[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, everything becomes a POV or opinion even it is downright lies, deception, sarcasm, mockery of something simple. No wonder the 3rd/9th axis in astrology attracted me so much since I struggled with it so much myself to integrate these opposing forces, 3rd for intellect, diplomacy and 9th for morals, ethics. An out and out intellectual has hard time with morals, ethics and taking a stand. I would had no problem if you viewed it as entertainment or examined the film's creative, artistic side, but so stamp it as a POV instead of agenda is just crap. Oh BTW I think both you and Rick consistently show an inability to take an ethical stand (unless it's a dead guy like M) to maintain this persona of Mr. Nice Guy, Rick at least surprised me by taking a stand against this movie, guess I have to wait for a lng time to see you to take a clear stand against something. Sure Judy and Nabby come against each of you guys persistently and strongly but they do have a point that neither of you seem to acknowledge, at least publicly. Fair, balanced, keeping both aisles happy always comes with an inherent danger of appearing wimpy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
You get an insight into his character you get nowhere else . OMG at least you are honest, you have a hard time taking a stand against the behavior of some here but are always up for character analysis and any scoop, however blatantly false on a person, in the name of being fair and balanced, a person who is here no more, a person who can't defend himself against the Judiths and Davids of this world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: So, enough of this for now and the future, if it's fruitful for one person, it's worth it. If not, forgive my indulgence. Fruitful, fruitful! You continue to be a huge addition to the content here Mark. Your exchange with Robin on your experiences with Maharishi were fascinating. I was surprised to learn that Bevan wasn't a skin boy. I thought that was one of his claims to fame when he was first with Maharishi in India. The mega intense world at Maharishi's door is so worthy of a book, many books for each person who wants to tell this story. One of the most fascinating books I have read was by Mao's personal physician. You get an insight into his character you get nowhere else. Same for you guys in the hot seat carrying the hot seat. Any details you sprinkle here will fall on many delighted ears. I enjoy your divine experiences as much as any insights into the more human side of Maharishi. Ah, yes, first the easy way out. Thank you, Ravi, for your well wishes on the sandals, but let's go into epistemology. And, of course, Robin does so eloquently in a subsequent response, which beautifully exemplifies the not so easy way out and will not be as easy for me to reply to. It's all Mark. None of it could be MMY. Mark must be an imbecile not to see this. (Should I even reply to this email? Let's see if it might be fruitful...) In order to make it fruitful, I guess I have to bring up spiritual maturity again, previously alluded to as developed being. I believe in discernment. I believe that, with true, sincere discernment, one can more and more approach an objective appreciation of the truth. And I know, quite directly, that using real discernment to winnow judgement and projection from reality ain't easy. I also believe in what Robin called (will call) meta-psychological effect, the profound resonance and repercussions that can ensue when our highly developed inner truth meter, if we have the spiritual maturity to have developed one, encounters a deeper truth than we have yet allowed ourselves to assimilate. So, just as an example, if I say M slept with women and got sexually frustrated when he couldn't get any, what kind of statement is this? Is it purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? Only discernment can cut through it all if one really wants the truth. Of course it's not necessary to really want the truth. I believe that most people don't. Why did so many skin boys get disillusioned? Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of the man. Bevan never really became skin boy. He always wanted to, but was spared that. Most of the skin boys got close enough to the man to see his underbelly. And it wasn't as pretty as we all thought it was. So, yes, my statement above is either true or false. I leave that for each to decide for yourselves. Is it purely my projection? I, obviously, don't believe so. For me, there is such overwhelming evidence, that, as I said, I believe it simply to be true. Is it moral judgement? This gets trickier. Can I make the above statement with no moral judgement? I believe that would be the sign of true spiritual maturity. Have I attained that? Let's say I'm still working on it. Is it subjective, objective? For me, both. Is it cavil? I would say that depends on one's real motivation, and who can know another's? I came to the decision, long ago, that, in the case of MMY, it really would be liberating for many people to know God's simple truth, the actual reality of what occurred. Cavil would come from hurt, smallness, venality, self-loathing, etc., etc., etc. Can I say that I have eliminated all elements of cavil from everything I say about him? Let's say that's something else I'm still working on. Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? Perhaps, I had an experience with M about just that at the San Diego Zoo. Maybe I'll get to recount that sometime. But, for me, the truth became more important than my next life. If that's what's meant to be, so be it. We all must take the consequences of everything we do, no? So, enough of this for now and the future, if it's fruitful for one person, it's worth it. If not, forgive my indulgence. m On Jul 21, 2011, at
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals TRUTH
Tough luck, you are not going to get much of a response here unless you can gives us some dirt on M. What do you mean by my own experience? What kind of a strange beast is that? Do you have any proof of this my own experience that you reference here? Don't you realize the pain of the victims here, the abuse, humiliation, manipulation of the innocent, hapless, unsuspecting, gullible at the hands of M? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@... wrote: For me, the only truth that's relevant is my own experience. Having never met Maharishi, nor had any particular desire to one way or the other, the techniques he brought out, at least in my life, are phenomenal. That's all that matters to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Ah, yes, first the easy way out. Thank you, Ravi, for your well wishes on the sandals, but let's go into epistemology. And, of course, Robin does so eloquently in a subsequent response, which beautifully exemplifies the not so easy way out and will not be as easy for me to reply to. It's all Mark. None of it could be MMY. Mark must be an imbecile not to see this. (Should I even reply to this email? Let's see if it might be fruitful...) In order to make it fruitful, I guess I have to bring up spiritual maturity again, previously alluded to as developed being. I believe in discernment. I believe that, with true, sincere discernment, one can more and more approach an objective appreciation of the truth. And I know, quite directly, that using real discernment to winnow judgement and projection from reality ain't easy. I also believe in what Robin called (will call) meta-psychological effect, the profound resonance and repercussions that can ensue when our highly developed inner truth meter, if we have the spiritual maturity to have developed one, encounters a deeper truth than we have yet allowed ourselves to assimilate. So, just as an example, if I say M slept with women and got sexually frustrated when he couldn't get any, what kind of statement is this? Is it purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? Only discernment can cut through it all if one really wants the truth. Of course it's not necessary to really want the truth. I believe that most people don't. Why did so many skin boys get disillusioned? Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of the man. Bevan never really became skin boy. He always wanted to, but was spared that. Most of the skin boys got close enough to the man to see his underbelly. And it wasn't as pretty as we all thought it was. So, yes, my statement above is either true or false. I leave that for each to decide for yourselves. Is it purely my projection? I, obviously, don't believe so. For me, there is such overwhelming evidence, that, as I said, I believe it simply to be true. Is it moral judgement? This gets trickier. Can I make the above statement with no moral judgement? I believe that would be the sign of true spiritual maturity. Have I attained that? Let's say I'm still working on it. Is it subjective, objective? For me, both. Is it cavil? I would say that depends on one's real motivation, and who can know another's? I came to the decision, long ago, that, in the case of MMY, it really would be liberating for many people to know God's simple truth, the actual reality of what occurred. Cavil would come from hurt, smallness, venality, self-loathing, etc., etc., etc. Can I say that I have eliminated all elements of cavil from everything I say about him? Let's say that's something else I'm still working on. Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? Perhaps, I had an experience with M about just that at the San Diego Zoo. Maybe I'll get to recount that sometime. But, for me, the truth became more important than my next life. If that's what's meant to be, so be it. We all must take the consequences of everything we do, no? So, enough of this for now and the future, if it's fruitful for one person, it's worth it. If not, forgive my indulgence. m On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:32 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote: As much as I would love to see Mark getting the max $ for M's sandals, I would certainly have to agree with Ted. Mark seems pretty one-dimensional. With my limited experiences I can just can't comprehend the things Mark says about M unless he was acting out against M when his ego was hurt or he is just so plain stupid that he doesn't understand basic spiritual principles. Reveling in paradoxes *doesn't * mean moral judgement of others. Reveling in paradoxes is a highly internal experience, the paradoxes of love and hate and all the other conflicting emotions seen as a pure witness. Compare Mark's moral judgement of Judith as
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
Hmm..I guess this is the same Dr. Jane Goodall that gave my mother the stupid Gandhi-King award. I would really get sick and tired of watching that stupid video at Amma's programs which was geared toward the pain projecting liberals fascinated by the likes of Gandhi, King and projecting her as a humanitarian, LOL, what games the Gurus have to play.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Back atcha brother from the saint of my own Chimp Church denomination, Jane Goodall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr350j7Ya5E
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals TRUTH
Ravi, what are you thinking here? While it is an assumption, it seems reasonable to conclude that everyone 'has their own experience'; what else would they have? I have never had anyone else's experience, only my own. Maybe everyone else is a dark, conscious-less robot that just seems to resemble my own internal state. It is late at night for me here, maybe you are being ironic, and I am too tired to notice. I have been troubleshooting a wireless connexion between a Macintosh laptop and an HP Printer, and I know almost nothing about Macs. It worked however, thanks to people I do not know on forums other than this. Didn't you know that the unified field is the home of all victims. It is particularly fond of the gullible. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Tough luck, you are not going to get much of a response here unless you can gives us some dirt on M. What do you mean by my own experience? What kind of a strange beast is that? Do you have any proof of this my own experience that you reference here? Don't you realize the pain of the victims here, the abuse, humiliation, manipulation of the innocent, hapless, unsuspecting, gullible at the hands of M? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@ wrote: For me, the only truth that's relevant is my own experience. Having never met Maharishi, nor had any particular desire to one way or the other, the techniques he brought out, at least in my life, are phenomenal. That's all that matters to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'A Spade is a spade'...Let's call it...that.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: Let's call it like it is...since the assasination of JFK, certain forces have been in power in the United States... These forces create a lot of 'Dirty Money'... What I mean by 'dirty money' is money gotten by the 'Military Industrial Complex, the Drug Business and Big Pharma, the Industrial Prison Complex, the Medicine for Profit Industry, the Bankers who look the other way, the Oil Industry and so on... Maharishi used to comment on the 'money vibe' and how the money was gotten...dirty money continues to buy dirty things, or things which are anti-life, depleted of Shakti and Prana/// So, it is these forces which goven the money supply and the puppets who guard the money supply, like hawks, the republicans... They hide themselves in closets of puritanicalism, and Jesus when they are against everything which Jesus ever taught... Their [power] is diminishing now, as the facade is unmasked day by day,, with the continued intensification of 'Being' in the collective consciousness, along with the internet, is providing a 'New Space' for creating a different kind of system, which will not be based on fear and scarcity... J.G.D. Much correct in this. The old forces of evil is being driven underground as we speak and the forces of light take back their respected place due to Maharishi's and the Masters of Wisdom tireless efforts. Benjamin Creme's Master describes this very well in his last message for June 2011: The way of the future by the Master , through Benjamin Creme, 8 May 2011 In a very few years time, the present period of stress and hardship will be much allayed. Behind the scenes, much is changing. Many of the forces which have brought about the conflict and struggle of today are weakening, and are being replaced by forces altogether more favourable to men. So many different energies, and direction of these energies, are simultaneously involved at the present moment that it is difficult to ascertain precisely when this change will begin, but it should not be much more than about two years before the first clear signs of change are discernable. There will follow a period of change which few would conceive possible in so short a period of time: the present upsurge of demands for freedom and involvement in their own destiny which has been manifested so strongly by the people of the Middle East will sweep across the world and involve country after country, large and small. Thus will the Voice of the People grow ever stronger and more eloquent. More and more, men and women everywhere will begin to understand clearly their needs and their invincible strength to claim their birthright. Inevitably, some countries will find the changes easier to achieve than will others. Some will find that the groups who, for centuries, have wielded power and built their citadels of wealth will be loath to relinquish that supremacy, but the forces for change will become so insistent and unstoppable that they, too, will have to alter their direction and adjust to the demands of their people. New society Thus a new society will evolve with remarkable speed, one that holds sacred the right of all people to self-determination, the democratic right to involvement in their society and their future; their right to adequate living standards, healthcare and education. Above all, men will claim the right to live in peace. Maitreya will sustain men in their demands for justice and freedom and will magnetise their every effort. As He did in Cairo, He will be with all who make their demands in peace, respecting all groups and all religions, without rancour and competition. Thus will men come to understand the way of the future, the only way which will guarantee that future, a future shared by all, without division. (Read more articles by the Master) Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi, 1989
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Mark - Thanks for your reply. I have to clarify that at no point I suggested or would ever imply that you were an imbecile or reborn as a donkey for the things you said about MMY otherwise I wouldn't have wished for your success. I hope I can try to address your points and further clarify my thoughts. So, just as an example, if I say M slept with women and got sexually frustrated when he couldn't get any, what kind of statement is this? Is it purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? M slept with women would be reality and portrayal of his behavior as sexual frustration is just a judgment and most likely your projection. Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of the man I wouldn't have revised the estimation, that would be swinging to the other direction, I would have doubted my initial estimation. I explained before how a Satguru as a perfect mirror, of pure awareness, would cause an array of dizzying, bewildering, conflicting emotions. However if one is aware we would find this opportunity in our day to day interactions. Any person or situation that causes bewildering, conflicting emotions would be our Guru, would point to the core pains that haven't been healed within us. This will definitely happen in any loving, intimate relationship and a relationship with someone like M definitely surpasses that. In my life my ex caused these kind of emotions, I madly loved her, so my initial estimation of her was very positive but soon over the years, she caused me lot of grief which caused me to revise my estimation like you. I was bitter, angry, miserable. But eventually I realized that all these emotions were all mine, she was who she was, but by her very nature she created this array of emotions in me, she was much more of a Guru than my Guru Ammachi. Now I just look at her, I just look at the reality, untainted, undisturbed by my own pain. Once I was healed, I was free to truly act without projecting any of my pains, I was free of the grip, grip of my own fears, insecurities, pains reflected by the other, which can only be caused by a deep intimate relationship. A deep intimate relationship where the center falls to the other, a great start but not the end, the end isn't until the center falls back in to you, into your own core. Till you are tethered to the other, the fascination continues, the blame continues, since you are not to blame. How could you be blamed? You are innocent, gullible, you are a victim, the other is to blame, the other is responsible. And the drama continues. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Ah, yes, first the easy way out. Thank you, Ravi, for your well wishes on the sandals, but let's go into epistemology. And, of course, Robin does so eloquently in a subsequent response, which beautifully exemplifies the not so easy way out and will not be as easy for me to reply to. It's all Mark. None of it could be MMY. Mark must be an imbecile not to see this. (Should I even reply to this email? Let's see if it might be fruitful...) In order to make it fruitful, I guess I have to bring up spiritual maturity again, previously alluded to as developed being. I believe in discernment. I believe that, with true, sincere discernment, one can more and more approach an objective appreciation of the truth. And I know, quite directly, that using real discernment to winnow judgement and projection from reality ain't easy. I also believe in what Robin called (will call) meta-psychological effect, the profound resonance and repercussions that can ensue when our highly developed inner truth meter, if we have the spiritual maturity to have developed one, encounters a deeper truth than we have yet allowed ourselves to assimilate. So, just as an example, if I say M slept with women and got sexually frustrated when he couldn't get any, what kind of statement is this? Is it purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? Only discernment can cut through it all if one really wants the truth. Of course it's not necessary to really want the truth. I believe that most people don't. Why did so many skin boys get disillusioned? Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of the man. Bevan never really became skin boy. He always wanted to, but was spared that. Most of the skin boys got close enough to the man to see his underbelly. And it wasn't as pretty as we all thought it was. So, yes, my statement above is either true or false. I leave that for each to decide for yourselves. Is it purely my projection? I, obviously, don't believe so. For me, there is such overwhelming evidence, that, as I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals TRUTH
