[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You obviously missed the point of the post. Arnold was a sexist pig and got away with despicable BEHAVIOR, molesting women. He posed naked and no one cared, we just admired his manly muscles, the picture of power and virility. Sarah wore a modest bathing suit to win a college scholarship and she became an object of ridicule. See the difference? Well, I think you just made my point for me: men and women are judged differently... AND... just because a country elects one or more female national leaders doesn't mean that the country treats women in general better than the USA. In fact, I could argue the exact opposite based on most countries I can think of off-hand who have elected female leaders in the last 100 years. Think about it: which famous elected national leaders have been female? Which countries have they been from? Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Comment by lightacandle | 2008-11-20 10:54:16 [...] But with Arnold Schwarzenegger, it seems he could do any OBNOXIOUS thing and the cheers would go on and on and on � because he is not Agnes Schwarzenegger (who would have been laughed off the public scene if she had run with Arnold's non-existent political resume) � he is Arnold, so everything is hunky-dory. Why are people surprised that women are judged by different standards of attractiveness (one of the primary requisites for winning ANY kind of popularity contest) than men are? . . . Would you want your MOTHER to look and behave like Ahnold? More important, would you want your TV stars to look like Ahnold? Here's a chance to put that to the text. It's an article and a film clip (a very funny and telling film clip) from Heavy.com (supposedly a men's entertainment website) starring four female bodybuilders in Flex And The City, a recreation of the opening credits of and a classic scene from Sex And The City. The insipid dialog (which could have been written by our own Raunchydog if she could write any- thing herself, instead of reposting the ideas of others) takes on new meaning when delivered by women who are in better shape than any of the men reading this, and who could crush their skulls like an eggshell: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/05/sex_and_the_city_with_female_b.html or http://tinyurl.com/6f4x8a I found it very funny and instructive indeed. And I'll admit to having had a girlfriend once who was an Olympic athlete (although she was a fencer, and not as pumped up as these gals), so I don't find them unattractive at all. In fact, I love that they're able to deliver the dialog of SatC as well or better than the original cast. Following a link in the article, I found other fun parodies at the same website like one called (Over) The Hills, which seems to be a geriatric satire of an MTV series, The Hills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZqW-0zD6Ok There is also a profile of Brother Casare Bonizzi, an Italian Capuchin monk who sings in a death metal band in his spare time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aly_qWmRZUI And (especially for Raunchydog) there is Hott 4 Hill, Taryn Southern's tremendous music-video love song to her favorite pantsuited hottie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sudw4ghVe8 The last one is actually fabulous, one of the best-produced music videos I've seen in some time. Whoever Taryn Southern is, she's got talent, even if she does have odd taste in derrieres.
[FairfieldLife] Should I sell or hold? : )
(Geosentric Oyj [= Corporation?] was originally Benefon Oyj which departed[?] from Nokia Corp. at the end 1980's) GEOSENTRIC OYJ INTERIM REPORT 21.11.2008 at 12:00 hrs INTERIM REPORT 1-9/2008 Contents Summary of key figures and results Significant events in the period Samsung multi-year worldwide partnership agreement China Ramar bundled OEM Distribution Agreement Intel Mobile Internet Device Support and partnership GyPSii signs agreement with Nanjing MyNet Ltd., for mobile social networking initiatives with world's largest mobile network provider, China Mobile snip 1. Summary of key figures As per the last quarter's interim report (1-6/2008), financial results continued to improve. Net sales of the Company in period 1-9/2008 were 3210 teuros. Costs of revenue were substantially decreased from that of the same period in the prior year 2007, going to 2342 teuros from 5114 teuros, a 54% reduction. Majority revenue was derived from the Twig product segment, with GyPSii segment revenues derived from recently announced agreements representing a minority of the recognized revenue for the period. Consequently, gross margin for the reporting period was positive, at 868 teuros, compared to -1571 teuros in the same period in the prior year 2007, representing a material turnaround in generating positive gross margin. Additionally, Operating expenses were improved in the reporting period compared to the prior year reporting period, going to 9567 teuros, from 13637 teuros, a 30% improvement. As a result, the earnings before taxes were -8605 teuros, versus -15484 teuros in the same period of the prior year, a 44 % improvement. Result per share for the reporting period was -0.01 euros per share. 2. Significant events in period July through September/2008 The Company made multiple significant announcements in period 7-9/2008 concerning its GyPSii geo-mobility social networking platform, along with a material financing event: (a) In July the Company announced a multi-year worldwide agreement with Samsung, a leader, 2nd to Nokia, in global market share for mobile phones. Under the terms of the agreement, GeoSentric will provide technology, products, worldwide data center infrastructure, and GyPSii branding rights to Samsung, on a worldwide non-exclusive basis for a range of Samsung products. GeoSentric's leading mobility digital lifestyle application, GyPSii, will be initially bundled on Samsung's Omnia (SGH-i900) and SGH-i780 as an embedded application. Samsung's customers will be able to take full advantage of the location-based social networking digital lifestyle features of the GyPSii suite and create and share user generated content (UGC) with GyPSii's global user community, and other interoperable social networks such as Facebook. The agreement has provisions for revenue sharing between GyPSii and Samsung, utilizing the business models enabled by GyPSii. The GyPSii application will be made available to users in numerous local languages, with GyPSii providing the global infrastructure and operating platform to Samsung customers. GyPSii's PlaceRank technology is planned to be utilized to deliver highly contextual and personally relevant user generated content, regional POI (points of interest) and location-targeted advertising to GyPSii members. (b) In August the company announced a pre-bundled Distribution Agreement with Ramar, an electronics and manufacturing organization based in China supplying OEM or ODMs with GPS navigation and mobile phones. The agreement has provisions for revenue sharing between GeoSentric and Ramar. GyPSii will be available on amsam devices in both Traditional and Simplified Chinese. Ramar will promote and distribute the GyPSii-enabled phones directly from its own stores, and also via retail partners across China. The deal includes provisions for GyPSii revenue streams from both IPR (intellectual property rights) licenses and mobile Geo-advertising business models. GyPSii's PlaceRank and Geo-Advertising technology will be utilized to deliver highly contextual and personally relevant user generated content, regional POI (points of
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Shiva Sutras'
Vaj wrote: It helps to have an experiential understanding of the different states of consciousness being expressed in the two different types of texts, The transcendental state is the state being discussed in the Shiva Sutras and there is only one transcendental state of consciousness. You can get an experiential unsterstanding of the transcendental state by practicing transcendental meditation. yoga and nondualism. They're different states of consciousness. According to the Shiva Sutras, there are three states of conciousness, Trika, but there is also a fourth state, Turiya, the non-dual state. The purpose of practicing yoga is to experience this non-dual state. Although one can intellectually understand it, it really is only clear if you are actually experientially familiar with the states of consciousness and their POV. You can read the Shiva Sutras and you can read commentaries by the Lachsmanjoo, but until you've reached the transcendental state, you will not understand the non-dual state of Turiya. To the ignorant it would just sound like nit-picking. Only the ignorant need to nit-pick - especaiily those who have not experienced the transcendent, and those who cannot read Sanskrit and those who do not understand that the peractice of TM is the best and fasted way to reach the transcendent. Wise men like the Swami Lachsmanjoo practice TM as taught by the Marshy, THEN they expound on the various states of consciousness and read the sutras. Ignorant people like Vaj like to nit-pick about the differences between the Trika and the Sri Vidya, not understanding that they are both the same and that the Marshy's TM is the actual practicum of both.
