[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!
(snip) I'm actually rather a fan of many of Osho's discourses that I've read; he's one of the most articulate teachers I've encountered. (He didn't like Maharishi much, but then Maharishi didn't like him much either. Pretty much par for the course among competing gurus.) (snip) I remember, I was on my way to visit his ashram, one time, back in the 1980's, but never made it there...(so, here's the intuitive hearsay...) This is my take on Maharishi and Osho: 'Mirror Opposites of Each Other'... Maharishi claimed that Rajneesh, became enlightened, spontaneously, and didn't come from a tradition, so he didn't have a structure program to help other's get to the state of enlightenment... Also, the gross, display of idolatry, with Rajneesh, with those expensive English cars...and the weird lady that took over the ashram, and the murderous plot to poison some of the people in the adjacent town in the State of Oregon...Rajneesh, was eventually drummed out of the United States, and died, feeling that he was poisoned by the C.I.A. Rajneesh was into all kinds of 'sexual freedom', which included orgies, with him watching, to see if everything was going well Srange, for a Guru to be so blantantly voyeuristic... Anyway, we can see what happened with his movement, and the TM movement...although, it is what it is, at least, compared to Oshos stuff, it seems stableand more on track, to create world peace and deep understanding of consciousness, for the masses...and even though we all think that Deepak is kind of strange, at least he is also expanded the knowledge for the sleeping masses... r.g.
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[FairfieldLife] Want to Achieve anything you want!
Dear All, I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to find out more. Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net. Let me explain... One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what you want in life. This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING. Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in the way, you know? All that is about to change! Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a movie I'm NOT kidding. The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do. Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want: http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one and will share with you once it's done. Cheers! Meera
[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin
(snip) One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that deserves our attention (snip) Turk(Barry) is an excellent movie reviewer, and also, gives a sense of what is like in Europe... He also, is excellent at pushing people's buttons, to have them, perhaps, think or feel more deeply, on why they might feel so challenged by his comments... He is certainly a dedicated writer, of this rag-tag group, and I wouldn't underestimate his ability, to come up with some pretty wild spins, and observations of everyday occurrences... He is also, one of the only people in the world, who has actually witnessed someone levitating! Turqs bag of tricks is almost unlimited! And his subtle removal of masks... As M.J. would exclaim, 'Who's Bad?!' r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine
Here's some of the metals in it: Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur) Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust) Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium) Vanga bhasma (tin) Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken... So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as hatters they're really quite accurate. The term as mad as a hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad. It explains a lot.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide. See link http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world Let me see if I've got this straight: * Believing that myths and fairy tales from the past define reality and that if science doesn't recognize that reality then science is wrong is knowledge. * Believing that the position of a bunch of planets (leaving several out) defines how a person's life is going to turn out is knowledge. * Believing that the teacher who promised enlightenment in 5-8 years and never was able to produce a single case of enlighten- ment in 40 years was always right and was a great saint is knowledge. * Believing that homosexuality is perverse and low-vibe but being celibate and terrified of women is high-vibe is knowledge. * Believing that someone who is old enough to be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is acting like a teenybopper while acting like a pre-adolescent whose whole idea of sex is nothing but idealized fantasy oneself is knowledge. Whereas: * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. Yeah, right. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA lists MAPI US lead contaminated products
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Despite the fact that MAPI claims they test for metals, at least two products have lead in them according to the JAMA article Lead, Mercury, and Arsenic in US- and Indian-Manufactured Ayurvedic Medicines Sold via the Internet. Who knows how many other MAPI products are similarly tainted? And these aren't even the product with heavy metals listed as ingredients! The two products that were shown (in this sampling) to have lead contamination were Vital Lady and (LOL) Worry Free. http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/300/8/915.pdf That settles it, I'm going to stop taking Vital Lady immediately!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: (snip) One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that deserves our attention (snip) Before asking that, one might ask why (other than projection of their own desires) Barry might WANT your attention, let alone think he deserves it. Barry has said many times here that he's writing for himself, for the sheer pleasure of writing and for the occasional entertainment value of seeing how people react *or* not react to that writing. But again it comes down to Don't believe what I say...just watch. PAY ATTENTION to who on this forum complains and bitches and moans when they post something and no one replies, or they reply in a way that takes the original post off on a tangent. I think you'll find that that isn't me. I think you'll find, in fact, that it's the complainant above. Turk(Barry) is an excellent movie reviewer, and also, gives a sense of what is like in Europe... A very warped, highly subjective sense of what it is like in Europe *for me*. If anyone happens to enjoy that very warped, highly subjective snapshot, that's their business. He also, is excellent at pushing people's buttons, to have them, perhaps, think or feel more deeply, on why they might feel so challenged by his comments... Good perception. Take the little exercise that the complainant above fell for yesterday. I didn't know exactly how many posts she made during that period of time that were *not* expressing her pleasure at someone else's humiliation or misfortune, and I didn't care. I started checking, found none in the first 20 posts or so, and got bored with it. My only purpose in suggesting the whole bet was to see whether I could get *HER* to do it. And that was interesting *only* because of your insightful sentence above, Robert. I wanted to see whether -- having been suckered into going through all of her posts for the last month or so and *realizing* how many of them were all about her gloating over someone else's humili- ation or misfortune, and how few involved her expressing pleasure at anything human and real -- she would LEARN anything from this. She did not. All she saw in the exercise was yet another attempt to scream I won, and Gotcha. That's pretty pathetic. By contrast, look at Bob Brigante's posts today. Having been once again placed on a Watch List of 30-year meditators and pointed at as what he is -- an EXAMPLE of what TM produces -- he seems to have LEARNED something. He has posted a bunch of positive stuff. Personally, I happen to believe that much of it is positive propaganda, but I am not going to rag on it because I appreciate his gesture. Having been pointed out as an example of what TM produces, he posted some *positive* things. Good for him. What has the complainant above done? Only attacked more, and continued to play Gotcha. She has learned NOTHING from this whole exercise. Having gone through it, she will probably spend *all 50** of her posts this week playing Gotcha, while thinking she's winning. And she'll do the same thing next week, and the next. As I said, pathetic. He is certainly a dedicated writer, of this rag-tag group, and I wouldn't underestimate his ability, to come up with some pretty wild spins, and observations of everyday occurrences... I don't know about dedicated. Chained to the computer is more like it. :-) I work mainly at home, writing XML and code that demands long compile and publication times. It is not unusual for me to spend 10 minutes sitting and waiting for every hour I spend writing. So during those down time periods I catch up on FFL and several other forums I participate in. I do this for fun, and the way that my French co- workers take cigarette breaks. ( My boss has no problem with this, because he smokes and knows that his cigarette breaks constitute far more down time than my Internet breaks. ) During these Internet breaks yes, I *delight* in putting wild spins on things. Where's the fun in seeing stuff the way that others see it? What's to be LEARNED from seeing or describing things the way that others see them? He is also, one of the only people in the world, who has actually witnessed someone levitating! Actually, to clarify, I am one of thousands who have witnessed someone levitating, and that's speaking only of Frederick Lenz - Rama. Turqs bag of tricks is almost unlimited! And his subtle removal of masks... One of the benefits of studying with Frederick Lenz - Rama is that he was the polar opposite of Maharishi. Maharishi was all about heaping praise on students to get them to do things. Tell them they're great and they'll give him money. Tell them they're the most important people on the planet and they won't notice that none of them are enlightened yet. There was no pressure to ever CHANGE around Maharishi. You could stay stuck in the same ruts for decades, and as evidenced here, many did. Rama was a button-pusher. In that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 no_re...@... wrote: Here's some of the metals in it: Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur) Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust) Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium) Vanga bhasma (tin) That's the good thing about ayurveda: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Funny thing is, I was on a course in east europe once and someone said that all the ayurvedic stuff on sale was direct from India and had all the precious metals in it that they aren't allowed to export. We all got excited about being able to buy the real thing and loaded up with bottles and jars of stuff that promised all sorts of magical transformations. [Sigh] How innocent and trusting we were. At least I didn't get ill from anything, didn't notice any effect at all actually. Probably safer that way. When Amrit Kalash (Nectar of Immortality)went on sale the TMO did a big questionaire in the UKs sidha community hoping to get amazing tales of transformation, everyone was taking it of course. I mean, you would take it with all the fanfare that surrounded it. The reported results were so disappointing that the whole thing was quietly shelved and forgotten about. An amusing case of hiding the research that doesn't fit your claims. It never did anything for me. My dog wouldn't eat it either. Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken... So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as hatters they're really quite accurate. The term as mad as a hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad. It explains a lot. The original Mad Hatter was from my home town. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A882939
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: When Amrit Kalash (Nectar of Immortality)went on sale the TMO did a big questionaire in the UKs sidha community hoping to get amazing tales of transformation, everyone was taking it of course. I mean, you would take it with all the fanfare that surrounded it. The reported results were so disappointing that the whole thing was quietly shelved and forgotten about. An amusing case of hiding the research that doesn't fit your claims. Every questionnaire is the perfect opportunity for the answer we have already prepared. :-) It never did anything for me. My dog wouldn't eat it either. Once in Santa Fe I was walking the two dogs who now live with me (they were my former girlfriend's dogs at the time) and we passed a building at which a locally-famous spiritual teacher was giving darshan. There were crowds of people standing outside waiting for this guy to arrive. Curious, I let the dogs off the leash and let them wander around while I sat on a bench and waiting for this guy to arrive, so that I could check out his aura and see what I thought about him. They are people dogs, and were well-behaved. The guy fin- ally arrived and did the humbly accepting flowers from his followers thang the way Maharishi used to do, so I was able to sit there and check him out. I was seriously underwhelmed...no phwam! or energy at all, and his act seemed to consist of spending the most time with the people who fawned over him the most. I hear that once inside, that was his act as well, but I can't say for sure because I was not the least tempted to go inside. But there was another reason I wasn't tempted to check this guy out any further. My dogs took one look at this guy and started barking at him. Their hair bristled and they treated him the way they would have treated a coyote. I had to drag them away to keep them from biting him. About six months later, I read that the spiritual teacher in question had been convicted of massive fraud and sexual inappropriateness (including rape) with many of his followers, both male and female. He did time in prison. Obviously, the jurors per- ceived him differently than his former followers had. Me, I wasn't surprised to read this. Dogs know things that we mere humans don't.
