[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!

2009-07-15 Thread Robert
 (snip)
 I'm actually
 rather a fan of many of Osho's discourses that I've
 read; he's one of the most articulate teachers I've
 encountered. (He didn't like Maharishi much, but then
 Maharishi didn't like him much either. Pretty much
 par for the course among competing gurus.)
(snip)
I remember, I was on my way to visit his ashram, one time, back in the 1980's, 
but never made it there...(so, here's the intuitive hearsay...)

This is my take on Maharishi and Osho:
 'Mirror Opposites of Each Other'...

Maharishi claimed that Rajneesh, became enlightened, spontaneously, and didn't 
come from a tradition, so he didn't have a structure program to help other's 
get to the state of enlightenment...

Also, the gross, display of idolatry, with Rajneesh, with those expensive 
English cars...and the weird lady that took over the ashram, and the murderous 
plot to poison some of the people in the adjacent town in the State of 
Oregon...Rajneesh, was eventually drummed out of the United States, and died, 
feeling that he was poisoned by the C.I.A.

Rajneesh was into all kinds of 'sexual freedom', which included orgies, with 
him watching, to see if everything was going well

Srange, for a Guru to be so blantantly voyeuristic...
Anyway, we can see what happened with his movement, and the TM 
movement...although, it is what it is, at least, compared to Oshos stuff, it 
seems stableand more on track, to create world peace and deep understanding 
of consciousness, for the masses...and even though we all think that Deepak is 
kind of strange, at least he is also expanded the knowledge for the sleeping 
masses...
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[FairfieldLife] Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread Meera Watts
Dear All, 
I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years
back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing
it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it
either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I
am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to
find out more. 
Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net.
Let me explain...
One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try
and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what
you want in life.
This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose
focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in
the way, you know?
All that is about to change!
Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what
you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a
movie
I'm NOT kidding.
The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think
you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot
of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one
and will share with you once it's done.
Cheers!
Meera
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin

2009-07-15 Thread Robert
 (snip)
 One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that
 deserves our attention  
 (snip)
Turk(Barry) is an excellent movie reviewer, and also, gives a sense of what is 
like in Europe...
He also, is excellent at pushing people's buttons, to have them, perhaps, think 
or feel more deeply, on why they might feel so challenged by his comments...
He is certainly a dedicated writer, of this rag-tag group, and I wouldn't 
underestimate his ability, to come up with some pretty wild spins, and 
observations of  everyday occurrences...
He is also, one of the only people in the world, who has actually witnessed 
someone levitating!
Turqs bag of tricks is almost unlimited!
And his subtle removal of masks...
As M.J. would exclaim, 'Who's Bad?!'

r.g.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

2009-07-15 Thread guyfawkes91
 
 Here's some of the metals in it:
 Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur)
 Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust)
 Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium)
 Vanga bhasma (tin)
 
 Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken...


So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as hatters they're 
really quite accurate. The term as mad as a hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) 
came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with 
hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad.

It explains a lot.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 To All:
 
 A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See link
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world

Let me see if I've got this straight:

* Believing that myths and fairy tales from
the past define reality and that if science
doesn't recognize that reality then science
is wrong is knowledge.

* Believing that the position of a bunch of
planets (leaving several out) defines how a
person's life is going to turn out is 
knowledge.

* Believing that the teacher who promised 
enlightenment in 5-8 years and never was
able to produce a single case of enlighten-
ment in 40 years was always right and was
a great saint is knowledge.

* Believing that homosexuality is perverse 
and low-vibe but being celibate and terrified 
of women is high-vibe is knowledge.

* Believing that someone who is old enough to
be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is
acting like a teenybopper while acting like 
a pre-adolescent whose whole idea of sex is 
nothing but idealized fantasy oneself is 
knowledge. 

Whereas:

* Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.

Yeah, right.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA lists MAPI US lead contaminated products

2009-07-15 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 Despite the fact that MAPI claims they test for metals, at least two  
 products have lead in them according to the JAMA article Lead,  
 Mercury, and Arsenic in US- and Indian-Manufactured Ayurvedic  
 Medicines Sold via the Internet. Who knows how many other MAPI  
 products are similarly tainted? And these aren't even the product with  
 heavy metals listed as ingredients!
 
 The two products that were shown (in this sampling) to have lead  
 contamination were Vital Lady and (LOL) Worry Free.
 
 http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/300/8/915.pdf



That settles it, I'm going to stop taking Vital Lady immediately!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:

  (snip)
  One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that
  deserves our attention  
  (snip)

Before asking that, one might ask why (other than
projection of their own desires) Barry might WANT
your attention, let alone think he deserves it.

Barry has said many times here that he's writing
for himself, for the sheer pleasure of writing and
for the occasional entertainment value of seeing
how people react *or* not react to that writing.

But again it comes down to Don't believe what I
say...just watch. PAY ATTENTION to who on this
forum complains and bitches and moans when they
post something and no one replies, or they reply
in a way that takes the original post off on a 
tangent. I think you'll find that that isn't me.
I think you'll find, in fact, that it's the
complainant above.

 Turk(Barry) is an excellent movie reviewer, and also, 
 gives a sense of what is like in Europe...

A very warped, highly subjective sense of what it
is like in Europe *for me*. If anyone happens to
enjoy that very warped, highly subjective snapshot,
that's their business. 

 He also, is excellent at pushing people's buttons, to 
 have them, perhaps, think or feel more deeply, on why 
 they might feel so challenged by his comments...

Good perception. Take the little exercise that the
complainant above fell for yesterday. I didn't know
exactly how many posts she made during that period 
of time that were *not* expressing her pleasure at 
someone else's humiliation or misfortune, and I 
didn't care. I started checking, found none in the
first 20 posts or so, and got bored with it. My
only purpose in suggesting the whole bet was to
see whether I could get *HER* to do it. And that
was interesting *only* because of your insightful
sentence above, Robert.

I wanted to see whether -- having been suckered 
into going through all of her posts for the last
month or so and *realizing* how many of them were
all about her gloating over someone else's humili-
ation or misfortune, and how few involved her
expressing pleasure at anything human and real --
she would LEARN anything from this.

She did not. All she saw in the exercise was yet
another attempt to scream I won, and Gotcha.

That's pretty pathetic. 

By contrast, look at Bob Brigante's posts today.
Having been once again placed on a Watch List
of 30-year meditators and pointed at as what he
is -- an EXAMPLE of what TM produces -- he seems
to have LEARNED something. He has posted a bunch
of positive stuff. Personally, I happen to believe
that much of it is positive propaganda, but I am
not going to rag on it because I appreciate his
gesture. Having been pointed out as an example
of what TM produces, he posted some *positive*
things. Good for him.

What has the complainant above done?

Only attacked more, and continued to play Gotcha.

She has learned NOTHING from this whole exercise.
Having gone through it, she will probably spend 
*all 50** of her posts this week playing Gotcha, 
while thinking she's winning. And she'll do the
same thing next week, and the next. As I said, 
pathetic.

 He is certainly a dedicated writer, of this rag-tag 
 group, and I wouldn't underestimate his ability, to 
 come up with some pretty wild spins, and observations 
 of everyday occurrences...

I don't know about dedicated. Chained to the
computer is more like it. :-)

I work mainly at home, writing XML and code that
demands long compile and publication times. It 
is not unusual for me to spend 10 minutes sitting
and waiting for every hour I spend writing. So 
during those down time periods I catch up on
FFL and several other forums I participate in. I
do this for fun, and the way that my French co-
workers take cigarette breaks. ( My boss has no
problem with this, because he smokes and knows
that his cigarette breaks constitute far more
down time than my Internet breaks. )

During these Internet breaks yes, I *delight*
in putting wild spins on things. Where's the 
fun in seeing stuff the way that others see it?
What's to be LEARNED from seeing or describing
things the way that others see them?

 He is also, one of the only people in the world, who 
 has actually witnessed someone levitating!

Actually, to clarify, I am one of thousands who
have witnessed someone levitating, and that's
speaking only of Frederick Lenz - Rama. 

 Turqs bag of tricks is almost unlimited!
 And his subtle removal of masks...

One of the benefits of studying with Frederick
Lenz - Rama is that he was the polar opposite
of Maharishi. Maharishi was all about heaping
praise on students to get them to do things.
Tell them they're great and they'll give him
money. Tell them they're the most important
people on the planet and they won't notice that
none of them are enlightened yet. There was no
pressure to ever CHANGE around Maharishi. You
could stay stuck in the same ruts for decades,
and as evidenced here, many did. 

Rama was a button-pusher. In that 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

2009-07-15 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 no_re...@... wrote:

  
  Here's some of the metals in it:
  Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur)
  Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust)
  Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium)
  Vanga bhasma (tin)

That's the good thing about ayurveda: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound 
of cure.

Funny thing is, I was on a course in east europe once and someone
said that all the ayurvedic stuff on sale was direct from India 
and had all the precious metals in it that they aren't allowed to export. We 
all got excited about being able to buy the real thing
and loaded up with bottles and jars of stuff that promised all sorts of magical 
transformations. [Sigh] How innocent and trusting we were.

At least I didn't get ill from anything, didn't notice any effect
at all actually. Probably safer that way.

When Amrit Kalash (Nectar of Immortality)went on sale the TMO 
did a big questionaire in the UKs sidha community hoping to 
get amazing tales of transformation, everyone was taking it 
of course. I mean, you would take it with all the fanfare that surrounded it. 
The reported results were so disappointing that
the whole thing was quietly shelved and forgotten about. An 
amusing case of hiding the research that doesn't fit your claims.
It never did anything for me. My dog wouldn't eat it either.




  Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken...
 
 
 So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as hatters they're 
 really quite accurate. The term as mad as a hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) 
 came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with 
 hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad.
 
 It explains a lot.


The original Mad Hatter was from my home town.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote:

 When Amrit Kalash (Nectar of Immortality)went on sale the TMO 
 did a big questionaire in the UKs sidha community hoping to 
 get amazing tales of transformation, everyone was taking it 
 of course. I mean, you would take it with all the fanfare that 
 surrounded it. The reported results were so disappointing that
 the whole thing was quietly shelved and forgotten about. An 
 amusing case of hiding the research that doesn't fit your claims.

Every questionnaire is the perfect opportunity
for the answer we have already prepared.  :-)

 It never did anything for me. My dog wouldn't eat it either.

Once in Santa Fe I was walking the two dogs who
now live with me (they were my former girlfriend's
dogs at the time) and we passed a building at which
a locally-famous spiritual teacher was giving
darshan. There were crowds of people standing 
outside waiting for this guy to arrive. 