[FairfieldLife] Ann Coulter reduced to pitching scams for political wacko Mormon
How the mighty do fall: Ann Coulter pitching right-wing stock-tip scams By David Neiwert Crooks Liars, Nov 20, 2008 http://crooksandliars.com/node/24190 I'm sure a lot of you were wondering what happened to Ann Coulter this election season. The right has trotted her out to wage culture wars reliably ever since 1998. But she hardly was visible at all this year. Well, if you happen to be one of those lost souls who belongs to the Conservative Book Club, then you received one of these e-mails in your Inbox this week from Coulter. [See letter at website link above] As you can see, it's a letter that starts out by teeing off the emerging right-wing meme attempting to blame Barack Obama for the current economic meltdown, mostly by noting that Wall Street firms donated more heavily to Obama's campaign than to John McCain's: If you've been wondering why the financial industry is in meltdown -- and taking your 401(k) or investment portfolio down with it -- now you know. Let's face it: The former frat boys who populate Wall Street today understand economics as well as the pinko professors whose courses they snored through. Now, it's true that Democrats were heavily preferred by Wall Street campaign donors this year, but that has far more to do with their historic preference for lining up behind the perceived likely winners of a given election season. And even a blind pig -- or a right-wing pundit -- could sense before the season even started that the Republican brand was giving off the distinct odor of fetid slop. But if those same Wall Street pinko-educated frat boys are as ignorant of economics this year as Coulter claims, then wouldn't they have been equally so in 2000 and 2004, when they gave heavily instead to Coulter's then-preferred candidate, George W. Bush? Something doesn't exactly add up here. That's all just throat-clearing, though, for Coulter's main pitch: She's selling you a financial newsletter written by a fellow named Mark Skousen, whose PhD in economics seems to impress Coulter mightily (if only she gave as much credence to people who actually won the Nobel Prize in economics). Three years ago, Skousen was selling the same scam through the Heritage Foundation, promising super-hot stock tips if only you subscribed to his pricey investment newsletter. No word on how that hot tech stock actually did -- but I'd wager it performed about as well the return on assisting former Nigerian prime ministers. Skousen, however, is not just your average conservative economist. He actually is an adherent of the same far-right school of libertarian economics as Ron Paul: he advocates a return to the gold standard, the dismantling of the IRS and the Federal Reserve, and most of the other conspiratorial nonsense that accompanies these theories. Like Paul, he's a devotee of the Ludwig Van Mises Institute, which promotes much of this malarkey, and he's likewise actually a Bircherite in libertarian clothing. Indeed, Paul was one of the headliners at Skousen's FreedomFest earlier this year in Las Vegas. Like most of the Bircher wing of the libertarian movement, Skousen consistently takes a far-right political position on labor issues, too. He wrote a piece denouncing card check union organizing just last month. Skousen is the nephew of the late noted John Birch/Mormon figure W. Cleon Skousen; his brother, Joel Skousen, is famous for promoting Patriot-style New World Order conspiracy theories. All three of them promote the far-right version of constitutionalism, which is all about the belief that secret elites manipulate the economy and the political process, wield the IRS and Federal Reserve as political weapons along with a huge federal bureaucracy, all of which violates the original unamended (or organic) Constitution. So this is what Ann Coulter is reduced to these days: Shilling for Patriot-style right-wing moneymaking scams. But then, I guess it isn't surprising that Coulter is heading down this same path. During the past campaign, she actually came out in support of Ron Paul. Well, fools and their money are soon parted. And anyone foolish enough to take their investment advice from Ann Coulter will get everything they deserve. But I'm wondering when we'll see Coulter turn up in late-night infomercials for gold Liberty Dollars with her own image stamped on them. Because that's the road -- the one leading to ignominious obscurity and irrelevance -- she's headed down. And I can't think of a more deserved fate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I think you just made my point for me: men and women are judged differently... AND... Lawson, I'm not arguing that women are judged differently, but unfairly for differences based on cultural prejudices we attach to appearance. Arnold shows skin, and we are cultured to believe this is a manly display of his prowess. Therefore, he is a serious candidate for political office. Sarah shows skin and we are cultured to believe a woman who uses her beauty to get ahead must be too stupid to advance herself otherwise. Therefore, she is not a serious candidate for political office and deserves ridicule. just because a country elects one or more female national leader doesn't mean that the country treats women in general better than the USA. In fact, I could argue the exact opposite based on most countries I can think of off-hand who have elected female leaders in the last 100 years. Think about it: which famous elected national leaders have been female? Which countries have they been from? Answer your own question by providing specific references. Then ask what was in each woman's history that made it possible for her to gain high political office? What was the political climate of her county at the time? What were the cultural values and attitudes that allowed her to have status and respect? Did her county evaluate her worth in terms of makeup, lipstick, hair, cleavage, thighs, ass, pantsuits, wrinkles, flawless skin, laugh, voice, gestures, and facial expressions? Was she inspected, ridiculed, and criticized for her appearance or behavior? In our country, we have ridiculous standards and attitudes toward women based on scripted, superficial images of celebrity. Sex appeal or denigration of women for perceived lack of it is profitable. MSNBC's ratings went up every time Chris Matthews' leg tingled for Obama and he ridiculed Hillary. The Ad Man markets, packages, formulates and directs our attitudes toward women. Inundated by images of women as sex objects, everyone can agree that sex sells in America. No offense ladies, it's just business. The richest country in the world uses women for fun and profit. Like Pavlov's dogs, we have learned to mindlessly accept that it's funny to belittle a woman for her sex. In countries that have not benefited from commercialization of women, it's easier for a woman to rise politically. If the consciousness of her country is unencumbered by cultural images of a woman, impossible for any woman to attain, she enjoys respect and status, without which she cannot become a political leader.
[FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLZ08.NYM I use the above link 2 or 3 times a day because I need SOMETHING to cheer about. It's a Yahoo! link to the price of oil. Last time I checked (10 minutes ago) it was at about $48.00 which is pretty incredible considering that it was $147.00 not too long ago!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger
Raunchy, The culture of micro-analysis of women's appearance is straight women culture. No man inspects women the way women inspect women. Most of the trappings of a woman being put together are things only women care about. I have never in my life heard a man say did ya see the fingernails on that chick? Women do that stuff for themselves and other women. (This includes all eye makeup except mascara. Men do NOT need to see some color over your eyes.) If you want to lecture some group about being too interested in how a woman looks superficially start with straight women wy before you get to the guys. But men are not off the hook in another way. We get evaluated on our manliness. Dennis Kusinich is ridiculed for being an elf, Edwards is a pretty boy who got in trouble for how much he paid for a haircut because we don't trust pretty boys, Howard Dean got canned for an unmanly shriek. Each gender has different expectations but anyone in public life has to play the game. And everybody goes though the gender grinder. (That sounds kinda sexy!) Your comparison between Palin's beauty contest walk and Arnold's body building career is bogus and comes from you not understanding the sport of body building. It took Arnold years of effort to create the physique he revealed in his trained poses. (You try to flex every muscle at once as you move from position to position to understand how difficult this sport is.) If Palin got any flack for her beauty walk it was for the fact that she just put on a suit. Her beauty walk was not a result of effort and dedication. She looked like what she was, a basketball jock in a bathing suit. Some of the women in contests today are fitness freaks and when they do the walk it shows effort and dedication. So yes, her entering a contest and putting on a suit was a sign of her not being a very serious person at that age. Arnold was busy completely revolutionizing a growing sport when he won his international trophies. No comparison. If Arnold was me in a speedo during his contests he would get the raspberry too. (Many apologies for that frightful image.) Women and men who are hot learn to use it. They learn that it is sometimes a plus and sometimes a minus but on the whole it opens a lot of doors for them. This is true for good looking guys up to the point that they start looking too pretty. It is deep in our genetic benefit as a species for women to want men who are fit and competent and for men to want to breed with women who are the same. Every plus has a minus in society. So women and men of each age need to cash in on how their looks help and hurt. I used to look too young as a young adult man. It caused me trouble in business sometimes. Now I've got the salt and pepper hair and people take me a bit more seriously, but I became invisible to 20 something women! Oh well, that age group is more trouble than they are worth anyway, so I have to suck it up and move with the changes. I've noticed that men and women my age go through this identity change and everybody handles it differently. Women discover that men no longer notice them to hold the door for them. They don't find guys quite as eager to help them in stores after a lifetime of men falling all over themselves to assist. Guys like me stop getting the furtive glance from 20 something women (unless they are practicing or hate their dads) and we have to acknowledge this gracefully and not be bitter about it, not blame women for doing what is natural. That's OK cuz if you are not bitter, you can find a person who matches your stage of life and continue the party. So I'm saying Viva la Difference! Each gender has their own crosses to bear, but we work great together. Political people are gunna get sandblasted by ALL our judgments. It is how they handle that which tells us who has the right stuff. And we just decided to elect the guy with the big ears and the beyond George Hamilton tan. It's all good as long as we never hear him give a girlie shriek. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Well, I think you just made my point for me: men and women are judged differently... AND... Lawson, I'm not arguing that women are judged differently, but unfairly for differences based on cultural prejudices we attach to appearance. Arnold shows skin, and we are cultured to believe this is a manly display of his prowess. Therefore, he is a serious candidate for political office. Sarah shows skin and we are cultured to believe a woman who uses her beauty to get ahead must be too stupid to advance herself otherwise. Therefore, she is not a serious candidate for political office and deserves ridicule. just because a country elects one or more female national leader doesn't mean that the country treats women in general better than the USA. In fact, I could argue the exact opposite
[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment by lightacandle | 2008-11-20 10:54:16 Shirley Chisholm, the first black woman to serve in Congress and the first woman to seek the Democratic presidential nomination, said I've always met more discrimination being a woman than being black, Redd Foxx had a bit about Shirley Chisholm in his comedy routine which kinda underscores this: Shirley Chisholm is our Eleanor Roosevelt. She's the all-time ugliest Black woman. It will be a disaster if she becomes president. Why? Because at some point they'll put her face on a postage stamp and I shudder at the thought of having to lick Shirley Chisholm. The feisty Chisholm also put it this way: being female put more obstacles in my path than being black. I'm not sure which is the more accurate version of the quote but maybe both are correct, since I am sure Shirley Chisholm spoke about this issue more than once. So, keeping Shirley Chisholm's observations in mind, I ask you to ponder this question: Would Arnold Schwarzenegger ever have been elected governor of California, the state with the largest population, if he had been a woman? Arnold or let's call him Agnes had NO political experience, had never run for or held any public office before, had posed naked for photographs that showed up online during his campaign but that didn't seem to faze the media boys and girls nor did the FACT that Arnold had posed for studio photographs with a large-breasted naked woman sitting on his shoulders. (Yet, it truly seemed to inflame SOME people that Sarah Palin had once entered a beauty contest dressed in a demure one-piece bathing suit, hoping to win scholarship money so she could complete her college education. ) Those photos of the naked Arnold with the naked woman on his shoulders were widely available on the Internet before Arnold was elected. Imagine if a woman running for office had posed nude; do you think she would have been elected to anything? We would have heard howls about morals and what will we tell the children? Arnold had also been accused by many women of fondling them against their wishes the uproar became so loud his wife finally had to come forward to defend him as a good person. Arnold KNEW the women who had accused him were on firm ground, and so he apologized to all the many women he had fondled against their wishes. There was another Arnold scandal that came out during his campaign that got press but no one seemed to think it a big deal. I