[FairfieldLife] Anyone remember Dan Harple (Netscape)?
Dan Harple and Osmotic(?) File System: http://webcast.zoomvision.se/clients/nim2008/nim_total/frameset.php?chapter_1.asx9video http://tinyurl.com/5e9ksb BTW, Dan might benefit quite of lot from TM... : ) Click on Geosentric, or then again, do not click!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chaplin (starring Robert Downey, Jr.) -- can't stand the real Chaplin, Then there's at least two of us. Recently tried to watch The Dictator, but found it rather boring save the speech of Hynkel in some kind of German.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do take responsibility for what I post, however. Certainly. But please do have a checking.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Crash: Update on guy who predicted this back in 2006
Nelson wrote: Some conspiracy theories are just that but most are current event reports- check into it. Check into Peter Schiff, George Soros and Warren Buffett? John and Jason said that Schiff, Soros and Buffett predicted the current crisis, and Barry said it was all a conspiracy, so how are we going to 'check' out the ones who predicted the current financial crises? This doesn't even make any sense - I'm not following the logic. Obama has already named most of his picks for government positions, and so far, most of them are the same people who engineered the crisis? Now wait just one minute. This is outrageous!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
off wrote: I actually agree with everything Willytex said here. I think the TM movement is a lot less smug than it used to be though. Here's a really nice message from Susan and I think she does a great job of introducing herself to the internet - her story doesn't seem to have any resemblance to most of the messages here by Barry, Vaj, and some of the other TMO-bashers. TM is a wonderful and effective technique. It will bring you far more blessings than can ever be described in the lectures and books you read, and no harm. - Susan Seifert Read the whole thing: I learned TM in 1968 in Boston and became a TM teacher in 1970. I was trained as a teacher by Maharishi in India and had the good fortune to spend long times with him in the early '70s. Currently I live in Fairfield, Iowa where I am a technical writer and have a small marketing and sales business. Read more: Subject: To those considering TM From: Susan Seifert Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: October 19, 1996 http://tinyurl.com/64ls3p
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Crisis - News for Shemp
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Crisis - News for Shemp Let's hope that even MORE CO2 is released...it's good for plant life. You do know, don't you, that CO2 is NOT a pollutant but a necessary factor in the life cycle. Oh, by the way, the above paper obviously has data from before this year. The latest news from up north: the northern ice cap is returning with a vengeance. Too bad...otherwise even more CO2 would be released into the atmosphere. Water is essential and good for life too, Shemp. Try drinking two gallons of it in one sitting.
[FairfieldLife] Meditation = Hovering meme in political cartooning
In this animated cartoon by the Washington Post's Ann Telnaes, you can see the Meditation = Hovering meme enacted in the cause of political spoofing. Be patient - it takes a few seconds to unfold. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/cartoonsandvideos/telnaes/telnaes_main.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 or http://tinyurl.com/yt6rb9
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Thu, 12/4/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh- Out-Loud To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:25 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) Ask your friends and family I will send out the upgraded list before Christmas. Be merry and bright Thanks Liz Animal House - aging -30 years old - the sight of helmeted ROTC leader Nedemier sp? being dragged with his feet attached to a horse galloping across the quad still brings a roar. Overboard Office Space Caddy Shack Dr. Strangelove Duck Soup It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
[FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Crisis - News for Shemp
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Crisis - News for Shemp Let's hope that even MORE CO2 is released...it's good for plant life. You do know, don't you, that CO2 is NOT a pollutant but a necessary factor in the life cycle. Oh, by the way, the above paper obviously has data from before this year. The latest news from up north: the northern ice cap is returning with a vengeance. Too bad...otherwise even more CO2 would be released into the atmosphere. Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Water is essential and good for life too, Shemp. Try drinking two gallons of it in one sitting. That's a good point! (Though I still side with Shemp in thinking that the article you linked to was alarmist). Water CO2 differ in two respects: (a) Water vapor is by far the more significant greenhouse gas (b) The US Supreme Court has ruled that CO2 IS a pollutant (http://www.dieselnet.com/news/2007/04epa.php). If they were to rule that water is a pollutant that would surely raise eyebrows?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Robin 3: The First Three Years of Enlightenment
Oh. Well, nothing then. It just struck me that my comment on Richard's post might read as some sort of implied critique of you, and if so, I wanted to square things with you. But apparently not, so that's fine, too. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't know what you are talking about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Steve, my reply to Mr. Williams was in regards to how well I felt he'd expressed his point of view, rather than any endorsement of the comments in relation to you. His POV is one that I appreciate and resonate with in some measure but don't feel completely congruent with anymore. Anyway, I just really dug how he put it -- a nice, aphoristic and classically pitched summary of the proto-hindu vedantic bhuddism that I believe he holds as correct. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Williams.) But I didn't want you to feel that I was either endorsing any critique of yo by digging how he said what he said. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I missed this little gem. Comments below --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Cogent and well said, Mr. Williams; you must have been quite an initiator in your day. Really well said. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Steve wrote: That can throw you off unless you can get past it... All you have to do, Steve, is realize that you're not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. Ok Knowing that, you can stop your striving, which like craving, is very difficult to manage. I promise., I gave up on the striving part. You know, be here now sort of thing If you understand that everything that happens to you is for a reason, you also know that there's no chance events. Ok Think of yourself as on fire, like burning up your karma. The more karma you burn up now the less karma to have to burn up in the future. Now, this I can relate to a little. For me it is not being on fire. It is more a pressure, (not unpleasant) that my kundalini, or some other energy exerts on me, usually in the area of my palate area. (strange, but true) Now all you have to do is stop accumulating any new karma. You can do that by giving up any ownership in your personal actions. I'm trying, but the prabda made me do it. So, you understand all the above, then just spend a few minutes a couple of times each day avoiding the danger that lies ahead. It sounds like you are recommending meditation. Good advice. Maybe I'll try to work that into my routine. Thanks for the comments
[FairfieldLife] Re: Affidavit: Michael Grove, Mark Frost and Michael Herkel v . Maharishi Mahesh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: You are easily disturbed Peter. Did you ever doubt that MMY was worried about the CIA at some point? Peter was not there, he doesn't have a clue. Armed americans was caught on the bridge to Kulm heading for Maharishis Suite stopped by WYMS in the last minute; Maharishis DC3 was blown up on an airfield in Germany. Hotels with CP's was set on fire in Manila. Reports of CIA activity against the Movement was coming in from every corner of the earth during the 70's and 80's due to that president Carter's bizzare religious engagements. He also engaged this foolish CIA, the greatest amatuers within the intelligence agencies of the world to stop that maharishi and his world government. What an utter fool that president Carter was, not realizing that Maharishi established The World Government of the Age of Enlightenment on the basis of consciousness, not silly politics. Slowly, CIA agents within the Movement caved in; Maharishi simply confronted them and asked them if they wanted to stay and give up their activities. If they did, knowing that would be their final choise in this life towards Knowledge, mostly they said yes. Many of these fellows, caught red-handed with CIA-material, are still today on Purusha; I know them since some of them are my friends. They are blessed indeed as they took a clear stand for rightiousness; against imperialism and against the foolishness of the CIA. What Peter understood is irrelevant. He is a shrink, a rude and naive soul. Whatever these fools of current understanding understand is ruled by whatevever is the collective thinking at this particular moment, like a football being kicked in whatever direction. This is not science. With the grace of Maharishi, we are now witnessing the transformation of this our dear world into a new age; The full sunshine of The Age of Enlightenment. Jai Guru Dev Nabbie, If you can show one thread of evidence of any of your allegations above regarding CIA infiltration into the TMO, I'll give you $1,000. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Wow, you have to be naive if you think they didn't. The point is: THEY WOULD NOT BE DOING THERE JOB PROPERLY IF THEY DID NOT INFULTRATE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS. THAT'S THER FUCKING JOB, IDIOT !So you are saying they were not doing what the taxpayer PAYS them to do? ! You are an idiot Shemp. OffWorld Gathering information about an organisation and infiltrating it are two very different things. One of the best sites on the web you can use if you are looking up information on a particular country is a CIA site: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html I don't think that all of this information was obtained by clandestine operations or infiltration of a country; rather, by getting that information from legal sources -- such as libraries -- or the countries themselves. Virtually anything the CIA would have wanted on the TMO they could have gotten completely legally...and I include in that any TM secrets as by the mid '70s pretty much all of it had been published in the media.
[FairfieldLife] Daily Show: President Bush's Painful Exit Interview
Jon Stewart reviews President Bush's downright awful interview with Charlie Gibson and reflects on just how badly the man has ruined this country, and how he refuses to accept any responsibility for it all. Do we really have to build this guy a library?! I mean, can't we just get him an arcade/go-kart course? Video here: http://crooksandliars.com/silentpatriot/daily-show-president-bushs-painful-e http://snipurl.com/79wv6
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
Naturally, I'm no more responsible for what posters at TM-Free Blog post than is Rick Archer responsible for what is posted here. Get a grip, John - it was you and Rick that posted the private emails containing the rumors about the Marshy's private sex life. Sudarsha, who was once the Maharishi's personal secretary, does claim that he found the Maharishi in bed with a young woman, although he did not see them have sex. That's wierd - I wonder why Sudarsha didn't mention this on Usenet. Maybe he forgot it, but he didn't seem to be holding anything back - Sudarsha is one of our main informants. Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Sudarsha Date: June 4, 2000 Subject: Thoughts http://tinyurl.com/5jylmj Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Kurt Arbuckle Date: August 20, 2000 Subject: One for the Sudarsha http://tinyurl.com/5rj5vw Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Sudarsha Date: 2000/08/29 Subject: To Ms. Stein From Sudarsha http://tinyurl.com/5l4oxy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daily Show: President Bush's Painful Exit Interview
John wrote: Jon Stewart reviews President Bush's downright awful interview with Charlie Gibson and reflects on just how badly the man has ruined this country, and how he refuses to accept any responsibility for it all. As George W. Bush completes the last weeks of his presidency, the phrase bloodied but unbowed comes to mind. The MSM is delighted about the first part, of course, having done all it could to inflict that condition. But it still seems to rankle that Bush has not confessed to large-scale error. With the exception of a trip to 're-education camp,' nothing Bush could do would delight his liberal detractors more than such a confession. Read more: 'that elusive final victory' Posted by Paul Mirengoff Powerline, December 3, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5z83g5
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW jmknapp53@ wrote: I do take responsibility for what I post, however. Certainly. But please do have a checking. Hmm, I seem to remember you making this joke more than a few times in the past. Does it still give you a chuckle? J.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Naturally, I'm no more responsible for what posters at TM-Free Blog post than is Rick Archer responsible for what is posted here. Get a grip, John - it was you and Rick that posted the private emails containing the rumors about the Marshy's private sex life. Well, we are talking about two separate things. You complained about the posters at TM Free Blog. I was responding to that. I did post the Sexy Sadie file, and labeled it as rumor. I don't see a problem with that? Do you? A question: Your tone comes across as quite hostile. Does that really work for you? It's pretty hard to hold a meaningful conversation with someone who is unrelentingly sarcastic and hostile. I'm wondering what this achieves for you? It doesn't encourage discussion. So perhaps you have another need that this serves for you? Sudarsha, who was once the Maharishi's personal secretary, does claim that he found the Maharishi in bed with a young woman, although he did not see them have sex. That's wierd - I wonder why Sudarsha didn't mention this on Usenet. Maybe he forgot it, but he didn't seem to be holding anything back - Sudarsha is one of our main informants. I have no idea of Sudarsha's motives for what he has and has not posted. Perhaps you should ask him directly? You can easily reach him by posting at TM Free Blog. J. Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Sudarsha Date: June 4, 2000 Subject: Thoughts http://tinyurl.com/5jylmj Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Kurt Arbuckle Date: August 20, 2000 Subject: One for the Sudarsha http://tinyurl.com/5rj5vw Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Sudarsha Date: 2000/08/29 Subject: To Ms. Stein From Sudarsha http://tinyurl.com/5l4oxy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:36 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Peter wrote: --- On Thu, 12/4/08, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: From: mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:25 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll and on and on... spare, is it really against your religion to trim off the useless stuff? Wading through all this garbage is really exhausting. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW jmknapp53@ wrote: I do take responsibility for what I post, however. Certainly. But please do have a checking. Hmm, I seem to remember you making this joke more than a few times in the past. Does it still give you a chuckle? J. i think what nablus is saying john by this gentle suggestion is that the easiest way to resolve many of the issues that we confront in life is to effortlessly transcend. granted much integration, thopughtfulness and mindfulness needs to also be a part of our lives, but without some sort of grounding, we are reduced to being reactionaries at the affect of our anxieties. so its not a joke he is making, but rather a gentle suggestion on how to truly live a happier, more effective life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a really nice message from Susan and I think she does a great job of introducing herself to the internet - her story doesn't seem to have any resemblance to most of the messages here by Barry, Vaj, and some of the other TMO-bashers. I think it's wonderful that Susan is happy with her TM and TMO experience. Others have different experiences. I think their views and experiences are valid as well. As I have not posted anything in this thread suggesting that TM is either good or bad, I'm wondering what purpose you see to posting this note in this thread? Like so many of your posts, it feels cryptic to me. I am left scratching my head. J. - John M. Knapp, LMSW Recovery from Toxic Groups, Abusive Churches Cults http://KnappFamilyCounseling.com/cults.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2,700-year-old pot stash
