  Is that incorrect?

Hefner has used money and fame as the lure to pose for his magazine.  
It is likely that he has used the same tactics to attract his many 
girlfriends and wives over the years.  Unfortunately, many of these 
women have fallen for this charade.

From the looks of it, at 82 years old, his next girlfriend will be 
kala kanya (girl of time).  That will definitely be unfortunate for 
him.

 





 
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:59 PM, The Secret wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@  
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
  There was a comment by Bevan posted maybe a week ago. Try searching
  on his name.
 
 
  Thanks.  My oh my.  Deja vu all over again.  A major real estate
  developer in Vedic City told me about the phase transition in the
  economy about 5-6 weeks ago.  I just passed it off as this man's
  peculiar characteristic Area 51 outlook on world affairs and the TMO.
  Now I'm wondering whether or not I was getting a preview of the to be
  announced party line.
 
  I am still confused, however.  Now we have yet another rule added to
  the Maharishi Effect:  that the stock market goes up when the numbers
  go up unless the numbers cause a phase transition, during which the
  world finally recognizes that we alone had the truth all this time.
 
  I wonder if the accountants have bothered to look at the assets of the
  TMO.  Real Estate prices are tanking worldwide.  And the TMO has its
  wealth in real estate.
 
 
 It's just a rehash and spin of the old unstressing story, spun for  
 the masses. That way when the numbers are at their highest in the  
 domes in years (decades?) they can blame it on purification--and  
 try to divert attention away from the fact that pacification,  
 enrichment and control aren't actual qualities of TM, the TMSP or  
 really any relaxation style meditation technique. But they are what  
 would be necessary if they were actual tantrics. It's important to  
 cover the ME lie with spin as it reduces the cognitive dissonance for  
 the followers.


Interesting. I assume that pacification was meant to be purification?

And of course, you're just asserting this stuff and have less evidence that 
TM theory is wrong than the TM theorists have that it is right.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee, was: Fly on the wall

2008-10-10 Thread housemousenet
Coffee is a favorite subject of mine -- although I rarely drink it now 
because I find that any more than once a month with it, my nerves get 
exhausted... 

Usually I have a mocha java at 2nd st only once a month, if that. then, 
I seem to channel the extra nerves into appreciating the previously 
gained refinement of loving life, and the life-changing experience and 
results of housecleaning... 2 positive directions.

2nd street cafe I prefer because of the great friendship I find there, 
but for the best drip coffee in town I remember that it was Petit 
Paris's organic custom-blended coffee. If you're having a special 
dinner or party, I recommend dishing out their asking price for a pound 
of their coffee beans. No, I don't get a commission :) But if you like 
Petit Paris's coffee, post back!

I find that when I use to drink everyday, I said it was to get things 
done.  But I find perhaps more is achieved in time without it -- go 
figure.




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  Not in FF: http://www.cafeparadiso.net/
 
 That's fine if you like espresso. Personally, I prefer drip coffee,
 and the last time I was in Paradiso (some years ago), they only served
 espresso. I only drink coffee once a week, on Saturday mornings, and
 lately I've been getting it at University Amoco. I used to get it at
 2nd Street, but they open too late, and they seem to have gotten lax
 about cleaning the equipment. Nothing worse than coffee brewed in
 equipment full of rancid oils.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread The Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ 
 wrote:
 
 Hey, Secret
 
 We're curious about the L. Shaddai in your email address.  Does that 
 refer to a Christian revival group?


No, it refers to the Xtian song El Shaddai, which I find very moving.
The first time I heard the song, driving to work in Colorado Springs,
I entered a trance like state.
It is probably my favorite song.  I believe the song moves me so very
much because there are archetypes which effect us at the deepest
levels.  I pretty much believe in Zeitgeist the movie's version of
Christianity.  

Though a TMer, I can only dabble in the tapes, lectures and
announcements a little before I start gagging on it all.  I'm not sure
I'll ever adjust to the new Sanskrt words used to describe experiences
and the golden Burger King hats Maharishi gifted us with before he
left.  I think the crowning point of my cognitive dissonance was
during the Taste of Utopia.  The Minister of Cultural Integrity for
the US was introduced to us.  She was a comely Westener wearing a
sari. I suspect I was the only person in the steel shed who asked
himself what's wrong with this picture?  

I was on IA 5-6 weeks ago and resided about half a mile away from the
Pandits in Vedic City.  There is
something more powerful for words going on in IA and with the pandits.
I felt the effects in myself and saw it in my buds. There is a very
pronounced, earthy, very masculine something in the air as one would
expect if doing daily yagyas to a big phallic symbol.  Nonetheless, I
couldn't bring myself to watch Krishna being carried by the pundits
on its way to being dumped into a lake.  I suffer from a great deal of
loneliness when it comes to the TMO and its activities.  I feel like a
stranger in a strange land.  I'd be happy if all the tapes and
speachifying were replaced by constant reruns of the Humboldt tapes.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:25 PM, sparaig wrote:


It's just a rehash and spin of the old unstressing story, spun for
the masses. That way when the numbers are at their highest in the
domes in years (decades?) they can blame it on purification--and
try to divert attention away from the fact that pacification,
enrichment and control aren't actual qualities of TM, the TMSP or
really any relaxation style meditation technique. But they are what
would be necessary if they were actual tantrics. It's important to
cover the ME lie with spin as it reduces the cognitive dissonance for
the followers.



Interesting. I assume that pacification was meant to be  
purification?


No, pacification (Skt.: prashanti) is a siddhi used by mantra-yogins  
to pacify their own negative emotions and thought-patterns they no  
longer find useful or helpful; ones that obscure realization. The  
nice thing is, this effect then can radiate into the environment  
using other techniques that leverage the pacification siddhi; or at  
least that's what many mantra-yogins believe and have experienced.


Enrichment and control refer to other siddhis mantra yogins are  
familiar with.




And of course, you're just asserting this stuff and have less  
evidence that

TM theory is wrong than the TM theorists have that it is right.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread The Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm thinking Ruth might be using the dictionary definition not the  
 clinical one you are familiar with:
 
 a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or  
 violent social behavior.
 
 In this case, it fits perfectly a person suffering from chronic  
 mental disorder with abnormal social behavior.
 
 Let's not forget Mahesh was quite obviously also well known for his  
 delusions of grandeur which is a quality of megalomania.


Actually, I'd be more willing to suspect that Maharishi was a classic
case of bipolar disorder.  He was at times very charming and engaging.
He picked up projects in which he would work himself and others
nearly to death then drop them as though they had never existed.  He
had bouts of paranoia and quite a temper.  His rantings about Damn
America, Damn Bush struck me as the ravings of someone suffering from
bipolar disorder.  When Maharishi fell out of love for you, you knew
it.  All symptoms.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread John
  I think the crowning point of my cognitive dissonance was
 during the Taste of Utopia.  The Minister of Cultural Integrity for
 the US was introduced to us.  She was a comely Westener wearing a
 sari. I suspect I was the only person in the steel shed who asked
 himself what's wrong with this picture?