[FairfieldLife] Hello from the UK
I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours. Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative. The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy. By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK Jai Guru Dev David
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine
On Jul 15, 2009, at 3:07 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote: Here's some of the metals in it: Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur) Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust) Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium) Vanga bhasma (tin) Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken... So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as hatters they're really quite accurate. The term as mad as a hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad. It explains a lot. The tendency in many westerners, Americans in particular, is to think 'if something is good for you, then more is better'. Unfortunately for Ayurvedic siddha medicines like Energol, the opposite is true. So someone swallowing pills once or more daily, on a long term basis is a recipe for disaster.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!
It sounds like you may need a checking, Rick. Make sure it is by a re-certified male governor in a home with proper vastu. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:59 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ffl...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me! I like WillyTex - he always comes across as time as just the biggest, most huggable bundle of fun I can imagine. He is more fun to read than many others. I find his own unique and creative way of trolling to be interesting at times. Nabby too. Where would we be without Nabby? He's as much fun as a barrel of monkies.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK
Ignorance truly is bliss for some people. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours. Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative. The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy. By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK Jai Guru Dev David
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip * Believing that someone who is old enough to be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is acting like a teenybopper There are many more ways, of course, in which Barry acts like a teenybopper. snip * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have cancer, his wife did; and they didn't die in each other's arms but on beds next to each other, holding hands), I totally agree with his perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're ill or not*. Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of human rights to force somebody to endure whatever unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live without their beloved partner, or simply because whatever made their lives worth living--in their own judgment--was no longer available to them. (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and almost deaf.) Since society is not harmed by a person taking their own life, and since nobody knows what happens after death, the individual should be free to decide whether they want to risk the chance of negative repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one. The only precautions that need to be taken are to ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making such a decision.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: [I wrote:] (snip) One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that deserves our attention (snip) Before asking that, one might ask why (other than projection of their own desires) Barry might WANT your attention, let alone think he deserves it. Barry has said many times here that he's writing for himself, for the sheer pleasure of writing and for the occasional entertainment value of seeing how people react *or* not react to that writing. Barry: NOBODY IS FOOLED. (Well, maybe except for Robert. Ain't that a proud accomplishment!) Even Barry's *toadies* know this is bullshit. Saying it many times here is just another of the many ways Barry begs for attention. But again it comes down to Don't believe what I say...just watch. PAY ATTENTION to who on this forum complains and bitches and moans when they post something and no one replies, or they reply in a way that takes the original post off on a tangent. I think you'll find that that isn't me. I think you'll find, in fact, that it's the complainant above. NOBODY IS FOOLED. They know I don't do this. snip Good perception. Take the little exercise that the complainant above fell for yesterday. I didn't know exactly how many posts she made during that period of time that were *not* expressing her pleasure at someone else's humiliation or misfortune, and I didn't care. I started checking, found none in the first 20 posts or so, and got bored with it. NOBODY IS FOOLED. They know Barry *lied*. They know--as I've pointed out--that he assumed I would *not* go through 270 pages of the Yahoo message list, so he thought he was safe in denouncing me as lacking the self-honesty to check. But he miscalculated badly, because he forgot about the other archive. And then when his lies were exposed, he fell back on this new lie: My only purpose in suggesting the whole bet was to see whether I could get *HER* to do it. And that was interesting *only* because of your insightful sentence above, Robert. I wanted to see whether -- having been suckered into going through all of her posts for the last month or so and *realizing* how many of them were all about her gloating over someone else's humili- ation or misfortune, and how few involved her expressing pleasure at anything human and real -- she would LEARN anything from this. I learned exactly what I suspected, that Barry had lied. Not exactly breaking news, to me or anybody else here. I know what proportion of my posts I spend doing what. It isn't accidental. But let's look at the *additional* lies in Barry's paragraph above: First, he omits the category of posts I make that involve straightforward discussion. I make far more of those than he does. Second, I don't gloat over anyone's misfortune. Third, the *vast* majority of posts I make in which I do anything remotely like gloating over someone's humiliation are in response to Barry's posts. He's the person I humiliate most often, by exposing his lies, his hypocrisy, his sloppy thinking, his self- exaltation, and his overall fraudulence. That's why he hates me. And that reveals yet another lie: that he Doesn't Give a Shit what people think of him. If he really didn't give a shit, how could he possibly be humiliated? And along those lines, look at how much of the rest of his post is devoted to attempting to polish his image and defend himself from criticism. NOBODY IS FOOLED. She did not. All she saw in the exercise was yet another attempt to scream I won, and Gotcha. Didn't scream either one, of course. What happened was that once again, Barry *LOST*. He was humiliated. He thought he had a sure bet; he didn't think he was risking having his lies exposed. That's pretty pathetic. Says Barry, the inveterate hypocrite, trying to make readers believe he has something to gloat over (it's *fine* when he does it, you see), thinking if he screams I won and Gotcha loudly enough, folks will think he humiliated me, when they know it was exactly the reverse. NOBODY IS FOOLED. By contrast, look at Bob Brigante's posts today. Having been once again placed on a Watch List of 30-year meditators and pointed at as what he is -- Notice how carefully Barry phrases the above to disguise the fact that *the* Watch List is his own conceit, and that Barry is the only one doing any pointing. an EXAMPLE of what TM produces -- he seems to have LEARNED something. He has posted a bunch of positive stuff. No, he hasn't. He's posted the same type of stuff he usually does, some positive, some negative. But Barry, controlled by his desperate need *to* control, spins Bob's posting as the result of Barry's own actions. NOBODY IS FOOLED. snip many more paragraphs of self-justification from the person who claims he Doesn't Give a Shit what anybody thinks of him
[FairfieldLife] Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
I've just come back from one of the most pleasant walks along the Sitges beach I've ever experienced. It was the same beach, full of the same suntan-oil-covered bodies, but what made it different this time is that I got to share the walk with a friend who was here in Sitges for a short time. She was here to give a talk last night at a large con- ference on the empowerment of women in business, or something like that. She kindly left my name at the door, so I was able to hear it, and it personified everything I've been trying to say on this forum about the differ- ence between real feminists and those who call themselves feminists but choose to live their lives as if they were perpetual victims. Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to mention men even once. What she spoke about was success and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred- ibility because the companies she created made her a millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the women at the conference could do to become successful themselves. She had told me on the phone that she wouldn't have time to chat after her talk, so we met for a quick lunch today before she hopped on a plane to head off for a month-long yoga retreat in India. We know each other from the Rama trip, which we both spent 14 years in. I watched her grow in that movement from a lovely but insecure girl with no computer skills to a capable and *very* secure high-tech millionaire in a mere ten of those years. But interestingly enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The past never came up period, because for both of us the things we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to squeeze in. And lunch was nice, as we caught up on our respective Nows, but it was the walk along the beach that made it a wonderful experience for me. My friend loves life and loves to laugh, so walking with her along a Spanish beach full of naked or near-naked bodies turned into a non-stop laugh-fest. We walked along, laughing, enjoying the sun, and having fun. The only homage to our time together with Rama is that we spent some time playing Who's pushing it out? That was an exercise in perception he taught us in which you shift your state of attention to the place from which you can see other people's auras or energy patterns and then see which of them are content with keeping their energy to themselves and which instead feel compelled to push it out to attract attention from others. Interestingly, we both noticed that it was pri- marily the tourists (those without tans) who felt compelled to push it out and troll for attention; the Spanish seemed more content to keep their shakti in their Speedos or bikini bottoms and not seem to *need* a lot of external attention. The fact that about half of the women were wearing *only* bikini bottoms became the next subject for merriment. I have been here so long that I rarely even notice that the beach is one long boob-fest, but for some reason my friend seemed to be actively checking out the beach boobage, as if she found it utterly fascinating. I know from experience ( before she was married ) that she is far from breast-challenged herself, so I knew that she wasn't conducting this boob inventory out of envy. So I asked what she *was* checking for, and she said (cracking up), Authenticity, as measured by compliance with the law of gravity. It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish seemed to be in their bodies, especially as compared to the women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of* my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of success. It's
[FairfieldLife] Red State's Jackie and Dunlap on Sarah Palin
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!
Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money. Do you earn anything by promoting this thing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawa...@... wrote: Dear All, I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to find out more. Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net. Let me explain... One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what you want in life. This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING. Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in the way, you know? All that is about to change! Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a movie I'm NOT kidding. The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do. Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want: http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one and will share with you once it's done. Cheers! Meera
[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money. Do you earn anything by promoting this thing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawatts@ wrote: Dear All, I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to find out more. Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net. Let me explain... One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what you want in life. This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING. Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in the way, you know? All that is about to change! Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a movie I'm NOT kidding. The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do. Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want: http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one and will share with you once it's done. Cheers! Meera She sounds like a spammer to me...maybe Rick should look into it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money. Do you earn anything by promoting this thing? I noticed that, too. Very *impolite* site, nerd-wise. Any site that doesn't allow you to gracefully close its tab without preventing you from doing it so that it can try several more times to sell you something is a scam. It should probably be mentioned as well that the last person on this forum who was trying to sell us on the high spiritual value of The Secret is the TM TB who attempted to get Fairfield Life shut down by posting porn to it and then complaining to the Yahoo adminis- trators about it. I wonder what *he* was trying to attract. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawatts@ wrote: Dear All, I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to find out more. Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net. Let me explain... One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what you want in life. This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING. Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in the way, you know? All that is about to change! Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a movie I'm NOT kidding. The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do. Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want: http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one and will share with you once it's done. Cheers! Meera
[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Do you earn anything by promoting this thing? She sounds like a spammer to me...maybe Rick should look into it. Even if she is, my bet is there are people here who are gullible enough to not only buy whatever is being sold but to moodmake benefits from it. For example, our new member from the UK might be interested. Anyone who can live in Scorpion nation and yet still believe that dear Maharishi was always positive and that the TMO never expresses negativity will buy ANYTHING. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours. I agree, the level of rudeness in this group is nearly as embarrassing as the level of pomposity and obsequity in the official TMO. Post some intelligent comments and help to improve the signal to noise ratio.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!
Robert wrote: Rajneesh was into all kinds of 'sexual freedom', which included orgies, with him watching... You need to stop posting misinformation, Robert. I've seen no evidence that Rajneesh observed or participated in any orgies. Apparently the Rajneesh had a single girlfriend, Vivek, for over ten years. None of these accounts listed below have anything to say about Rajneesh's private sex life, so exactly, how would you be knowing? 'Bhagwan: The God That Failed' By Hugh Milne St. Martins Press, 1987 'My Life in Orange: Growing Up with the Guru' by Tim Guest Harvest Books, 2005 'Place Called Antelope - Rajneesh Story' by Donna Quick August Press, 1995 'Karma Cola: Marketing the Mystic East' By Gita Mehta Vintage Books, 1994
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot
scienceofabundance wrote: I see nothing on the page you referred to about Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits... The boy pundits see the doctor all the time, according to my sources in Vedic City. But, the boys DO NOT SMOKE. There is nothing in the Vedas that commands boy pundits in Fairfield, Iowa, to smoke.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money. Do you earn anything by promoting this thing? I noticed that, too. Very *impolite* site, nerd-wise. Any site that doesn't allow you to gracefully close its tab without preventing you from doing it so that it can try several more times to sell you something is a scam. It should probably be mentioned as well that the last person on this forum who was trying to sell us on the high spiritual value of The Secret is the TM TB who attempted to get Fairfield Life shut down by posting porn to it and then complaining to the Yahoo adminis- trators about it. I wonder what *he* was trying to attract. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawatts@ wrote: Dear All, I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to find out more. Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net. Let me explain... One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what you want in life. This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING. Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in the way, you know? All that is about to change! Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a movie I'm NOT kidding. The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do. Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want: http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one and will share with you once it's done. Cheers! Meera Yikes! Chain letters on YouTube? Meera, I wish you well. I hope you this didn't cost you money. Like burning leaves before the fall Hope moves the heart to chance Internet sharks are everywhere Offer riches look askance World of jaded beings clamor Greed exchanged for your tears Hold child close give protection Whisper love soothing fears raunchydog There's a sucker born every minute P.T. Barnum
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: The fact that about half of the women were wearing *only* bikini bottoms became the next subject for merriment. I have been here so long that I rarely even notice that the beach is one long boob-fest, but for some reason my friend seemed to be actively checking out the beach boobage, as if she found it utterly fascinating. I know from experience ( before she was married ) that she is far from breast-challenged herself, so I knew that she wasn't conducting this boob inventory out of envy. So I asked what she *was* checking for, and she said (cracking up), Authenticity, as measured by compliance with the law of gravity. I don't have much body-envy myself, but I still do have some fairly significant body issues. Maybe my next vacation (Ha! What's that?) should be in Spain. It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Now this is fascinating. I thought boob-jobs could make them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them, um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it. Hope it was worth it... God only knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies. This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons, you might say, to wonder about this garbage... 3 excellent reasons, in fact. Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish seemed to be in their bodies, Now *that's* what I'm jealous of! especially as compared to the women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of* my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of success. Good idea. Think I'll go lighten up into a cup of coffee and a cinnamon roll. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip * Believing that someone who is old enough to be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is acting like a teenybopper There are many more ways, of course, in which Barry acts like a teenybopper. snip * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have cancer, his wife did; and they didn't die in each other's arms but on beds next to each other, holding hands), I totally agree with his perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're ill or not*. Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of human rights to force somebody to endure whatever unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live without their beloved partner, or simply because whatever made their lives worth living--in their own judgment--was no longer available to them. (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and almost deaf.) Since society is not harmed by a person taking their own life, and since nobody knows what happens after death, the individual should be free to decide whether they want to risk the chance of negative repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one. The only precautions that need to be taken are to ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making such a decision. I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die? Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint the end of the world. people do get over it. I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued. Life aint like that, it's bitch. Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip She was here to give a talk last night at a large con- ference on the empowerment of women in business, or something like that. Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the empowerment of women in business? Why do women have to have a special conference of their own to hear about how to empower themselves? Are there any conferences for men only about how they can empower themselves? The very notion of empowerment automatically implies its opposite, an existing lack of power. snip Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to mention men even once. What she spoke about was success and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred- ibility because the companies she created made her a millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the women at the conference could do to become successful themselves. It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of women about female empowerment means women have things they must overcome before they can become successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist. That there have to be conferences for women only about how they can empower themselves to achieve success in business, when there are no such conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words about sexism and misogyny. But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about how women can empower themselves, and talk about how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor is one more real feminism than the other. They're two sides to the same coin. But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how to empower themselves to overcome it. First, though, they need to *recognize* it in themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously down that river in Egypt. snip But interestingly enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The past never came up period, because for both of us the things we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to squeeze in. A different topic, but that last sentence is just too funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum. Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately. (Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he was putting up a couple of real feminists while they gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how they made a special arrangement for him to attend a party for the participants where he stood in the back of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points in the context of a *very* similar situation to the one he describes above.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours. Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative. The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy. Greetings cloudy-minded Scorpion! I think your 'movement' viewpoint will provide an interesting counterpoint to some of our debates. Just don't take anything personally.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Now this is fascinating. I thought boob-jobs could make them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them, um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it. I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when the woman is lying on her back, they tend to remain fully at attention, pointing to the heavens. It's really not all that attractive. I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you understand...from other guys ) that real lechers can usually tell which are real and which are Memorex through several layers of clothing. :-) Hope it was worth it... God only knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies. Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons, you might say, to wonder about this garbage... 