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The law in California under the Compassionate Use Act (CUA), first passed as proposition 215 in 1996 and somewhat expanded and clarified in 2003 (SB 420) allows an individual who has either the recommendation *or* the approval of his/her physician to use medical marijuana may do so. Both the initial prop. 215 and more recent Attorney General guidelines establish 8 oz. of cannabis bud as the amount an individual may possess under the CUA but defer to both physician recommendations and local county guidelines under the direction of the county District Attorney to set higher amounts as so determined. In Humboldt Co. that amount is 3 lbs. of bud and 99 mature plants, as long as the grow canopy does not exceed 100 square feet. It would surprise me if you observed any negative effects of cannabis on your meditation. Thank you for your thoughtful and clear information. It raises more questions for me about issues concerning residency requirements and downside for Doctors. I will and probably find the answers to my questions in a Google search. I remember reading about raids of cannabis clubs in the Oakland area and wonder if the law and Attorney General guidelines are still a work in progress. Widespread change on an issue like this seems to move slowly in our society. I presume I would be in violation of Arizona and federal law bringing legally obtained cannabis from California into Arizona. Not being in violation of the law is my priority. Perhaps if the situation in California works out with positive results, it will lead other states of the Feds to revise policy. One can hope right? I had no idea that the changes in California occurred so long ago. It would seem that some clear notions as to the effects of the change would be evident after 5 to 12 years. I have recollections from the 70's of correlating some dullness in my TM meditations subsequent to indulging. Guess I just presumed that would still be the case. The effects on the Mindfulness methods I have been practicing are what is unknown to me. My current practice comfortably utilizes TM and Mindfulness in ever evolving ways.grin Thanks again for the reply Marek Reavis. Just having the name of the law gives me a place to start a search. I find it humorous that when I was a kid I approached this subject with the intention of getting stoned, now my intention is alleviating aches and pains without having to give a couple of hundred bucks a month to pharmaceutical companies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Affidavit: Michael Grove, Mark Frost and Michael Herkel v . Maharishi Mahesh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: You are easily disturbed Peter. Did you ever doubt that MMY was worried about the CIA at some point? Peter was not there, he doesn't have a clue. Armed americans was caught on the bridge to Kulm heading for Maharishis Suite stopped by WYMS in the last minute; Maharishis DC3 was blown up on an airfield in Germany. Hotels with CP's was set on fire in Manila. Reports of CIA activity against the Movement was coming in from every corner of the earth during the 70's and 80's due to that president Carter's bizzare religious engagements. He also engaged this foolish CIA, the greatest amatuers within the intelligence agencies of the world to stop that maharishi and his world government. What an utter fool that president Carter was, not realizing that Maharishi established The World Government of the Age of Enlightenment on the basis of consciousness, not silly politics. Slowly, CIA agents within the Movement caved in; Maharishi simply confronted them and asked them if they wanted to stay and give up their activities. If they did, knowing that would be their final choise in this life towards Knowledge, mostly they said yes. Many of these fellows, caught red-handed with CIA-material, are still today on Purusha; I know them since some of them are my friends. They are blessed indeed as they took a clear stand for rightiousness; against imperialism and against the foolishness of the CIA. What Peter understood is irrelevant. He is a shrink, a rude and naive soul. Whatever these fools of current understanding understand is ruled by whatevever is the collective thinking at this particular moment, like a football being kicked in whatever direction. This is not science. With the grace of Maharishi, we are now witnessing the transformation of this our dear world into a new age; The full sunshine of The Age of Enlightenment. Jai Guru Dev Nabbie, If you can show one thread of evidence of any of your allegations above regarding CIA infiltration into the TMO, I'll give you $1,000. Otherwise, shut the fuck up. Wow, you have to be naive if you think they didn't. The point is: THEY WOULD NOT BE DOING THERE JOB PROPERLY IF THEY DID NOT INFULTRATE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS. THAT'S THER FUCKING JOB, IDIOT !So you are saying they were not doing what the taxpayer PAYS them to do? ! You are an idiot Shemp. OffWorld Gathering information about an organisation and infiltrating it are two very different things. One of the best sites on the web you can use if you are looking up information on a particular country is a CIA site: Lol ! I bet you thought the best way to understand McCain/Palin was to listen to what they said too ! https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html I don't think that all of this information was obtained by clandestine operations or infiltration of a country; rather, by getting that information from legal sources -- such as libraries -- or the countries themselves. You are living in cloud-cuckoo land. OffWorld @ Off_World_Land_for_Sale.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
Get a grip, John - it was you and Rick that posted the private emails containing the rumors about the Marshy's private sex life. John M. Knapp wrote: Well, we are talking about two separate things. You complained about the posters at TM Free Blog. I was responding to that. You are a poster on your own blog, are you not? I did post the Sexy Sadie file, and labeled it as rumor. I don't see a problem with that? Do you? But you're supposed to be a 'professional' counselor, Mr. Knapp. What are you doing posting rumors on the internet? It doesn't even make any sense. It's very counterproductive to post libelous rumors on a 'counseling' site. I'm wondering what this achieves for you? It doesn't encourage discussion. So perhaps you have another need that this serves for you? For deeper understanding to occur, I think the individuals in the discussion have to meet a minimum standard of truthfulness. Factual accuracy is a given, of course, but if the individual promoting one point of view routinely twists those facts, there can be no progress toward understanding, no matter how spirited the exchange. Read more: From: Judy Stein Subject: Another Journalist'sÿ Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Saturday, January 21, 1995 http://tinyurl.com/5qweqg
[FairfieldLife] Re: 2,700-year-old pot stash
Comments interleaved: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **snip Thank you for your thoughtful and clear information. It raises more questions for me about issues concerning residency requirements and downside for Doctors. I will and probably find the answers to my questions in a Google search. ** As to any adverse reprecussions for doctors recommending medical cannabis, the law in California is clear that there are none. For one, doctors don't (and can't) *prescribe* cannabis, they can either recommend it (and provide their patients with a document to that effect along with a period of time during which the recommendation is valid (generally one year), after which the recommendation has to be renewed. Or, in the alternative, they can approve their patients' use of medical cannabis, though this means that, rather than avoid prosecution for possession, cultivation, or transportation altogether, the person can present an affirmative defense to the charge and have the physician testify that they had approved the use of medical marijuana. Federal law, however, still lists cannabis as a Schedule I narcotic for which there is no medical or scientific use and, therefore completely illegal. However, since doctors don't *prescribe*, but merely recommend, there's no possible penalty under Federal laws for physicians who recommend it (or approve it). ** I remember reading about raids of cannabis clubs in the Oakland area and wonder if the law and Attorney General guidelines are still a work in progress. Widespread change on an issue like this seems to move slowly in our society. I presume I would be in violation of Arizona and federal law bringing legally obtained cannabis from California into Arizona. Not being in violation of the law is my priority. Perhaps if the situation in California works out with positive results, it will lead other states of the Feds to revise policy. One can hope right? I had no idea that the changes in California occurred so long ago. It would seem that some clear notions as to the effects of the change would be evident after 5 to 12 years. ** Even if you obtain cannabis in California legally, coming back to your home state where it remains illegal leaves you subject to arrest and prosecution. So you have to be careful and prudent if you go about it. Raids of medical marijuana dispensaries and cannabis clubs by the Feds happen with some sort of cyclical regularity because it's still entirely illegal under Federal law and because the dispensaries can and frequently do become huge money machines for the owners. They attract the government's attention and they raid them. But that's all done by the Federal agencies, not the state authorities. State law is evolving. Just a couple of weeks ago the California Supreme Court issued a brightline rule regarding the requirements to be a designated caregiver under the CUA (People v. Mentch), that blew the defense in a lot of cases currently in litigation including one I had just filed a brief on the day before the decision came down. ** I have recollections from the 70's of correlating some dullness in my TM meditations subsequent to indulging. Guess I just presumed that would still be the case. The effects on the Mindfulness methods I have been practicing are what is unknown to me. My current practice comfortably utilizes TM and Mindfulness in ever evolving ways.grin Thanks again for the reply Marek Reavis. Just having the name of the law gives me a place to start a search. I find it humorous that when I was a kid I approached this subject with the intention of getting stoned, now my intention is alleviating aches and pains without having to give a couple of hundred bucks a month to pharmaceutical companies. ** In my opinion, using cannabis for purposes other than medicine are equally valid and its suppression is unwarranted except for the commonsense prohibition against its use by minors. The whole war on drugs has been a costly mistake and the sooner we adopt a harm reduction model on the issue of drugs of all sorts, as opposed to a pointless (and hopeless) attempt to suppress both supply and demand, the better for all. You're welcome. Marek
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Robin 3: The First Three Years of Enlightenment
Knowing that, you can stop your striving, which like craving, is very difficult to manage. lurk wrote: I gave up on the striving part. If you can give up striving, even a very subtle 'greed for views', you'll be in an enlightened state. That's the ticket - be free of even a view - just BE and you are the Buddha. You know, be here now sort of thing It's here now, wasn't it? According to A.J. Bahm: The Middle Way, believing neither that one will attain more certainty than he will attain nor that he will attain less certainty than he will attain, again needs to be sought. But again too avid seeking for the Middle Way embodies a more subtle greed which must be rooted out by more subtle efforts, without pursuing such uprooting greedily, but by means of a still more subtle Middle Way. The problem of stopping anguish is sufficiently difficult, complex, and attention-demanding that anyone who pursues it will have little time left over for indulging unhappily in metaphysical pursuits (Bahm, 1959). Read more: Author: willytex Subject: The Principle Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: September 18, 2001 http://tinyurl.com/6ew6m7
[FairfieldLife] Re: Assault near MUM
I don't pack a pistol. Never will. I grew up in Detroit and I developed a keen sense of city paranoia. It wears on you. Don't talk to, smile or look at strangers, men in particular, and avoid high crime areas, which is nearly impossible. I traveled everywhere on a city bus, often alone, until I got a car in my senior year at Wayne State University. There were three occasions I escaped an attack in three different cities. In Detroit, I was meeting college friends for a beer. I parked my VW and out of the corner of my eye, I saw a man moving quickly around the opposite end of the building I wanted to enter. I felt he was making a move to head me off at the door. I ran like hell and sure enough, he just missed making a grab for me at the door. I had traveled to New York City a few times and was just getting comfortable with the subway system. One day, I got off at a stop, confused about which side of the street I was on. It was getting dark and I was walking in the opposite direction of my destination. As I turned to backtrack, I saw a man emerge from the shadows of a doorway. I didn't wait to see if he was going to head my way, I just started running like hell. I ran to end of the block where I saw several people on the street. I looked back and sure enough, he had been running to catch me. I had been shopping in Toronto. It was early evening and I was walking to my hotel. I took a short cut through a brick alleyway lined with quaint little shops in a very upscale area, it was wide and well lit. Suddenly I felt the creepy presence of someone following me. I took a quick look back, saw a man and started to run like hell toward a main street about 50 feet away. As I ducked into a nightclub, I looked back and sure enough, it was the same man who was now slowing his pace and only ten feet away from me, reversing course. Ladies, stay fit and wear your athletic shoes. If can recall the details, vividly, of near misses, that happened years ago, I can only imagine the unbelievable emotional trauma a woman must experience in her consciousness from rapes and beatings. It's horrible to think that women are always at risk for an attack by a man, but it's a reality of women throughout the world. We are fortunate living in a relatively safe community. I've been here since 1979 from the Amherst course and have completely dropped my city paranoia, thank God, it's a lot of work. I believe men don't fear attacks from others to the degree that women do. Lucky guys. Curtis has said he is aware of a man's innate role as a protector of women. This is the role men in my life, and I feel that from him, but when women are alone, they have to rely on the protection of society, its norms, beliefs, attitudes, values, custom, habit, and acceptable conduct in language, and behavior. I didn't come to this forum expecting to defend myself against sexism, but it seems to have become a theme that I feel compelled to address. I believe I owe it to all women to defend myself against physical/emotional abuse and verbal attacks that belittle me for my sex. I may return fire in kind on the forum but it's done in the spirit of raising awareness that everyone has a responsibility to protect vulnerable individuals and minorities in society, whether they are female, a person of color, or gay. We can do better.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