actually think it is much worse than the stuff mentioned above but, hey, that's just me. In the '80s at that point when he was just starting to become a movie star, he went on the Johnnie Carson Show. As is usual with these things, Johnnie edged him in to telling interesting anecdotes about his life before he became famous. Arnold related that to support his bodybuilding in the early days, he and another European started a contracting business in California because Americans were so dumb that if you were European they automatically assumed that you knew what you were doing. So Arnold related that in order to get business, he used to tell the prospects that he had to check their roofs. Once up on the roofs, he said, he would make sure no one was looking and then he would purposely make a hole in the roof or knock a brick out of place in order to show the prospect that they needed his services. In other words, fraud. STILL, the voters had NO problem electing Arnold governor and, then, touting him for the U.S. presidency if we would just amend the Constitution to make that event possible. In his first two years as Calif. governor, Arnold managed to anger just about every group that wasn't representing Big Business, but finally had to change his ways and alter his policies when the turmoil grew to be too great. But NONE of that kept the media and many voters from saying we should change the U.S. Constitution, so Arnold could run for president and they were sure he'd be a shoo-in, since he had won the Calif. election so easily. Well, after a few years with Arnold as governor, Calif. is on the brink of bankruptcy and is hoping to get a BAILOUT from the federal government. On the other hand, Gov, Sarah Palin has been governor of Alaska for almost two years, and Alaska is doing fine. But NONE of those facts kept the media goons and many other people from persistently holding Sarah Palin to a different standard than Arnold, ridiculing her and accusing her of saying and doing things she NEVER said or did. I was at a meeting recently where someone started ranting that Palin had tried to burn books to keep people from reading them. Sarah Palin NEVER asked the Wasilla librarian to ban ANY books and, in fact, that librarian has stated that she was NEVER asked to ban any books. The topic had
[FairfieldLife] Smackdown on Curtis and final post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip DC is way more racist than Vermont has ever been. Which was exactly my point about your use of terms that cause trouble here that you seem to know nothing about. DC Talk - Colored People http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_iwEhSG-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_iwEhSG-8 OffWorld You really aren't much of a language nuance guy are you? But hey girls, I didn't watch the thing dumbass. I could't stomach it after 5 seconds. You are the only one that did watch it ! Lol, you're gay aren't you? No really, you are, admit it. There is nothing wrong with it, just be honest with yourself now. Curtis, you are so out of touch if you think a colored person likes being called 'black'. You will find that term gets changed to people of color or colored people. Black is derogatory. Many people are half white and black, or half hispanic or asian and black or asian-white etc . It is derogatory to Tiger Wood's mother to call him black. He is colored. There are no black people, and there are no white people. I'm an artist, and if I have to use white in a portrait is is because the person is dead. If I have to use pure black, it is because it is a pitch black night and I only want to show a silhouette. Black and white are terms people are not comfortable with, but you are behind the times. You are totally out of touch if you think that if you have a conversation with a black friend of yours about all these terms as I described it above and see what they say about it. But wait, you don't have any black friends. You are afraid of colored people. No really Curtis. If you have a black friend go have a good conversation with him/her. Ask them what terms they prefer, then ask a mixed race person, half asian, half african. What about a an african asian white mix, who has some vague features of african left over? You are offensive to that person to call them black. If you don't have any black friends then you will not get back to us about this will you. You are so old school. The racial divide is coming to an end Curtis, but you want it to continue. It is offensive to call mixed race people black or white, or minority. You know I am right, but your ego is a big fat blubber of toxic waste and you can't get around its grotesque form. I am not white either by the way. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Shemp has no Colored friends
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Vermont has .5% black and 96.8% white. Not in my county. There are many colored people (I consider the term 'black' to be a racist term) [snip] Here's a novel concept for you, Offal: it's not what YOU want to call African-Americans, it's what THEY want to be called. That's why no one here believes you when you tell us that: 1) you have African-American friends; and 2) that you told them Obama is moving to The Black House and that they don't mind you referring to them as colored. You obviously have no colored friends Shemp. I have several, and more than half of them take offence at being called black or African American. It is derogatory to Tiger Woods mother to call Tiger black, and I have heard many people say that they hate being called black or African American because they are not, even though they may have some African in them down the line. They are neither African, nor black, and many are mixed race and you will see a backlash in society about the terms you think black people like. They do not like these terms. They don't like it Shemp, you are brain-washed by the mainstream media. They are mixed race. If you have black friends go ask them about all this and get back to us. That will be a long wait won't it. I am mixed race too by the way. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Smackdown on Curtis and final post
Why are you lecturing me about my relationships with my black neighbors dude? I live in a completely different culture than you. There is only one other white person in my whole apartment complex. I learned how to relate to my neighbors from them directly, not from an ill wishing stranger on the Internet. Calling me gay makes you look like a regressed teenager. Oh yeah: The racial divide is coming to an end Curtis, but you want it to continue. I'm just gunna let that statement speak for itself without comment. And in what world of conversation that you are in do you ever refer to the race of the person you are talking with in your conversation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip DC is way more racist than Vermont has ever been. Which was exactly my point about your use of terms that cause trouble here that you seem to know nothing about. DC Talk - Colored People http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_iwEhSG-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_iwEhSG-8 OffWorld You really aren't much of a language nuance guy are you? But hey girls, I didn't watch the thing dumbass. I could't stomach it after 5 seconds. You are the only one that did watch it ! Lol, you're gay aren't you? No really, you are, admit it. There is nothing wrong with it, just be honest with yourself now. Curtis, you are so out of touch if you think a colored person likes being called 'black'. You will find that term gets changed to people of color or colored people. Black is derogatory. Many people are half white and black, or half hispanic or asian and black or asian-white etc . It is derogatory to Tiger Wood's mother to call him black. He is colored. There are no black people, and there are no white people. I'm an artist, and if I have to use white in a portrait is is because the person is dead. If I have to use pure black, it is because it is a pitch black night and I only want to show a silhouette. Black and white are terms people are not comfortable with, but you are behind the times. You are totally out of touch if you think that if you have a conversation with a black friend of yours about all these terms as I described it above and see what they say about it. But wait, you don't have any black friends. You are afraid of colored people. No really Curtis. If you have a black friend go have a good conversation with him/her. Ask them what terms they prefer, then ask a mixed race person, half asian, half african. What about a an african asian white mix, who has some vague features of african left over? You are offensive to that person to call them black. If you don't have any black friends then you will not get back to us about this will you. You are so old school. The racial divide is coming to an end Curtis, but you want it to continue. It is offensive to call mixed race people black or white, or minority. You know I am right, but your ego is a big fat blubber of toxic waste and you can't get around its grotesque form. I am not white either by the way. OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil
--- On Fri, 11/21/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 10:51 AM http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLZ08.NYM I use the above link 2 or 3 times a day because I need SOMETHING to cheer about. It's a Yahoo! link to the price of oil. Last time I checked (10 minutes ago) it was at about $48.00 which is pretty incredible considering that it was $147.00 not too long ago! I just filled up my car for $29.00 last night. It wasn't too long ago that it cost over $60 to fill my tank. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Smackdown on Curtis and final post
Smackdown on Curtis A professional phony wrestling reference Off? What, did you write your post on your dad's computer? Better erase your history from your browser before your mom gets home. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip DC is way more racist than Vermont has ever been. Which was exactly my point about your use of terms that cause trouble here that you seem to know nothing about. DC Talk - Colored People http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_iwEhSG-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_iwEhSG-8 OffWorld You really aren't much of a language nuance guy are you? But hey girls, I didn't watch the thing dumbass. I could't stomach it after 5 seconds. You are the only one that did watch it ! Lol, you're gay aren't you? No really, you are, admit it. There is nothing wrong with it, just be honest with yourself now. Curtis, you are so out of touch if you think a colored person likes being called 'black'. You will find that term gets changed to people of color or colored people. Black is derogatory. Many people are half white and black, or half hispanic or asian and black or asian-white etc . It is derogatory to Tiger Wood's mother to call him black. He is colored. There are no black people, and there are no white people. I'm an artist, and if I have to use white in a portrait is is because the person is dead. If I have to use pure black, it is because it is a pitch black night and I only want to show a silhouette. Black and white are terms people are not comfortable with, but you are behind the times. You are totally out of touch if you think that if you have a conversation with a black friend of yours about all these terms as I described it above and see what they say about it. But wait, you don't have any black friends. You are afraid of colored people. No really Curtis. If you have a black friend go have a good conversation with him/her. Ask them what terms they prefer, then ask a mixed race person, half asian, half african. What about a an african asian white mix, who has some vague features of african left over? You are offensive to that person to call them black. If you don't have any black friends then you will not get back to us about this will you. You are so old school. The racial divide is coming to an end Curtis, but you want it to continue. It is offensive to call mixed race people black or white, or minority. You know I am right, but your ego is a big fat blubber of toxic waste and you can't get around its grotesque form. I am not white either by the way. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Hears a Giant Sucking Sound
Peter, must you reveal our deepest darkest secrets on this public board? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Betty, you make me blush when you say giant sucking sound Oh my! --- On Thu, 11/20/08, bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bettyblue109 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Hears a Giant Sucking Sound To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 8:11 PM EVERYBODY EVERYONE is hearing a giant sucking sound! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: L.Shaddai wrote: Should The Government Stop Dumping Money Into A Giant Hole? That Mr. Obama had been sent by history to assuage the insecurities of the middle class with a 'New' New Deal was always a tad detached from reality anyway. The reason is those giant legacies of existing New Dealism known as Social Security and Medicare, about which he was careful to say nothing intelligible during the campaign. These programs worked for a while too, but now their expected revenues are (in present value) about $99.2 trillion short of the expected outlays required to assure present and future workers their promised comfort in retirement. Read more: 'Obama Hears a Giant Sucking Sound' http://tinyurl.com/5nd2jd Mr. Obama must be looking around and beginning to suspect he will be pouring his political capital, along with considerable taxpayer capital, down bottomless holes for the next four years. He won't be building a legacy as the new FDR, but cleaning up after the last one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Agnes Schwarzenegger
raunchydog wrote: Those photos of the naked Arnold with the naked woman on his shoulders were widely available on the Internet before Arnold was elected. Imagine if a woman running for office had posed nude; do you think she would have been elected to anything? We would have heard howls about morals and what will we tell the children? You might want to check your history on that. I know that women who were ex-strippers and even porn stars have run for office and I believe some even won. The only reason that would have raised an eyebrow would have been with family values conservatives and maybe some liberals would have made an issue of it just to rub it into the family values types especially if the candidate were conservative.
