[FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
   
These ex-TM people who spent a decade or less in the
TMO and then spend the rest of their lives coming to
terms with their cult indoctrination make me scratch
my head.
  
   You're not a TRUE cultist until you've spent
   at least three decades in the cult.
 
  What does it mean when you pronounce everyone else is
  a cultist while missing that you might have issues,
  yourself...

 What does it mean when current cultists feel the
 need to portray former cultists who are honest
 enough with themselves to realized they were a
 part of a cult and who still have some lingering
 curiosity about those who have never reached that
 point as having something *wrong* with them?

 I mean, there is a concerted attempt on this forum
 to portray anyone who still finds the machinations
 of current-day cultists fascinating from a curiosity
 standpoint as having something *wrong* with us. Our
 curiosity doesn't mean that we're still attached to
 the cult or its leader or its dogma the way the
 current-day cultists are, merely that we find those
 who still feel that way curious.

 As I suggested before, it's sorta like going to a
 high school reunion and running into people for
 whom high school was the high point of their lives.
 You've got yer popular kids (those who became TM
 teachers and worked for the TMO) who were members of
 all the right clubs and were voted Most likely to...
 and who still identify so strongly with that image
 of themselves that they attempt to pretend that they
 are still those same people, and not the owner of
 a car wash in Peoria. Then you've got yer folks who
 never fit it even back in high school (the ones who
 never became TM teachers, never did a lick of work
 for the TMO, but feel that they deserve being treated
 as if they did). They were members of the Debate Club,
 or the National Honor Society or some other group of
 dweebs, and none of the popular kids ever wanted to
 have anything to do with them. On some level they're
 *still* trying to get the popular kids to accept them
 as their equals, which is never going to happen. Even
 sadder, at every high school reunion there is someone
 like Ravi, who never even *went* to that high school,
 but is so desperate for attention that he attends its
 reunions anyway. It's all so Romy And Michele's High
 School Reunion.

Huh? (yawn) (yawn) (rub eyes) (startled) Did you say High school
reunion? High school reunion !!! yaay !!! I'm in - Thanks Uncle
Turq, I was so sad that I was being ignored, not anymore.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Ravi Yogi
Right on, in fact most of the Gurus are trend setters. Vaj misses the
point or intentionally misrepresents.
The truth is always same, the techniques well known. When a Guru is new
on scene he might have to point to scriptures, existing Gurus and
lineages to create the trust in seekers hence all this drama with MMY,
SBS, Gurudev and what not. However they are not bound to all this, they
in a way use these to announce themselves and after the seekers finds
the love and trust in the Guru, the Guru eventually throws all the
scriptures, lineages and his Guru out of the door and introduces his own
techniques. The same techniques repackaged like the old wine in a new
bottle.
The Guru understands the goal oriented greedy nature of the human mind
and its need to feel special. So the Guru will repackage the truth and
the techniques with new names and will refer to his/her techniques as
the greatest or special or even refer himself or herself as the greatest
avatar. But these are all tricks, techniques or devices used to wakeup,
to point to the inner Guru.
Most seekers are mature and eventually can see through the Guru's
function but the infantile ones like Barry and Vaj are stuck with in a
rut with these outer tools and techniques. They feel cheated by the Guru
and are hell bent on revenge the rest of their lives.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
wrote:

 Sorry Vaj, complete BS. The Universe does not require some authentic
transmission and lineage for self realization, or teaching. That imo is
a Buddhist Ego Trip. That is why US Buddhists are so ineffective, always
fussing with their made up credentials instead of making spiritual
progress. To even try and pass judgment on Maharishi from a deluded fool
such as yourself is laughable. You oughta continue with all of your
buddhist tom-foolery. It keeps your head full of useless information and
prevents you making any progress. Enjoy!

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
 
  On May 18, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
 
   Perhaps a useful question is this: just how deep does the purity
   of the teaching have to be to ensure that a meditator has a
   correct experience of TM, or some other technique. From what
   teachers told me, there seem to be two elements. A mantra, and the
   correct way to use it, which is the right start of meditation, and
   then everything mostly takes care of itself.
 
 
  The simple answer is it needs to be an intact line with an
  appropriate delivery method. We now know two things:
 
  1. Maharishi was NOT authorized by Swami Brahmananda to teach nor
was
  he trained in how to do so.
 
  2. Puja diksha is an authentic method for mantra initiation, but it
  requires a) an authentic teacher, which Mahesh was not, and b) an
  authentic means. The puja Maharishi created is a hodge podge of
  different goods, tacked onto one another. The important thing here
is
  that we now know that the puja is largely derived from a student of
  Swami Brahmananda who was a poet and scholar. When Brahmananda was
  told of this poem, poem, he explicitly asked Mahesh to destroy it
and
  throw it into the Ganges. Mahesh instead kept it and used it,
against
  the direct wishes of his guru.
 
  So therefore we have an untrained and unauthorized student with no
  line of transmission using a made up, but very clever device to fool
  the unwary and to promote his own cause(s).
 
  The further fact that Mahesh's teaching is in direct opposition to
  SBS's closes this case.
 
  Verdict: phony guru with phony initiation ceremony, against the
  direct wishes of his guru...and millions of fooled customers.
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

  On Behalf Of emptybill
 
  Richard,
  
  Calm down and consider the facts long demonstrated here on FFL.
  
  Vaj is a classic newsgroup troll ... someone whose only 
  purpose is to cause everyone else to argue, to provoke 
  readers to an emotional reaction and to disrupt normal 
  on-topic discussion.

Please check the description of this group on its
home page. Nothing Vaj posts is anything other than
on topic, according to that. What you're saying is
that Vaj posts things you don't like.

  Vaj trolls here, along with Barry, strictly due to 
  Rick choosing to allow it.
  
  He seems quite amused by their behaviors. 

As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice
as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into
attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that
we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of
them, and they don't just bite, they *leap* onto 
the hook.

*And* in very predictable ways. I don't know about
Vaj, but my schtick is to pre-announce how the TM
TBs are going to react, throw out the bait, and then
wait for them to demonstrate that my prediction was
accurate. What I think you don't like is that most
of the time it works.

 I don't know about that, but I do know that I decided long 
 ago that I'm not going to police FFL. I don't have the time, 
 and it is not my nature to do so. There are enough FFL 
 participants representing enough points of view that the 
 whole thing is self-regulating. Every perspective is
 counter-balanced by some other. My interference would 
 only upset the balance. My status as a participant is 
 equal to everyone else's. Some agree with my point of view; 
 others don't. I don't consider it to be more right
 than others' perspectives, and certainly don't want FFL 
 to be filtered through it.

Well said. On the other hand, the folks playing pile
on to the latest Get Vaj Fest very much DO want the
posts at FFL filtered through their own perspective.

Interestingly enough, that perspective is to glorify
and amplify those who push their buttons, as opposed
to just ignoring them, or simply countering what they
say by sticking to the content of what they post. 
Instead, the pile on crowd here at FFL seemingly
*cannot* simply deal with the issues raised by critics. 
They *have* to attack the critics personally.

In doing this, they tend to elevate them, as if 
they feel the need to make them seem like bigger
enemies. Vaj isn't Just Another Guy With An Opinion,
he's part of an enormous Buddhist conspiracy. If 
you made a list of the things I've been accused of,
it would probably be longer than the list of things
that Hitler has been accused of. :-)

I keep pushing buttons because I'm hoping someday
that most in the TMO will finally figure out that
they embarrass only themselves and the org they're
trying so desperately to defend by acting out this
Gotta get the critic behavior. It's their *own*
self importance that makes them characterize the
critics they perceive as enemies in a larger than
life fashion. They cannot allow lurkers to think
that they've gotten this bent out of shape over
Just Another Guy With An Opinion. They have to
make it seem as if the guy is part of some huge
conspiracy, or mentally ill, or whatever.

People whose beliefs are strong have no need to
consistently demonize those who challenge them.
Their beliefs *are* strong, and they demonstrate
that strength of belief by just laughing, or by
dealing with the meat of the critical points
being raised. What they *don't* do is embarrass 
themselves and the beliefs themselves by trying 
to get the critic. That's just stupid. 

Me, I continue to allow those prone to stupidity
to demonstrate it on this forum. As I've said 
many times, if you're trying to make a point,
*demonstrate* it, don't claim it. The pile on
crowd never fails to demonstrate the behavior
I am pointing out -- the compulsive need to
attack and demonize those who disagree with 
them. I'm betting that most here know the 
difference between that and real belief.




[FairfieldLife] The fair game policy

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
There are many ludicrous things about the COS (Cult
Of Scientology). The whole story of Xenu, for example.
But IMO the thing that has done them the most damage,
and may in fact bring them down eventually, is the
policy that they first proudly proclaimed as part of
their essential dogma, and now practice in secret,
even though they claim that they don't. 

That is their policy of Fair Game, in which anyone
who doubts or criticizes the COS is declared an enemy
of the Church and is therefore subject to whatever
is necessary to demonize, silence, or marginalize
them. With the COS, this has taken the form of lawsuits,
planting evidence in attempts to get its critics 
arrested, putting live rattlesnakes in critics' mail
boxes, and much, much worse. 

THAT is not just belief, or the faith of True Believers.
THAT is embarrassing, and the stuff of paranoia and
destructive cult behavior. And THAT is what is going 
to eventually bring the COS organization down.

My contention is that there is a similar policy in
the TMO. It's not official, of course, and it's not
written down anywhere, but anyone who has been an 
actual part of the organization knows that it exists,
and that it's religiously practiced. 

TM teachers who chooses to leave the TMO are *not*
just allowed to do so, as expressions of their own 
free will. They are first characterized as having
something wrong with them (unstressing, or actual
mental illness), and if they commit the Ultimate Sin
and go public with their views, that's only the
beginning. The TMO pursues them with lawsuits, and
in public by consistently challenging their motives
(by ascribing nefarious or profit-driven motives to
them), their sanity, their reputations, and their
credibility. Their former friends shun and diss them.
It's the very essence of cult behavior, and IMO will 
be as destructive to the TMO in the long run as the 
COS's Fair Game policy will be to them.

And the thing is IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY. On 
Fairfield Life or in the press, everybody is Just 
Another Person Expressing An Opinion. *Consistent* 
attempts to demonize these Persons With Opinions 
and to try to characterize them as part of some
organized conspiracy are perceived by most people on
the planet as exactly what they are -- expressions of
paranoia, self-importance, and out-of-control anger 
and attachment on the part of the people acting these 
behaviors out.

But on another level, it seems that for the people acting
these petty, high school vendettas out, they are very
NECESSARY indeed. I would go so far as to say that 
those who have demonstrated a *consistent* need to 
demonize and dump on critics of TM and the TMO on this 
forum HAVE NO CHOICE. They couldn't stop this behavior
if they tried. It's been demonstrated to them for so long,
and by so many peers in the TMO, that they have come to
think of it as normal, and admirable. 

It's not. And it's not a sign of strength. It's a sign
of weakness. And that weakness is going to eventually
bring down the organization they're trying so hard to
defend. So in a very real sense, IMO, the Gotta get 
the critics players on this forum are the worst enemies
that the TMO has. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread seventhray1

Raunch, I don't mean to be a stickler, but did you notice the little
symbol on the bottom left of Superman's shirt.  That is the symbol of
the anti Superman.  This photo is not what it seems.  I haven't examined
each Superhero's garb, but I am already finding some pretty significant
inconsistencies.  I think you may have been duped.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@...
wrote:


 Marvel and DC comic heroes in the Situation Room watching the Osama
bin
 Laden raid raises the question, why did they need Navy Seals to do the
 takedown?





[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gPxf-pFqS6M/Tcp_Js9N7sI/AJA/s2Yr6oI2v\
\

HA/s1600/superheroes-marvel-DC-comics-osama-bin-laden-raid-white-house-s\
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 ituation-room.jpg]





[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Robert


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
   On Behalf Of emptybill
  
   Richard,
   
   Calm down and consider the facts long demonstrated here on FFL.
   
   Vaj is a classic newsgroup troll ... someone whose only 
   purpose is to cause everyone else to argue, to provoke 
   readers to an emotional reaction and to disrupt normal 
   on-topic discussion.
 
 Please check the description of this group on its
 home page. Nothing Vaj posts is anything other than
 on topic, according to that. What you're saying is
 that Vaj posts things you don't like.
 
   Vaj trolls here, along with Barry, strictly due to 
   Rick choosing to allow it.
   
   He seems quite amused by their behaviors. 
 
 As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice
 as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into
 attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that
 we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of
 them, and they don't just bite, they *leap* onto 
 the hook.
 
 *And* in very predictable ways. I don't know about
 Vaj, but my schtick is to pre-announce how the TM
 TBs are going to react, throw out the bait, and then
 wait for them to demonstrate that my prediction was
 accurate. What I think you don't like is that most
 of the time it works.
 
  I don't know about that, but I do know that I decided long 
  ago that I'm not going to police FFL. I don't have the time, 
  and it is not my nature to do so. There are enough FFL 
  participants representing enough points of view that the 
  whole thing is self-regulating. Every perspective is
  counter-balanced by some other. My interference would 
  only upset the balance. My status as a participant is 
  equal to everyone else's. Some agree with my point of view; 
  others don't. I don't consider it to be more right
  than others' perspectives, and certainly don't want FFL 
  to be filtered through it.
 
 Well said. On the other hand, the folks playing pile
 on to the latest Get Vaj Fest very much DO want the
 posts at FFL filtered through their own perspective.
 
 Interestingly enough, that perspective is to glorify
 and amplify those who push their buttons, as opposed
 to just ignoring them, or simply countering what they
 say by sticking to the content of what they post. 
 Instead, the pile on crowd here at FFL seemingly
 *cannot* simply deal with the issues raised by critics. 
 They *have* to attack the critics personally.
 