Curious, I let the dogs off the leash and let them
wander around while I sat on a bench and waiting for
this guy to arrive, so that I could check out his
aura and see what I thought about him. They are
people dogs, and were well-behaved. The guy fin-
ally arrived and did the humbly accepting flowers
from his followers thang the way Maharishi used
to do, so I was able to sit there and check him
out. I was seriously underwhelmed...no phwam! or
energy at all, and his act seemed to consist of 
spending the most time with the people who fawned 
over him the most. I hear that once inside, that
was his act as well, but I can't say for sure 
because I was not the least tempted to go inside. 

But there was another reason I wasn't tempted to
check this guy out any further. My dogs took one 
look at this guy and started barking at him. Their
hair bristled and they treated him the way they
would have treated a coyote. I had to drag them
away to keep them from biting him.

About six months later, I read that the spiritual
teacher in question had been convicted of massive
fraud and sexual inappropriateness (including rape)
with many of his followers, both male and female. 
He did time in prison. Obviously, the jurors per-
ceived him differently than his former followers 
had.

Me, I wasn't surprised to read this. Dogs know 
things that we mere humans don't.





[FairfieldLife] Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread davidpalmer108

I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.


Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
blemishes.


But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.


By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK


Jai Guru Dev
David




[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Beach Boys to play FF?

2009-07-15 Thread Dick Mays

http://goldentrianglenewspapers.com/articles/2009/07/14/fairfield_daily_ledger/top_stories/doc4a5ce1455f9fa655465985.txt

School board OKs use of grounds for Beach Boys show

By VICKI TILLIS
Ledger news editor
Published: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:49 PM CDT

Fairfield Arts  Convention Center, Fairfield 
Iowa Convention and Visitors Bureau and the David 
Lynch Foundation are presenting a Beach Boys 
concert Sept. 7.


The Fairfield Community School District Board of 
Directors approved the use of the Fairfield 
Middle School grounds for a Beach Boys concert 
Sept. 7.


According to superintendent Don Achelpohl, the 
two-hour concert will be presented on the fields 
west of the middle school the afternoon of Labor 
Day.


“The grass is very solid there ... it used to be a dairy farm,” he said.

Achelpohl said concert organizers - Fairfield 
Arts  Convention Center, Fairfield Iowa 
Convention and Visitors Bureau and the David 
Lynch Foundation - are paying a $500 fee.


The organizers also plan to use the district’s 
school buses and drivers to shuttle people from 
off-site parking to the concert. Achelpohl said 
the organizers will pay for the fuel and the 
overtime salaries of the drivers.


Concert goers will not have access to the tennis 
courts or the middle school building. The 
promoters will have portable toilets available.


The promoters also are providing security and 
guaranteeing no smoking and no drinking, said 
Achelpohl. They also will take care of all the 
clean up.


The district’s support groups, as well as the 
convention center and convention and visitors 
bureau, will have an opportunity to earn revenue 
by selling refreshments during the concert.


For the complete story, see the Tuesday, July 14, 
2009, printed edition of The Fairfield Ledger.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

2009-07-15 Thread Vaj


On Jul 15, 2009, at 3:07 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote:




Here's some of the metals in it:
Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur)
Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust)
Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium)
Vanga bhasma (tin)

Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken...



So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as  
hatters they're really quite accurate. The term as mad as a  
hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) came from a time when hatters  
routinely used mercury for something to do with hats, got mercury  
poisoning and went mad.


It explains a lot.



The tendency in many westerners, Americans in particular, is to think  
'if something is good for you, then more is better'. Unfortunately  
for Ayurvedic siddha medicines like Energol, the opposite is true.  
So someone swallowing pills once or more daily, on a long term basis  
is a recipe for disaster.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!

2009-07-15 Thread gullible fool

 
It sounds like you may need a checking, Rick. Make sure it is by a re-certified 
male governor in a home with proper vastu.
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:


From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:59 PM















From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of ffl...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:40 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!
 









I like WillyTex - he always comes across as time as just the biggest,  most 
huggable bundle of fun I can imagine.

 
He is more fun to read than many others. I find his own unique and 
creative way of trolling to be interesting at times.


 


Nabby too. Where would we be without Nabby? He's as much fun as a barrel of 
monkies.


 






  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread svenssonjack
Ignorance truly is bliss for some people. 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... 
wrote:

 
 I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
 to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
 poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
 I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
 
 
 Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
 boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
 experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
 is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
 blemishes.
 
 
 But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
 path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
 boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
 two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
 The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
 focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.
 
 
 By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK
 
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 David





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 * Believing that someone who is old enough to
 be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is
 acting like a teenybopper

There are many more ways, of course, in which
Barry acts like a teenybopper.

snip
 * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
 cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
 of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
 dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
 doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.

Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the
conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have
cancer, his wife did; and they didn't die in each
other's arms but on beds next to each other,
holding hands), I totally agree with his
perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be
allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place
and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're
ill or not*.

Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
without their beloved partner, or simply because
whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
judgment--was no longer available to them.

(In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
almost deaf.)

Since society is not harmed by a person taking
their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
after death, the individual should be free to decide
whether they want to risk the chance of negative
repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.

The only precautions that need to be taken are to
ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
such a decision.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin

2009-07-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
[I wrote:]
   (snip)
   One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that
   deserves our attention  
   (snip)
 
 Before asking that, one might ask why (other than
 projection of their own desires) Barry might WANT
 your attention, let alone think he deserves it.
 
 Barry has said many times here that he's writing
 for himself, for the sheer pleasure of writing and
 for the occasional entertainment value of seeing
 how people react *or* not react to that writing.

Barry: NOBODY IS FOOLED.

(Well, maybe except for Robert. Ain't that a proud
accomplishment!)

Even Barry's *toadies* know this is bullshit. Saying
it many times here is just another of the many ways
Barry begs for attention.

 But again it comes down to Don't believe what I
 say...just watch. PAY ATTENTION to who on this
 forum complains and bitches and moans when they
 post something and no one replies, or they reply
 in a way that takes the original post off on a 
 tangent. I think you'll find that that isn't me.
 I think you'll find, in fact, that it's the
 complainant above.

NOBODY IS FOOLED. They know I don't do this.

snip
 Good perception. Take the little exercise that the
 complainant above fell for yesterday. I didn't know
 exactly how many posts she made during that period 
 of time that were *not* expressing her pleasure at 
 someone else's humiliation or misfortune, and I 
 didn't care. I started checking, found none in the
 first 20 posts or so, and got bored with it.

NOBODY IS FOOLED. They know Barry *lied*.

They know--as I've pointed out--that he assumed I
would *not* go through 270 pages of the Yahoo message
list, so he thought he was safe in denouncing me as
lacking the self-honesty to check.

But he miscalculated badly, because he forgot about
the other archive.

And then when his lies were exposed, he fell back
on this new lie:

 My
 only purpose in suggesting the whole bet was to
 see whether I could get *HER* to do it. And that
 was interesting *only* because of your insightful
 sentence above, Robert.
 
 I wanted to see whether -- having been suckered 
 into going through all of her posts for the last
 month or so and *realizing* how many of them were
 all about her gloating over someone else's humili-
 ation or misfortune, and how few involved her
 expressing pleasure at anything human and real --
 she would LEARN anything from this.

I learned exactly what I suspected, that Barry had
lied. Not exactly breaking news, to me or anybody
else here.

I know what proportion of my posts I spend doing
what. It isn't accidental.

But let's look at the *additional* lies in Barry's
paragraph above:

First, he omits the category of posts I make that
involve straightforward discussion. I make far more
of those than he does.

Second, I don't gloat over anyone's misfortune.

Third, the *vast* majority of posts I make in which
I do anything remotely like gloating over someone's
humiliation are in response to Barry's posts. He's
the person I humiliate most often, by exposing his
lies, his hypocrisy, his sloppy thinking, his self-
exaltation, and his overall fraudulence. That's why
he hates me.

And that reveals yet another lie: that he Doesn't Give
a Shit what people think of him. If he really didn't
give a shit, how could he possibly be humiliated?

And along those lines, look at how much of the rest
of his post is devoted to attempting to polish his
image and defend himself from criticism.

NOBODY IS FOOLED.

 She did not. All she saw in the exercise was yet
 another attempt to scream I won, and Gotcha.

Didn't scream either one, of course. What happened
was that once again, Barry *LOST*. He was
humiliated. He thought he had a sure bet; he didn't
think he was risking having his lies exposed.

 That's pretty pathetic. 

Says Barry, the inveterate hypocrite, trying to make
readers believe he has something to gloat over (it's
*fine* when he does it, you see), thinking if he
screams I won and Gotcha loudly enough, folks will
think he humiliated me, when they know it was exactly
the reverse.

NOBODY IS FOOLED.

 By contrast, look at Bob Brigante's posts today.
 Having been once again placed on a Watch List
 of 30-year meditators and pointed at as what he
 is --

Notice how carefully Barry phrases the above to
disguise the fact that *the* Watch List is his own
conceit, and that Barry is the only one doing any
pointing.

 an EXAMPLE of what TM produces -- he seems
 to have LEARNED something. He has posted a bunch
 of positive stuff.

No, he hasn't. He's posted the same type of stuff he
usually does, some positive, some negative.

But Barry, controlled by his desperate need *to*
control, spins Bob's posting as the result of Barry's
own actions.

NOBODY IS FOOLED.

snip many more paragraphs of self-justification
from the person who claims he Doesn't Give a
Shit what anybody thinks of him




[FairfieldLife] Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
I've just come back from one of the most pleasant walks
along the Sitges beach I've ever experienced. It was the
same beach, full of the same suntan-oil-covered bodies,
but what made it different this time is that I got to
share the walk with a friend who was here in Sitges for 
a short time.

She was here to give a talk last night at a large con-
ference on the empowerment of women in business, or
something like that. She kindly left my name at the door, 
so I was able to hear it, and it personified everything 
I've been trying to say on this forum about the differ-
ence between real feminists and those who call themselves 
feminists but choose to live their lives as if they were
perpetual victims.

Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of
400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to 
mention men even once. What she spoke about was success
and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred-
ibility because the companies she created made her a 
millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire
now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of 
sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the 
women at the conference could do to become successful 
themselves. 

She had told me on the phone that she wouldn't have time
to chat after her talk, so we met for a quick lunch today
before she hopped on a plane to head off for a month-long
yoga retreat in India. We know each other from the Rama 
trip, which we both spent 14 years in. I watched her grow 
in that movement from a lovely but insecure girl with no 
computer skills to a capable and *very* secure high-tech 
millionaire in a mere ten of those years. But interestingly 
enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, 
or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The 
past never came up period, because for both of us the things 
we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than 
the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as 
if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to 
squeeze in.

And lunch was nice, as we caught up on our respective Nows,
but it was the walk along the beach that made it a wonderful
experience for me. My friend loves life and loves to laugh, 
so walking with her along a Spanish beach full of naked or 
near-naked bodies turned into a non-stop laugh-fest.