[FairfieldLife] About those auto companies
A friend just returned from Detroit where he was taking care of family business. He said that Congress should bail out the auto companies because of the jobs at stake. So I said you're gonna trade in your BMW for a Chevy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter reduced to pitching scams for political wacko Mormon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How the mighty do fall: Ann Coulter pitching right-wing stock-tip scams By David Neiwert Crooks Liars, Nov 20, 2008 http://crooksandliars.com/node/24190 -snip- So this is what Ann Coulter is reduced to these days: Shilling for Patriot-style right-wing moneymaking scams. But then, I guess it isn't surprising that Coulter is heading down this same path. During the past campaign, she actually came out in support of Ron Paul. Well, fools and their money are soon parted. And anyone foolish enough to take their investment advice from Ann Coulter will get everything they deserve. But I'm wondering when we'll see Coulter turn up in late-night infomercials for gold Liberty Dollars with her own image stamped on them. Because that's the road -- the one leading to ignominious obscurity and irrelevance -- she's headed down. And I can't think of a more deserved fate. she really made it easy for the rest of us by just letting her self- destructive personality run its course. i am surprised faux news didn't pick her up as a 'guest commentator' a la karl rove. perhaps she is even too toxic for them. anyway, enjoying the new era of ann who?.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New, New Deal?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fannie Mae was a New Deal creation, subsidizing the securitization of mortgage debt. FDR's successors piled on the subsidies for housing debt and incentives directed at low-income borrowers. Kaboom. Let's see -- when I was 3 I ate too much chocolate one day, I guess that stomach ache should be coming along in just a few more decades. Reality: The US has the highest rate of home ownership in the world and that has been a key element in the rise of the middle and upper middle classes in the US, which has been a key to the US economic growth since the great depression. That all unraveled when the regulatory structure of the banking/mortgage industry was gutted starting in the late 90s and brought to completion during Bush. The regulatory changes of the past 8 yrs are more relevant to the mortgage bust than the regulatory changes of 70 yrs ago, esp since the regulatory system of 70 yrs ago worked just fine. Then there's the UAW, born in 1935. For decades the UAW steadily traded away domestic auto market-share to imports and transplants to keep its aging membership toiling away toward their golden pensions and collecting wages and benefits twice those of their competitors. It worked for a while . . . The UAW runs GM? Union workers get golden pensions?? Sorry, the UAW has consistently given concessions for the past 25 yrs. At the end of next yr, there will no difference between the cost structure of GM and Toyota in the US for factory workers. The UAW has little power and it may disappear, but the success of the big three has much more to do with getting some competent management and making cars people want, not the employee cost structure. Mr. Obama must be looking around and beginning to suspect he will be pouring his political capital, along with considerable taxpayer capital, down bottomless holes for the next four years. He won't be building a legacy as the new FDR, but cleaning up after the last one. This is rich. The Republicans succeed in completely dismantling the New Deal regulatory structure governing the financial system. Then the economic system collapses. And who do Republicans blame? The system created 70 yrs ago that they just destroyed Yes, cleaning up after your man Bush will be Obama's main job for at least the first 2 yrs if not longer. PS Willy - as you been lecturing us for the past 8 yrs, it's unpatriotic to criticize the president so SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Checking the price of oil
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Fri, 11/21/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 10:51 AM http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLZ08.NYM I use the above link 2 or 3 times a day because I need SOMETHING to cheer about. It's a Yahoo! link to the price of oil. Last time I checked (10 minutes ago) it was at about $48.00 which is pretty incredible considering that it was $147.00 not too long ago! I just filled up my car for $29.00 last night. It wasn't too long ago that it cost over $60 to fill my tank. Filling up the gas tank is quite the micro-economic experience. I filled up the other day for $23.00 (Toyota Corolla) when, at its peak, it was costing me around $46.00. I refer to this as a micro-economic experience because that $23.00 difference meant, acccording to my economic habits, that I would go to one additional restaurant that week. Mulitiply that experience by about 200 million Americans -- or whatever the number that owns cars - - and we can see how the price of gas REALLY affects the economy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp has no Colored friends
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Vermont has .5% black and 96.8% white. Not in my county. There are many colored people (I consider the term 'black' to be a racist term) [snip] Here's a novel concept for you, Offal: it's not what YOU want to call African-Americans, it's what THEY want to be called. That's why no one here believes you when you tell us that: 1) you have African-American friends; and 2) that you told them Obama is moving to The Black House and that they don't mind you referring to them as colored. You obviously have no colored friends Shemp. You're right, I don't. I do, however, know several African-Americans. I have several, and more than half of them take offence at being called black or African American. How many African-Vermonters do you know? Or, should I say, how many colored-Green-Mountainers do you know? I'm really curious to know the evolution of these race discussions you have with the colored...how does it start? Are you both sitting down to a meal of maple syrup and snow and somehow the conversation gets around to what labels they prefer? Who broaches the subject? It is derogatory to Tiger Woods mother to call Tiger black, and I have heard many people say that they hate being called black or African American because they are not, even though they may have some African in them down the line. They are neither African, nor black, and many are mixed race and you will see a backlash in society about the terms you think black people like. They do not like these terms. They don't like it Shemp, you are brain-washed by the mainstream media. They are mixed race. If you have black friends go ask them about all this and get back to us. That will be a long wait won't it. Look, it may be me but I wouldn't feel comfortable broaching the subject. You, obviously, are a brother and can walk through any street in Harlem at all hours. I can't...and it's not because I'm a racist; I simply can't. The only terms under which I'd have a conversation with a Black person about this subject would ONLY be: what do YOU prefer to be called or referred to when asked your race? That's it. I am mixed race too by the way. Yes, I understand you are of the exotic and elusive Scottish-English mix. Never seen one of them before. Do you prefer to be labelled White-White or Saxon-Gaelic? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Agnes Schwarzenegger
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: raunchydog wrote: Those photos of the naked Arnold with the naked woman on his shoulders were widely available on the Internet before Arnold was elected. Imagine if a woman running for office had posed nude; do you think she would have been elected to anything? We would have heard howls about morals and what will we tell the children? You might want to check your history on that. I know that women who were ex-strippers and even porn stars have run for office and I believe some even won. At least in Italy. Cicciolina (nee Ilona Staller) won a seat in the Italian Parliament pretty much on the strength of her porn star status. And I'm not talking soft-core Emanuelle-style stuff; she was hard-core, yet got elected in the land of the Pope and Catholicism. A bit of a sad story though (isn't that almost always the case with porn stars?). She married American artist Jeff Koons, had a child, and absconded with said child to Italy, barring Koons from access. Despite hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees spent trying to see his son, Staller has kept the son away from him; Koons hasn't seen the boy in, like, 15 years. Of course, that didn't stop Staller from suing Koons for child support. Can you say chutzpah? The only reason that would have raised an eyebrow would have been with family values conservatives and maybe some liberals would have made an issue of it just to rub it into the family values types especially if the candidate were conservative.
[FairfieldLife] Re: About those auto companies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend just returned from Detroit where he was taking care of family business. He said that Congress should bail out the auto companies because of the jobs at stake. So I said you're gonna trade in your BMW for a Chevy? Ha! Good one! That's almost as good as the Detroit Execs going to D.C. to plead for a bailout in their private jets. Or Al Gore flying in private jets.
[FairfieldLife] Offal_World, he of the White-White tribe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Vermont has .5% black and 96.8% white. Not in my county. There are many colored people (I consider the term 'black' to be a racist term) [snip] Here's a novel concept for you, Offal: it's not what YOU want to call African-Americans, it's what THEY want to be called. That's why no one here believes you when you tell us that: 1) you have African-American friends; and 2) that you told them Obama is moving to The Black House and that they don't mind you referring to them as colored. You obviously have no colored friends Shemp. You're right, I don't. I do, however, know several African-Americans. I have several, and more than half of them take offence at being called black or African American. How many African-Vermonters do you know? Or, should I say, how many colored-Green-Mountainers do you know? I'm really curious to know the evolution of these race discussions you have with the colored...how does it start? Are you both sitting down to a meal of maple syrup and snow and somehow the conversation gets around to what labels they prefer? Who broaches the subject? It is derogatory to Tiger Woods mother to call Tiger black, and I have heard many people say that they hate being called black or African American because they are not, even though they may have some African in them down the line. They are neither African, nor black, and many are mixed race and you will see a backlash in society about the terms you think black people like. They do not like these terms. They don't like it Shemp, you are brain-washed by the mainstream media. They are mixed race. If you have black friends go ask them about all this and get back to us. That will be a long wait won't it. Look, it may be me but I wouldn't feel comfortable broaching the subject. You, obviously, are a brother and can walk through any street in Harlem at all hours. I can't...and it's not because I'm a racist; I simply can't. The only terms under which I'd have a conversation with a Black person about this subject would ONLY be: what do YOU prefer to be called or referred to when asked your race? That's it. I am mixed race too by the way. Yes, I understand you are of the exotic and elusive Scottish- English mix. Never seen one of them before. Do you prefer to be labelled White-White or Saxon-Gaelic? Oh, and one more thing: you can't marry my sister. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz
How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How about you? Take the quiz: http://americancivicliteracy.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How about you? Take the quiz: http://americancivicliteracy.org/ Great quiz, I encourage everyone to take it. I thought I got 100% right, but I didn't. What's great is they tell you which ones you got wrong (see below) My results copied and pasted: You answered 29 out of 33 correctly 87.88 % SPOILER ALERT! Answers to my missed questions are pasted below...may prejudice your test if you take it. Answers to Your Missed Questions: Question #8 - C. appoint additional Supreme Court justices who shared his views Question #27 - A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends Question #29 - B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person
Re: [FairfieldLife] Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:31 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How about you? 93.84% Missed the Gettysburg Address and Puritans believed in the sinfulness of man (I chose believed in religious freedom).