In San Francisco, I've seen many young western women wearing saris 
during an ISKCON summer festival.  It's not as strange as you may 
think.

 
 I was on IA 5-6 weeks ago and resided about half a mile away from 
the
 Pandits in Vedic City.  There is
 something more powerful for words going on in IA and with the 
pandits.
 I felt the effects in myself and saw it in my buds. There is a very
 pronounced, earthy, very masculine something in the air as one would
 expect if doing daily yagyas to a big phallic symbol.  Nonetheless, 
I
 couldn't bring myself to watch Krishna being carried by the pundits
 on its way to being dumped into a lake.

There must be symbolic meaning to this ritual.  It may not be as bad 
as you may assume.



  I suffer from a great deal of
 loneliness when it comes to the TMO and its activities.  I feel 
like a
 stranger in a strange land.  I'd be happy if all the tapes and
 speachifying were replaced by constant reruns of the Humboldt tapes.


I have not heard of the Humboldt tapes.  Maybe the TMO should sell 
them on its publication network.







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:03 PM, John wrote:


  I suffer from a great deal of

loneliness when it comes to the TMO and its activities.  I feel

like a

stranger in a strange land.  I'd be happy if all the tapes and
speachifying were replaced by constant reruns of the Humboldt tapes.



I have not heard of the Humboldt tapes.  Maybe the TMO should sell
them on its publication network.



Link to the tapes were circulated here quite extensively.

Unfortunately their message didn't withstand the test of time very well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nine Days and the economic transformation

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 1:59 PM, The Secret wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm thinking Ruth might be using the dictionary definition not the
clinical one you are familiar with:

a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or
violent social behavior.

In this case, it fits perfectly a person suffering from chronic
mental disorder with abnormal social behavior.

Let's not forget Mahesh was quite obviously also well known for his
delusions of grandeur which is a quality of megalomania.



Actually, I'd be more willing to suspect that Maharishi was a classic
case of bipolar disorder.  He was at times very charming and engaging.
He picked up projects in which he would work himself and others
nearly to death then drop them as though they had never existed.  He
had bouts of paranoia and quite a temper.  His rantings about Damn
America, Damn Bush struck me as the ravings of someone suffering from
bipolar disorder.  When Maharishi fell out of love for you, you knew
it.  All symptoms.



Interesting possibility, but it just doesn't ring true for me. I  
would be more likely to suspect some combination of personality  
disorders.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:05 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

 

Link to the tapes were circulated here quite extensively. 

 

Some of them are at http://alex.natel.net/ffl/audio/MMY/

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Barack, Michelle, Bill, and Bernadine

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj
Why would they have to cover up anything when the guy starting these  
rumors is a man who killed children by bombing civilian villages in  
Vietnam? So it's probably not the best idea to try to make others  
look like terrorists when you were one!




On Oct 10, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Lies, big lies, and damned lies. The Obama
team offers a disingenuous blend of fact and
fiction in trying to cover up the true
relationship between Obama and Ayers.

'Barack, Michelle, Bill, and Bernadine'
By Matthew Weaver
No Quarter, September 7, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/52fgeh




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah's pals

2008-10-10 Thread guyfawkes91
In more succinct terms, the dumbest section of the population. Which
is quite a large demographic and that's why the Repubs have been
courting the dims for so long because it's large enough to win
elections. Problem for them is that at some point enough people start
thinking hey, we're in deep shit, maybe we need someone who's
brighter than us for Pres, when that happens then courting the
dumbest section of the population quickly becomes a losing ticket.

 
 Never underestimate the Nascar, Budweiser, football and Chevrolet  
 market segment. Many probably consider gun militias and their ilk as  
 folk heroes. They'll be nonplussed by a secessionist or someone who  
 mistrusts Big Government. And let's not forget the Turner Diaries  
 types. They're all big Sarah fans I'd bet. Probably a big draw for  
 skinheads as well. All of these would consider secessionism a form of  
 local control and a badge of honor. She's a fundie Goddess.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote:
 
  
  
   
  There was a comment by Bevan posted maybe a week ago. Try searching
 on his name.
   
 
 Thanks.  My oh my.  Deja vu all over again.  A major real estate
 developer in Vedic City told me about the phase transition in the
 economy about 5-6 weeks ago.  I just passed it off as this man's
 peculiar characteristic Area 51 outlook on world affairs and the TMO.
 Now I'm wondering whether or not I was getting a preview of the to be
 announced party line.  
 
 I am still confused, however.  Now we have yet another rule added to
 the Maharishi Effect:  that the stock market goes up when the numbers
 go up unless the numbers cause a phase transition, during which the
 world finally recognizes that we alone had the truth all this time.  
 
 I wonder if the accountants have bothered to look at the assets of the
 TMO.  Real Estate prices are tanking worldwide.  And the TMO has its
 wealth in real estate.



Raja of India Harris Kaplan on the MOU yesterday again pitched funding the 
Indian TMO.
It seems that Indian pandits in general are in greater demand, which increases 
their 
potential compensation from sources outside the TMO.  The TMO is now competing 
for 
pandits - and the TMO must increase compensation to pandits. Raja Kaplan 
suggested 
selling TMO real estate assets to fund Indian TMO.  

Meanwhile, Raja John Hagelin leads TMO in NYC.  Bridgewater Associates, a hedge 
fund led 
by long-time TMer Ray Dalio,  recently had over 150 of its hedge fund managers 
initiated 
into TM.   Hagelin and the TMO think the current turmoil on Wall Street is 
creating more 
receptivity to the TMO and its programs.   They think they can sell Yagyas, 
abhyangas, etc. 
to the Wall Street community.  Watch for a big call for staffing the NYC effort.












[FairfieldLife] 7-th vow of the Medicine Master Buddha

2008-10-10 Thread yifuxero
The seventh great vow:
'I vow that in the future when I attain Bodhi, to cause sentient 
beings who are oppressed by many illnesses and who are without aid, 
without a place to turn, without a doctor, without medicine, without 
relatives, and without a family, who are poverty stricken and filled 
with suffering to be cured of all the various sicknesses upon having 
my name pass by their ear, so they are peaceful and happy in body and 
mind. They will have a family and relatives, also acquire an 
abundance of property and wealth, even to the point of certifying to 
unsurpassed Bodhi.'
Moreover, Manjushri, when Medicine Master Vaidurya Light Tathagata 
attained perfect enlightenment, by the power of his past vows he 
contemplated all the sentient beings who were suffering from the many 
kinds of diseases, such as emaciation, paralysis, tuberculosis, 
biliousness, or fevers. Some were afflicted by voodoo or by poisonous 
spells. Some died naturally when young, while others experienced a 
violent death. At that time, wishing to put an end to all these 
various sicknesses and sufferings, and to supply whatever those 
beings sought after, the World Honored One entered a samadhi 
called extinguishing the suffering and distress of all living 
beings. After he entered this samadhi, a great light came forth from 
his flesh-cowl. From amid that light this magnificent dharani rang 
forth:
Namo bhagavate bhaishajya-guru-vaidurya-prabha-rajaya, tathagataya 
arhate samyak-sambuddhaya tadyatha Om, bhaishajye bhaishajye-
bhaishajya-samudgate svaha.
Then, at the end of the mantra that came forth from the light, the 
earth trembled and emitted great light. All living beings' sicknesses 
and sufferings were cast off, and they felt peaceful and happy.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It takes an ACORN

2008-10-10 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 How soon are you all going postal?