We walked along, laughing, enjoying the sun, and having fun.
The only homage to our time together with Rama is that we
spent some time playing Who's pushing it out? That was an
exercise in perception he taught us in which you shift your
state of attention to the place from which you can see other 
people's auras or energy patterns and then see which of them 
are content with keeping their energy to themselves and which
instead feel compelled to push it out to attract attention
from others. Interestingly, we both noticed that it was pri-
marily the tourists (those without tans) who felt compelled 
to push it out and troll for attention; the Spanish seemed 
more content to keep their shakti in their Speedos or bikini 
bottoms and not seem to *need* a lot of external attention. 

The fact that about half of the women were wearing *only*
bikini bottoms became the next subject for merriment. I have
been here so long that I rarely even notice that the beach
is one long boob-fest, but for some reason my friend seemed
to be actively checking out the beach boobage, as if she found
it utterly fascinating. I know from experience ( before she 
was married ) that she is far from breast-challenged herself, 
so I knew that she wasn't conducting this boob inventory out 
of envy. So I asked what she *was* checking for, and she said 
(cracking up), Authenticity, as measured by compliance with 
the law of gravity.

It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it. 
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the 
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her 
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying 
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones 
with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one 
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra 
of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity.

Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish 
seemed to be in their bodies, especially as compared to the
women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from 
England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the
room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could
not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN 
UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of* 
my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of 
success. 

It's 

[FairfieldLife] Red State's Jackie and Dunlap on Sarah Palin

2009-07-15 Thread do.rflex


You Betcha!

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKryG50KMeE



[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread shempmcgurk
Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of 
your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the 
video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money.

Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawa...@... wrote:

 Dear All, 
 I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years
 back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing
 it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it
 either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I
 am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to
 find out more. 
 Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net.
 Let me explain...
 One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try
 and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what
 you want in life.
 This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
 Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose
 focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in
 the way, you know?
 All that is about to change!
 Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what
 you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a
 movie
 I'm NOT kidding.
 The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think
 you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
 Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
 http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
 You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot
 of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one
 and will share with you once it's done.
 Cheers!
 Meera





[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of 
 your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of 
 the video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money.
 
 Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawatts@ wrote:
 
  Dear All, 
  I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched few years
  back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing
  it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it
  either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I
  am talking about Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to
  find out more. 
  Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net.
  Let me explain...
  One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try
  and get your inner game finely tuned so you actually can achieve what
  you want in life.
  This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
  Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose
  focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in
  the way, you know?
  All that is about to change!
  Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what
  you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a
  movie
  I'm NOT kidding.
  The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think
  you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
  Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
  http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
  You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you will see lot
  of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one
  and will share with you once it's done.
  Cheers!
  Meera
 

She sounds like a spammer to me...maybe Rick should look into it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon 
 reading this entry of your's and then clicking on 
 the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the 
 video) was whether or not your promotion of mind 
 movies earns you money.
 
 Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?

I noticed that, too. Very *impolite* site, nerd-wise.
Any site that doesn't allow you to gracefully close
its tab without preventing you from doing it so that
it can try several more times to sell you something 
is a scam.

It should probably be mentioned as well that the last
person on this forum who was trying to sell us on the
high spiritual value of The Secret is the TM TB who 
attempted to get Fairfield Life shut down by posting 
porn to it and then complaining to the Yahoo adminis-
trators about it. I wonder what *he* was trying to 
attract.  :-)


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawatts@ wrote:
 
  Dear All, 
  I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched 
  few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to 
  us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. 
  Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I 
  am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about 
  Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to find 
  out more. 
  Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net.
  Let me explain...
  One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can 
  be to try and get your inner game finely tuned so you 
  actually can achieve what you want in life.
  This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
  Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just 
  seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like 
  too much garbage gets in the way, you know?
  All that is about to change!
  Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your 
  sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET 
  IT--simply by watching a movie
  I'm NOT kidding.
  The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. 
  I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
  Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
  http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
  You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you 
  will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in 
  process of creating my one and will share with you once 
  it's done.
  Cheers!
  Meera
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wg...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?
 
 She sounds like a spammer to me...maybe Rick should look into it.


Even if she is, my bet is there are people here 
who are gullible enough to not only buy whatever is 
being sold but to moodmake benefits from it. 

For example, our new member from the UK might be
interested. Anyone who can live in Scorpion nation
and yet still believe that dear Maharishi was always 
positive and that the TMO never expresses negativity
will buy ANYTHING.

:-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread guyfawkes91
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... 
wrote:

 
 I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
 to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
 poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
 I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
 
I agree, the level of rudeness in this group is nearly as embarrassing as the 
level of pomposity and obsequity in the official TMO. 

Post some intelligent comments and help to improve the signal to noise ratio.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!

2009-07-15 Thread WillyTex
Robert wrote:
 Rajneesh was into all kinds of 'sexual
 freedom', which included orgies, with
 him watching...

You need to stop posting misinformation,
Robert. I've seen no evidence that Rajneesh
observed or participated in any orgies.

Apparently the Rajneesh had a single girlfriend,
Vivek, for over ten years. None of these accounts
listed below have anything to say about Rajneesh's
private sex life, so exactly, how would you be
knowing?

'Bhagwan: The God That Failed'
By Hugh Milne
St. Martins Press, 1987

'My Life in Orange: Growing Up with the Guru'
by Tim Guest
Harvest Books, 2005

'Place Called Antelope - Rajneesh Story'
by Donna Quick
August Press, 1995

'Karma Cola: Marketing the Mystic East'
By Gita Mehta
Vintage Books, 1994




[FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot

2009-07-15 Thread WillyTex
scienceofabundance wrote:
 I see nothing on the page you referred
 to about Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits...

The boy pundits see the doctor all the time,
according to my sources in Vedic City. But,
the boys DO NOT SMOKE. There is nothing in
the Vedas that commands boy pundits in
Fairfield, Iowa, to smoke.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon 
  reading this entry of your's and then clicking on 
  the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the 
  video) was whether or not your promotion of mind 
  movies earns you money.
  
  Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?
 
 I noticed that, too. Very *impolite* site, nerd-wise.
 Any site that doesn't allow you to gracefully close
 its tab without preventing you from doing it so that
 it can try several more times to sell you something 
 is a scam.
 
 It should probably be mentioned as well that the last
 person on this forum who was trying to sell us on the
 high spiritual value of The Secret is the TM TB who 
 attempted to get Fairfield Life shut down by posting 
 porn to it and then complaining to the Yahoo adminis-
 trators about it. I wonder what *he* was trying to 
 attract.  :-)
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Meera Watts meerawatts@ wrote:
  
   Dear All, 
   I am not sure if you remember the DVD The Secret launched 
   few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to 
   us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. 
   Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I 
   am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about 
   Law of attraction. You can search the net for it to find 
   out more. 
   Yesterday I came across Mind Movies while surfing the net.
   Let me explain...
   One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can 
   be to try and get your inner game finely tuned so you 
   actually can achieve what you want in life.
   This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
   Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just 
   seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like 
   too much garbage gets in the way, you know?
   All that is about to change!
   Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your 
   sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET 
   IT--simply by watching a movie
   I'm NOT kidding.
   The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. 
   I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
   Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
   http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
   You can go to YouTube and search for mind movies and you 
   will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in 
   process of creating my one and will share with you once 
   it's done.
   Cheers!
   Meera
  
 


Yikes! Chain letters on YouTube? Meera, I wish you well. I hope you this didn't 
cost you money. 

Like burning leaves before the fall
Hope moves the heart to chance
Internet sharks are everywhere
Offer riches look askance

World of jaded beings clamor
Greed exchanged for your tears
Hold child close give protection 
Whisper love soothing fears

raunchydog






 There's a sucker born every minute P.T. Barnum 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

The fact that about half of the women were wearing *only*
bikini bottoms became the next subject for merriment. I have
been here so long that I rarely even notice that the beach
is one long boob-fest, but for some reason my friend seemed
to be actively checking out the beach boobage, as if she found
it utterly fascinating. I know from experience ( before she
was married ) that she is far from breast-challenged herself,
so I knew that she wasn't conducting this boob inventory out
of envy. So I asked what she *was* checking for, and she said
(cracking up), Authenticity, as measured by compliance with
the law of gravity.


I don't have much body-envy myself, but I still do
have some fairly significant body issues.  Maybe my
next vacation (Ha!  What's that?) should be in Spain.


It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it.
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity.


Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.  Hope it
was worth it... God only
knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.
This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother
of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons,
you might say, to wonder about this garbage...
3 excellent reasons, in fact.


Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish
seemed to be in their bodies,


Now *that's* what I'm jealous of!


especially as compared to the
women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from
England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the
room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could
not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN
UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of*
my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of
success.


Good idea.  Think I'll go lighten up into a cup of coffee and a
cinnamon roll.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  * Believing that someone who is old enough to
  be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is
  acting like a teenybopper
 
 There are many more ways, of course, in which
 Barry acts like a teenybopper.
 
 snip
  * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
  cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
  of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
  dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
  doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.
 
 Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the
 conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have
 cancer, his wife did; and they didn't die in each
 other's arms but on beds next to each other,
 holding hands), I totally agree with his
 perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be
 allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place
 and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're
 ill or not*.
 
 Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
 human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
 unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
 life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
 without their beloved partner, or simply because
 whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
 judgment--was no longer available to them.
 
 (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
 ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
 almost deaf.)
 
 Since society is not harmed by a person taking
 their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
 after death, the individual should be free to decide
 whether they want to risk the chance of negative
 repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.
 
 The only precautions that need to be taken are to
 ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
 such a decision.



I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
the end of the world. people do get over it.

I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
Life aint like that, it's bitch.

Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
 She was here to give a talk last night at a large con-
 ference on the empowerment of women in business, or
 something like that.

Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why
does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the
empowerment of women in business?

Why do women have to have a special conference of
their own to hear about how to empower themselves?

Are there any conferences for men only about how
they can empower themselves?

The very notion of empowerment automatically 
implies its opposite, an existing lack of power.

snip
 Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of
 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to 
 mention men even once. What she spoke about was success
 and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred-
 ibility because the companies she created made her a 
 millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire
 now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of 
 sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the 
 women at the conference could do to become successful 
 themselves.

It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or
misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of
women about female empowerment means women have 
things they must overcome before they can become 
successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these
obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist.

That there have to be conferences for women only
about how they can empower themselves to achieve
success in business, when there are no such
conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words
about sexism and misogyny.

But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about
how women can empower themselves, and talk about
how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for
them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor
is one more real feminism than the other. They're
two sides to the same coin.

But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism
and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They
don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as
much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how
to empower themselves to overcome it.

First, though, they need to *recognize* it in 
themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously
down that river in Egypt.

snip
  But interestingly 
 enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, 
 or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The 
 past never came up period, because for both of us the things 
 we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than 
 the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as 
 if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to 
 squeeze in.

A different topic, but that last sentence is just too
funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum.
Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting
than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately.

(Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody
recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he
was putting up a couple of real feminists while they
gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how
they made a special arrangement for him to attend a
party for the participants where he stood in the back
of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that
post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points
in the context of a *very* similar situation to the
one he describes above.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... 
wrote:

 
 I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
 to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
 poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
 I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
 
 
 Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
 boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
 experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
 is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
 blemishes.
 
 
 But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
 path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
 boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
 two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
 The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
 focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.


Greetings cloudy-minded Scorpion! I think your 'movement' viewpoint
will provide an interesting counterpoint to some of our debates.
Just don't take anything personally. 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
  ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
  on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
  not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it.
  She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
  breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
  about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
  attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
  with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one
  whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
  Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
  of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity.
 
 Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
 them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
 um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.  

I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when
boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't
sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when 
the woman is lying on her back, they tend to 
remain fully at attention, pointing to the 
heavens. It's really not all that attractive. 
I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you 
understand...from other guys ) that real lechers 
can usually tell which are real and which are 
Memorex through several layers of clothing.  :-)

 Hope it was worth it... God only
 knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.

Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
all means check out the DVD they made of Live
Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is
to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections 
of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.

 This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother
 of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons,
 you might say, to wonder about this garbage...
 3 excellent reasons, in fact.

Six, actually.  :-)

Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh...
told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff 
above about real vs. natural also says that 
natural is always better.  :-)

  Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish
  seemed to be in their bodies,
 
 Now *that's* what I'm jealous of!

As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to 
get over.

  especially as compared to the
  women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from
  England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the
  room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could
  not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN
  UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of*
  my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of
  success.
 
 Good idea. Think I'll go lighten up into a cup of coffee 
 and a cinnamon roll.

Whatever works, as far as I can tell. All I know
is that when she first started trying to become
a success in the computer industry my friend 
went the workaholic and serious route. She
worked 70+ hours a week, barely slept, never dated
because she felt she didn't have time to, and 
almost never had any fun. The fascinating thing
was that, as talented as she was, nothing was
working in her business...it wasn't making any
money.

I was concerned enough about her to forcibly drag 
her out of the house one night and take her out 
for a pity movie, because she so obviously 
needed one. After the movie, we ran into Rama, 
who had been in the same movie, although we hadn't
noticed him. He took one look at her and said, 
You are a fucking mess. You need to *chill*, girl. 
Don't come to any seminars [which at that point 
were held every week] until you have gotten laid 
a couple of dozen times and gotten drunk or stoned 
or whatever you used to do for fun and lightened
up. Whatever you are doing is not *working*. So
try something else.

My friend was *far* more of a Rama TB than I was,
so she took this stuff seriously. So seriously
that she was at the next week's seminar, having
done everything he suggested :-), and looking
like a completely different person. It was as if
she had dropped ten years off her age and all the
darkness from her aura. 

Interestingly enough, that's when her business
took off. She never went back to being a worka-
holic, and made sure to maintain a balance between
work and fun from then on, and the bucks started
flowing in. Within a year she sold that first 
company for a million bucks and started another
one. So when she tells women that LIGHTENING
UP can help them to succeed, she is speaking
from experience.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK David a positive voice is most welcome

2009-07-15 Thread WLeed3
Thanks 4 the additional positive voice David Palmer  sweet  tounged voice 
as well. Here so many have left for or to avoid the  negative here  mouths 
less than sweet. Col. Wm. D. Leed III USA Ret.  mostly, whose ancestor on 
Dads side left Yorkshire  Leeds as a Leeds  in 1679  again 82 to come with 
our - your Wm Penn. son of the Adirmal Penn  to Penns woods he a Quaker 
(kundinally rising there) Society of  Friends my ancestor was worse a Puritan 
benn back I have to the mother  land several times. On the cite U mostly use  
the delete button  respond to more happy voices directly.
 
 
In a message dated 7/15/2009 11:35:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
richardhughes...@hotmail.com writes:

--- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 
davidpalmer...@...  wrote:

 
 I came across your group by chance the other  day, and have been trying
 to catch up with your insane banter ever  since. How you treated that
 poor lady who thanked you for letting her  join was quite scandalous, but
 I guess one must expect a tough  initiation from a group like yours.
 
 
 Someone was  recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
 boredom. This is,  of course, true - one is bored of more gross
 experience, and heads to  something more subtle. More refined experience
 is always more  attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
 blemishes.
  
 
 But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw  transcending as a
 path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and  not a retreat from
 boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always  view something from
 two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on  positive or negative.
 The TMO never expresses negativity because  Maharishi said we shouldn't
 focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is  just a waste of energy.


Greetings cloudy-minded Scorpion! I think  your 'movement' viewpoint
will provide an interesting counterpoint to some  of our debates.
Just don't take anything personally.  








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[FairfieldLife] Hardball: Bill Maher - At Least Sanford Was Truly In Love

2009-07-15 Thread do.rflex


Hardball, comedian Bill Maher was hilarious in a discussion of the recent 
Republican sex scandals and his fun tour of the South. 

He's got Chris Matthews rolling on the floor...

Watch: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#31912481 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote:

 I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
 to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
 doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
 Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
 a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
 legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
 are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
 to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
 the end of the world. people do get over it.
 
 I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
 from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
 a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
 and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
 Life aint like that, it's bitch.
 
 Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
 painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
 til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
 that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
 depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
 table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
 can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?


It's painful to see a loved one suffer, painful to watch them die and painful 
to mourn. Each step of goodbye, hoping the end will not come, knowing it will, 
brings us closer to our own mortality. Feeling the kinship of humanity and 
compassion for those bereft of courage at loss, naturally we reach out in 
friendship to fill the void with wise counsel and protection until the tears 
have passed. Choice is just around the corner of now, balancing life and death 
decisions. Knowing we are not alone helps ease the burden of rightly or wrongly 
choosing an unknown. Even so, no one can choose for you. In the end you will be 
alone passing into yet another unknown.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  She was here to give a talk last night at a large con-
  ference on the empowerment of women in business, or
  something like that.
 
 Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why
 does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the
 empowerment of women in business?
 
 Why do women have to have a special conference of
 their own to hear about how to empower themselves?
 
 Are there any conferences for men only about how
 they can empower themselves?
 
 The very notion of empowerment automatically 
 implies its opposite, an existing lack of power.
 
 snip
  Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of
  400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to 
  mention men even once. What she spoke about was success
  and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred-
  ibility because the companies she created made her a 
  millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire
  now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of 
  sexism, or men hating women...only talk of what the 
  women at the conference could do to become successful 
  themselves.
 
 It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or
 misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of
 women about female empowerment means women have 
 things they must overcome before they can become 
 successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these
 obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist.
 
 That there have to be conferences for women only
 about how they can empower themselves to achieve
 success in business, when there are no such
 conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words
 about sexism and misogyny.
 
 But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about
 how women can empower themselves, and talk about
 how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for
 them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor
 is one more real feminism than the other. They're
 two sides to the same coin.
 
 But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism
 and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They
 don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as
 much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how
 to empower themselves to overcome it.
 
 First, though, they need to *recognize* it in 
 themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously
 down that river in Egypt.
 
 snip
   But interestingly 
  enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, 
  or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The 
  past never came up period, because for both of us the things 
  we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than 
  the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as 
  if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to 
  squeeze in.
 
 A different topic, but that last sentence is just too
 funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum.
 Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting
 than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately.
 
 (Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody
 recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he
 was putting up a couple of real feminists while they
 gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how
 they made a special arrangement for him to attend a
 party for the participants where he stood in the back
 of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that
 post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points
 in the context of a *very* similar situation to the
 one he describes above.)


Yep, I remember the last women's conference Barry said he attended as a special 
guest and thought of it as I read this all too familiar theme. As I recall at 
the last conference he said the women were dressed to the nines. What I want 
to know is, how does he keep getting into these women's conferences unless he's 
going in drag? The only thing different about this post is the banter about 
boobs on the beach. The question now is, who is the bigger boob?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
  human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
  unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
  life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
  without their beloved partner, or simply because
  whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
  judgment--was no longer available to them.
  
  (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
  ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
  almost deaf.)
  
  Since society is not harmed by a person taking
  their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
  after death, the individual should be free to decide
  whether they want to risk the chance of negative
  repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.
  
  The only precautions that need to be taken are to
  ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
  such a decision.
 
 I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
 to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
 doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?

Well, all they really have to do is hand over a
sufficient number of the right kind of pills.

 Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
 a search for the personal best cure.

Yeah, but depression *isn't* always curable; and
sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. It's
worth the old college try if one feels up to it, but
the problem with depression is that it saps one's
motivational energy.

In any case, though, with regard to the choice to
die when one isn't really ill, I wasn't thinking of
clinical depression so much as a clear-headed decision
that one has accomplished whatever one wanted to in
life and is unlikely to accomplish anything more
that's new and different and valuable, to oneself or
anyone else. It can come from a place of feeling
satisfied and complete, in other words, rather than
from a feeling of lack.

 I don't think it should
 legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
 are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
 to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
 the end of the world. people do get over it.

But it shouldn't be anyone else's *decision* but
yours.

 I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
 from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
 a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
 and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
 Life aint like that, it's bitch.

I agree, but doesn't that support what I just wrote 
above? Why should you have to hang on until you're 90?
Why not get out while the getting's good? Why should
that be considered a tragedy? Why should death be
something to be avoided at all costs?

If you *want* to continue to live, if you still have
things you want to do, fine. I'd be quite annoyed if
I had to check out any time in the near future. But
if I eventually get to the point that I feel I'm all
done, I'd really like to be able to make a graceful
exit.

 Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
 painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
 til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
 that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
 depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away.

Again, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I had
a friend who was manic-depressive who made a *heroic*
effort to get better--from one medication to the next,
hospitalization, therapy--for many years with no
discernible improvement. Finally she decided enough was
enough and jumped off a building.

She had lots of friends who cared for her deeply and
had done everything they could to help. Why couldn't
she have died peacefully with them at her side wishing
her a good journey?

 Lying on a 
 table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
 can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?

Shouldn't death be considered a part of life? Especially
if it's your own?

(This is my 50th; see you in a few days.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this
 entry of your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching
 about 5 minutes of the video) was whether or not your promotion of
 mind movies earns you money.
 
 Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?

I'd wager that the number in her link is her affiliate number and that her 
intro was only a means of fooling the mods into thinking she's not the spammer 
that she really is. I've put her on moderated status, just in case she decides 
she wants to actually respond to the questions asked of her.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... 
wrote:
 
 Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
 boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
 experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined
 experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect,
 has fewer blemishes.

That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF are deeply 
interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms, and I'm the exact 
opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to no end.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... 
wrote:

 
 I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
 to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
 poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
 I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
 
 
 Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
 boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
 experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
 is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
 blemishes.
 
 
 But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
 path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
 boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
 two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
 The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
 focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.
 