Bhairitu wrote: Grandma's Boy Smiley Face Both are stoner comedies but very laugh out loud. And add The Ten to that list. Very funny comedy based on the Ten Commandments.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Crash: Update on guy who predicted this back in 2006
Nelson wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nelson wrote: + Look what is happening to the value of the cash- better spend it before it gets down to where it can be used for mulch or starting fires. Or worth less than toilet paper. Maybe we should stock up on toilet paper or beans and rice or ammo. + All of the above and more. Financial crisis? Who controls the federal reserve- have you researched those people and their motives. They are the common denominator of the two party system which would mean the elected officials have little to do with running things. Some conspiracy theories are just that but most are current event reports- check into it. N. Oh I have... for years. I started looking at conspiracies back in the late 1960's. Many of the free press papers such as the Berkeley Barb and the L.A. Free Press had such articles. And yes, the Fed is a big problem. We need to abolish it. And tax away the wealthy. You are always going to have a problem if 1% of population controls the majority of the wealth. They have way too much power and way too little moral compass. The lack of moral compass is how they got rich in the first place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get a grip, John - it was you and Rick that posted the private emails containing the rumors about the Marshy's private sex life. John M. Knapp wrote: Well, we are talking about two separate things. You complained about the posters at TM Free Blog. I was responding to that. You are a poster on your own blog, are you not? I did post the Sexy Sadie file, and labeled it as rumor. I don't see a problem with that? Do you? But you're supposed to be a 'professional' counselor, Mr. Knapp. What are you doing posting rumors on the internet? It doesn't even make any sense. It's very counterproductive to post libelous rumors on a 'counseling' site. I'm wondering what this achieves for you? It doesn't encourage discussion. So perhaps you have another need that this serves for you? For deeper understanding to occur, I think the individuals in the discussion have to meet a minimum standard of truthfulness. Factual accuracy is a given, of course, but if the individual promoting one point of view routinely twists those facts, there can be no progress toward understanding, no matter how spirited the exchange. Read more: From: Judy Stein Subject: Another Journalist'sÿ Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Saturday, January 21, 1995 http://tinyurl.com/5qweqg Tex, discussing MMY is very different from discussing any one of us or other private figure. MMY was a public figure that had tremendous influence on a large number of people and one way or another had a big effect on each of our lives. So, in my mind rumors are fair game to share and discuss, but I do appreciate when they are identified as such. By sharing rumors maybe some truth can be found. MMY was very secretive and I am surprised at how little we really know about him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Assault near MUM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't pack a pistol. Never will. I grew up in Detroit and I developed a keen sense of city paranoia. It wears on you. Don't talk to, smile or look at strangers, men in particular, and avoid high crime areas, which is nearly impossible. I traveled everywhere on a city bus, often alone, until I got a car in my senior year at Wayne State University. There were three occasions I escaped an attack in three different cities. In Detroit, I was meeting college friends for a beer. I parked my VW and out of the corner of my eye, I saw a man moving quickly around the opposite end of the building I wanted to enter. I felt he was making a move to head me off at the door. I ran like hell and sure enough, he just missed making a grab for me at the door. I had traveled to New York City a few times and was just getting comfortable with the subway system. One day, I got off at a stop, confused about which side of the street I was on. It was getting dark and I was walking in the opposite direction of my destination. As I turned to backtrack, I saw a man emerge from the shadows of a doorway. I didn't wait to see if he was going to head my way, I just started running like hell. I ran to end of the block where I saw several people on the street. I looked back and sure enough, he had been running to catch me. I had been shopping in Toronto. It was early evening and I was walking to my hotel. I took a short cut through a brick alleyway lined with quaint little shops in a very upscale area, it was wide and well lit. Suddenly I felt the creepy presence of someone following me. I took a quick look back, saw a man and started to run like hell toward a main street about 50 feet away. As I ducked into a nightclub, I looked back and sure enough, it was the same man who was now slowing his pace and only ten feet away from me, reversing course. Ladies, stay fit and wear your athletic shoes. If can recall the details, vividly, of near misses, that happened years ago, I can only imagine the unbelievable emotional trauma a woman must experience in her consciousness from rapes and beatings. It's horrible to think that women are always at risk for an attack by a man, but it's a reality of women throughout the world. We are fortunate living in a relatively safe community. I've been here since 1979 from the Amherst course and have completely dropped my city paranoia, thank God, it's a lot of work. I believe men don't fear attacks from others to the degree that women do. Lucky guys. Curtis has said he is aware of a man's innate role as a protector of women. This is the role men in my life, and I feel that from him, but when women are alone, they have to rely on the protection of society, its norms, beliefs, attitudes, values, custom, habit, and acceptable conduct in language, and behavior. I didn't come to this forum expecting to defend myself against sexism, but it seems to have become a theme that I feel compelled to address. I believe I owe it to all women to defend myself against physical/emotional abuse and verbal attacks that belittle me for my sex. I may return fire in kind on the forum but it's done in the spirit of raising awareness that everyone has a responsibility to protect vulnerable individuals and minorities in society, whether they are female, a person of color, or gay. We can do better. Good post Raunch.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Crisis - News for Shemp
This Arctic methane gas issue is going to be the topic on today's Talk of the Nation - Science Friday on NPR.
[FairfieldLife] Oil is at...
...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Climate Crisis - News for Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Arctic methane gas issue is going to be the topic on today's Talk of the Nation - Science Friday on NPR. Hey, Rick, didn't you know that everyone at NPR are communists?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. While I greatly appreciate the lower gas prices (I drive a Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 pickup with a thirsty 360V8 and 33 gallon tank), I'm still seriously pondering the purchase of a 3-door 5-speed Toyota Yaris. What I'd really like is an electric car capable of highway speeds for zipping to town and back, but I'm waiting for that technology to mature a bit more.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Robin 3: The First Three Years of Enlightenment
---Nope. nonsense, total rubbish. Striving is the essential ingredient. No pain, no gain. That is, hopefully to avoid the stress associated with striving for a possibly distant goal; but maintaining a regular program of sadhana that chips away at the obstacles, day by day, rain or shine. In practice, MMY's them of effortless doesn't pan out. As techniques go, TM and similar techniques may tend toward effortlessnes but bodily stresses and accumulated injuries to the body over the years also make one more aware of what Eckart Tolle calls the pain body. But his remedy for this doesn't work. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knowing that, you can stop your striving, which like craving, is very difficult to manage. lurk wrote: I gave up on the striving part. If you can give up striving, even a very subtle 'greed for views', you'll be in an enlightened state. That's the ticket - be free of even a view - just BE and you are the Buddha. You know, be here now sort of thing It's here now, wasn't it? According to A.J. Bahm: The Middle Way, believing neither that one will attain more certainty than he will attain nor that he will attain less certainty than he will attain, again needs to be sought. But again too avid seeking for the Middle Way embodies a more subtle greed which must be rooted out by more subtle efforts, without pursuing such uprooting greedily, but by means of a still more subtle Middle Way. The problem of stopping anguish is sufficiently difficult, complex, and attention-demanding that anyone who pursues it will have little time left over for indulging unhappily in metaphysical pursuits (Bahm, 1959). Read more: Author: willytex Subject: The Principle Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: September 18, 2001 http://tinyurl.com/6ew6m7
[FairfieldLife] McCain Campaign Spent $110,000 on Palins Stylists
That's on top of the $150,000 clothes and $30,000 accessories and possibly more receipts coming in. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/mccain-campaign-spent-11-on-palin-stylists/ But it was probably worth it = look at all the horny middle aged white guys like shemp and willy that went gaga over her. McCain could never turn them on like that.
[FairfieldLife] India to curb Pakistani terrorism once and for all
Attn: Abdul Kalam, a Positive Counter-Terrorism Method for India Maj Gen (Retd) Kulwant Singh, PhD, UYSM, John Hagelin India has to have positive counter-terrorism methods so that we can end terrorism once for all. If evil minds combine, good minds have to cooperate and combat them, -- Former President APJ Abdul Kalam, 2 December 2008 All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) The attack by gunmen on Mumbai's landmarks and hotels shows that the armed forces of India, despite their advanced technologies and valiant efforts, are still struggling to eliminate violent extremismâand cannot guarantee peace for the nation. Clearly a new approach is needed. Violent extremism is a human problem requiring human solutions. The underlying cause of extremist social violence is accumulated social stress. Therefore, to protect the nation effectively, the armed forces need first to reduce the collective societal stress in India. A new technology of defense now exists that can accomplish this goal. It is based upon the latest discoveries in the fields of physics, neuroscience, and physiology. Ultimately, it is based on the discovery of the unified field of all the laws of natureâthe most fundamental and powerful level of natureâs dynamics. Extensive research has confirmed its effectiveness. This new technology is easily applied, highly cost-effective, and can prevent disruption and attack from within the country or outside the country. This approach is known today as the Invincible Defense Technology (IDT). It has its roots in ancient Vedic technologies of consciousness, revived in modern times by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as a non-religious approach to peace. These technologies of consciousness directly access and harness the unified field on the deepest level of human experienceâpure consciousness itself. Extensive scientific research indicates that this approach reduces collective societal stress, eliminates extremism and thereby snuffs out war and terrorism. Over the past three decades it has been quietly and successfully used by members of many faiths to defuse and eliminate conflict. The approach involves the creation of large groups of peace-creating experts practicing Invincible Defense Technology together. A Prevention Wing of the Military consisting of approximately 2% to 3% of the military of India could easily achieve this goal. This special unit would be trained in the Vedic technologies of consciousness revived by Maharishiâthe Transcendental Meditation (TM) and TM- Sidhi programsâand would practice these techniques in large groups, twice a day. Extensive research shows that the size of the group needed to reduce social stress in a given population should exceed the square root of 1% of the population size. To calculate this number, multiply the population size by 0.01, and then take the square root of the result. The population of India, for example, is about 1,121,800,000, and 1,121,800,000 x 0.01 = 11,218,000. The square root of 11,218,000 is approximately 3,350, so a group of at least 3,350 IDT experts is needed to create the desired effect of national peace. Studies show that when the required threshold of IDT experts is crossed, crime rates go down in the affected population, quality of life indices go up, and terrorism and war abate. Scientists refer to this phenomenon as the Maharishi Effect in honor of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who first predicted it. As an example of this effect, in 1993 a two-month Maharishi Effect intervention was implemented in Washington, DC, the capital city of the US. Predictions of specific drops in crime and other indices were lodged in advance with government leaders and newspapers. An independent Project Review Board approved the research protocol. The findings showed that crime fell 24 percent below expected levels when the group size reached its maximum. Temperature, weekend effects, and previous trends in the data failed to account for these changes. The study was published in Social Indicators Research (1999, vol. 47, 153-201). Over 50 studies have shown that IDT works. The causal mechanism has been postulated to be a field effect of consciousnessâa spillover effect on the level of the unified field from the peace-creating group into the larger population. On this basis, a study in the Journal of Social Behavior and Personality (2005, vol. 17, #1, pp. 339-373) additionally offers a proposed explanation of causality in biological terms. Research conducted on the powerful neurotransmitter serotonin shows that it produces feelings of contentment, happiness and even euphoria. Low levels of serotonin, according to research, correlate with violence, aggression, and poor emotional moods. The IDT study showed that higher numbers of IDT experts correlated
[FairfieldLife] Re: Daily Show: President Bush's Painful Exit Interview
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Stewart reviews President Bush's downright awful interview with Charlie Gibson and reflects on just how badly the man has ruined this country, and how he refuses to accept any responsibility for it all. Do we really have to build this guy a library?! I mean, can't we just get him an arcade/go-kart course? Bush has a malefic yoga in his natal chart. It's called Kala Sarpa Yoga which has contributed to the sufferings of the nation, from an ill-fated engagement in the Iraq War and now the collapse of the stock market, and succeeding fixes in the form of bailouts to the financial institutions and perhaps the auto industry. Since Bush does not know jyotish, he will of course deny his involvement with the national fiasco to his dying days. The media in turn will forever analyze this administration for its failures and thus become a compilation of stories for history books.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. While I greatly appreciate the lower gas prices (I drive a Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 pickup with a thirsty 360V8 and 33 gallon tank), I'm still seriously pondering the purchase of a 3-door 5-speed Toyota Yaris. What I'd really like is an electric car capable of highway speeds for zipping to town and back, but I'm waiting for that technology to mature a bit more. I've considered a Yaris too. Though the 5 speed gives you the best mileage my experience with my first Subaru which was a 5 speed soured me on buying another manual transmission car again. If I was on a trip with someone, I was stuck driving all the way.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Oil is at...
shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Assault near MUM
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:25 AM, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry that you've had these experiences and I wish you the best. Of course don't change your behavior but be mindful that there are helpful men out there as well. I am very attuned to the sort of experiences you've had and more than once ran down the sorts of guys you've encountered. I've been warned before that I could get nabbed as the stalker/attacker in situations like this but the woman's welfare matters more than me. I seem to convey something to women that I mean safety. More than once I've convinced teen aged girls and women whose car had died to jump in as I take them to the next tollbooth on the turnpike or whatever. I understand how scary being offered a ride to safety by a strange man must be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so its not a joke he is making, but rather a gentle suggestion on how to truly live a happier, more effective life. Hi, enlightened dawn, I think I liked it better when I thought it was a joke! I practiced TM and the sidhis exactly as instructed for 23 years. Certainly got checked numerous times, became a governor myself. I think if TM were the answer for me, it would have helped by now. I have no doubt that many people here and elsewhere are quite satisfied with their TM practice and involvement in the Org. I wonder, is it possible for them to accept that others have different viewpoints and experiences? I work with people experiencing problems with their TM practice every day. But I recognize everyone's feelings about TM exist on a continuum from very happy to very troubled. I can readily accept that. Like most things in life, it's good for some, not good for others. That to me seems a balanced view. I know that some people feel that TM is the highest knowledge, works for everyone, has only positive effects. This to me seems an unbalanced view based on the reports my clients and others give me. TM: neither fully evil or good. Fulfilling for some, downright dangerous for others. And every flavor in between. J. - John M. Knapp, LMSW Recovery from Toxic Groups, Abusive Churches Cults http://KnappFamilyCounseling.com/cults.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Affidavit: Michael Grove, Mark Frost and Michael Herkel v . Maharishi Mahesh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtually anything the CIA would have wanted on the TMO they could have gotten completely legally...and I include in that any TM secrets as by the mid '70s pretty much all of it had been published in the media. Correct. That peanutfarmer Carter freaked out when Maharishi declared The Dawn of the Age Enlightenment in 1975 on Lake Lucerne and spurred that pathetic agency, worldwide known for leading a great nation into an unrightous war costing thounsands of american lives, into action to eleminate the only Saint the americans had ever met. Our great Seer, Maharishi of these times was the first to proclaim what now is becoming obvious for all to see. Now that the result of Maharishis tireless efforts is materializing and the energies of Carter et al are going out of history finally, along with the aging nay-sayers of FFL, we can soon enjoy the Full Sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? We as consumers should not be deceived by the current slide of oil prices. IMO, it's a mirage and if we continue with our habits of buying gas guzzlers, the same problems will recur in the near future. When will the US auto industry read the handwriting on the wall?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? We as consumers should not be deceived by the current slide of oil prices. IMO, it's a mirage and if we continue with our habits of buying gas guzzlers, the same problems will recur in the near future. When will the US auto industry read the handwriting on the wall?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are a poster on your own blog, are you not? I'm even more confused. What is your point? As I said in the previous post, I posted the Sexy Sadie file. I'm really having trouble following you. But you're supposed to be a 'professional' counselor, Mr. Knapp. What are you doing posting rumors on the internet? It doesn't even make any sense. It's very counterproductive to post libelous rumors on a 'counseling' site. More hostility! I'm not sure what conflict you see between me being a licensed, credential professional and posting a rumor -- clearly marked as such. The rumor is not libelous. And you remain confused, I think. I have never characterized TM Free Blog as a counseling site. I believe it's stated somewhere on the blog that it is not. It's a place to discuss TM skepticism. Some people use it as a self-help aid, but that doesn't make it a counseling site. We've had 115 hundred visits since we founded TM Free Blog nearly 2 years ago. There is a lively and growing community who choose to take part in the comments. Nearly every commenter reports finding the site useful. I urge you to make your views known on the Blog. There's room for pretty much any viewpoint there. Like your point about calling me an exit counselor, I have told you before it is not a counseling site. I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to accomplish by repeating these assertions over and over despite having been told they aren't the case. For an organization as secretive as the TM Org, sometimes the only point for discussion is rumor. There are some excellent sources in the Sexy Sadie file, certainly good enough to warrant publishing in a mainstream publication -- if they were interested in the material. Posting material like that, which is adequately sourced, is common among most mainstream publications -- provided it is labeled as unconfirmed. Which I did when I posted it. To me it seems remarkable that you are concerned about the file some years after it was made public. By all means if you have some first-hand knowledge or access to adequate sources, make your views known on the blog. Or perhaps, why not start your own blog from which you can publicize your own truth? I'm wondering what this achieves for you? It doesn't encourage discussion. So perhaps you have another need that this serves for you? For deeper understanding to occur, I think the individuals in the discussion have to meet a minimum standard of truthfulness. Factual accuracy is a given, of course, but if the individual promoting one point of view routinely twists those facts, there can be no progress toward understanding, no matter how spirited the exchange. Read more: From: Judy Stein Subject: Another Journalist'sÿ Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Saturday, January 21, 1995 http://tinyurl.com/5qweqg Another oblique, cryptic, post dating back nearly 14 years. May I ask what facts you feel I am twisting? My take is that intelligent, well-intentioned people exist on all sides of the TM question. We all represent the truth as we see it. And despite our best intentions and intelligence, we disagree on some fundamental issues. Sounds like real life! No need to demonize TM believers or TM critics. We can easily discuss our differences if we drop hostility and talk about the substance. J. - John M. Knapp, LMSW Recovery from Toxic Groups, Abusive Churches Cults http://KnappFamilyCounseling.com/cults.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
-- Tex, discussing MMY is very different from discussing any one of us or other private figure. MMY was a public figure that had tremendous influence on a large number of people and one way or another had a big effect on each of our lives. So, in my mind rumors are fair game to share and discuss, but I do appreciate when they are identified as such. By sharing rumors maybe some truth can be found. MMY was very secretive and I am surprised at how little we really know about him. What she said. J. - John M. Knapp, LMSW Recovery from Toxic Groups, Abusive Churches Cults http://KnappFamilyCounseling.com/cults.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? We as consumers should not be deceived by the current slide of oil prices. IMO, it's a mirage and if we continue with our habits of buying gas guzzlers, the same problems will recur in the near future. When will the US auto industry read the handwriting on the wall? Question for ya, John. I received two copies of this email. Did you send it twice or click submit twice on the web site? Or do we have an example of Yahoo sending a mail twice. Alex should check to see if he got a duplicate too. They are both marked the same time. I see the ID's coming up at message 200674 and 200675. Seems that maybe Yahoo sent it twice.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. While I greatly appreciate the lower gas prices (I drive a Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 pickup with a thirsty 360V8 and 33 gallon tank), I'm still seriously pondering the purchase of a 3-door 5-speed Toyota Yaris. What I'd really like is an electric car capable of highway speeds for zipping to town and back, but I'm waiting for that technology to mature a bit more. I've considered a Yaris too. Though the 5 speed gives you the best mileage my experience with my first Subaru which was a 5 speed soured me on buying another manual transmission car again. If I was on a trip with someone, I was stuck driving all the way. For the first 20 years of driving, I had a manual transmission. Not any more. I gladly pay the extra hundred or two hundred dollars a year more in additional gas it costs me not have to shift all the time...especially in bumper to bumper traffic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? If the bailout/economic meltdown results in lost jobs and a lowering of consumers' economic status (i.e., less money available for gasoline), then oil price falls because of lessening demand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: India to curb Pakistani terrorism once and for all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attn: Abdul Kalam, a Positive Counter-Terrorism Method for India Maj Gen (Retd) Kulwant Singh, PhD, UYSM, John Hagelin India has to have positive counter-terrorism methods so that we can end terrorism once for all. If evil minds combine, good minds have to cooperate and combat them, -- Former President APJ Abdul Kalam, 2 December 2008 All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) MMY's peace technology appears to be a viable solution for the violence in India. Since this technology was derived from the Indian tradition, it would be logical that the people of India should practice it. Nonetheless, one should not exclude the use of education of the public as the means to reduce the ignorance of the world today. This is the long term solution, but will take many generations to realize.
[FairfieldLife] Getting Laid Off Before You Start
I was just speaking with a friend who took a holiday job at Target. He told me that they hired a bunch of people for the holidays and then had to call them back to say to lay them off before they even worked one day! He said they were even cutting hours on existing employees. I haven't seen this reported in the MSM yet but it should be. That's how bad it is getting.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? We as consumers should not be deceived by the current slide of oil prices. IMO, it's a mirage and if we continue with our habits of buying gas guzzlers, the same problems will recur in the near future. When will the US auto industry read the handwriting on the wall? Question for ya, John. I received two copies of this email. Did you send it twice or click submit twice on the web site? Or do we have an example of Yahoo sending a mail twice. Alex should check to see if he got a duplicate too. They are both marked the same time. I see the ID's coming up at message 200674 and 200675. Seems that maybe Yahoo sent it twice. I only sent it once. There must be glitch in the system for the dual posting.