[FairfieldLife] U.S. Intelligence Community Foresees Era of U.S. Decline
Almost Jules Verne: U.S. study envisions the future Jonathan S. Landay McClatchy Newspapers, November 21, 2008 http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/56237.html WASHINGTON The risks of a nuclear weapon being used and wars being fought over dwindling resources will grow during the next 20 years as diminishing U.S. power, a shift of wealth from West to East, the rise of India and China and climate change reshape the world, a new U.S. intelligence study warned Thursday. The international system as constructed following the Second World War will be almost unrecognizable by 2025 owing to the rise of emerging powers, a globalizing economy, an historic transfer of relative wealth and economic power from West to East, and the growing influence of non-state actors, the report said. The U.S. will remain the single most important actor but will be less dominant, in part due to its military power and also because many nations will continue looking to U.S. leadership on issues such as climate change and non-proliferation, the report said. The current economic upheaval could hasten those trends, but it's unlikely to trigger a complete breakdown in the international financial and political order, said the report, entitled Global Trends 2025: A World Transformed. However, the next 20 years of transition toward a new international system are fraught with risks, said the study. The rapidly changing international order at a time of growing geopolitical challenges increases the likelihood of discontinuities, shocks and surprises. No single outcome seems pre-ordained. History tells us that rapid change brings many dangers, it said. Among its optimistic notes, the report projected life-improving technological breakthroughs in energy and other areas, and the likely diminished appeal of Islamic extremism, with al Qaida becoming an aging group that could decay into marginality. Terrorism, however, likely will remain a threat, the report said. The report, the fourth in a series that examines the forces that are driving international developments, was written by the U.S. National Intelligence Council, which is composed of the top U.S. intelligence analysts, with input from experts around the world. The studies, which are timed to coincide with the advent of new administrations, aim to stimulate strategic thinking by incoming officials about how the places, the personalities, the developments in their areas of responsibility affect the wider world, NIC Chairman Thomas Fingar told a news briefing. It is not a prediction. We don't claim a crystal ball. We are not forecasting the future, Fingar said. If one looks the problem(s) squarely in the eye, recognizes them, recognizes their causes, think about how they interact . . . it is not beyond the minds of human beings or political systems . . . to address and alleviate, if not solve, these problems over this timespan. We could have a better world, quite frankly. Nevertheless, the new study offers a grimmer assessment of the threat of major global shocks, such as terrorists obtaining and using a nuclear weapon, than did the last such report, published in December 2004, which considered how the world might look in 2020. However, the 2008 study also pictures a fossil fuel-dominated world in transition to cleaner energy sources, although it questions how long that shift would take. Both reports consider globalization such a pervasive influence on global developments that it will reorder current divisions based on geography, ethnicity and religious and socio-economic status. An unprecedented eastward shift in economic power and wealth is already under way, driven by a growing dependency on the petroleum reserves of the Middle East and Russia and cheap labor and manufacturing in China and other Asian nations, the report said. Demands for energy, food, clean water and other resources will rise, driven by population growth that's forecast to add 1.2 billion people to the planet by 2025, and the loss of arable land, especially in sub-Saharan Africa, to climate change and urbanization. The competition for dwindling resources will raise the risk of conflicts, with perceptions of energy scarcity driving countries to take actions to assure their future access to energy supplies, the report said. It warned that while the risk that a nuclear weapon will be used over the next 20 years remains very low, the possibility of such an occurrence is likely to be greater than it is today. Access to nuclear technology will rise as more countries turn to nuclear power, nuclear-armed India and Pakistan remain at odds and the possibility of regime collapse in nuclear-armed North Korea grows, it said. Moreover, concerns that Iran is bent on acquiring nuclear weapons could trigger a nuclear arms race in the Middle East, fueling a regional competition for influence that raises the risk of conflict, it said. The study considers four possible scenarios that could take place over the next
[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:31 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How about you? 93.84% Missed the Gettysburg Address and Puritans believed in the sinfulness of man (I chose believed in religious freedom). Great quiz! Limping above average, I got: You answered 28 out of 33 correctly 84.85 % My most embarrassing failure was: What was the source of the following phrase: Government of the people, for the people, by the people? I thought it was from the Simpson's episode where the family goes to a historical theme park and hilarity ensued.
[FairfieldLife] Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...
http://tinyurl.com/3uj5p Won't be official until after Thanksgiving, but seems fairly certain. Also Bill Richardson for Transportation (I think). Sal
[FairfieldLife] Questions for David Lynch: The Visionary
The New York Times Magazine Interview by DEBORAH SOLOMON Published: November 21, 2008 Full interview: http://tinyurl.com/5eymf2 Excerpts: Q: I hear you're starting an online series on transcendental meditation, based on your book Catching the Big Fish. Is the small screen a good format for discussing meditation? A: Any format is a good format for meditation. Every single person has within an ocean of pure vibrant consciousness. Every single human being can experience that infinite intelligence, infinite creativity, infinite happiness, infinite energy, infinite dynamic peace. Q: Tell us about your foundation. A: The David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace we raise money to give meditation to any student or school. There is a huge waiting list. Q: As a devotee of cultivated bliss, how do you explain the proclivity for twisted eroticism and dismembered body parts in your films? A: A filmmaker doesn't have to suffer to show suffering. You just have to understand it. You don't have to die to shoot a death scene. Full interview: http://tinyurl.com/5eymf2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...
I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi. It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person who will challenge him since he disagreed with her foreign policy POV in the primaries. He is already doing the opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women) so he must be on track. Here is how I view our new president: http://images.plurk.com/36733_e7f482ba81beda85c3717278242ee9a1.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3uj5p Won't be official until after Thanksgiving, but seems fairly certain. Also Bill Richardson for Transportation (I think). Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...
On Nov 21, 2008, at 3:13 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi. It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person who will challenge him since he disagreed with her foreign policy POV in the primaries. He is already doing the opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women) so he must be on track. I agree. It will also free up her Senate seat for a real Democrat, :) Here is how I view our new president: http://images.plurk.com/36733_e7f482ba81beda85c3717278242ee9a1.jpg Ha! Good one. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi. It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person who will challenge him since he disagreed with her foreign policy POV in the primaries. He is already doing the opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women) so he must be on track. Connie was more than a yes woman to GW Bush. She was his tutor. She taught him were Spain and Greece were on a map of the world. It's good to see that Obama found some where to stuff Hillary, I guess. The good news is that if she blows out she's lost here Senate seat and can't easily go back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How about you? Take the quiz: http://americancivicliteracy.org/ Great quiz, I encourage everyone to take it. I thought I got 100% right, but I didn't. What's great is they tell you which ones you got wrong (see below) My results copied and pasted: You answered 29 out of 33 correctly 87.88 % Same here Shemp: You answered 29 out of 33 correctly 87.88 % Average score for this quiz during November: 77.3% Average score: 77.3% You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average. If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can consult the following table http://americancivicliteracy.org/2008/additional_finding.html to see how citizens and elected officials scored on each question. Where to from here? http://americancivicliteracy.org/resources/whereto.html Spoiler - don't look until after :) Answers to Your Missed Questions: Question #4 - B. Would slavery be allowed to expand to new territories? Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address Question #30 - C. decreasing taxes and increasing spending Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:02 PM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Average score for this quiz during November: 77.3% Average score: 77.3% You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average. If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can consult the following table to see how citizens and elected officials scored on each question. Where to from here? Spoiler - don't look until after :) I take heart in having flubbed two questions which most others also flubbed. I wish the test had asked why the Pilgrams stopped at Plymouth Rock instead. I know the answer to that one. They ran out of beer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:13 PM, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think she will be great, so much stronger than Condi. It also speaks well of Obama that he picked a person who will challenge him since he disagreed with her foreign policy POV in the primaries. He is already doing the opposite of what Bush did (pick a yes women) so he must be on track. Connie was more than a yes woman to GW Bush. She was his tutor. She taught him were Spain and Greece were on a map of the world. It's good to see that Obama found some where to stuff Hillary, I guess. The good news is that if she blows out she's lost here Senate seat and can't easily go back. *** I like Hillary, but State is the wrong job for her. Richardson should have gotten State, and Hillary should continue in the Senate, safely locking up a Dem seat forever.
[FairfieldLife] Democracy at work......
Sex workers fill-up forms during a voter's enrollment camp in Sonagachi, the largest red light district of the eastern Indian city of Kolkata, November 21, 2008. The election department officials on Friday arranged for a special camp in Sonagachi area to enroll sex workers in the electoral roll before the general elections next year. http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Barack-Obama-President-elect-Manny/photo//081121/480/c142348c9d0b4fbab8d40a3a69e9dd05//s:/ap/20081121/ap_on_el_pr/obama_1;_ylt=AlnQQvJD_AUkxAwTeo6nSwlh24cA#photoViewer=/081121/ids_photos_wl/r3018209331.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Take the The Civic Literacy Quiz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal L.Shaddai@ wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:31 PM, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: How well do you know your [U.S.] civics? I scored 81.82%. How about you? 93.84% Missed the Gettysburg Address and Puritans believed in the sinfulness of man (I chose believed in religious freedom). Great quiz! Limping above average, I got: You answered 28 out of 33 correctly 84.85 % My most embarrassing failure was: What was the source of the following phrase: Government of the people, for the people, by the people? I thought it was from the Simpson's episode where the family goes to a historical theme park and hilarity ensued. Don't feel too bad. Television influencing your constitutional history is par for the course for Canadians. For years, Canadians thought that the right to one phone call was part of the Canadian constitution; it wasn't, of course, they were just watching too much Canadian TV. But I think they put it in the constitution or the law eventually just because so many thought it was their right.