3 excellent reasons, in fact. Six, actually. :-) Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh... told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff above about real vs. natural also says that natural is always better. :-) Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish seemed to be in their bodies, Now *that's* what I'm jealous of! As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to get over. especially as compared to the women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of* my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of success. Good idea. Think I'll go lighten up into a cup of coffee and a cinnamon roll. Whatever works, as far as I can tell. All I know is that when she first started trying to become a success in the computer industry my friend went the workaholic and serious route. She worked 70+ hours a week, barely slept, never dated because she felt she didn't have time to, and almost never had any fun. The fascinating thing was that, as talented as she was, nothing was working in her business...it wasn't making any money. I was concerned enough about her to forcibly drag her out of the house one night and take her out for a pity movie, because she so obviously needed one. After the movie, we ran into Rama, who had been in the same movie, although we hadn't noticed him. He took one look at her and said, You are a fucking mess. You need to *chill*, girl. Don't come to any seminars [which at that point were held every week] until you have gotten laid a couple of dozen times and gotten drunk or stoned or whatever you used to do for fun and lightened up. Whatever you are doing is not *working*. So try something else. My friend was *far* more of a Rama TB than I was, so she took this stuff seriously. So seriously that she was at the next week's seminar, having done everything he suggested :-), and looking like a completely different person. It was as if she had dropped ten years off her age and all the darkness from her aura. Interestingly enough, that's when her business took off. She never went back to being a worka- holic, and made sure to maintain a balance between work and fun from then on, and the bucks started flowing in. Within a year she sold that first company for a million bucks and started another one. So when she tells women that LIGHTENING UP can help them to succeed, she is speaking from experience.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK David a positive voice is most welcome
Thanks 4 the additional positive voice David Palmer sweet tounged voice as well. Here so many have left for or to avoid the negative here mouths less than sweet. Col. Wm. D. Leed III USA Ret. mostly, whose ancestor on Dads side left Yorkshire Leeds as a Leeds in 1679 again 82 to come with our - your Wm Penn. son of the Adirmal Penn to Penns woods he a Quaker (kundinally rising there) Society of Friends my ancestor was worse a Puritan benn back I have to the mother land several times. On the cite U mostly use the delete button respond to more happy voices directly. In a message dated 7/15/2009 11:35:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, richardhughes...@hotmail.com writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours. Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative. The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy. Greetings cloudy-minded Scorpion! I think your 'movement' viewpoint will provide an interesting counterpoint to some of our debates. Just don't take anything personally. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4)
[FairfieldLife] Hardball: Bill Maher - At Least Sanford Was Truly In Love
Hardball, comedian Bill Maher was hilarious in a discussion of the recent Republican sex scandals and his fun tour of the South. He's got Chris Matthews rolling on the floor... Watch: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#31912481
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die? Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint the end of the world. people do get over it. I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued. Life aint like that, it's bitch. Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it? It's painful to see a loved one suffer, painful to watch them die and painful to mourn. Each step of goodbye, hoping the end will not come, knowing it will, brings us closer to our own mortality. Feeling the kinship of humanity and compassion for those bereft of courage at loss, naturally we reach out in friendship to fill the void with wise counsel and protection until the tears have passed. Choice is just around the corner of now, balancing life and death decisions. Knowing we are not alone helps ease the burden of rightly or wrongly choosing an unknown. Even so, no one can choose for you. In the end you will be alone passing into yet another unknown.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip She was here to give a talk last night at a large con- ference on the empowerment of women in business, or something like that. Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the empowerment of women in business? Why do women have to have a special conference of their own to hear about how to empower themselves? Are there any conferences for men only about how they can empower themselves? The very notion of empowerment automatically implies its opposite, an existing lack of power. snip Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to mention men even once. What she spoke about was success and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred- ibility because the companies she created made her a millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the women at the conference could do to become successful themselves. It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of women about female empowerment means women have things they must overcome before they can become successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist. That there have to be conferences for women only about how they can empower themselves to achieve success in business, when there are no such conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words about sexism and misogyny. But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about how women can empower themselves, and talk about how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor is one more real feminism than the other. They're two sides to the same coin. But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how to empower themselves to overcome it. First, though, they need to *recognize* it in themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously down that river in Egypt. snip But interestingly enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The past never came up period, because for both of us the things we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to squeeze in. A different topic, but that last sentence is just too funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum. Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately. (Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he was putting up a couple of real feminists while they gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how they made a special arrangement for him to attend a party for the participants where he stood in the back of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points in the context of a *very* similar situation to the one he describes above.) Yep, I remember the last women's conference Barry said he attended as a special guest and thought of it as I read this all too familiar theme. As I recall at the last conference he said the women were dressed to the nines. What I want to know is, how does he keep getting into these women's conferences unless he's going in drag? The only thing different about this post is the banter about boobs on the beach. The question now is, who is the bigger boob?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of human rights to force somebody to endure whatever unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live without their beloved partner, or simply because whatever made their lives worth living--in their own judgment--was no longer available to them. (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and almost deaf.) Since society is not harmed by a person taking their own life, and since nobody knows what happens after death, the individual should be free to decide whether they want to risk the chance of negative repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one. The only precautions that need to be taken are to ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making such a decision. I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die? Well, all they really have to do is hand over a sufficient number of the right kind of pills. Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and a search for the personal best cure. Yeah, but depression *isn't* always curable; and sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. It's worth the old college try if one feels up to it, but the problem with depression is that it saps one's motivational energy. In any case, though, with regard to the choice to die when one isn't really ill, I wasn't thinking of clinical depression so much as a clear-headed decision that one has accomplished whatever one wanted to in life and is unlikely to accomplish anything more that's new and different and valuable, to oneself or anyone else. It can come from a place of feeling satisfied and complete, in other words, rather than from a feeling of lack. I don't think it should legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint the end of the world. people do get over it. But it shouldn't be anyone else's *decision* but yours. I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued. Life aint like that, it's bitch. I agree, but doesn't that support what I just wrote above? Why should you have to hang on until you're 90? Why not get out while the getting's good? Why should that be considered a tragedy? Why should death be something to be avoided at all costs? If you *want* to continue to live, if you still have things you want to do, fine. I'd be quite annoyed if I had to check out any time in the near future. But if I eventually get to the point that I feel I'm all done, I'd really like to be able to make a graceful exit. Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Again, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I had a friend who was manic-depressive who made a *heroic* effort to get better--from one medication to the next, hospitalization, therapy--for many years with no discernible improvement. Finally she decided enough was enough and jumped off a building. She had lots of friends who cared for her deeply and had done everything they could to help. Why couldn't she have died peacefully with them at her side wishing her a good journey? Lying on a table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it? Shouldn't death be considered a part of life? Especially if it's your own? (This is my 50th; see you in a few days.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money. Do you earn anything by promoting this thing? I'd wager that the number in her link is her affiliate number and that her intro was only a means of fooling the mods into thinking she's not the spammer that she really is. I've put her on moderated status, just in case she decides she wants to actually respond to the questions asked of her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF are deeply interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms, and I'm the exact opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to no end.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours. Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative. The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy. By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK Jai Guru Dev David Hello David, Most of the negativity on this group comes from our two pets, the disciples of the Dalai Lama, the Turq and the Vaj. Well, some call this teacher the Dolly Lama but I don't see that as very negative. Be welcomed and get a badge ! Jai Guru Dev
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Now this is fascinating. I thought boob-jobs could make them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them, um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it. I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when the woman is lying on her back, they tend to remain fully at attention, pointing to the heavens. It's really not all that attractive. I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you understand...from other guys ) that real lechers can usually tell which are real and which are Memorex through several layers of clothing. :-) Well actually I've often wondered if guys are generally turned on by women who have had significant plastic surgery--I can't imagine they are. I know in reverse that few things for myself are more off-putting than hearing that a guy has used steroids or other artificial body aids. It just ain't sexy. Hope it was worth it... God only knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies. Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I found it on You Tube--or at least one, with the guys from Iceland--and I agree...almost preternatural. Along those same lines (ha! NPI) have you checked out what Judy Collins has done lately to her once- beautiful face? And supposedly directors don't even like to work with Nicole Kidman or Cher anymore because their faces are basically frozen in perpetual smiles... real emotions are almost impossible to convey when you've had that much junk injected. As Curtis said, it's hard to believe people think this makes them look better. This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons, you might say, to wonder about this garbage... 3 excellent reasons, in fact. Six, actually. :-) Well I was thinking of everything you could get done. Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh... told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff above about real vs. natural also says that natural is always better. :-) Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish seemed to be in their bodies, Now *that's* what I'm jealous of! As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to get over. Yeah. We got everything here except what really counts. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK
On Jul 15, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF are deeply interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms, and I'm the exact opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to no end. Me as well. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)] Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings. This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore. The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the bedroom. They know us Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant cries. McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more difficult to habituate to, she said. McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow. Tough to test Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their pets' cries capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different cats. The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry as more urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts. When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls decreased significantly. McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked. The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim- ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity. Now this is fascinating. I thought boob-jobs could make them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them, um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it. I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when the woman is lying on her back, they tend to remain fully at attention, pointing to the heavens. It's really not all that attractive. I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you understand...from other guys ) that real lechers can usually tell which are real and which are Memorex through several layers of clothing. :-) The technology is constantly improving. There are implants now which are adjustable. Hope it was worth it... God only knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies. Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK
Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... wrote: Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer blemishes. That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF are deeply interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms, and I'm the exact opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to no end. I find it a little boring sometimes but that's because it seems to come from a weakly taught perspective. Also subtle experiences are often just that experiences and meant to just be experiences. They are extremely difficult to put into words. Recently one of the closest expressions I've found which was probably way misinterpreted here was the other worldliness of the vampires on True Blood though as of late the Michelle Forbes character is even more representative of tantric powers (though in a dark way and is based on some Greek mythical character). There is also a group here who seems to believe that if you have practiced sadhana for many, many years you are no better off than the flatlander bumps we bump into day to day in society. Theoretically nothing should be further from the truth. Yes, that means even with TM ones consciousness should have evolved considerably over the years. Some people cushion this viewpoint as being elitist but my question is why did you practice meditation all these years if you weren't interested in self-improvement? Inevitably you are going to wind up levels above the consciousness of the average individual. But it is a compassionate situation as the method is available to anyone who wants it. One of the points I took with me from SCI was that just because someone is bright or expert in a field DOESN'T mean they are enlightened. They are just bright or expert in their field. When I encountered such people in life I watched to see if they really could function that way outside of the their field of expertise. How well did they handle abstract thought? Often I would be surprised then maybe a little further unsurprised when I learned (usually after they found I did yogic techniques) that they too delved into spiritual realms. I would have never suspected that one techie friend was expert in Tarot but his mother is Russian and it was a practiced passed down in the family. And this guy is a big fan of the Skeptical Inquirer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine
guyfawkes91 wrote: Here's some of the metals in it: Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur) Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust) Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium) Vanga bhasma (tin) Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken... So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as hatters they're really quite accurate. The term as mad as a hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad. It explains a lot. There may be far less mercury (which is treated in a special way as to not be harmful) in ayurvedic treatments than you probably got from the fillings your dentist gave you or possibly in the vaccines you got inflicted with. In rural India I watched an ayurvedic physician play with a ball of mercury he had treated to be safe. Ask for a list of the ingredients from the upcoming Swine Flu vaccine they want to foist on us. I don't know about you I won't take any shot unless I have a complete list of ingredients and their amounts in a vaccine (and I can usually claim an allergy to something in them, sulfa in particular). I think the inner circle's madness came from something else.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide. See link http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world Let me see if I've got this straight: * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural tendency to judge matters according to what other people think. For that matter, they make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created for themselves. In vedic terms, these are all maya, or false images of water on the desert floor. The key to better living is take life as it comes and not be fettered by one's own perceptions of what the good life should be, nor other people's concept of the good life should be. In other words, the phenomenal world will always be changing and is not and cannot be perfect as it should be. I'm refraining to make comments on your other ideas since they are off the main topic--in other words, they're non-sequitur. JR
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die? Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint the end of the world. people do get over it. I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued. Life aint like that, it's bitch. Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it? You hit the nail on the head. I agree with much of what you say here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA lists MAPI US lead contaminated products
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Despite the fact that MAPI claims they test for metals, at least two products have lead in them according to the JAMA article Lead, Mercury, and Arsenic in US- and Indian-Manufactured Ayurvedic Medicines Sold via the Internet. Who knows how many other MAPI products are similarly tainted? And these aren't even the product with heavy metals listed as ingredients! The two products that were shown (in this sampling) to have lead contamination were Vital Lady and (LOL) Worry Free. http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/300/8/915.pdf That settles it, I'm going to stop taking Vital Lady immediately! All products bought from MAPI in Colorado Springs are lead and other contaminant/heavy metal free -- people who bought from the internet from Indian sources, including MAPI India, did get lead if they bought Vitalady and Worryfree, due to the typical dim bulb management of the TM movement, who should have taken complete control over the MAPI name and practices in India, but failed to do so.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. ** I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to offend the human masters of the territory. [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)] Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings. This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore. The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the bedroom. They know us Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant cries. McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more difficult to habituate to, she said. McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow. Tough to test Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their pets' cries capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different cats. The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry as more urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts. When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls decreased significantly. McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked. The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
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[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide. See link http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\ Let me see if I've got this straight: * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural tendency to judge matters according to what other people think. For that matter, they make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created for themselves. In vedic terms, these are all maya, or false images of water on the desert floor. John, assuming that you truly believe this: 1. Are you not a human being? 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of? 3. Do you not have emotions? 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself? 5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your* thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images? Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one* of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its supposed value are merely maya, or false images? If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth. Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya, and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation. See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the point that you were really making without realizing what it was: [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Bubble bursting sequence] [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. ** I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to offend the human masters of the territory. How many times have you shit in their cat box, Bob? If your answer is Never, then it seems to me that marking their territory is working quite well. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. ** I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to offend the human masters of the territory. The study simply shows that house kitties can display and enhance meowing skills to be able to effectively get owners to respond to their needs/wishes. I agree that kitties do accept human dominance. [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)] Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings. This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore. The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the bedroom. They know us Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant cries. McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more difficult to habituate to, she said. McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow. Tough to test Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their pets' cries capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different cats. The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry as more urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts. When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls decreased significantly. McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked. The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip * Believing that someone who is old enough to be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is acting like a teenybopper There are many more ways, of course, in which Barry acts like a teenybopper. snip * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have cancer, his wife did; and they didn't die in each other's arms but on beds next to each other, holding hands), I totally agree with his perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're ill or not*. Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of human rights to force somebody to endure whatever unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live without their beloved partner, or simply because whatever made their lives worth living--in their own judgment--was no longer available to them. (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and almost deaf.) Since society is not harmed by a person taking their own life, and since nobody knows what happens after death, the individual should be free to decide whether they want to risk the chance of negative repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one. The only precautions that need to be taken are to ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making such a decision. There are many people in the world, including the couple in question, who think like you regardig this topic. Please, read my comment to Barry's post on this thread. Also, St. Aquinas (he may have gotten it from Plato) came up with a logical principle to follow regarding moral questions. The action that one takes to correct or answer a moral question should be inherently good in itself. If the action is inherently evil, then the action should not be taken. In this case, the act of taking one's own life (suicide) is inherently evil. Therefore, suicide is not an acceptable moral act to fix the problem, i.e suffering due to emotional or physical pain and anguish.