 In doing this, they tend to elevate them, as if 
 they feel the need to make them seem like bigger
 enemies. Vaj isn't Just Another Guy With An Opinion,
 he's part of an enormous Buddhist conspiracy. If 
 you made a list of the things I've been accused of,
 it would probably be longer than the list of things
 that Hitler has been accused of. :-)
 
 I keep pushing buttons because I'm hoping someday
 that most in the TMO will finally figure out that
 they embarrass only themselves and the org they're
 trying so desperately to defend by acting out this
 Gotta get the critic behavior. It's their *own*
 self importance that makes them characterize the
 critics they perceive as enemies in a larger than
 life fashion. They cannot allow lurkers to think
 that they've gotten this bent out of shape over
 Just Another Guy With An Opinion. They have to
 make it seem as if the guy is part of some huge
 conspiracy, or mentally ill, or whatever.
 
 People whose beliefs are strong have no need to
 consistently demonize those who challenge them.
 Their beliefs *are* strong, and they demonstrate
 that strength of belief by just laughing, or by
 dealing with the meat of the critical points
 being raised. What they *don't* do is embarrass 
 themselves and the beliefs themselves by trying 
 to get the critic. That's just stupid. 
 
 Me, I continue to allow those prone to stupidity
 to demonstrate it on this forum. As I've said 
 many times, if you're trying to make a point,
 *demonstrate* it, don't claim it. The pile on
 crowd never fails to demonstrate the behavior
 I am pointing out -- the compulsive need to
 attack and demonize those who disagree with 
 them. I'm betting that most here know the 
 difference between that and real belief.

There are people on this forum and in the TMO who are doing devoted in a 
'Bhakti Yoga' way...
And that devotion to the movement that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi created, and the 
techniques they received from him, and the puja, etc...
They are devoted...
I think they would like to be respected for their devotional ways; but then 
again, they don't really care, they are 'detatched' from what you say or do 
against their belief and their devotion...
So, messing with them will get you no where, because the more you try to 
persuade them, the more they will pray for more devotion...
So, there ya' go...

R.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The fair game policy

2011-05-20 Thread Buck
Dear Turq, interesting critique.
Different now from a decade or two ago around here (the TM Movement) is that 
meditating folks do not really want very much from the TM org any more.  So 
there is not that leverage over people using 'that need to belong' over them.  
There is very little need for access.  Fewer kids needing financial aid.  Just 
a couple hundred getting money as financial aid from Howard Settle to be 
employed as full time practicing meditators in the domes.  The lifer-staff 
people are a small circle.  The lifer-staff are potentially the victims 
remaining who could be left vulnerable to spritual bullying.  Generally  there 
is no longer  a need to meat out access to Maharishi or access to a powerful 
center.  Most people of the old TM-movement have melted away.  Yes, there is a 
goodwill around about meditating but, there are lots of options otherwise for 
spiritual progress now.  

The TM-movement is nearly irrelevant even in Fairfield, except that they 
facilitate a large group meditation up there, and still offer to teach a 
meditation to some in the general public.  Yes there are some people hold up, 
like Bevan in Vedic City and some people around him.  But not many.  Some of 
the potential nuts who still would be inclined to terrorize people are around, 
but not many.  As was described to me by one of Bevan's direct peers in the 
movement the other day, Bevan's lack of social skills is an essential problem 
still.  However, over the years most of the real nuts have either died, drifted 
away, and in some cases got shunned by some of the better angels in the middle. 
 TM is at a different point from the cult of Scientology but the similarities 
are instructive.  Thanks.  To be forewarned is to be fore-armed, as the olde 
saying goes.  You've obviously seen a lot. 

I love you,
-Buck

 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 There are many ludicrous things about the COS (Cult
 Of Scientology). The whole story of Xenu, for example.
 But IMO the thing that has done them the most damage,
 and may in fact bring them down eventually, is the
 policy that they first proudly proclaimed as part of
 their essential dogma, and now practice in secret,
 even though they claim that they don't. 
 
 That is their policy of Fair Game, in which anyone
 who doubts or criticizes the COS is declared an enemy
 of the Church and is therefore subject to whatever
 is necessary to demonize, silence, or marginalize
 them. With the COS, this has taken the form of lawsuits,
 planting evidence in attempts to get its critics 
 arrested, putting live rattlesnakes in critics' mail
 boxes, and much, much worse. 
 
 THAT is not just belief, or the faith of True Believers.
 THAT is embarrassing, and the stuff of paranoia and
 destructive cult behavior. And THAT is what is going 
 to eventually bring the COS organization down.
 
 My contention is that there is a similar policy in
 the TMO. It's not official, of course, and it's not
 written down anywhere, but anyone who has been an 
 actual part of the organization knows that it exists,
 and that it's religiously practiced. 
 
 TM teachers who chooses to leave the TMO are *not*
 just allowed to do so, as expressions of their own 
 free will. They are first characterized as having
 something wrong with them (unstressing, or actual
 mental illness), and if they commit the Ultimate Sin
 and go public with their views, that's only the
 beginning. The TMO pursues them with lawsuits, and
 in public by consistently challenging their motives
 (by ascribing nefarious or profit-driven motives to
 them), their sanity, their reputations, and their
 credibility. Their former friends shun and diss them.
 It's the very essence of cult behavior, and IMO will 
 be as destructive to the TMO in the long run as the 
 COS's Fair Game policy will be to them.
 
 And the thing is IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY. On 
 Fairfield Life or in the press, everybody is Just 
 Another Person Expressing An Opinion. *Consistent* 
 attempts to demonize these Persons With Opinions 
 and to try to characterize them as part of some
 organized conspiracy are perceived by most people on
 the planet as exactly what they are -- expressions of
 paranoia, self-importance, and out-of-control anger 
 and attachment on the part of the people acting these 
 behaviors out.
 
 But on another level, it seems that for the people acting
 these petty, high school vendettas out, they are very
 NECESSARY indeed. I would go so far as to say that 
 those who have demonstrated a *consistent* need to 
 demonize and dump on critics of TM and the TMO on this 
 forum HAVE NO CHOICE. They couldn't stop this behavior
 if they tried. It's been demonstrated to them for so long,
 and by so many peers in the TMO, that they have come to
 think of it as normal, and admirable. 
 
 It's not. And it's not a sign of strength. It's a sign
 of weakness. And that weakness is going to eventually
 bring down the organization 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Microsoft Really about to Buy Nokia for Over $80 Billion??

2011-05-20 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:46 PM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:



 http://blog.inner-active.com/2011/05/is-microsoft-really-about-to-buy-nokia-for-over-80-billion/

 It means Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 and its superior software/UI will now
 be partnered, possibly exclusively, with the world's best mobile hardware.
 Yes, say what you want about Symbian, but Nokia knows how to make their
 phones. It also means that Microsoft will now have its ticket into all those
 places that know nothing (or close to nothing) about any iPhone or Android
 phone, and we are talking billions of people. Yes, Nokia reportedly still
 sells one million handsets a day!


But neither uSoft nor Nokia activate the same areas religious areas in the
brain as Apple does

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj


On May 20, 2011, at 4:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice
as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into
attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that
we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of
them, and they don't just bite, they *leap* onto
the hook.



And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping  
people wake up to their own attachments.


I mean, imagine the absurdity of being attached to mere meditation!

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:

 There are people on this forum and in the TMO who are 
 doing devoted in a 'Bhakti Yoga' way...
 And that devotion to the movement that Maharishi Mahesh 
 Yogi created, and the techniques they received from him, 
 and the puja, etc...
 They are devoted...
 I think they would like to be respected for their 
 devotional ways; 

Why? Why would *their* beliefs need to be respected
any more than the beliefs of anyone else? And how is
presenting a different view a *lack* of respect?

 ...but then again, they don't really care, they are 
 'detatched' from what you say or do against their 
 belief and their devotion...

Simply not true. IF that were true, they wouldn't so
consistently try to demonize those who present dif-
ferent views to their own. I think you misread my
post; what I'm *advocating* is a lack of attachment
to one's beliefs, and a lack of lashing out at those
who present different beliefs. That is NOT what is
happening on Fairfield Life among the TM cultists.

And yes, I call them cultists. Because of their
*behavior*, not their beliefs. This fair game
policy is pretty much *textbook* cult behavior,
and as long as they indulge in it, cultists they
are, and cultists they will remain. 

 So, messing with them will get you no where, because 
 the more you try to persuade them, the more they will 
 pray for more devotion...
 So, there ya' go...

You're starting to sound a little like a cultist
yourself, Robert. I'm not trying to persuade
them about ANYTHING. I am merely stating my honest
opinions. At no point do I ask them to accept my
opinion or change their own. They just react *as if*
I had. That, too, is textbook cultist behavior.




[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
 And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping
 people wake up to their own attachments.


A Guru is born!



[FairfieldLife] Re: The fair game policy

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Dear Turq, interesting critique.
 Different now from a decade or two ago around here (the TM 
 Movement) is that meditating folks do not really want very 
 much from the TM org any more. So there is not that leverage 
 over people using 'that need to belong' over them.  

So you've written all of these posts about being banned
from the domes just for the fun of it, right? You never
really *wanted* to belong when you reapplied, and when
you write all these posts about the dome policies? :-)

 There is very little need for access.  

See my previous paragraph. 

 Fewer kids needing financial aid. Just a couple hundred 
 getting money as financial aid from Howard Settle to be 
 employed as full time practicing meditators in the domes.  
 The lifer-staff people are a small circle. The lifer-staff 
 are potentially the victims remaining who could be left 
 vulnerable to spritual bullying. Generally there is no 
 longer a need to meat out access to Maharishi or access 
 to a powerful center.  

Ahem. Weren't you the one who recently raved about 
the recent Paul Horn concert as a rarity, in that
everyone was welcome? Aren't you...uh...contradicting
yourself a bit here?

 Most people of the old TM-movement have melted away.  

Like gigantic ice elephants melting in the sun after 
a yagya in Vlodrop.

I kinda like that image, but doesn't all that water
and other fluids from the meltoff tend to muddy up 
the streets of Fairfield?  :-)

 Yes, there is a goodwill around about meditating...

Except from you, when you fire off one of your frequent
posts putting down non-meditators. Just sayin'...

 ...but, there are lots of options otherwise for 
 spiritual progress now.  

There always were. Then, as now, you just can't take
advantage of them and still be considered On The
Program.

 The TM-movement is nearly irrelevant even in Fairfield...

And in the world at large.

 ...except that they facilitate a large group meditation 
 up there, and still offer to teach a meditation to some 
 in the general public.  

How long has it been since there has been an open intro
lecture in Fairfield, at which members of the town have
signed up to learn? Probably about the same length of
time as in other cities around the world -- years.

 Yes there are some people hold up, like Bevan in Vedic 
 City and some people around him.  But not many.  Some 
 of the potential nuts who still would be inclined to 
 terrorize people are around, but not many.  As was 
 described to me by one of Bevan's direct peers in the 
 movement the other day, Bevan's lack of social skills 
 is an essential problem still.  However, over the 
 years most of the real nuts have either died, drifted 
 away, and in some cases got shunned by some of the 
 better angels in the middle.  

All interesting to TM cultists, I guess, but I don't
see how it's relevant to the Fair Game topic I 
bring up. It's the *rank and file* of the TM movement
I'm talking about doing the demonization, not the 
people at the top.

 TM is at a different point from the cult of Scientology 
 but the similarities are instructive. Thanks. To be 
 forewarned is to be fore-armed, as the olde saying goes.  
 You've obviously seen a lot. 

And, unlike some, I've tried to learn from all of it,
whether I consider what I've seen positive or negative.
That doesn't matter in terms of what you can learn from
the experience.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  There are many ludicrous things about the COS (Cult
  Of Scientology). The whole story of Xenu, for example.
  But IMO the thing that has done them the most damage,
  and may in fact bring them down eventually, is the
  policy that they first proudly proclaimed as part of
  their essential dogma, and now practice in secret,
  even though they claim that they don't. 
  
  That is their policy of Fair Game, in which anyone
  who doubts or criticizes the COS is declared an enemy
  of the Church and is therefore subject to whatever
  is necessary to demonize, silence, or marginalize
  them. With the COS, this has taken the form of lawsuits,
  planting evidence in attempts to get its critics 
  arrested, putting live rattlesnakes in critics' mail
  boxes, and much, much worse. 
  
  THAT is not just belief, or the faith of True Believers.
  THAT is embarrassing, and the stuff of paranoia and
  destructive cult behavior. And THAT is what is going 
  to eventually bring the COS organization down.
  
  My contention is that there is a similar policy in
  the TMO. It's not official, of course, and it's not
  written down anywhere, but anyone who has been an 
  actual part of the organization knows that it exists,
  and that it's religiously practiced. 
  
  TM teachers who chooses to leave the TMO are *not*
  just allowed to do so, as expressions of their own 
  free will. They are first characterized as having
  something wrong with them 

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread whynotnow7
You aren't above any of us Barry - and your two-faced routine, being a bastard 
in reality and a saint upon reflection, is getting really, really old. 

I agree with emptybill that you and Vaj are concern trolls, who have little 
interest in those here, except to stir things up. Someone like you who writes 
2300 pages a year on different points of view definitely has an agenda to 
rile things up, and stay the center of attention. I guess if that's how you get 
off, go for it, though people will see (have seen) right through you.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
  There are people on this forum and in the TMO who are 
  doing devoted in a 'Bhakti Yoga' way...
  And that devotion to the movement that Maharishi Mahesh 
  Yogi created, and the techniques they received from him, 
  and the puja, etc...
  They are devoted...
  I think they would like to be respected for their 
  devotional ways; 
 
 Why? Why would *their* beliefs need to be respected
 any more than the beliefs of anyone else? And how is
 presenting a different view a *lack* of respect?
 
  ...but then again, they don't really care, they are 
  'detatched' from what you say or do against their 
  belief and their devotion...
 
