Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity Rover) Mission Animation

[Emily Reyn]

Judy, this was really incredible.  The information link you attached was also 
so interesting in explaining what the entry looks like. There is a link to a 
narrative of the "peculiar landing" that describes the animation.  I watched it 
full screen - resolution held beautifully.  Thanks.  Only 8.5 months to go.


>
> From: authfriend 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 6:01 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity Rover) Mission 
>Animation
> 
>
>  
>Exceedingly cool animation of the Mars Rover Curiosity
>Mission from JPL, the best I've ever seen of this type. It
>ought to win some kind of special Oscar. (It panders just 
>a tad to the public by using sound effects during the
>in-space part of the mission, but they're well done, at
>least.)
>
>11:20-minute version:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4boyXQuUIw
>
>5:30-minute version:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BudlaGh1A0o
>
>The longer version shows more of what Curiosity will be
>doing after it lands (including "phoning home").
>
>Great infographic showing the various components of the
>spacecraft, landing craft, and rover:
>
>http://www.space.com/13673-mars-science-laboratory-curiosity-rover-landing-infographic.html
>
>The whole assembly reminds me of a set of Russian Matryoshka
>nesting dolls, with one piece after another coming off to
>reveal something new inside.
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[raunchydog]

The Andante Of Snakes

They weave a slow andante as in sleep,
Scaled yellow, swampy black, plague-spotted white;
With blue and lidless eyes at watch they keep
A treachery of silence; infinite

Ancestral angers brood in these dull eyes
Where the long-lineaged venom of the snake
Meditates evil; woven intricacies
Of Oriental arabesque awake,

Unfold, expand, contract, and raise and sway
Swoln heart-shaped heads, flattened as by a heel,
Erect to suck the sunlight from the day,
And stealthily and gradually reveal

Dim cabalistic signs of spots and rings
Among their folds of faded tapestry;
Then these fat, foul, unbreathing, moving things
Droop back to stagnant immobility.

Arthur Symons

 
[http://images.clipartof.com/small/1048180-Royalty-Free-RF-Clip-Art-Illu\
stration-Of-A-Cartoon-Evil-Snake.jpg]


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Dear Vaj,
>
> Look, Vaj: if you can furnish *any* proof that you know me beyond
having (perhaps) been a  witness to an hour's conversation in
Washington, DC 25 years ago where I resisted hearing my astrology chart
read aloud to me (being at that time a serious convert to Catholicism,
and having understood the Church's Teaching about the harm of accepting
some mystical determinism as the explanation for the person that I was),
I will promise to support and champion you here at FFL. And why am I
willing to become a Vaj apologist (if you provide the slightest evidence
to back up your claim: "I'd be happy to refresh your memory!")? Because
clearly, if there is any truth whatsoever in this assertion of
yours—not to mention that indeed you were in fact a TM
initiator—it means that you have decided, even knowing that you are
telling the truth about these things, that you deliberately wish to
arouse suspicion about the veracity of those same claims. And
this—the motive you have in wanting people to doubt the truth of
what you say—intrigues me, as suggesting you are following some
enigmatic and impenetrable mission, a mission whose success evidently
depends upon your acquiring a reputation as a liar and a mountebank.
>
> What this amounts to, then, is some kind of manipulated martyrdom: you
are in fact a TM initiator; you did in fact have personal contact with
Maharishi; you did practice the Sidhis; and you really did have a
face-to-face conversation with me (even hearing me speak about Michael
Jackson—although once I became a Catholic I certainly altered my
idea of everything, including what I took to be something—at that
time 1984-85—angelic about Jackson)—but you choose to shroud all
this in doubt and skepticism. What a fascinating strategy—but I ask:
to what end?
>
> On the other hand, I have decided if this aforementioned
interpretation is in defiance of the actual facts of the matter, then I,
in all sincerity, Vaj, ask that you seek professional help; or, if that
is considered too infra dig, that you seriously attempt to get control
of your compulsions, your Pinocchio-Walter Mitty Syndrome, through some
act of will.
>
> [The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Walter Mitty as "an
ordinary, often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams
of personal triumphs.]
>
> Now I don't of course dismiss your intelligence, nor your knowledge of
various Eastern spiritual practices. And perhaps you are even an
accomplished person in the world. But this hunger to have a purely
imaginary life—associating yourself with TM, with Maharishi, with
being a TM initiator, with knowing (and even having confronted)
myself—when, as you know in your conscience all this is a lie, well,
it just baffles me. But then when I see you in action here at FFL I
realize that this entire fantasy life has got the better of you; that
you cannot help yourself; that you are powerless to get control of this
behaviour. And therefore I am going to look upon you, Vaj, with mercy
and compassion. You cannot help following out this dream world to the
very end.
>
> That is, assuming the alternate interpretation is invalid: that you
are not gathering intelligence for some secret agency who is paying you
a fortune to have your reputation and honour
besmirched—deliberately—by making sure you say things that you
are certain others will know cannot be true.
>
> I would, though—and I realize this is ironic in the
extreme—like to share one confidential fact about me: I am married
to Lady Gaga—Now of course she will deny this if you confront her
with this fact; but the truth is, she has to do this; indeed she is even
supposed not to  remember even that we are married. But know, Vaj that
we *are* married. Just ask her to e-mail you offline and *I* will be
happy to refresh her memory.
>
> Robin
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2011, at 12:41 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know you at all, Vaj. And you don't know me. That first
sentence of yours, it's your signature move. You are a fantasist. If you
can provide the name of one person from

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[raunchydog]

The Andante Of Snakes

They weave a slow andante as in sleep,

Scaled yellow, swampy black, plague-spotted white;
With blue and lidless eyes at watch they keep
A treachery of silence; infinite
Ancestral angers brood in these dull eyes
Where the long-lineaged venom of the snake
Meditates evil; woven intricacies
Of Oriental arabesque awake,
Unfold, expand, contract, and raise and sway
Swoln heart-shaped heads, flattened as by a heel,
Erect to suck the sunlight from the day,
And stealthily and gradually reveal

Dim cabalistic signs of spots and rings
Among their folds of faded tapestry;
Then these fat, foul, unbreathing, moving things
Droop back to stagnant immobility.
Arthur Symons




 
[http://images.clipartof.com/small/1048180-Royalty-Free-RF-Clip-Art-Illu\
stration-Of-A-Cartoon-Evil-Snake.jpg]


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Dear Vaj,
>
> Look, Vaj: if you can furnish *any* proof that you know me beyond
having (perhaps) been a  witness to an hour's conversation in
Washington, DC 25 years ago where I resisted hearing my astrology chart
read aloud to me (being at that time a serious convert to Catholicism,
and having understood the Church's Teaching about the harm of accepting
some mystical determinism as the explanation for the person that I was),
I will promise to support and champion you here at FFL. And why am I
willing to become a Vaj apologist (if you provide the slightest evidence
to back up your claim: "I'd be happy to refresh your memory!")? Because
clearly, if there is any truth whatsoever in this assertion of
yours—not to mention that indeed you were in fact a TM
initiator—it means that you have decided, even knowing that you are
telling the truth about these things, that you deliberately wish to
arouse suspicion about the veracity of those same claims. And
this—the motive you have in wanting people to doubt the truth of
what you say—intrigues me, as suggesting you are following some
enigmatic and impenetrable mission, a mission whose success evidently
depends upon your acquiring a reputation as a liar and a mountebank.
>
> What this amounts to, then, is some kind of manipulated martyrdom: you
are in fact a TM initiator; you did in fact have personal contact with
Maharishi; you did practice the Sidhis; and you really did have a
face-to-face conversation with me (even hearing me speak about Michael
Jackson—although once I became a Catholic I certainly altered my
idea of everything, including what I took to be something—at that
time 1984-85—angelic about Jackson)—but you choose to shroud all
this in doubt and skepticism. What a fascinating strategy—but I ask:
to what end?
>
> On the other hand, I have decided if this aforementioned
interpretation is in defiance of the actual facts of the matter, then I,
in all sincerity, Vaj, ask that you seek professional help; or, if that
is considered too infra dig, that you seriously attempt to get control
of your compulsions, your Pinocchio-Walter Mitty Syndrome, through some
act of will.
>
> [The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Walter Mitty as "an
ordinary, often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams
of personal triumphs.]
>
> Now I don't of course dismiss your intelligence, nor your knowledge of
various Eastern spiritual practices. And perhaps you are even an
accomplished person in the world. But this hunger to have a purely
imaginary life—associating yourself with TM, with Maharishi, with
being a TM initiator, with knowing (and even having confronted)
myself—when, as you know in your conscience all this is a lie, well,
it just baffles me. But then when I see you in action here at FFL I
realize that this entire fantasy life has got the better of you; that
you cannot help yourself; that you are powerless to get control of this
behaviour. And therefore I am going to look upon you, Vaj, with mercy
and compassion. You cannot help following out this dream world to the
very end.
>
> That is, assuming the alternate interpretation is invalid: that you
are not gathering intelligence for some secret agency who is paying you
a fortune to have your reputation and honour
besmirched—deliberately—by making sure you say things that you
are certain others will know cannot be true.
>
> I would, though—and I realize this is ironic in the
extreme—like to share one confidential fact about me: I am married
to Lady Gaga—Now of course she will deny this if you confront her
with this fact; but the truth is, she has to do this; indeed she is even
supposed not to  remember even that we are married. But know, Vaj that
we *are* married. Just ask her to e-mail you offline and *I* will be
happy to refresh her memory.
>
> Robin
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2011, at 12:41 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know you at all, Vaj. And you don't know me. That first
sentence of yours, it's your signature move. You are a fantasist. If you
can provide the name of one person f

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > 
> > On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> > 
> > > So, I would also conclude that YFing is some sort of kundalini
> > > manipulation technique.
> > 
> >  Yes that's right Alex and you win TMSP for 500!
> > 
> > The first moment I flew was my last. I felt an immediate
> > repugnance after that little leap - and no desire to ever
> > repeat it.
> 
> That strikes me as an odd reaction. Why would you feel
> repugnance?

It's also very oddly described. Plus which, it doesn't
seem to fit with what he said in his other post:

"For me there was definite kundalini stirring, tremor, a
cycling of energy in a bouncing manner for weeks, and then
eventually the 'bam' - mind blank - and then a rush of a
pranic 'dew' with my flying episodes."

Also oddly described, and note that he refers here to
"my flying episodes," plural, whereas above he says,
"The first moment I flew was my last." Ooopsie.