[FairfieldLife] Adolf Hitler and the Real Estate Crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM
[FairfieldLife] OffWorld-imposed political correctness prevents Obama...
...from enjoying his pie-eating experience. President-elect Barack Obama loves blueberry pie but can't stand blackberry pie. But ever since the Tom Barlow-imposed Guide to political correctness for African-Americans was adopted by the people of the United States, the President-elect can't distinguish between the two kinds of pie. Why? Because OffWorld-correctness requires that all pies now be labelled as colored pies without any differentiation suggesting separate colors; applying words such as blue or black as qualifiers demean and insult all peoples of color and, of course, strongly suggests that the pie-eater has no friends in the African-American community, is offending them, and are brainwashed by the Mainstream Media. Poor Mr. Obama can no longer find the pie he loves and, as shown in the photograph below, is befuddled in his daily trip to the pie counter. In frustration, he reached for his Colored-Berry personal communication device and called wife Michelle to ask her to suggest an alternative. Mrs. Obama proposed that he instead opt for a bag of M and Ms but to first pick out the colored ones because he is allergic to colored dye no. 2. [President-elect Barack Obama orders a slice of pie during a ...] http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/brand/photos//SIG=10qgqrhua/*http:/\ /www.apimages.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Adolf Hitler and the Real Estate Crash
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:18 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM We no longer have personal responsibility for our actions in our country, least not when it comes to buying something we can't afford. This video is politically incorrect. Those who chose to live beyond their means were the victims. Least that's the way Congress and the media portray it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil
shempmcgurk wrote: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLZ08.NYM I use the above link 2 or 3 times a day because I need SOMETHING to cheer about. It's a Yahoo! link to the price of oil. Last time I checked (10 minutes ago) it was at about $48.00 which is pretty incredible considering that it was $147.00 not too long ago! Rumor is it'll stay at $50 a barrel for 6 months or a year. The elite want to bankrupt the Middle East. So will food prices and prices on other things come down as a result? Probably not. After all people like Shemp believe greed is a virtue.
[FairfieldLife] And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
How about a 67-inch DLP set for just $1300? I guess my neck would get quite a workout if I replaced my 53 set with one of those. http://techblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/11/samsung-to-slash-prices-on-dlp.html BTW, I picked up Southland Tales on BD today on sale. Unlike the DVD the BD has a commentary by the director Richard Kelly (who also directed Donnie Darko).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Checking the price of oil
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLZ08.NYM I use the above link 2 or 3 times a day because I need SOMETHING to cheer about. It's a Yahoo! link to the price of oil. Last time I checked (10 minutes ago) it was at about $48.00 which is pretty incredible considering that it was $147.00 not too long ago! Rumor is it'll stay at $50 a barrel for 6 months or a year. The elite want to bankrupt the Middle East. More likely that it will bankrupt the Albertans. Mining and processing the tar sands costs at least $40 a barrel. Extracting sweet crude in Saudi Arabia costs about a dollar a barrel. At $50 a barrel, the House of Saud is still laughing all the way to the bank. Happily, it may bankrupt Chavez and Venezuela because of the variouis sweet deals he has made with several countries of South America in which they get really discounted prices on Venezuelan crude. So will food prices and prices on other things come down as a result? Probably not. After all people like Shemp believe greed is a virtue. As a member in good standing in the Elite American Cabal that secretly runs the United States of America, I am putting you on warning, Bhairitu: if you don't respect me I am going to have the secret police come in on their black helicoptors and earmark you for a bombardment of coupons and flyers from Wal-Mart to be rained down upon your home.
RE: [FairfieldLife] And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
What does DLP stand for?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Post Count
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FFL PostCount Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: FairfieldLife Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Nov 15 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Nov 22 00:00:00 2008 784 messages as of (UTC) Fri Nov 21 23:54:35 2008 54 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:shempmcgurk%40netscape.net 52 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com 51 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jstein%40panix.com Shemp and Off World are out for a week. Judy was counting her posts meticulously right up to the limit, and the 51 may have been a Yahoo glitch.
[FairfieldLife] Digby on Hillary for Secretary of State
The Clintons simply drive some people crazy. It's a clinical diagnosis. I actually think Obama may be picking her for this purpose. She can absorb all the looney criticism from the right and the Village and he can go about his business above the fray. It's actually smart to give them someone else to hate. And if the Clintons are good at anything, it's being hated and successful at the same time. Indeed, they seem to thrive on it. http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/redirecting-hate-by-digby-i-was-going.html http://tinyurl.com/553htg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary accepts job as Secretary of State...
I am the eternal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Connie was more than a yes woman to GW Bush. She was his tutor. She taught him were Spain and Greece were on a map of the world. Connie Rice's creddentials were all based on being an expect on the Soviet Union. Lo and behold, none of that mattered. I hope history views her as one of the most incompetant SOS ever. She likely never took a stand on anything substantial, and was, yes, just a yes man. BTW, remember one of the Star Trek moview where the Captain was a female, and they still addressed her as Sir. I kind of liked that, and thought it was appropiate. The role of a Starship Captain, would, to me, require more masculine qualities, whether it is filled by a man, or a women. Thus, I felt addressing the women as Sir, in the regard was appropiate.
Re: [FairfieldLife] And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
Rick Archer wrote: What does DLP stand for? Digital Light Processing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP DLP sets aren't as popular anymore as the LCD sets seem to be taking over. They are rear projection and may have more artifacts than LCDs. The bulb can be expensive to replace. So there are blowout sales on DLP sets at stores. DLP is being used for digital projectors including the ones at my local theater.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count
On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:15 PM, FFL PostCount wrote: 54 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 52 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 51 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tsk, tsk...Sayonara, guys. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Digby on Hillary for Secretary of State
On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, do.rflex wrote: The Clintons simply drive some people crazy. It's a clinical diagnosis. I actually think Obama may be picking her for this purpose. She can absorb all the looney criticism from the right and the Village and he can go about his business above the fray. It's actually smart to give them someone else to hate. And if the Clintons are good at anything, it's being hated and successful at the same time. Indeed, they seem to thrive on it. LOL...Yep! Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FFL PostCount Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:15 PM To: FairfieldLife Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Nov 15 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Nov 22 00:00:00 2008 784 messages as of (UTC) Fri Nov 21 23:54:35 2008 54 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:shempmcgurk%40netscape.net 52 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com 51 authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:jstein%40panix.com Shemp and Off World are out for a week. Judy was counting her posts meticulously right up to the limit, and the 51 may have been a Yahoo glitch. Just to clarify, I keep a close eye on the Post Count, but I start counting my posts meticulously only once the Post Count says I'm close to the limit. What I told Rick in email was that Tuesday's Post Count had me at 48--my last immediately previous post having been made a little after noon on Tuesday--and that I had made only two posts after that, figuring that would put me right at 50.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Checking the price of oil
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLZ08.NYM I use the above link 2 or 3 times a day because I need SOMETHING to cheer about. It's a Yahoo! link to the price of oil. Last time I checked (10 minutes ago) it was at about $48.00 which is pretty incredible considering that it was $147.00 not too long ago! Rumor is it'll stay at $50 a barrel for 6 months or a year. The elite want to bankrupt the Middle East. i think it would have to get in the range of $30 a barrel to make any of the middle east oil producers start to sweat. at $50 a barrel, still plenty of profit for them, and they are market driven when things get tight. so we might see low prices for awhile, until some of the fat drains off-lol. So will food prices and prices on other things come down as a result? Probably not. After all people like Shemp believe greed is a virtue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
Barry is so sunk in fantasy, so convinced that he won't be held accountable for what he says, that he feels perfectly free to lie about what's in an article in the *New York Times*: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An article in HuffPost today (originally from the New York Times) says that all of the talk about Hillary being offered the position of SoS in the first place was leaked to the press by the *Clinton* people, not from the Obama camp. The latter are quite distraught about the leaks. http://tinyurl.com/5cd3c6 No, the Times DOES NOT SAY THAT. Not even the Hillary-hating HuffPo says that. Only BARRY says that. This is ALL the Times says about leaks: In their public signals, the Clintons are trying to take the former president's activities off the table as an issue, in their view eliminating any excuses for Mr. Obama not to give Mrs. Clinton the job. Some in the Obama camp are bristling at what they see as strategic leaks by the Clintons aimed at boxing in the president-elect and forcing him to offer the post. First, this is in a paragraph about the vetting of Bill Clinton's activities, not about Hillary being offered SoS in the first place. Nowhere in the Times article does it suggest the Clinton camp leaked the original story. Barry disgraces himself once again by making things up out of whole cloth. There's no question where the original leaks came from about her being under consideration for (not being offered) SoS: from the Obama camp. It's a matter of record. The story was broken by NBC's Andrea Mitchell, who insists she was told by two Obama advisers. Mitchell is most decidedly not a Clinton fan, so she has no reason to lie about her sources to protect Hillary. Second, what the Times article is referring to here is leaks about Bill Clinton accepting the various conditions on his activities the Obama people are requiring. The suspicions in question are that the leaks about his willingness to cooperate are *strategic* leaks, not that there *have been* leaks--again, these leaks are a matter of record and are what the Times article reports. HuffPo's description of the Times article gets it wrong on this point, characterizing the leaks themselves as suspected. No, the leaks about Bill Clinton are established fact. What is suspected is that these leaks have been made as a matter of strategy. It's no surprise that HuffPo would do its level best to slant its own