Xeno - yes I was being sarcastic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Ravi, what are you thinking here? While it is an assumption, it seems reasonable to conclude that everyone 'has their own experience'; what else would they have? I have never had anyone else's experience, only my own. Maybe everyone else is a dark, conscious-less robot that just seems to resemble my own internal state. It is late at night for me here, maybe you are being ironic, and I am too tired to notice. I have been troubleshooting a wireless connexion between a Macintosh laptop and an HP Printer, and I know almost nothing about Macs. It worked however, thanks to people I do not know on forums other than this. Didn't you know that the unified field is the home of all victims. It is particularly fond of the gullible. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Tough luck, you are not going to get much of a response here unless you can gives us some dirt on M. What do you mean by my own experience? What kind of a strange beast is that? Do you have any proof of this my own experience that you reference here? Don't you realize the pain of the victims here, the abuse, humiliation, manipulation of the innocent, hapless, unsuspecting, gullible at the hands of M? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnt johnlasher20002000@ wrote: For me, the only truth that's relevant is my own experience. Having never met Maharishi, nor had any particular desire to one way or the other, the techniques he brought out, at least in my life, are phenomenal. That's all that matters to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals TRUTH
Didn't you know that the unified field is the home of all victims. It is particularly fond of the gullible. A good one !!! Yep I was being sarcastic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Ravi, what are you thinking here? While it is an assumption, it seems reasonable to conclude that everyone 'has their own experience'; what else would they have? I have never had anyone else's experience, only my own. Maybe everyone else is a dark, conscious-less robot that just seems to resemble my own internal state. It is late at night for me here, maybe you are being ironic, and I am too tired to notice. I have been troubleshooting a wireless connexion between a Macintosh laptop and an HP Printer, and I know almost nothing about Macs. It worked however, thanks to people I do not know on forums other than this. Didn't you know that the unified field is the home of all victims. It is particularly fond of the gullible.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you were a lurker...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Line through air is the party line. Barry prefers line etched in stone, and that is why he has become a but head, saying, But...but...but... regarding anything positive about TMO or Maharishi. Can't let it go after 40 plus years. Both the Turqo and Vaj represent the old and stale energy which is on it's way out from earth. See the lecture by Creme's Master in an earlier post above.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anniversary 1st man on the moon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: There are some people, including Srila Prabhupada, who think that the moon landing was a hoax. FWIW, Prabhupada thought that the Moon was further away than the Sun. He also thought that there are spiritual beings and water on the Moon. As such, in vedic literature, the Moon is the significator of soma and abundance here on Earth. Had Prabhupada known about astronaut butt molds, he would have reconsidered his belief the moon landings were a hoax. It's proof that NASA was serious about completing a successful mission as well as cover ass. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/08/astronautbutts/ Apollo 11 Eagle 20 July 1969 Apollo 12 Intrepid19 November 1969 Apollo 14 Antares 5 February 1971 Apollo 15 Falcon 30 July 1971 Apollo 16 Orion 21 April 1972 Apollo 17 Challenger 11 December 1972 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: On the anniversary of the first man on the moon, and with the final space shuttle mission set to end Thursday, Wired.com takes a look back at the extraordinary amount of training astronauts go through before they are mission ready. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/07/moon-landing-gallery/ He has a beautiful name - Maharishi commenting on Prahbupada. Says it all really.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Zombie in My Gas Tank
Bob - Sorry you are one of the last I'm responding to, that's not because I love you the least, quite the opposite. I was just too touched by your love, attachment and innocence. I didn't want to cause you any more pain by my hasty response. I can be see how you are attached to this project, I know how you came to FFL trying to woo Robin for this project of yours. I also remember how you got rebuffed, and in that frustration latched on to someone who showed you love and kindness. Thanks for clarifying the story on Echo and Narcissus - very beautiful. I can only discourage you, I can't stop you from fantasizing on your only hope for the show. Oh how gullible you are Bob, just pay attention to the lake in the story, a little assignment for you, you will probably know why I'm causing this attachment and the array of bewildering emotions in you, and why you think I'm the right choice for your show. Don't lose hope, you see how Curtis and Mark lured Robin back from his seclusion. You need to put in a little effort, be more open, forthcoming, share your powerful stories of M with him, the roller coaster ride with him. You will endear yourself to him, and you will hit the jackpot. Robin, MZ, TM's Prodigal Pimp, Unity to ignorance, riches to rags story, a man at the mercy of the the powerful evil yogi M and the mystical deceitful Vedic gods, a zombie to a human story, the redeeming compassion of Aquinas and Summa, wow, a perfect opening !!! But this mad, raving, roving Ravi Yogi, a #21 on batgap, the man of his own destiny - poor choice, yet - I'm touched, really touched by your innocent gesture, I just have no more words left. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Ravi, Thank you for giving my proposal serious consideration. I can't say its not a blow to my plans for Zombie, but I believe I will somehow rise from the ashes. Also thank you for your thoughtful suggestions for alternative guests. Unfortunately, as exceptional as many of these guests would be, I don't think they could command the kind of ratings a real star like yourself would generate for a launch. As I'm sure you know, a show like this will live or die by its ratings. These days celebrity is everything and frankly who besides you and a certain Zebra have the shear wattage needed to but bums in the seats. You obviously understand, but for lurkers out there I should clarify the metaphor that is Zombie In My Gas Tank. As previously stated the forum will discuss all issues relating to emotional intelligence (EI). As I believe most people have noticed-thanks to the Internet, there is no shortage of  real smart asses out there. FFL is just one manifestation of this phenomenon. But how many fully understand the power of giving of walking a mile in someones sandals? I see Zombie as a metaphor for the narcissus and echo virus that lives in all of us. A quote from the Internet explains more: Concerned about the baby's welfare, Leirope (Narcissus mother) went to consult the oracle called Teiresias regarding her son's future. Teiresias told the nymph that Narcissus would live to a ripe old age, as long as he never knew himself.  More at: http://thanasis.com/echo.htm I agree, the world seems to be divided into the self absorbed and their enablers but IMO the real story is that both these characteristic live in all of us until we can find the empathy for others needed shed this bondage. I have not completely given up on the possibility of securing you as a guest but of course that is for another post. In the meantime I believe St Francis said it better than I ever could. Lord, make me a channel of thy peace. That where there is hatred I may bring love, That where there is wrong, I may bring the spirit of forgiveness, That where there is discord, I may bring harmony, That where there is error I may bring truth, That where there is doubt I may bring faith, That where there is despair I may bring hope, That where there are shadows I may bring light, That where there is sadness I may bring joy. Lord, grant that I may seek rather to comfort than to be comforted, To understand than to be understood, To love than to be loved. For it is by forgetting self that one finds. It is by forgiving that one is forgiven, it is by dying that one awakens to eternal life. Amen. Â
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Next Phase of Fiscal Crisis: Government dips into...
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[FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a billion-dollar blockbuster. - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through Transcendental Meditation Wiki: Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. in 1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with the NIMH as a Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4] Rosenthal eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of spring fever. [5][6]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Nailed it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Mark - Thanks for your reply. I have to clarify that at no point I suggested or would ever imply that you were an imbecile or reborn as a donkey for the things you said about MMY otherwise I wouldn't have wished for your success. I hope I can try to address your points and further clarify my thoughts. So, just as an example, if I say M slept with women and got sexually frustrated when he couldn't get any, what kind of statement is this? Is it purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? M slept with women would be reality and portrayal of his behavior as sexual frustration is just a judgment and most likely your projection. Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of the man I wouldn't have revised the estimation, that would be swinging to the other direction, I would have doubted my initial estimation. I explained before how a Satguru as a perfect mirror, of pure awareness, would cause an array of dizzying, bewildering, conflicting emotions. However if one is aware we would find this opportunity in our day to day interactions. Any person or situation that causes bewildering, conflicting emotions would be our Guru, would point to the core pains that haven't been healed within us. This will definitely happen in any loving, intimate relationship and a relationship with someone like M definitely surpasses that. In my life my ex caused these kind of emotions, I madly loved her, so my initial estimation of her was very positive but soon over the years, she caused me lot of grief which caused me to revise my estimation like you. I was bitter, angry, miserable. But eventually I realized that all these emotions were all mine, she was who she was, but by her very nature she created this array of emotions in me, she was much more of a Guru than my Guru Ammachi. Now I just look at her, I just look at the reality, untainted, undisturbed by my own pain. Once I was healed, I was free to truly act without projecting any of my pains, I was free of the grip, grip of my own fears, insecurities, pains reflected by the other, which can only be caused by a deep intimate relationship. A deep intimate relationship where the center falls to the other, a great start but not the end, the end isn't until the center falls back in to you, into your own core. Till you are tethered to the other, the fascination continues, the blame continues, since you are not to blame. How could you be blamed? You are innocent, gullible, you are a victim, the other is to blame, the other is responsible. And the drama continues. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: Ah, yes, first the easy way out. Thank you, Ravi, for your well wishes on the sandals, but let's go into epistemology. And, of course, Robin does so eloquently in a subsequent response, which beautifully exemplifies the not so easy way out and will not be as easy for me to reply to. It's all Mark. None of it could be MMY. Mark must be an imbecile not to see this. (Should I even reply to this email? Let's see if it might be fruitful...) In order to make it fruitful, I guess I have to bring up spiritual maturity again, previously alluded to as developed being. I believe in discernment. I believe that, with true, sincere discernment, one can more and more approach an objective appreciation of the truth. And I know, quite directly, that using real discernment to winnow judgement and projection from reality ain't easy. I also believe in what Robin called (will call) meta-psychological effect, the profound resonance and repercussions that can ensue when our highly developed inner truth meter, if we have the spiritual maturity to have developed one, encounters a deeper truth than we have yet allowed ourselves to assimilate. So, just as an example, if I say M slept with women and got sexually frustrated when he couldn't get any, what kind of statement is this? Is it purely my projection? Is it a moral judgement? Is it objective? Is it subjective? Is it true? Is it false? Is it cavil? Will I be reborn a donkey for saying it? Only discernment can cut through it all if one really wants the truth. Of course it's not necessary to really want the truth. I believe that most people don't. Why did so many skin boys get disillusioned? Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of the man. Bevan never really became skin boy. He always wanted to, but was spared that. Most of the skin boys got close enough to the man to see his underbelly. And it wasn't as pretty as we all thought it was. So, yes, my statement above is either true or false.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Reminds me of the comment I made the other day. I am an orange juice addict and can drink a quart a day or more. I purchased some at a store and it tasted bitter, leading me to remark that it tasted as if someone pithed in it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: LOL..I really enjoy your pithy humor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Vaj's doctor: This is the last time I'm removing your head from up there, Vaj. Besides, you are causing curvature of your spine and severe neck strain by doing this so often. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:43 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: The mega intense world at Maharishi's door is so worthy of a book, many books for each person who wants to tell this story. One of the most fascinating books I have read was by Mao's personal physician. You get an insight into his character you get nowhere else. Same for you guys in the hot seat carrying the hot seat. Any details you sprinkle here will fall on many delighted ears. I enjoy your divine experiences as much as any insights into the more human side of Maharishi. All the more reason to try to get an interview with Mahapatra who was M's personal physician and witness to all sorts of controversial (some might even say evil) behavior.
Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a billion-dollar blockbuster. - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through Transcendental Meditation Wiki: Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. in 1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with the NIMH as a Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4] Rosenthal eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of spring fever. [5][6] If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with a wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward side effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug. TM would be eventually be classified as a Schedule I drug in the US, with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin. There are dangerous drugs which are put on and kept on the market because although they have a profile where the dangerous side effects are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8 hours a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before going into activity after taking the drug, something good is happening or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug.
[FairfieldLife] Re: If you were a lurker...
Damn - I wish that old stale energy as you put it would stick around - it makes for such good jokes when contrasted with normal life... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Line through air is the party line. Barry prefers line etched in stone, and that is why he has become a but head, saying, But...but...but... regarding anything positive about TMO or Maharishi. Can't let it go after 40 plus years. Both the Turqo and Vaj represent the old and stale energy which is on it's way out from earth. See the lecture by Creme's Master in an earlier post above.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anniversary 1st man on the moon
Great - love that photo! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: There are some people, including Srila Prabhupada, who think that the moon landing was a hoax. FWIW, Prabhupada thought that the Moon was further away than the Sun. He also thought that there are spiritual beings and water on the Moon. As such, in vedic literature, the Moon is the significator of soma and abundance here on Earth. Had Prabhupada known about astronaut butt molds, he would have reconsidered his belief the moon landings were a hoax. It's proof that NASA was serious about completing a successful mission as well as cover ass. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/08/astronautbutts/ Apollo 11 Eagle 20 July 1969 Apollo 12 Intrepid19 November 1969 Apollo 14 Antares 5 February 1971 Apollo 15 Falcon 30 July 1971 Apollo 16 Orion 21 April 1972 Apollo 17 Challenger 11 December 1972 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: On the anniversary of the first man on the moon, and with the final space shuttle mission set to end Thursday, Wired.com takes a look back at the extraordinary amount of training astronauts go through before they are mission ready. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/07/moon-landing-gallery/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Why fear clowns, and give them such a big scary title as rakshasas? Once you project them as more powerful than you, game over. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas, as M would have said... They are on a twisted destructive journey of who knows where...except to amp up fear and trepidation, what they live on... Time warrents an all out asault of the 'Light of God' to conteract this very dark force, which is revealing itself, in all its meaness and lack of any compassion... r.
Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Tom Pall wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a billion-dollar blockbuster. - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through Transcendental Meditation Wiki: Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. in 1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with the NIMH as a Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4] Rosenthal eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later studied the psycho- physiological phenomena of spring fever. [5][6] If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with a wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward side effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug. TM would be eventually be classified as a Schedule I drug in the US, with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin. There are dangerous drugs which are put on and kept on the market because although they have a profile where the dangerous side effects are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8 hours a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before going into activity after taking the drug, something good is happening or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug. LOL! Actually, if TM were a drug there'd be massive lawsuits as it was found out the research results were fudged and/or faked to exaggerate the desire outcome. Sound crazy? This is actually what happened quite recently when TM researchers were found fudging data to make TM look better than it ever was. An old trend in this very dishonest org - ever since Keith Wallace was found manipulating the baseline on TM research of metabolic rate, falsely making it look like TM reduced metabolic rate wildly. It turns out TM reduces metabolic rate no differently than napping (which is actually what the majority of TMers are doing). Of course some anonymous person would leak the chart found in of the FFL files section which shows that TM is actually the worst of all techniques for reducing BP. Even regular mantra meditation was better! WTF? TM TBs would start laying on the train tracks in FF again and trying to jump from the three story buildings downtown. Overdoses of Amrit Kalash would send physicians scrambling for insulin. Sidhas would introduce garlic into their diets and begin mating like rabbits. MUM students would burn their silk asana pants in campus-wide protests. Robin Carlsen would drop pamphlets on the dome, while blasting Lady Gaga from loudspeakers. The pamphlets would be so long, no one would read them and everything would return to normal.
[FairfieldLife] Extremism in the defense of liberty is no sin.
The Subject line is my reworking of Barry Goldwater's famous Extremism in the defense of liberty is no sin. I found that sentiment curious when he expressed it, and I find certain aspects of spiritual Internet forums equally curious when they seem to swing behind my Subject line. On forum after forum after forum -- NOT limited to FFL -- I have seen seeker after seeker after seeker think nothing of spending the vast majority of their posts ragging on someone who doesn't believe the same things he or she does about the spiritual path, one particular teacher along that path, or even mundane politics. Flame wars are sadly more the rule than the exception. I saw this even on an invitation-only forum composed primarily of Catholic priests. Like FFL, that forum was a free speech zone, on which priests could anonymously talk about things that might have gotten them defrocked or even excommunicated if they had spoken them openly in a church, or among their Church peers. And while there was mutual respect, because they were all essentially heretics even to be on this forum, flame wars and ad hominem reared their ugly heads. One of the trends I've been noticing lately (you know how I love to look for trends) -- again NOT just on FFL -- is that some multi-decade spiritual seekers seem to have come away from their travels along the path feeling that pretty much anything is fair game when it comes to defending the ideas they believe in or the teachers who taught these things to them. They seem to think that it's perfectly OK to call the people who disagree with them childish names, or indulge in long character assassination vendettas to discredit them in the eyes of other posters. OK, this is an indisputable trend. Even the folks who might indulge in it here (myself being one of them in the past, and trying to learn from it) would probably agree with this. The real subject of this post is what I see as a corollary trend. The same people who *consistently* use a forum to badmouth people who disagree with their ideas about a path or teacher are coincidentally the same people who *consistently* contribute the fewest positive posts about the path or teacher they are defending. On some forums, it's like there are brigades of seekers whose marching song is Onward Christian Soldiers, or on others, Onward Vedic Soldiers. They seem to *get off* on their chosen path primarily by indulging in (or creating) battles between the True Believers and the infidels or heretics. Some make up names for the individual heretics, or group names into which to bag them for the purposes of demonization. Anti-TMers or Buddhists are two of the latter that spring to mind when thinking of FFL. And yet. When you analyze the posts of these spiritual warriors, fighting so long and so diligently to defend the path or teacher they revere, I think if you pay attention to the consistent content of their posts there is rarely anything said that actually *presents a case for* the path or teacher they are supposedly defending, and thus promoting. Their consistent focus is almost always against someone who challenges the path/teacher or criticizes them, and rarely ever for. It's like they never give any intro lectures. Some even come up with reasons why. The idea of casting one's pearls before swine has been presented lately as a justification for why they don't ever write anything positive about the path or teacher they revere. Well, you'll have to excuse me, but that 'tude speaks volumes to me about how that particular path or teacher views anyone who doesn't agree with them -- as swine. That, to me, is not really the effective intro lecture I'd be looking for to convince me of the positive benefits of the path or teacher in question. I don't think that this behavior -- focusing on the against while never quite stating what they are for -- is likely to change. It hasn't, in spiritual circles, pretty much since they were invented. But I do think it's a tad unproductive, and not just because it turns off lurkers who might have been more interesting in a for intro lecture. Why I think it's unproductive comes from my time as a Judo student. If you spend all your time pushing against your opponent, you are almost by definition off balance all the time. All that the opponent has to do is step out of the way and you fall on your face. Similarly, on forums where people have stepped out of the way by refusing to continue to engage in the battles other posters might attempt to lure them into, or reacting with a Zen Is that so? attitude to ad hominems, in my experience as a watcher of trends, the consistent against folks consistently *keep* pushing against. Often they're fighting against imaginary opponents, because the people they're trying to demonize or goad into an argument just *aren't there* for them any more. They've moved on to more productive conversations. I guess all I'm suggesting in this little cafe rap -- not seeking to change anything, just to
[FairfieldLife] Re: If TM were a drug?
Vaj: Overdoses of Amrit Kalash would send physicians scrambling for insulin... You're not even making any sense. Everyone knows that the brain produces drugs all the time. And, everyone knows that the Vedic literature extols the Soma decoction. So, cut the bullshit. In fact it has been proven that TM practice can balance the secretion of serotonin. This has been proven and the results published in peer-reviewed journals. Apparently, the secret of the Soma has been lost since well before 1500 B.C., when the Aryan speakers migrated from Persia into India. Ever since then, various substitutes have been developed in India, up to and including, Yoga, which apparently stimulates the production of Serotonin in the brain, which in turn produces a marked sense of well-being. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
[FairfieldLife] Negativity in the pursuit of the positive is no sin
The Subject line is my reworking of Barry Goldwater's famous Extremism in the defense of liberty is no sin. I found that sentiment curious when he expressed it, and I find certain aspects of spiritual Internet forums equally curious when they seem to swing behind my Subject line. On forum after forum after forum -- NOT limited to FFL -- I have seen seeker after seeker after seeker think nothing of spending the vast majority of their posts ragging on someone who doesn't believe the same things he or she does about the spiritual path, one particular teacher along that path, or even mundane politics. Flame wars are sadly more the rule than the exception. I saw this even on an invitation-only forum composed primarily of Catholic priests. Like FFL, that forum was a free speech zone, on which priests could anonymously talk about things that might have gotten them defrocked or even excommunicated if they had spoken them openly in a church, or among their Church peers. And while there was mutual respect, because they were all essentially heretics even to be on this forum, flame wars and ad hominem reared their ugly heads. One of the trends I've been noticing lately (you know how I love to look for trends) -- again NOT just on FFL -- is that some multi-decade spiritual seekers seem to have come away from their travels along the path feeling that pretty much anything is fair game when it comes to defending the ideas they believe in or the teachers who taught these things to them. They seem to think that it's perfectly OK to call the people who disagree with them childish names, or indulge in long character assassination vendettas to discredit them in the eyes of other posters. OK, this is an indisputable trend. Even the folks who might indulge in it here (myself being one of them in the past, and trying to learn from it) would probably agree with this. The real subject of this post is what I see as a corollary trend. The same people who *consistently* use a forum to badmouth people who disagree with their ideas about a path or teacher are coincidentally the same people who *consistently* contribute the fewest positive posts about the path or teacher they are defending. On some forums, it's like there are brigades of seekers whose marching song is Onward Christian Soldiers, or on others, Onward Vedic Soldiers. They seem to *get off* on their chosen path primarily by indulging in (or creating) battles between the True Believers and the infidels or heretics. Some make up names for the individual heretics, or group names into which to bag them for the purposes of demonization. Anti-TMers or Buddhists are two of the latter that spring to mind when thinking of FFL. And yet. When you analyze the posts of these spiritual warriors, fighting so long and so diligently to defend the path or teacher they revere, I think if you pay attention to the consistent content of their posts there is rarely anything said that actually *presents a case for* the path or teacher they are supposedly defending, and thus promoting. Their consistent focus is almost always against someone who challenges the path/teacher or criticizes them, and rarely ever for. It's like they never give any intro lectures. Some even come up with reasons why. The idea of casting one's pearls before swine has been presented lately as a justification for why they don't ever write anything positive about the path or teacher they revere. Well, you'll have to excuse me, but that 'tude speaks volumes to me about how that particular path or teacher views anyone who doesn't agree with them -- as swine. That, to me, is not really the effective intro lecture I'd be looking for to convince me of the positive benefits of the path or teacher in question. I don't think that this behavior -- focusing on the against while never quite stating what they are for -- is likely to change. It hasn't, in spiritual circles, pretty much since they were invented. But I do think it's a tad unproductive, and not just because it turns off lurkers who might have been more interesting in a for intro lecture. Why I think it's unproductive comes from my time as a Judo student. If you spend all your time pushing against your opponent, you are almost by definition off balance all the time. All that the opponent has to do is step out of the way and you fall on your face. Similarly, on forums where people have stepped out of the way by refusing to continue to engage in the battles other posters might attempt to lure them into, or reacting with a Zen Is that so? attitude to ad hominems, in my experience as a watcher of trends, the consistent against folks consistently *keep* pushing against. Often they're fighting against imaginary opponents, because the people they're trying to demonize or goad into an argument just *aren't there* for them any more. They've moved on to more productive conversations. I guess all I'm suggesting in this little cafe rap -- not seeking to change anything, just to
[FairfieldLife] What I'm for
On another forum, I am reading posts by people I once taught meditation with, but who, unlike me, kept doing it. It's been an interesting experience, one that has caused me to recapitulate my life and try to figure out why. One of the reasons I gave up teaching was that I didn't feel that I had a framework within which to teach. I was a member of no sangha or spiritual organization, and had no particular path or teacher to cite as an authority or represent. I'm a loner, and my path is as solitary as I am; it's a hodge-podge of things I've learned from a number of different paths, and resonated with enough to add them to my own home-grown philosophy. Unless you've got major charisma (I don't) or major hubris (ditto, I hope), it's tough to teach meditation or spirituality in the modern marketplace without having some framework within which to teach it, or some lineage to represent. But another reason was that I really didn't know what I'd teach. I know how to teach several forms of meditation, but wasn't really attached enough to any of them to present them as the method or the best method. I could cite books I'd read or talks I'd heard from other teachers, but I couldn't point to a single one of them that I'd recommend as representing the spiritual path or the best way to walk it. Today, just for the fuck of it, I thought I'd spend some time in this cafe thinking about some of the things I *would* feel comfortable presenting as potentially valuable things I've learned from 50+ years following a generally spiritual path: * Meditation might be of benefit to you. There are many forms of it, and I do not recommend any of them over another. Whatever works -- for you -- to calm the mind and allow your body to settle down and chill a bit. If nothing else, chilling is good. But meditation can have many other benefits as well, some of which might be of interest. * If you want to be happy, try to spend more time thinking of and doing for others than you spend thinking of and doing for yourself. The thing they didn't teach you growing up (in most cases) is that selfless service and doing nice things for other people GETS YOU HIGH. And, unlike drugs or other ways to get high, it has no nasty side effects, and is not likely to land you in a jail cell with a roommate named Bubba who wears lipstick and makes you afraid to fall asleep. * Self importance is not nearly as important as it might first appear. If spiritual teachers or spiritual paths go out of their way to convince you how important you are by believing what they believe, you might just want to pay less attention to that than the fact that you're just one more voice in a trillion-voice choir, singing on a very tiny ball in infinite space. * If you find yourself thinking I know a lot, about any subject, consider the possibility that you really don't, and see where that leads you. * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I would have no problem citing the Buddha on this one, and agreeing with him. * Try to err, when you err -- and we all do -- on the side of compassion. I would similarly have no problem citing Rama, although he didn't always walk his talk, on this one. * Don't be afraid to take chances and break the rules from time to time if something in you feels that there might be benefit in doing so. There really might. * Don't Panic. Douglas Adams got this one right. So did the cheerleader in American Beauty who said, Everything that's supposed to happen will, eventually. Things are not necessarily nearly as scary and as serious as they sometimes appear. Learning to just kick back and go with the ride is often what turns a mere A-ticket ride at Disneyland into an E-ticket ride. * Don't forget about laughter. If the spiritual path you have chosen is no longer FUN for you, and if you don't find yourself laughing out loud for no reason other than the sheer joy of it all fairly often, you might just have taken a turn on the path that -- for you -- isn't in the direction you originally wanted to go. I'm sure I could come up with more bullet points, but these will do -- for me -- for now. What are yours?