Can't help thinking it sounds like the descriptions of
someone who has heard other people talking about flying
sessions and picked up a detail here and a detail there,
then pasted them together into what he thinks is a
coherent narrative using the appropriate lingo, but his
mental images are off because he never himself
participated in a flying session.

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> 
> > So, I would also conclude that YFing is some sort of kundalini
> > manipulation technique.
> 
>  Yes that's right Alex and you win TMSP for 500!
> 
> The first moment I flew was my last. I felt an immediate repugnance
> after that little leap - and no desire to ever repeat it.
>

That strikes me as an odd reaction. Why would you feel repugnance? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[maskedzebra]

Dear Vaj,

Look, Vaj: if you can furnish *any* proof that you know me beyond having 
(perhaps) been a  witness to an hour's conversation in Washington, DC 25 years 
ago where I resisted hearing my astrology chart read aloud to me (being at that 
time a serious convert to Catholicism, and having understood the Church's 
Teaching about the harm of accepting some mystical determinism as the 
explanation for the person that I was), I will promise to support and champion 
you here at FFL. And why am I willing to become a Vaj apologist (if you provide 
the slightest evidence to back up your claim: "I'd be happy to refresh your 
memory!")? Because clearly, if there is any truth whatsoever in this assertion 
of yours—not to mention that indeed you were in fact a TM initiator—it means 
that you have decided, even knowing that you are telling the truth about these 
things, that you deliberately wish to arouse suspicion about the veracity of 
those same claims. And this—the motive you have in wanting people to doubt the 
truth of what you say—intrigues me, as suggesting you are following some 
enigmatic and impenetrable mission, a mission whose success evidently depends 
upon your acquiring a reputation as a liar and a mountebank.

What this amounts to, then, is some kind of manipulated martyrdom: you are in 
fact a TM initiator; you did in fact have personal contact with Maharishi; you 
did practice the Sidhis; and you really did have a face-to-face conversation 
with me (even hearing me speak about Michael Jackson—although once I became a 
Catholic I certainly altered my idea of everything, including what I took to be 
something—at that time 1984-85—angelic about Jackson)—but you choose to shroud 
all this in doubt and skepticism. What a fascinating strategy—but I ask: to 
what end?

On the other hand, I have decided if this aforementioned interpretation is in 
defiance of the actual facts of the matter, then I, in all sincerity, Vaj, ask 
that you seek professional help; or, if that is considered too infra dig, that 
you seriously attempt to get control of your compulsions, your Pinocchio-Walter 
Mitty Syndrome, through some act of will.

[The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Walter Mitty as "an ordinary, often 
ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs.]

Now I don't of course dismiss your intelligence, nor your knowledge of various 
Eastern spiritual practices. And perhaps you are even an accomplished person in 
the world. But this hunger to have a purely imaginary life—associating yourself 
with TM, with Maharishi, with being a TM initiator, with knowing (and even 
having confronted) myself—when, as you know in your conscience all this is a 
lie, well, it just baffles me. But then when I see you in action here at FFL I 
realize that this entire fantasy life has got the better of you; that you 
cannot help yourself; that you are powerless to get control of this behaviour. 
And therefore I am going to look upon you, Vaj, with mercy and compassion. You 
cannot help following out this dream world to the very end.

That is, assuming the alternate interpretation is invalid: that you are not 
gathering intelligence for some secret agency who is paying you a fortune to 
have your reputation and honour besmirched—deliberately—by making sure you say 
things that you are certain others will know cannot be true.

I would, though—and I realize this is ironic in the extreme—like to share one 
confidential fact about me: I am married to Lady Gaga—Now of course she will 
deny this if you confront her with this fact; but the truth is, she has to do 
this; indeed she is even supposed not to  remember even that we are married. 
But know, Vaj that we *are* married. Just ask her to e-mail you offline and *I* 
will be happy to refresh her memory.

Robin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 12:41 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
> 
> > I don't know you at all, Vaj. And you don't know me. That first sentence of 
> > yours, it's your signature move. You are a fantasist. If you can provide 
> > the name of one person from my past who will vouch for your claim to know 
> > me, I will disavow what I say now without equivocation: you are a liar. I 
> > think you could say you travelled with Lenin on the train to Moscow just 
> > before the Revolution. What is this all about, Vaj? This for me is a 
> > dangerous condition. Get a grip. If you overheard something I said about 
> > Michael Jackson back in 1984 you would, without even trying, convey the 
> > context of my experience. This is just something you picked up second-hand. 
> > And it does not communicate, even then (when I was in my Unity 
> > hallucination] what I thought about Michael Jackson. Vaj you have never 
> > once even attempted to establish your bona fides regarding Maharishi, TM, 
> > being a TM teacher, or your personal knowledge of myself. I am amazed that 
> > anyone takes you seriously—that is, whe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity Rover) Mission Animation

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> Got to admit, that is truly awesome! 

Isn't that something? Sheesh, even if everything were to
go wrong, God forbid, the ingenuity of the plan and the
skillfulness of the animation are astounding.



> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Exceedingly cool animation of the Mars Rover Curiosity
> > Mission from JPL, the best I've ever seen of this type. It
> > ought to win some kind of special Oscar. (It panders just 
> > a tad to the public by using sound effects during the
> > in-space part of the mission, but they're well done, at
> > least.)
> > 
> > 11:20-minute version:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4boyXQuUIw
> > 
> > 5:30-minute version:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BudlaGh1A0o
> > 
> > The longer version shows more of what Curiosity will be
> > doing after it lands (including "phoning home").
> > 
> > Great infographic showing the various components of the
> > spacecraft, landing craft, and rover:
> > 
> > http://www.space.com/13673-mars-science-laboratory-curiosity-rover-landing-infographic.html
> > 
> > The whole assembly reminds me of a set of Russian Matryoshka
> > nesting dolls, with one piece after another coming off to
> > reveal something new inside.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity Rover) Mission Animation

[wgm4u]

Got to admit, that is truly awesome! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> Exceedingly cool animation of the Mars Rover Curiosity
> Mission from JPL, the best I've ever seen of this type. It
> ought to win some kind of special Oscar. (It panders just 
> a tad to the public by using sound effects during the
> in-space part of the mission, but they're well done, at
> least.)
> 
> 11:20-minute version:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4boyXQuUIw
> 
> 5:30-minute version:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BudlaGh1A0o
> 
> The longer version shows more of what Curiosity will be
> doing after it lands (including "phoning home").
> 
> Great infographic showing the various components of the
> spacecraft, landing craft, and rover:
> 
> http://www.space.com/13673-mars-science-laboratory-curiosity-rover-landing-infographic.html
> 
> The whole assembly reminds me of a set of Russian Matryoshka
> nesting dolls, with one piece after another coming off to
> reveal something new inside.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: DLF sponsors Bay Area TV news

[shukra69]

I have seen this on some PBS shows too.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> After catching up on the latest episode of Roger Ebert's "At the Movies" 
> on DVR I watched a little of the 8 PM news on San Francisco's KRON 4.  
> When they went to the commercial break their was an announcement "KRON 4 
> news is sponsored by the David Lynch Foundation" and a slide with a 
> picture of Russell Brand.   I stuck around through the commercials but 
> there was no actual spot.  So it is just one of the cheap spots where 
> you pay the station to say that and show a title card (on screen about 
> the length of the announcement).
>

[FairfieldLife] "TM can significantly decrease psychological distress in public school students,

[shukra69]

http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/250754

[FairfieldLife] Mars Science Laboratory (Curiosity Rover) Mission Animation

[authfriend]

Exceedingly cool animation of the Mars Rover Curiosity
Mission from JPL, the best I've ever seen of this type. It
ought to win some kind of special Oscar. (It panders just 
a tad to the public by using sound effects during the
in-space part of the mission, but they're well done, at
least.)

11:20-minute version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4boyXQuUIw

5:30-minute version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BudlaGh1A0o

The longer version shows more of what Curiosity will be
doing after it lands (including "phoning home").

Great infographic showing the various components of the
spacecraft, landing craft, and rover:

http://www.space.com/13673-mars-science-laboratory-curiosity-rover-landing-infographic.html

The whole assembly reminds me of a set of Russian Matryoshka
nesting dolls, with one piece after another coming off to
reveal something new inside.

[FairfieldLife] What will happen when Mitt Romney is sworn as President!

[wgm4u]

And Barack Obama is deposed!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BWhvIlFVE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Sal Sunshine]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 6:02 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

> how did that work? There was a golfball elevator, or it went down an inner 
> ramp? 

First one~~a miniature golfball elevator, that took it up and 
over (all while inside) and then would drop it out of the
bottom on the other side.  Really cool.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:12 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't done it for a few years, though I used to go mini golfing with my 
>>> daughter. The windmill, the fort, the bridge, all those cool little 
>>> environments. I'll have to see if she's interested again one of these days. 
>> 
>> Oh, miniature golf is something else again!  Loved it as a kid.
>> We had this amazing course that actually had a miniature
>> high-rise on one of the holes.
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak takes Oprah to India

[Vaj]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 6:03 PM, obbajeeba wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > A Purusha guy told me yesterday that since visiting FF, Oprah has gone
> > to
> > > India with Deepak. That's all I know about.
> > >
> > Rick, are you sure? Let's put our best people on this. I want solid
> > intel 24/7. Get Girish on the red line. I want dhotis cleaned and
> > pressed.
> >
> 
> Oh oh. No more dome badge for Oprah!

I don't believe the Opranator has been to Sidha Sith training yet.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak takes Oprah to India

[Vaj]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

> A Purusha guy told me yesterday that since visiting FF, Oprah has gone to 
> India with Deepak. That’s all I know about.