[FairfieldLife] OJ Gets 33 years
He deserves every year of his sentence. He's just a stupid fool for falling into an apparent trap of trying to recover his old momentos. This could also mean that he has the karma for going into jail. And, IMO it is becoming more apparent that he may have killed his wife back in 1994. He is an example of a man living in bondage, in more ways than one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- On Thu, 12/4/08, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: From: mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh- Out-Loud To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:25 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) Ask your friends and family I will send out the upgraded list before Christmas. Be merry and bright Thanks Liz Animal House - aging -30 years old - the sight of helmeted ROTC leader Nedemier sp? being dragged with his feet attached to a horse galloping across the quad still brings a roar. Overboard Office Space Caddy Shack Dr. Strangelove Duck Soup It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World I would add: Brain Donors, and Ferris Buehler's Day Off (remember Mr. Rooney, the principal of the high school?).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? We as consumers should not be deceived by the current slide of oil prices. IMO, it's a mirage and if we continue with our habits of buying gas guzzlers, the same problems will recur in the near future. When will the US auto industry read the handwriting on the wall? Question for ya, John. I received two copies of this email. Did you send it twice or click submit twice on the web site? Or do we have an example of Yahoo sending a mail twice. Alex should check to see if he got a duplicate too. They are both marked the same time. I see the ID's coming up at message 200674 and 200675. Seems that maybe Yahoo sent it twice. I only sent it once. There must be glitch in the system for the dual posting. Thanks. I see it is duplicated on the web site too. I'm trying to see if there is a way I can flag duplicates and possibly eliminate them in the script.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? If the bailout/economic meltdown results in lost jobs and a lowering of consumers' economic status (i.e., less money available for gasoline), then oil price falls because of lessening demand. The problem with that scenario is that people haven't cut back driving that much! No, I agree with the folks who are saying there is a concerted effort to drive down the prices to bankrupt the Middle East oil exporters. Some of the skyscrapers that were going to be built in Saudi Arabia have already been canceled due to the drop in prices. Plus, OPEC keeps meeting to agree to cut output to drive up prices.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- On Thu, 12/4/08, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: From: mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh- Out-Loud To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:25 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) Ask your friends and family I will send out the upgraded list before Christmas. Be merry and bright Thanks Liz Animal House - aging -30 years old - the sight of helmeted ROTC leader Nedemier sp? being dragged with his feet attached to a horse galloping across the quad still brings a roar. Overboard Office Space Caddy Shack Dr. Strangelove Duck Soup It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World I would add: Brain Donors, and Ferris Buehler's Day Off (remember Mr. Rooney, the principal of the high school?). And lets not forget the Christopher Guest comedies: This Is Spinal Tap Waiting for Guffman A Mighty Wind To name a few. You can also just look up these and other comedies at: http://imdb.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- On Thu, 12/4/08, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: From: mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh- Out-Loud To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:25 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) Ask your friends and family I will send out the upgraded list before Christmas. Be merry and bright Thanks Liz Animal House - aging -30 years old - the sight of helmeted ROTC leader Nedemier sp? being dragged with his feet attached to a horse galloping across the quad still brings a roar. Overboard Office Space Caddy Shack Dr. Strangelove Duck Soup It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World I would add: Brain Donors, and Ferris Buehler's Day Off (remember Mr. Rooney, the principal of the high school?). And lets not forget the Christopher Guest comedies: This Is Spinal Tap Waiting for Guffman A Mighty Wind To name a few. You can also just look up these and other comedies at: http://imdb.com But would you describe the above mentioned movies as laugh out loud movies? I wouldn't. I loved ALL the ones you mention but I can't say I slapped my knee at them...it wasn't that kind of humor. Here are two examples of works that are funny or quirky and, certainly, comedic and I love them to pieces...but I wouldn't say I ever laughed out loud at them: Curb your enthusiasm and SCTV
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Robin 3: The First Three Years of Enlightenment
yifuxero wrote: Striving is the essential ingredient. The Principle: (1) Unhappiness consists in frustration (dissatisfaction, anxiety). (2) It originates in desiring what will not be attained. (3) It ceases when one ceases to desire what will not be attained. (4) The method is to seek the middle way between wanting things to be more than they are or less than they are with respect to any way that they are. Read more: Author: willytex Subject: The Principle Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: September 18, 2001 http://tinyurl.com/6ew6m7
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCain Campaign Spent $110,000 on Palins Stylists
boo wrote: McCain Campaign Spent $110,000 on Palin's Stylists Liberals howl that Palin has no experience, no qualifications to be president of the United States. But the lady has more executive experience than McCain, Joe Biden and Obama put together. None of them has ever started or run a business as Palin did. None of them has run a giant state like Alaska, which is larger than California and Texas put together. And though Alaska is not populous, Gov. Palin has as many constituents as Nancy Pelosi or Biden. She has no foreign policy experience, we are told. And though Alaska's neighbors are Canada and Russia, the point is valid. But from the day she takes office, Palin will get daily briefings and sit on the National Security Council with the president and secretaries of state, treasury and defense. She will be up to speed in her first year. And her experience as governor of Alaska, dealing with the oil industry and pipeline agreements with Canada, certainly compares favorably with that of Barack Obama, a community organizer who dealt in the mommy issues of food stamps and rent subsidies. Read more: 'Johnny's got a new girl' Posted by Patrick J. Buchanan World Net, September 02, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6q6k4w
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- On Thu, 12/4/08, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: From: mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh- Out-Loud To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:25 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) Ask your friends and family I will send out the upgraded list before Christmas. Be merry and bright Thanks Liz Animal House - aging -30 years old - the sight of helmeted ROTC leader Nedemier sp? being dragged with his feet attached to a horse galloping across the quad still brings a roar. Overboard Office Space Caddy Shack Dr. Strangelove Duck Soup It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World I would add: Brain Donors, and Ferris Buehler's Day Off (remember Mr. Rooney, the principal of the high school?). And lets not forget the Christopher Guest comedies: This Is Spinal Tap Waiting for Guffman A Mighty Wind To name a few. You can also just look up these and other comedies at: http://imdb.com But would you describe the above mentioned movies as laugh out loud movies? I wouldn't. I loved ALL the ones you mention but I can't say I slapped my knee at them...it wasn't that kind of humor. Here are two examples of works that are funny or quirky and, certainly, comedic and I love them to pieces...but I wouldn't say I ever laughed out loud at them: Curb your enthusiasm and SCTV I love Curb, too, and actually do laugh out loud several times during most episodes - especially Season 4 during which Larry tries to find someone to have sex with since Cheryl has given him exactly one year to use her gift of one night of sex with someone else. The scenes I especially laughed at: The 5 Wood, The Car Pool Lane, Opening Night, and Wandering Bear. In Ferris Buehler I laughed aloud only a few times, so I guess it is not a knee slapper. I think I laugh easily.
[FairfieldLife] Lax Gun Laws Equals More Crime
Who knew that states that allow the easiest access to guns would have the highest rate of handgun deaths? Or murdered police officers? Or the most guns used in crimes in other states? Report Links State Gun Laws To Rates of Slayings, Trafficking By Cheryl W. Thompson Washington Post, December 5, 2008 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/04/AR200812040.html?nav=rss_politics http://tinyurl.com/662dj9 States with lax gun laws had higher rates of handgun killings, fatal shootings of police officers, and sales of weapons that were used in crimes in other states, according to a study underwritten by a group of more than 300 U.S. mayors. The report, which was obtained by The Washington Post, found that 10 states, including Virginia, supplied 57 percent of the guns that were recovered in crimes in other states in 2007. The 38-page report is based on an analysis of annual crime-gun data compiled by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The analysis tracks guns used in crimes back to the retailers that first sold them. Virginia ranked sixth last year as a supplier of out-of-state crime guns per 100,000 inhabitants. West Virginia topped the list, according to the study by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a bipartisan coalition headed by New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I) and Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino (D). Maryland ranked 28th. It's only a small group of states responsible for interstate gun trafficking, said John Feinblatt, criminal justice coordinator for New York City. Not only do their guns victimize people from out of state, they have higher gun-violence rates themselves. The District, which prohibited handgun ownership for 32 years until the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the ban unconstitutional this year, exported no known crime guns in 2007, the report says. There is one licensed dealer in the city but no gun stores. The report also shows that 975 crime guns were recovered in the District from other jurisdictions last year, a per capita amount that far exceeds any state's. The report examined how guns travel from the legal market to the black market and into criminals' hands, as well as the relationship between a state's gun laws and the probability that it will be a source of guns recovered in out-of-state crimes. Many law enforcement officials have long maintained that a pattern of illegal gun trafficking exists between states, the report says. This report confirms these accounts, suggesting there is an interstate illegal gun market driven, at least in part, by the relative ease of access to guns in particular states. The study, which will be released this month, found: · The 10 states with the highest crime-gun export rates had nearly 60 percent more gun homicides than the 10 states with the lowest rates. The high-export states also had nearly three times as many fatal shootings of police officers. · States requiring background checks for handgun sales at gun shows have an export rate nearly half the national average. None of the 10 highest export states, including Virginia, requires the checks, according to the report. Maryland does. · States requiring gun buyers to get a purchase permit have a lower export rate. Gun owners in Maryland and Virginia are not required to have purchase permits. · States requiring gun owners to report their weapons lost or stolen to law enforcement authorities export crime guns at less than one-third the rate of states that do not mandate reporting. Seven states have such a requirement; Maryland and Virginia do not. In Virginia, 2,261 guns were sold that were used in crimes in other states in 2007, while 1,100 crime guns were identified as having been brought into the state. Maryland exported 445 crime guns that year, and 1,943 were identified as having been imported. The study is the first of its kind and comes after the mayors and 30 law enforcement organizations successfully lobbied Congress last year to release portions of the ATF data. Public access to the reports had been restricted since the 2003 passage of the Tiahrt amendment, authored by Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.) and drafted with help from the National Rifle Association. Tiahrt said at the time that he was fulfilling the needs of my friends who are firearms dealers. President-elect Barack Obama called for the repeal of the law while he campaigned for office, and he co-sponsored a bill to change it. In an interview yesterday, Bloomberg said the Tiahrt amendment was a shameless effort to protect the most irresponsible gun dealers by blindfolding policymakers and the public about illegal gun trafficking. Gun rights advocates say the law protects gun dealers from persecution and does not prevent authorities from investigating gun crimes. Nearly all guns recovered in crimes are initially sold legally, the report says. Many that wind up on the black market were stolen from homes, stores or vehicles. Others were sold without background checks, at gun
Re: [FairfieldLife] OJ Gets 33 years
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:40 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He deserves every year of his sentence. He's just a stupid fool for falling into an apparent trap of trying to recover his old momentos. This could also mean that he has the karma for going into jail. And, IMO it is becoming more apparent that he may have killed his wife back in 1994. He is an example of a man living in bondage, in more ways than one. Well at least the people of California can go back to drinking Orange Juice now not having to be afraid anymore that the juice will kill them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lax Gun Laws Equals More Crime
John wrote: Who knew that states that allow the easiest access to guns would have the highest rate of handgun deaths? Or murdered police officers? Or the most guns used in crimes in other states? As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne. I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures. - Barak Obama http://tinyurl.com/5nsuu3
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. While I greatly appreciate the lower gas prices (I drive a Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 pickup with a thirsty 360V8 and 33 gallon tank), I'm still seriously pondering the purchase of a 3-door 5-speed Toyota Yaris. What I'd really like is an electric car capable of highway speeds for zipping to town and back, but I'm waiting for that technology to mature a bit more. I've considered a Yaris too. Though the 5 speed gives you the best mileage my experience with my first Subaru which was a 5 speed soured me on buying another manual transmission car again. If I was on a trip with someone, I was stuck driving all the way. For the first 20 years of driving, I had a manual transmission. Not any more. I gladly pay the extra hundred or two hundred dollars a year more in additional gas it costs me not have to shift all the time...especially in bumper to bumper traffic. If I lived in the land of bumper-to-bumper traffic, I wouldn't dream of driving a stick. When we wintered in Florida, back in the early '90s, I drove my Porsche 911 down there, and within six months I traded it in for a Mercedes 300E. But, here in rural Iowa, I love driving a stick. I ordered my Dodge with a 5-speed, and the ratty old Toyota pickup I drove before that had a 5-speed. As for Yahoo's mail issues, my earlier post in this thread has yet to show up in my gmail FFL feed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: India to curb Pakistani terrorism once and for all
India has no preventive detention laws; no laws to protect the identity of anti-terrorist witnesses; and no laws to allow domestic wiretapping without court order. In 2004, the new Congress Party government revoked India's version of the Patriot Act... In short, the Indian government has waged the war on terror in much the same way that liberals and many Democrats have been urging the U.S. to carry it out. The result is that more than 4,000 Indians have died in attacks since 2004 -- more than any other nation in the war on terror besides Iraq. Read more: 'Lessons from Mumbai' Posted by Paul Mirengoff Powerline, December 1, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/627ttu 'Our Friends in Bombay' Posted by John Hindraker Powerline, December 1, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/65pkey
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- On Thu, 12/4/08, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: From: mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh- Out-Loud To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:25 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) Ask your friends and family I will send out the upgraded list before Christmas. Be merry and bright Thanks Liz Animal House - aging -30 years old - the sight of helmeted ROTC leader Nedemier sp? being dragged with his feet attached to a horse galloping across the quad still brings a roar. Overboard Office Space Caddy Shack Dr. Strangelove Duck Soup It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World I would add: Brain Donors, and Ferris Buehler's Day Off (remember Mr. Rooney, the principal of the high school?). And lets not forget the Christopher Guest comedies: This Is Spinal Tap Waiting for Guffman A Mighty Wind To name a few. You can also just look up these and other comedies at: http://imdb.com But would you describe the above mentioned movies as laugh out loud movies? I wouldn't. I loved ALL the ones you mention but I can't say I slapped my knee at them...it wasn't that kind of humor. Here are two examples of works that are funny or quirky and, certainly, comedic and I love them to pieces...but I wouldn't say I ever laughed out loud at them: Curb your enthusiasm and SCTV I love Curb, too, and actually do laugh out loud several times during most episodes - especially Season 4 during which Larry tries to find someone to have sex with since Cheryl has given him exactly one year to use her gift of one night of sex with someone else. The scenes I especially laughed at: The 5 Wood, The Car Pool Lane, Opening Night, and Wandering Bear. In Ferris Buehler I laughed aloud only a few times, so I guess it is not a knee slapper. I think I laugh easily. I would say the Guest stuff is laugh out loud. The original poster wanted laugh out loud and I think to most of us that means a difference say between a Woody Allen comedy where he doesn't necessarily set up a laugh out loud gag but instead a long term gag you are amused at watching play out and a series of well played or delivered gags that you laugh at immediately. I don't laugh so easily and some comedies I'll find myself laughing out loud only one or two times during the film. Nobody has mentioned the Aptos school of comedy like Superbad where I thought things didn't really get laugh out loud funny until the two cops show up and those actors were probably improvising a lot of those scenes. I could have mentioned Idiocracy which some might feel gross or stupid even with the point being made. I also could have mentioned Zohan which was for once an Adam Sandler film that was funny. Sometimes he just misses the mark. I like the two stoner comedies because many of us have been there years ago and to watch those play out for many people would be laugh out loud funny.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm even more confused. What is your point? My point is that you are a sorry little fellow. Get a checking, and then a life !