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: On another forum, I am reading posts by people I once taught meditation with, but who, unlike me, kept doing it. It's been an interesting experience, one that has caused me to recapitulate my life and try to figure out why. One of the reasons I gave up teaching was that I didn't feel that I had a framework within which to teach. I was a member of no sangha or spiritual organization, and had no particular path or teacher to cite as an authority or represent. I'm a loner, and my path is as solitary as I am; it's a hodge-podge of things I've learned from a number of different paths, and resonated with enough to add them to my own home-grown philosophy. Unless you've got major charisma (I don't) or major hubris (ditto, I hope), it's tough to teach meditation or spirituality in the modern marketplace without having some framework within which to teach it, or some lineage to represent. But another reason was that I really didn't know what I'd teach. I know how to teach several forms of meditation, but wasn't really attached enough to any of them to present them as the method or the best method. I could cite books I'd read or talks I'd heard from other teachers, but I couldn't point to a single one of them that I'd recommend as representing the spiritual path or the best way to walk it. Today, just for the fuck of it, I thought I'd spend some time in this cafe thinking about some of the things I *would* feel comfortable presenting as potentially valuable things I've learned from 50+ years following a generally spiritual path: * Meditation might be of benefit to you. There are many forms of it, and I do not recommend any of them over another. Whatever works -- for you -- to calm the mind and allow your body to settle down and chill a bit. If nothing else, chilling is good. But meditation can have many other benefits as well, some of which might be of interest. * If you want to be happy, try to spend more time thinking of and doing for others than you spend thinking of and doing for yourself. The thing they didn't teach you growing up (in most cases) is that selfless service and doing nice things for other people GETS YOU HIGH. And, unlike drugs or other ways to get high, it has no nasty side effects, and is not likely to land you in a jail cell with a roommate named Bubba who wears lipstick and makes you afraid to fall asleep. * Self importance is not nearly as important as it might first appear. If spiritual teachers or spiritual paths go out of their way to convince you how important you are by believing what they believe, you might just want to pay less attention to that than the fact that you're just one more voice in a trillion-voice choir, singing on a very tiny ball in infinite space. * If you find yourself thinking I know a lot, about any subject, consider the possibility that you really don't, and see where that leads you. * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I would have no problem citing the Buddha on this one, and agreeing with him. * Try to err, when you err -- and we all do -- on the side of compassion. I would similarly have no problem citing Rama, although he didn't always walk his talk, on this one. * Don't be afraid to take chances and break the rules from time to time if something in you feels that there might be benefit in doing so. There really might. * Don't Panic. Douglas Adams got this one right. So did the cheerleader in American Beauty who said, Everything that's supposed to happen will, eventually. Things are not necessarily nearly as scary and as serious as they sometimes appear. Learning to just kick back and go with the ride is often what turns a mere A-ticket ride at Disneyland into an E-ticket ride. * Don't forget about laughter. If the spiritual path you have chosen is no longer FUN for you, and if you don't find yourself laughing out loud for no reason other than the sheer joy of it all fairly often, you might just have taken a turn on the path that -- for you -- isn't in the direction you originally wanted to go. I'm sure I could come up with more bullet points, but these will do -- for me -- for now. What are yours? You talk too much?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Robert: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas... You can keep your Hindu religious biases out of U.S. politics, Robert. This is a free country, Sir. Nobody here has to abide by your notions of caste, class, skin color, or birth circumstances. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:00 AM, wgm4u wg...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: On another forum, I am reading posts by people I once taught meditation with, but who, unlike me, kept doing it. It's been an interesting experience, one that has caused me to recapitulate my life and try to figure out why. One of the reasons I gave up teaching was that I didn't feel that I had a framework within which to teach. I was a member of no sangha or spiritual organization, and had no particular path or teacher to cite as an authority or represent. I'm a loner, and my path is as solitary as I am; it's a hodge-podge of things I've learned from a number of different paths, and resonated with enough to add them to my own home-grown philosophy. Unless you've got major charisma (I don't) or major hubris (ditto, I hope), it's tough to teach meditation or spirituality in the modern marketplace without having some framework within which to teach it, or some lineage to represent. But another reason was that I really didn't know what I'd teach. I know how to teach several forms of meditation, but wasn't really attached enough to any of them to present them as the method or the best method. I could cite books I'd read or talks I'd heard from other teachers, but I couldn't point to a single one of them that I'd recommend as representing the spiritual path or the best way to walk it. Today, just for the fuck of it, I thought I'd spend some time in this cafe thinking about some of the things I *would* feel comfortable presenting as potentially valuable things I've learned from 50+ years following a generally spiritual path: * Meditation might be of benefit to you. There are many forms of it, and I do not recommend any of them over another. Whatever works -- for you -- to calm the mind and allow your body to settle down and chill a bit. If nothing else, chilling is good. But meditation can have many other benefits as well, some of which might be of interest. * If you want to be happy, try to spend more time thinking of and doing for others than you spend thinking of and doing for yourself. The thing they didn't teach you growing up (in most cases) is that selfless service and doing nice things for other people GETS YOU HIGH. And, unlike drugs or other ways to get high, it has no nasty side effects, and is not likely to land you in a jail cell with a roommate named Bubba who wears lipstick and makes you afraid to fall asleep. * Self importance is not nearly as important as it might first appear. If spiritual teachers or spiritual paths go out of their way to convince you how important you are by believing what they believe, you might just want to pay less attention to that than the fact that you're just one more voice in a trillion-voice choir, singing on a very tiny ball in infinite space. * If you find yourself thinking I know a lot, about any subject, consider the possibility that you really don't, and see where that leads you. * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I would have no problem citing the Buddha on this one, and agreeing with him. * Try to err, when you err -- and we all do -- on the side of compassion. I would similarly have no problem citing Rama, although he didn't always walk his talk, on this one. * Don't be afraid to take chances and break the rules from time to time if something in you feels that there might be benefit in doing so. There really might. * Don't Panic. Douglas Adams got this one right. So did the cheerleader in American Beauty who said, Everything that's supposed to happen will, eventually. Things are not necessarily nearly as scary and as serious as they sometimes appear. Learning to just kick back and go with the ride is often what turns a mere A-ticket ride at Disneyland into an E-ticket ride. * Don't forget about laughter. If the spiritual path you have chosen is no longer FUN for you, and if you don't find yourself laughing out loud for no reason other than the sheer joy of it all fairly often, you might just have taken a turn on the path that -- for you -- isn't in the direction you originally wanted to go. I'm sure I could come up with more bullet points, but these will do -- for me -- for now. What are yours? You talk too much? Well said. You aren't like Turk, Rory, RC and Ravi paid by the word, are you?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
I'm sure I could come up with more bullet points, but these will do -- for me -- for now. What are yours? wgm4u: You talk too much? It's a real challenge, trying to be a TM teacher on a Yahoo! News Forum, Billy. :-) Notes for readers: Here is the TMers pledge that all graduates of TM Teacher Training are required to sign before becoming TM teachers. The TM Teacher's Pledge: It is my fortune, Guru Dev, that I have been accepted to serve the Holy Tradition and spread the Light of God to all those who need it. It is my joy to undertake the responsibility of representing the Holy Tradition in all its purity as it has been given to me by Maharishi and I promise on your altar, Guru Dev, that with all my heart and mind I will always work within the framework of the Organisations founded by Maharishi. And to you, Maharishi, I promise that as a guide I will be faithful in all ways to the trust that you have placed in me. Source: Malnak v. Yogi U.S. District Court, District of New Jersey, Civil Action No. 76-341 Kropinski v. Yogi U.S. District Court, District of Columbia, Consolidated Civil Action Nos. 85-2848-852854
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
turquoiseb: On another forum... Did you forget to crosspost to alt.atheism? Subject: Re: This post is not about atheism! Author: Jigme Dorje Newsgroups: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy Date: July 20, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/m8gx76
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Curtis, In your new Avatar as the Mr. Nice Guy, Are you trying to parrot Judy's Mr. Wonderful putdown to score points with her? That is so cute. Usually opening with a vague ad hominem would make me skip the rest but if you are going for a pat on the head, I'll indulge you a bit more. everything becomes a POV or opinion even it is downright lies, deception, sarcasm, No, you missed my point about the distinction between agenda, which means an underlying ideological plan and a documentarian's POV. I don't believe that we have evidence for the claim that he came into the project with a the bias that he acquired from his interaction with a group you were never a part of for a guru you never met in a movie neither of us has seen. mockery of something simple. I mock both simple and complex bad ideas. If you feel I have been remiss in the complex ones lately, I'll take a crack at astrology for you. No wonder the 3rd/9th axis in astrology attracted me so much since I struggled with it so much myself to integrate these opposing forces, 3rd for intellect, diplomacy and 9th for morals, ethics. Arising concurrently with divination by sheep intestines by a superstitious pre-scientific culture, astrology is an attempt to reduce the complexity of reality into a simplistic formula that can be understood by a person like Nancy Reagan, because the challenges of that complexity made her anxious. How was that Ravi, did I take out Mr. Nice guy AND mock something complex at the same time or what? An out and out intellectual has hard time with morals, ethics and taking a stand. I have not found this to be the case having read Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle, who was known as a bit of a thinker. I would had no problem if you viewed it as entertainment or examined the film's creative, artistic side, but so stamp it as a POV instead of agenda is just crap Is this the movie neither of us has seen about a group you never were a part of for a guru you never met? I made my point about this distinction. So make yours. What evidence do you have that this documentarian had an agenda? (You don't get to say it is crap again, you already used that big gun.) We both have access to his interviews about the movie which is how I formed my opinion. So do your homework and make your case. . Oh BTW I think both you and Rick consistently show an inability to take an ethical stand Curious complaint. My discussions on the problem with religious beliefs and authoritarian belief systems have ethical implications. But perhaps I don't get your point. Can you show me some examples of ethical stands you have taken here as a model for my future improved behavior? And while you are putting that together perhaps I can take a crack at it. Your not understanding the role Dr. Martin Luther King had in pushing the civil rights agenda of African Americans in this country can be understood as your not being born here and not much of a reader of history. But for an Indian to not understand the value Gandhi had in liberating India from the British so that you could come here and work in a high tech field instead of standing behind an old English fart filling his scotch glasses with your white gloved hand as an inferior human under the jack boot of the colonial Raj, is a disgusting insult to the millions of Indians who Gandhi lead in passive resistance at the cost of many lives. So how did I do? Again I'm hoping for a twofer on that piece. Not nice and an ethical stand. (unless it's a dead guy like M) to maintain this persona of Mr. Nice Guy, See how my example accomplished both since you are alive. Rick at least surprised me by taking a stand against this movie, Yes but I need to point out that Rick is still very nice about it so doesn't he get Mr. Nice Guy demerits? (Sorry to rat you out Rick but I'm not taking the Mr. Nice Guy heat alone.) guess I have to wait for a lng time to see you to take a clear stand against something. Not so long, I took a clear stand against you above. Sure Judy and Nabby come against each of you guys persistently and strongly but they do have a point that neither of you seem to acknowledge, at least publicly. You are rambling a bit here. I acknowledge Judy all the time, what point do you mean? I don't always respond when Nabbie calls me a Hillbilly, that is true. Fair, balanced, keeping both aisles happy always comes with an inherent danger of appearing wimpy. Well I pretty much am consistent in pissing off certain people here so I don't know what you mean here. My POV is well established by now. And if you think that seeing certain things as too complex to reduce to a simplistic formula of bad and good is wimpy, then we don't share the same values in what makes a man intellectually strong. You seem a bit confused in what you are
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:00 AM, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: On another forum, I am reading posts by people I once taught meditation with, but who, unlike me, kept doing it. It's been an interesting experience, one that has caused me to recapitulate my life and try to figure out why. One of the reasons I gave up teaching was that I didn't feel that I had a framework within which to teach. I was a member of no sangha or spiritual organization, and had no particular path or teacher to cite as an authority or represent. I'm a loner, and my path is as solitary as I am; it's a hodge-podge of things I've learned from a number of different paths, and resonated with enough to add them to my own home-grown philosophy. Unless you've got major charisma (I don't) or major hubris (ditto, I hope), it's tough to teach meditation or spirituality in the modern marketplace without having some framework within which to teach it, or some lineage to represent. But another reason was that I really didn't know what I'd teach. I know how to teach several forms of meditation, but wasn't really attached enough to any of them to present them as the method or the best method. I could cite books I'd read or talks I'd heard from other teachers, but I couldn't point to a single one of them that I'd recommend as representing the spiritual path or the best way to walk it. Today, just for the fuck of it, I thought I'd spend some time in this cafe thinking about some of the things I *would* feel comfortable presenting as potentially valuable things I've learned from 50+ years following a generally spiritual path: * Meditation might be of benefit to you. There are many forms of it, and I do not recommend any of them over another. Whatever works -- for you -- to calm the mind and allow your body to settle down and chill a bit. If nothing else, chilling is good. But meditation can have many other benefits as well, some of which might be of interest. * If you want to be happy, try to spend more time thinking of and doing for others than you spend thinking of and doing for yourself. The thing they didn't teach you growing up (in most cases) is that selfless service and doing nice things for other people GETS YOU HIGH. And, unlike drugs or other ways to get high, it has no nasty side effects, and is not likely to land you in a jail cell with a roommate named Bubba who wears lipstick and makes you afraid to fall asleep. * Self importance is not nearly as important as it might first appear. If spiritual teachers or spiritual paths go out of their way to convince you how important you are by believing what they believe, you might just want to pay less attention to that than the fact that you're just one more voice in a trillion-voice choir, singing on a very tiny ball in infinite space. * If you find yourself thinking I know a lot, about any subject, consider the possibility that you really don't, and see where that leads you. * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I would have no problem citing the Buddha on this one, and agreeing with him. * Try to err, when you err -- and we all do -- on the side of compassion. I would similarly have no problem citing Rama, although he didn't always walk his talk, on this one. * Don't be afraid to take chances and break the rules from time to time if something in you feels that there might be benefit in doing so. There really might. * Don't Panic. Douglas Adams got this one right. So did the cheerleader in American Beauty who said, Everything that's supposed to happen will, eventually. Things are not necessarily nearly as scary and as serious as they sometimes appear. Learning to just kick back and go with the ride is often what turns a mere A-ticket ride at Disneyland into an E-ticket ride. * Don't forget about laughter. If the spiritual path you have chosen is no longer FUN for you, and if you don't find yourself laughing out loud for no reason other than the sheer joy of it all fairly often, you might just have taken a turn on the path that -- for you -- isn't in the direction you originally wanted to go. I'm sure I could come up with more bullet points, but these will do -- for me -- for now. What are yours? You talk too much? Well said. You aren't like Turk, Rory, RC and Ravi paid by the word, are you? Well, you can't help these air signs sometimes,(I think Turq is a Gemini). I had a Gemini friend who *wouldn't* (couldn't) stop talking, add to that, air signs are constantly ruminating over things are are sometimes too cerebral, at lest Turq is coherent and his posts flow
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas, as M would have said... They are on a twisted destructive journey of who knows where...except to amp up fear and trepidation, what they live on... Time warrents an all out asault of the 'Light of God' to conteract this very dark force, which is revealing itself, in all its meaness and lack of any compassion... r. That's funny, I was just going to say the same thing about Democrats...but add *phony* to the list, shaazam!