 
 Have you heard from Bill Ayers lately?
   
Bill Ayers is an old activist who never hurt anyone.  He's left his 
college days far behind.  Have you?  Even McCain said Ayers was no big 
deal.  Get with the program, Richard.
 'According to Stanley Kurtz of National 
 Review Online, ACORN succeeded in drawing 
 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into the very 
 policies that led to the current disaster.  

 ACORN put pressure on banks by threatening 
 them with accusations of racism if they 
 didn't give loans to minorities, even if 
 they were completely unqualified.'

 Read more: 

 'Obama, ACORN, and the Financial Crisis'
 by Marcia Segelstein
 http://tinyurl.com/4emo5w
   
Go pander your Republican Porn elsewhere, loser.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread yifuxero
--Will salvation come at the Eleventh-Hour:
http://tv.yahoo.com/show/43010/photos/3
...or will there be another Body of Lies?

- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Vaj
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:05 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?
 
  
 
 Link to the tapes were circulated here quite extensively. 
 
  
 
 Some of them are at http://alex.natel.net/ffl/audio/MMY/





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --Will salvation come at the Eleventh-Hour:
 http://tv.yahoo.com/show/43010/photos/3
 ...or will there be another Body of Lies?
 

In the mode of past presidents, Bush needs to have a fireside chat with 
the American people to assure the nation of his confidence in the US 
financial system.  At this time, the Americans are showing lack of 
trust with our leaders, bankers and Wall Street.  




[FairfieldLife] San Francisco and Buddhism

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj
http://travel.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/travel/escapes/10buddhism.html? 
pagewanted=all


Link

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread The Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I think the crowning point of my cognitive dissonance was
  during the Taste of Utopia.  The Minister of Cultural Integrity for
  the US was introduced to us.  She was a comely Westener wearing a
  sari. I suspect I was the only person in the steel shed who asked
  himself what's wrong with this picture?
 
 In San Francisco, I've seen many young western women wearing saris 
 during an ISKCON summer festival.  It's not as strange as you may 
 think.
 

Lost on you too, alas.  Cultural Integrity for the US.  It's not part
of American traditional culture to wear a sari.  That's what was wrong
with the picture.

  
  I was on IA 5-6 weeks ago and resided about half a mile away from 
 the
  Pandits in Vedic City.  There is
  something more powerful for words going on in IA and with the 
 pandits.
  I felt the effects in myself and saw it in my buds. There is a very
  pronounced, earthy, very masculine something in the air as one would
  expect if doing daily yagyas to a big phallic symbol.  Nonetheless, 
 I
  couldn't bring myself to watch Krishna being carried by the pundits
  on its way to being dumped into a lake.
 
 There must be symbolic meaning to this ritual.  It may not be as bad 
 as you may assume.
 

It wasn't the ritual that turned me off.  Where there are RUs I want
to puke.  OK, I can feel bliss and still not dress and act like a
blissninny and those who do really turn me off.  The ceremony was
married by hundreds of blissninny RUs.

 
 
   I suffer from a great deal of
  loneliness when it comes to the TMO and its activities.  I feel 
 like a
  stranger in a strange land.  I'd be happy if all the tapes and
  speachifying were replaced by constant reruns of the Humboldt tapes.
 
 
 I have not heard of the Humboldt tapes.  Maybe the TMO should sell 
 them on its publication network.


What I term the Humboldt tapes are actually the residence course tapes
which came out of the taping of Maharishi's lectures at Humboldt. 
Maharishi was very intimate, very clear, very charming.  One of my
favorite tapes is Love is Always Directed towards the Self.  It starts
off with a CP asking about the love of a man for a woman.  Maharishi
turns it into a talk about love then goes on to explain that
everything, love included, is directed towards the Self. He developed
the lectures at Humboldt very well, taking people from where they were
coming from to where he was coming from.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 2:08 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

 

In the mode of past presidents, Bush needs to have a fireside chat with 
the American people to assure the nation of his confidence in the US 
financial system. At this time, the Americans are showing lack of 
trust with our leaders, bankers and Wall Street. 

You have to have confidence in Bush for his confidence to mean anything,
and most people don't.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Bhairitu
The Secret wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I think the crowning point of my cognitive dissonance was
 
 during the Taste of Utopia.  The Minister of Cultural Integrity for
 the US was introduced to us.  She was a comely Westener wearing a
 sari. I suspect I was the only person in the steel shed who asked
 himself what's wrong with this picture?
   
 In San Francisco, I've seen many young western women wearing saris 
 during an ISKCON summer festival.  It's not as strange as you may 
 think.

 

 Lost on you too, alas.  Cultural Integrity for the US.  It's not part
 of American traditional culture to wear a sari.  That's what was wrong
 with the picture.
   
I remember astrologer Hart DeFouw telling a story at one of his 
workshops about attending a party his guru (an Indian tantric living in 
Toronto) gave.  Hart's wife chose to wear a sari to the party and his 
guru chewed Hart out for that because it looked put on.   I have 
similar debates with my guru as he sees things the other way that we 
should wear tradition Indian clothing when lecturing but this isn't 
India and kurtajamis are not part of OUR culture.  And I think it looks 
put on.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Bhairitu
John wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 --Will salvation come at the Eleventh-Hour:
 http://tv.yahoo.com/show/43010/photos/3
 ...or will there be another Body of Lies?

 

 In the mode of past presidents, Bush needs to have a fireside chat with 
 the American people to assure the nation of his confidence in the US 
 financial system.  At this time, the Americans are showing lack of 
 trust with our leaders, bankers and Wall Street. 
That con artist?  A President with a 20% approval rating is not going to 
assure the nation of any kind of confidence.  As far as most Americans 
are concerned he is the ringleader of a gang of bandits who are stealing 
their money, which is EXACTLY the case.  I would have loved to have seen 
what would have happened to him if Congress did not pass the bill the 
second time.  It would have been a hoot (and better for the little guy too).