 
 By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK
 
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 David


Hello David,

Most of the negativity on this group comes from our two pets, the disciples of 
the Dalai Lama, the Turq and the Vaj. Well, some call this teacher the Dolly 
Lama but I don't see that as very negative.

Be welcomed and get a badge !
Jai Guru Dev



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it.
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity.


Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.


I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when
boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't
sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when
the woman is lying on her back, they tend to
remain fully at attention, pointing to the
heavens. It's really not all that attractive.
I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you
understand...from other guys ) that real lechers
can usually tell which are real and which are
Memorex through several layers of clothing.  :-)


Well actually I've often wondered if guys are generally
turned on by women who have had significant plastic
surgery--I can't imagine they are.  I know in reverse
that few things for myself are more off-putting than
hearing that a guy has used steroids or other artificial
body aids.  It just ain't sexy.




Hope it was worth it... God only
knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.


Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
all means check out the DVD they made of Live
Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is
to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.


I found it on You Tube--or at least one, with the
guys from Iceland--and I agree...almost preternatural.
Along those same lines (ha!  NPI) have you checked
out what Judy Collins has done lately to her once-
beautiful face?  And supposedly directors don't even
like to work with Nicole Kidman or Cher anymore because
their faces are basically frozen in perpetual smiles...
real emotions are almost impossible to convey when
you've had that much junk injected.  As Curtis said,
it's hard to believe people think this makes them
look better.




This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother
of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons,
you might say, to wonder about this garbage...
3 excellent reasons, in fact.


Six, actually.  :-)


Well I was thinking of everything you
could get done.



Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh...
told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff
above about real vs. natural also says that
natural is always better.  :-)


Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish
seemed to be in their bodies,


Now *that's* what I'm jealous of!


As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to
get over.


Yeah.  We got everything here except what
really counts.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 15, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108  
davidpalmer...@... wrote:


Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined
experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect,
has fewer blemishes.


That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF  
are deeply interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms,  
and I'm the exact opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to  
no end.


Me as well.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread do.rflex


If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points 
to the obvious. It's your cat.

[NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]

Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, 
high-pitched meow, according to the findings.

This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.

The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen McComb 
of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable 
to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the 
bedroom.

They know us

Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
cries.

McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including 
the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more 
difficult to habituate to, she said.

McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also 
made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in 
mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.

Tough to test

Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their 
pets' cries — capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and 
when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different 
cats.

The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all 
of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat 
themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food — 
the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry — as more urgent and less pleasant 
than those made in other contexts.

When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls 
decreased significantly.

McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, 
but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves 
effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats use this 
form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in 
cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those 
living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked.

The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. 

~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Vaj


On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
salsunsh...@... wrote:


On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as original equipment on the body now wearing it.
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
with a hearty There...that woman lying on her back, the one
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation, and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
of our walk, Real boobs obey the law of gravity.


Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.


I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when
boob jobs first became fashionable. They don't
sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when
the woman is lying on her back, they tend to
remain fully at attention, pointing to the
heavens. It's really not all that attractive.
I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you
understand...from other guys ) that real lechers
can usually tell which are real and which are
Memorex through several layers of clothing.  :-)


The technology is constantly improving. There are implants now which  
are adjustable.





Hope it was worth it... God only
knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.


Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
all means check out the DVD they made of Live
Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is
to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.


I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty  
obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range  
of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces  
lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first  
replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at  
this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to  
replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for  
replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your  
own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With  
Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very  
likely such innovations will only accelerate.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
Alex Stanley wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer...@... 
 wrote:
   
 Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
 boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
 experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined
 experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect,
 has fewer blemishes.
 

 That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF are deeply 
 interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms, and I'm the exact 
 opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to no end.
I find it a little boring sometimes but that's because it seems to come 
from a weakly taught perspective.   Also subtle experiences are often 
just that experiences and meant to just be experiences.  They are 
extremely difficult to put into words.  Recently one of the closest 
expressions I've found which was probably way misinterpreted here was 
the other worldliness of the vampires on True Blood though as of 
late the Michelle Forbes character is even more representative of 
tantric powers (though in a dark way and is based on some Greek mythical 
character).

There is also a group here who seems to believe that if you have 
practiced sadhana for many, many years you are no better off than the 
flatlander bumps we bump into day to day in society.   Theoretically 
nothing should be further from the truth.  Yes, that means even with TM 
ones consciousness should have evolved considerably over the years.   
Some people cushion this viewpoint as being elitist but my question is 
why did you practice meditation all these years if you weren't 
interested in self-improvement?  Inevitably you are going to wind up 
levels above the consciousness of the average individual.  But it is a 
compassionate situation as the method is available to anyone who wants it.

One of the points I took with me from SCI was that just because someone 
is bright or expert in a field DOESN'T mean they are enlightened.  They 
are just bright or expert in their field.  When I encountered such 
people in life I watched to see if they really could function that way 
outside of the their field of expertise.  How well did they handle 
abstract thought?   Often I would be surprised then maybe a little 
further unsurprised when I learned (usually after they found I did yogic 
techniques) that they too delved into spiritual realms.  I would have 
never suspected that one techie friend was expert in Tarot but his 
mother is Russian and it was a practiced passed down in the family.  And 
this guy is a big fan of the Skeptical Inquirer.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

2009-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
guyfawkes91 wrote:
  
   
 Here's some of the metals in it:
 Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur)
 Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. rust)
 Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium)
 Vanga bhasma (tin)

 Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken...

 

 So when people refer to the inner circle as being as mad as hatters they're 
 really quite accurate. The term as mad as a hatter (cv Alice in Wonderland) 
 came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with 
 hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad.

 It explains a lot.
There may be far less mercury (which is treated in a special way as to 
not be harmful) in ayurvedic treatments than you probably got from the 
fillings your dentist gave you or possibly in the vaccines you got 
inflicted with.  In rural India I watched an ayurvedic physician play 
with a ball of mercury he had treated to be safe.

Ask for a list of the ingredients from the upcoming Swine Flu vaccine 
they want to foist on us.  I don't know about you I won't take any shot 
unless I have a complete list of ingredients and their amounts in a 
vaccine (and I can usually claim an allergy to something in them, sulfa 
in particular).

I think the inner circle's madness came from something else.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  To All:
  
  A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See link
  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
 
 Let me see if I've got this straight:

 * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
 cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
 of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
 dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
 doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.
 

The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural tendency 
to judge matters according to what other people think.  For that matter, they 
make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created for 
themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all maya, or false images of water on 
the desert floor.

The key to better living is take life as it comes and not be fettered by one's 
own perceptions of what the good life should be, nor other people's concept of 
the good life should be.  In other words, the phenomenal world will always be 
changing and is not and cannot be perfect as it should be.

I'm refraining to make comments on your other ideas since they are off the main 
topic--in other words, they're non-sequitur.

JR





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread John
 I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
 to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
 doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
 Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
 a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
 legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
 are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
 to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
 the end of the world. people do get over it.
 
 I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
 from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
 a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
 and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
 Life aint like that, it's bitch.
 
 Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
 painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
 til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
 that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
 depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
 table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
 can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?


You hit the nail on the head.  I agree with much of what you say here.







[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA lists MAPI US lead contaminated products

2009-07-15 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  Despite the fact that MAPI claims they test for metals, at least two  
  products have lead in them according to the JAMA article Lead,  
  Mercury, and Arsenic in US- and Indian-Manufactured Ayurvedic  
  Medicines Sold via the Internet. Who knows how many other MAPI  
  products are similarly tainted? And these aren't even the product with  
  heavy metals listed as ingredients!
  
  The two products that were shown (in this sampling) to have lead  
  contamination were Vital Lady and (LOL) Worry Free.
  
  http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/300/8/915.pdf
 
 
 
 That settles it, I'm going to stop taking Vital Lady immediately!




All products bought from MAPI in Colorado Springs are lead and other 
contaminant/heavy metal free -- people who bought from the internet from Indian 
sources, including MAPI India, did get lead if they bought Vitalady and 
Worryfree, due to the typical dim bulb management of the TM movement, who 
should have taken complete control over the MAPI name and practices in India, 
but failed to do so.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points 
 to the obvious. It's your cat.
 

**

I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept human 
dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to mark 
their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to 
offend the human masters of the territory.





 [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
 
 Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, 
 high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
 
 This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
 usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
 purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
 these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
 
 The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
 contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen 
 McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more 
 acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected 
 from the bedroom.
 
 They know us
 
 Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
 cries.
 
 McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
 sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including 
 the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more 
 difficult to habituate to, she said.
 
 McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
 would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
 After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
 also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
 communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
 
 Tough to test
 
 Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
 around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
 front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their 
 pets' cries — capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food 
 and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 
 different cats.
 
 The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all 
 of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat 
 themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food — 
 the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry — as more urgent and less 
 pleasant than those made in other contexts.
 
 When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
 leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
 calls decreased significantly.
 
 McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
 purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it 
 proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats 
 use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often 
 develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather 
 than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked.
 
 The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
 Biology. 
 
 ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html





[FairfieldLife] India to issue 1.2 billion biometric ID cards

2009-07-15 Thread bob_brigante

http://snipurl.com/nau78 http://snipurl.com/nau78  
[www_timesonline_co_uk]





[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   To All:
  
   A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
link
  
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\

 
  Let me see if I've got this straight:
 
  * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
  cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
  of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
  dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
  doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.

 The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
 have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
 what other people think.  For that matter, they make
 decisions based on emotions and standards that they
 created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
 maya, or false images of water on the desert floor.

John, assuming that you truly believe this:

1. Are you not a human being?
2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
3. Do you not have emotions?
4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your*
thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images?
Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its
supposed value are merely maya, or false images?

If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting
any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya,
and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.

See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
point that you were really making without realizing what it was:

  [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]


  [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]




  [Bubble bursting sequence]




  [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]




  [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]




[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your 
  cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat.
 
 **
 
 I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that 
 cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly 
 dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in 
 a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to 
 offend the human masters of the territory.

How many times have you shit in their cat box, Bob?

If your answer is Never, then it seems to me that 
marking their territory is working quite well.

:-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study 
  points to the obvious. It's your cat.
  
 
 **
 
 I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept 
 human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to 
 mark their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not 
 to offend the human masters of the territory.
 


The study simply shows that house kitties can display and enhance meowing 
skills to be able to effectively get owners to respond to their needs/wishes. I 
agree that kitties do accept human dominance.



 
 
 
  [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
  
  Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of 
  urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
  
  This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
  usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
  purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
  these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
  
  The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
  contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen 
  McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more 
  acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats 
  ejected from the bedroom.
  
  They know us
  
  Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
  cries.
  
  McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
  sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, 
  including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and 
  thus more difficult to habituate to, she said.
  
  McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
  would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
  After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
  also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
  communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
  
  Tough to test
  
  Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
  around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
  front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record 
  their pets' cries — capturing the sounds made by cats when they were 
  seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings 
  from 10 different cats.
  
  The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not 
  all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had 
  a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively 
  seeking food — the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry — as more 
  urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts.
  
  When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
  leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
  calls decreased significantly.
  
  McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
  purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when 
  it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all 
  cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to 
  most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their 
  owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs 
  might be overlooked.
  
  The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
  Biology. 
  
  ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  * Believing that someone who is old enough to
  be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is
  acting like a teenybopper
 
 There are many more ways, of course, in which
 Barry acts like a teenybopper.
 
 snip
  * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
  cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
  of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
  dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
  doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.
 
 Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the
 conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have
 cancer, his wife did; and they didn't die in each
 other's arms but on beds next to each other,
 holding hands), I totally agree with his
 perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be
 allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place
 and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're
 ill or not*.
 
 Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
 human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
 unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
 life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
 without their beloved partner, or simply because
 whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
 judgment--was no longer available to them.
 
 (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
 ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
 almost deaf.)
 
 Since society is not harmed by a person taking
 their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
 after death, the individual should be free to decide
 whether they want to risk the chance of negative
 repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.
 
 The only precautions that need to be taken are to
 ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
 such a decision.


There are many people in the world, including the couple in question, who think 
like you regardig this topic.  Please, read my comment to Barry's post on this 
thread.

Also, St. Aquinas (he may have gotten it from Plato) came up with a logical 
principle to follow regarding moral questions.  The action that one takes to 
correct or answer a moral question should be inherently good in itself.  If 
the action is inherently evil, then the action should not be taken.  In this 
case, the act of taking one's own life (suicide) is inherently evil.  
Therefore, suicide is not an acceptable moral act to fix the problem, i.e 
suffering due to emotional or physical pain and anguish.













[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

2009-07-15 Thread Marek Reavis
Beautiful photographs.  To see for the first time how that particular event 
happens, step by step, after a lifetime of seeing bubbles bursting is really 
satisfying.

Thanks.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
To All:
   
A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
 link
   
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\
 
  
   Let me see if I've got this straight:
  
   * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
   cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
   of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
   dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
   doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.
 
  The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
  have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
  what other people think.  For that matter, they make
  decisions based on emotions and standards that they
  created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
  maya, or false images of water on the desert floor.
 
 John, assuming that you truly believe this:
 
 1. Are you not a human being?
 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
 3. Do you not have emotions?
 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
 5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your*
 thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images?
 Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
 questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
 one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
 one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
 of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
 single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its
 supposed value are merely maya, or false images?
 
 If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting
 any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
 Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya,
 and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.
 
 See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
 point that you were really making without realizing what it was:
 
   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
 
 
   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
 
 
 
 
   [Bubble bursting sequence]
 
 
 
 
   [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
 
 
 
 
   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
  
   
   
   If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your 
   cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat.
  
  **
  
  I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that 
  cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly 
  dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in 
  a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to 
  offend the human masters of the territory.
 



 How many times have you shit in their cat box, Bob?
 
 If your answer is Never, then it seems to me that 
 marking their territory is working quite well.
 
 :-)





White man speak with fork-ed tongue...



[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

2009-07-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote:

 Beautiful photographs.  To see for the first time how that 
 particular event happens, step by step, after a lifetime 
 of seeing bubbles bursting is really satisfying.
 
 Thanks.

De nada. Details about how these photos were taken are here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1199149/Super-slow-motion-pictures-soap-bubble-bursting-stunning-detail.html


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:

 To All:

 A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
  link

  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\
  
   
Let me see if I've got this straight:
   
* Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.
  
   The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
   have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
   what other people think.  For that matter, they make
   decisions based on emotions and standards that they
   created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
   maya, or false images of water on the desert floor.
  
  John, assuming that you truly believe this:
  
  1. Are you not a human being?
  2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
  3. Do you not have emotions?
  4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
  5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your*
  thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images?
  Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
  questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
  one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
  one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
  of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
  single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its
  supposed value are merely maya, or false images?
  
  If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting
  any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
  Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya,
  and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.
  
  See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
  point that you were really making without realizing what it was:
  
[Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
  
  
[Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
  
  
  
  
[Bubble bursting sequence]
  
  
  
  
[ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
  
  
  
  
[Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread shempmcgurk
I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning.

Sounds like the plot of a bad Star Trek episode.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points 
 to the obvious. It's your cat.
 
 [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
 
 Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, 
 high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
 
 This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
 usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
 purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
 these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
 
 The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
 contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen 
 McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more 
 acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected 
 from the bedroom.
 
 They know us
 
 Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
 cries.
 
 McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
 sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including 
 the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and thus more 
 difficult to habituate to, she said.
 
 McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
 would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
 After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
 also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
 communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
 
 Tough to test
 
 Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
 around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
 front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their 
 pets' cries — capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food 
 and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 
 different cats.
 
 The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all 
 of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat 
 themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food — 
 the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry — as more urgent and less 
 pleasant than those made in other contexts.
 
 When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
 leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
 calls decreased significantly.
 
 McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
 purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it 
 proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all cats 
 use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often 
 develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather 
 than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked.
 
 The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
 Biology. 
 
 ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning.
 
 Sounds like the plot of a bad Star Trek episode.



And the Shremp says 'I' don't have a sense of hyoomer.



 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study 
  points to the obvious. It's your cat.
  
  [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
  
  Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of 
  urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
  
  This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
  usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
  purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
  these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
  
  The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
  contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen 
  McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably more 
  acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats 
  ejected from the bedroom.
  
  They know us
  
  Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
  cries.
  
  McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
  sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, 
  including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and 
  thus more difficult to habituate to, she said.
  
  McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
  would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
  After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
  also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
  communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
  
  Tough to test
  
  Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
  around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
  front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record 
  their pets' cries — capturing the sounds made by cats when they were 
  seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings 
  from 10 different cats.
  
  The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not 
  all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had 
  a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively 
  seeking food — the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry — as more 
  urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts.
  
  When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
  leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
  calls decreased significantly.
  
  McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
  purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when 
  it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not all 
  cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to 
  most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their 
  owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs 
  might be overlooked.
  
  The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
  Biology. 
  
  ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
 





[FairfieldLife] Maddow interview on the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency

2009-07-15 Thread do.rflex


Rachel conducts a very revealing interview with Elizabeth Warren, chair of 
Congressional oversight for TARP, on the newly proposed Consumer Financial 
Protection Agency.

You may be surprised when you see what this protection entails, but you'll 
probably not be surprised at all at how and why the Big Money financial 
industry desperately wants to kill it.

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx1FFdTeak 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow interview on the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency

2009-07-15 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 Rachel conducts a very revealing interview with Elizabeth Warren, chair of 
 Congressional oversight for TARP, on the newly proposed Consumer Financial 
 Protection Agency.
 
 You may be surprised when you see what this protection entails, but you'll 
 probably not be surprised at all at how and why the Big Money financial 
 industry desperately wants to kill it.
 
 Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx1FFdTeak

Why would the 'Big Money Financial Industry' want to support it?
They paid to learn all the tricks of the trade...(Clever Financial Vampires, 
commonly known as MBA's)...
Why would they want to give you protection, from their need to have their 
monthly blood sucking orgies, with interest compounded as often as possible...
r.g.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

2009-07-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
 
  I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning.
  
  Sounds like the plot of a bad Star Trek episode.
 
 
 
 And the Shremp says 'I' don't have a sense of hyoomer.




Ya gotta admit that ya set yerself up fer that one, Bub.  The rest was just 
natural law taking its course...




 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
  
   
   
   If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study 
   points to the obvious. It's your cat.
   
   [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
   
   Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of 
   urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
   
   This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
   usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
   purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans 
   find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
   
   The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
   contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response, said Karen 
   McComb of the University of Sussex. Solicitation purring is probably 
   more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats 
   ejected from the bedroom.
   
   They know us
   
   Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human 
   infant cries.
   
   McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
   sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, 
   including the cry within the purr could make the sound less harmonic and 
   thus more difficult to habituate to, she said.
   
   McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, 
   who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent 
   purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of 
   their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies 
   vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the 
   manipulative meow.
   
   Tough to test
   
   Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
   around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries 
   in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to 
   record their pets' cries — capturing the sounds made by cats when they 
   were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected 
   recordings from 10 different cats.
   
   The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not 
   all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never 
   had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively 
   seeking food — the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry — as more 
   urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts.
   
   When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded 
   cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for 
   those calls decreased significantly.
   
   McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
   purring, but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when 
   it proves effective in generating a response from humans. In fact, not 
   all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems 
   to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with 
   their owners rather than those living in large households, where their 
   purrs might be overlooked.
   
   The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
   Biology. 
   
   ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread Robert
 (snip)_ 
 Again, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I had
 a friend who was manic-depressive who made a *heroic*
 effort to get better--from one medication to the next,
 hospitalization, therapy--for many years with no
 discernible improvement. Finally she decided enough was
 enough and jumped off a building.
 
 She had lots of friends who cared for her deeply and
 had done everything they could to help. Why couldn't
 she have died peacefully with them at her side wishing
 her a good journey?
 
  Lying on a 
  table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
  can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?
 
 Shouldn't death be considered a part of life? Especially
 if it's your own?
 
 (This is my 50th; see you in a few days.)

Happy Birthday to You...Happy Birthday to you, on so on...lalala.
Now, Welcome to the other side of 50...
Ok, short break;
Don't touch that dial...
We'll be right back...

If you die, while your depressed, won't that make the depression worse, when 
your, 'lost in space', without the chance to work through the depression, until 
your next incarnation, which may take forever...
But, since forever, when your dead, goes by fast, then no problemo...
You'll just need to work on that depressive thingy, next time around...

BTW, many times, when these people are so possessed with whatever...they just 
might need an exorcism...or see a Shaman, who can release these ones, from the 
'Suicide Demon'...
Something those suicidal bombers, could use as well...a real good exorcism or 
Shamanic Demon Blow-out...
Over and out...
r.g.



[FairfieldLife] ‘Impact on World Consciousness!’

2009-07-15 Thread Robert

Who has had a greater impact on World Consciousness?
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi or Dalai Lama?
Foolish question, but I put it out, anyway...

Think,even the impact, of the Beatles music,
 The music, after India, many of George Harrison's songs...
Many were inspired by Maharishi...
(Besides the ‘Sexy Sadie’ tune, which John appoligized for in his last 
interview)...
There are so many areas, seen and unseen,
Which Maharishi effected,
And still effects, by his teaching...

Not to single out Dalia Lama...
I have nothing against the man...
There’s just not too much of a consciousness changing experience, there...
In my humble opinion...
r.g.