[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)
Beautiful photographs. To see for the first time how that particular event happens, step by step, after a lifetime of seeing bubbles bursting is really satisfying. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide. See link http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\ Let me see if I've got this straight: * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural tendency to judge matters according to what other people think. For that matter, they make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created for themselves. In vedic terms, these are all maya, or false images of water on the desert floor. John, assuming that you truly believe this: 1. Are you not a human being? 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of? 3. Do you not have emotions? 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself? 5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your* thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images? Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one* of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its supposed value are merely maya, or false images? If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth. Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya, and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation. See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the point that you were really making without realizing what it was: [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Bubble bursting sequence] [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. ** I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to offend the human masters of the territory. How many times have you shit in their cat box, Bob? If your answer is Never, then it seems to me that marking their territory is working quite well. :-) White man speak with fork-ed tongue...
[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Beautiful photographs. To see for the first time how that particular event happens, step by step, after a lifetime of seeing bubbles bursting is really satisfying. Thanks. De nada. Details about how these photos were taken are here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1199149/Super-slow-motion-pictures-soap-bubble-bursting-stunning-detail.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide. See link http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\ Let me see if I've got this straight: * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural tendency to judge matters according to what other people think. For that matter, they make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created for themselves. In vedic terms, these are all maya, or false images of water on the desert floor. John, assuming that you truly believe this: 1. Are you not a human being? 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of? 3. Do you not have emotions? 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself? 5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your* thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images? Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one* of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its supposed value are merely maya, or false images? If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth. Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya, and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation. See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the point that you were really making without realizing what it was: [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Bubble bursting sequence] [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning. Sounds like the plot of a bad Star Trek episode. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)] Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings. This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore. The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the bedroom. They know us Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant cries. McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more difficult to habituate to, she said. McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow. Tough to test Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their pets' cries capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different cats. The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry as more urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts. When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls decreased significantly. McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked. The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning. Sounds like the plot of a bad Star Trek episode. And the Shremp says 'I' don't have a sense of hyoomer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)] Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings. This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore. The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the bedroom. They know us Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant cries. McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more difficult to habituate to, she said. McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow. Tough to test Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their pets' cries capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different cats. The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry as more urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts. When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls decreased significantly. McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked. The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
[FairfieldLife] Maddow interview on the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency
Rachel conducts a very revealing interview with Elizabeth Warren, chair of Congressional oversight for TARP, on the newly proposed Consumer Financial Protection Agency. You may be surprised when you see what this protection entails, but you'll probably not be surprised at all at how and why the Big Money financial industry desperately wants to kill it. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx1FFdTeak
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow interview on the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Rachel conducts a very revealing interview with Elizabeth Warren, chair of Congressional oversight for TARP, on the newly proposed Consumer Financial Protection Agency. You may be surprised when you see what this protection entails, but you'll probably not be surprised at all at how and why the Big Money financial industry desperately wants to kill it. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx1FFdTeak Why would the 'Big Money Financial Industry' want to support it? They paid to learn all the tricks of the trade...(Clever Financial Vampires, commonly known as MBA's)... Why would they want to give you protection, from their need to have their monthly blood sucking orgies, with interest compounded as often as possible... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning. Sounds like the plot of a bad Star Trek episode. And the Shremp says 'I' don't have a sense of hyoomer. Ya gotta admit that ya set yerself up fer that one, Bub. The rest was just natural law taking its course... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat. [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)] Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings. This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore. The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the bedroom. They know us Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant cries. McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more difficult to habituate to, she said. McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow. Tough to test Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their pets' cries capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different cats. The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry as more urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts. When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls decreased significantly. McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked. The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
(snip)_ Again, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I had a friend who was manic-depressive who made a *heroic* effort to get better--from one medication to the next, hospitalization, therapy--for many years with no discernible improvement. Finally she decided enough was enough and jumped off a building. She had lots of friends who cared for her deeply and had done everything they could to help. Why couldn't she have died peacefully with them at her side wishing her a good journey? Lying on a table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it? Shouldn't death be considered a part of life? Especially if it's your own? (This is my 50th; see you in a few days.) Happy Birthday to You...Happy Birthday to you, on so on...lalala. Now, Welcome to the other side of 50... Ok, short break; Don't touch that dial... We'll be right back... If you die, while your depressed, won't that make the depression worse, when your, 'lost in space', without the chance to work through the depression, until your next incarnation, which may take forever... But, since forever, when your dead, goes by fast, then no problemo... You'll just need to work on that depressive thingy, next time around... BTW, many times, when these people are so possessed with whatever...they just might need an exorcism...or see a Shaman, who can release these ones, from the 'Suicide Demon'... Something those suicidal bombers, could use as well...a real good exorcism or Shamanic Demon Blow-out... Over and out... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] ‘Impact on World Consciousness!’
Who has had a greater impact on World Consciousness? Maharishi Mahesh Yogi or Dalai Lama? Foolish question, but I put it out, anyway... Think,even the impact, of the Beatles music, The music, after India, many of George Harrison's songs... Many were inspired by Maharishi... (Besides the ‘Sexy Sadie’ tune, which John appoligized for in his last interview)... There are so many areas, seen and unseen, Which Maharishi effected, And still effects, by his teaching... Not to single out Dalia Lama... I have nothing against the man... There’s just not too much of a consciousness changing experience, there... In my humble opinion... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] TM and 2012
Jai Guru Dev FFL, It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole science. The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for context. The June 12 chat. The urgency pops out of that, it is a noble cause we are engaged in,. In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any serious student of human progress would view. A presentation tightly packed as a composite of everything. Evidently, in cause something needs be done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways. Global Chat: http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html Be together etc JGD, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Sunday Morning Drive To College Cove
Here's an inconsequential narrative, but it's illustrated with seven photos that I'm putting into a new album in the Photos section (College Cove), and they are the actual story, or at least, worth looking at for their own sake. These comments only augment them with place names and anecdotal trivia. Last Sunday I went out in the morning to see if there were any waves anywhere. The surf these last few weeks has been small to smallish (waist-high/shoulder-high) but very surfable, particularly for a longboard. But Sunday (and Monday, too, unfortunately) there were no waves anywhere; it was the vast Pacific Lake all up and all down. On Sunday, the last surfbreak I checked out was a spot I've never surfed before, called College Cove. It's just a couple of miles out of the little town of Trinidad and there's a small parking lot at the end of a short gravel road which tees off of a twisty, up-and-down, one lane road, called Stagecoach, that heads north from Trinidad. You take a small trail at the far end of the parking lot through the forest maybe two- or three-hundred yards or so, and there's a little spot to stand in the trees right at the top of the bluff; and from here you can look down and see if the surf is breaking. (see, Photo No. 1.) As you can see for yourself, it was calm and flat, but enticing nonetheless, even if not for surfing. There's a small, stepped trail leading down from the left of the view spot and it wends down the bluff through the trees. Flowers, ferns and foliage of all sorts shoulder the trail the whole way down to the beach. (Photo No. 2.) It's not too far before you glimpse the shorebreak at the bottom of the trail. (Photo No. 3.) College Cove is a lovely arc of soft sand and scattered sea stacks tucked into the redwood and deciduous forest that blankets the hills and valleys that meet the ocean here in Humboldt. This is a view looking south from where the trail empties onto the beach. (Photo No. 4.) Here is another view, looking north while standing among anemone-covered rocks exposed during low tide. (Photo No. 5.) And a sight-line through sea stacks to Trinidad Head. (Photo No. 6.) No one but myself. I walked along the curve of the beach and listened to the gentle crash of tiny waves as they made their own small contribution to the beach -- the lightest and siltiest of sea sand. At the far end of the cove, I started to climb one of the larger stacks, one with trees and brush on top, but after a while I thought better of the idea and made my way back down. As I strolled back to the trail at the other end of the cove I glanced back one more time at the sea and just as I did, the smooth, grey back of a dolphin broke the surface and arced quietly across the still water. I stayed and watched for another few minutes while two porpoises lazily dawdled in the green sea that lapped my feet. Never got that photo. There was work to do Sunday afternoon, jail visits with clients and reviews of police reports in an ongoing trial, and I'd hoped to get some time in the water before all that; but I wasn't dissappointed in the least with the morning that it turned out to be. Got in the truck and headed home. (Photo No. 7.)