[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread yifuxero
---Across the Universe:

Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup,
They slither while they pass, they slip away across the universe
Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind,
Possessing and caressing me.
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.
Nothing's gonna change my world.
Nothing's gonna change my world.

Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes,
That call me on and on across the universe,
Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box they
Tumble blindly as they make their way
Across the universe
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.
Nothing's gonna change my world.
Nothing's gonna change my world.

Sounds of laughter shades of life are ringing
Through my open mind inciting and inviting me
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a
million suns, it calls me on and on
Across the universe
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world,
Nothing's gonna change my world.
Nothing's gonna change my world.
Nothing's gonna change my world.

Jai guru deva
Jai guru deva
Jai guru deva
Jai guru deva 





 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ 
wrote:

  --Will salvation come at the Eleventh-Hour:
  http://tv.yahoo.com/show/43010/photos/3
  ...or will there be another Body of Lies?
 
  
 
  In the mode of past presidents, Bush needs to have a fireside 
chat with 
  the American people to assure the nation of his confidence in the 
US 
  financial system.  At this time, the Americans are showing lack 
of 
  trust with our leaders, bankers and Wall Street. 
 That con artist?  A President with a 20% approval rating is not 
going to 
 assure the nation of any kind of confidence.  As far as most 
Americans 
 are concerned he is the ringleader of a gang of bandits who are 
stealing 
 their money, which is EXACTLY the case.  I would have loved to have 
seen 
 what would have happened to him if Congress did not pass the bill 
the 
 second time.  It would have been a hoot (and better for the little 
guy too).





Re: [FairfieldLife] Billy Goodbar

2008-10-10 Thread gullible fool



 
Billy Goodbar 

Mr. Billy Goodbar, a supportive friend to all, a dedicated farmer, a scholar 
who deeply penetrated the reality of life, passed away peacefully on Sept. 18, 
2008. 

Billy had a wonderful way of making good friends where ever he went throughout 
our communities and we would like to invite all his friends to come to a 
memorial celebration of his life to be held this Saturday, Oct. 11, at 2 p.m. 
at 393 Little Laurel Road Extension in Boone. 

We will deeply miss Billy's peaceful presence in our lives, his wonderful 
laughter, his kind heart, and his noble qualities of personal integrity and 
generosity. We all benefited from his wisdom, his strength and his light and 
full heart. 
 
Mr. Goodbar leaves a son, Christopher; daughter-in-law, Sarah; two wonderful 
granddaughters, Mia and Lizzie; and three sisters, Joan, Barbara and Donna.
For more information or to share your stories and memories of Billy, please 
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call 265-1733.
 
http://www.wataugademocrat.com/0_obituaries.php
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Billy Goodbar
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 11:41 AM













 
Good guy. Part of the Cambridge center for a while, as so many were. Didn't 
know he was into farming.
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 

   
- Amma  

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Billy Goodbar
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 11:24 AM








  Friend just sent me this.






 




I just found out that my dear friend and farming comrade Billy Goodbar has 
died.  He was just found at his farm, in the kitchen, on the floor.  I would 
guess he died of heart failure.  He complained of the symptoms that I wish I 
had picked up on and acted on, in his behalf.  I just saw him a about 5 days 
ago ... I just thought he was tired.  We had a good chat and fun activity.  He 
died at the most auspicious place he would have picked; his beautiful farm 
which he loved so much. 

 



  

[FairfieldLife] Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
You are the instruments that God is gonna 
use to bring about universal change, and 
that is why Barack has captured the youth. 
And he has involved young people in a 
political process that they didn't care 
anything about. That's a sign. When the 
Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and 
the Messiah is absolutely speaking. 
- Louis Farrakhan

Read more:

'Obama as the Messiah?'
By P.J. Gladnick
Newsbusters, October 9, 2008 
http://tinyurl.com/4aw6rm



[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee, was: Fly on the wall

2008-10-10 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, housemousenet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Coffee is a favorite subject of mine -- although I rarely drink it now 
 because I find that any more than once a month with it, my nerves get 
 exhausted... 
 
 Usually I have a mocha java at 2nd st only once a month, if that. then, 
 I seem to channel the extra nerves into appreciating the previously 
 gained refinement of loving life, and the life-changing experience and 
 results of housecleaning... 2 positive directions.
 
 2nd street cafe I prefer because of the great friendship I find there, 
 but for the best drip coffee in town I remember that it was Petit 
 Paris's organic custom-blended coffee. If you're having a special 
 dinner or party, I recommend dishing out their asking price for a pound 
 of their coffee beans. No, I don't get a commission :) But if you like 
 Petit Paris's coffee, post back!
 
 I find that when I use to drink everyday, I said it was to get things 
 done.  But I find perhaps more is achieved in time without it -- go 
 figure.
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   Not in FF: http://www.cafeparadiso.net/
  
  That's fine if you like espresso. Personally, I prefer drip coffee,
  and the last time I was in Paradiso (some years ago), they only served
  espresso. I only drink coffee once a week, on Saturday mornings, and
  lately I've been getting it at University Amoco. I used to get it at
  2nd Street, but they open too late, and they seem to have gotten lax
  about cleaning the equipment. Nothing worse than coffee brewed in
  equipment full of rancid oils.
 


I sure hope u guys like it BLACK, because if u don't
it's prolly not good for yer dawshas, or stuff!  ;0



[FairfieldLife] Re: It takes an ACORN

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 Bill Ayers is an old activist who never 
 hurt anyone.  

Curriculum Vitae, Bernadine Dohrn
http://tinyurl.com/4ou623

The Weather Underground:
http://tinyurl.com/3kmvru



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread The Secret
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  --Will salvation come at the Eleventh-Hour:
  http://tv.yahoo.com/show/43010/photos/3
  ...or will there be another Body of Lies?
  
 
 In the mode of past presidents, Bush needs to have a fireside chat with 
 the American people to assure the nation of his confidence in the US 
 financial system.  At this time, the Americans are showing lack of 
 trust with our leaders, bankers and Wall Street.

Oh yeah.  That's going to help a lot.  Bush has an approval rating
rivaling Herbert Hoover.  We can't have a fireside chat for at least
two reasons.  One, this is not a fatherly FDR in the hayday of radio
and we wouldn't be able to see the background with Confidence
repeated over and over again on the backdrop.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Barack, Michelle, Bill, and Bernadine

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote:
 Why would they have to cover up anything 
 when the guy starting these rumors is a 
 man who killed children by bombing civilian 
 villages in Vietnam? 

McCain did't kill any children in civilian 
villages in Vietnam. Why would he do that, 
when he could have bombed Vietcong arms 
depots? You're not making any sense.

The alpha strikes flown from Forrestal were 
against specific, pre-selected targets such 
as arms depots, factories, and bridges.

Wikipedia:
http://tinyurl.com/4ondbq

 So it's probably not the best idea to try 
 to make others look like terrorists when 
 you were one!