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote: Well, you can't help these air signs sometimes,(I think Turq is a Gemini). I had a Gemini friend who *wouldn't* (couldn't) stop talking, add to that, air signs are constantly ruminating over things are are sometimes too cerebral, at lest Turq is coherent and his posts flow logically.(notice I didn't say 'Air-head'). Turq, who BTW thinks that astrology is a big, stinking pile of bullshit, although an occasionally entertaining pile of bullshit, is a Sagittarius. One of the bullshit astrological raps I've read that entertained me was someone trying to distinguish between the Sag and the Scorpio guy. She characterized both as somewhat fickle in their relationships with the other sex, saying that both would be prone to sleeping with a different woman every night, and telling each of them that they loved them. The difference, in her view, is that the Sagittarius really meant it, every time. Just as a question, do you consider your posts today in response to my What I'm for post examples of positivity, and reflective of what you're for? I ask because they've seemed more than a little on the negative and put-down side of things than anything else. Am I missing something. What is it that YOU are for? Or is that asking too much of you? Might I suggest that others on this forum similarly watch the reaction to my suggestion that the anti posters on this forum seem incapable of ever posting anything that they are for? My prediction is that few of them will even try.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote: Well, you can't help these air signs sometimes,(I think Turq is a Gemini). I had a Gemini friend who *wouldn't* (couldn't) stop talking, add to that, air signs are constantly ruminating over things are are sometimes too cerebral, at lest Turq is coherent and his posts flow logically.(notice I didn't say 'Air-head'). Turq, who BTW thinks that astrology is a big, stinking pile of bullshit, although an occasionally entertaining pile of bullshit, is a Sagittarius. One of the bullshit astrological raps I've read that entertained me was someone trying to distinguish between the Sag and the Scorpio guy. She characterized both as somewhat fickle in their relationships with the other sex, saying that both would be prone to sleeping with a different woman every night, and telling each of them that they loved them. The difference, in her view, is that the Sagittarius really meant it, every time. Just as a question, do you consider your posts today in response to my What I'm for post examples of positivity, and reflective of what you're for? I ask because they've seemed more than a little on the negative and put-down side of things than anything else. Am I missing something. What is it that YOU are for? Or is that asking too much of you? Might I suggest that others on this forum similarly watch the reaction to my suggestion that the anti posters on this forum seem incapable of ever posting anything that they are for? My prediction is that few of them will even try. I 'for' you keeping your posts to 3 paragraphs long, you never see me go on for two or three pages do you, come on, you think I want to read your biography or something?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video: David Wants to Fly director interview
Bhairitu: Why are you TMO types always trying to sell us something, or trying to make a dime off of the dead MMY? It's just outrageous! Who you talking to, Willy? You TMO types that are always trying to sell us something, or trying to make a dime off of the dead MMY - who did you think I was talking to? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat
[FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
Excellent find, Xeno. What a pleasure to read all the relevant info in one coherent, unbiased presentation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: The following analysis is for those who are interested in the current financial situation of the United States government. [from factcheck.org] *Does Washington have a spending problem or an income problem? We offer some key facts.* http://factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/ This site offers interesting information on politicians and political organisations (both parties) that twist facts to suit their message. This current page discusses where the government's income comes from, and where it goes within some historical perspective. They also provide the references for their sources of information.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
turquoiseb: What are yours? Well, I'm really glad BillyG brought up the subject of Maharishi Jyotish. Rita and I are very excited about learning more about Vedic Astrology and the underlying philosophy of Maharishi's Vedic Science and Technology. We purchased the software, 'Jagganath Hora Light' several years ago, so we can enter our own birt- hdata. As luck would have it, there is a world famous Jyotishi living right near here, somewhere out by El Dorado. It is a fact needing no further proof that the first sight of another person's face can determine the outcome of an entire day. However, we should all pay very careful heed to the prediction in the Bhrihat Samhita: If a man or woman is seriously ill and his spouse's face looks shinning and bright, he or she is sure to die. So, if this fellow is not seriously mistaken, according to a recent reading using Parashara's Light, in exactly four years, I will be the Prime Minister of India! Apparently, long before the Chaldeans of Mesopotamia, the ancient inhabitants of India were recording heavenly observations. An astrological text attributed to the Sage Parashara might have been composed before 1,000 B.C., and is still the most popular handbook of astrology in India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_Dynasty The ancient word for Indian astrology is composed of two words, that is, 'jyotish' and 'sastra' - the 'Science of Light' (Sanskrit). Noting the fact that the ancient Indians invented the written alphabet, numerals, the decimal place, and the naught, it is not surprising that they may have invented astronomy as well! Certainly, the readers of the Brihat Samhita, perhaps the world's oldest self-help manual, think this is so. Jai Singh built his first observatory at Delhi in 1724 and a second at Jaipur, as a gift to the Mogul Emperor Mohammed Shah, in order to curtail the feuds that regularly took place among the court astronomers because none of them could agree on their calculations. Apparently, they were arguing over the precise position of the planets. [1] According to a recent traveler in India, all occultists are in awe of B.V. Raman, octogenarian founder of the Astrological Magazine and K.N. Rao. The assassination of Indira Gandhi in 1984 and of her son Rajiv in 1991 is said to have been foreseen by astrologers all over India. Almost all agreed that Mrs. Gandhi should have taken better care of herself that November! Some would-be assassins might have been prompted by these predictions, and subsequent to Mrs. Gandhi's death, a law was passed in India making it a crime to predict any more assassinations. The act states that action will be taken against anyone who predicts, prophesies, or pronounces or otherwise expresses in such a manner as to incite, advise, suggest, or prompt the killing or the destruction of any person bound by oath under the constitution. The idea being that if any potential assassin read the prediction, he would be more likely to carry it out. Go figure. Work Cited: 1. Stars of India Recent travels in India By Peter Holt Mainstream, 1998 Other titles of interest: Astrology of the Seers A modern classic describing general Indian Astrology By David Frawley Lotus Press, 2000 Beneath a Vedic Sky One of the best books concerning Jyotish Includes CD. By William Levacy (a TM Teacher)
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
Below From: wgm4u wg...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:00:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: On another forum, I am reading posts by people I once taught meditation with, but who, unlike me, kept doing it. It's been an interesting experience, one that has caused me to recapitulate my life and try to figure out why. One of the reasons I gave up teaching was that I didn't feel that I had a framework within which to teach. I was a member of no sangha or spiritual organization, and had no particular path or teacher to cite as an authority or represent. I'm a loner, and my path is as solitary as I am; it's a hodge-podge of things I've learned from a number of different paths, and resonated with enough to add them to my own home-grown philosophy. Unless you've got major charisma (I don't) or major hubris (ditto, I hope), it's tough to teach meditation or spirituality in the modern marketplace without having some framework within which to teach it, or some lineage to represent. But another reason was that I really didn't know what I'd teach. I know how to teach several forms of meditation, but wasn't really attached enough to any of them to present them as the method or the best method. I could cite books I'd read or talks I'd heard from other teachers, but I couldn't point to a single one of them that I'd recommend as representing the spiritual path or the best way to walk it. Today, just for the fuck of it, I thought I'd spend some time in this cafe thinking about some of the things I *would* feel comfortable presenting as potentially valuable things I've learned from 50+ years following a generally spiritual path: * Meditation might be of benefit to you. There are many forms of it, and I do not recommend any of them over another. Whatever works -- for you -- to calm the mind and allow your body to settle down and chill a bit. If nothing else, chilling is good. But meditation can have many other benefits as well, some of which might be of interest. * If you want to be happy, try to spend more time thinking of and doing for others than you spend thinking of and doing for yourself. The thing they didn't teach you growing up (in most cases) is that selfless service and doing nice things for other people GETS YOU HIGH. And, unlike drugs or other ways to get high, it has no nasty side effects, and is not likely to land you in a jail cell with a roommate named Bubba who wears lipstick and makes you afraid to fall asleep. * Self importance is not nearly as important as it might first appear. If spiritual teachers or spiritual paths go out of their way to convince you how important you are by believing what they believe, you might just want to pay less attention to that than the fact that you're just one more voice in a trillion-voice choir, singing on a very tiny ball in infinite space. * If you find yourself thinking I know a lot, about any subject, consider the possibility that you really don't, and see where that leads you. * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I would have no problem citing the Buddha on this one, and agreeing with him. * Try to err, when you err -- and we all do -- on the side of compassion. I would similarly have no problem citing Rama, although he didn't always walk his talk, on this one. * Don't be afraid to take chances and break the rules from time to time if something in you feels that there might be benefit in doing so. There really might. * Don't Panic. Douglas Adams got this one right. So did the cheerleader in American Beauty who said, Everything that's supposed to happen will, eventually. Things are not necessarily nearly as scary and as serious as they sometimes appear. Learning to just kick back and go with the ride is often what turns a mere A-ticket ride at Disneyland into an E-ticket ride. * Don't forget about laughter. If the spiritual path you have chosen is no longer FUN for you, and if you don't find yourself laughing out loud for no reason other than the sheer joy of it all fairly often, you might just have taken a turn on the path that -- for you -- isn't in the direction you originally wanted to go. I'm sure I could come up with more bullet points, but these will do -- for me -- for now. What are yours? wgm4u wg...@yahoo.com pre- snipped You talk too much? Actually, I believe its called writing although from your post I understand you're not completely familiar with this particular human skill. Talking is more like what you do on Skype. To learn more about writing can I recommend: How to Read and Why by Harold Bloom. I have no doubt Professor Bloom would enjoy The Turq's writing as much as I do. For more on
[FairfieldLife] who is toeing the party line ? was Re: If you were a lurker...
Line through air is the party line. lol good one mmh or this one http://militaryfail.net/wp-content/uploads/womencorps.jpg or-only choice: run for your life?? Well I know that I'm a wicked guy (chick) And I was born with a jealous mind And I can't spend my whole life Trying just to make you toe the line You better run for your life if you can,...' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_Y1kbZbJA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjscFtVwHtc Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God http://followpurity.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/toeing-the-line.jpg you hear me? that's the end? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Line through air is the party line. Barry prefers line etched in stone, and that is why he has become a but head, saying, But...but...but... regarding anything positive about TMO or Maharishi. Can't let it go after 40 plus years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Of course, the question arises, who is toeing the party line who actually posts to this forum? THis raises the question: just what is the party line? L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Several others seem to be able to contribute little more than piling on to demonize the posters who don't toe the TM Party Line, and call them uplifting names like donkeys. That was me Barry. You are one to talk, with the vile and disgusting words you use against others.I called you and Vaj donkeys because I was trying to be polite and not call you jackasses, jackass. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: ...who had never practiced TM, and was here checking out the scene and trying to figure out whether there was any benefit for you in learning it, would you be favorably impressed by the words and actions of those who act as self-appointed TM defenders or TM supporters here? One, a newbie, seems to be dedicated to creating in other people the least favorable opinion possible of a guy who did nothing more than be honest about his TM experience with a filmmaker. Another relative newb is on a campaign to out anyone who posts here, so that he can know who exactly they are and where they live; one can only wonder why he wants to know this, and what plans he has for the heretics once he has learned this information. Several others seem to be able to contribute little more than piling on to demonize the posters who don't toe the TM Party Line, and call them uplifting names like donkeys. That's pretty much the side representing TM, and all that it has done for the TMers in question, who have now been practicing it for many years or decades. On the other side, consider the simple post made by one of the people these TM supporters have been trying to demonize lately. Mark Landau made an honest and forth- right post, containing no antagonism and stooping to no name-calling, expressing more positive sentiments about Maharishi than all of the folks I mention above have made in all of their cumulative posts to FFL. If I were a lurker, I'd be looking at What you focus on you become. It seems to me that on the whole those who have appointed themselves as TM defenders can't seem to do anything but defend. They seem incapable of saying anything positive about that which they are defending, only negative things about those who they feel are against it. Meanwhile, one of the people they are trying diligently to demonize *was* able to post positive things about Maharishi and TM. Go figure. If I were a lurker, I sure know which I'd be more impressed by.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video: David Wants to Fly director interview
On 07/22/2011 07:05 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote: Bhairitu: Why are you TMO types always trying to sell us something, or trying to make a dime off of the dead MMY? It's just outrageous! Who you talking to, Willy? You TMO types that are always trying to sell us something, or trying to make a dime off of the dead MMY - who did you think I was talking to? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat What does Bharat have anything to do with this? Why are you Texans so crazy? Is it the heat? Or the water?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
In modern Hindi the word rakshasa also means wicked person. I think Republicans fit the bill. :-D There's another way to deflate the power of the evil and that is to make fun of them which we are doing. On 07/22/2011 04:18 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Why fear clowns, and give them such a big scary title as rakshasas? Once you project them as more powerful than you, game over. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robertbabajii_99@... wrote: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas, as M would have said... They are on a twisted destructive journey of who knows where...except to amp up fear and trepidation, what they live on... Time warrents an all out asault of the 'Light of God' to conteract this very dark force, which is revealing itself, in all its meaness and lack of any compassion... r.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Willy Chaim is afraid of his many shadows. He calls them stage names, like rakshasa. He wants them placed in protective custody. Barry2 is afraid of Capitalists, et alia . Like the other commissars he wants them all eliminated in a new Spartacist uprising. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: Robert: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas... You can keep your Hindu religious biases out of U.S. politics, Robert. This is a free country, Sir. Nobody here has to abide by your notions of caste, class, skin color, or birth circumstances. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Responsible people have a duty to be involved with social policy. Sticking your head up your ass is NOT enlightenment. It is ignorance. On 07/22/2011 09:46 AM, emptybill wrote: Willy Chaim is afraid of his many shadows. He calls them stage names, like rakshasa. He wants them placed in protective custody. Barry2 is afraid of Capitalists, et alia . Like the other commissars he wants them all eliminated in a new Spartacist uprising. … --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... wrote: Robert: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas... You can keep your Hindu religious biases out of U.S. politics, Robert. This is a free country, Sir. Nobody here has to abide by your notions of caste, class, skin color, or birth circumstances. Thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Non sequitur. And not worthy of the Council of the People's Deputies. Die Stunde der Abrechnung naht! (The hour of vengeance is coming soon!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Responsible people have a duty to be involved with social policy. Sticking your head up your ass is NOT enlightenment. It is ignorance. On 07/22/2011 09:46 AM, emptybill wrote: Willy Chaim is afraid of his many shadows. He calls them stage names, like rakshasa. He wants them placed in protective custody. Barry2 is afraid of Capitalists, et alia . Like the other commissars he wants them all eliminated in a new Spartacist uprising. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@ wrote: Robert: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas... You can keep your Hindu religious biases out of U.S. politics, Robert. This is a free country, Sir. Nobody here has to abide by your notions of caste, class, skin color, or birth circumstances. Thank you.
[FairfieldLife] ANOTHER TAKE ON GADDAFI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFuqhyGVY2wfeature=youtu.be
[FairfieldLife] Do You Know the Way to San Jose?