OMG! I wonder if Oprah finally found herself.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your note

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bartwalton@..." 
wrote:
>
> Hi Seventh Ray,
>
> Thanks for your note. I'm always astonished how few people are
interested in death and dying. So, it's always a pleasure to meet and
share with someone who is. All the best, BW
>
You're welcome.  Death,  the transition to death, and the after death
states are something I think about a lot.  Also, my dad passed away on
9-10-11.  My sister had certain rituals she insisted up, and in many
cases they jibe with your recommendations. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[whynotnow7]

nO GuRLz ALOWiD Inn BARRieS KluBhoSe

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > "W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all
> > that much there there. Take away the visuals and
> > leave only the music and I've heard better singers
> > at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true."
> > 
> > True for you...in your subjective experience. 
> 
> That's all I'm liable for. :-)
> 
> The whole point of debating different musical
> tastes is a bit of a circle jerk. We love what
> resonates with us. End of story. WHY it resonates 
> with us is something we can rarely, if ever, put 
> into words.
> 
> > I quite enjoy her voice...id'd as a mezzo-soprano. 
> > Perhaps this is more to your liking?
> > 
> > Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau - a baritone and "one of 
> > the supreme vocal artists of the 20th century"
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxMMg6bxrg&feature=related
> 
> Thanks for the thought, and I do appreciate it,
> but at the same time I plead ignorance when it
> comes to operatic or "trained" voices. I'm more
> a fan of "naturally-evolved" voices, in which
> the artist came to their own way of expressing
> themselves vocally. Janis Joplin voices, strained
> (in her case) through a veil of Southern Comfort.
> "Lived in" voices, voices that could never in a 
> million years be accused of being "trained," or 
> classical. Think the four guys who sang about 
> being Highwaymen in the clip posted earlier 
> on this forum. 
> 
> Case in point: Mark Knopfler. I mentioned him
> earlier, because I found myself surfing YouTube,
> finding one of his tracks, and then clicking on
> related links for some time, digging every minute 
> of it.
> 
> Mark doesn't actually think very much of himself
> as a vocalist. And by classical standards, he
> couldn't be more correct. He resisted for many 
> years pressure to become the lead vocalist for 
> Dire Straits. But I think since then he's more
> than "grown into his own voice," to the point 
> that there is really no one on planet Earth who 
> sounds like him.
> 
> He is really and truly unique, whether it comes
> down to his vocals or his equally unique guitar
> style. Sorry if this is a comedown for you from
> Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, but I really plead
> guilty to preferring Mark Knopfler. 
> 
> Presented as further anecdotal evidence that the 
> guy lived interesting past lives, and possibly
> remembers them:
> 
> A Night In Summer Long Ago:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4hzg2oTRI4
> 
> Golden Heart:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_KA9EHJA0
> 
> :-)
> 
> > >
> > > From: turquoiseb 
> > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:29 PM
> > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin
> > > 
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > >> >  wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Link works, but I remain completely baffled by the whole 
> > >> > > Lady Gaga phenomenon. To me, that was just a half-naked 
> > >> > > woman screaming into a microphone while other musicians 
> > >> > > play random noises.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Thank you for this, Alex. I was beginning to fear
> > >> > that standards here had reached a new low. People 
> > >> > are such suckers for a little cheap flash.
> > >> 
> > >> I'm more a sucker for a good dance beat and a catchy 
> > >> melody. 
> > >
> > >Exactly. I have nothing against Lady Gaga per se,
> > >but if I had ever heard a single song of hers on
> > >the radio, with no "special visual effects," I 
> > >would never have paid the least bit of attention
> > >to it. Modern-day elevator music. 
> > >
> > >I don't blame her for this; I blame MTV. They took
> > >the music out of the music industry by relating it
> > >in most people's minds with the visuals. Either a
> > >band or a singer dancing around and acting like
> > >drama queens onstage or a series of non-related 
> > >visual images chosen for their impact, and rarely
> > >a thought to the music itself. 
> > >
> > >W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all 
> > >that much there there. Take away the visuals and 
> > >leave only the music and I've heard better singers
> > >at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your note

[whynotnow7]

No point in jumping the gun either, Bart. On the other hand, I enjoyed the 
first two or three chapters of your link but then you made the assumption that 
I, the reader, was afraid or somehow resisting the idea, the reality of final 
bodily death, and that is where I lost interest. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bartwalton@..."  wrote:
>
> Hi Seventh Ray,
> 
> Thanks for your note. I'm always astonished how few people are interested in 
> death and dying. So, it's always a pleasure to meet and share with someone 
> who is. All the best, BW
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[whynotnow7]

Stay away from the three bean salad at the veg buffet next time and your 
"little leap" won't be so messy. There is no such thing as "Yogic farting".

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> 
> > So, I would also conclude that YFing is some sort of kundalini manipulation 
> > technique.
> 
>  Yes that's right Alex and you win TMSP for 500!
> 
> The first moment I flew was my last. I felt an immediate repugnance after 
> that little leap - and no desire to ever repeat it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by Ann Coulter

[seekliberation]

Ann Coulter has some moments of genius, but she needs to stick to writing only. 
 Every time I see her speak in public or on TV, she puts her foot in her mouth. 
 I remember recently seeing her speak of Herman Cain and she said "democrats 
hate the fact that 'our' blacks are better than their 'blacks'".  It's as if 
she has some keen ability to look at a black man and determine if he's better 
or worse than another.  John Stewart and Stephen Colbert (the only real 
journalists) had a field day with it.

Coulter's other problem is that she seems to have faith in Republicans in the 
midst of her demonizing democrats.  I don't see how anyone could possibly point 
out corruption in one party without including the other.  For every scandal I 
see one party have, you can bet within a month or two the other party will have 
something just as bad.

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Yep.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The current crop of Republicans have been brilliant through
> > > their use of the media, convincing many of us that the
> > > problem is one of money, that we don't have enough wealth
> > > in this great country to care for those who need it. 
> > > 
> > > Every time I hear one of those creeps talk about Social
> > > Security that I have paid into all of my working life as
> > > "an entitlement program", I feel like smacking them. How
> > > heartless and manipulative. Greedy bastards.
> > 
> > Hell, that's what Obama calls it too, especially when
> > he's talking about "reforming" it.
> > 
> >  
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept 
> > > > tax hikes "in return for (the Democrats) agreement to cut spending by 
> > > > $280 billion," but, Reagan continues, "the Democrats reneged on their 
> > > > pledge and we never got those cuts." 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.anncoulter.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[whynotnow7]

Being the ascetic you fashion yourself to be, you probably hadn't had your 
urban hiking boots off for weeks. I'll bet you cleared the Dome! Repugnant 
ain't the word - probably a whole Smucker's load of toe jam in there. Ol' 
Stinky Feet they called you afterwards. I wouldn't have slinked back in there 
either...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> 
> > So, I would also conclude that YFing is some sort of kundalini manipulation 
> > technique.
> 
>  Yes that's right Alex and you win TMSP for 500!
> 
> The first moment I flew was my last. I felt an immediate repugnance after 
> that little leap - and no desire to ever repeat it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post of the week: "Barry is like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him"

[whynotnow7]

maybe he'll spring for a one-way airline ticket...there's no harm in asking...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > "It's the same old Barry. You can always count on him to put the turd in 
> > > the paper bag on the front porch then run away.  I don't know why he 
> > > can't figure out something better to do with his time."
> > > 
> > > I do. He's lonely and needs the interaction on this forum MUCH MORE than 
> > > it needs him. I watched him try a few "nice" posts this past week, after 
> > > he had been exposed as someone with no social skills, AGAIN. 
> > > 
> > > His "nice" stuff is insipid, boring, uncreative and weak. So he dons his 
> > > comfortable persona of antagonist and asshole and VIOLA - ATTENTION! 
> > > Barry is like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him - basically 
> > > ANYTHING for a response. He must feel quite lonely sometimes.
> >
> 
> He wouldn't have to pay me to have sex with him.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[whynotnow7]

how did that work? There was a golfball elevator, or it went down an inner 
ramp? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:12 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> 
> > I haven't done it for a few years, though I used to go mini golfing with my 
> > daughter. The windmill, the fort, the bridge, all those cool little 
> > environments. I'll have to see if she's interested again one of these days. 
> 
> Oh, miniature golf is something else again!  Loved it as a kid.
> We had this amazing course that actually had a miniature
> high-rise on one of the holes.
> 
> Sal
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post of the week: "Barry is like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him"

[Emily Reyn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnEpc0D5AKc

>
> From: obbajeeba 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:55 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post of the week: "Barry is like a whore who will 
>pay you to have sex with him"
> 
>
>  
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>> >
>> > "It's the same old Barry. You can always count on him to put the turd in 
>> > the paper bag on the front porch then run away.  I don't know why he can't 
>> > figure out something better to do with his time."
>> > 
>> > I do. He's lonely and needs the interaction on this forum MUCH MORE than 
>> > it needs him. I watched him try a few "nice" posts this past week, after 
>> > he had been exposed as someone with no social skills, AGAIN. 
>> > 
>> > His "nice" stuff is insipid, boring, uncreative and weak. So he dons his 
>> > comfortable persona of antagonist and asshole and VIOLA - ATTENTION! Barry 
>> > is like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him - basically ANYTHING 
>> > for a response. He must feel quite lonely sometimes.
>>
>
>He wouldn't have to pay me to have sex with him. 
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
wrote:

> Is this just an example or do your kids really play golf?
> I'm guessing no. Mine sure don't. Two of them now drive
> but in many ways are still kids. I can't imagine them in
> my wildest dreams on a golf course. Or me either, for that
> matter.


As you know they go through phases.  The golf phase lasted one summer,
or possibly one and half summers.  Finding courses that were affordable
was always an issue.  And I liked to walk instead of ride.  Generally we
played at a nine hole course on what was considered a less desireable
course, with an occassional good course thrown in.  Then that phase
passed.  (he got his drivers license)

One funny aside.  For hole number seven at Indian Mounds Golf course you
will see a plaque in the club house noting that I had a hole in one.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak takes Oprah to India

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > A Purusha guy told me yesterday that since visiting FF, Oprah has gone
> to
> > India with Deepak. That's all I know about.
> >
> Rick, are you sure?  Let's put our best people on this.  I want solid
> intel 24/7.  Get Girish on the red line.  I want dhotis cleaned and
> pressed.
>

Oh oh. No more dome badge for Oprah!

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Rick should do.