It's one thing to be a hypocrite, Vaj, but do
you have to be a liar? Everyone knows you voted 
for John F. Kerry.
 
On Christmas Eve he was near Cambodia; he was 
around 50 miles from the Cambodian border. 
There's no indictment of Kerry to be made, but 
he was mistaken about Christmas in Cambodia, 
said Douglas Brinkley, who has unique access 
to the candidate's wartime journals.

'Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War'
by Douglas Brinkley
William Morrow, January 6, 2004



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It takes an ACORN

2008-10-10 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 Bill Ayers is an old activist who never 
 hurt anyone.  

 
 Curriculum Vitae, Bernadine Dohrn
 http://tinyurl.com/4ou623

 The Weather Underground:
 http://tinyurl.com/3kmvru
*Gergen: Ayers attacks good for ratings, not for winning:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Gergen_Ayers_attacks_good_for_TV_1010.html

*


Re: [FairfieldLife] San Francisco and Buddhism

2008-10-10 Thread Jonathan Chadwick

How anyone can write an article about Buddhism in SF in the 1950's and not 
mention Alan Watts is beyond me:  beginning in 1951 he was the only person in 
SF making a living at the academic teaching of Buddhism, first as a professor, 
then later as the academic dean, of what was at the time called the American 
Academy Asian Studies.  Certainly everyone mentioned in the article would have 
deferred to Watts in any intellectual discussion of Buddhism, including 
little Suzuki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Roshi.  And oh yeah, in 
1957 Watts had published The Way of Zen, which now more than fifty years later 
remains the best introduction to Zen in a western language. 

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] San Francisco and Buddhism
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 3:08 PM






http://travel. nytimes.com/ 2008/10/10/ travel/escapes/ 10buddhism. 
html?pagewanted= all 


Link 














  

Re: [FairfieldLife] San Francisco and Buddhism

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Chadwick wrote:

How anyone can write an article about Buddhism in SF in the 1950's  
and not mention Alan Watts is beyond me:  beginning in 1951 he was  
the only person in SF making a living at the academic teaching of  
Buddhism, first as a professor, then later as the academic dean, of  
what was at the time called the American Academy Asian Studies.   
Certainly everyone mentioned in the article would have deferred to  
Watts in any intellectual discussion of Buddhism, including little  
Suzukihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Roshi.  And oh yeah, in  
1957 Watts had published The Way of Zen, which now more than fifty  
years later remains the best introduction to Zen in a western  
language.



While Watts had a reputation as a writer and speaker/teacher, did he  
speak from realization? If not, maybe that's why. I never had much  
interest in him, although I know the older generation had some  
enamoured with his writings. I always imagined a stodgy old Brit from  
what little I'd read and thereby lost interest.


Or perhaps the article was meant to emphasize those the author had  
some personal or indirect relationship to. I don't really know.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


You are the instruments that God is gonna
use to bring about universal change, and
that is why Barack has captured the youth.
And he has involved young people in a
political process that they didn't care
anything about. That's a sign. When the
Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and
the Messiah is absolutely speaking.
- Louis Farrakhan

Read more:

'Obama as the Messiah?'
By P.J. Gladnick
Newsbusters, October 9, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/4aw6rm



How I Lost An Election:

Louis Farrakhan tried to help.

Thanks, but no thanks Calypso Louie. Take one look at a city the  
Farrakhan followers have taken over and you'll know all you need to  
know about this madman.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It takes an ACORN

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 Ayers attacks good for ratings, not for 
 winning...

Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent 
actions of the Weathermen group, so why don't 
you? 

Bill Ayers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

   Bill Ayers is an old activist who never 
   hurt anyone.  
   
Bhairitu wrote:
 *Gergen: Ayers attacks good for ratings, not for winning:
 http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Gergen_Ayers_attacks_good_for_TV_1010.html
 
  Curriculum Vitae, Bernadine Dohrn
  http://tinyurl.com/4ou623
 
  The Weather Underground:
  http://tinyurl.com/3kmvru




Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Vaj wrote:



On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


You are the instruments that God is gonna
use to bring about universal change, and
that is why Barack has captured the youth.
And he has involved young people in a
political process that they didn't care
anything about. That's a sign. When the
Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and
the Messiah is absolutely speaking.
- Louis Farrakhan

Read more:

'Obama as the Messiah?'
By P.J. Gladnick
Newsbusters, October 9, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/4aw6rm



How I Lost An Election:

Louis Farrakhan tried to help.

Thanks, but no thanks Calypso Louie. Take one look at a city the  
Farrakhan followers have taken over and you'll know all you need to  
know about this madman.





Oh and yeah, he is a messiah of sorts to the people who've (as Bob  
Marley called it) been prisoners to mental slavery, despite being  
supposedly free men and women.


I have to chuckle when I see a faltering mortgage industry who's given  
over 5 million sub-prime loans to illegal aliens (many who've  
absconded or changed names, SS#'s)...but won't give those same loans  
to the African American community. The elite always love a slave class  
and keeping a people in economic slavery is but one way.


Someone who could (potentially) reverse all that, certainly sounds  
like a messiach to me...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote:
 How I Lost An Election:
 
 Louis Farrakhan tried to help.
 
 Thanks, but no thanks Calypso Louie. 
 Take one look at a city the Farrakhan 
 followers have taken over and you'll 
 know all you need to know about this 
 madman.

And yet Rev. Wright, Obama's pastor of 
twenty years, heaped praise on Farrakhan! 

'Obama's Farrakhan Test'
By Richard Cohen
Washington Post, Tuesday, January 15, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/2tgeas

  You are the instruments that God is gonna
  use to bring about universal change, and
  that is why Barack has captured the youth.
  And he has involved young people in a
  political process that they didn't care
  anything about. That's a sign. When the
  Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and
  the Messiah is absolutely speaking.
  - Louis Farrakhan
 
  Read more:
 
  'Obama as the Messiah?'
  By P.J. Gladnick
  Newsbusters, October 9, 2008
  http://tinyurl.com/4aw6rm




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote:
 I have to chuckle when I see a faltering 
 mortgage industry who's given over 5 million 
 sub-prime loans to illegal aliens (many who've  
 absconded or changed names, SS#'s)...but won't 
 give those same loans to the African American 
 community. The elite always love a slave class  
 and keeping a people in economic slavery is 
 but one way.
 
But it was ACORN that supported giving sub-prime 
loans to the African American community. Illegal 
aliens can't get bank loans to buy houses.

'According to Stanley Kurtz of National Review 
Online, ACORN succeeded in drawing Fannie Mae 
and Freddie Mac into the very policies that led 
to the current disaster.  ACORN put pressure on 
banks by threatening them with accusations of 
racism if they didn't give loans to minorities, 
even if they were completely unqualified.'