This city's residents have the longest life span in the USA. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/san-francisco-bay-guardian/san-jose-residents-longest-life-spans-u-150514662.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
May I say this below piece is a winner as typed by curtisdeltablues. How profound! Really! Read it Mr. Lynch! Feel it! It is only honesty and that can be utilized for the good. Preacher mode today, I am in, my stupid post is intentional. haha No argument here from my unenlightened soul. It does appear David S, did not come with an agenda and what a heck of an experience he had! If we could only record our experiences onto digital vid, it would be like http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1054606/ haha. I do believe David S.'s experience is pretty remarkable and bold as _uck and it is a bit of a shocker to particular elders, I am sure. Did I use the word, elders? No reference pun to Mormans, sorry. lol Embrace the youth and find the answers become more enlightening! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I believe that there is an important distinction between agenda and point of view. If David is to be believed about his initial interest in the project, he did not come in with an agenda to make the movement look bad. Quite the opposite, he liked his TM practice and admired David Lynch. What developed through his project was something that distinguishes this kind of work from a piece on 60 minutes, his own POV which then shaped how he edited the piece. It is your POV that would shape a documentary with the balance that there is more positive than negative in a documentary about Maharishi and his movement. But that was not the conclusion he came to for himself if we are to believe the second hand reports about the film. (I am open to the idea that when I see it, I might declare it balanced according to my own POV.) You and I, Mark, Robin and many others had the experience of falling in love with Maharishi the person. I don't think David had this experience. So it is unlikely that he would take Mark's positive description of his time with Maharishi with the same weight we might. And then again we will value his experiences very differently according to our POV and supporting belief structure. Having sent my own experiences with Maharishi through my updated epistemological sausage grinder, I can both relate to Mark's personal experiences around Maharishi while not giving them the same weight in their being more of a description of reality, than a compelling subjective experience that has more to do with Mark than Maharishi. While being sympathetic concerning the compelling nature of these experiences, I may have come to different conclusions about what they ultimately mean in our quest to understand life. But a good documentary is not only judged by how much it conforms to an idea of balance. Give me a camera crew and I will create an advocacy piece for my own POV and make it as compelling as possible while trying to stay within ethical bounds of not deliberately misleading the viewer. And the viewer and judge if the POV shared is a compelling case or is just a skewed view. I trust a piece more that lets me in on the director's POV rather than a doc whose bias is either not explicit, or worse yet, when the director's bias is unknown to themselves. We also have the conflicting mixed bag that presents itself when we get into reporting on something as complex as Maharishi and his minions. Having spent some time with the press who tried to get the story as David did, I can report that the movement presents itself as vain, fey, pompous, deluded and creepily unaware that its bullshit PR is not flying to outsiders trying to get the story right. I heard time and time again that the story they were trying to tell got turned into the resistance of the movement to their telling it objectively. And the switch from Goulab Jamin sweet to the raging Bevan was often swift and sometimes scary. Without an insider's view that we shared, the movement looks like any other self important group who claims exclusive possession of the highest teaching. And I really can't argue with them because I suspect they are right. My enjoyment of TM and my affection for Maharishi does not mean that I am any closer to understanding the reality of life than someone who does not share my personal history. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: David, who made the film, definitely had an agenda. He interviewed me by phone. I emphasized repeatedly that he should tell the whole story, and that an honest telling would contain more positive than negative. But it appears that he just wanted to do a hatchet job. So he interviewed Mark for two hours, and chose something Mark said during those two hours that sounds negative. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tedadams108 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
According to vedic literature, human beings are actually higher than the rakshasas in the natural order of things on earth. So, the wickedness of the rakshasas become their own downfall, e.g. Hitler and the Third Reich; and Montezuma and the Aztec Empire (yes it's true. Their human sacrifices angered their neighboring tribes, who were the victims, and who gladly made alliances with the Spaniards to overthrow the Aztec empire.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: In modern Hindi the word rakshasa also means wicked person. I think Republicans fit the bill. :-D There's another way to deflate the power of the evil and that is to make fun of them which we are doing. On 07/22/2011 04:18 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Why fear clowns, and give them such a big scary title as rakshasas? Once you project them as more powerful than you, game over. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robertbabajii_99@ wrote: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas, as M would have said... They are on a twisted destructive journey of who knows where...except to amp up fear and trepidation, what they live on... Time warrents an all out asault of the 'Light of God' to conteract this very dark force, which is revealing itself, in all its meaness and lack of any compassion... r.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
I met Mark Landau while he was with Maharishi and got to know more of him through subsequent personal correspondence and posts he made here and on his own website and in direct mailings He wrote to me of Maharishi sandals some while ago and I was intrigued as I remembered them well. I once had to massage Maharishi's blue feet after he had stood too long in the snow watching the Bluchers ski near Wiesensteig, where a few of us were holed up with him while he worked on The Science of Being. A few comments are in order. Maharishi was a remarkable person, with great bouncing energy and enviable vibrations. None of the revelations about his private life can alter that. He was not a light weight and achieved more in his life than many. Of course his sandals will hold some of that vibration. Sri Aurobindo, whose ashram at Pondicherry I visited, would have stated that the larger truth often contains `irreconcilable facets' in a paradox. It is lasting shame we were never able to hear Maharishi discuss his own situation as it might have shed light on problems we have with sex, power and money. As a keen Wagnerian I was delighted with a slim book Wagner the terrible man, and his truthful Art. In it he espoused the thesis that Wagner, like all great artists wrote from his wounded soul and tried in his art to integrate and reconcile what he was unable to do in his own life. His art thus sheds light on problems we have and in a way that helps us to find some measure of wholeness, if that is what we are seeking. If that is you, you probably love Wagner. If not you might well hate his operas. It is well possible that out of Maharishi's own needs came his remarkable attempts to unify life in Satchidananda. He was certainly the happiest person I have ever met and the fact that he fell short of an idealised perfection can't change that perception. One could love him and still wish to remain far away from his organization. I see no difficulty in admiring and despising a person at one and the same time and for different reasons, or if despise is too strong, then loving him with his failings. I think that is the mark of true love as opposed to the blind and needy devotion of those who made a guru of Maharishi. I never needed to so am able to still think fondly and gratefully of him. Despite all we now know. In fact because of what we now know feel regret I was unable to hear him talk as a person with struggles and personal hopes. It could be maintained that the need to spout one's opinions is the very thing that will keep one unenlightened, whatever that actually means. Some people on this site can be mean, petty and remarkably opinionated and excessively loquacious on all possible topics, forming instant opinions at the drop of a written word, without the excuse that they are the long held cherished biases that form so much of each of us. Love, David
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do You Know the Way to San Jose?
Damn - our residential zip code was changed six months ago from San Jose to a different city! Oh well, San Jose is literally a block away - I'll have to take more walks in that direction. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: This city's residents have the longest life span in the USA. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/san-francisco-bay-guardian/san-jose-residents-longest-life-spans-u-150514662.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do You Know the Way to San Jose?
This fact actually surprised me. I thought the likely city would be from the wealthy communities like, Hillsborough or Atherton. But NO! It could be that the rich people have too much stress in making money and keeping their money. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Damn - our residential zip code was changed six months ago from San Jose to a different city! Oh well, San Jose is literally a block away - I'll have to take more walks in that direction. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This city's residents have the longest life span in the USA. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/san-francisco-bay-guardian/san-jose-residents-longest-life-spans-u-150514662.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Below From: wgm4u wgm4u@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:00:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: On another forum, I am reading posts by people I once taught meditation with, but who, unlike me, kept doing it. It's been an interesting experience, one that has caused me to recapitulate my life and try to figure out why. One of the reasons I gave up teaching was that I didn't feel that I had a framework within which to teach. I was a member of no sangha or spiritual organization, and had no particular path or teacher to cite as an authority or represent. I'm a loner, and my path is as solitary as I am; it's a hodge-podge of things I've learned from a number of different paths, and resonated with enough to add them to my own home-grown philosophy. Unless you've got major charisma (I don't) or major hubris (ditto, I hope), it's tough to teach meditation or spirituality in the modern marketplace without having some framework within which to teach it, or some lineage to represent. But another reason was that I really didn't know what I'd teach. I know how to teach several forms of meditation, but wasn't really attached enough to any of them to present them as the method or the best method. I could cite books I'd read or talks I'd heard from other teachers, but I couldn't point to a single one of them that I'd recommend as representing the spiritual path or the best way to walk it. Today, just for the fuck of it, I thought I'd spend some time in this cafe thinking about some of the things I *would* feel comfortable presenting as potentially valuable things I've learned from 50+ years following a generally spiritual path: * Meditation might be of benefit to you. There are many forms of it, and I do not recommend any of them over another. Whatever works -- for you -- to calm the mind and allow your body to settle down and chill a bit. If nothing else, chilling is good. But meditation can have many other benefits as well, some of which might be of interest. * If you want to be happy, try to spend more time thinking of and doing for others than you spend thinking of and doing for yourself. The thing they didn't teach you growing up (in most cases) is that selfless service and doing nice things for other people GETS YOU HIGH. And, unlike drugs or other ways to get high, it has no nasty side effects, and is not likely to land you in a jail cell with a roommate named Bubba who wears lipstick and makes you afraid to fall asleep. * Self importance is not nearly as important as it might first appear. If spiritual teachers or spiritual paths go out of their way to convince you how important you are by believing what they believe, you might just want to pay less attention to that than the fact that you're just one more voice in a trillion-voice choir, singing on a very tiny ball in infinite space. * If you find yourself thinking I know a lot, about any subject, consider the possibility that you really don't, and see where that leads you. * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. I would have no problem citing the Buddha on this one, and agreeing with him. * Try to err, when you err -- and we all do -- on the side of compassion. I would similarly have no problem citing Rama, although he didn't always walk his talk, on this one. * Don't be afraid to take chances and break the rules from time to time if something in you feels that there might be benefit in doing so. There really might. * Don't Panic. Douglas Adams got this one right. So did the cheerleader in American Beauty who said, Everything that's supposed to happen will, eventually. Things are not necessarily nearly as scary and as serious as they sometimes appear. Learning to just kick back and go with the ride is often what turns a mere A-ticket ride at Disneyland into an E-ticket ride. * Don't forget about laughter. If the spiritual path you have chosen is no longer FUN for you, and if you don't find yourself laughing out loud for no reason other than the sheer joy of it all fairly often, you might just have taken a turn on the path that -- for you -- isn't in the direction you originally wanted to go. I'm sure I could come up with more bullet points, but these will do -- for me -- for now. What are yours? wgm4u wgm4u@... pre- snipped You talk too much? Actually, I believe its called writing although from your post I understand you're not completely familiar with this particular human skill. Talking is more like what you do on Skype. To learn more
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do You Know the Way to San Jose?
Those places are probably too small to show up. After all, SF is chock full of richies and they made the list. My theory is that San Jose is full of people that were born and raised there, and it is a pretty laid back place. Steve Gray (Adyashanti) is from a small bordering town - Cupertino. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: This fact actually surprised me. I thought the likely city would be from the wealthy communities like, Hillsborough or Atherton. But NO! It could be that the rich people have too much stress in making money and keeping their money. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Damn - our residential zip code was changed six months ago from San Jose to a different city! Oh well, San Jose is literally a block away - I'll have to take more walks in that direction. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: This city's residents have the longest life span in the USA. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/san-francisco-bay-guardian/san-jose-residents-longest-life-spans-u-150514662.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
Thank you. I will read this. I have just purchased a MacBook Pro after years on a PC and I have an HP printer (old) and now cannot print in colorI downloaded the driver, etc. and it doesn't work, of course. Of course, my 14 year old took down the PC with viruses, which is why I purchased a Mac. Have enrolled in school and am taking my first online class along with 2 others which is sooo much work and of course, my unemployment is tied to passing and I am sooo behind. And, I have just realized I have Word 2010 on the computer - yet another program to figure out - doubling and tripling the amount of time I have to spend on design/writing assignments. Nothing frustrates one more than one's electronics not working when one has deadlines. Argghhh - compatibilityhuh? --- On Thu, 7/21/11, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:39 PM The following analysis is for those who are interested in the current financial situation of the United States government. [from factcheck.org] *Does Washington have a spending problem or an income problem? We offer some key facts.* http://factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/ This site offers interesting information on politicians and political organisations (both parties) that twist facts to suit their message. This current page discusses where the government's income comes from, and where it goes within some historical perspective. They also provide the references for their sources of information.