[obbajeeba]

The most enlightened statement on the board! : )
Truly.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Haha.  That's a good one.  Put me last on the listperhaps in 27 years, 
> I'll have achieved spiritual authenticity, or, I give you permission to 
> approach the spirit of my deceased body.  
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: Rick Archer 
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:55 AM
> >Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.
> > 
> >
> >  
> >From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
> >Behalf Of Duveyoung
> >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:46 PM
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.
> > 
> >  
> >Here we got our good-guy Rick interviewing all the souls out there that 
> >claim some sort of spiritual authenticity, and what made it all possible for 
> >Rick?
> >
> >FairFieldLife did.
> >
> >I say, Rick should amass a list of everyone who was ever a member, and, in 
> >chronological order, interview each and all in some manner.
> >
> >That would be scientific, right? Gotta have all the data.
> >
> >Edg
> >Seeing as how there are 1427 members, and I only do one interview a week, 
> >that should keep me busy for the next 27 years. I’ll get right on it.
> > 
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post of the week: "Barry is like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him"

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > "It's the same old Barry. You can always count on him to put the turd in 
> > the paper bag on the front porch then run away.  I don't know why he can't 
> > figure out something better to do with his time."
> > 
> > I do. He's lonely and needs the interaction on this forum MUCH MORE than it 
> > needs him. I watched him try a few "nice" posts this past week, after he 
> > had been exposed as someone with no social skills, AGAIN. 
> > 
> > His "nice" stuff is insipid, boring, uncreative and weak. So he dons his 
> > comfortable persona of antagonist and asshole and VIOLA - ATTENTION! Barry 
> > is like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him - basically ANYTHING 
> > for a response. He must feel quite lonely sometimes.
>

He wouldn't have to pay me to have sex with him. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > He pushed your buttons! He pushed your buttons!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, and I pushed yours.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, you didn't. But  Barry did. It always strikes me as odd 
> > > > that Barry can rarely make a point without some kind of cutting 
> > > > remark. Most of the time I don't respond, but occassionally, I 
> > > > feel the need to make a reply. Is this what his participation 
> > > > has turned into?  
> > > 
> > > Absolutely. Look at who I'm dealing with. :-)
> > > 
> > > People who still, 20 or more years later, can't admit 
> > > to themselves that they paid thousands of dollars for
> > > a bunch of phrases *in English* that they could have
> > > gotten -- VERBATIM -- from a $3.95 paperback edition
> > > of the Yoga Sutras. That is what the "TM Sidhi program"
> > > really IS.
> > 
> > Taimni's English translation of the suutra what I think number
> > 12 in my set is based on, has almost 30 words (articles
> > not counted as separate words), whereas my Finnish
> > "practical" version of that suutra has only five words.
> > 
> > The original Sanskrit suutra, which I think is this one:
> > 
> > sattva-puruSayor atyanta+asaMkiirNayoH pratyaya+avisheSo
> > bhogaH para+arthaat sva+artha-saMyamaat puruSa-jñaanam.
> > 
> > ... has something like 14 words, counting the components
> > of compound words as individual words.
> 
> Whatever. I just remember being on a course in Switzerland,
> having paid several thousand dollars for it, being taught 
> my TM-Sidhis by a 20-dollar cassette recorder hooked up
> to a series of 2 dollar earphones, and walking upstairs, 
> to find that everything I had just been taught was there
> in the $3.95 paperback of the Yoga Sutras I'd brought with
> me. Only a couple of words were in any way different.
> 
> At that point I laughed out loud, because I realized I'd
> been had. I realized that even though I "flew" the first
> day. The "flying" was from my point of view nothing more
> than a tiny burst of kundalini parsed through a bunch of
> suggestions and moodmaking. I never felt it to be any more
> than that, or any more "enlightening" or valuable than that.
> 
> So shoot me. You can have a different opinion of the TM
> Sidhis if you'd like. Some people seem to have really
> gotten off on them. Then again, some people get off on
> Lady Gaga and on Bad Writing. There is simply no account-
> ing for bad taste and low standards. :-)
> 
> But don't ask me to pretend that they are any big deal,
> or that they are anything other than a scam that worked
> so well that thousands of people and hundreds of thousands
> of dollars and 35 years later, people are *still* unable
> to describe what they paid thousands of dollars for 
> accurately. They're still hiding behind "what we learn
> in private we keep private." In my honest opinion, they
> are doing this to keep other people who *didn't* pay
> thousands of dollars for four bucks' worth of English
> from realizing that they did, and thus considering them
> the doofuses they were.
> 
> Me, I'm comfortable with having been a doofus. I realized
> it the first day, and was able to laugh at myself then.
> I still am today.
>

The reason I believe TM-siddhis work is that for a neurasthenic
lad suffering from moderate androphobia, like myself, they seem to be "too 
effective", especially the
flying suutra. When I occasionally do YF even for a minute
or so, weird frustrating and confusing things start to happen... ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Fanboy Robin

[Vaj]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:45 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

> I'm not really sure *what* it was. I don't think 
> that the actual technique does much of anything, so
> for me it's a matter of figuring out what the other
> factors -- suggestion, expectation, group pressure,
> etc. -- might have been. All I know is that I don't
> miss it.

For me there was definite kundalini stirring, tremor, a cycling of energy in a 
bouncing manner for weeks, and then eventually the "bam" - mind blank - and 
then a rush of a pranic "dew" with my flying episodes.

> 
> > Looking back, I can see the concrete benefits from having 
> > done the basic TM technique; I can't say the same for the 
> > TM-Sidhis.
> 
> Yup. I have no problem with those who had a different
> experience. It's just that I was ready to give it up
> a month into the whole thing, and it only took me a
> few months following my return to the US to actually do 
> it. And I have no regrets about that; I get higher
> from my current daily meditation than I ever did from
> the TM-Sidhis, and I don't have to spend several hours
> of my day doing it...or show a badge to do it.

If it wasn't for the simultaneous revulsion I felt, who knows I'd probably have 
done it longer. But it was just one of those things I dropped without an 
instant of hesitation. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Fanboy Robin

[Vaj]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:

> So, I would also conclude that YFing is some sort of kundalini manipulation 
> technique.

 Yes that's right Alex and you win TMSP for 500!

The first moment I flew was my last. I felt an immediate repugnance after that 
little leap - and no desire to ever repeat it.

[FairfieldLife] Your note

[bartwal...@rocketmail.com]

Hi Seventh Ray,

Thanks for your note. I'm always astonished how few people are interested in 
death and dying. So, it's always a pleasure to meet and share with someone who 
is. All the best, BW

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Fanboy Robin

[Vaj]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:37 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

> > Apparently Gaga is a reincarnated Monte Cassino casualty 
> > or somethin'? I dunno - but I always considered Tony a great 
> > Dzogchenpo benefactor.
> 
> I thought it was just "Drama queen likes drama queen." :-)


Well there's certainly that trend - I mean his guru trip was setting himself up 
on a stage, as leading man and director! A bizarre scene from the start.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Fanboy Robin

[Vaj]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 12:41 AM, maskedzebra wrote:

> I don't know you at all, Vaj. And you don't know me. That first sentence of 
> yours, it's your signature move. You are a fantasist. If you can provide the 
> name of one person from my past who will vouch for your claim to know me, I 
> will disavow what I say now without equivocation: you are a liar. I think you 
> could say you travelled with Lenin on the train to Moscow just before the 
> Revolution. What is this all about, Vaj? This for me is a dangerous 
> condition. Get a grip. If you overheard something I said about Michael 
> Jackson back in 1984 you would, without even trying, convey the context of my 
> experience. This is just something you picked up second-hand. And it does not 
> communicate, even then (when I was in my Unity hallucination] what I thought 
> about Michael Jackson. Vaj you have never once even attempted to establish 
> your bona fides regarding Maharishi, TM, being a TM teacher, or your personal 
> knowledge of myself. I am amazed that anyone takes you seriously—that is, 
> when you attempt to falsify your personal history. You are a stranger to me, 
> Vaj. And if you did in fact meet me that one afternoon, I can't recall you 
> saying anything to me at all. Until you are willing to be honest with me I 
> will simply reject all your claims to know anything at all about me—from 
> personal experience.


Great Robin. Email me off list and I'd be happy to refresh your memory!

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> Thanks for the thought, and I do appreciate it,
> but at the same time I plead ignorance when it
> comes to operatic or "trained" voices. I'm more
> a fan of "naturally-evolved" voices, in which
> the artist came to their own way of expressing
> themselves vocally.

News flash: Trained singers also come to their
own way of expressing themselves vocally. Each
has his/her own unique style and vocal qualities,
which he or she learns to exploit to their
greatest advantage.

What their training does is allow them to use
their voices with a much greater degree of skill
and depth and subtlety of interpretation, and in
a much wider range of types of music than can
untrained singers.

Bottom line, there's a lot more to appreciate 
about the trained voice of a talented singer than
a "naturally evolved" voice. But people who don't
listen to many kinds of music are unlikely to be
aware of the limitations of the voice of an
untrained singer who can sing only the kinds of
music they listen to.

[FairfieldLife] TrueTyme

[Rick Archer]

>From a BatGap watcher, who wants me to spread the word: http://truetyme.org/

[FairfieldLife] DLF sponsors Bay Area TV news

[Bhairitu]

After catching up on the latest episode of Roger Ebert's "At the Movies" 
on DVR I watched a little of the 8 PM news on San Francisco's KRON 4.  
When they went to the commercial break their was an announcement "KRON 4 
news is sponsored by the David Lynch Foundation" and a slide with a 
picture of Russell Brand.   I stuck around through the commercials but 
there was no actual spot.  So it is just one of the cheap spots where 
you pay the station to say that and show a title card (on screen about 
the length of the announcement).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by Ann Coulter

[Emily Reyn]

http://www.anncoulter.com/


Ann Coulter?  Please...just post Rush Limbaugh and be done with it.

This is great by the wayBill Maher and Ann Coulter...she accuses him of  
"misogyny"LOL on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNBkc3D-VTg&feature=related

 


>
> From: whynotnow7 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:03 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by Ann Coulter
> 
>
>  
>Yep.
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>> >
>> > The current crop of Republicans have been brilliant through
>> > their use of the media, convincing many of us that the
>> > problem is one of money, that we don't have enough wealth
>> > in this great country to care for those who need it. 
>> > 
>> > Every time I hear one of those creeps talk about Social
>> > Security that I have paid into all of my working life as
>> > "an entitlement program", I feel like smacking them. How
>> > heartless and manipulative. Greedy bastards.
>> 
>> Hell, that's what Obama calls it too, especially when
>> he's talking about "reforming" it.
>> 
>> 
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > As Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept 
>> > > tax hikes "in return for (the Democrats) agreement to cut spending by 
>> > > $280 billion," but, Reagan continues, "the Democrats reneged on their 
>> > > pledge and we never got those cuts." 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > http://www.anncoulter.com/
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
> 
>
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Sal Sunshine]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 1:12 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:

> I haven't done it for a few years, though I used to go mini golfing with my 
> daughter. The windmill, the fort, the bridge, all those cool little 
> environments. I'll have to see if she's interested again one of these days. 