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCain Campaign Spent $110,000 on Palins Stylists
boo wrote: ...look at all the horny middle aged white guys like shemp and willy that went gaga over her. Barack Obama is more than six weeks away from assuming the presidency, and the next Iowa caucuses are more than three years away, but a national poll out Friday suggests that former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin top the list of potential 2012 Republican presidential hopefuls. Read more: 'Huckabee, Palin top list of 2012 GOP contenders' By Paul Steinhauser CNN Politics, December 5, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5f743l
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
Alex Stanley wrote:- As for Yahoo's mail issues, my earlier post in this thread has yet to show up in my gmail FFL feed. Sounds like there is some problem with Gmail then. I have Yahoo POP3 email since it provides the email for ATT. If they screw up then I would figure it'll screw up on everyone else. I changed a lot of my group subscriptions to my Yahoo (sbcglobal) addresses because I would get bounces using other accounts.
[FairfieldLife] 'Boeing Microsoft Merge/To Build Cars?'
Not a bad idea?
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Boeing Microsoft Merge/To Build Cars?
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a bad idea? If cars were built like computers 1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day. 2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to buy a new car. 3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull over to the side of the road, close all of the windows, shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could continue. For some reason, you would simply accept this. 4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to reinstall the engine. 5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive -- but would run on only five percent of the roads. 6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all be replaced by a single General Protection Fault warning light. 7. The airbag system would ask Are you sure? before deploying. 8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna. 9. Every time GM introduced a new car, car buyers would have to learn to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car. 10. You'd have to press the Start button to turn the engine off.
[FairfieldLife] Seth: the fetus and the soul
Seth session 557... The atoms that compose the fetus have their own kind of consciousness. The volatile awareness consciousnesses that exist independently of matter, form matter according to their ability and degree. The fetus, therefore, has its own consciousness, the simple component consciousness made up of the atoms that compose it. This exists before any reincarnating personality enters it. The consciousness of matter is present in any matter — a fetus, a rock, a blade of grass, a nail. The reincarnating personality enters the new fetus according to its own inclinations, desires, and characteristics, with some built in safeguards. However there is no rule, then, saying that the reincarnating personality must take over the new form prepared for it either at the point of conception, in the very earliest months of the fetus's growth, or even at the point of birth. The process is gradual, individual and determined by experience in other lives. It is particularly dependent upon emotional characteristics—not necessarily of the last incarnated self, but the emotional tensions present as a result of a group of past existences. Various methods of entry are adopted. If there is a strong relationship between the parents and the child to be, then the personality may enter at the point of conception if he is extremely anxious to rejoin them. Even here, however, large portions of self awareness continue to operate in the between life dimension. In the beginning, the womb state under these conditions is a dreamlike one, with the personality still focused mainly in the between life existence. Gradually the situation reverses, until it becomes more difficult to retain clear concentration in the between life situation. In these circumstances, when the personality attaches itself at conception, there is almost without exception strong past life connections between parents and child, or there is an unceasing and almost obsessional desire to return to the earthly situation—either for a specific purpose, or because the reincarnating personality is presently obsessed with earthly existence. This is not necessarily detrimental. The personality can simply realize that it takes to physical experience well, is presently earth oriented, and finds earthly atmosphere a rich dimension for the growth of its own abilities. Some personalities are drawn to enter at conception as a result of seemingly less worthy motives—greed, for example, or an obsessional desire that is partially composed of unresolved problems. Other personalities who never completely take to earthly existence may hold off full entry for some time, and even then always remain at a certain distance from the body. At the other end of the scale, before death the same applies, where some individuals remove their focus from physical life, leaving the body consciousness alone. Others stay with the body until the last moment. In the early days of infancy, there is not a steady focus of the personality in the body in any case. Now: In all cases the decisions have been made ahead of time, as I told you. The reincarnating personality is aware, therefore, when the conception for which it has been waiting takes place. And while it may or may not choose to enter at that point, it is drawn irresistibly to that time and point in space and flesh. On occasion, long before conception takes place, the personality who will end up as the future child will visit that environment of both parents to be, drawn again. This is quite natural. Between lives an individual may see flashes of the future existence, not necessarily of particular events, but experience the essence of the new relationship and in expectation remind himself of the challenge he has set. In these terms, the ghosts of the future are as real in your homes as the ghosts of the past.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] McCartney-McManus
What do you get when you combine two of the greatest singer- songwriters in modern history and put them together in a studio? You get a songwriting team like that of Paul McCartney and Declan McManus (Elvis Costello). They've collaborated on numerous occasions to produce great songs in both of their catalogues. One of those collaborations was the sessions that brought us both McCartney's Flowers in the Dirt, which includes several of their songwriting efforts, and Elvis' Spike, Mighty Like a Rose, Off the Ground and All This Useless Beauty (not to mention numerous unreleased songs). Most notable is the hit off of Flowers in the Dirt, My Brave Face. The acoustic demos of these sessions have just been placed on www.dimeadozen.org and are not to be missed. The synergy of these two great songwriters in one studio is very evident in these demos. They just play off one another. Check out the lossless version of My Brave Face here. (Please note ALL dimeadozen boots are intended ONLY for lossless sharing. They should not be degraded to MP3's or other lossy formats, except for personal use.) For me, listening to these songs is like listening to the Beatles Anthology demos. Albeit, in this case, both songwriters are in their songwriting maturity. Torrent: 225614 Title: Paul McCartney and Elvis Costello acoustic demos Size: 148.69 MB Category: Acoustic Uploaded by: lilpanda Info hash: e266c85f47c61f9bbf27b2f87a6a20e561679186 Description --- Was listening to this today and thought 'man, this needs to be on the dime tracker.' It wasn't, but now it is! Ya gotta have this! Essential shit! One of the last metal boots I ever bought. I remember my boot dealer telling me about it and I told him he was crazy, the songs didn't exist. Thank God I trusted him. Paul McCartney and Ellvis Costello Acoustic demos Libertated Boot: The McCartney MacManus Collaboration Vigotone VT 174 1. The Lovers That never Were 2. Twenty Five Fingers 3. Tommy's Coming Home 4. So Like Candy 5. You Want her Too 6. Playboy To a Man 7. Don't be Careless Love 8. My Brave Face (fades) ---
[FairfieldLife] Nepalese Buddha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC4cO5rYimwNR=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nepalese Buddha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEvOmj9IvINR=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Recovery Support Groups Starting in January
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John M. Knapp, LMSW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Here's a really nice message from Susan and I think she does a great job of introducing herself to the internet - her story doesn't seem to have any resemblance to most of the messages here by Barry, Vaj, and some of the other TMO-bashers. I think it's wonderful that Susan is happy with her TM and TMO experience. Others have different experiences. I think their views and experiences are valid as well. As I have not posted anything in this thread suggesting that TM is either good or bad, I'm wondering what purpose you see to posting this note in this thread? Like so many of your posts, it feels cryptic to me. I am left scratching my head. Since Willytex's post wasn't addressed to John, but rather was in response to a post of OffWorld that was commenting on an earlier post of Willytex's quoting Geoff Coulson, I'm wondering if John's assumption that it was addressed to him is an example of the narcissism he's told us he still struggles with.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Affidavit: Michael Grove, Mark Frost and Michael Herkel v . Maharishi Mahesh
On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:44 AM, mainstream20016 wrote: Your story that some still- active Purusha were former nefarious CIA agents - who earned your friendship, Nabby, after they disavowed the CIA in favor of a lifetime of devotion to MMY's Knowledge, is fascinating. New questions arise: was MMY naive to allow the foxes to remain in the henhouse ? ; did the TMO collaborate with the Agency ? ; were your friends delusional about their own supposed CIA affiliation ? snip It's interesting how the posts on the Michael Grove, Mark Frost and Michael Herkel vs. Maharishi Mahesh affidavit so obviously skirt around the central and (to me) most obvious issue which is that none of the people mentioned as suspected CIA agents actually were CIA agents! Well how could that be? An enlightened being that's not omniscient or least has some basic dime-store psychic skills? Or how about an enlightened master, an alleged rishi (the greatest rishi in all yugas, according Bevanji), who is so paranoid he imagines people to be something radically different than what they are? What's up with THAT? Shouldn't he at least be able to see things as they really are, nominally? And if not, what does that say about the claim that he's a master or a yogi or, for that matter, a rishi? A seer who can't see? I mean really: WTF? What a phony! So the point isn't so much about 'did the CIA infiltrate the TM Org' but instead, why is this supposedly enlightened master imagining these non-CIA people are CIA infiltrators? Can you say paranoid delusion? I can. Please, repeat after me. You first Nabby... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. A Fish Called Wanda 1998. Written by and starring John Cleese. Also starring Michael Palin, like Cleese of Monte Python fame, and Kevin Kline. Oldies but goodies: Little Murders 1971 black comedy written by Jules Pfeiffer, starring Donald Sutherland, Elliott Gould, and Alan Arkin. I haven't seen this since it first came out, so it may be dated, and as I recall it has a few slow spots. But it's repeatedly laugh- out-loud funny. Arkin has a monologue at one point that literally--and I do mean literally-- made me pee my pants. The End Another black comedy, 1978, directed by and starring Burt Reynolds, with Dom DeLuise and a bunch of other terrific actors. Also has some slow stretches, but the good ones make up for it. The best bit for my money is a scene in which Reynolds, as a terminally ill lapsed Catholic, makes his confession to neophyte priest Robby Benson. Some Like It Hot 1959 classic, with Marilyn Monroe, Tony Curtis, and Jack Lemmon.