 Simply not true. IF that were true, they wouldn't so
 consistently try to demonize those who present dif-
 ferent views to their own. I think you misread my
 post; what I'm *advocating* is a lack of attachment
 to one's beliefs, and a lack of lashing out at those
 who present different beliefs. That is NOT what is
 happening on Fairfield Life among the TM cultists.
 
 And yes, I call them cultists. Because of their
 *behavior*, not their beliefs. This fair game
 policy is pretty much *textbook* cult behavior,
 and as long as they indulge in it, cultists they
 are, and cultists they will remain. 
 
  So, messing with them will get you no where, because 
  the more you try to persuade them, the more they will 
  pray for more devotion...
  So, there ya' go...
 
 You're starting to sound a little like a cultist
 yourself, Robert. I'm not trying to persuade
 them about ANYTHING. I am merely stating my honest
 opinions. At no point do I ask them to accept my
 opinion or change their own. They just react *as if*
 I had. That, too, is textbook cultist behavior.





[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread whynotnow7
Barry said, I agree. If we weren't here, none of these people would be able to 
think of anything to say. :-)

Try us. Get lost both of you for awhile and watch us wither on the vine. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  On May 20, 2011, at 4:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
   As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice
   as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into
   attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that
   we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of
   them, and they don't just bite, they *leap* onto
   the hook.
  
  And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping  
  people wake up to their own attachments.
 
 I agree. If we weren't here, none of these people
 would be able to think of anything to say.  :-)
 
  I mean, imagine the absurdity of being attached to mere meditation!
 
 Imagine the absurdity of being attached to a dead 
 guy you never met. Yet we see it here every day.





[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread whynotnow7
Vaj and Barry, in their infantile fascination with themselves, haven't figured 
our the difference between challenging ideas, and being a royal pain in the 
ass. Good luck boys, hopefully reading all of your fan mail, you can get a clue.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping
  people wake up to their own attachments.
 
 
 A Guru is born!





[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 On May 20, 2011, at 4:00 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice
  as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into
  attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that
  we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of
  them, and they don't just bite, they *leap* onto
  the hook.
 
 And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping  
 people wake up to their own attachments.

I agree. If we weren't here, none of these people
would be able to think of anything to say.  :-)

 I mean, imagine the absurdity of being attached to mere meditation!

Imagine the absurdity of being attached to a dead 
guy you never met. Yet we see it here every day.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Peter
 
Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:

And so therefore we provide a great and important
service: helping people wake up to their own attachments.

Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not, this would 
be very sad indeed. 




[FairfieldLife] Speaking of trolling...

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
A friend of mine suggested at lunch today a boondoggle 
that I think would be hilarious if we had just had enough
time to pull it off correctly.

There are a bunch of Fundies who are convinced that The
Rapture is gonna be tomorrow, right?

Well, what we should do is start posting reports tomorrow
on Twitter and Facebook and everywhere else we can think
of, reporting that we've seen thousands of people float-
ing up into the sky. 

Think how shitty it would make the Fundies feel to hear
that the Rapture came and went, and they'd been Left
Behind.  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LXuNpF6NVg




[FairfieldLife] Re: The fair game policy

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Dear Turq, interesting critique.
  Different now from a decade or two ago around here (the TM 
  Movement) is that meditating folks do not really want very 
  much from the TM org any more. So there is not that leverage 
  over people using 'that need to belong' over them.  
 
 So you've written all of these posts about being banned
 from the domes just for the fun of it, right? You never
 really *wanted* to belong when you reapplied, and when
 you write all these posts about the dome policies? :-)


Dear Turq,

Son, of course I am interested and hopeful.
You don't live here so may be you see it differently.
However, how they behave and what they do effects
a lot of my friends and certainly is relevant
to the larger Fairfield community if only in an economic
sense.  Hence, it is quite fair game to be interested in how
it is going for them and to be interested in their welfare.
And spiritually, I wish them well in the same way that I love you
from where I live.  I hope that they and you can succeed in your 
spirituality, the science seems to show that it would be
good for the world.

-Buck in FF 

 
  There is very little need for access.  
 
 See my previous paragraph. 
 
  Fewer kids needing financial aid. Just a couple hundred 
  getting money as financial aid from Howard Settle to be 
  employed as full time practicing meditators in the domes.  
  The lifer-staff people are a small circle. The lifer-staff 
  are potentially the victims remaining who could be left 
  vulnerable to spritual bullying. Generally there is no 
  longer a need to meat out access to Maharishi or access 
  to a powerful center.  
 
 Ahem. Weren't you the one who recently raved about 
 the recent Paul Horn concert as a rarity, in that
 everyone was welcome? Aren't you...uh...contradicting
 yourself a bit here?
 
  Most people of the old TM-movement have melted away.  
 
 Like gigantic ice elephants melting in the sun after 
 a yagya in Vlodrop.
 
 I kinda like that image, but doesn't all that water
 and other fluids from the meltoff tend to muddy up 
 the streets of Fairfield?  :-)
 
  Yes, there is a goodwill around about meditating...
 
 Except from you, when you fire off one of your frequent
 posts putting down non-meditators. Just sayin'...
 
  ...but, there are lots of options otherwise for 
  spiritual progress now.  
 
 There always were. Then, as now, you just can't take
 advantage of them and still be considered On The
 Program.
 
  The TM-movement is nearly irrelevant even in Fairfield...
 
 And in the world at large.
 
  ...except that they facilitate a large group meditation 
  up there, and still offer to teach a meditation to some 
  in the general public.  
 
 How long has it been since there has been an open intro
 lecture in Fairfield, at which members of the town have
 signed up to learn? Probably about the same length of
 time as in other cities around the world -- years.
 
  Yes there are some people hold up, like Bevan in Vedic 
  City and some people around him.  But not many.  Some 
  of the potential nuts who still would be inclined to 
  terrorize people are around, but not many.  As was 
  described to me by one of Bevan's direct peers in the 
  movement the other day, Bevan's lack of social skills 
  is an essential problem still.  However, over the 
  years most of the real nuts have either died, drifted 
  away, and in some cases got shunned by some of the 
  better angels in the middle.  
 
 All interesting to TM cultists, I guess, but I don't
 see how it's relevant to the Fair Game topic I 
 bring up. It's the *rank and file* of the TM movement
 I'm talking about doing the demonization, not the 
 people at the top.
 
  TM is at a different point from the cult of Scientology 
  but the similarities are instructive. Thanks. To be 
  forewarned is to be fore-armed, as the olde saying goes.  
  You've obviously seen a lot. 
 
 And, unlike some, I've tried to learn from all of it,
 whether I consider what I've seen positive or negative.
 That doesn't matter in terms of what you can learn from
 the experience.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   There are many ludicrous things about the COS (Cult
   Of Scientology). The whole story of Xenu, for example.
   But IMO the thing that has done them the most damage,
   and may in fact bring them down eventually, is the
   policy that they first proudly proclaimed as part of
   their essential dogma, and now practice in secret,
   even though they claim that they don't. 
   
   That is their policy of Fair Game, in which anyone
   who doubts or criticizes the COS is declared an enemy
   of the Church and is therefore subject to whatever
   is necessary to demonize, silence, or marginalize
   them. With the COS, this has taken the form of lawsuits,
   planting evidence in attempts to 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj


On May 20, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Peter wrote:


Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:

And so therefore we provide a great and important
service: helping people wake up to their own attachments.

Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not,  
this would be very sad indeed.



Wait till you get my bill.

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread pranamoocher
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
  You aren't above any of us Barry - and your two-faced routine, being a
bastard in reality and a saint upon reflection, is getting really,
really old.

LOL!  Spit out my coffee on that one! [:))]




[FairfieldLife] Great insight from a British TV series on magic

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
I ran across the title The 50 Greatest Magic Tricks
on my list of torrents and just couldn't resist, and
so far it's just great, including performances by some
of the greats. 

In one of the sequences on bending spoons, we get to
see Uri Geller do it, but then another magician who
stole Geller's trick and performed it many times says,
One of the stranger consequences of doing this kind 
of illusion, this kind of work, is that I myself end
being accused -- or you might say attributed -- of 
having psychic powers. And the funny thing is that it
really doesn't matter if you then say, 'No, actually 
when I do it it's just a trick,' because people don't
believe you anyway.

Bingo.




[FairfieldLife] Loebsack sees bin Laden photos

2011-05-20 Thread Alex Stanley
Loebsack sees bin Laden photos

U.S. Rep. Dave Loebsack saw the gruesome photos of Osama bin Laden's corpse 
Thursday, and he immediately concluded that President Barack Obama was right to 
withhold them from public view.

It's clear to me that if the photos were released, our troops would be in more 
jeopardy, and the chances of retaliation would be increased, he said. And it 
could put American citizens traveling abroad or living abroad in more danger as 
well.

The Iowa Democrat was invited to view the photos at CIA headquarters because he 
is a member of the House Armed Services Committee. He was the only Iowa member 
of Congress to have the opportunity.

He declined to describe the photos in detail. I think it's fair to say our 
troops did their job and did it well, he said of the shooting's results, which 
reportedly included a massive head wound.

http://tinyurl.com/44huj8k



[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread whynotnow7
Nice technique Peter, though does Vaj recognize that you gave him an easy out? 
In any case, even a joke gets old after 5+ years. He'd never make it as a 
comedian.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@... wrote:

  
 Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
 And so therefore we provide a great and important
 service: helping people wake up to their own attachments.
 
 Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not, this would 
 be very sad indeed.





[FairfieldLife] Strauss-Kahn The Stats of Rape Accusations

2011-05-20 Thread PaliGap
I have done an, admittedly crude, statistical analysis of
rape and sexual harassment accusations of rich and powerful
men in politics. I was not interested in whether the accusations
were true (they almost always are), but whether upon hearing
the charges, the intelligentsia cast scorn upon the accused
or the accusations.

Conclusion: the more the accused tends towards conservative
politics, the more we hear that it's 'The seriousness of the
charges' that matters. Guilt is assumed. Conversely, the more
the accused tends towards socialist politics, the more the women
who make the accusations are scorned, vilified, attacked.
Innocence is assumed.

William Briggs, Statistician
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=3908



[FairfieldLife] On a Positive Note- Jerry jarvis

2011-05-20 Thread richardnelson108
Now that I can stop policing Vaj for the moment (don't worry folks we know his 
silence on topics that he claims to be an expert on but really isn't will not 
last long... oh yes, he will be back!),
I just wanted to say to those who are interested that I saw Jerry last weekend 
at one of his knowledge meetings.  His presentation of the reality of life from 
both knowledge and experience is better than ever.
He is such a joy to be around.  Very grounded, practical, positive, so unlike 
the heads of the movement we now have.
Anyway, if you can ever get the chance to see him, I would recommend it.






[FairfieldLife] Re: On a Positive Note- Jerry jarvis

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... 
wrote:

 Now that I can stop policing Vaj for the moment...

Although he doesn't.

 ...(don't worry folks we know his silence on topics 
 that he claims to be an expert on but really isn't 
 will not last long... oh yes, he will be back!),
 
 I just wanted to say to those who are interested 
 that I saw Jerry last weekend at one of his knowledge 
 meetings. His presentation of the reality of life 
 from both knowledge and experience is better than ever.
 He is such a joy to be around. Very grounded, practical, 
 positive, so unlike the heads of the movement we now 
 have. Anyway, if you can ever get the chance to see 
 him, I would recommend it.

Did you notice that you could have said this without
bashing Vaj?

Did you notice how easily and effortlessly the Bashing
Vaj came to you, and how easily and effortlessly and...
dare I say it...mindlessly you performed it came to
you? There is a name for that: cult thinking.

If you had been able to tell the Jerry story without
the Bashing Vaj story, that would have been one thing.

You weren't able to. So it becomes another.





[FairfieldLife] If you're going to San Francisco...

2011-05-20 Thread PaliGap
...Don't try to get circumcised.

More from good 'ole William Briggs:
City Of Free Love To Ban Circumcision
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=3913





[FairfieldLife] Re: On a Positive Note- Jerry jarvis

2011-05-20 Thread richardnelson108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@ 
 wrote:
 
  Now that I can stop policing Vaj for the moment...
 
 Although he doesn't.
 
  ...(don't worry folks we know his silence on topics 
  that he claims to be an expert on but really isn't 
  will not last long... oh yes, he will be back!),
  
  I just wanted to say to those who are interested 
  that I saw Jerry last weekend at one of his knowledge 
  meetings. His presentation of the reality of life 
  from both knowledge and experience is better than ever.
  He is such a joy to be around. Very grounded, practical, 
  positive, so unlike the heads of the movement we now 
  have. Anyway, if you can ever get the chance to see 
  him, I would recommend it.
 
 Did you notice that you could have said this without
 bashing Vaj?
 
 Did you notice how easily and effortlessly the Bashing
 Vaj came to you, and how easily and effortlessly and...
 dare I say it...mindlessly you performed it came to
 you? There is a name for that: cult thinking.
 
 If you had been able to tell the Jerry story without
 the Bashing Vaj story, that would have been one thing.
 
 You weren't able to. So it becomes another.

You have a good point.  However, on the other hand, he has taken up so much 
space on Fairfield Life for so long with  disrespectful deliberate 
misinformation that it seemed appropriate.  Perhaps I am wrong about that.  You 
all can be the judge.



[FairfieldLife] Major community update on Maharishi Vedic Pandit Program

2011-05-20 Thread Dick Mays

Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:28:35 -0500
Subject: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS-- Invitation to a Special Event
From: Dome Announcements owner-dom...@mum.edu

Major community update on MAHARISHI VEDIC PANDIT PROGRAM in India, 
America, and Nepal

Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome
Thursday, May 26, 2011, 8 p.m.