Oh, miniature golf is something else again!  Loved it as a kid.
We had this amazing course that actually had a miniature
high-rise on one of the holes.

Sal 

RE: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Emily Reyn
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 1:05 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.

 

  

Haha.  That's a good one.  Put me last on the listperhaps in 27 years, I'll 
have achieved spiritual authenticity, or, I give you permission to approach the 
spirit of my deceased body.  

 

I’ll be 89 then, so maybe both of our deceased bodies can put on a show.

 

 

 


  _  


From: Rick Archer 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.

  

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:46 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.

 

  

Here we got our good-guy Rick interviewing all the souls out there that claim 
some sort of spiritual authenticity, and what made it all possible for Rick?

FairFieldLife did.

I say, Rick should amass a list of everyone who was ever a member, and, in 
chronological order, interview each and all in some manner.

That would be scientific, right? Gotta have all the data.

Edg

Seeing as how there are 1427 members, and I only do one interview a week, that 
should keep me busy for the next 27 years. I’ll get right on it.

 



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[FairfieldLife] Post of the week: "Barry is like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him"

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> "It's the same old Barry. You can always count on him to put the turd in the 
> paper bag on the front porch then run away.  I don't know why he can't figure 
> out something better to do with his time."
> 
> I do. He's lonely and needs the interaction on this forum MUCH MORE than it 
> needs him. I watched him try a few "nice" posts this past week, after he had 
> been exposed as someone with no social skills, AGAIN. 
> 
> His "nice" stuff is insipid, boring, uncreative and weak. So he dons his 
> comfortable persona of antagonist and asshole and VIOLA - ATTENTION! Barry is 
> like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him - basically ANYTHING for a 
> response. He must feel quite lonely sometimes. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[Emily Reyn]

"Sorry, but it's true."

I was simply questioning the wording of this statementI see by the 
explanation below that you meant to say "Sorry, but it's true for me."

Music appreciation is a subjective thing...I grew up with opera and hated most 
of it.  But I also associated it with a lot of family dysfunction.  Only 
recently, have I been revisiting the music and appreciating it more (albeit in 
small doses).  

By the way, I loved the Mark Knopfler song as welleasy listening :)






>
> From: turquoiseb 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:33 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin
> 
>
>  
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> "W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all
>> that much there there. Take away the visuals and
>> leave only the music and I've heard better singers
>> at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true."
>> 
>> True for you...in your subjective experience. 
>
>That's all I'm liable for. :-)
>
>The whole point of debating different musical
>tastes is a bit of a circle jerk. We love what
>resonates with us. End of story. WHY it resonates 
>with us is something we can rarely, if ever, put 
>into words.
>
>> I quite enjoy her voice...id'd as a mezzo-soprano. 
>> Perhaps this is more to your liking?
>> 
>> Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau - a baritone and "one of 
>> the supreme vocal artists of the 20th century"
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxMMg6bxrg&feature=related
>
>Thanks for the thought, and I do appreciate it,
>but at the same time I plead ignorance when it
>comes to operatic or "trained" voices. I'm more
>a fan of "naturally-evolved" voices, in which
>the artist came to their own way of expressing
>themselves vocally. Janis Joplin voices, strained
>(in her case) through a veil of Southern Comfort.
>"Lived in" voices, voices that could never in a 
>million years be accused of being "trained," or 
>classical. Think the four guys who sang about 
>being Highwaymen in the clip posted earlier 
>on this forum. 
>
>Case in point: Mark Knopfler. I mentioned him
>earlier, because I found myself surfing YouTube,
>finding one of his tracks, and then clicking on
>related links for some time, digging every minute 
>of it.
>
>Mark doesn't actually think very much of himself
>as a vocalist. And by classical standards, he
>couldn't be more correct. He resisted for many 
>years pressure to become the lead vocalist for 
>Dire Straits. But I think since then he's more
>than "grown into his own voice," to the point 
>that there is really no one on planet Earth who 
>sounds like him.
>
>He is really and truly unique, whether it comes
>down to his vocals or his equally unique guitar
>style. Sorry if this is a comedown for you from
>Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, but I really plead
>guilty to preferring Mark Knopfler. 
>
>Presented as further anecdotal evidence that the 
>guy lived interesting past lives, and possibly
>remembers them:
>
>A Night In Summer Long Ago:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4hzg2oTRI4
>
>Golden Heart:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_KA9EHJA0
>
>:-)
>
>> >
>> > From: turquoiseb 
>> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:29 PM
>> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin
>> > 
>> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Link works, but I remain completely baffled by the whole 
>> >> > > Lady Gaga phenomenon. To me, that was just a half-naked 
>> >> > > woman screaming into a microphone while other musicians 
>> >> > > play random noises.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Thank you for this, Alex. I was beginning to fear
>> >> > that standards here had reached a new low. People 
>> >> > are such suckers for a little cheap flash.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm more a sucker for a good dance beat and a catchy 
>> >> melody. 
>> >
>> >Exactly. I have nothing against Lady Gaga per se,
>> >but if I had ever heard a single song of hers on
>> >the radio, with no "special visual effects," I 
>> >would never have paid the least bit of attention
>> >to it. Modern-day elevator music. 
>> >
>> >I don't blame her for this; I blame MTV. They took
>> >the music out of the music industry by relating it
>> >in most people's minds with the visuals. Either a
>> >band or a singer dancing around and acting like
>> >drama queens onstage or a series of non-related 
>> >visual images chosen for their impact, and rarely
>> >a thought to the music itself. 
>> >
>> >W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all 
>> >that much there there. Take away the visuals and 
>> >leave only the music and I've heard better singers
>> >at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true.
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by Ann Coulter

[Bhairitu]

Apparently the Republicans think the majority of the country is a bunch 
of mindless dolts who believe anything you tell them, especially if you 
wear a suit.

For those with Netflix WI be sure to watch "Casino Jack" with Kevin 
Spacey.  It's a biopic about Jack Abramoff, who now out of prison 
threatens to spill the beans about corruption in DC.  I finally got 
around to watching it last night and highly recommend it.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Casino_Jack/70122321


On 11/27/2011 09:28 AM, whynotnow7 wrote:
> The current crop of Republicans have been brilliant through their use of the 
> media, convincing many of us that the problem is one of money, that we don't 
> have enough wealth in this great country to care for those who need it.
>
> Every time I hear one of those creeps talk about Social Security that I have 
> paid into all of my working life as "an entitlement program", I feel like 
> smacking them. How heartless and manipulative. Greedy bastards.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>> As Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept tax 
>> hikes "in return for (the Democrats) agreement to cut spending by $280 
>> billion," but, Reagan continues, "the Democrats reneged on their pledge and 
>> we never got those cuts."
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.anncoulter.com/
>>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[Emily Reyn]

"The fact is---I'm worried about our immortal souls." 


Me too.  Particularly after watching this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDMlG6DaYks&feature=related


>
> From: Bob Price 
>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:32 AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin
> 
>
>  
>
>
>From: turquoiseb 
>
>
>
>Suffice it to say this was...my experience;
>not only was I non-averse to whacking off, I had a
>lady-friend in town
>
>***I love King Baby, he never disappoints; you can wind him up, and set your 
>watch by him. I'm wondering though,
>if it wasn't a bit cruel the way a number of the FFL posters *set him up* this
>weekend; I mean, here we go again, winding him up, and getting him to stick out
>his tongue, after we embarrass him in front of the girls; a number of posters 
>in
>particular should be ashamed for baiting him with LG. We all know the pattern;
>a strong woman, with boatloads of talent, is mentioned, and off he goes. First
>the compulsive typing starts, then the name calling, then we hear about all the
>talented people he's met, then the convoluted twisting and turning trying to
>pretend he has a life beyond FFL, and then, as if we haven't suffered enough,
>the spam TV reviews start rolling in; all that's left is the martial arts post
>explaining how macho it is to play run away knock.   
>
>I think we need to look a little closer at the possible meanness of mocking 
>someone so emotionally
>developed that he talks about wanking, and a woman, he wants us to believe was
>interested in him, in the same paragraph. As a character study, we might be
>forgiven, for wondering---if there was such a woman, what was she like, but of
>course, if there was such a woman, we don't have to look much further than FFL,
>and the KB's fan base. Come on people, is it fair, to keep making fun of
>someone who claims he flew, and who's only complaint is that he paid to 
>much---at
>some point---it gets a little embarrassing. 
>
>I have a few bucks that say; this is not the only group that gets a good 
>chuckle out of watching KB's demonstrate
>his emotional maturity---my concern is that the other forums are not as mean as
>we are, and if we keep it up, we're all going to hell (and we all know hell
>must be an eternity--- reading KB's TV reviews).
>
>So here's what I propose; a few of us collaborate, and provide KB something he 
>actually knows a thing or two
>about---you guessed it, a manual. What I'm proposing is that we pitch in, and
>together, to make up for all this bad karma we've accumulated, making fun of
>Barry, and write a manual about *feelings*, for when he's *feeling* a bit 
>disoriented
>as to what might be the appropriate response to a particular post. It could
>include highlights like; how to tell if you are being mocked, what's ironic and
>what's not, when you should feel embarrassed; about getting your buttons 
>pushed---while
>claiming you're doing the button pushing, tail-gating others creativity, 
>compulsively
>name dropping, and when its polite to keep your misogyny to yourself. Obviously
>there is a lot of territory to cover, but if we work together I think we can
>make up for our past behavior. The fact is---I'm worried about our immortal 
>souls. 
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3BNRF9ICc
>
> 
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> 
> "W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all
> that much there there. Take away the visuals and
> leave only the music and I've heard better singers
> at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true."
> 
> True for you...in your subjective experience. 

That's all I'm liable for. :-)

The whole point of debating different musical
tastes is a bit of a circle jerk. We love what
resonates with us. End of story. WHY it resonates 
with us is something we can rarely, if ever, put 
into words.

> I quite enjoy her voice...id'd as a mezzo-soprano. 
> Perhaps this is more to your liking?
> 
> Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau - a baritone and "one of 
> the supreme vocal artists of the 20th century"
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxMMg6bxrg&feature=related

Thanks for the thought, and I do appreciate it,
but at the same time I plead ignorance when it
comes to operatic or "trained" voices. I'm more
a fan of "naturally-evolved" voices, in which
the artist came to their own way of expressing
themselves vocally. Janis Joplin voices, strained
(in her case) through a veil of Southern Comfort.
"Lived in" voices, voices that could never in a 
million years be accused of being "trained," or 
classical. Think the four guys who sang about 
being Highwaymen in the clip posted earlier 
on this forum. 