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate. In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes that, despite all the gee-whiz technology displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with the observations above, that people will engineer themselves to look very different in the next few hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel all manner of science fiction plots.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012
Doug: I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked to. I could go no farther. This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the Adult Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and contact the nearest deprogramming professional. I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the Window wouldn't let me. How could you sit through that crap? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Jai Guru Dev FFL, It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole science. The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for context. The June 12 chat. The urgency pops out of that, it is a noble cause we are engaged in,. In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any serious student of human progress would view. A presentation tightly packed as a composite of everything. Evidently, in cause something needs be done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways. Global Chat: http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html Be together etc JGD, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by all means check out the DVD they made of Live Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and her prematurely gray hair only made her look more attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously* gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting. I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very likely such innovations will only accelerate. In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes that, despite all the gee-whiz technology displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with the observations above, that people will engineer themselves to look very different in the next few hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel all manner of science fiction plots. Hey, just look at how people have engineered themselves to look today compared to, say, the 1950s. Remember the Superman Series? The people truly looked like they lived on the type of breakfasts that that family in Pleasantville ate every morning. People were top heavy and pasty. Today, the young people are 6-pack-ab like with golden complexions. People today truly look good.
[FairfieldLife] Jedi Knight McChrystal
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175074
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cheney's Assassination Ops
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Seems like Dickie was sending out US military to kill off people he felt were enemies of the state. See, we were living in a dictatorship the last 8 years: Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday when he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military was running an executive assassination ring throughout the Bush years which reported directly to former Vice President Dick Cheney. More here: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Hersh_US_has_been_running_executive_0311.h\ \ tml http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Hersh_US_has_been_running_executive_0311.\ \ html Benizir Bhutto - murdered - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Benazir_Bhutto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Benazir_Bhutto Michael Connell: GOP consultant killed in plane crash was warned of sabotage: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Killed_GOP_pilot_suspected_plane_had_1222.\ \ html http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Killed_GOP_pilot_suspected_plane_had_1222\ \ .html DC Madam: They will make it look like suicide Two high profile escorts, going to go public with evidence, commit suicide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvrgQ5hOM4feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvrgQ5hOM4feature=related Anthrax Gevernment Scientist Bruce Ivins Commits Suicide: http://www.newser.com/story/33915/anthrax-case-scientist-commits-suicide\ \ .html http://www.newser.com/story/33915/anthrax-case-scientist-commits-suicid\ \ e.html There is very good reason to believe that Raymond Lemme (who was barely mentioned by our corporate news media, if mentioned at all) had information shortly before his death, in July 2003, in a Valdosta, Georgia motel room, that could have blown open the plans of George W. Bush and his handlers to win the 2004 Presidential election http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/402 http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/402 Dr David Kelly, a defence ministry biologist and former UN arms inspector - committs suicide http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/20/1058639648013.html http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/20/1058639648013.html Osama Bin Laden killed by Omar Sheikh??? -reported by Benazir Bhutto to have been murdered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg Former Pakistani President, Pervez Musharraf, in his book In the Line of Fire stated that Sheikh was originally recruited by British intelligence agency, MI6, while studying at the London School of Economics. He alleges Omar Sheikh was sent to the Balkans by MI6 to engage in jihadi operations. Musharraf later went on to state, At some point, he probably became a rogue or double agent.[7] http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20476793-601,00.html http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20476793-601,00.html\ \ Daniel Pearl??? OffWorld The plot thickens. CIA linked to Bhutto's murder? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgeq1CuJb0w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgeq1CuJb0w OffWorld
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die? Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint the end of the world. people do get over it. I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued. Life aint like that, it's bitch. Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it? It's painful to see a loved one suffer, painful to watch them die and painful to mourn. Each step of goodbye, hoping the end will not come, knowing it will, brings us closer to our own mortality. Feeling the kinship of humanity and compassion for those bereft of courage at loss, naturally we reach out in friendship to fill the void with wise counsel and protection until the tears have passed. Choice is just around the corner of now, balancing life and death decisions. Knowing we are not alone helps ease the burden of rightly or wrongly choosing an unknown. Even so, no one can choose for you. In the end you will be alone passing into yet another unknown. Interesting observation RD. I tend to think it would be returning to where we came from and, that we might find it familiar. Years back, I wrote a poem about such feelings and, still think it might have some merit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: scienceofabundance wrote: I see nothing on the page you referred to about Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits... The boy pundits see the doctor all the time, according to my sources in Vedic City. Given that there is nothing in the URL you posted about Dr. Lonsdorf related to Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits, it has not relevance. Why did you post it? Your final argument [final two sentences above] remains as it was initially - you have sources. Sources - no evidence.
[FairfieldLife] Solution to the Iranian problem
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/39688/bunker_buster_bomb/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012
Om Dear Shemp, Crap? Oh man you got to stick with it and at least git beyond that sesame street opening. It is foundational stuff. Explains in context what is now his (Hagelin's) part of the movement is about. Eighteen months after Maharishi, seems now there are three prongs working. Hagelin and Lynch going after the secular presentation of TM, the pundit chanting program, And then MUM. This tape is context for them all. Was made sometime before Maharishi died as a statement. Kind of like Hagelin rolled up his sleeves and went headlong for it as a project. Strategically it was sort of a TMmovement unified field theory of mission. In effect, a recapitulation before Maharishi died. Is a lot of large high thinking in it worth an effort to listen. Is pretty special what they are up to in context. To get through it, could play it as background whilst you work otherwise is one way of getting through it. Of course is bad enough here that we have people trying to write on FFL who are not even practcing meditators, but at least folks could get on one page together by listening together to Dr. John Hagelin this way. Could proly do the world some lot of good. The science evidently says it would be even better if people would actually do their spiritual meditation practices. With Best Regards, -D in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: Doug: I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked to. I could go no farther. This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the Adult Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and contact the nearest deprogramming professional. I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the Window wouldn't let me. How could you sit through that crap? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Jai Guru Dev FFL, It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole science. The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for context. The June 12 chat. The urgency pops out of that, it is a noble cause we are engaged in,. In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any serious student of human progress would view. A presentation tightly packed as a composite of everything. Evidently, in cause something needs be done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways. Global Chat: http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html Be together etc JGD, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?