Raja John Hagelin and Dr. Bevan Morris

With Special Guests:

Brahmachari Dr. Girish Chandra Varma, B.Sc., L.L.B., B.Mus., Ph.D. 
Leader of educational institutions in India founded by Maharishi 
including Maharishi Ved Vigyan Vishwa Vidya Peetham Trust, which has 
trained over 50,000 Maharishi Vedic Pandits, Maharishi Vidya Mandir 
School System, with over 100,000 students and 152 branches in 16 
states, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Vedic Vishwavidyalaya, a state 
university of Madhya Pradesh with an enrollment of 70,000 students


Raja Harris Kaplan, Raja of India, and a delegation of Indian educators

Mr. Deepak Baskota, Chairman of the Nepal Maharishi Vedic Foundation, 
and former State Minister for Home Affairs, Government of Nepal


Raja Kingsley Brooks, Raja of Nepal, and a delegation from Nepal

Raja Wynne, Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City and Director of the 
Maharishi Vedic Pandit program in America


Jai Guru Dev

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[FairfieldLife] Big Day Tomorrow

2011-05-20 Thread PaliGap
The rapture flow chart:

http://peasandcougars.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/will-you-be-raptured-flowchart/

http://goo.gl/gznkc



[FairfieldLife] Re: On a Positive Note- Jerry jarvis

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 
  richardnelson108@ wrote:
  
   Now that I can stop policing Vaj for the moment...
  
  Although he doesn't.
  
   ...(don't worry folks we know his silence on topics 
   that he claims to be an expert on but really isn't 
   will not last long... oh yes, he will be back!),
   
   I just wanted to say to those who are interested 
   that I saw Jerry last weekend at one of his knowledge 
   meetings. His presentation of the reality of life 
   from both knowledge and experience is better than ever.
   He is such a joy to be around. Very grounded, practical, 
   positive, so unlike the heads of the movement we now 
   have. Anyway, if you can ever get the chance to see 
   him, I would recommend it.
  
  Did you notice that you could have said this without
  bashing Vaj?
  
  Did you notice how easily and effortlessly the Bashing
  Vaj came to you, and how easily and effortlessly and...
  dare I say it...mindlessly you performed it came to
  you? There is a name for that: cult thinking.
  
  If you had been able to tell the Jerry story without
  the Bashing Vaj story, that would have been one thing.
  
  You weren't able to. So it becomes another.
 
 You have a good point.  

Thanks for getting that.

 However, on the other hand, he has taken up so much 
 space on Fairfield Life for so long with disrespectful 
 deliberate misinformation that it seemed appropriate.  

Let's pause for a moment on the word disrespectful,
shall we? What is it about your beliefs, or the beliefs
of *anyone*, that forces others to react to them with
what *they* consider respect?

Vaj is over the top. I disagree with him and his views
often. The thing is, he's *OK* with that. It has never
jeapordized our relationship as fellow human beings or
as fellow seekers. I don't argue with him about the
supposed supremacy of his view over mine, or try to 
assert the supposed supremacy of my views. I just don't
give a shit about supremacy or any of that high school
nonsense. I just have opinions. I give Vaj the right to
have his.

That does NOT mean that I can't poke fun at them from
time to time. Similarly, I can poke fun at the beliefs
of TB TMers from time to time. This does not mean that
I have not at some point in time believed the same things.
In fact I have, although I may be embarrassed at times to
admit it. My having been there, done that makes my
laughter and fun-poking more 'real' IMO. YMMV.

 Perhaps I am wrong about that. You all can be the judge.

Some can't leave it at that. They have to try to pitch
the jury, or sell their opinions to some imaginary 
judge. Isn't it a bit higher vibe to just tell your
own fuckin' stories and believe the things that you 
believe and just Not Give A Shit what others believe?

It's the need to sell your beliefs as correct or 
right that I question, along with the seemingly 
corollary need to sell those who believe otherwise
as wrong. Low vibe. Barely evolved past amoebas.
YMMV.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Olbermann's back, and as feisty as ever

2011-05-20 Thread Mike Dixon
you mean he didn't die?





From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 9:51:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Olbermann's back, and as feisty as ever

  
Olbermann is so full of himself. Talk about self-importance!

From the HuffPo piece:

At some point...it's occurred to me that the best place for
me to start doing the news...would be at a place that's just
in the news business and nothing else, he said. Just a
company that's just news and we could kind of make every
decision relying on that...and that had been at the back of
my mind for a while.

Uh-huh. I guess he hasn't looked at the CurrentTV schedule
lately:

http://current.com/schedule/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/19/keith-olbermann-on-letterman_n_864032.html
l
 
 Like, obviously, Keith Olbermann, I just can't *wait*
 for MSNBC to try to sue him for still using the name
 Countdown.

If MSNBC is going to sue him, it'll sue him, not try
to sue him. But since Comcast, its new parent, owns 10
percent of CurrentTV, chances are it'll leave him be.
And chances are Olbermann knows that. If he doesn't,
he'll likely wait in vain, as will Barry. But I suspect
Olbermann is a *lot* better informed and less prone to
fantasy confrontation than Barry is.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread Mike Dixon
G, I wanna know what that *A* stands for. 





From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 9:34:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Superhero Situation Room

  
Marvel and DC comic heroes in the Situation Room watching the Osama bin Laden 
raid raises the question, why did they need Navy Seals to do the takedown? 







[FairfieldLife] YouTube - The Rapture

2011-05-20 Thread Rick Archer
Practical advice for those expecting to be Raptured tomorrow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmX-lZOYcVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmX-lZOYcVAfeature=youtu.bet=53s
feature=youtu.bet=53s 



Re: [FairfieldLife] 'End of the World?'

2011-05-20 Thread Mike Dixon
Naaa, we've got another two years of that, at least!





From: Robert babajii...@yahoo.com
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 9:38:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'End of the World?'

  
Seems like the end of the world is upon us...?

But, what world is coming to an end?

Maybe it's the end of the 'Big Lie?'...

Perhaps its the time, when the light has gotten the upper hand...

And, the darknesses recedes on all sides, above and below...

A time of personal enlightenment, and personal power...

When the meek are inheriting the earth...

From the fear-mongers, money grubbers and ego-spinners...

The end of the forbodden power of darkness.






 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Big Day Tomorrow

2011-05-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/20/2011 11:00 AM, PaliGap wrote:
 The rapture flow chart:

 http://peasandcougars.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/will-you-be-raptured-flowchart/

 http://goo.gl/gznkc

Take some old clothes and shoes and put them out in front of your house 
tomorrow.  Works especially well if you are a well known atheist in your 
community. ;-)



Re: [FairfieldLife] Speaking of trolling...

2011-05-20 Thread Mike Dixon
Barry, your premis is not correct, there aren't a bunch of fundies expecting 
the 
rapture to happen tomorrow. Just a little handful, kind of like taters 
expecting 
to *pop* into CC like popcorn. The average *fundie* knows, no man knows the 
hour 
or day, only the Father in heaven. But knock yourself out. Call 911 and report 
a 
bunch of missing persons! Be sure to let us know what happens!





From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 6:22:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Speaking of trolling...

  
A friend of mine suggested at lunch today a boondoggle 
that I think would be hilarious if we had just had enough
time to pull it off correctly.

There are a bunch of Fundies who are convinced that The
Rapture is gonna be tomorrow, right?

Well, what we should do is start posting reports tomorrow
on Twitter and Facebook and everywhere else we can think
of, reporting that we've seen thousands of people float-
ing up into the sky. 

Think how shitty it would make the Fundies feel to hear
that the Rapture came and went, and they'd been Left
Behind. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LXuNpF6NVg




[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread jpgillam
Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree with you. 
It's pretty good.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here who would 
 like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope they can succeed.  
 
 Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it and 
 understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing at reading it all 
 as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, walking in the shoes of 
 another.  Trying to empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I found the 
 empathetic reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to anyone 
 looking in.
 
 So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using their 
 essential language that is there but slimming down the hyperbolic 
 TM-movement-ese.   Version I was the straightest most secular I could get in 
 one sentence using their words.  Version II is the mission statement off the 
 web page.  Version II is un-readable.  Version III was in between I and II 
 editing in progress.
 
 I'm just trying to help.
 
 -Buck in FF 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  
  
  I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but the one that 
  actually appears is not bad at all:
  
  About the University
  Mission Statement of the University
  
  Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi Mahesh 
  Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. Foremost among these 
  ideals is developing the full potential of consciousness in every student — 
  to help students develop the ability to think and act in accord with the 
  laws of nature and to live fulfilled and successful lives. This fulfills 
  the long-sought goal of education: to produce fully developed individuals, 
  citizens who can fulfill their own aspirations while promoting all good in 
  society.
  
  We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, Consciousness-Based 
  education, that systematically cultures students' full creative 
  intelligence, the basis of learning. Consciousness-Based education gives 
  traditional academic study the foundation of complete knowledge of 
  consciousness coupled with simple, natural, scientifically validated 
  technologies for developing consciousness.
  
  These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs, 
  including Yogic Flying. This integrated approach develops students' ability 
  to manage their lives successfully, to grow steadily in health, happiness, 
  and wisdom, and to achieve professional success and personal fulfillment.
  
  Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four broad areas of 
  responsibility:
  
  Holistic development of students — cultivation of consciousness, mind, 
  body, and behavior
  Academic excellence — training at the forefront of knowledge in each 
  discipline and in the ability to think critically and act effectively and 
  ethically
  Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, expressed in all 
  four areas of scholarship — discovery, teaching and learning, integration, 
  and application.
  Improved quality of life for the individual, the community, the nation, 
  and the world.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
  
   I'd say Craig Pearson needs to edit that mission statement. As I 
   learned when a student at Maharishi International University, the 
   mission statement is different from the strategies employed to 
   pursue that mission, and the strategies are different from the 
   tactics followed to implement the strategies. This statement 
   makes the usual mistake that most committees make, which 
   is to fail to differentiate among those elements, and instead 
   pile them all into one clusterfuck of a sentence. Craig knows 
   better. 
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   

Om, which (?) version is more read-able:




Version I:




Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi
to produce more fully developed individuals, by developing the potential
of consciousnesswithin every student through a higher educational system
of
Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a
foundation
coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental
Meditation and other scientifically validated practices taught by
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for developing consciousness.







Or,






Version II:




Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. Foremost among
these ideals is developing the full potential of consciousness in every

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Rapture

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 Practical advice for those expecting to be Raptured tomorrow:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmX-lZOYcVA
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmX-lZOYcVAfeature=youtu.bet=53s
 feature=youtu.bet=53s

If you're gonna go, you could do worse than going out
while listening to Leonard Cohen's song for the end
of the world. Really. He's said as much in interviews.

I really love his image of the end of the world as 
closing time in a sleazy bar. My kinda apocalypse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao0BdtZr2_M





Re: [FairfieldLife] Big Day Tomorrow

2011-05-20 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/20/2011 11:00 AM, PaliGap wrote:
 The rapture flow chart:

 http://peasandcougars.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/will-you-be-raptured-flowchart/

 http://goo.gl/gznkc

And remember if you can't come up with a good joke about tomorrow it 
won't be the end of the world. ;-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Day Tomorrow

2011-05-20 Thread John
A big earthquake is supposed to start the destruction in New Zealand on 
Saturday, at 6:00 PM.  That means, we should start to hear about it tonight on 
Friday, 11:00 PM, according to a news story.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 05/20/2011 11:00 AM, PaliGap wrote:
  The rapture flow chart:
 
  http://peasandcougars.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/will-you-be-raptured-flowchart/
 
  http://goo.gl/gznkc
 
 And remember if you can't come up with a good joke about tomorrow it 
 won't be the end of the world. ;-)





[FairfieldLife] If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

2011-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
Would you do anything different today than any other
day? If so, haven't you kinda wasted your life?





RE: [FairfieldLife] If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

2011-05-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of turquoiseb
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 2:57 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

 

  

Would you do anything different today than any other
day? If so, haven't you kinda wasted your life?

I would stop working right now and go take a hike in the woods with the wife
and dogs.



[FairfieldLife] Re: If you're going to San Francisco...

2011-05-20 Thread John
According to some sources, it actually doesn't hurt as much if the circumcision 
is done early after birth.  Also, this ban is probably against the religious 
rights of certain groups, particularly those of the Jews.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:

 ...Don't try to get circumcised.
 
 More from good 'ole William Briggs:
 City Of Free Love To Ban Circumcision
 http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=3913





[FairfieldLife] Re: If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

2011-05-20 Thread John
The minister who started this prediction is basically in it to get pulicity for 
himself and his church.  However, if it doesn't happen tomorrow, a personal 
rapture or samadhi will happen sometime in the near future for everyone at the 
end of his or her life here on earth.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Would you do anything different today than any other
 day? If so, haven't you kinda wasted your life?





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you're going to San Francisco...

2011-05-20 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 3:03 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: If you're going to San Francisco...

 

  

According to some sources, it actually doesn't hurt as much if the
circumcision is done early after birth. 

As reported in an impartial survey of one-week-old babies.

Also, this ban is probably against the religious rights of certain groups,
particularly those of the Jews.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:

 ...Don't try to get circumcised.
 
 More from good 'ole William Briggs:
 City Of Free Love To Ban Circumcision
 http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=3913






[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex
  Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing 
  because if you're not, this would be very 
  sad indeed.
 
Vaj:
 Wait till you get my bill.

What happens to all the money?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex


Mike Dixon:
 G, I wanna know what that *A* stands for. 
 
President Bush's democracy agenda, which Obama 
once scornfully rejected, has now been adopted 
as Obama's own:

'Barack Obama, Neocon?'
By John Hinderaker
Powerline, May 19, 2011 
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/05/029062.php



[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex


   SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT
  
  Richard, I hate to say it, but I think you just 
  re-charged Vaj's batteries.
 
raunchydog:
 Richard called Vaj on two of his favorite lies... 