Case in point: Mark Knopfler. I mentioned him
earlier, because I found myself surfing YouTube,
finding one of his tracks, and then clicking on
related links for some time, digging every minute 
of it.

Mark doesn't actually think very much of himself
as a vocalist. And by classical standards, he
couldn't be more correct. He resisted for many 
years pressure to become the lead vocalist for 
Dire Straits. But I think since then he's more
than "grown into his own voice," to the point 
that there is really no one on planet Earth who 
sounds like him.

He is really and truly unique, whether it comes
down to his vocals or his equally unique guitar
style. Sorry if this is a comedown for you from
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, but I really plead
guilty to preferring Mark Knopfler. 

Presented as further anecdotal evidence that the 
guy lived interesting past lives, and possibly
remembers them:

A Night In Summer Long Ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4hzg2oTRI4

Golden Heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_KA9EHJA0

:-)

> >
> > From: turquoiseb 
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:29 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin
> > 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> >> >  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Link works, but I remain completely baffled by the whole 
> >> > > Lady Gaga phenomenon. To me, that was just a half-naked 
> >> > > woman screaming into a microphone while other musicians 
> >> > > play random noises.
> >> > 
> >> > Thank you for this, Alex. I was beginning to fear
> >> > that standards here had reached a new low. People 
> >> > are such suckers for a little cheap flash.
> >> 
> >> I'm more a sucker for a good dance beat and a catchy 
> >> melody. 
> >
> >Exactly. I have nothing against Lady Gaga per se,
> >but if I had ever heard a single song of hers on
> >the radio, with no "special visual effects," I 
> >would never have paid the least bit of attention
> >to it. Modern-day elevator music. 
> >
> >I don't blame her for this; I blame MTV. They took
> >the music out of the music industry by relating it
> >in most people's minds with the visuals. Either a
> >band or a singer dancing around and acting like
> >drama queens onstage or a series of non-related 
> >visual images chosen for their impact, and rarely
> >a thought to the music itself. 
> >
> >W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all 
> >that much there there. Take away the visuals and 
> >leave only the music and I've heard better singers
> >at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let your Senator pass S 1867!

[Bhairitu]

On 11/26/2011 05:16 PM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote:
>
> Bhairitu:
>> It CAN happen here...
>>
> You sound really scared. You want to have
> a trial for captured terrorists in downtown
> New York City?
>
> "In a floor statement Thursday, Levin
> noted that Obama would retain the ability
> to determine whether suspects remain in
> civilian custody or be transferred to the
> military, as well as whether they'd be
> charged in civilian courts or before a
> military commission.
>
> The lawmaker said the provision expressly
> allows the FBI or other civilian agencies
> to continue ongoing probes or interrogations.
> And he said the language excludes all U.S.
> citizens and immigrants in the country
> legally..."
>
> 'Obama Threatens Veto of Defense Authorization Bill'
> National Journal:
> http://tinyurl.com/7p4s98v
>
>

Obama shouldn't have to veto the bill.  It should never have been 
written in the first place.  Don't we have enough laws already?  Yes, I 
know that makes me sound like a conservative but many liberals also 
think we have too many and too complicated laws.  The downfall o the US 
is legislating itself to death.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[whynotnow7]

I haven't done it for a few years, though I used to go mini golfing with my 
daughter. The windmill, the fort, the bridge, all those cool little 
environments. I'll have to see if she's interested again one of these days. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 11:50 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >  
> > > Not such a bad way to spend a lifetime, not at all. And I bet that living 
> > > in Fairfield can be very nurturing in lots of ways and a nice way to live 
> > > a life within a community - even if it is among those on the fringes of 
> > > the TMO who still meditate but look at the hierarchy and garbage with 
> > > discomfort..
> > > >
> > I would guess that most are on the fringes.  But meditating in a large 
> > group does not sound bad, if you are into that.  But mostly I think it 
> > might be nice to have friends, and activities where you might run into your 
> > friends. 
> > 
> > On the other hand, I pretty much have no friends where I am.  In fact 
> > people try to be my friend and I gently rebuff them.  But that is mainly a 
> > function of wanting to spend any free time with my immediate family.  The 
> > thought of spending 3-1/2 hours playing 18 holes of golf,  with a friend or 
> > acquaintance has no attraction for me.  But spending that same amount of 
> > time, doing that same activity, (okay, maybe just 9 holes) with my son or 
> > daughter would be the height of enjoyment.
> 
> Is this just an example or do your kids really play golf?
> I'm guessing no.  Mine sure don't.  Two of them now drive
> but in many ways are still kids.  I can't imagine them in
> my wildest dreams on a golf course.  Or me either, for that
> matter.
> 
> Sal
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.

[Emily Reyn]

Haha.  That's a good one.  Put me last on the listperhaps in 27 years, I'll 
have achieved spiritual authenticity, or, I give you permission to approach the 
spirit of my deceased body.  



>
> From: Rick Archer 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:55 AM
>Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.
> 
>
>  
>From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Duveyoung
>Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:46 PM
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.
> 
>  
>Here we got our good-guy Rick interviewing all the souls out there that claim 
>some sort of spiritual authenticity, and what made it all possible for Rick?
>
>FairFieldLife did.
>
>I say, Rick should amass a list of everyone who was ever a member, and, in 
>chronological order, interview each and all in some manner.
>
>That would be scientific, right? Gotta have all the data.
>
>Edg
>Seeing as how there are 1427 members, and I only do one interview a week, that 
>should keep me busy for the next 27 years. I’ll get right on it.
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by Ann Coulter

[whynotnow7]

Yep.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > The current crop of Republicans have been brilliant through
> > their use of the media, convincing many of us that the
> > problem is one of money, that we don't have enough wealth
> > in this great country to care for those who need it. 
> > 
> > Every time I hear one of those creeps talk about Social
> > Security that I have paid into all of my working life as
> > "an entitlement program", I feel like smacking them. How
> > heartless and manipulative. Greedy bastards.
> 
> Hell, that's what Obama calls it too, especially when
> he's talking about "reforming" it.
> 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > >
> > > As Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept 
> > > tax hikes "in return for (the Democrats) agreement to cut spending by 
> > > $280 billion," but, Reagan continues, "the Democrats reneged on their 
> > > pledge and we never got those cuts." 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.anncoulter.com/
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[Emily Reyn]

"W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all 
that much there there. Take away the visuals and 
leave only the music and I've heard better singers
at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true."

True for you...in your subjective experience.  I quite enjoy her voice...id'd 
as a mezzo-soprano.  Perhaps this is more to your liking?

Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau - a baritone and "one of the supreme vocal artists of 
the 20th century"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxMMg6bxrg&feature=related



>
> From: turquoiseb 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:29 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin
> 
>
>  
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
>wrote:
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>> >
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
>> >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Link works, but I remain completely baffled by the whole 
>> > > Lady Gaga phenomenon. To me, that was just a half-naked 
>> > > woman screaming into a microphone while other musicians 
>> > > play random noises.
>> > 
>> > Thank you for this, Alex. I was beginning to fear
>> > that standards here had reached a new low. People 
>> > are such suckers for a little cheap flash.
>> 
>> I'm more a sucker for a good dance beat and a catchy 
>> melody. 
>
>Exactly. I have nothing against Lady Gaga per se,
>but if I had ever heard a single song of hers on
>the radio, with no "special visual effects," I 
>would never have paid the least bit of attention
>to it. Modern-day elevator music. 
>
>I don't blame her for this; I blame MTV. They took
>the music out of the music industry by relating it
>in most people's minds with the visuals. Either a
>band or a singer dancing around and acting like
>drama queens onstage or a series of non-related 
>visual images chosen for their impact, and rarely
>a thought to the music itself. 
>
>W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all 
>that much there there. Take away the visuals and 
>leave only the music and I've heard better singers
>at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true.
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[Bob Price]

From: turquoiseb 



Suffice it to say this was...my experience;
not only was I non-averse to whacking off, I had a
lady-friend in town



***I love King Baby, he never disappoints; you can wind him up, and set your 
watch by him. I'm wondering though,
if it wasn't a bit cruel the way a number of the FFL posters *set him up* this
weekend; I mean, here we go again, winding him up, and getting him to stick out
his tongue, after we embarrass him in front of the girls; a number of posters in
particular should be ashamed for baiting him with LG. We all know the pattern;
a strong woman, with boatloads of talent, is mentioned, and off he goes. First
the compulsive typing starts, then the name calling, then we hear about all the
talented people he's met, then the convoluted twisting and turning trying to
pretend he has a life beyond FFL, and then, as if we haven't suffered enough,
the spam TV reviews start rolling in; all that's left is the martial arts post
explaining how macho it is to play run away knock.   


I think we need to look a little closer at the possible meanness of mocking 
someone so emotionally
developed that he talks about wanking, and a woman, he wants us to believe was
interested in him, in the same paragraph. As a character study, we might be
forgiven, for wondering---if there was such a woman, what was she like, but of
course, if there was such a woman, we don't have to look much further than FFL,
and the KB's fan base. Come on people, is it fair, to keep making fun of
someone who claims he flew, and who's only complaint is that he paid to 
much---at
some point---it gets a little embarrassing. 


I have a few bucks that say; this is not the only group that gets a good 
chuckle out of watching KB's demonstrate
his emotional maturity---my concern is that the other forums are not as mean as
we are, and if we keep it up, we're all going to hell (and we all know hell
must be an eternity--- reading KB's TV reviews).