Read more: 

'Obama, ACORN, and the Financial Crisis'
by Marcia Segelstein
http://tinyurl.com/4emo5w



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj


On Oct 10, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Vaj wrote:

How I Lost An Election:

Louis Farrakhan tried to help.

Thanks, but no thanks Calypso Louie.
Take one look at a city the Farrakhan
followers have taken over and you'll
know all you need to know about this
madman.


And yet Rev. Wright, Obama's pastor of
twenty years, heaped praise on Farrakhan!

'Obama's Farrakhan Test'
By Richard Cohen
Washington Post, Tuesday, January 15, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/2tgeas



Thank god Obama dumped him, huh? Religulous types love to dump praise  
on their peers, don't they? I mean someone should tell them this is  
not the Academy Awards doncha think?


It could've been worse Willy, at least it wasn't CEO Rev. Hagee...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
 Nothing's gonna change my world,

Hope and change. Change and hope.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Change and hope. Hope and change.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Hope and change. Change and hope.
Chope and chope. Chope and chope.
Chope and change. Hope and chope.
Chope and chope.
Change.
Hope.
Chope!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj

On Oct 10, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

 Vaj wrote:
 I have to chuckle when I see a faltering
 mortgage industry who's given over 5 million
 sub-prime loans to illegal aliens (many who've
 absconded or changed names, SS#'s)...but won't
 give those same loans to the African American
 community. The elite always love a slave class
 and keeping a people in economic slavery is
 but one way.

 But it was ACORN that supported giving sub-prime
 loans to the African American community. Illegal
 aliens can't get bank loans to buy houses.


Tell that to the over 5 million that defaultedthey all had ahem  
Social Security Numbers...some maxxed out their home improvement lines  
as well. (I do think it is good to always have enuff money when you  
travel)

I dunno if you have a mortgage Willy, but my mortgage lender switched  
all their advertisements from pasty skinned WASP's to Latino/Mexican/ 
South American looking models about three or four YEARS ago. Wake up  
dude. They were the ones they wanted to grab, get money from and then  
have Uncle Sam (i.e. you and me) pick up the tab.

Isn't this globalization thing SO interesting?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dow Jones, How Low Can You Go?

2008-10-10 Thread Vaj

On Oct 10, 2008, at 5:39 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

 Nothing's gonna change my world,

 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Change and hope. Hope and change.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Hope and change. Change and hope.
 Chope and chope. Chope and chope.
 Chope and change. Hope and chope.
 Chope and chope.
 Change.
 Hope.
 Chope!

Chump.


[FairfieldLife] The Palins' un-American activities

2008-10-10 Thread do.rflex



 Vogler's [founder of the Alaska Independence Party]
 greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance 
 before the United Nations to denounce United States 
 tyranny before the entire world and to demand Alaska's   
 freedom. 
 
 The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of 
 Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

 That's right … Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker 
 of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and 
 Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we 
 diplomatically engage. 

 That Iran.


 
The Palins' un-American activities

Imagine if the Obamas had hooked up with a violently anti-American
group in league with the government of Iran.

By David Talbot
Salon.com, Oct. 07, 2008
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/


My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any
means at hand.

This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old
Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to
do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging
anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party.
Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that
her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a
shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. (Keep up the good
work, Palin told AIP members. And God bless you.)

AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark told me recently that Sarah Palin is her
kind of gal. She's Alaskan to the bone ... she sounds just like Joe
Vogler.

So who are these America-haters that the Palins are pallin' around with?

Before his strange murder in 1993, party founder Vogler preached armed
insurrection against the United States of America. 

Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying,
When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red
coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the
biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion.
They think they own [Alaska]. There comes a time when people will
choose to die with honor rather than live with dishonor. That time may
be coming here. 

Our goal is ultimate independence by peaceful means under a minimal
government fully responsive to the people. I hope we don't have to
take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights,
look out, we're ready to die.

This quote is from Coming Into the Country, by John McPhee, who
traipsed around Alaska's remote gold mining country with Vogler for
his 1991 book. The violent-tempered secessionist vowed to McPhee that
if any federal official tried to stop him from polluting Alaska's
rivers with his earth-moving equipment, he would run over him with a
Cat and turn mosquitoes loose on him while he dies.

Vogler wasn't just a blowhard either. He put his secessionist ideas
into action, working to build AIP membership to 20,000 -- an
impressive figure by Alaska standards -- and to elect party member
Walter Hickel as governor in 1990.

Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before
the United Nations to denounce United States tyranny before the
entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist
had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American
harangue.

That's right ... Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American
hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama
for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.

AIP leaders allege that Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow
secessionist, was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he
could reach his U.N. platform. The United States government would
have been deeply embarrassed, by Vogler's U.N. speech, darkly
suggests Clark. And we can't have that, can we?

The Republican ticket is working hard this week to make Barack Obama's
tenuous connection to graying, '60s revolutionary Bill Ayers a major
campaign issue. But the Palins' connection to anti-American extremism
is much more central to their political biographies.

Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a
black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from
the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his
cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an
explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was
videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted
support just months ago.

Where's the outrage, Sarah Palin has been asking this week, in her
attacks on Obama's fuzzy ties to Ayers? The question is more
appropriate when applied to her own disturbing associations.







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2008-10-10 Thread FFL PostCount
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee, was: Fly on the wall

2008-10-10 Thread lurkernomore20002000


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, housemousenet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Coffee is a favorite subject of mine -- although I rarely drink it now
 because I find that any more than once a month with it, my nerves get
 exhausted...

In other words,  my bulemia nervosa kicks in, and I afraid I might gain
weight from 80 all the way  up to 84 lbs.

 Usually I have a mocha java at 2nd st only once a month, if that.
then,
 I seem to channel the extra nerves into appreciating the previously
 gained refinement of loving life, and the life-changing experience and
 results of housecleaning... 2 positive directions.

God forbid you should have sex.  You would probably die.  Literally.

 2nd street cafe I prefer because of the great friendship I find there,

My best (only) friends are the barista and his helpers.


 but for the best drip coffee in town I remember that it was Petit
 Paris's organic custom-blended coffee.

Please now don't start talking about wine.

If you're having a special
 dinner or party, I recommend dishing out their asking price for a
pound
 of their coffee beans. No, I don't get a commission :)

Oh, that is so funny. (and original)

But if you like
 Petit Paris's coffee, post back!

Oh yes.  This is most excitement you have had all year.

 I find that when I use to drink everyday, I said it was to get things
 done. But I find perhaps more is achieved in time without it -- go
 figure.

This is just fascinating.  Let's have a party in your mouth.  Everybody
can come.