  


[FairfieldLife] TM and 2012

2009-07-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Jai Guru Dev FFL,

It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose to 
replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole science.  
The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for context.  
The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, it is a noble cause we are 
engaged in,.   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any serious student of  
human progress would view.  A presentation tightly packed as a composite of 
everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs be done about non-meditators 
and their non-meditation ways.


Global Chat:
http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html



Be together etc… 

JGD, 
-Doug in FF




[FairfieldLife] Sunday Morning Drive To College Cove

2009-07-15 Thread Marek Reavis
Here's an inconsequential narrative, but it's illustrated with seven photos 
that I'm putting into a new album in the Photos section (College Cove), and 
they are the actual story, or at least, worth looking at for their own sake.  
These comments only augment them with place names and anecdotal trivia.

Last Sunday I went out in the morning to see if there were any waves anywhere.  
The surf these last few weeks has been small to smallish 
(waist-high/shoulder-high) but very surfable, particularly for a longboard.  
But Sunday (and Monday, too, unfortunately) there were no waves anywhere; it 
was the vast Pacific Lake all up and all down.  On Sunday, the last surfbreak I 
checked out was a spot I've never surfed before, called College Cove.  

It's just a couple of miles out of the little town of Trinidad and there's a 
small parking lot at the end of a short gravel road which tees off of a twisty, 
up-and-down, one lane road, called Stagecoach, that heads north from Trinidad.  
You take a small trail at the far end of the parking lot through the forest 
maybe two- or three-hundred yards or so, and there's a little spot to stand in 
the trees right at the top of the bluff; and from here you can look down and 
see if the surf is breaking. (see, Photo No. 1.)

As you can see for yourself, it was calm and flat, but enticing nonetheless, 
even if not for surfing.  There's a small, stepped trail leading down from the 
left of the view spot and it wends down the bluff through the trees.  Flowers, 
ferns and foliage of all sorts shoulder the trail the whole way down to the 
beach. (Photo No. 2.)

It's not too far before you glimpse the shorebreak at the bottom of the trail. 
(Photo No. 3.) College Cove is a lovely arc of soft sand and scattered sea 
stacks tucked into the redwood and deciduous forest that blankets the hills and 
valleys that meet the ocean here in Humboldt.  This is a view looking south 
from where the trail empties onto the beach.  (Photo No. 4.)  Here is another 
view, looking north while standing among anemone-covered rocks exposed during 
low tide. (Photo No. 5.) And a sight-line through sea stacks to Trinidad Head.  
(Photo No. 6.)

No one but myself.  I walked along the curve of the beach and listened to the 
gentle crash of tiny waves as they made their own small contribution to the 
beach -- the lightest and siltiest of sea sand.

At the far end of the cove, I started to climb one of the larger stacks, one 
with trees and brush on top, but after a while I thought better of the idea and 
made my way back down.  As I strolled back to the trail at the other end of the 
cove I glanced back one more time at the sea and just as I did, the smooth, 
grey back of a dolphin broke the surface and arced quietly across the still 
water.  I stayed and watched for another few minutes while two porpoises lazily 
dawdled in the green sea that lapped my feet.  Never got that photo.

There was work to do Sunday afternoon, jail visits with clients and reviews of 
police reports in an ongoing trial, and I'd hoped to get some time in the water 
before all that; but I wasn't dissappointed in the least with the morning that 
it turned out to be.

Got in the truck and headed home.  (Photo No. 7.)



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:

 On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
  to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
  all means check out the DVD they made of Live
  Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is
  to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
  of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
  her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
  attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
  gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
  if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
  MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.
 
 I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, 
 and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're 
 used to the persons previous range of facial 
 expressions. Yet other friends have had skin 
 peels of faces lifts. They never look quite 
 the same. The good news is the first  
 replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is 
 now available, although at this time just for 
 burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to  
 replace your skin. Carticel is also approved 
 and is in use for  replacing your knee cartilage 
 with cells cultured again from your  
 own. In some cases it can completely restore 
 original function. With Obama removing the Bush 
 restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very  
 likely such innovations will only accelerate.

In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking 
cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes 
that, despite all the gee-whiz technology 
displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters 
resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, 
I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with 
the observations above, that people will engineer 
themselves to look very different in the next few 
hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood 
of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel 
all manner of science fiction plots.



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012

2009-07-15 Thread shempmcgurk
Doug:

I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked to.

I could go no farther.  This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the Adult 
Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and contact 
the nearest deprogramming professional.

I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the 
Window wouldn't let me.

How could you sit through that crap?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 Jai Guru Dev FFL,
 
 It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose 
 to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole 
 science.  The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for 
 context.  The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, it is a noble 
 cause we are engaged in,.   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any 
 serious student of  human progress would view.  A presentation tightly packed 
 as a composite of everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs be done 
 about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways.
 
 
 Global Chat:
 http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html
 
 
 
 Be together etc… 
 
 JGD, 
 -Doug in FF





[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
 
  On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
   Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
   to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
   all means check out the DVD they made of Live
   Roadrunning. It's marvelous, but the shocker is
   to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
   of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
   her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
   attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
   gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
   if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
   MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.
  
  I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, 
  and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're 
  used to the persons previous range of facial 
  expressions. Yet other friends have had skin 
  peels of faces lifts. They never look quite 
  the same. The good news is the first  
  replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is 
  now available, although at this time just for 
  burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to  
  replace your skin. Carticel is also approved 
  and is in use for  replacing your knee cartilage 
  with cells cultured again from your  
  own. In some cases it can completely restore 
  original function. With Obama removing the Bush 
  restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very  
  likely such innovations will only accelerate.
 
 In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking 
 cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes 
 that, despite all the gee-whiz technology 
 displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters 
 resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, 
 I doubt it. He points out, quite in line with 
 the observations above, that people will engineer 
 themselves to look very different in the next few 
 hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood 
 of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel 
 all manner of science fiction plots.




Hey, just look at how people have engineered themselves to look today compared 
to, say, the 1950s.

Remember the Superman Series?  The people truly looked like they lived on the 
type of breakfasts that that family in Pleasantville ate every morning.  
People were top heavy and pasty.

Today, the young people are 6-pack-ab like with golden complexions.

People today truly look good.



[FairfieldLife] Jedi Knight McChrystal

2009-07-15 Thread yifuxero
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175074



[FairfieldLife] Re: Cheney's Assassination Ops

2009-07-15 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@...
wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  Seems like Dickie was sending out US military to kill off people he
 felt
  were enemies of the state. See, we were living in a dictatorship
the
  last 8 years:
 
  Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday
 when
  he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military
 was
  running an executive assassination ring throughout the Bush years
  which reported directly to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
  More here:
 

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Hersh_US_has_been_running_executive_0311.h\
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http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Hersh_US_has_been_running_executive_0311.\
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 html
 


 Benizir Bhutto - murdered -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Benazir_Bhutto
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Benazir_Bhutto

 Michael Connell: GOP consultant killed in plane crash was warned of
 sabotage:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Killed_GOP_pilot_suspected_plane_had_1222.\
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 html

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Killed_GOP_pilot_suspected_plane_had_1222\
\
 .html

 DC Madam: They will make it look like suicide Two high profile
 escorts, going to go public with evidence, commit suicide
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvrgQ5hOM4feature=related
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvrgQ5hOM4feature=related

 Anthrax Gevernment Scientist Bruce Ivins Commits Suicide:

http://www.newser.com/story/33915/anthrax-case-scientist-commits-suicide\
\
 .html

http://www.newser.com/story/33915/anthrax-case-scientist-commits-suicid\
\
 e.html

 There is very good reason to believe that Raymond Lemme (who was
barely
 mentioned by our corporate news media, if mentioned at all) had
 information shortly before his death, in July 2003, in a Valdosta,
 Georgia motel room, that could have blown open the plans of George W.
 Bush and his handlers to win the 2004 Presidential election
 http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/402
 http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/402


 Dr David Kelly, a defence ministry biologist and former UN arms
 inspector - committs suicide
 http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/20/1058639648013.html
 http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/20/1058639648013.html

 Osama Bin Laden killed by Omar Sheikh??? -reported by Benazir Bhutto
to
 have been murdered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg

 Former Pakistani President, Pervez Musharraf, in his book In the Line
 of Fire stated that Sheikh was originally recruited by British
 intelligence agency, MI6, while studying at the London School of
 Economics. He alleges Omar Sheikh was sent to the Balkans by MI6 to
 engage in jihadi operations. Musharraf later went on to state, At
some
 point, he probably became a rogue or double agent.[7]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20476793-601,00.html

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20476793-601,00.html\
\
 

 Daniel Pearl???


 OffWorld



The plot thickens.
CIA linked to Bhutto's murder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgeq1CuJb0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgeq1CuJb0w

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] 'Help Legalize Whiskey in Kentucky!'

2009-07-15 Thread Robert

[A Non-Seaquarium!]...


  


[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
  to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
  doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
  Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
  a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
  legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
  are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
  to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
  the end of the world. people do get over it.
  
  I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
  from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
  a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
  and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
  Life aint like that, it's bitch.
  
  Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
  painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
  til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
  that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
  depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
  table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
  can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?
 
 
 It's painful to see a loved one suffer, painful to watch them die and painful 
 to mourn. Each step of goodbye, hoping the end will not come, knowing it 
 will, brings us closer to our own mortality. Feeling the kinship of humanity 
 and compassion for those bereft of courage at loss, naturally we reach out in 
 friendship to fill the void with wise counsel and protection until the tears 
 have passed. Choice is just around the corner of now, balancing life and 
 death decisions. Knowing we are not alone helps ease the burden of rightly or 
 wrongly choosing an unknown. Even so, no one can choose for you. In the end 
 you will be alone passing into yet another unknown.

  Interesting observation RD.
  I tend to think it would be returning to where we came from and, that we 
might find it familiar.
  Years back, I wrote a poem about such feelings and, still think it might have 
some merit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot

2009-07-15 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote:

 scienceofabundance wrote:
  I see nothing on the page you referred
  to about Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits...
 
 The boy pundits see the doctor all the time,
 according to my sources in Vedic City. 

Given that there is nothing in the URL you posted about Dr. Lonsdorf related to 
Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits, it has not relevance. Why did you post it? 

Your final argument [final two sentences above] remains as it was initially - 
you have sources.  Sources - no evidence.




[FairfieldLife] Solution to the Iranian problem

2009-07-15 Thread yifuxero
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/39688/bunker_buster_bomb/



[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012

2009-07-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om Dear Shemp,
Crap?  Oh man you got to stick with it and at least git beyond that sesame 
street opening.  It is foundational stuff.  Explains in context what is now his 
(Hagelin's) part of the movement is about.  