Maybe it's time for Vaj to explain why he enabled 
the Muckpo of Shamballa.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
Raunch duped?  Say it ain't so.
Sal

On May 20, 2011, at 6:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote:

Raunch, I don't mean to be a stickler, but did you notice the little symbol on 
the bottom left of Superman's shirt.  That is the symbol of the anti Superman.  
This photo is not what it seems.  I haven't examined each Superhero's garb, but 
I am already finding some pretty significant inconsistencies.  I think you may 
have been duped.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 
 Marvel and DC comic heroes in the Situation Room watching the Osama bin
 Laden raid raises the question, why did they need Navy Seals to do the
 takedown?
 
 
 
 
 [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gPxf-pFqS6M/Tcp_Js9N7sI/AJA/s2Yr6oI2v\
 HA/s1600/superheroes-marvel-DC-comics-osama-bin-laden-raid-white-house-s\
 ituation-room.jpg]






[FairfieldLife] Re: Great insight from a British TV series on magic

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex


turquoiseb:
 Great insight from a British TV series on magic... 
 
I studied with a guy who could turn huge rooms in 
convention centers gold, to the point where even the 
security guards saw it, but that never made me think he 
was enlightened, only that he could do cool things with 
light...

From: Uncle Tantra
Subject: Re: Two simple questions
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2003-03-16 13:29:48 PST




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread sparaig

Sorry to not edit the below, but just wanted to emphasize the response ratio: 
one line vs spew.

L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
   
These ex-TM people who spent a decade or less in the 
TMO and then spend the rest of their lives coming to 
terms with their cult indoctrination make me scratch 
my head. 
   
   You're not a TRUE cultist until you've spent 
   at least three decades in the cult.
  
  What does it mean when you pronounce everyone else is 
  a cultist while missing that you might have issues, 
  yourself...
 
 What does it mean when current cultists feel the
 need to portray former cultists who are honest 
 enough with themselves to realized they were a 
 part of a cult and who still have some lingering
 curiosity about those who have never reached that
 point as having something *wrong* with them?
 
 I mean, there is a concerted attempt on this forum
 to portray anyone who still finds the machinations
 of current-day cultists fascinating from a curiosity
 standpoint as having something *wrong* with us. Our
 curiosity doesn't mean that we're still attached to 
 the cult or its leader or its dogma the way the 
 current-day cultists are, merely that we find those 
 who still feel that way curious.
 
 As I suggested before, it's sorta like going to a 
 high school reunion and running into people for
 whom high school was the high point of their lives.
 You've got yer popular kids (those who became TM
 teachers and worked for the TMO) who were members of
 all the right clubs and were voted Most likely to...
 and who still identify so strongly with that image
 of themselves that they attempt to pretend that they
 are still those same people, and not the owner of
 a car wash in Peoria. Then you've got yer folks who
 never fit it even back in high school (the ones who
 never became TM teachers, never did a lick of work
 for the TMO, but feel that they deserve being treated
 as if they did). They were members of the Debate Club, 
 or the National Honor Society or some other group of
 dweebs, and none of the popular kids ever wanted to 
 have anything to do with them. On some level they're 
 *still* trying to get the popular kids to accept them 
 as their equals, which is never going to happen. Even 
 sadder, at every high school reunion there is someone 
 like Ravi, who never even *went* to that high school, 
 but is so desperate for attention that he attends its 
 reunions anyway. It's all so Romy And Michele's High
 School Reunion.
 
 I'm just curious, that's all. High school (the TM
 movement) was not that big a part of my life, and
 certainly not on any level that fueled attachment. 
 But I'm still fascinated by those for whom the 
 attachment factor (and the seemingly corollary need
 to praise the similarly-attached and demonize those
 who got over it) is as present for them now as it was
 back in the heyday of TM's fleeting popularity. 
 
 All I do is point out some of the silliness of the TM
 movement, past and present. There is more than enough
 of this silliness so that I never lack for material.
 It's not the silliness *itself* that fascinates me,
 but the *reactions* to it by those who've seemingly
 never realized how much allegiance and attachment they
 have for the silliness, and how much anger they have
 towards people who do nothing but point out that it's
 ...uh...silly.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Loebsack sees bin Laden photos

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex


Alex Stanley:
 Loebsack sees bin Laden photos
 
The files show that prisoner Abu Farajal al-Libi, 
al Qaeda's No. 3 and a close aide to bin Laden, 
first disclosed the terrorist master's special 
courier to the CIA. It was the agency's ability 
to find and track the messenger that ultimately 
led a team of Navy SEALs to bin Laden's compound 
in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he was killed early 
on May 2...

Washington Times:
http://tinyurl.com/3r9cvos



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex


sparaig:
 Sorry to not edit the below, but just wanted to 
 emphasize the response ratio: one line vs spew.
 
The guilty always scream the loudest.

But, if Turq spent thirteen years in the TMO cult,
as he has claimed, it was pretty dumb of him to 
quit the TMO to join the Lenz cult and serve 
another ten years.

Atmananda often assured me that I was possessed 
by Negative Forces, that I was barely able to 
function in the real world, and that I was 
fortunate he did not drop me off at a mental 
institution. I met him in 1978, when I was 
seventeen...

Newsgroups: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
Subject: Re: Rama book
Date: Monday, July 25, 1994



[FairfieldLife] Re: Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex


Sal:
 Raunch duped?  Say it ain't so.
 
Obviously, it's a conspiracy to dupe Raunchy!

  Raunch, I don't mean to be a stickler, 
  but did you notice the little symbol 
  on the bottom left of Superman's shirt.  
  That is the symbol of the anti Superman.  
  This photo is not what it seems. I 
  haven't examined each Superhero's garb, 
  but I am already finding some pretty 
  significant inconsistencies. I think 
  you may have been duped.




[FairfieldLife] Parallel Universes

2011-05-20 Thread John
Here's an update to this concept.  Parallel universes may be infinite.  Hence, 
there may be infinite versions of you as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyrE9I8HNg

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
Says the guy who practically invented the concept. :)
Lawson, I don't really think we need to revisit why 
the posting limit was implemented in the first place...
do we? :)
Sal

On May 20, 2011, at 3:42 PM, sparaig wrote:

Sorry to not edit the below, but just wanted to emphasize the response ratio: 
one line vs spew.

L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
 These ex-TM people who spent a decade or less in the 
 TMO and then spend the rest of their lives coming to 
 terms with their cult indoctrination make me scratch 
 my head. 
 
 You're not a TRUE cultist until you've spent 
 at least three decades in the cult.
 
 What does it mean when you pronounce everyone else is 
 a cultist while missing that you might have issues, 
 yourself...
 
 What does it mean when current cultists feel the
 need to portray former cultists who are honest 
 enough with themselves to realized they were a 
 part of a cult and who still have some lingering
 curiosity about those who have never reached that
 point as having something *wrong* with them?
 
 I mean, there is a concerted attempt on this forum
 to portray anyone who still finds the machinations
 of current-day cultists fascinating from a curiosity
 standpoint as having something *wrong* with us. Our
 curiosity doesn't mean that we're still attached to 
 the cult or its leader or its dogma the way the 
 current-day cultists are, merely that we find those 
 who still feel that way curious.
 
 As I suggested before, it's sorta like going to a 
 high school reunion and running into people for
 whom high school was the high point of their lives.
 You've got yer popular kids (those who became TM
 teachers and worked for the TMO) who were members of
 all the right clubs and were voted Most likely to...
 and who still identify so strongly with that image
 of themselves that they attempt to pretend that they
 are still those same people, and not the owner of
 a car wash in Peoria. Then you've got yer folks who
 never fit it even back in high school (the ones who
 never became TM teachers, never did a lick of work
 for the TMO, but feel that they deserve being treated
 as if they did). They were members of the Debate Club, 
 or the National Honor Society or some other group of
 dweebs, and none of the popular kids ever wanted to 
 have anything to do with them. On some level they're 
 *still* trying to get the popular kids to accept them 
 as their equals, which is never going to happen. Even 
 sadder, at every high school reunion there is someone 
 like Ravi, who never even *went* to that high school, 
 but is so desperate for attention that he attends its 
 reunions anyway. It's all so Romy And Michele's High
 School Reunion.
 
 I'm just curious, that's all. High school (the TM
 movement) was not that big a part of my life, and
 certainly not on any level that fueled attachment. 
 But I'm still fascinated by those for whom the 
 attachment factor (and the seemingly corollary need
 to praise the similarly-attached and demonize those
 who got over it) is as present for them now as it was
 back in the heyday of TM's fleeting popularity. 
 
 All I do is point out some of the silliness of the TM
 movement, past and present. There is more than enough
 of this silliness so that I never lack for material.
 It's not the silliness *itself* that fascinates me,
 but the *reactions* to it by those who've seemingly
 never realized how much allegiance and attachment they
 have for the silliness, and how much anger they have
 towards people who do nothing but point out that it's
 ...uh...silly.
 




[FairfieldLife] Woman reading a letter

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
by Gabriel Metsu, 1665, Amsterdam
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/12062.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
http://lighthousebaptistchapel.com/wp-content/uploads/rapture1.jpg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 The minister who started this prediction is basically in it to get pulicity 
 for himself and his church.  However, if it doesn't happen tomorrow, a 
 personal rapture or samadhi will happen sometime in the near future for 
 everyone at the end of his or her life here on earth.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Would you do anything different today than any other
  day? If so, haven't you kinda wasted your life?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread emptybill

You talkin to me bitch? Or just strokin your shtick?



I never realized how important Vaj and you were as two great and
important bodhisattva-like people. I say like because neither
of you are Buddhists, just a couple of TM haters. But it was really Vaj
who let us know how extraordinary you both were – only here on FFL 
to remove our attachments like some rotten teeth and re-establish new,
gleaming white veneers … truth, freedom and the European way.



So should we pray to you in your own Pure Land or just wait for you to
enlighten us some more?

………


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
   On Behalf Of emptybill
  
   Richard,
  
   Calm down and consider the facts long demonstrated here on FFL.
  
   Vaj is a classic newsgroup troll ... someone whose only
   purpose is to cause everyone else to argue, to provoke
   readers to an emotional reaction and to disrupt normal
   on-topic discussion.

 Please check the description of this group on its
 home page. Nothing Vaj posts is anything other than
 on topic, according to that. What you're saying is
 that Vaj posts things you don't like.

   Vaj trolls here, along with Barry, strictly due to
   Rick choosing to allow it.
  
   He seems quite amused by their behaviors.

 As are we. Because the fish seemingly have no choice
 as to whether to bite or not. They are locked into
 attachment behaviors that run their lives. All that
 we do is dangle one of the attachments in front of
 them, and they don't just bite, they *leap* onto
 the hook.

 *And* in very predictable ways. I don't know about
 Vaj, but my schtick is to pre-announce how the TM
 TBs are going to react, throw out the bait, and then
 wait for them to demonstrate that my prediction was
 accurate. What I think you don't like is that most
 of the time it works.

  I don't know about that, but I do know that I decided long
  ago that I'm not going to police FFL. I don't have the time,
  and it is not my nature to do so. There are enough FFL
  participants representing enough points of view that the
  whole thing is self-regulating. Every perspective is
  counter-balanced by some other. My interference would
  only upset the balance. My status as a participant is
  equal to everyone else's. Some agree with my point of view;
  others don't. I don't consider it to be more right
  than others' perspectives, and certainly don't want FFL
  to be filtered through it.

 Well said. On the other hand, the folks playing pile
 on to the latest Get Vaj Fest very much DO want the
 posts at FFL filtered through their own perspective.

 Interestingly enough, that perspective is to glorify
 and amplify those who push their buttons, as opposed
 to just ignoring them, or simply countering what they
 say by sticking to the content of what they post.
 Instead, the pile on crowd here at FFL seemingly
 *cannot* simply deal with the issues raised by critics.
 They *have* to attack the critics personally.

 In doing this, they tend to elevate them, as if
 they feel the need to make them seem like bigger
 enemies. Vaj isn't Just Another Guy With An Opinion,
 he's part of an enormous Buddhist conspiracy. If
 you made a list of the things I've been accused of,
 it would probably be longer than the list of things
 that Hitler has been accused of. :-)

 I keep pushing buttons because I'm hoping someday
 that most in the TMO will finally figure out that
 they embarrass only themselves and the org they're
 trying so desperately to defend by acting out this
 Gotta get the critic behavior. It's their *own*
 self importance that makes them characterize the
 critics they perceive as enemies in a larger than
 life fashion. They cannot allow lurkers to think
 that they've gotten this bent out of shape over
 Just Another Guy With An Opinion. They have to
 make it seem as if the guy is part of some huge
 conspiracy, or mentally ill, or whatever.

 People whose beliefs are strong have no need to
 consistently demonize those who challenge them.
 Their beliefs *are* strong, and they demonstrate
 that strength of belief by just laughing, or by
 dealing with the meat of the critical points
 being raised. What they *don't* do is embarrass
 themselves and the beliefs themselves by trying
 to get the critic. That's just stupid.

 Me, I continue to allow those prone to stupidity
 to demonstrate it on this forum. As I've said
 many times, if you're trying to make a point,
 *demonstrate* it, don't claim it. The pile on
 crowd never fails to demonstrate the behavior
 I am pointing out -- the compulsive need to
 attack and demonize those who disagree with
 them. I'm betting that most here know the
 difference between that and real belief.






[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 
 You talkin to me bitch? Or just strokin your shtick?
 
 
 
 I never realized how important Vaj and you were as two great and
 important bodhisattva-like people. I say like because neither
 of you are Buddhists, just a couple of TM haters. But it was really Vaj
 who let us know how extraordinary you both were – only here on FFL 
 to remove our attachments like some rotten teeth and re-establish new,
 gleaming white veneers … truth, freedom and the European way.
 
 
 
 So should we pray to you in your own Pure Land or just wait for you to
 enlighten us some more?