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   Not in FF: http://www.cafeparadiso.net/
 
  That's fine if you like espresso. Personally, I prefer drip coffee,
  and the last time I was in Paradiso (some years ago), they only
served
  espresso. I only drink coffee once a week, on Saturday mornings, and
  lately I've been getting it at University Amoco. I used to get it at
  2nd Street, but they open too late, and they seem to have gotten lax
  about cleaning the equipment. Nothing worse than coffee brewed in
  equipment full of rancid oils.
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] San Francisco and Buddhism

2008-10-10 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
In this new edition (2007) of his acclaimed autobiography — long out of print 
and rare until now — Alan Watts tracks his spiritual and philosophical 
evolution from a child of religious conservatives in rural England to a 
freewheeling spiritual teacher who challenged Westerners to defy convention and 
think for themselves. From early in this intellectual life, Watts shows himself 
to be a philosophical renegade and wide-ranging autodidact who came to Buddhism 
through the teachings of Christmas Humphreys and D. T. Suzuki. Told in a 
nonlinear style, In My Own Way wonderfully combines Watts’ own brand of 
unconventional philosophy and often hilarious accounts of gurus, celebrities, 
psychedelic drug experiences, and wry observations of Western culture. A 
charming foreword written by Watts’ father sets the tone of this warm, funny, 
and beautifully written story of a compelling figure who encouraged readers to 
'follow your own weird' — something he
 always did himself, as his remarkable account of his life shows.  --Amazon
--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] San Francisco and Buddhism
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 5:08 PM









On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Chadwick wrote:







How anyone can write an article about Buddhism in SF in the 1950's and not 
mention Alan Watts is beyond me:  beginning in 1951 he was the only person in 
SF making a living at the academic teaching of Buddhism, first as a professor, 
then later as the academic dean, of what was at the time called the American 
Academy Asian Studies.  Certainly everyone mentioned in the article would have 
deferred to Watts in any intellectual discussion of Buddhism, including 
little Suzukihttp://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Suzuki_Roshi.  And oh yeah, in 
1957 Watts had published The Way of Zen, which now more than fifty years later 
remains the best introduction to Zen in a western language. 



While Watts had a reputation as a writer and speaker/teacher, did he speak from 
realization? If not, maybe that's why. I never had much interest in him, 
although I know the older generation had some enamoured with his writings. I 
always imagined a stodgy old Brit from what little I'd read and thereby lost 
interest.


Or perhaps the article was meant to emphasize those the author had some 
personal or indirect relationship to. I don't really know. 














  

[FairfieldLife] McCAIN CAMPAIGN -- TOTAL MELTDOWN ! ! !

2008-10-10 Thread off_world_beings

McCAIN CAMPAIGN  -- TOTAL MELTDOWN  !  !  !

Watch and see the end of the Neocon Era in action...

FANTASTIC ! ! !...John McCain's last chance to redeem some credibility
before going DOWN ! ! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

OffWorld



Re: [FairfieldLife] McCAIN CAMPAIGN -- TOTAL MELTDOWN ! ! !

2008-10-10 Thread gullible fool


 
Scary. I hope at least some of McCain's supporters have half a brain.
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] McCAIN CAMPAIGN -- TOTAL MELTDOWN ! ! !
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:36 PM







McCAIN CAMPAIGN  -- TOTAL MELTDOWN  !  !  !
Watch and see the end of the Neocon Era in action...
FANTASTIC ! ! !...John McCain's last chance to redeem some credibility before 
going DOWN ! ! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE
OffWorld 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban

2008-10-10 Thread gullible fool


 
There, you see, Sal? I told you only Richard could answer these kinds of 
advanced ponderings.
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 7:55 AM

  I never claimed to have graduated from MUM 
  or to have even attended there. Or maybe 
  you mean not graduating from MUM makes one 
  a fraud, in which case I have quite a lot 
  of company.
 
Sal wrote:
 If you graduated from MIU, are you also a 
 fraud? Or a fraudette?
 
Well, I'd say that if you were not a student at
MUM, but you posed as one, for the purposes of
accreditation, then you're a fraudulent student.

If you're a student at MUM and you have not
graduated after 25 years, then I'd say that the 
teachers are probably frauds. 

If you graduated from MUM, then you'd be a MUM 
graduate.

If you're a teacher at MUM and you live in a
local trailer park, then I'd say that you were
really dedicated. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee, was: Fly on the wall

2008-10-10 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, housemousenet ebooks@
 wrote:
 
  Coffee is a favorite subject of mine -- although I rarely drink it now
  because I find that any more than once a month with it, my nerves get
  exhausted...
 
 In other words,  my bulemia nervosa kicks in, and I afraid I might gain
 weight from 80 all the way  up to 84 lbs.
 
  Usually I have a mocha java at 2nd st only once a month, if that.
 then,
  I seem to channel the extra nerves into appreciating the previously
  gained refinement of loving life, and the life-changing experience and
  results of housecleaning... 2 positive directions.
 
 God forbid you should have sex.  You would probably die.  Literally.
 
  2nd street cafe I prefer because of the great friendship I find there,
 
 My best (only) friends are the barista and his helpers.
 
 
  but for the best drip coffee in town I remember that it was Petit
  Paris's organic custom-blended coffee.
 
 Please now don't start talking about wine.
 
 If you're having a special
  dinner or party, I recommend dishing out their asking price for a
 pound
  of their coffee beans. No, I don't get a commission :)
 
 Oh, that is so funny. (and original)
 
 But if you like
  Petit Paris's coffee, post back!
 
 Oh yes.  This is most excitement you have had all year.
 
  I find that when I use to drink everyday, I said it was to get things
  done. But I find perhaps more is achieved in time without it -- go
  figure.
 
 This is just fascinating.  Let's have a party in your mouth.  Everybody
 can come.
 
 

Jeez, Lurk, who pissed in your organic, low-fat kamut flakes this morning?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee, was: Fly on the wall

2008-10-10 Thread authfriend
Lurk, WTF is wrong with you?? This is totally
uncalled-for. If you're not interested in
coffee talk, don't read the posts. No need to
dump on a perfectly nice person.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, housemousenet ebooks@
 wrote:
 
  Coffee is a favorite subject of mine -- although I rarely drink 
it now
  because I find that any more than once a month with it, my nerves 
get
  exhausted...
 
 In other words,  my bulemia nervosa kicks in, and I afraid I might 
gain
 weight from 80 all the way  up to 84 lbs.
 
  Usually I have a mocha java at 2nd st only once a month, if that.
 then,
  I seem to channel the extra nerves into appreciating the 
previously
  gained refinement of loving life, and the life-changing 
experience and
  results of housecleaning... 2 positive directions.
 
 God forbid you should have sex.  You would probably die.  Literally.
 
  2nd street cafe I prefer because of the great friendship I find 
there,
 
 My best (only) friends are the barista and his helpers.
 
 
  but for the best drip coffee in town I remember that it was Petit
  Paris's organic custom-blended coffee.
 
 Please now don't start talking about wine.
 