story against Hillary by misrepresenting the Times article. But even HuffPo doesn't try to suggest, as Barry dishonestly declares, that the original leaks came from the Clintons. Since Mitchell broke the original story, the press has gone nuts trying to find out more but was unable to do so until quite recently, because both Hillary's people and Obama's people were keeping their mouths shut after the initial leak from Obama's team. The press *still* can't confirm that she's actually been offered the position; nobody is yet willing to say that for the record. The article is quite clear in who is to blame for any delays, and for all of the leaks. Absolutely, unequivocally UNTRUE. Knowingly untrue, as anybody who reads the Times article will find. Not even the HuffPo article *about* the Times article says that. The HuffPo article has now been updated with leaks *from two senior Obama aides* saying he will offer her the post, and that she's expected to accept. And the Times is now saying it's a done deal, but they still don't have confirmation from anybody on the record. Obama is said to be preparing to make the announcement right after Thanksgiving. The Obama camp defines the problem, if there is one, as the result of strategic leaks by the Clintons aimed at boxing in the president-elect and forcing him to offer the post [to Clinton]. Actually the Times article says some in the Obama camp. And again, it's referring to the leaks about Bill Clinton, not the original leak about Hillary being considered for the position. In fact, the leaks about the negotiations from the top people in the Obama camp have been that they're going well. What you've got, obviously, is a bunch of lower- level people trying to scotch the nomination. And the press, of course, is inventing all kinds of drama that doesn't actually exist, because that's what sells papers. snip It would appear that he had nothing to do with letting the offer get out. She, or her people, were responsible for all the leaks. Au contraire. As noted, it was Obama's people who originally leaked that she was under consideration. Matter of record. snip Much less that, by allowing her people to leak things that shouldn't have ever been leaked to the press in the first place, she has basically disqualified her- self for the position. If she can't control her staff now, does anyone believe she'll be able to as Secretary of State? In fact, leakage about possible cabinet appointments by an incoming
Re: [FairfieldLife] Adolf Hitler and the Real Estate Crash
2008-11-21
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Hilarious find! Thanks for some levity on a busy day. *Human society is at a vital new juncture, * *the decrepit skeleton of things tried and * *proven false is rapidly being rent asunder. * *Today we are on the precipice of a glorious* *new dawn in human evolution. Embrace this* *crimson dawn of the glorious new day.* On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:18 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some talking head (I forget which) recently pointed out that the time Hillary is taking to accept or turn down the offer for secretary of state is a bit passive aggressive. I think you mean some talking head recently *suggested*. You can only point out a fact. This is just a supposition. I don't know if that is true or not since we don't have the details of the supposed offer or have full disclosure on how complicated Bill's foreign country business deals would make this. Maybe it's a slight, maybe not. Maybe it's a matter of genuine conflict on Hillary's part. There's no question that it's a tough decision; there are very major pros and cons for her. But it does show very good faith on Obama's side towards Hillary that he is letting this impression of a diss linger. What, the impression of some talking head?? I haven't heard this particular impression anywhere else. I suspect it's unique to this specific talking head. But there are plenty of 'em out there still who are unable to see anything Hillary does or says in a positive light. If she'd jumped on it right away, they'd be criticizing her for that. He gave her great respect and consideration to let this offer get out and let her take her own sweet time in answering. He obviously badly wants to have her as SoS, or he wouldn't have leaked it in the first place. I wonder if the Hillaryphiles here are going to acknowledge that she is getting very preferential treatment here. If so, it's preferential treatment toward the candidate he'd prefer to have. There's no hurry about the appointment; Obama's ahead of the game with regard to his cabinet choices. If it was me, (and thank all the gods it is not!) I would say, here is the offer, take the weekend to decide, on Monday you either sign up or I move one to my next choice. Thank the gods indeed that it's not you. Thank the gods Obama has the good judgment to realize how crucial it is that she think the prospect through and make sure it's what she wants to do. He doesn't want her either to accept too hastily and then regret accepting the job later; or to turn it down because he hasn't given her time to consider all the ins and outs. Neither Obama nor Hillary, nor Bill, give a flying freak about all the drama that the press and their supporters are trying to gin up. They want to do this the right way, whether she ends up with the gig or not. Obama isn't worried about whether some talking head thinks he's been dissed, or even whether some of his low-level people think that. It would be pretty small of him to insist she take it or leave it immediately just so he wouldn't appear to be letting her diss him, if he really thinks having her as SoS would be best for the country. But if that isn't what he thinks, then it would seem as though he's jerking *her* around. Why don't we just wait and see what happens instead of busily imputing ill motives we have no idea are real? The latest word is he'll make the announcement right after Thanksgiving.
[FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer wrote: What does DLP stand for? Digital Light Processing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP DLP sets aren't as popular anymore as the LCD sets seem to be taking over. They are rear projection and may have more artifacts than LCDs. The bulb can be expensive to replace. So there are blowout sales on DLP sets at stores. DLP is being used for digital projectors including the ones at my local theater. DLP's niche is humongous screen size. For the price of a 52 LCD flat screen, you can get a 73 rear projection DLP. Sony's new 70 LCD flat screen, by comparison, will set you back almost twenty grand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploding Heads
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: I stopped reading Taylor Marsh after the primary when she jumped Hillary's ship and banned me for posting criticisms of Obama. Hard to believe anybody would *ever* want you off their board Raunch. Downright shocking I tell ya. Actually, being banned for posting criticisms of Obama was standard on the Obama-supporting blogs, in many cases even before he clinched the nomination. I've never seen anything like it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Adolf Hitler and the Real Estate Crash
true that people didn't look closely into the loans they were getting, also that the banks were loaning money on the largest purchase a single consumer ever makes, huge amounts of money, ($250,000 ave. per home buyer), on the basis of very loose underwriting rules, and then bundling those threadbare loans as investment vehicles, magnifying the value of all of those empty loans whose principal would never be repaid. fake money really. and all of the fake money is now evaporating, globally, and will continue to, until a level of sustainable consumer spending is reached. that is why no one is buying anything, because the value of the fake money is evaporating faster than it can be spent, and to make matters worse, the banks are hoarding the fresh government backed [i.e. more real] money they are receiving, and not lending it back out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:18 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM We no longer have personal responsibility for our actions in our country, least not when it comes to buying something we can't afford. This video is politically incorrect. Those who chose to live beyond their means were the victims. Least that's the way Congress and the media portray it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry is so sunk in fantasy, so convinced that he won't be held accountable for what he says, that he feels perfectly free to lie about what's in an article in the *New York Times*: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An article in HuffPost today (originally from the New York Times) says that all of the talk about Hillary being offered the position of SoS in the first place was leaked to the press by the *Clinton* people, not from the Obama camp. The latter are quite distraught about the leaks. http://tinyurl.com/5cd3c6 -snip- i saw the same thing on cnn and msnbc - the supposed source of the SoS leak was a common story on the news, nothing confined to just the huffington post. just one of those things that comes and goes. who cares if its true or not? i personally think hc would make one hell of a good sec o' state.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Carbon footprint of assholes in Jets---- was// Kaplan was flying his 10 mill
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: I'm not trying to defend his jet but rather what probably went through his head but then I don't know the guy. The usual true believer viewpoint would certainly be that Kaplan was providing valuable jobs to the sidha community and donating millions to the movement, so let him have the expensive convenience of a private jet. Have you never heard of pollution and the poisoning of the atmosphere and the extinction of species as a result? Like I said, FFL is full of very ignorant people. OffWorld ++ I would wonder how the corporate and private jets would possibly be an issue in view of the volume of toxic clouds that are put out by the big planes. Google Chemtrails- one would have to be rather unobservant not to see them and ask questions. N.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer wrote: What does DLP stand for? Digital Light Processing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP DLP sets aren't as popular anymore as the LCD sets seem to be taking over. They are rear projection and may have more artifacts than LCDs. The bulb can be expensive to replace. So there are blowout sales on DLP sets at stores. DLP is being used for digital projectors including the ones at my local theater. DLP's niche is humongous screen size. For the price of a 52 LCD flat screen, you can get a 73 rear projection DLP. Sony's new 70 LCD flat screen, by comparison, will set you back almost twenty grand. In fact most of the online retailers don't show anything other than 61+ sets. I know Fry's in store has more than those. Best Buy does show a 56 Samsung DLP for $999. Tempting. The Mitsubishi LaserVue sets are now the hot item but pricey: http://laservuetv.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
73 is too small. Get a front projector and a 92 to 110 diagonal screen. Or go with a high gain screen and you can go even larger, like with a 133 or 159 diagonal Da-lite High power screen. If you can fit it, that is. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 10:46 PM Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer wrote: What does DLP stand for? Digital Light Processing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP DLP sets aren't as popular anymore as the LCD sets seem to be taking over. They are rear projection and may have more artifacts than LCDs. The bulb can be expensive to replace. So there are blowout sales on DLP sets at stores. DLP is being used for digital projectors including the ones at my local theater. DLP's niche is humongous screen size. For the price of a 52 LCD flat screen, you can get a 73 rear projection DLP. Sony's new 70 LCD flat screen, by comparison, will set you back almost twenty grand. In fact most of the online retailers don't show anything other than 61+ sets. I know Fry's in store has more than those. Best Buy does show a 56 Samsung DLP for $999. Tempting. The Mitsubishi LaserVue sets are now the hot item but pricey: http://laservuetv.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Rick Archer wrote: What does DLP stand for? Digital Light Processing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLP DLP sets aren't as popular anymore as the LCD sets seem to be taking over. They are rear projection and may have more artifacts than LCDs. The bulb can be expensive to replace. So there are blowout sales on DLP sets at stores. DLP is being used for digital projectors including the ones at my local theater. DLP's niche is humongous screen size. For the price of a 52 LCD flat screen, you can get a 73 rear projection DLP. Sony's new 70 LCD flat screen, by comparison, will set you back almost twenty grand. NYT's tech guy has a simple guide to TV: http://tinyurl.com/66dqea