So here's what I propose; a few of us collaborate, and provide KB something he 
actually knows a thing or two
about---you guessed it, a manual. What I'm proposing is that we pitch in, and
together, to make up for all this bad karma we've accumulated, making fun of
Barry, and write a manual about *feelings*, for when he's *feeling* a bit 
disoriented
as to what might be the appropriate response to a particular post. It could
include highlights like; how to tell if you are being mocked, what's ironic and
what's not, when you should feel embarrassed; about getting your buttons 
pushed---while
claiming you're doing the button pushing, tail-gating others creativity, 
compulsively
name dropping, and when its polite to keep your misogyny to yourself. Obviously
there is a lot of territory to cover, but if we work together I think we can
make up for our past behavior. The fact is---I'm worried about our immortal 
souls. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3BNRF9ICc


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Sal Sunshine]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 11:50 AM, seventhray1 wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>  
> > Not such a bad way to spend a lifetime, not at all. And I bet that living 
> > in Fairfield can be very nurturing in lots of ways and a nice way to live a 
> > life within a community - even if it is among those on the fringes of the 
> > TMO who still meditate but look at the hierarchy and garbage with 
> > discomfort..
> > >
> I would guess that most are on the fringes.  But meditating in a large group 
> does not sound bad, if you are into that.  But mostly I think it might be 
> nice to have friends, and activities where you might run into your friends. 
> 
> On the other hand, I pretty much have no friends where I am.  In fact people 
> try to be my friend and I gently rebuff them.  But that is mainly a function 
> of wanting to spend any free time with my immediate family.  The thought of 
> spending 3-1/2 hours playing 18 holes of golf,  with a friend or acquaintance 
> has no attraction for me.  But spending that same amount of time, doing that 
> same activity, (okay, maybe just 9 holes) with my son or daughter would be 
> the height of enjoyment.

Is this just an example or do your kids really play golf?
I'm guessing no.  Mine sure don't.  Two of them now drive
but in many ways are still kids.  I can't imagine them in
my wildest dreams on a golf course.  Or me either, for that
matter.

Sal 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:

> Not such a bad way to spend a lifetime, not at all. And I bet that
living in Fairfield can be very nurturing in lots of ways and a nice way
to live a life within a community - even if it is among those on the
fringes of the TMO who still meditate but look at the hierarchy and
garbage with discomfort..
> >
I would guess that most are on the fringes.  But meditating in a large
group does not sound bad, if you are into that.  But mostly I think it
might be nice to have friends, and activities where you might run into
your friends.

On the other hand, I pretty much have no friends where I am.  In fact
people try to be my friend and I gently rebuff them.  But that is mainly
a function of wanting to spend any free time with my immediate family. 
The thought of spending 3-1/2 hours playing 18 holes of golf,  with a
friend or acquaintance has no attraction for me.  But spending that same
amount of time, doing that same activity, (okay, maybe just 9 holes)
with my son or daughter would be the height of enjoyment.

Also, the job is somewhat demanding, mentally, but the hours are normal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by Ann Coulter

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> The current crop of Republicans have been brilliant through
> their use of the media, convincing many of us that the
> problem is one of money, that we don't have enough wealth
> in this great country to care for those who need it. 
> 
> Every time I hear one of those creeps talk about Social
> Security that I have paid into all of my working life as
> "an entitlement program", I feel like smacking them. How
> heartless and manipulative. Greedy bastards.

Hell, that's what Obama calls it too, especially when
he's talking about "reforming" it.

 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> >
> > As Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept tax 
> > hikes "in return for (the Democrats) agreement to cut spending by $280 
> > billion," but, Reagan continues, "the Democrats reneged on their pledge and 
> > we never got those cuts." 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.anncoulter.com/
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> 
> > What is interesting for our subset is that we "got real" in contrast
> to the TM inspired ideals and optimism of our 20's. A big shift . And, I
> am still grateful for my TM days and my TM practice.
> 
> 
> I had so bought into those ideals.  I too am grateful for the
> experience.  Also grateful that I stepped off, and went a more
> traditional route.  On the other hand, I see many that I knew during my
> TM days, many who were smarter than me and who could have probably made
> a big splash in the "real" world, but who stayed with the program, i.e.
> living in Fairfield, probably scraping by somewhat.  Is that such a bad
> way to spend a lifetime?
> 
> When I talk to them periodically, they all sound completely normal. 
> They still joke, they still like to have the same kind of fun I do. 
> They just chose a slightly different lifestyle.

Not such a bad way to spend a lifetime, not at all. And I bet that living in 
Fairfield can be very nurturing in lots of ways and a nice way to live a life 
within a community - even if it is among those on the fringes of the TMO who 
still meditate but look at the hierarchy and garbage with discomfort..
>

[FairfieldLife] Mystical Udumbara Flower Spotted

[shukra69]

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/mystical-udumbara-flower-spotted-in-california-backyard-141683.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by Ann Coulter

[whynotnow7]

The current crop of Republicans have been brilliant through their use of the 
media, convincing many of us that the problem is one of money, that we don't 
have enough wealth in this great country to care for those who need it. 

Every time I hear one of those creeps talk about Social Security that I have 
paid into all of my working life as "an entitlement program", I feel like 
smacking them. How heartless and manipulative. Greedy bastards.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> As Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept tax 
> hikes "in return for (the Democrats) agreement to cut spending by $280 
> billion," but, Reagan continues, "the Democrats reneged on their pledge and 
> we never got those cuts." 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.anncoulter.com/
>

[FairfieldLife] Good article by Ann Coulter

[wgm4u]

As Reagan explains a little farther in his autobiography: He did accept tax 
hikes "in return for (the Democrats) agreement to cut spending by $280 
billion," but, Reagan continues, "the Democrats reneged on their pledge and we 
never got those cuts." 



http://www.anncoulter.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
wrote:
>
> On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:56 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wayback71@ wrote:
> >
> > > What is interesting for our subset is that we "got real" in
contrast to the TM inspired ideals and optimism of our 20's. A big shift
. And, I am still grateful for my TM days and my TM practice.
> >
> > I had so bought into those ideals. I too am grateful for the
experience. Also grateful that I stepped off, and went a more
traditional route. On the other hand, I see many that I knew during my
TM days, many who were smarter than me and who could have probably made
a big splash in the "real" world, but who stayed with the program, i.e.
living in Fairfield, probably scraping by somewhat. Is that such a bad
way to spend a lifetime?
>
> Well, "scraping by" doesn't sound too appealing.


Well,  you're right.  I have an anonyomous Facebook account and
periodically I check in and try to get an idea of how the friends I had
during my TM and Fairfield days are doing.  It lo0ks like many of them
are self employed, or employed by small businesses.  The impression I
get is that they are not rollling in the money, but seem generally
happy, and have a lifestyle they enjoy.

And that lifestyle in many ways seems better than what I see out here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor �Chemical� Linda Katehi

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> Looks like the police were provoked according to this protestor:
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/24/uc_davis_occupy_protester_admits_police_were_provoked_in_pepper_spray_incident.html

LOL. That's your idea of provocation?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Sal Sunshine]

On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:56 AM, seventhray1 wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>  
> > What is interesting for our subset is that we "got real" in contrast to the 
> > TM inspired ideals and optimism of our 20's. A big shift . And, I am still 
> > grateful for my TM days and my TM practice.
> 
> I had so bought into those ideals.  I too am grateful for the experience.  
> Also grateful that I stepped off, and went a more traditional route.  On the 
> other hand, I see many that I knew during my TM days, many who were smarter 
> than me and who could have probably made a big splash in the "real" world, 
> but who stayed with the program, i.e. living in Fairfield, probably scraping 
> by somewhat.  Is that such a bad way to spend a lifetime? 

Well, "scraping by" doesn't sound too appealing.

Sal 

[FairfieldLife] Turq, The Naked Man [was Re: Reincarnation Songs]

[whynotnow7]

The Naked Man struts about in his finery which he assumes everyone can see. He 
has many tricks up his invisible sleeve, to foist on and baffle those who are 
less great than he (Everyone). The Naked Man is constantly amazed at how 
intelligent he is, flamboyant in his peacock robes, deftly turning a phrase in 
front of his ever present mirror. 

When he secretly reads enough of his Enemies' postings, he slyly changes his 
tune, so brilliant is The Naked Man. After all, his hidden, secreted away, 
almost lost to consciousness but never to his shriveled heart, worries and 
fears and inadequacy are more than compensated for by his magnificent spun 
finery, HIS BOLD PRONOUNCEMENTS, transparently disguised as OPINIONS. 

He is simply more gloriously robed than the rest of us, The Naked Man, who 
whimpers silently alone, WHO HAS US ALL FOOLED, makes his singular speeches, 
all the while neurotically fingering the fine material of his many 
self-disguises. He hides everything from himself and yet on FFL, The Naked Man 
stands...uh, NAKED.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Here's a change of pace. Many of us here believe in 
> recincarnation. Many of these same people are into 
> music. Are there songs you love that, to you, suggest 
> that the songwriter captured in words and music 
> pretty much *exactly* what life in a past era would 
> have felt like, so much so that you suspect they might 
> have been there personally? Like, does the song for 
> you seem as if the artist is channeling a past 
> incarnation?
> 
> I can think of a few. One is Mark Knopfler's magnificent 
> "Madame Geneva." The POV of the narrator of the ballad 
> is remarkably the same as Mark's real-life POV; both sit 
> in gin mills from time to time and get paid to write 
> about what they see around them in the world. That said,
> I actually suspect that Mark may have been there in 
> Madame Geneva's on a hanging day, and is not so much 
> inventing it as remembering it in this song. But that 
> could be because I was probably sitting at the bar 
> with him.  :-)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QpALGgYiZI
> 
> I'm a maker of ballads right pretty
> I write them right here in the street
> You can buy them all over the city
> yours for a penny a sheet
> I'm a word pecker out of the printers
> out of the dens of Gin Lane
> I'll write up a scene on a counter
> - confessions and sins in the main, boys
> confessions and sins in the main
> 
> Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
> keeping the demons at bay
> There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
> but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day
> 
> They come rattling over the cobbles
> they sit on their coffins of black
> Some are struck dumb, some gabble
> top-heavy on brandy or sack
> The pews are all full of fine fellows
> and the hawker has set up her shop
> As they're turning them off at the gallows
> she'll be selling right under the drop, boys
> selling right under the drop
> 
> Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
> keeping the demons at bay
> There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
> but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation Songs

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1bHaUk1CM

Absolutely!