[FairfieldLife] Restaurant serves meat to Hindus, served lawsuit in return
http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2011/07/22/restaurant-served-meat-to-hindus-served-lawsuit-in-return/?hpt=ea_mid
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: MZ responds to CDB: Nablusoss responds to MZ: Your post was 37 pages long. Do you any idea what snipping is about ?One wonders what is wrong with you ! snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Non sequitur is a coward's way of saying I don't know how to respond to your post. My reply was very relevant to the ignorant nonsense you posted. What would your response have been to the Robber Barons of the late 19th century? I guess they would have been all fine with you. You and some others here read like someone who's idea of dealing with the world is to stick your head in the ground or up your ass and sing Don't Worry be Happy rather than try to sort it out. You would have been a serf 300 years ago and pushed around by a wealthy landlord or his honcho. Do you want to live that way again? On 07/22/2011 10:14 AM, emptybill wrote: Non sequitur. And not worthy of the Council of the People's Deputies. Die Stunde der Abrechnung naht! (The hour of vengeance is coming soon!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Responsible people have a duty to be involved with social policy. Sticking your head up your ass is NOT enlightenment. It is ignorance. On 07/22/2011 09:46 AM, emptybill wrote: Willy Chaim is afraid of his many shadows. He calls them stage names, like rakshasa. He wants them placed in protective custody. Barry2 is afraid of Capitalists, et alia . Like the other commissars he wants them all eliminated in a new Spartacist uprising. … --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@ wrote: Robert: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas... You can keep your Hindu religious biases out of U.S. politics, Robert. This is a free country, Sir. Nobody here has to abide by your notions of caste, class, skin color, or birth circumstances. Thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
Of course but until they fall down you have to fight them or they will harm you. I don't think you would want to stand around and just let a mythical rakshasa eat you alive. On 07/22/2011 10:41 AM, John wrote: According to vedic literature, human beings are actually higher than the rakshasas in the natural order of things on earth. So, the wickedness of the rakshasas become their own downfall, e.g. Hitler and the Third Reich; and Montezuma and the Aztec Empire (yes it's true. Their human sacrifices angered their neighboring tribes, who were the victims, and who gladly made alliances with the Spaniards to overthrow the Aztec empire.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: In modern Hindi the word rakshasa also means wicked person. I think Republicans fit the bill. :-D There's another way to deflate the power of the evil and that is to make fun of them which we are doing. On 07/22/2011 04:18 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Why fear clowns, and give them such a big scary title as rakshasas? Once you project them as more powerful than you, game over. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robertbabajii_99@ wrote: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas, as M would have said... They are on a twisted destructive journey of who knows where...except to amp up fear and trepidation, what they live on... Time warrents an all out asault of the 'Light of God' to conteract this very dark force, which is revealing itself, in all its meaness and lack of any compassion... r.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ANOTHER TAKE ON GADDAFI
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:18 PM, johnt johnlasher20002...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFuqhyGVY2wfeature=youtu.be Sounds like the place Barry will wind up next. Beats having to crash learn Dutch so he can become eligible for welfare state benefits. I can say that I've found Libyans to be very friendly people, typical ME hospitality.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling
CHECKING. I need those 3 checkings, nablusoss1008. If my problems go deeper than thisand checking doesn't remedy themthen I'll get back to you. Meanwhile let me see what the transcendent does for me. (I will try to apply the snipping method next timeas I don't think checking will be a substitute for that. Thanks, nablusoss. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: MZ responds to CDB: Nablusoss responds to MZ: Your post was 37 pages long. Do you any idea what snipping is about ?One wonders what is wrong with you ! snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:43 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Fruitful, fruitful! You continue to be a huge addition to the content here Mark. Your exchange with Robin on your experiences with Maharishi were fascinating. I was surprised to learn that Bevan wasn't a skin boy. I thought that was one of his claims to fame when he was first with Maharishi in India. The mega intense world at Maharishi's door is so worthy of a book, many books for each person who wants to tell this story. One of the most fascinating books I have read was by Mao's personal physician. You get an insight into his character you get nowhere else. Same for you guys in the hot seat carrying the hot seat. Any details you sprinkle here will fall on many delighted ears. I enjoy your divine experiences as much as any insights into the more human side of Maharishi. Thank you, Curtis When I knew Bevan in the 70s, he confided in me that he was always jealous of the skin boys because he had never gotten to do it himself. I don't know what happened after I left, in '76. My guess is that he never really played that roll, that M had bigger and better ideas for him and didn't want to jeopardize them. I would think, though, he got to physically carry the skin in brief, sporadic situations, but not in the traditional up close and personal way for long periods of time. Please correct me, anyone, if they know more. I started to write a book about it, but decided to let others do that. One of those things...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Yahoo being flaky
On 07/20/2011 04:50 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: weird, I posted this last Sunday... For the last few days, in my FFL gmail email feed, there's been a small trickle of posts coming in that have taken three days to show up. If I see that it may cause problems for higher volume FFL posters, I will manually run the Post Count during the day as needed. The script filters any posts that were posted outside the date range (as long as the header still has the original post date).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Mark Landau m...@sky5.com wrote: Why did so many skin boys get disillusioned? Because, as Robin says, the images that forced themselves upon us forced us to revise our estimation of the man. Bevan never really became skin boy. He always wanted to, but was spared that. Most of the skin boys got close enough to the man to see his underbelly. And it wasn't as pretty as we all thought it was. No man is a hero to his valet-de-chambre—Marshal Catinat (1637–1712). Few men have been admired by their domestics.—Montaigne: Essays, book iii. chap. 2.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Republicans= Raksashas'
You must have been a red diaper baby, learning to read Cyrillic first. Maybe that's why you are a little slow on picking up the references in the reply - much less making sense of them. But, then again, Your Stridency demonstrates the painfulness of thinking beyond sloganeering. . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Non sequitur is a coward's way of saying I don't know how to respond to your post. My reply was very relevant to the ignorant nonsense you posted. What would your response have been to the Robber Barons of the late 19th century? I guess they would have been all fine with you. You and some others here read like someone who's idea of dealing with the world is to stick your head in the ground or up your ass and sing Don't Worry be Happy rather than try to sort it out. You would have been a serf 300 years ago and pushed around by a wealthy landlord or his honcho. Do you want to live that way again? On 07/22/2011 10:14 AM, emptybill wrote: Non sequitur. And not worthy of the Council of the People's Deputies. Die Stunde der Abrechnung naht! (The hour of vengeance is coming soon!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: Responsible people have a duty to be involved with social policy. Sticking your head up your ass is NOT enlightenment. It is ignorance. On 07/22/2011 09:46 AM, emptybill wrote: Willy Chaim is afraid of his many shadows. He calls them stage names, like rakshasa. He wants them placed in protective custody. Barry2 is afraid of Capitalists, et alia . Like the other commissars he wants them all eliminated in a new Spartacist uprising. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@ wrote: Robert: The republican party and it's members have turned into raksashas... You can keep your Hindu religious biases out of U.S. politics, Robert. This is a free country, Sir. Nobody here has to abide by your notions of caste, class, skin color, or birth circumstances. Thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. After being stuck with over $100 in ink cartridges after each failure, I bought a Brother all-in-one wireless printer/scanner/fax/copier and found a great deal on-line for ink at $1.50 per cartridge. Fast, cheap and flawless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: Thank you.  I will read this.  I have just purchased a MacBook Pro after years on a PC and I have an HP printer (old) and now cannot print in colorI downloaded the driver, etc. and it doesn't work, of course. Of course, my 14 year old took down the PC with viruses, which is why I purchased a Mac. Have enrolled in school and am taking my first online class along with 2 others which is sooo much work and of course, my unemployment is tied to passing and I am sooo behind.  And, I have just realized I have Word 2010 on the computer - yet another program to figure out - doubling and tripling the amount of time I have to spend on design/writing assignments.  Nothing frustrates one more than one's electronics not working when one has deadlines.  Argghhh - compatibilityhuh? --- On Thu, 7/21/11, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:39 PM  The following analysis is for those who are interested in the current financial situation of the United States government. [from factcheck.org] *Does Washington have a spending problem or an income problem? We offer some key facts.* http://factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/ This site offers interesting information on politicians and political organisations (both parties) that twist facts to suit their message. This current page discusses where the government's income comes from, and where it goes within some historical perspective. They also provide the references for their sources of information.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. I've owned exactly two printers in the 18 years that I've been a computer user, both HP. The first was their portable inkjet, and since I do very little printing, the printer would sit there getting all gunked up, and it would never work right when I'd go to use it. I swore that I would never again own a printer that uses liquid ink. In 1998, I bought a LaserJet 6L, and it has been working flawlessly ever since. With the demise of parallel printer ports, I had to get a USB adapter so I could use it with my current machine. What's great is that Windows supports it natively, no drivers needed, because HP is notorious for making bloatware printer drivers. Petra has two printers, a small Samsung monochrome laser printer that kicks ass, and a color, all-in-one, fax/scanner/copier/printer from HP that a friend gave her, and IMO, it is a whoreanus piece of crap.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
HP just did a big overhaul of the software for the al-in-one that i have, and now it works flawlessly with my MacBook Pro. Before, it was a major production, especially for the scanning. Before the updates they had a whole bunch of crappy programs that seemed to do little except cause my computer to crash. Now it's great. Before Denise gives up, I would recommend uninstalling all the HP software, (not just the driver--everything, since some of what is on there could be what is causing the problems) going to the site and downloading whatever there is for her system. It may make a big difference~~it did for us. On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:59 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. After being stuck with over $100 in ink cartridges after each failure, I bought a Brother all-in-one wireless printer/scanner/fax/copier and found a great deal on-line for ink at $1.50 per cartridge. Fast, cheap and flawless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: Thank you. Â I will read this. Â I have just purchased a MacBook Pro after years on a PC and I have an HP printer (old) and now cannot print in colorI downloaded the driver, etc. and it doesn't work, of course. Of course, my 14 year old took down the PC with viruses, which is why I purchased a Mac.Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Taimni: Breathing alternately through the two nostrils...
On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:35 AM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.scribd.com/doc/21497898/I-K-Taimni-The-Science-of-Yoga-Yoga-Sutras-of-Patanjali P. 233 Most of the time am unable to do that, because of allergic rhinitis, or stuff. That reeeaaally sucks! :/ It would be very important to clean(?) the shrota-s or naaDi-s, or whatever, now wouldn't it? Get a neti pot.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real cost of Android?
On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:40 PM, cardemaister wrote: I have to admit I hate my Nokia N8. I like much more my ZTE Blade Android phone. But I downright love my iPad! I use my iPad as a cell phone. Just download the Skype app, charge it up with a couple of dollars, and should be all set.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real cost of Android?
On 07/22/2011 06:05 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:40 PM, cardemaister wrote: I have to admit I hate my Nokia N8. I like much more my ZTE Blade Android phone. But I downright love my iPad! I use my iPad as a cell phone. Just download the Skype app, charge it up with a couple of dollars, and should be all set. Ha, you guys are stuck with a retro 4:3 aspect screen. I have a nice 16:9 screen on my Acer 500 and today I picked up a micro HDMI cable and tried it with my TV. Unfortunately it only outputs 720p and my TV is 1080i. Unwatchable but it does work. My TV is an 11 year Pioneer 53 HD RPTV which means it does not have HDMI but component. However last year I bought an HDFury HDMI to component adapter which does the trick with my Bluray player. Not necessarily for playing Blurays but for upscaling DVDs and Netflix (BD still works with component). But the adapter does no upscaling just converts the HDMI output on the player to 1080i. Cheaper than buying a new 55 panel though. A panel will scale the 720p output to 1080p. The cable was all of $10 and I might use it when traveling.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
On 07/22/2011 05:37 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7whynotnow7@... wrote: When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. I've owned exactly two printers in the 18 years that I've been a computer user, both HP. The first was their portable inkjet, and since I do very little printing, the printer would sit there getting all gunked up, and it would never work right when I'd go to use it. I swore that I would never again own a printer that uses liquid ink. In 1998, I bought a LaserJet 6L, and it has been working flawlessly ever since. With the demise of parallel printer ports, I had to get a USB adapter so I could use it with my current machine. What's great is that Windows supports it natively, no drivers needed, because HP is notorious for making bloatware printer drivers. Petra has two printers, a small Samsung monochrome laser printer that kicks ass, and a color, all-in-one, fax/scanner/copier/printer from HP that a friend gave her, and IMO, it is a whoreanus piece of crap. In 1989 I bought an NEC laser printer probably for $1800. Never ran out of toner while I used it. I needed faster output for printing source code. My current printer is an HP Photosmart Plus wifi printer. I went with HP because they've always support Linux, probably because they sold Linux servers. Thing runs like a Model T. And yup, eats ink or times out when they want you to buy ink again. It didn't like a third party black cartridge and refuses to tell me the level. A year later wifi printers were half the price. And I don't do much printing anymore either but it is annoying when I go to do one of my custom birthday cards for a relative and one of the cartridges is dry. With the wifi I don't need a host computer and it will even print from my Android devices. The ink thing reminds me of my refrigerator. I don't drink the water from it all that often nor use ice that much but 6 months after I put in a filter the light says time to change it. I don't until I taste the chlorine. There is no sensor to tell how well it is filtering just a timer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real cost of Android?