Not if they've been doing sadhana for awhile. They should be at least judging matters as lines on water. I learned years ago not to judge anything on how other people think. This came when as a high school jazz musician back in the 1960s that the public cared little for good music so I cared little for them. This BTW is very typical of musicians and artists period. I agree with much of what you're saying. Everyone has their own personal taste for a particular music genre. I myself used to play the alto saxophone in a college class. I enjoyed the jazz numbers we did, particularly those by Neil Hefti (such as Li'l Darlin). The key to better living is take life as it comes and not be fettered by one's own perceptions of what the good life should be, nor other people's concept of the good life should be. In other words, the phenomenal world will always be changing and is not and cannot be perfect as it should be. Hell no. You SHOULD be cutting through the world regardless of how it is from the platform of silence. It's nothing but an interplay of energy anyway and a dream. BUT that doesn't mean that you shouldn't contribute your part to making it a better world and that might be taking a pro-active role for change. We can just let a bunch of dumbass billionaires ruin the world. I agree with what you say. Perhaps, MMY's heaven on earth would come soon enough.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012
Heh, it's just a 162 MB WMV file. Right click on it and save it to a folder. Then you can go to any point in the video. shempmcgurk wrote: Doug: I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked to. I could go no farther. This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the Adult Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and contact the nearest deprogramming professional. I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the Window wouldn't let me. How could you sit through that crap? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Jai Guru Dev FFL, It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole science. The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for context. The June 12 chat. The urgency pops out of that, it is a noble cause we are engaged in,. In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any serious student of human progress would view. A presentation tightly packed as a composite of everything. Evidently, in cause something needs be done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways. Global Chat: http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html Be together etc… JGD, -Doug in FF To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide. See link http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\ Let me see if I've got this straight: * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal cancers and wishing to die with some semblance of dignity and in each others' arms instead of dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance. The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural tendency to judge matters according to what other people think. For that matter, they make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created for themselves. In vedic terms, these are all maya, or false images of water on the desert floor. John, assuming that you truly believe this: 1. Are you not a human being? 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of? 3. Do you not have emotions? 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself? 5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your* thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images? Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one* of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its supposed value are merely maya, or false images? If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth. Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya, and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation. IMHO, human beings in their present physiological makeup are capable of perceiving the Truth. It just takes some effort and willingness to realize one's true potential. Guru Dev once said that human beings are in a better position than the demigods because we can still make progress. On the other hand, the demigods are already immersed in celestial life that they cannot make any more progress towards Unity Consciousness. By the way, the photos were fantastic. See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the point that you were really making without realizing what it was: [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Bubble bursting sequence] [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence] [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
[FairfieldLife] 'Congrats to Goldman Sacks! from Snoop...'
Hey~It's Snoop, gettin' down, with ya'all Yo, you guy's at the Sacks, wow, that's all I can say...is OMG... Yo, you guy's have no Shame! Yo, yo, yo...man, you dudes take the cake... You taken Mr. Pres. for a ride? That ain't nice, now is it? Hey, yo...wus up, you ain't fools, for sure...you ain't some kind of fools, now, is you? A billion here, a billion there Yo, who's countin' anyway? Yo, you know who's countin'... mr. satan? Yo, I'm Out... Snoop.
[FairfieldLife] 'Tex/Mexican Weed War Heats Up'
Heading down to the Mafia abyss... A powerful Mexican drug cartel has unleashed a killing spree against the authorities in a challenge to the leadership of the President in his home state. The bodies of a dozen federal anti-drug agents were found on a mountain highway in Michoacán, the home state of Felipe Calderón, on Monday. The killing of the agents was the worst loss of life in a single attack since President Calderón took office in 2006, taking the war between the narcotics gangs and the Government into uncharted territory. Their murders were the boldest of at least ten reprisal attacks since Arnoldo Rueda Medina, nicknamed La Minsa, was arrested on Saturday. He is reputedly the second-in-command of La Familia cartel in Michoacán. Related Links * Slabs of cocaine found inside frozen sharks * Troops hold Mexican officials in drug war sweep * Drug lord's Forbes entry proves crime does pay Six federal police officers and two soldiers were also killed in attacks on police stations and hotels where anti-drug agents were staying. The surge in violence marks a potential shift in Mexico’s drug wars, which have claimed 11,000 lives during the presidency of Mr Calderón, who ordered the army to intervene. Ciro Gomez Leyva, a columnist for the newspaper Milenio, described the killings as a Mexican version of the Tet offensive in Vietnam in 1968. “In the war against the narcos, Saturday, July 11, seems like a kind of Tet offensive, the synchronised action by South Vietnamese guerrillas and the North Vietnamese Army against US troops at the end of January 1968 that, despite being characterised as a military disaster, created the perception that the otherwise invincible US Army would never win in Vietnam,” he wrote. The perception that the war against drugs is being lost is pervasive. A poll published in Milenio said that only 28 per cent of Mexicans believed that the Government was winning, and more than half thought that it was losing. Mr Calderón said: “The criminals will not be able to intimidate the federal Government. In this battle we will not give up, we will not hesitate, because what is at stake is Mexico’s peace and safety.” Michoacán, on the Pacific coast, has become a battleground because it controls routes into the United States. It is also one of Mexico’s main producers of marijuana, opium poppies and synthetic drugs. Mr Rueda was arrested in the Michoacán capital, Morelia. He is allegedly the right-hand-man to the reputed boss, Nazario Moreno Gonzalez, known as El Mas Loco, or the Craziest One. Within hours of the arrest, gunmen from La Familia, armed with rifles and grenades, ambushed federal forces in seven cities. Some of the attacks took place near tourist sites such as the arts-and-crafts centre of Patzcuaro and Zitacuaro, which is famous for its monarch butterflies. In the most brutal attack, eleven men and one woman agent were abducted while off duty. Their bodies were found stacked on the highway with death threats that read: “La Familia, join its ranks or leave” and “Let’s see if you try to arrest another one”. La Familia has penetrated the power structure, allegedly obtaining protection from police and politicians. Seven mayors, one former mayor and a state prosecutor are being held after a federal police sweep of allegedly corrupt politicians in May. An arrest warrant has been issued for Julio Godoy, the half brother of a state Governor. Mr Godoy was elected to Congress last week as a member of the Democratic Revolution Party. Analysts said that the killings were not necessarily a sign of the cartel’s strength, but were an escalation of the battle to contain them. “This marks an important change in the drug war in that they are attacking federal forces directly,” Jorge Chabat, a drug expert, said. “It also suggests the capture of this person has affected the operations of the cartel. It was a major blow and this is a reaction out of weakness, not strength.” In separate Mexican drug violence, six gunmen were killed on Tuesday in the northern city of Monterrey. Gunmen killed the mayor of Namiquipa in Coahuila and four police officers were kidnapped in Piedras Negras. In Tabasco state on the Gulf coast, prosecutors charged five alleged Gulf cartel hitmen with allegedly killing two policemen and eighteen of their relatives in February and May. A drugs trade worth billions and severed heads on the dance floor • Every year Mexican cartels smuggle illegal drugs worth about $40 billion (£24 billion) into the United States, the world’s biggest market for narcotics. Mexico is a major source of heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana — and a key transit country for the vast amounts of cocaine that are transported over the border • In 2008, 6,000 people died in drug violence in Mexico, according to President Calderón — almost double the 3,042 deaths that were recorded in 2007 • About 95 per cent of the killings were
[FairfieldLife] Sleep monitoring alarm clock
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/technology/personaltech/16pogue.html http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/technology/personaltech/16pogue.html ...get yourself a Zeo alarm clock. That's expensive, sure, but this one does a few things your basic Wal-Mart http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/wal_mart_stores_i\ nc/index.html?inline=nyt-org special doesn't do. It comes with an elastic headband, which you're supposed to wear to bed each night. In its center, resting against the skin of your forehead, there's a little transmitter pod, something like a digital watch without the band. All night long, this thing measures your brainwaves and transmits them wirelessly to the clock on your nightstand. When you wake, you put the headband back onto its charging shelf on the clock. The screen comes to life, showing you a very cool graph of your night. You can walk through it using arrow keys. The clock, and the graph, indicate where you were at each five-minute interval: awake, in light sleep, in REM sleep or in deep sleep. You can also step through screens that display your sleep-cycle tallies in huge digital numbers: 2:54 REM, 0:35 deep and so on.