Eighteen months after Maharishi, seems now there are three prongs working.  
Hagelin and Lynch going after the secular presentation of TM, the pundit 
chanting program,  And then MUM.   This tape is context for them all.  Was made 
sometime before Maharishi died as a statement.  Kind of like Hagelin rolled up 
his sleeves and went headlong for it as a project.  Strategically it was sort 
of a TMmovement unified field theory of mission.  In effect, a recapitulation 
before Maharishi died.  Is a lot of large high thinking in it  worth an effort 
to listen.  Is pretty special what they are up to in context.

To get through it, could play it as background whilst you work otherwise is one 
way of getting through it.

Of course is bad enough here that we have people trying to write on FFL who are 
not even practcing meditators, but at least folks could get on one page 
together by listening together to Dr. John Hagelin this way.  

Could proly do the world some lot of good.  The science evidently says it would 
be even better if people would actually do their spiritual meditation practices.

With Best Regards,
-D in FF





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 Doug:
 
 I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked 
 to.
 
 I could go no farther.  This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the 
 Adult Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and 
 contact the nearest deprogramming professional.
 
 I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the 
 Window wouldn't let me.
 
 How could you sit through that crap?
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Jai Guru Dev FFL,
  
  It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose 
  to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole 
  science.  The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech 
  for context.  The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, it is a 
  noble cause we are engaged in,.   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that 
  any serious student of  human progress would view.  A presentation tightly 
  packed as a composite of everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs 
  be done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways.
  
  
  Global Chat:
  http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html
  
  
  
  Be together etc… 
  
  JGD, 
  -Doug in FF
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread John


 Not if they've been doing sadhana for awhile.  They should be at least 
 judging matters as lines on water.  I learned years ago not to judge 
 anything on how other people think.  This came when as a high school 
 jazz musician back in the 1960s that the public cared little for good 
 music so I cared little for them.  This BTW is very typical of musicians 
 and artists period.

I agree with much of what you're saying.  Everyone has their own personal taste 
for a particular music genre.  I myself used to play the alto saxophone in a 
college class.  I enjoyed the jazz numbers we did, particularly those by Neil 
Hefti (such as Li'l Darlin).


  The key to better living is take life as it comes and not be fettered by 
  one's own perceptions of what the good life should be, nor other people's 
  concept of the good life should be.  In other words, the phenomenal world 
  will always be changing and is not and cannot be perfect as it should be.


 Hell no.  You SHOULD be cutting through the world regardless of how it 
 is from the platform of silence. It's nothing but an interplay of energy 
 anyway and a dream.  BUT that doesn't mean that you shouldn't contribute 
 your part to making it a better world and that might be taking a 
 pro-active role for change.  We can just let a bunch of dumbass 
 billionaires ruin the world.

I agree with what you say.  Perhaps, MMY's heaven on earth would come soon 
enough.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012

2009-07-15 Thread Bhairitu
Heh, it's just a 162 MB WMV file. Right click on it and save it to a 
folder. Then you can go to any point in the video.

shempmcgurk wrote:
 Doug:

 I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked 
 to.

 I could go no farther.  This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the 
 Adult Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and 
 contact the nearest deprogramming professional.

 I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the 
 Window wouldn't let me.

 How could you sit through that crap?



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... 
 wrote:
   
 Jai Guru Dev FFL,

 It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose 
 to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole 
 science.  The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for 
 context.  The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, it is a noble 
 cause we are engaged in,.   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any 
 serious student of  human progress would view.  A presentation tightly 
 packed as a composite of everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs be 
 done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways.


 Global Chat:
 http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html



 Be together etc… 

 JGD, 
 -Doug in FF

 



   






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[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

2009-07-15 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
To All:
   
A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
 link
   
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world\
 
  
   Let me see if I've got this straight:
  
   * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
   cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
   of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
   dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
   doped up on drugs or screaming, is ignorance.
 
  The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
  have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
  what other people think.  For that matter, they make
  decisions based on emotions and standards that they
  created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
  maya, or false images of water on the desert floor.
 
 John, assuming that you truly believe this:
 
 1. Are you not a human being?
 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
 3. Do you not have emotions?
 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
 5. If you answered Yes to all of the questions above, are *your*
 thoughts and ideas about the world not maya, or false images?
 Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
 questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
 one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
 one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
 of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
 single one* of your ideas about the vedic literature and its
 supposed value are merely maya, or false images?
 
 If so, I count on you to do the right thing and stop presenting
 any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
 Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in maya,
 and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.

IMHO, human beings in their present physiological makeup are capable of 
perceiving the Truth.  It just takes some effort and willingness to realize 
one's true potential.  Guru Dev once said that human beings are in a better 
position than the demigods because we can still make progress.  On the other 
hand, the demigods are already immersed in celestial life that they cannot make 
any more progress towards Unity Consciousness.

By the way, the photos were fantastic.







 
 See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
 point that you were really making without realizing what it was:
 
   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
 
 
   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
 
 
 
 
   [Bubble bursting sequence]
 
 
 
 
   [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
 
 
 
 
   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]





[FairfieldLife] 'Congrats to Goldman Sacks! from Snoop...'

2009-07-15 Thread Robert

Hey~It's Snoop, gettin' down, with ya'all
Yo, you guy's at the Sacks, wow, that's all I can say...is OMG...
Yo, you guy's have no Shame!
Yo, yo, yo...man, you dudes take the cake...
You taken Mr. Pres. for a ride?
That ain't nice, now is it?
Hey, yo...wus up, you ain't fools, for sure...you ain't some kind of fools, 
now, is you?
A billion here, a billion there
Yo, who's countin' anyway?
Yo, you know who's countin'...
mr. satan?
Yo, 
I'm 
Out...

Snoop.


  


[FairfieldLife] 'Tex/Mexican Weed War Heats Up'

2009-07-15 Thread Robert

Heading down to the Mafia abyss...

A powerful Mexican drug cartel has unleashed a killing spree against the 
authorities in a challenge to the leadership of the President in his home state.

The bodies of a dozen federal anti-drug agents were found on a mountain highway 
in Michoacán, the home state of Felipe Calderón, on Monday.

The killing of the agents was the worst loss of life in a single attack since 
President Calderón took office in 2006, taking the war between the narcotics 
gangs and the Government into uncharted territory.

Their murders were the boldest of at least ten reprisal attacks since Arnoldo 
Rueda Medina, nicknamed La Minsa, was arrested on Saturday. He is reputedly the 
second-in-command of La Familia cartel in Michoacán.
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Six federal police officers and two soldiers were also killed in attacks on 
police stations and hotels where anti-drug agents were staying.

The surge in violence marks a potential shift in Mexico’s drug wars, which have 
claimed 11,000 lives during the presidency of Mr Calderón, who ordered the army 
to intervene.

Ciro Gomez Leyva, a columnist for the newspaper Milenio, described the killings 
as a Mexican version of the Tet offensive in Vietnam in 1968.

“In the war against the narcos, Saturday, July 11, seems like a kind of Tet 
offensive, the synchronised action by South Vietnamese guerrillas and the North 
Vietnamese Army against US troops at the end of January 1968 that, despite 
being characterised as a military disaster, created the perception that the 
otherwise invincible US Army would never win in Vietnam,” he wrote.

The perception that the war against drugs is being lost is pervasive. A poll 
published in Milenio said that only 28 per cent of Mexicans believed that the 
Government was winning, and more than half thought that it was losing.

Mr Calderón said: “The criminals will not be able to intimidate the federal 
Government. In this battle we will not give up, we will not hesitate, because 
what is at stake is Mexico’s peace and safety.”

Michoacán, on the Pacific coast, has become a battleground because it controls 
routes into the United States. It is also one of Mexico’s main producers of 
marijuana, opium poppies and synthetic drugs.

Mr Rueda was arrested in the Michoacán capital, Morelia. He is allegedly the 
right-hand-man to the reputed boss, Nazario Moreno Gonzalez, known as El Mas 
Loco, or the Craziest One.

Within hours of the arrest, gunmen from La Familia, armed with rifles and 
grenades, ambushed federal forces in seven cities.

Some of the attacks took place near tourist sites such as the arts-and-crafts 
centre of Patzcuaro and Zitacuaro, which is famous for its monarch butterflies.

In the most brutal attack, eleven men and one woman agent were abducted while 
off duty.

Their bodies were found stacked on the highway with death threats that read: 
“La Familia, join its ranks or leave” and “Let’s see if you try to arrest 
another one”.

La Familia has penetrated the power structure, allegedly obtaining protection 
from police and politicians.

Seven mayors, one former mayor and a state prosecutor are being held after a 
federal police sweep of allegedly corrupt politicians in May.

An arrest warrant has been issued for Julio Godoy, the half brother of a state 
Governor. Mr Godoy was elected to Congress last week as a member of the 
Democratic Revolution Party.

Analysts said that the killings were not necessarily a sign of the cartel’s 
strength, but were an escalation of the battle to contain them.

“This marks an important change in the drug war in that they are attacking 
federal forces directly,” Jorge Chabat, a drug expert, said.

“It also suggests the capture of this person has affected the operations of the 
cartel. It was a major blow and this is a reaction out of weakness, not 
strength.”

In separate Mexican drug violence, six gunmen were killed on Tuesday in the 
northern city of Monterrey. Gunmen killed the mayor of Namiquipa in Coahuila 
and four police officers were kidnapped in Piedras Negras.

In Tabasco state on the Gulf coast, prosecutors charged five alleged Gulf 
cartel hitmen with allegedly killing two policemen and eighteen of their 
relatives in February and May.

A drugs trade worth billions and severed heads on the dance floor

• Every year Mexican cartels smuggle illegal drugs worth about $40 billion (£24 
billion) into the United States, the world’s biggest market for narcotics. 
Mexico is a major source of heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana — and a key 
transit country for the vast amounts of cocaine that are transported over the 
border

• In 2008, 6,000 people died in drug violence in Mexico, according to President 
Calderón — almost double the 3,042 deaths that were recorded in 2007

• About 95 per cent of the killings were 

[FairfieldLife] Sleep monitoring alarm clock

2009-07-15 Thread bob_brigante





http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/technology/personaltech/16pogue.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/technology/personaltech/16pogue.html

...get yourself a Zeo alarm clock.

That's expensive, sure, but this one does a few things your basic
Wal-Mart
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/wal_mart_stores_i\
nc/index.html?inline=nyt-org  special doesn't do.

It comes with an elastic headband, which you're supposed to wear to
bed each night. In its center, resting against the skin of your
forehead, there's a little transmitter pod, something like a digital
watch without the band. All night long, this thing measures your
brainwaves and transmits them wirelessly to the clock on your
nightstand.

When you wake, you put the headband back onto its charging shelf on the
clock. The screen comes to life, showing you a very cool graph of your
night.

You can walk through it using arrow keys. The clock, and the graph,
indicate where you were at each five-minute interval: awake, in light
sleep, in REM sleep or in deep sleep. You can also step through screens
that display your sleep-cycle tallies in huge digital numbers: 2:54
REM, 0:35 deep and so on.