This is what Jim had to say about Vaj/Turq earlier:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:



Sorry Vaj, complete BS. The Universe does not require some authentic
transmission and lineage for self realization, or teaching. That imo is a
Buddhist Ego Trip. That is why US Buddhists are so ineffective, always fussing
with their made up credentials instead of making spiritual progress. To even try
and pass judgment on Maharishi from a deluded fool such as yourself is
laughable. You oughta continue with all of your buddhist tom-foolery. It keeps
your head full of useless information and prevents you making any progress.
Enjoy!



It has nothing to do with your curiosity, about TM or cultism or anything
else. It's your psychological sadism, fueled by a desperate need to feel
superior to others, and marked by an extraordinary lack of self-knowledge.

That TM is just a convenient context for your sick behavior is made crystal
clear by the fact that your sadism isn't limited to TM-related issues.

Right on. Barry draws criticism to himself precisely because he is a jerk and
does enjoy hurting others to feel superior to them. This could be a bird
watching forum and he'd do the same thing. He once boasted that he was in touch
with his inner asshole. Despite the disturbing imagery that evokes, I agree
completely, although instead of being just in touch, he appears to be deeply in
love with that part of himself.

And once again, our FFL Psychic has determined that there are those on this
forum who criticize him, without ever reading their posts. He must be paranoid,
psychic, or a hypocrite. I'll go with hypocrite.

Or psychotic ?


 I think Barry and Vaj both have the mindset that if they are going to be
miserable, which they are, one, it can't be due to anything they are doing or
not doing, and two, if they are going to lead miserable lives, they will ensure
everyone else around them will too.

This idea that they are somehow opening the eyes of those who continue to
practice TM is so laughable it is truly crazy.









[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread emptybill

The only bill you'll get is an empty one, proselytizer.

Heh, Heh.








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:


 On May 20, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Peter wrote:

  Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  And so therefore we provide a great and important
  service: helping people wake up to their own attachments.
 
  Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not,
  this would be very sad indeed.


 Wait till you get my bill.






[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@... wrote:

 Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree with you. 
 It's pretty good.


Good for what? Internal consumption?  
Clear guidance?  
Mission?
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here who would 
  like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope they can succeed.  
  
  Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it and 
  understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing at reading it 
  all as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, walking in the shoes of 
  another.  Trying to empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I found the 
  empathetic reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to 
  anyone looking in.
  
  So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using their 
  essential language that is there but slimming down the hyperbolic 
  TM-movement-ese.   Version I was the straightest most secular I could get 
  in one sentence using their words.  Version II is the mission statement off 
  the web page.  Version II is un-readable.  Version III was in between I and 
  II editing in progress.
  
  I'm just trying to help.
  
  -Buck in FF 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   
   
   I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but the one 
   that actually appears is not bad at all:
   
   About the University
   Mission Statement of the University
   
   Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi 
   Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. Foremost among 
   these ideals is developing the full potential of consciousness in every 
   student — to help students develop the ability to think and act in accord 
   with the laws of nature and to live fulfilled and successful lives. This 
   fulfills the long-sought goal of education: to produce fully developed 
   individuals, citizens who can fulfill their own aspirations while 
   promoting all good in society.
   
   We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
   Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures students' 
   full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. Consciousness-Based 
   education gives traditional academic study the foundation of complete 
   knowledge of consciousness coupled with simple, natural, scientifically 
   validated technologies for developing consciousness.
   
   These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi 
   programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated approach develops 
   students' ability to manage their lives successfully, to grow steadily in 
   health, happiness, and wisdom, and to achieve professional success and 
   personal fulfillment.
   
   Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four broad areas 
   of responsibility:
   
   Holistic development of students — cultivation of consciousness, 
   mind, body, and behavior
   Academic excellence — training at the forefront of knowledge in each 
   discipline and in the ability to think critically and act effectively and 
   ethically
   Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, expressed in all 
   four areas of scholarship — discovery, teaching and learning, 
   integration, and application.
   Improved quality of life for the individual, the community, the 
   nation, and the world.
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
   
I'd say Craig Pearson needs to edit that mission statement. As I 
learned when a student at Maharishi International University, the 
mission statement is different from the strategies employed to 
pursue that mission, and the strategies are different from the 
tactics followed to implement the strategies. This statement 
makes the usual mistake that most committees make, which 
is to fail to differentiate among those elements, and instead 
pile them all into one clusterfuck of a sentence. Craig knows 
better. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:

 
 Om, which (?) version is more read-able:
 
 
 
 
 Version I:
 
 
 
 
 Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi
 Mahesh Yogi
 to produce more fully developed individuals, by developing the 
 potential
 of consciousnesswithin every student through a higher educational 
 system
 of
 Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a
 foundation
 coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental
 Meditation and other scientifically validated practices taught by
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for developing consciousness.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Or,
 
 
 
 
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
 
  Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree with 
  you. It's pretty good.
 
 
 Good for what? 
 Internal consumption?  
 Clear guidance?  
 Mission?


Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to describe the 
(charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. -The Nonprofit Handbook  
-Grobman
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here who would 
   like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope they can succeed.  
   
   Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it and 
   understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing at reading it 
   all as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, walking in the shoes 
   of another.  Trying to empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I found 
   the empathetic reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to 
   anyone looking in.
   
   So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using their 
   essential language that is there but slimming down the hyperbolic 
   TM-movement-ese.   Version I was the straightest most secular I could get 
   in one sentence using their words.  Version II is the mission statement 
   off the web page.  Version II is un-readable.  Version III was in between 
   I and II editing in progress.
   
   I'm just trying to help.
   
   -Buck in FF 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   


I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but the one 
that actually appears is not bad at all:

About the University
Mission Statement of the University

Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. Foremost among 
these ideals is developing the full potential of consciousness in every 
student — to help students develop the ability to think and act in 
accord with the laws of nature and to live fulfilled and successful 
lives. This fulfills the long-sought goal of education: to produce 
fully developed individuals, citizens who can fulfill their own 
aspirations while promoting all good in society.

We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures students' 
full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. Consciousness-Based 
education gives traditional academic study the foundation of complete 
knowledge of consciousness coupled with simple, natural, scientifically 
validated technologies for developing consciousness.

These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi 
programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated approach develops 
students' ability to manage their lives successfully, to grow steadily 
in health, happiness, and wisdom, and to achieve professional success 
and personal fulfillment.

Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four broad 
areas of responsibility:

Holistic development of students — cultivation of consciousness, 
mind, body, and behavior
Academic excellence — training at the forefront of knowledge in 
each discipline and in the ability to think critically and act 
effectively and ethically
Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, expressed in all 
four areas of scholarship — discovery, teaching and learning, 
integration, and application.
Improved quality of life for the individual, the community, the 
nation, and the world.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:

 I'd say Craig Pearson needs to edit that mission statement. As I 
 learned when a student at Maharishi International University, the 
 mission statement is different from the strategies employed to 
 pursue that mission, and the strategies are different from the 
 tactics followed to implement the strategies. This statement 
 makes the usual mistake that most committees make, which 
 is to fail to differentiate among those elements, and instead 
 pile them all into one clusterfuck of a sentence. Craig knows 
 better. 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  Om, which (?) version is more read-able:
  
  
  
  
  Version I:
  
  
  
  
  Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi
  Mahesh Yogi
  to produce more fully developed individuals, by developing the 
  potential
  of consciousnesswithin every student through a higher educational 
  system
  of
  

[FairfieldLife] Penglai Island

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
A mystical dwelling place of some Immortals.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/YuanJiang-Penglai_Island.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
  
   Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree with 
   you. It's pretty good.
  
  
  Good for what? 
  Internal consumption?  
  Clear guidance?  
  Mission?
 
 
 Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to describe 
 the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. -The Nonprofit 
 Handbook  -Grobman
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here who 
would like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope they can 
succeed.  

Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it and 
understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing at reading 
it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, walking in the 
shoes of another.  Trying to empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I 
found the empathetic reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of 
cult-speak to anyone looking in.

So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using their 
essential language that is there but slimming down the hyperbolic 
TM-movement-ese.   Version I was the straightest most secular I could 
get in one sentence using their words.  Version II is the mission 
statement off the web page.  Version II is un-readable.  Version III 
was in between I and II editing in progress.

I'm just trying to help.

-Buck in FF 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

 
 
 I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but the 
 one that actually appears is not bad at all:
 
 About the University
 Mission Statement of the University
 
 Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi 
 Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. Foremost 
 among these ideals is developing the full potential of consciousness 
 in every student — to help students develop the ability to think and 
 act in accord with the laws of nature and to live fulfilled and 
 successful lives. This fulfills the long-sought goal of education: to 
 produce fully developed individuals, citizens who can fulfill their 
 own aspirations while promoting all good in society.
 
 We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
 Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures students' 
 full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. 
 Consciousness-Based education gives traditional academic study the 
 foundation of complete knowledge of consciousness coupled with 
 simple, natural, scientifically validated technologies for developing 
 consciousness.
 
 These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi 
 programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated approach develops 
 students' ability to manage their lives successfully, to grow 
 steadily in health, happiness, and wisdom, and to achieve 
 professional success and personal fulfillment.
 
 Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four broad 
 areas of responsibility:
 
 Holistic development of students — cultivation of consciousness, 
 mind, body, and behavior
 Academic excellence — training at the forefront of knowledge in 
 each discipline and in the ability to think critically and act 
 effectively and ethically
 Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, expressed in 
 all four areas of scholarship — discovery, teaching and learning, 
 integration, and application.
 Improved quality of life for the individual, the community, the 
 nation, and the world.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
 
  I'd say Craig Pearson needs to edit that mission statement. As I 
  learned when a student at Maharishi International University, the 
  mission statement is different from the strategies employed to 
  pursue that mission, and the strategies are different from the 
  tactics followed to implement the strategies. This statement 
  makes the usual mistake that most committees make, which 
  is to fail to differentiate among those elements, and instead 
  pile them all into one clusterfuck of a sentence. Craig knows 
  better. 
 

Absolutely.  The MUM Trustees if they had balls should have Craig Re-write that 
cluster fucker of a mission statement in to something that is readable.

-Buck
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   
   Om, which (?) version is more read-able:
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex


  Sorry to not edit the below, but just wanted to 
  emphasize the response ratio: one line vs spew.
 
Sal:
 Lawson, I don't really think we need to revisit why 
 the posting limit was implemented in the first place...
 
So, we could at least get in a word or two edgewise, 
and limit all the spew?



[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread WillyTex
  Please check the description of this group on its
  home page. Nothing Vaj posts is anything other than
  on topic, according to that. What you're saying is
  that Vaj posts things you don't like...
 
emptybill:
 So should we pray to you in your own Pure Land...
 
Pure Land of Mukpo in Shamballa.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj

On May 20, 2011, at 9:10 PM, WillyTex wrote:

 
 Sorry to not edit the below, but just wanted to 
 emphasize the response ratio: one line vs spew.
 
 Sal:
 Lawson, I don't really think we need to revisit why 
 the posting limit was implemented in the first place...
 
 So, we could at least get in a word or two edgewise, 
 and limit all the spew?


As they say in Maine:

Well, ayuh.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj

On May 20, 2011, at 9:13 PM, WillyTex wrote:

 Please check the description of this group on its
 home page. Nothing Vaj posts is anything other than
 on topic, according to that. What you're saying is
 that Vaj posts things you don't like...
 
 emptybill:
 So should we pray to you in your own Pure Land...
 
 Pure Land of Mukpo in Shamballa.


The hidden valley in NNE coast of Cape Breton? ...


[FairfieldLife] Elvis and Queen Ratna of Nepal

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
1960
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49729.jpg



[FairfieldLife] KKK for Goldwater

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
1964
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49744.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Spike Jones, Marilyn Monroe, and Ken Murray

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
1952
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49782.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Tomorrow's big event

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
by Tom Tomorrow
http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/story.jpg




[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
   
Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree 
with you. It's pretty good.
   
   
   Good for what? 
   Internal consumption?  
   Clear guidance?  
   Mission?
  
  
  Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to describe 
  the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. -The Nonprofit 
  Handbook  -Grobman
 

Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:

1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.
   



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:

 Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here who 
 would like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope they can 
 succeed.  
 
 Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it and 
 understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing at 
 reading it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, 
 walking in the shoes of another.  Trying to empathsize with an 
 outsider looking in.  I found the empathetic reading almost 
 impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to anyone looking in.
 
 So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using 
 their essential language that is there but slimming down the 
 hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the straightest most 
 secular I could get in one sentence using their words.  Version II is 
 the mission statement off the web page.  Version II is un-readable 
 cult.  Version III was in between I and II editing in progress.
 
 I'm just trying to help.
 
 -Buck in FF 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  
  
  I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but the 
  one that actually appears is not bad at all:
  
  About the University
  Mission Statement of the University
  
  Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by Maharishi 
  Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. Foremost 
  among these ideals is developing the full potential of 
  consciousness in every student — to help students develop the 
  ability to think and act in accord with the laws of nature and to 
  live fulfilled and successful lives. This fulfills the long-sought 
  goal of education: to produce fully developed individuals, citizens 
  who can fulfill their own aspirations while promoting all good in 
  society.
  
  We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
  Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures 
  students' full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. 
  Consciousness-Based education gives traditional academic study the 
  foundation of complete knowledge of consciousness coupled with 
  simple, natural, scientifically validated technologies for 
  developing consciousness.
  
  These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi 
  programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated approach develops 
  students' ability to manage their lives successfully, to grow 
  steadily in health, happiness, and wisdom, and to achieve 
  professional success and personal fulfillment.
  
  Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four broad 
  areas of responsibility:
  
  Holistic development of students — cultivation of 
  consciousness, mind, body, and behavior
  Academic excellence — training at the forefront of knowledge in 
  each discipline and in the ability to think critically and act 
  effectively and ethically
  Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, expressed in 
  all four areas of scholarship — discovery, teaching and learning, 
  integration, and application.
  Improved quality of life for the individual, the community, the 
  nation, and the world.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
  
   I'd say Craig Pearson needs to edit that mission statement. As I 
   learned when a student at Maharishi International University, the 
   mission statement is different from the strategies employed to 
   pursue that mission, and the strategies are different from the 
   tactics followed to implement the strategies. This statement 
   makes the usual mistake that most committees make, which 
   is to fail to differentiate among those elements, and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

2011-05-20 Thread Mike Dixon
Hot Damn Buddy! You need a Savior! Just say *Yes* to Jesus! (was that 
predictable enough?)





From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 12:57:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

  
Would you do anything different today than any other
day? If so, haven't you kinda wasted your life?




[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
Zippy's Mission Statement:
http://www.dougsworld.com/zippy/yow.gif


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:

 Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree 
 with you. It's pretty good.


Good for what? 
Internal consumption?  
Clear guidance?  
Mission?
   
   
   Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to 
   describe the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. -The 
   Nonprofit Handbook  -Grobman
  
 
 Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:
 
 1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
 2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
 3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.

 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here who 
  would like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope they 
  can succeed.  
  
  Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it 
  and understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing at 
  reading it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, 
  walking in the shoes of another.  Trying to empathsize with an 
  outsider looking in.  I found the empathetic reading almost 
  impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to anyone looking in.
  
  So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using 
  their essential language that is there but slimming down the 
  hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the straightest most 
  secular I could get in one sentence using their words.  Version II 
  is the mission statement off the web page.  Version II is 
  un-readable cult.  Version III was in between I and II editing in 
  progress.
  
  I'm just trying to help.
  
  -Buck in FF 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   
   
   I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but 
   the one that actually appears is not bad at all:
   
   About the University
   Mission Statement of the University
   
   Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by 
   Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. 
   Foremost among these ideals is developing the full potential of 
   consciousness in every student — to help students develop the 
   ability to think and act in accord with the laws of nature and to 
   live fulfilled and successful lives. This fulfills the 
   long-sought goal of education: to produce fully developed 
   individuals, citizens who can fulfill their own aspirations while 
   promoting all good in society.
   
   We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
   Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures 
   students' full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. 
   Consciousness-Based education gives traditional academic study 
   the foundation of complete knowledge of consciousness coupled 
   with simple, natural, scientifically validated technologies for 
   developing consciousness.
   
   These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi 
   programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated approach 
   develops students' ability to manage their lives successfully, to 
   grow steadily in health, happiness, and wisdom, and to achieve 
   professional success and personal fulfillment.
   
   Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four 
   broad areas of responsibility:
   
   Holistic development of students — cultivation of 
   consciousness, mind, body, and behavior
   Academic excellence — training at the forefront of knowledge 
   in each discipline and in the ability to think critically and act 
   effectively and ethically
   Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, expressed 
   in all four areas of scholarship — discovery, teaching and 
   learning, integration, and application.
   Improved quality of life for the individual, the community, 
   the nation, and the world.
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ 
   wrote:
   
I'd say Craig Pearson needs to edit that mission statement. As 
I 
learned when a student at Maharishi International University, 
the 
mission statement is different from the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
http://catholic-resources.org/Students/JohnHagee/rapture.jpg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Hot Damn Buddy! You need a Savior! Just say *Yes* to Jesus! (was that 
 predictable enough?)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 12:57:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] If tomorrow really was the end of the world...
 
   
 Would you do anything different today than any other
 day? If so, haven't you kinda wasted your life?





Re: [FairfieldLife] KKK for Goldwater

2011-05-20 Thread Mike Dixon
 Was that before they knew he was a Jew?





From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 6:21:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] KKK for Goldwater

  
1964
http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49744.jpg




[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:

 Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree 
 with you. It's pretty good.


Good for what? 
Internal consumption?  
Clear guidance?  
Mission?
   
   
   Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to 
   describe the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. -The 
   Nonprofit Handbook  -Grobman
  
 
 Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:
 
 1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
 2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
 3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.

 


One sentence!
Version:

Maharishi University of Management was founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
to produce more fully developed individuals by developing the potential
of consciousness within every student through a higher educational system of
Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a foundation
coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation and 
other scientifically validated practices taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for 
developing consciousness.


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here who 
  would like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope they 
  can succeed.  
  
  Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it 
  and understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing at 
  reading it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, 
  walking in the shoes of another.  Trying to empathsize with an 
  outsider looking in.  I found the empathetic reading almost 
  impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to anyone looking in.
  
  So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using 
  their essential language that is there but slimming down the 
  hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the straightest most 
  secular I could get in one sentence using their words.  Version II 
  is the mission statement off the web page.  Version II is 
  un-readable cult.  Version III was in between I and II editing in 
  progress.
  
  I'm just trying to help.
  
  -Buck in FF 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   
   
   I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but 
   the one that actually appears is not bad at all:
   
   About the University
   Mission Statement of the University
   
   Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by 
   Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of education. 
   Foremost among these ideals is developing the full potential of 
   consciousness in every student — to help students develop the 
   ability to think and act in accord with the laws of nature and to 
   live fulfilled and successful lives. This fulfills the 
   long-sought goal of education: to produce fully developed 
   individuals, citizens who can fulfill their own aspirations while 
   promoting all good in society.
   
   We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
   Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures 
   students' full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. 
   Consciousness-Based education gives traditional academic study 
   the foundation of complete knowledge of consciousness coupled 
   with simple, natural, scientifically validated technologies for 
   developing consciousness.
   
   These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi 
   programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated approach 
   develops students' ability to manage their lives successfully, to 
   grow steadily in health, happiness, and wisdom, and to achieve 
   professional success and personal fulfillment.
   
   Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four 
   broad areas of responsibility:
   
   Holistic development of students — cultivation of 
   consciousness, mind, body, and behavior
   Academic excellence — training at the forefront of knowledge 
   in each discipline and in the ability to think critically and act 
   effectively and ethically
   Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, expressed 
   in all four areas of scholarship — discovery, teaching and 
   learning, integration, and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

2011-05-20 Thread Mike Dixon
Obviously those aren't Texans, cause we're going up with our horses!





From: Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 6:35:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: If tomorrow really was the end of the world...

  
http://catholic-resources.org/Students/JohnHagee/rapture.jpg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Hot Damn Buddy! You need a Savior! Just say *Yes* to Jesus! (was that 
 predictable enough?)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 12:57:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] If tomorrow really was the end of the world...
 
   
 Would you do anything different today than any other
 day? If so, haven't you kinda wasted your life?





[FairfieldLife] Dark Rishi II: Mahesh's downfall

2011-05-20 Thread Vaj
Marshy's first enlightened one spoke thus:

Maharishi never, to my eyes anyway, seemed, as an individual celestial or 
angelic in any way whatsoever—although it could (and did) seem as if one were 
in the presence of an archangel—but that was just the vibe I think [ROFLOL]. 
Maharishi was very much a biological man [no, so it isn't so!]. But his entire 
being, his entire existence, was IMO orchestrated by immortal intelligences 
which first made him glorious, brilliant, and near infallible, and then, when 
these same gods cruelly and gratuitously abandoned him (to the extent that they 
no longer continued to uphold his superior status in the universe—they at some 
point either were unable to do this, or they determined they were not going to 
do this), Maharishi was left to his vanity, immaturity, weakness, and 
corruption. [Towards the end, Maharishi lost his objectivity with regard to 
both himself, and reality—this at least is my reading of the spiritual downward 
spiral he and his Movement took, say, during the last 20 years of his life.]

H.H. Robin Woodsworth Carlsen, 

(once enlightened Honey Badger)

:-)




[FairfieldLife] End of the World theories

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Lifestyle/End-of-the-world-theories.aspx?cp-documentid=28779397



[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark Rishi II: Mahesh's downfall

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
http://www.fantasygallery.net/iken/art_0_swimming-dragons.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 Marshy's first enlightened one spoke thus:
 
 Maharishi never, to my eyes anyway, seemed, as an individual celestial or 
 angelic in any way whatsoever—although it could (and did) seem as if one were 
 in the presence of an archangel—but that was just the vibe I think [ROFLOL]. 
 Maharishi was very much a biological man [no, so it isn't so!]. But his 
 entire being, his entire existence, was IMO orchestrated by immortal 
 intelligences which first made him glorious, brilliant, and near infallible, 
 and then, when these same gods cruelly and gratuitously abandoned him (to the 
 extent that they no longer continued to uphold his superior status in the 
 universe—they at some point either were unable to do this, or they determined 
 they were not going to do this), Maharishi was left to his vanity, 
 immaturity, weakness, and corruption. [Towards the end, Maharishi lost his 
 objectivity with regard to both himself, and reality—this at least is my 
 reading of the spiritual downward spiral he and his Movement took, say, 
 during the last 20 years of his life.]
 
 H.H. Robin Woodsworth Carlsen, 
 
 (once enlightened Honey Badger)
 
 :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
 
  Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I agree 
  with you. It's pretty good.
 
 
 Good for what? 
 Internal consumption?  
 Clear guidance?  
 Mission?


Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to 
describe the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. 
-The Nonprofit Handbook  -Grobman
   
  
  Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:
  
  1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
  2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
  3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.
 
  
 
 
 One sentence!
 Version:
 
 Maharishi University of Management was founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 to produce more fully developed individuals by developing the potential
 of consciousness within every student through a higher educational system of
 Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a 
 foundation
 coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation and 
 other scientifically validated practices taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for 
 developing consciousness.
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here 
   who would like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope 
   they can succeed.  
   
   Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with it 
   and understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a swing 
   at reading it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  You know, 
   walking in the shoes of another.  Trying to empathsize with an 
   outsider looking in.  I found the empathetic reading almost 
   impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to anyone looking in.
   
   So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down using 
   their essential language that is there but slimming down the 
   hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the straightest most 
   secular I could get in one sentence using their words.  Version 
   II is the mission statement off the web page.  Version II is 
   un-readable cult.  Version III was in between I and II editing in 
   progress.
   
   I'm just trying to help.
   
   -Buck in FF 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   


I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from but 
the one that actually appears is not bad at all:

About the University
Mission Statement of the University

Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of 
education. Foremost among these ideals is developing the full 
potential of consciousness in every student — to help students 
develop the ability to think and act in accord with the laws of 
nature and to live fulfilled and successful lives. This 
fulfills the long-sought goal of education: to produce fully 
developed individuals, citizens who can fulfill their own 
aspirations while promoting all good in society.

We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures 
students' full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. 
Consciousness-Based education gives traditional academic study 
the foundation of complete knowledge of consciousness coupled 
with simple, natural, scientifically validated technologies for 
developing consciousness.

These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and 
TM-Sidhi programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated 
approach develops students' ability to manage their lives 
successfully, to grow steadily in health, happiness, and 
wisdom, and to achieve professional success and personal 
fulfillment.

Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four 
broad areas of responsibility:

Holistic development of students — cultivation of 
consciousness, mind, body, and behavior
Academic excellence — training at the forefront of 
knowledge in each discipline and in the ability to think 
critically and act effectively and ethically
Scholarship that expands the domains of knowledge, 
expressed in all four areas of scholarship — discovery, 
teaching and learning, integration, and application.
Improved quality of life for the individual, the community, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
Who needs Craig Pearson when better candidates are available?
http://lineout.thestranger.com/files/2008/07/rednecks.jpg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
  
   Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I 
   agree with you. It's pretty good.
  
  
  Good for what? 
  Internal consumption?  
  Clear guidance?  
  Mission?
 
 
 Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to 
 describe the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. 
 -The Nonprofit Handbook  -Grobman

   
   Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:
   
   1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
   2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
   3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.
  
   
  
  
  One sentence!
  Version:
  
  Maharishi University of Management was founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
  to produce more fully developed individuals by developing the potential
  of consciousness within every student through a higher educational system of
  Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a 
  foundation
  coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation 
  and other scientifically validated practices taught by Maharishi Mahesh 
  Yogi for developing consciousness.
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 
   wrote:
   
Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here 
who would like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope 
they can succeed.  

Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with 
it and understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a 
swing at reading it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  
You know, walking in the shoes of another.  Trying to 
empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I found the empathetic 
reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to 
anyone looking in.

So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down 
using their essential language that is there but slimming down 
the hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the 
straightest most secular I could get in one sentence using 
their words.  Version II is the mission statement off the web 
page.  Version II is un-readable cult.  Version III was in 
between I and II editing in progress.

I'm just trying to help.

-Buck in FF 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ 
wrote:

 
 
 I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from 
 but the one that actually appears is not bad at all:
 
 About the University
 Mission Statement of the University
 
 Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of 
 education. Foremost among these ideals is developing the full 
 potential of consciousness in every student — to help 
 students develop the ability to think and act in accord with 
 the laws of nature and to live fulfilled and successful 
 lives. This fulfills the long-sought goal of education: to 
 produce fully developed individuals, citizens who can fulfill 
 their own aspirations while promoting all good in society.
 
 We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
 Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures 
 students' full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. 
 Consciousness-Based education gives traditional academic 
 study the foundation of complete knowledge of consciousness 
 coupled with simple, natural, scientifically validated 
 technologies for developing consciousness.
 
 These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and 
 TM-Sidhi programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated 
 approach develops students' ability to manage their lives 
 successfully, to grow steadily in health, happiness, and 
 wisdom, and to achieve professional success and personal 
 fulfillment.
 
 Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four 
 broad areas of responsibility:
 
 Holistic development of students — cultivation of 
 consciousness, mind, body, and behavior
 Academic excellence — training at the forefront of 
 knowledge in each discipline and in the ability to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Penglai Island

2011-05-20 Thread John
The name sounds familiar.  There's another real beach resort in the Philippines 
called Panglao, which is in an island called Bohol.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote:

 A mystical dwelling place of some Immortals.
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/YuanJiang-Penglai_Island.jpg





[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote:
  
   Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I 
   agree with you. It's pretty good.
  