 If you're having a special
  dinner or party, I recommend dishing out their asking price for a
 pound
  of their coffee beans. No, I don't get a commission :)
 
 Oh, that is so funny. (and original)
 
 But if you like
  Petit Paris's coffee, post back!
 
 Oh yes.  This is most excitement you have had all year.
 
  I find that when I use to drink everyday, I said it was to get 
things
  done. But I find perhaps more is achieved in time without it -- 
go
  figure.
 
 This is just fascinating.  Let's have a party in your mouth.  
Everybody
 can come.
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
  j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
   
Not in FF: http://www.cafeparadiso.net/
  
   That's fine if you like espresso. Personally, I prefer drip 
coffee,
   and the last time I was in Paradiso (some years ago), they only
 served
   espresso. I only drink coffee once a week, on Saturday 
mornings, and
   lately I've been getting it at University Amoco. I used to get 
it at
   2nd Street, but they open too late, and they seem to have 
gotten lax
   about cleaning the equipment. Nothing worse than coffee brewed 
in
   equipment full of rancid oils.
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Coffee, was: Fly on the wall

2008-10-10 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 10, 2008, at 7:20 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, housemousenet [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


 Coffee is a favorite subject of mine -- although I rarely drink  
it now
 because I find that any more than once a month with it, my nerves  
get

 exhausted...

In other words,  my bulemia nervosa kicks in, and I afraid I might  
gain weight from 80 all the way  up to 84 lbs.




You know, I was thinking pretty much along those
same lines, lurk, but couldn't quite put it into
words.   Such delicate flowers we have here
on FF Life...coffee more than once a month
does them in?  How do they deal with, you
know, life?

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You are the instruments that God is gonna 
 use to bring about universal change, and 
 that is why Barack has captured the youth. 
 And he has involved young people in a 
 political process that they didn't care 
 anything about. That's a sign. When the 
 Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and 
 the Messiah is absolutely speaking. 
 - Louis Farrakhan
 
 Read more:
 
 'Obama as the Messiah?'
 By P.J. Gladnick
 Newsbusters, October 9, 2008 
 http://tinyurl.com/4aw6rm

Incredibly reminiscent of Jim Jones' cult following; I think Rev Wright
is also into Black Liberation Theology: 
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/day/2008-10-08




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting Ban

2008-10-10 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:53 PM, gullible fool wrote:



There, you see, Sal? I told you only Richard could answer these  
kinds of advanced ponderings.


He pondered himself right out of the group for a week...

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama is the Black Messiah?

2008-10-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Oct 10, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
 
  Vaj wrote:
  I have to chuckle when I see a faltering
  mortgage industry who's given over 5 million
  sub-prime loans to illegal aliens (many who've
  absconded or changed names, SS#'s)...but won't
  give those same loans to the African American
  community. The elite always love a slave class
  and keeping a people in economic slavery is
  but one way.
 
  But it was ACORN that supported giving sub-prime
  loans to the African American community. Illegal
  aliens can't get bank loans to buy houses.
 
 Tell that to the over 5 million that defaultedthey
 all had ahem Social Security Numbers...

Documentation, please, for the 5 million [illegal
aliens] that defaulted? (Note that above you say
it was 5 million loans to illegal aliens. Now all
of a sudden it's 5 million who *defaulted*. Did 
you miswrite, perhaps, in your anxiety about scary
brown people who weren't born here taking over the
country?)

Willytex is wrong, of course, that illegal aliens
can't get bank loans to buy houses. They don't
use a Social Security number but an ITIN, Individual
Taxpayer Identification Number; those loans are
called ITIN loans for that reason.




[FairfieldLife] Re: San Francisco and Buddhism

2008-10-10 Thread bob_brigante

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 In this new edition (2007) of his acclaimed autobiography — long
out of print and rare until now — Alan Watts tracks his spiritual
and philosophical evolution from a child of religious conservatives in
rural England to a freewheeling spiritual teacher who challenged
Westerners to defy convention and think for themselves. From early in
this intellectual life, Watts shows himself to be a philosophical
renegade and wide-ranging autodidact who came to Buddhism through the
teachings of Christmas Humphreys and D. T. Suzuki. Told in a nonlinear
style, In My Own Way wonderfully combines Watts' own brand of
unconventional philosophy and often hilarious accounts of gurus,
celebrities,



psychedelic drug experiences,

*



Back in 1967, I got an invite to a party at Alan Watt's house. I didn't
go, but my friends told me he had a huge bowl of filter-tipped marijuana
cigarettes, which I thought was unusually  bobo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobos_in_Paradise  .














and wry observations of Western culture. A charming foreword written by
Watts' father sets the tone of this warm, funny, and beautifully
written story of a compelling figure who encouraged readers to 'follow
your own weird' — something he
 always did himself, as his remarkable account of his life shows. 
--Amazon
 --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] San Francisco and Buddhism
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 5:08 PM









 On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Jonathan Chadwick wrote:







 How anyone can write an article about Buddhism in SF in the 1950's and
not mention Alan Watts is beyond me:  beginning in 1951 he was the only
person in SF making a living at the academic teaching of Buddhism, first
as a professor, then later as the academic dean, of what was at the time
called the American Academy Asian Studies.  Certainly everyone mentioned
in the article would have deferred to Watts in any intellectual
discussion of Buddhism, including little Suzukihttp://en.wikipedia
.org/wiki/ Suzuki_Roshi.  And oh yeah, in 1957 Watts had published The
Way of Zen, which now more than fifty years later remains the best
introduction to Zen in a western language.



 While Watts had a reputation as a writer and speaker/teacher, did he
speak from realization? If not, maybe that's why. I never had much
interest in him, although I know the older generation had some enamoured
with his writings. I always imagined a stodgy old Brit from what little
I'd read and thereby lost interest.


 Or perhaps the article was meant to emphasize those the author had
some personal or indirect relationship to. I don't really know.





[FairfieldLife] The McCain/Bill Ayers Connection'

2008-10-10 Thread Robert

Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 1:39 PM







John McCain wants to scapegoat the whole ugly Viet Nam fiasco, on Bill Ayers?
His hatred of the 'enemy' who tortured him for five years...
McCain does have 'flash-backs'; is this just a Viet Nam flash-back?
Lyndon Johnson, continued the war, when his own people told him it was a 
mistake.
Who cause all of the domestic agitation of the Sixties?
You can't blame Viet Nam on Bill Ayers!
McCain needs to take responsibility of thinking war and hate is the answer.
John McCain votes against MLK's holiday.
Perhaps he wants to drive hate speech against King, also?
What about Mohammad Ali; was Viet Nam his fault, too?
Why doesn't John McCain check out 'The Wall' in Washington D.C.
He will find many names there, of comrades who died...absolutely for no reason.
He should be directing his hate, elsewhere!
 
Robert Gimbel  Madison, Wisconsin.



  

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