[FairfieldLife] Space Telescope Advent Calendar
Hubble Space Telescope Advent Calendar 2008 As we head into the traditional western Holiday Season, I'd like to present this Hubble Space Telescope imagery Advent Calendar. Every day, for the next 25 days, a new photo will be revealed here from the amazing Hubble Space Telescope. As I take this chance to share these images of our amazing Universe with you, I wish for a Happy Holiday to all those who will celebrate, and for Peace on Earth to everyone. - Alan (25 photos total - eventually) http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/hubble_space_telescope_advent .html http://tinyurl.com/6qynxf Bookmark this and check back every day for new photos. The ones posted so far are just incredibly spectacular. (Alan is Alan Taylor, the guy who puts together the Boston Globe's remarkable Web site photo blog.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nepalese Buddha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A talk of His brother: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt5gjGzRAMYNR=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Crash: Update on guy who predicted this back in 2006
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nelson wrote: Some conspiracy theories are just that but most are current event reports- check into it. Check into Peter Schiff, George Soros and Warren Buffett? John and Jason said that Schiff, Soros and Buffett predicted the current crisis, and Barry said it was all a conspiracy, so how are we going to 'check' out the ones who predicted the current financial crises? This doesn't even make any sense - I'm not following the logic. Obama has already named most of his picks for government positions, and so far, most of them are the same people who engineered the crisis? Now wait just one minute. This is outrageous! + People should be outraged and, find out why. It is my observation that wars, depressions,dictators being installed or removed is coordinated behind the scenes unobserved. Did you read Charley Wilson's War? It would indicate that most of the people in Washington don't know what goes on there including most of the alphabet groups. Politics is Bread and Circus
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCartney-McManus
I've heard of the McCarthy-Bergen collaboration but never this McCartney-McManus one. Which one is the ventriloquist? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you get when you combine two of the greatest singer- songwriters in modern history and put them together in a studio? You get a songwriting team like that of Paul McCartney and Declan McManus (Elvis Costello). They've collaborated on numerous occasions to produce great songs in both of their catalogues. One of those collaborations was the sessions that brought us both McCartney's Flowers in the Dirt, which includes several of their songwriting efforts, and Elvis' Spike, Mighty Like a Rose, Off the Ground and All This Useless Beauty (not to mention numerous unreleased songs). Most notable is the hit off of Flowers in the Dirt, My Brave Face. The acoustic demos of these sessions have just been placed on www.dimeadozen.org and are not to be missed. The synergy of these two great songwriters in one studio is very evident in these demos. They just play off one another. Check out the lossless version of My Brave Face here. (Please note ALL dimeadozen boots are intended ONLY for lossless sharing. They should not be degraded to MP3's or other lossy formats, except for personal use.) For me, listening to these songs is like listening to the Beatles Anthology demos. Albeit, in this case, both songwriters are in their songwriting maturity. Torrent: 225614 Title: Paul McCartney and Elvis Costello acoustic demos Size: 148.69 MB Category: Acoustic Uploaded by: lilpanda Info hash: e266c85f47c61f9bbf27b2f87a6a20e561679186 Description --- Was listening to this today and thought 'man, this needs to be on the dime tracker.' It wasn't, but now it is! Ya gotta have this! Essential shit! One of the last metal boots I ever bought. I remember my boot dealer telling me about it and I told him he was crazy, the songs didn't exist. Thank God I trusted him. Paul McCartney and Ellvis Costello Acoustic demos Libertated Boot: The McCartney MacManus Collaboration Vigotone VT 174 1. The Lovers That never Were 2. Twenty Five Fingers 3. Tommy's Coming Home 4. So Like Candy 5. You Want her Too 6. Playboy To a Man 7. Don't be Careless Love 8. My Brave Face (fades) ---
[FairfieldLife] Keep guns away from pandas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who knew that states that allow the easiest access to guns would have the highest rate of handgun deaths? Or murdered police officers? Or the most guns used in crimes in other states? Report Links State Gun Laws To Rates of Slayings, Trafficking By Cheryl W. Thompson Washington Post, December 5, 2008 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/04/AR200812\ 040.html?nav=rss_politics http://tinyurl.com/662dj9 States with lax gun laws had higher rates of handgun killings, fatal shootings of police officers, and sales of weapons that were used in crimes in other states, according to a study underwritten by a group of more than 300 U.S. mayors. The report, which was obtained by The Washington Post, found that 10 states, including Virginia, supplied 57 percent of the guns that were recovered in crimes in other states in 2007. The 38-page report is based on an analysis of annual crime-gun data compiled by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The analysis tracks guns used in crimes back to the retailers that first sold them. Virginia ranked sixth last year as a supplier of out-of-state crime guns per 100,000 inhabitants. West Virginia topped the list, according to the study by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a bipartisan coalition headed by New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I) and Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino (D). Maryland ranked 28th. It's only a small group of states responsible for interstate gun trafficking, said John Feinblatt, criminal justice coordinator for New York City. Not only do their guns victimize people from out of state, they have higher gun-violence rates themselves. The District, which prohibited handgun ownership for 32 years until the U.S. Supreme Court ruled the ban unconstitutional this year, exported no known crime guns in 2007, the report says. There is one licensed dealer in the city but no gun stores. The report also shows that 975 crime guns were recovered in the District from other jurisdictions last year, a per capita amount that far exceeds any state's. The report examined how guns travel from the legal market to the black market and into criminals' hands, as well as the relationship between a state's gun laws and the probability that it will be a source of guns recovered in out-of-state crimes. Many law enforcement officials have long maintained that a pattern of illegal gun trafficking exists between states, the report says. This report confirms these accounts, suggesting there is an interstate illegal gun market driven, at least in part, by the relative ease of access to guns in particular states. The study, which will be released this month, found: · The 10 states with the highest crime-gun export rates had nearly 60 percent more gun homicides than the 10 states with the lowest rates. The high-export states also had nearly three times as many fatal shootings of police officers. · States requiring background checks for handgun sales at gun shows have an export rate nearly half the national average. None of the 10 highest export states, including Virginia, requires the checks, according to the report. Maryland does. · States requiring gun buyers to get a purchase permit have a lower export rate. Gun owners in Maryland and Virginia are not required to have purchase permits. · States requiring gun owners to report their weapons lost or stolen to law enforcement authorities export crime guns at less than one-third the rate of states that do not mandate reporting. Seven states have such a requirement; Maryland and Virginia do not. In Virginia, 2,261 guns were sold that were used in crimes in other states in 2007, while 1,100 crime guns were identified as having been brought into the state. Maryland exported 445 crime guns that year, and 1,943 were identified as having been imported. The study is the first of its kind and comes after the mayors and 30 law enforcement organizations successfully lobbied Congress last year to release portions of the ATF data. Public access to the reports had been restricted since the 2003 passage of the Tiahrt amendment, authored by Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.) and drafted with help from the National Rifle Association. Tiahrt said at the time that he was fulfilling the needs of my friends who are firearms dealers. President-elect Barack Obama called for the repeal of the law while he campaigned for office, and he co-sponsored a bill to change it. In an interview yesterday, Bloomberg said the Tiahrt amendment was a shameless effort to protect the most irresponsible gun dealers by blindfolding policymakers and the public about illegal gun trafficking. Gun rights advocates say the law protects gun dealers from persecution and does not prevent authorities from investigating gun crimes. Nearly all guns recovered in crimes are initially sold
[FairfieldLife] Re: Affidavit: Michael Grove, Mark Frost and Michael Herkel v . Maharishi Mahesh
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:44 AM, mainstream20016 wrote: Your story that some still- active Purusha were former nefarious CIA agents - who earned your friendship, Nabby, after they disavowed the CIA in favor of a lifetime of devotion to MMY's Knowledge, is fascinating. I will reply to the best of my knowledge. New questions arise: was MMY naive to allow the foxes to remain in the henhouse ? No. His heart includes everyone. How could He exclude agents ? From an esoteric view it would also not be possible to do so. His determination to bring in The Age of Enlightenment meant sacrifices, compromises. I can think of no other person today who had to tolerate more than Maharishi. His patience prooved to be impeccable ! He even tolerated you and me ! :-) ; did the TMO collaborate with the Agency ? ; were your friends delusional about their own supposed CIA affiliation ? The TMO tried everything to eliminate the agents, but Maharishi did not, for esoteric reasons, want to expose them though He certainly could if He wanted to. In Boppard, 1982 He even said It is not possible Not possible according to cosmic law. The TMO did not collaborate neither with the CIA or other numerous agencies around the world who where determined to undermine Maharishis plans for the reconstruction of this planet. Regarding your second question; these fellows went into service purely from a love of their country. This is not a bad thing at all. Upon entering the Movement they got a headacke as they realized that the TMO only wanted good everywhere whereas their employers suspected otherwise. Little by little Maharishi turned them around, so to speak. After many years of service to their countries Maharishi would, quietly, lovingly, suggest that they made a choice. And they did. The short answer to your question is this; Their affiliation with their agencies where very dedicated, professional and serious. Their dedication to Maharishi's plans today is likewise.
[FairfieldLife] Howlin' Wolf - Smokestack Lightnin'
Ah-oh, smokestack lightnin, Shinin, just like gold, Why don't ya hear me cryin? A-whoo-hooo, , Whooo. Whoa-oh, tell me, baby, What's the, matter with you? Why don't ya hear me cryin? Whoo-hooo, whoo-hooo, Whooo. Whoa-oh, tell me, baby, Where did ya, stay last night? A-why don't ya hear me cryin? Whoo-hooo, whoo-hooo, Whooo. Whoa-oh, stop your train, Let her, go for a ride. Why don't ya hear me cryin? Whoo-hooo, whoo-hooo, Whooo. Whoa-oh, fare ya well. Never see, a you no more. A-why don't ya hear me cryin? Oooo, whoo-hooo, Whooo. Whoa-oh, who been here baby since, I-I been gone, a little, bity boy? Girl, be on. A-whoo-hooo, whoo-hooo, Whooo.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: McCartney-McManus
On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:56 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: I've heard of the McCarthy-Bergen collaboration but never this McCartney-McManus one. Which one is the ventriloquist? Sadly, Elvis. Paul's hit single My Brave Face, despite the dual writing credit, is pure Elvis C. admiring Lennon-McCartney with some Paul flourishes thrown in. From E's accounts of Paul's invite to the session, it's clear that E. came to the sessions with a bundle of studio ready songs in rough form. And the Beatlesque harmonies were also pushed by E. Really, it was E. who revitalized Mac's dead career!: I just got a call, and then we went to a meeting to talk about it. I thought it best to come along prepared, so I brought along these half- finished things, to work on as sort of an exercise, to get to know the technique of each other's work. He's very practical about songwriting, very formal, funnily enough. People sometimes say he seems to dash them off, but that's not really true. If you don't like what he's singing about, if you think the sentiments are not tough enough or something, then that's a personal thing. I wouldn't say this holds true for every song he's ever written but when we sat down together he wouldn't have any sloppy bits in there. That was interesting. The ironic part is, if it sounds like he wrote it, I probably did and vice versa. He wanted to do all the ones with lots of words and all on one note, and I'm the one trying to work in the 'Please Please Me' harmony all over the place. It was really fun. Oh yeah, occasionally, I'd go Oh, God, it's him. Ooh, it's him. But that was definitely a momentary thing. We used to run into each other quite a lot in the studio in London: When he was doing, like, TUG OF WAR, PIPES OF PEACE, I was doing IbMePdErRoIoAmL and a couple of other records. He's a very personable guy-- he'd always say hello, play Space Invaders, have a cup of coffee. But I wouldn't have said, Oh, have you met my good friend, Paul McCartney? So as far as I was concerned, when he called me about working together, it was just fairly out of the blue. He's probably one of the most famous people in the world, and I'm exactly the right age to have been a fan. Then there's a certain degree of professional pride, so you're trying to put you point over and justify being asked. Not because he's such a flawless songwriter, but because I like his stuff and I want him to write the best songs-- particularly if I'm involved in writing them! But it didn't get in the way that much. Obviously he knows I don't write Barry Manilow songs, or there'd be no point. I've got nothing to gain in knowing whether he has a very scanty or comprehensive knowledge. What's important is what we're doing now. The main thing is we're trying to write new songs. We're not trying to write old songs again. Of several things you have to consider, one is that he's been Paul McCartney longer than he was a Beatle. And for that matter, I've been a solo artist longer than the Beatles existed. By four years. So you know, I'm a professional. I don't have as many hit records to my name, but I have as many credentials in terms of writing songs. If he was going to pick anybody to write with, then why not me? But it's not always 50-50. You don't have any secretary sitting in the corner taking notes, going, 'Then Mr. McCartney suggested a B-flat minor', you know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Robin 3: The First Three Years of Enlightenment