  
  Good for what? 
  Internal consumption?  
  Clear guidance?  
  Mission?
 
 
 Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to 
 describe the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. 
 -The Nonprofit Handbook  -Grobman

   
   Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:
   
   1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
   2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
   3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.
  
  

Having a clearly articulated mission statement 
gives one a template of purpose that can be used to initiate,
evaluate, and refine all of one's activities.
 
  
  
  One sentence!
  Version:
  
  Maharishi University of Management was founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
  to produce more fully developed individuals by developing the potential
  of consciousness within every student through a higher educational system of
  Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a 
  foundation
  coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation 
  and other scientifically validated practices taught by Maharishi Mahesh 
  Yogi for developing consciousness.
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 
   wrote:
   
Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers here 
who would like to see things work out for the movement.  I hope 
they can succeed.  

Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with 
it and understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a 
swing at reading it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  
You know, walking in the shoes of another.  Trying to 
empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I found the empathetic 
reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of cult-speak to 
anyone looking in.

So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down 
using their essential language that is there but slimming down 
the hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the 
straightest most secular I could get in one sentence using 
their words.  Version II is the mission statement off the web 
page.  Version II is un-readable cult.  Version III was in 
between I and II editing in progress.

I'm just trying to help.

-Buck in FF 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ 
wrote:

 
 
 I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from 
 but the one that actually appears is not bad at all:
 
 About the University
 Mission Statement of the University
 
 Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by 
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of 
 education. Foremost among these ideals is developing the full 
 potential of consciousness in every student — to help 
 students develop the ability to think and act in accord with 
 the laws of nature and to live fulfilled and successful 
 lives. This fulfills the long-sought goal of education: to 
 produce fully developed individuals, citizens who can fulfill 
 their own aspirations while promoting all good in society.
 
 We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
 Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures 
 students' full creative intelligence, the basis of learning. 
 Consciousness-Based education gives traditional academic 
 study the foundation of complete knowledge of consciousness 
 coupled with simple, natural, scientifically validated 
 technologies for developing consciousness.
 
 These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and 
 TM-Sidhi programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated 
 approach develops students' ability to manage their lives 
 successfully, to grow steadily in health, happiness, and 
 wisdom, and to achieve professional success and personal 
 fulfillment.
 
 Our unique educational programs fulfill a commitment to four 
 broad areas of responsibility:
 
 Holistic development of students — cultivation of 
 consciousness, mind, body, and behavior
 Academic excellence — training at the forefront of 
 knowledge in 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread raunchydog
I don't know what they were looking at in the Situation Room, but
whatever it was must have been a hair raising experience.


 
[http://s3.amazonaws.com/files.posterous.com/temp-2011-05-07/AngtvFpoADv\
ByHwFhtwecfescoHhAiyjHcccwICtdaAvrvmseGdIlzvhqHsq/What_were_they_looking\
_at_in_the_situation_room_the_night_Osama_was_killed.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=\
AKIAJFZAE65UYRT34AOQExpires=1305944406Signature=CIAK1rDGaIE46uAy%2B6Ja\
jaalBDc%3D]



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:


 Raunch, I don't mean to be a stickler, but did you notice the little
 symbol on the bottom left of Superman's shirt.  That is the symbol of
 the anti Superman.  This photo is not what it seems.  I haven't
examined
 each Superhero's garb, but I am already finding some pretty
significant
 inconsistencies.  I think you may have been duped.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
 wrote:
 
 
  Marvel and DC comic heroes in the Situation Room watching the Osama
 bin
  Laden raid raises the question, why did they need Navy Seals to do
the
  takedown?
 
 
 
 
 

[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gPxf-pFqS6M/Tcp_Js9N7sI/AJA/s2Yr6oI2v\
\
 \
 

HA/s1600/superheroes-marvel-DC-comics-osama-bin-laden-raid-white-house-s\
\
 \
  ituation-room.jpg]
 




[FairfieldLife] work in progress

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
http://bestcoolfun.blogspot.com/2011/05/awesome-art-work-in-progress.html?utm_source=wahoha.comutm_medium=referralutm_campaign=wahoha



[FairfieldLife] Re: Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread raunchydog
Forbes solves White House Situation Room photo mystery.

With 2.2 million views on Flickr and counting, the White House Situation Room 
photo is living up to all the adjectives.  It's been called iconic, riveting, 
the defining photo of Barack Obama's presidency.   It is the antithesis to the 
not-to-be released Osama bin Laden death photo.

The White House Situation Room Internet Meme:

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/hf45hfd/obama-playing-playstation#content

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 Raunch, I don't mean to be a stickler, but did you notice the little
 symbol on the bottom left of Superman's shirt.  That is the symbol of
 the anti Superman.  This photo is not what it seems.  I haven't examined
 each Superhero's garb, but I am already finding some pretty significant
 inconsistencies.  I think you may have been duped.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
 wrote:
 
 
  Marvel and DC comic heroes in the Situation Room watching the Osama
 bin
  Laden raid raises the question, why did they need Navy Seals to do the
  takedown?
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] drug free zone

2011-05-20 Thread Yifu
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p7OVNY98sBQ/TdHvEZXu0XI/BQ0/hRZ28mIEVec/s1600/Beautiful+Illustration+Artwork+%25283%2529.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:

  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ 
   wrote:
   
Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I 
agree with you. It's pretty good.
   
   
   Good for what? 
   Internal consumption?  
   Clear guidance?  
   Mission?
  
  
  Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to 
  describe the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single sentence. 
  -The Nonprofit Handbook  -Grobman
 

Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:

1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.
   
   
 
 Having a clearly articulated mission statement 
 gives one a template of purpose that can be used to initiate,
 evaluate, and refine all of one's activities.



Unsuccessful or Inadequate Mission Statements will
have these characteristics:

1 Uninspiring.
2 They are for the benefit of one person or party only.
3 They are unintelligible by outsiders.
4 They are full of trite or ordinary phrases. 


  
   
   
   One sentence!
   Version:
   
   Maharishi University of Management was founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
   to produce more fully developed individuals by developing the potential
   of consciousness within every student through a higher educational system 
   of
   Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a 
   foundation
   coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental Meditation 
   and other scientifically validated practices taught by Maharishi Mahesh 
   Yogi for developing consciousness.
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 
wrote:

 Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers 
 here who would like to see things work out for the movement.  
 I hope they can succeed.  
 
 Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right with 
 it and understand what they are saying.  But, I was taking a 
 swing at reading it all as if I were an outsider looking in.  
 You know, walking in the shoes of another.  Trying to 
 empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I found the 
 empathetic reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of 
 cult-speak to anyone looking in.
 
 So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down 
 using their essential language that is there but slimming 
 down the hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the 
 straightest most secular I could get in one sentence using 
 their words.  Version II is the mission statement off the web 
 page.  Version II is un-readable cult.  Version III was in 
 between I and II editing in progress.
 
 I'm just trying to help.
 
 -Buck in FF 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  I don't know where Doug gets these different versions from 
  but the one that actually appears is not bad at all:
  
  About the University
  Mission Statement of the University
  
  Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by 
  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of 
  education. Foremost among these ideals is developing the 
  full potential of consciousness in every student — to help 
  students develop the ability to think and act in accord 
  with the laws of nature and to live fulfilled and 
  successful lives. This fulfills the long-sought goal of 
  education: to produce fully developed individuals, citizens 
  who can fulfill their own aspirations while promoting all 
  good in society.
  
  We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
  Consciousness-Based education, that systematically cultures 
  students' full creative intelligence, the basis of 
  learning. Consciousness-Based education gives traditional 
  academic study the foundation of complete knowledge of 
  consciousness coupled with simple, natural, scientifically 
  validated technologies for developing consciousness.
  
  These technologies are the Transcendental Meditation and 
  TM-Sidhi programs, including Yogic Flying. This integrated 
  approach develops students' ability to manage their lives 
  successfully, to grow steadily in 

[FairfieldLife] We're Not Broke, Just Twisted: Extreme Wealth Inequality in America (Video) | Truthout

2011-05-20 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.truthout.org/were-not-broke-just-twisted-extreme-wealth-inequalit
y-america/1305916387 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Superhero Situation Room

2011-05-20 Thread seventhray1

Raunch, it didn't come through.  But that's what you got me for.

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atic-electricity-watching-himself-in-the-mirror.jpg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@...
wrote:

 I don't know what they were looking at in the Situation Room, but
 whatever it was must have been a hair raising experience.




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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
 
 
  Raunch, I don't mean to be a stickler, but did you notice the little
  symbol on the bottom left of Superman's shirt. That is the symbol of
  the anti Superman. This photo is not what it seems. I haven't
 examined
  each Superhero's garb, but I am already finding some pretty
 significant
  inconsistencies. I think you may have been duped.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
  wrote:
  
  
   Marvel and DC comic heroes in the Situation Room watching the
Osama
  bin
   Laden raid raises the question, why did they need Navy Seals to do
 the
   takedown?
  
  
  
  
  
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dark Rishi II: Mahesh's downfall

2011-05-20 Thread emptybill



So now it can be told. This is how petty little western dzogchen boys
play in the yard. I'm sure Namkhai finds you amazing. Bet you can
show him what is what. Bet you even have an Italian nickname
now.



It would certainly be appropriate for a fawning Mukpo lover.

……….







--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 Marshy's first enlightened one spoke thus:

 Maharishi never, to my eyes anyway, seemed, as an individual
celestial or angelic in any way whatsoever—although it could (and
did) seem as if one were in the presence of an archangel—but that
was just the vibe I think [ROFLOL]. Maharishi was very much a biological
man [no, so it isn't so!]. But his entire being, his entire existence,
was IMO orchestrated by immortal intelligences which first made him
glorious, brilliant, and near infallible, and then, when these same gods
cruelly and gratuitously abandoned him (to the extent that they no
longer continued to uphold his superior status in the universe—they
at some point either were unable to do this, or they determined they
were not going to do this), Maharishi was left to his vanity,
immaturity, weakness, and corruption. [Towards the end, Maharishi lost
his objectivity with regard to both himself, and reality—this at
least is my reading of the spiritual downward spiral he and his Movement
took, say, during the last 20 years of his life.]

 H.H. Robin Woodsworth Carlsen,

 (once enlightened Honey Badger)

 :-)






[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM 's Mission Statement redux

2011-05-20 Thread Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ 
wrote:

 Feste, thanks for pointing out the actual text in question. I 
 agree with you. It's pretty good.


Good for what? 
Internal consumption?  
Clear guidance?  
Mission?
   
   
   Make sure your idea is clear and focused.  You should be able to 
   describe the (charity's) purpose and mission in a single 
   sentence. -The Nonprofit Handbook  -Grobman
  
 
 Three elements of a Good Mission Statement:
 
 1 A mission statement should be no more than a single sentence long.
 2 It should be easily understood by a twelve year old.
 3 It should be able to be recited by memory at gunpoint.


  
  Having a clearly articulated mission statement 
  gives one a template of purpose that can be used to initiate,
  evaluate, and refine all of one's activities.
 
 
 
 Unsuccessful or Inadequate Mission Statements will
 have these characteristics:
 
 1 Uninspiring.
 2 They are for the benefit of one person or party only.
 3 They are unintelligible by outsiders.
 4 They are full of trite or ordinary phrases. 


There, that is the movement's MUM mission statement.  Pretty clearly the 
Movement's web page version of mission is to re-enforce people who are already 
tru-believers.  It's for internal consumption mostly.

 
 
   


One sentence!
Version:

Maharishi University of Management was founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
to produce more fully developed individuals by developing the potential
of consciousness within every student through a higher educational 
system of
Consciousness-Based education giving traditional academic knowledge a 
foundation
coupled with the study of consciousness through Transcendental 
Meditation and other scientifically validated practices taught by 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for developing consciousness.


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ 
 wrote:
 
  Dear Feste37, you and I are some of the only tru-believers 
  here who would like to see things work out for the 
  movement.  I hope they can succeed.  
  
  Now, both of us can read the movement stuff and be right 
  with it and understand what they are saying.  But, I was 
  taking a swing at reading it all as if I were an outsider 
  looking in.  You know, walking in the shoes of another.  
  Trying to empathsize with an outsider looking in.  I found 
  the empathetic reading almost impossible.  It is a bunch of 
  cult-speak to anyone looking in.
  
  So, I then took a swing at distilling some core things down 
  using their essential language that is there but slimming 
  down the hyperbolic TM-movement-ese.   Version I, was the 
  straightest most secular I could get in one sentence using 
  their words.  Version II is the mission statement off the 
  web page.  Version II is un-readable cult.  Version III was 
  in between I and II editing in progress.
  
  I'm just trying to help.
  
  -Buck in FF 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   I don't know where Doug gets these different versions 
   from but the one that actually appears is not bad at all:
   
   About the University
   Mission Statement of the University
   
   Maharishi University of Management was founded in 1971 by 
   Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to fulfill the highest ideals of 
   education. Foremost among these ideals is developing the 
   full potential of consciousness in every student — to 
   help students develop the ability to think and act in 
   accord with the laws of nature and to live fulfilled and 
   successful lives. This fulfills the long-sought goal of 
   education: to produce fully developed individuals, 
   citizens who can fulfill their own aspirations while 
   promoting all good in society.
   
   We have pioneered a unique system of higher education, 
   Consciousness-Based education, that systematically 
   cultures students' full creative intelligence, the basis 
   of learning. Consciousness-Based education gives 
   traditional academic study the foundation of complete 
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: On a Positive Note- Jerry jarvis

2011-05-20 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108
richardnelson108@... wrote:

 Now that I can stop policing Vaj for the moment (don't worry folks we
know his silence on topics that he claims to be an expert on but really
isn't will not last long... oh yes, he will be back!),


Well he just fed, so it could be up to a week before he'll need another
full meal.



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