On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Ha, you guys are stuck with a retro 4:3 aspect screen. It is true, that's the shape, but I prefer that form factor in my klutzy hands. Besides, it displays in whatever aspect I prefer, at a touch - and streams seamlessly to my TV, with no hassles. It just works. Hook it up to Netflix - and I'm streaming movies to the TV or wherever I am. I have a nice 16:9 screen on my Acer 500 and today I picked up a micro HDMI cable and tried it with my TV. Unfortunately it only outputs 720p and my TV is 1080i. Unwatchable but it does work. My TV is an 11 year Pioneer 53 HD RPTV which means it does not have HDMI but component. However last year I bought an HDFury HDMI to component adapter which does the trick with my Bluray player. Not necessarily for playing Blurays but for upscaling DVDs and Netflix (BD still works with component). But the adapter does no upscaling just converts the HDMI output on the player to 1080i. Cheaper than buying a new 55 panel though. A panel will scale the 720p output to 1080p. The cable was all of $10 and I might use it when traveling. See, that's the thing about Apple: their accessories are usually quite pricey - but very well thought out, both aesthetically and based on the fact you can usually use them for more than one thing. For example, their pricey camera connection kit also lets you connect to SD cards and many different USB devices. Once you jailbreak an iPhone or an iPad, it's essentially a Open Source device.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
Though I won't buy an HP printer again, my Compaq Presario CQ62 (HP) laptop has been awesome - big screen, fast, large HD, lightweight, durable and only 300 bucks out the door. My only complaint was the DVD player app. I don't recall the name of the software but I literally had to restore my operating system if I was playing a DVD and unplugged the machine for battery use. Got rid of it and just use the windows media player now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. I've owned exactly two printers in the 18 years that I've been a computer user, both HP. The first was their portable inkjet, and since I do very little printing, the printer would sit there getting all gunked up, and it would never work right when I'd go to use it. I swore that I would never again own a printer that uses liquid ink. In 1998, I bought a LaserJet 6L, and it has been working flawlessly ever since. With the demise of parallel printer ports, I had to get a USB adapter so I could use it with my current machine. What's great is that Windows supports it natively, no drivers needed, because HP is notorious for making bloatware printer drivers. Petra has two printers, a small Samsung monochrome laser printer that kicks ass, and a color, all-in-one, fax/scanner/copier/printer from HP that a friend gave her, and IMO, it is a whoreanus piece of crap.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
On 07/22/2011 06:59 AM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4uwgm4u@ wrote: Well, you can't help these air signs sometimes,(I think Turq is a Gemini). I had a Gemini friend who *wouldn't* (couldn't) stop talking, add to that, air signs are constantly ruminating over things are are sometimes too cerebral, at lest Turq is coherent and his posts flow logically.(notice I didn't say 'Air-head'). Turq, who BTW thinks that astrology is a big, stinking pile of bullshit, although an occasionally entertaining pile of bullshit, is a Sagittarius. One of the bullshit astrological raps I've read that entertained me was someone trying to distinguish between the Sag and the Scorpio guy. She characterized both as somewhat fickle in their relationships with the other sex, saying that both would be prone to sleeping with a different woman every night, and telling each of them that they loved them. The difference, in her view, is that the Sagittarius really meant it, every time. Just as a question, do you consider your posts today in response to my What I'm for post examples of positivity, and reflective of what you're for? I ask because they've seemed more than a little on the negative and put-down side of things than anything else. Am I missing something. What is it that YOU are for? Or is that asking too much of you? Might I suggest that others on this forum similarly watch the reaction to my suggestion that the anti posters on this forum seem incapable of ever posting anything that they are for? My prediction is that few of them will even try. I 'for' you keeping your posts to 3 paragraphs long, you never see me go on for two or three pages do you, come on, you think I want to read your biography or something? Now don't fall over dead, but I agree with you, Billy. I don't know who has any time to read a several page rap anyway let alone write one unless being paid handsomely. My training in communications was the technique of saying the most with the least words. I always thought that the TM writers were overly impressed with their own words and would ramble on for pages on things that could have been said in one paragraph. Maybe that is where Barry picked up this bad habit. We want to read what people have to say but only if it fits into our schedule or is earth shaking. Not much earth shaking of FFL. :-D And sun sign astrology? No wonder Barry thinks astrology is a crock. We want Barry's sidereal chart. Any guesses as to his ascendant? I don't pay any attention to astrology naysayers that never did any homework.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Economic Collapse -- why it won't be stopped (and The Last Mountain)
I've read that HP's ink was the only thing keeping the company profitable. They obviously sell their printers as loss leaders to get you hooked on the ink. I never found, despite looking, 3rd party ink cartridges that worked well in their printers. HP has killed the goose that laid the golden egg with their shoddy printers. The legacy of Carly whats-her-name (I shudder to think what she would have done to California as its Senator...). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/22/2011 05:37 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7whynotnow7@ wrote: When you need to replace that HP printer, you may want to go with the Brother brand. I had three HP printers, each one worse that the last. I've owned exactly two printers in the 18 years that I've been a computer user, both HP. The first was their portable inkjet, and since I do very little printing, the printer would sit there getting all gunked up, and it would never work right when I'd go to use it. I swore that I would never again own a printer that uses liquid ink. In 1998, I bought a LaserJet 6L, and it has been working flawlessly ever since. With the demise of parallel printer ports, I had to get a USB adapter so I could use it with my current machine. What's great is that Windows supports it natively, no drivers needed, because HP is notorious for making bloatware printer drivers. Petra has two printers, a small Samsung monochrome laser printer that kicks ass, and a color, all-in-one, fax/scanner/copier/printer from HP that a friend gave her, and IMO, it is a whoreanus piece of crap. In 1989 I bought an NEC laser printer probably for $1800. Never ran out of toner while I used it. I needed faster output for printing source code. My current printer is an HP Photosmart Plus wifi printer. I went with HP because they've always support Linux, probably because they sold Linux servers. Thing runs like a Model T. And yup, eats ink or times out when they want you to buy ink again. It didn't like a third party black cartridge and refuses to tell me the level. A year later wifi printers were half the price. And I don't do much printing anymore either but it is annoying when I go to do one of my custom birthday cards for a relative and one of the cartridges is dry. With the wifi I don't need a host computer and it will even print from my Android devices. The ink thing reminds me of my refrigerator. I don't drink the water from it all that often nor use ice that much but 6 months after I put in a filter the light says time to change it. I don't until I taste the chlorine. There is no sensor to tell how well it is filtering just a timer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I'm for
re astrology: My sun sign is Gemini, with Taurus rising. My stepson is the opposite. We get along like brothers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/22/2011 06:59 AM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoisebno_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4uwgm4u@ wrote: Well, you can't help these air signs sometimes,(I think Turq is a Gemini). I had a Gemini friend who *wouldn't* (couldn't) stop talking, add to that, air signs are constantly ruminating over things are are sometimes too cerebral, at lest Turq is coherent and his posts flow logically.(notice I didn't say 'Air-head'). Turq, who BTW thinks that astrology is a big, stinking pile of bullshit, although an occasionally entertaining pile of bullshit, is a Sagittarius. One of the bullshit astrological raps I've read that entertained me was someone trying to distinguish between the Sag and the Scorpio guy. She characterized both as somewhat fickle in their relationships with the other sex, saying that both would be prone to sleeping with a different woman every night, and telling each of them that they loved them. The difference, in her view, is that the Sagittarius really meant it, every time. Just as a question, do you consider your posts today in response to my What I'm for post examples of positivity, and reflective of what you're for? I ask because they've seemed more than a little on the negative and put-down side of things than anything else. Am I missing something. What is it that YOU are for? Or is that asking too much of you? Might I suggest that others on this forum similarly watch the reaction to my suggestion that the anti posters on this forum seem incapable of ever posting anything that they are for? My prediction is that few of them will even try. I 'for' you keeping your posts to 3 paragraphs long, you never see me go on for two or three pages do you, come on, you think I want to read your biography or something? Now don't fall over dead, but I agree with you, Billy. I don't know who has any time to read a several page rap anyway let alone write one unless being paid handsomely. My training in communications was the technique of saying the most with the least words. I always thought that the TM writers were overly impressed with their own words and would ramble on for pages on things that could have been said in one paragraph. Maybe that is where Barry picked up this bad habit. We want to read what people have to say but only if it fits into our schedule or is earth shaking. Not much earth shaking of FFL. :-D And sun sign astrology? No wonder Barry thinks astrology is a crock. We want Barry's sidereal chart. Any guesses as to his ascendant? I don't pay any attention to astrology naysayers that never did any homework.
[FairfieldLife] Shiva protects His devotee Markandeya
...from the clutches of Yama, God of Death: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Ravivarma_markendeya.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Bob Price wrote: I apologize in advance for the excessively loquacious nature of this post, I asked the wife what that meant and she said: If you don't want to be thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a Chatty Cathy. In which case you'll be thought of as a sexist pig instead. Which might be a step up. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Real cost of Android?
On 07/22/2011 06:29 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Ha, you guys are stuck with a retro 4:3 aspect screen. It is true, that's the shape, but I prefer that form factor in my klutzy hands. Besides, it displays in whatever aspect I prefer, at a touch - and streams seamlessly to my TV, with no hassles. It just works. Hook it up to Netflix - and I'm streaming movies to the TV or wherever I am. You know that Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight, don't you? I've read it has to be built for each device. They're rolling out Netflix for Android devices but I'm still waiting for the Acer version that will play video not just show you your queue and let you add movies or discs. My Android phone is too old to ever get it but my ins may deliver me a newer phone. That's how I got the Acer tablet. ;-) I have a nice 16:9 screen on my Acer 500 and today I picked up a micro HDMI cable and tried it with my TV. Unfortunately it only outputs 720p and my TV is 1080i. Unwatchable but it does work. My TV is an 11 year Pioneer 53 HD RPTV which means it does not have HDMI but component. However last year I bought an HDFury HDMI to component adapter which does the trick with my Bluray player. Not necessarily for playing Blurays but for upscaling DVDs and Netflix (BD still works with component). But the adapter does no upscaling just converts the HDMI output on the player to 1080i. Cheaper than buying a new 55 panel though. A panel will scale the 720p output to 1080p. The cable was all of $10 and I might use it when traveling. See, that's the thing about Apple: their accessories are usually quite pricey - but very well thought out, both aesthetically and based on the fact you can usually use them for more than one thing. For example, their pricey camera connection kit also lets you connect to SD cards and many different USB devices. Once you jailbreak an iPhone or an iPad, it's essentially a Open Source device. Not really, you don't get the source! It's just a hack someone figured out. Yup, Steve Jobs is a master wallet sucker.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I apologize in advance for the excessively loquacious nature of this post, I asked the wife what that meant and she said: If you don't want to be thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a Chatty Cathy. One of the cleverest raps I have read here. I equate loquacious with big writing balls. The thing is none of us is really writing ( which means re-writing) We are offering our shitty first drafts of creative flow. And yours are working overtime brother. Want me to speak for an hour, I am ready now. Want me to speak for a half hour give me a day. Want me to speak for ten minutes, I need a week. What we do here is cleaning the pipes for writing and the inevitable work of re-writing. And when the first draft can strike a chord, we are lucky. Your different voices in your writing creating the character of your wife is totally charming. When I read you here I know I must step up my perceptiveness game or I will not get you. You are doing some really interesting work here brother, and I am doing my best to keep up. Thanks. Ravi, I was thrilled when you took the time to answer my post a second time. In fact, I was so thrilled I took your advice and watched your interview on BatGap. I was not disappointed! It took all-the limited vessel, that I am to take in just a small fraction of the illumination you and Rick shared in the interview. It happened like a thunderbolt!!! It was like the ugly head of my Kundalini snarled and almost gave me whip lash as my heart chakra blossomed and the illumination poured in like a cool spring on a hot summers day. Of course you know to what I refer because as we both know you set the whole lila up (not Ricks cat-as much as I love Rick, I can promise you there will be no Dan Rather moments of letting half the screen go black on ZomGas. I thought your look of what the f**k was fully justified) sorry where was I? Oh yes the lila you set in motion. I get it my friend and as you hoped I'm ready to grab the proverbial Brahma bull by the horns. As you know, what I'm referring to is that thousand petal-ed gem you planted for me at 24:10 into the interview. That koan or Thor's hammer that broke my final resistance, where you opened up and explained everything we need to know about Zombies. As much as I hate to distract anyone from MZ's post, I have to say Ned Wynn's email exchange on Big M's short shorts has nothing on this. When i heard and saw you speak truth to power (after all it is Ricks show) about Zombies I knew what you had been saying to me all a long. For a clearer explanation please check out this clip on you tube. Its about one of my favourite hero's in the history of cinema, General George Armstrong Custer in Little Big Man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejssO2XqFcI So I now understand you want me to go ahead and complete the questionnaire for you based on the ample content you have so graciously provided. For starters, I've decided to take your lead and take a stand and use an acronym (imitation being the ...sincerest form of flattery) So henceforth Zombie...will be called: ZomGas with the following being our first show. ZomGas 1: (Guest Ravi Yogi) 1. Your favourite qualities in a woman? A woman who loves me like my mother and always wears  white 2. Your favourite qualities in a man? See answer #1. 3. Your favourite virtue? Selfless devotion to my next female disciple. 4. Your favourite occupation? Being interviewed on ZomGas. 5. What do you appreciate the most in your friends? Their listening skills. 6. Your main fault? Loving too much. 7. Your idea of happiness? Reading WN's posts. 8. Your idea of misery? Reading Turq'sposts. 9. If not yourself, who would you be? Ravi Yogi Yogi (Yogi), the third honorific needed to avoid being confused with that other glorious guy that uses a double handle to avoid being confused with the Sitar player. 10. Where would you like to live? San Jose 11. Your favourite colour? See #1 12. Your favourite heroes in fiction? Lord Rama 13. What characters in history do you most dislike? Gandhi and MLK. 14. Your favourite names? Ravi and Yogi. 15. What I hate the most? Posters who won't take a stand. 16. The military event I admire the most? The Mahabharata 17. The natural talent I'd like to be gifted with? I would like to know more scatological references. 18. What is your present state of mind? How would I know, I'm not writing this. 19. For what fault have you most toleration? excessively loquacious posting 20. Your favourite motto. Woman, love me like my mother and treat me like a guru and we'll get a long just fine.  From: Ravi Yogi
[FairfieldLife] Zombies at your gas tank
http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/c/crowd_of_zombies-11275.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Diving dog
Diving dog in Gentry's trained animal show, 1900 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52594.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals
Hi Mark, Thanks so much for all your recent posts. They have really been a wonderful read and very insightful. Since you had the opportunity to experience Maharishi in a way that most of us never did, I am wondering how you feel about Maharishi being a master, and if you feel or felt that he was or is your personal master? Its an area that I have gone back and forth on many times throughout my life and still hold some confusion about. There is no question that TM has worked for me and that being around him was very powerful, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is in the league of a true master, particularly with all of the things that just don't make sense about him. Your insight would be most helpful 5'm sure if you don't mind. Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:43 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Fruitful, fruitful! You continue to be a huge addition to the content here Mark. Your exchange with Robin on your experiences with Maharishi were fascinating. I was surprised to learn that Bevan wasn't a skin boy. I thought that was one of his claims to fame when he was first with Maharishi in India. The mega intense world at Maharishi's door is so worthy of a book, many books for each person who wants to tell this story. One of the most fascinating books I have read was by Mao's personal physician. You get an insight into his character you get nowhere else. Same for you guys in the hot seat carrying the hot seat. Any details you sprinkle here will fall on many delighted ears. I enjoy your divine experiences as much as any insights into the more human side of Maharishi. Thank you, Curtis When I knew Bevan in the 70s, he confided in me that he was always jealous of the skin boys because he had never gotten to do it himself. I don't know what happened after I left, in '76. My guess is that he never really played that roll, that M had bigger and better ideas for him and didn't want to jeopardize them. I would think, though, he got to physically carry the skin in brief, sporadic situations, but not in the traditional up close and personal way for long periods of time. Please correct me, anyone, if they know more. I started to write a book about it, but decided to let others do that. One of those things...
[FairfieldLife] Life's Wonders
http://skeletonart.com/Detailed/394.html
[FairfieldLife] The Greek Tease
http://skeletonart.com/Detailed/711.html
[FairfieldLife] Pic of Maharishi's Sandals
for sale... http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/19/sandals.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Plus 5 seconds
by Grant Powers, 1946 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/24428.jpg
[FairfieldLife] THOUGHT PROVOKING VIDEO
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[FairfieldLife] Red Chester
http://skeletonart.com/Detailed/389.html
[FairfieldLife] Teapot Gas Pump
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[FairfieldLife] Diving horse (was Re: Diving dog)
Atlantic City Steel Pier, ca. 1930? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Diving dog in Gentry's trained animal show, 1900 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52594.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Actress Anna Held in Colorado Springs
1904 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52463.jpg
[FairfieldLife] John Muir
on Muir's Trail no doubt...(1907) http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52393.jpg
[FairfieldLife] trained elephants
at Gentry's animal show, 1895 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52631.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Rise of Planet of the Apes
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/movie/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/stills/11
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Muir
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: on Muir's Trail no doubt...(1907) http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52393.jpg Oh, that's a beauty. What a terrific photo.
[FairfieldLife] Diving horse (was Re: Diving dog)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Atlantic City Steel Pier, ca. 1930? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: Diving dog in Gentry's trained animal show, 1900 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/6/52594.jpg War Dogs http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/05/04/war_dog?page=0,0
[FairfieldLife] Richard Feynman and Oppenheimer at Los Alamos
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