[FairfieldLife] Re: And to go with that new Blu-Ray player
The Mitsubishi LaserVue sets are now the hot item but pricey: http://laservuetv.com/ Q: Will LaserVue TV be safe for consumers? A: Absolutely. However, a pop or click noise emanating from the eyeball may be an indication that intensity settings require adjustment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Barry is so sunk in fantasy, so convinced that he won't be held accountable for what he says, that he feels perfectly free to lie about what's in an article in the *New York Times*: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An article in HuffPost today (originally from the New York Times) says that all of the talk about Hillary being offered the position of SoS in the first place was leaked to the press by the *Clinton* people, not from the Obama camp. The latter are quite distraught about the leaks. http://tinyurl.com/5cd3c6 -snip- i saw the same thing on cnn and msnbc - the supposed source of the SoS leak was a common story on the news, Um, no, the story, as I said, was broken by Andrea Mitchell of NBC, who said she had been told Hillary was being considered for SoS by two Obama advisers. This is on the record; there's no disagreement that it was Mitchell's scoop. *After* she reported this, of course everybody else picked it up. Most of those stories credited Mitchell, because she was first to report it. And neither HuffPo nor the Times said anything to suggest that it had been Clinton's people behind the initial leak. As I said, Barry is lying, quite deliberately. nothing confined to just the huffington post. Nobody said it was confined to just the huffington post. Don't know where you got that from.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Exploding Heads
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote: Hard to believe anybody would *ever* want you off their board Raunch. Downright shocking I tell ya. Proud of it. Actually, being banned for posting criticisms of Obama was standard on the Obama-supporting blogs, in many cases even before he clinched the nomination. I've never seen anything like it. I linked from Taylor Marsh one evening and discovered Riverdaughter the night she defected from DKos and started her own website, The Confluence, which invited kossacks in exile to post on her new Hillary friendly site 2/7/08 http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/about-me/ http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/about-me/ http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/about-me/ After John Edwards suspended his campaign, Obama love began to bloom at The Orange Cheeto (DKos). Gradually gaining numbers like an army of ants, Obamabots began to nip and nibble at Hillary with every right wing smear they could dredge up for the past 35 years. Then as if someone at DKos had thrown a switch on Super Tuesday, 2/5/08 passion for Obama and hatred for Hillary went into high gear. Nearly every blogger who supported Hillary fled to places like The Confluence as the flame throwers of DKos attempted to purge anyone daring to criticize Obama. Super Tuesday seems to mark the day Huffington Post started monitoring comments. Until then, I had no trouble posting comments, but after Super Tuesday when Hillary refused to die like Arianna had hoped, the comments section took an ugly turn against Hillary and even my pro Hillary posts disappeared into thin air. When she was still fighting for Hillary, Taylor Marsh posted an email Clinton's Internet Director Challenges Bloggers to Cover Obama Campaign Tactics from Peter Daou, Hillary's Internet director http://tinyurl.com/5qrcc9 http://tinyurl.com/5qrcc9 Taylor Marsh 03.16.2008 Well, this is a first. Peter Daou is Clinton's Internet director. I just found out that he has sentout an email to a group of bloggers with a challenge: I challengemy online friends to call this full assault on Hillary's characterfor what it is. I got a copy of the email he sent out so I'm going to post it in its entirety.The subject title reads as follows: Barack Obama's Full AssaultOn Hillary Clinton. The email text is below: I'm writing this to a group of bloggers. Some of you are Hillary supporters, some not, some neutral. I want to address a pervasive misconception, namely, that Senator Obama hasn't run a negative campaign against Hillary. I think it's time to put that misconception to rest. The truth is that for months, the Obama campaign has been attacking Hillary, impugning her character and calling into question her lifetime of public service. And now the Chicago Tribune reports that Senator Obama is preparing a full assault on her over ethics and transparency. To those who contend that Senator Obama is the clear frontrunner, I ask, to what end this full assault on Hillary? On CNN last Tuesday, Senator Obama said, Well, look, Wolf, I think if you watch how we have conducted our campaign, we've been very measured in terms of how we talk about Senator Clinton. ... I have been careful to say, that I think that Senator Clinton is a capable person and that should she win the nomination, obviously, I would support her. You know, I'm not sure that we have been getting that same approach from the Clinton campaign. The facts of this election stand in stark contrast to that statement. Senator Obama and his senior campaign officials have engaged in a systematic effort to question Hillary's integrity, credibility, and character. They have portrayed her as someone who would put her personal gain ahead of the lives of our troops, someone who would say or do anything to win an election, someone who is dishonest, divisive and disingenuous. They have adopted shop-worn anti-Clinton talking points, dusted them off and unleashed a torrent of unfounded character attacks against her. Among other things, they have described Hillary - and her campaign - as: Disingenuous http://www.newsweek.com/id/67934 Too polarizing to win http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/768042,obhill013008.article 'Divisive' http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/768042,obhill013008.article Untruthful http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6206 Dishonest http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6206 'Calculating' http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/768042,obhill013008.article Saying and doing whatever it takes to win http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-response-to-clinton-foreign-policy-m\ emo/ Attempting to deceive the American people http://thepage.time.com/obama-response-memo-to-clinton-on-his-iraq-stan\ ce/ One of the most secretive politicians
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Barry is so sunk in fantasy, so convinced that he won't be held accountable for what he says, that he feels perfectly free to lie about what's in an article in the *New York Times*: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An article in HuffPost today (originally from the New York Times) says that all of the talk about Hillary being offered the position of SoS in the first place was leaked to the press by the *Clinton* people, not from the Obama camp. The latter are quite distraught about the leaks. http://tinyurl.com/5cd3c6 -snip- i saw the same thing on cnn and msnbc - the supposed source of the SoS leak was a common story on the news, nothing confined to just the huffington post. just one of those things that comes and goes. who cares if its true or not? i personally think hc would make one hell of a good sec o' state. You are on the right track ed11. Hillary's people carefully leaked it. Clintonistas live for the drama. 24/7 365
Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil
Rumor is it'll stay at $50 a barrel for 6 months or a year. The elite want to bankrupt the Middle East. Rumor? Crude oil is traded as a futures contract and it is the price on the futures market that determines the price the refineries pay. If anyone had enough foresight to know where the price of crude oil was heading, whether higher, lower, or sideways, he or she would have enough money to satisfy even the greedy TMO. Hint: No one knows. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Checking the price of oil To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 6:54 PM shempmcgurk wrote: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLZ08.NYM I use the above link 2 or 3 times a day because I need SOMETHING to cheer about. It's a Yahoo! link to the price of oil. Last time I checked (10 minutes ago) it was at about $48.00 which is pretty incredible considering that it was $147.00 not too long ago! Rumor is it'll stay at $50 a barrel for 6 months or a year. The elite want to bankrupt the Middle East. So will food prices and prices on other things come down as a result? Probably not. After all people like Shemp believe greed is a virtue. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Barry is so sunk in fantasy, so convinced that he won't be held accountable for what he says, that he feels perfectly free to lie about what's in an article in the *New York Times*: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: An article in HuffPost today (originally from the New York Times) says that all of the talk about Hillary being offered the position of SoS in the first place was leaked to the press by the *Clinton* people, not from the Obama camp. The latter are quite distraught about the leaks. http://tinyurl.com/5cd3c6 -snip- i saw the same thing on cnn and msnbc - the supposed source of the SoS leak was a common story on the news, nothing confined to just the huffington post. just one of those things that comes and goes. who cares if its true or not? i personally think hc would make one hell of a good sec o' state. You are on the right track ed11. Hillary's people carefully leaked it. Wow. Now Tom's lying too. Somebody explain it to me: Why do we tolerate liars on this forum, again?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 10:48 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: snip I wonder if the Hillaryphiles here are going to acknowledge that she is getting very preferential treatment here. Ever been to Hell, Curtis? (C'mon, fess up, we know you're a regular). When was the last time you saw icicles hanging there? All we'll get, if anything, is more silly rationalizing. From Sal's Self-Serving Dictionary: rationalizing--making an argument or an explanation in favor of a view Sal disagrees with
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Adolf Hitler and the Real Estate Crash
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:18 PM, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM We no longer have personal responsibility for our actions in our country, least not when it comes to buying something we can't afford. This video is politically incorrect. Those who chose to live beyond their means were the victims. Least that's the way Congress and the media portray it. Ve ver not responsible.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary jerking Obama's chain a bit?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are on the right track ed11. Hillary's people carefully leaked it. Clintonistas live for the drama. 24/7 365 Like some others we know :-), they actually seem to rate their popularity by how many people dislike them. It's like they base their effectiveness rating on their own I'm a victim index. But to lighten things up, here is Taryn Southern's followup to Hott 4 Hill, in which she takes on Sarah Palin as well: Hott 4 Hill 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOyyPjHmt0 I like Taryn Southern. She is a prime example of a new phenomenon, the Webutante. She has parlayed a modicum of talent and a knowledge of Web media into a career: http://www.taryn-southern.com/blog/ In the past, wannabe starlets had to hang out at Schwab's drugstore counter in L.A. and hope to get discovered by the men -- always men -- who ran the entertainment industry. These days they can create their own online personas and their own music videos and Webisodes and suddenly find millions of fans, before they ever hit the main- stream media and its still often male-dominated ogres. I think that's a refreshing phenomenon, when the person in question actually seems to have some talent and really cute abs. So far over 20 million people have viewed Taryn's videos. And abs.