Thanks for the clarification. I see it better now. I was glad you commented on Richard's post, otherwise I would have missed it. And I felt also, that Richard had made some pretty good comments. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh. Well, nothing then. It just struck me that my comment on Richard's post might read as some sort of implied critique of you, and if so, I wanted to square things with you. But apparently not, so that's fine, too. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I really don't know what you are talking about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Steve, my reply to Mr. Williams was in regards to how well I felt he'd expressed his point of view, rather than any endorsement of the comments in relation to you. His POV is one that I appreciate and resonate with in some measure but don't feel completely congruent with anymore. Anyway, I just really dug how he put it -- a nice, aphoristic and classically pitched summary of the proto-hindu vedantic bhuddism that I believe he holds as correct. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Williams.) But I didn't want you to feel that I was either endorsing any critique of yo by digging how he said what he said. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I missed this little gem. Comments below --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Cogent and well said, Mr. Williams; you must have been quite an initiator in your day. Really well said. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Steve wrote: That can throw you off unless you can get past it... All you have to do, Steve, is realize that you're not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. Ok Knowing that, you can stop your striving, which like craving, is very difficult to manage. I promise., I gave up on the striving part. You know, be here now sort of thing If you understand that everything that happens to you is for a reason, you also know that there's no chance events. Ok Think of yourself as on fire, like burning up your karma. The more karma you burn up now the less karma to have to burn up in the future. Now, this I can relate to a little. For me it is not being on fire. It is more a pressure, (not unpleasant) that my kundalini, or some other energy exerts on me, usually in the area of my palate area. (strange, but true) Now all you have to do is stop accumulating any new karma. You can do that by giving up any ownership in your personal actions. I'm trying, but the prabda made me do it. So, you understand all the above, then just spend a few minutes a couple of times each day avoiding the danger that lies ahead. It sounds like you are recommending meditation. Good advice. Maybe I'll try to work that into my routine. Thanks for the comments
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? If the bailout/economic meltdown results in lost jobs and a lowering of consumers' economic status (i.e., less money available for gasoline), then oil price falls because of lessening demand. The problem with that scenario is that people haven't cut back driving that much! No, I agree with the folks who are saying there is a concerted effort to drive down the prices to bankrupt the Middle East oil exporters. Some of the skyscrapers that were going to be built in Saudi Arabia have already been canceled due to the drop in prices. Plus, OPEC keeps meeting to agree to cut output to drive up prices. + Only an opinion but, The low fuel prices look artificial and, can hold out much longer than the alternate fuels which are newer companies. In Fairfield, there was a branch of a company that made tanks for the ethanol industry which has closed letting the help go. I wonder if, after the competition has collapsed, the fuel price will reach even higher levels. hope not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) I may be a bad person to comment on this question, because I have high standards in movies. Although I laugh easily in real life, I don't necessarily LOL at reel life. It takes a real gem of a film to get me to do that. So, that said, there are only four movies I've seen this year that made me Laugh Out Loud. The first is IMO the Best Film Of The Year, In Bruges. The second is Zack And Miri Make A Porno. I recommend them with some hesitation for this list, because if you are offended by strong language and the occasional off-color gag or scene of violence, you may not even enjoy them, much less LOL at them. The third is one I missed entirely when it came out in theaters, Shane Black's Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. If you like snappy dialog and Theater Of The Absurd, films really just don't come any snappier or more absurd than this one. Not quite in the same quality category but still LOL-worthy was the fourth, Flesh Gordon Meets The Cosmic Cheerleaders, for what should be obvious reasons. Searching back into the past, L.A. Story made me LOL, and does again every time I see it. Still on a Steve Martin kick, All Of Me, Roxanne, and Dirty Rotten Scoundrels all made me laugh out loud, espec- ially the last one. The scenes with Steve Martin as Ruprecht are definitely to LOL for. Young Frankenstein is as LOL-funny today as it was when it first came out; just the *memory* of the monster in a tux singing Puttin' on the Ritz makes me LOL. I fully expect to LOL at My Name Is Bruce, which I have a review copy of but haven't gotten around to watching yet. Just the concept is LOL-funny.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Keep guns away from pandas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Who knew that states that allow the easiest access to guns would have the highest rate of handgun deaths? Or murdered police officers? Or the most guns used in crimes in other states? Report Links State Gun Laws To Rates of Slayings, Trafficking By Cheryl W. Thompson Washington Post, December 5, 2008 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/04/AR200812\ 040.html?nav=rss_politics snip, + Generally, these reports reflect the agenda of the people funding it. Expert witnesses, impartial research, third party endorsements, are bought and sold on a regular basis. ex. FDA, serious BS.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Request for names of movies that have made you Laugh-Out-Loud
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend. Post your recommendations and I'll forward them to her and post her final collection. Hi All It is time to update the list of Laugh-Out-Loud movies. I asking for the names of movies that have made you laugh out loud (not just crack a grin) Ask your friends and family I will send out the upgraded list before Christmas. Be merry and bright Thanks Liz One of my favorites is Crazy People! JoAnn
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
Nelson wrote: + Only an opinion but, The low fuel prices look artificial and, can hold out much longer than the alternate fuels which are newer companies. In Fairfield, there was a branch of a company that made tanks for the ethanol industry which has closed letting the help go. I wonder if, after the competition has collapsed, the fuel price will reach even higher levels. hope not. Gas driven cars are filthy. If you saw Who Killed the Electric Car you probably remember the interview with the car repair guy who said how dirty working on gas cars are and how clean what minimum maintenance an electric is. For many people reliable and functional mass transit would be great. There are many times I would use it too but California is a bit screwed up compared to other places I've lived. You can get around Seattle fairly fast and easily on the bus system. But here the streets are laid out crazy probably before the concept of city planning existed or relics of when California was part of Mexico. Politics and graft complete the scenario where only certain areas have convenient mass transit. And in most cases light rail as opposed to expensive projects like BART have worked out well. Probably the best solution is for society to slow down and live simply. This rush to nowhere is killing us.
[FairfieldLife] Looking for Participants for Psychology Study on What Makes/Doesn't Make Someone Religious
2008-12-05
Thread
Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
I'm forwarding this message I received, seems quite interesting to me, I think it may be to smart folk like you. ARE YOU INTERESTED IN WHAT MAKES SOME PEOPLE RELIGIOUS? AND EQUALLY WHAT MAKES OTHERS NOT? If so, I could really use your help. I am looking for religious and non-religious individuals. Especially those with scientific or academic qualifications/background to help me with my Undergraduate Psychology Theses from the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow, UK. WHAT'S REQUIRED: TO FILL IN A SIMPLE ONLINE SELF-REPORT QUESTIONNAIRE THAT TAKES 10 MINUTES. The data is completely anonymous and confidential Purpose: Data will be used for a study looking at relationship between creativity, science and religion. How do you get involved: Visit: http://jijr.com/b9A Or, ADDRESS: Psychology department, University of Strathclyde. Graham Hill building. 40 George Street. Glasgow. G1 1QE The Psychology Department Research Ethics Committee of the University of Strathclyde has reviewed and approved this research study. Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Lol, where's your redneck buddy Chuck Norris now Shemp? He was ready to shoot people a couple of months ago, when him and Willytex's gas guzzling, child poisoning, life hating, monstor trucks, needed gas at $4 a gallon. Your buddies were complaining like the spoilt brats they are, saying the high prices were all the dirty liberals fault, and Drill NOW and POISON the EARTH so that I can drive half a mile to buy my cheap shit wonderloaf bread. ! Chuck Norris not blaming the low oil prices on the Democrats now is he ? ! Shemp. A couple of months ago you were blaming high prices on liberals. I guess now you will have to blame them for the low prices too. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] 'Round eyes not too much smartz'
Chinese property hunters to raid US
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Chinese bargain hunters are preparing to descend on American cities such as Los
Angeles and San Francisco, where homeowners have suffered some of the steepest
price falls in the US.
SouFun, the biggest real estate website in China, is organising a trip next
month to look at properties in California and possibly Nevada. Liu Jian, the
company’s chief operating officer, said about 300 people had expressed interest
in the idea in the three days since it was advertised, though the company would
take only a small group on the first trip.
“Given the problems in the Chinese market now, many people have been asking us
about taking a look at overseas markets, especially the US,” he said.
The trip would focus on California, particularly San Francisco and Los Angeles,
where big Chinese populations might make his clients more comfortable, but
might also include Nevada.
Restrictions on taking money out of China would be an obstacle, he added, but
some potential investors had an overseas connection such as a foreign passport
that would make it easier.
Property professionals say there is considerable interest among wealthy
Chinese, who often hold a high proportion of assets in property, in investing
abroad.
“The US market absolutely terrifies me,” said one Shanghai-based real estate
executive. “However, there are plenty of people here who think this a great
time for bottom-fishing.”
There is opposition in China to SouFun’s plan. “Unless these people need a
house in the US to live in, this is senseless,” said Yi Xianrong, a real estate
expert at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. “A few years ago there was a
lot of talk about investing in German real estate but most of the people who
did so lost a lot of money.”
SouFun, owned by Australia’s Telstra, provides information on property markets
in more than 100 cities and has more than 40m registered users.
By Geoff Dyer in Beijing
Published: December 5 2008
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oil is at...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: ...$41.79 a barrel as of this posting: http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/energyprices.html This is the upside of the whole bailout/economic meltdown phenomenon. We might as well put our attention on something positive. Why do you think the lowering gas price has anything to do with the bailout? If the bailout/economic meltdown results in lost jobs and a lowering of consumers' economic status (i.e., less money available for gasoline), then oil price falls because of lessening demand. Incorrect. Again ! Oil prices did not fall. They rose beyond rational comprehension. Now ,that irrational rise has been normalised. I guess you won't be shouting for drilling in Alaska and offshore now that the cost of such adventures FAR outweighs any possible profit or demand. The point is, there never was too little oil as you Neocons were shouting in your ignorant knee-jerk reactions. There were two effects: China was hoarding unprecedented amounts of oil in the months running up to the Olympics, and rogue trading was exacerbating the price rise. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Round eyes not too much smartz'
Tell the Chinese to call me. I've got a condo for sale for them for
2,063,849.9737 yen.
OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chinese property hunters to raid US
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Chinese bargain hunters are preparing to descend on American cities
such as Los Angeles and San Francisco, where homeowners have suffered
some of the steepest price falls in the US.
SouFun, the biggest real estate website in China, is organising a trip
next month to look at properties in California and possibly Nevada. Liu
Jian, the company's chief operating officer, said about 300 people
had expressed interest in the idea in the three days since it was
advertised, though the company would take only a small group on the
first trip.
Given the problems in the Chinese market now, many people have
been asking us about taking a look at overseas markets, especially the
US, he said.
The trip would focus on California, particularly San Francisco and Los
Angeles, where big Chinese populations might make his clients more
comfortable, but might also include Nevada.
Restrictions on taking money out of China would be an obstacle, he
added, but some potential investors had an overseas connection such as a
foreign passport that would make it easier.
Property professionals say there is considerable interest among
wealthy Chinese, who often hold a high proportion of assets in property,
in investing abroad.
The US market absolutely terrifies me, said one
Shanghai-based real estate executive. However, there are plenty of
people here who think this a great time for bottom-fishing.
There is opposition in China to SouFun's plan. Unless these
people need a house in the US to live in, this is senseless, said
Yi Xianrong, a real estate expert at the Chinese Academy of Social
Sciences. A few years ago there was a lot of talk about investing
in German real estate but most of the people who did so lost a lot of
money.
SouFun, owned by Australia's Telstra, provides information on
property markets in more than 100 cities and has more than 40m
registered users.
By Geoff Dyer in Beijing
Published: December 5 2008
[FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Participants for Psychology Study on What Makes/Doesn't Make Someone Religious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm forwarding this message I received, seems quite interesting to me, I think it may be to smart folk like you. ARE YOU INTERESTED IN WHAT MAKES SOME PEOPLE RELIGIOUS? AND EQUALLY WHAT MAKES OTHERS NOT? The answer to your inquiry: Herd mentality and moksha from it. OffWorld