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Here's a change of pace. Many of us here believe in
> > recincarnation. Many of these same people are into
> > music. Are there songs you love that, to you, suggest
> > that the songwriter captured in words and music
> > pretty much *exactly* what life in a past era would
> > have felt like, so much so that you suspect they might
> > have been there personally? Like, does the song for
> > you seem as if the artist is channeling a past
> > incarnation?
> >
> > I can think of a few. One is Mark Knopfler's magnificent
> > "Madame Geneva." The POV of the narrator of the ballad
> > is remarkably the same as Mark's real-life POV; both sit
> > in gin mills from time to time and get paid to write
> > about what they see around them in the world. That said,
> > I actually suspect that Mark may have been there in
> > Madame Geneva's on a hanging day, and is not so much
> > inventing it as remembering it in this song. But that
> > could be because I was probably sitting at the bar
> > with him. :-)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QpALGgYiZI
> >
> > I'm a maker of ballads right pretty
> > I write them right here in the street
> > You can buy them all over the city
> > yours for a penny a sheet
> > I'm a word pecker out of the printers
> > out of the dens of Gin Lane
> > I'll write up a scene on a counter
> > - confessions and sins in the main, boys
> > confessions and sins in the main
> >
> > Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
> > keeping the demons at bay
> > There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
> > but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day
> >
> > They come rattling over the cobbles
> > they sit on their coffins of black
> > Some are struck dumb, some gabble
> > top-heavy on brandy or sack
> > The pews are all full of fine fellows
> > and the hawker has set up her shop
> > As they're turning them off at the gallows
> > she'll be selling right under the drop, boys
> > selling right under the drop
> >
> > Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
> > keeping the demons at bay
> > There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
> > but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:

> What is interesting for our subset is that we "got real" in contrast
to the TM inspired ideals and optimism of our 20's. A big shift . And, I
am still grateful for my TM days and my TM practice.


I had so bought into those ideals.  I too am grateful for the
experience.  Also grateful that I stepped off, and went a more
traditional route.  On the other hand, I see many that I knew during my
TM days, many who were smarter than me and who could have probably made
a big splash in the "real" world, but who stayed with the program, i.e.
living in Fairfield, probably scraping by somewhat.  Is that such a bad
way to spend a lifetime?

When I talk to them periodically, they all sound completely normal. 
They still joke, they still like to have the same kind of fun I do. 
They just chose a slightly different lifestyle.

[FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor �Chemical� Linda Katehi

[wgm4u]

Looks like the police were provoked according to this protestor:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/24/uc_davis_occupy_protester_admits_police_were_provoked_in_pepper_spray_incident.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> Judy, I was not calling your post into question, I just happened to run into 
> this article and posted it. Inferring motives concerning why a post is made 
> is something I tend to steer away from, since I do not know what a person is 
> thinking, and inductive inference is not logically sound. Among other things 
> I read was a comment that juries, when such trials go before a jury, often 
> decide in favour of the police. I used the term grey area because opposition 
> to entrenched powers which is happening in many places in the world as usual, 
> is often framed as an argument between morality and law in which some 
> perceive there is a discrepancy between the two and some do not. The current 
> case has not gone to court yet, if it goes to court at all. If decisions on 
> such cases flip flop up the court food chain, then the matter is not really 
> settled until the issue gets to the Supreme Court. Then the weight of 
> precedence tends to fix that fairly well, but things can change if there is 
> enough contrary pressure. That justices' decisions tend to clump based on 
> ideology is another reason that these issues are not fixed for all time. 
> Morality is an illusion of the mind, but it is a very practical and useful 
> illusion, and seems partly hard-wired into us, and seeing the world with the 
> absence of that illusion would not bode well for us as a species. In other 
> pepper spray news:
> 
> [this particular version of the story was at 
> http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/25/3285189/10-injured-at-la-wal-mart-on-black.html]
> 
> Woman pepper sprays other Black Friday shoppers
> 
> By ROBERT JABLON
> Associated Press
> 
> A woman trying to improve her chance to buy cheap electronics at a Walmart in 
> a wealthy suburb spewed pepper spray on a crowd of shoppers and 20 people 
> suffered minor injuries, police said Friday.
> 
> The attack took place about 10:20 p.m. Thursday shortly after doors opened 
> for the sale at the Walmart in Porter Ranch in the San Fernando Valley.
> 
> The store had brought out a crate of discounted Xbox video game players, and 
> a crowd had formed to wait for the unwrapping, when the woman began spraying 
> people "in order to get an advantage," police Sgt. Jose Valle said.
> 
> "Faces were red," shopper John Lopez told ABC News Radio. "This one guy was 
> coming up to my wife going, 'Call an ambulance! Call an ambulance!'"
> 
> Matthew Lopez, 18, told the Los Angeles Times he heard screaming and yelling.
> 
> "Moments later, my throat stung. I was coughing really bad and watering up," 
> he said.
> 
> In the aftermath, video showed dozens of shoppers milling around while 
> employees urge them to back up and make room.
> 
> It was the only major violence reported at a Southern California store 
> involving Black Friday Thanksgiving holiday sales.
> 
> Ten people were slightly injured by the pepper spray and 10 others suffered 
> minor bumps and bruises in the chaos, Valle said. They were treated at the 
> scene.
> 
> "People could have gotten trampled," he said. "Good thing there were no small 
> kids."
> 
> The woman got away in the confusion, but it was not immediately clear whether 
> she got an Xbox, Valle said.
> 
> "Walmart is going through register receipts to see if it was purchased," he 
> said.
> 
> The store remained open and those not affected by the pepper spray kept 
> shopping.
> 
> "This was an unfortunate situation. We're glad everyone seems to be OK," 
> Walmart said in a statement. "We're working with law enforcement to provide 
> what information we have, such as surveillance video, to assist in their 
> investigation."
> 
> The woman could face felony battery charges if she is found, Valle said.
> 
> --
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is one article on the use of pepper spray and the 
> > > somewhat grey area of its legality. 
> > 
> > It's not actually gray, it's been decided by a federal
> > appellate court, twice. (That is, with regard to the
> > illegality of its use on nonviolent protesters.)
> > 
> > The link I provided in the post you quote deals in
> > detail with the case Marquis cites. I guess you didn't
> > bother to look at it but went searching for an "experts
> > differ" story instead in order to call my post in
> > question.
> > 
> > BTW, it's considered good form to cite one's source for
> > something one reproduces verbatim, either with a
> > traditional citation or via a URL. A minute or two of
> > Googling shows that the original story was published on
> > the Web site of ABC's affiliate station in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation Songs

[seventhray1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1bHaUk1CM


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Here's a change of pace. Many of us here believe in
> recincarnation. Many of these same people are into
> music. Are there songs you love that, to you, suggest
> that the songwriter captured in words and music
> pretty much *exactly* what life in a past era would
> have felt like, so much so that you suspect they might
> have been there personally? Like, does the song for
> you seem as if the artist is channeling a past
> incarnation?
>
> I can think of a few. One is Mark Knopfler's magnificent
> "Madame Geneva." The POV of the narrator of the ballad
> is remarkably the same as Mark's real-life POV; both sit
> in gin mills from time to time and get paid to write
> about what they see around them in the world. That said,
> I actually suspect that Mark may have been there in
> Madame Geneva's on a hanging day, and is not so much
> inventing it as remembering it in this song. But that
> could be because I was probably sitting at the bar
> with him. :-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QpALGgYiZI
>
> I'm a maker of ballads right pretty
> I write them right here in the street
> You can buy them all over the city
> yours for a penny a sheet
> I'm a word pecker out of the printers
> out of the dens of Gin Lane
> I'll write up a scene on a counter
> - confessions and sins in the main, boys
> confessions and sins in the main
>
> Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
> keeping the demons at bay
> There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
> but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day
>
> They come rattling over the cobbles
> they sit on their coffins of black
> Some are struck dumb, some gabble
> top-heavy on brandy or sack
> The pews are all full of fine fellows
> and the hawker has set up her shop
> As they're turning them off at the gallows
> she'll be selling right under the drop, boys
> selling right under the drop
>
> Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
> keeping the demons at bay
> There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
> but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> 
> > But I have become much more a realist as I grow up and older. Until
> maybe 5 years ago I was a regular optimist. Now, much less optimistic,
> and not sure if that is part of getting older, or even some sort of mild
> depression, or just looking around at the situation on the planet today
> and going wtf.
> 
> I think you nailed it here.  At least for me.  The kind of strange thing
> is though, I am conveying this new (or newer) found attitude to my kids.

Yes, me too.  My 25 year old notes the new attitude in me, and in his peers.  
And I think he and his generation (or at least his friends) see that life 
expectations for their generation are very different than ours back in the 
70's.  Yep, humor helps a great deal -and so does keeping awareness on the 
present moment, walking outside, some regular gratitude thinking.  My 57 year 
old sister in law, who is ear to me, has a fatal illness and I am learning some 
lessons from her very rapid adjustment to her situation - she got wise.

What is interesting for our subset is that we "got real" in contrast to the TM 
inspired ideals and optimism of our 20's.  A big shift .  And, I am still 
grateful for my TM days and my TM practice.


> Or perhaps they see my mild cynicism and take note.  Or it may be that
> my wife is so practical that they take note of that too. But also,
> you've got to keep a sense of humor about things.  Otherwise you're
> sunk.
> 
> So, I am making a real effort not to look around so much, caue I am more
> effective if I do not get caught up in the awareness of so much that I
> am appalled by.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak takes Oprah to India

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> A Purusha guy told me yesterday that since visiting FF, Oprah has gone
to
> India with Deepak. That's all I know about.
>
Rick, are you sure?  Let's put our best people on this.  I want solid
intel 24/7.  Get Girish on the red line.  I want dhotis cleaned and
pressed.

[FairfieldLife] Reincarnation Songs

[turquoiseb]

Here's a change of pace. Many of us here believe in 
recincarnation. Many of these same people are into 
music. Are there songs you love that, to you, suggest 
that the songwriter captured in words and music 
pretty much *exactly* what life in a past era would 
have felt like, so much so that you suspect they might 
have been there personally? Like, does the song for 
you seem as if the artist is channeling a past 
incarnation?

I can think of a few. One is Mark Knopfler's magnificent 
"Madame Geneva." The POV of the narrator of the ballad 
is remarkably the same as Mark's real-life POV; both sit 
in gin mills from time to time and get paid to write 
about what they see around them in the world. That said,
I actually suspect that Mark may have been there in 
Madame Geneva's on a hanging day, and is not so much 
inventing it as remembering it in this song. But that 
could be because I was probably sitting at the bar 
with him.  :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QpALGgYiZI

I'm a maker of ballads right pretty
I write them right here in the street
You can buy them all over the city
yours for a penny a sheet
I'm a word pecker out of the printers
out of the dens of Gin Lane
I'll write up a scene on a counter
- confessions and sins in the main, boys
confessions and sins in the main

Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
keeping the demons at bay
There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day

They come rattling over the cobbles
they sit on their coffins of black
Some are struck dumb, some gabble
top-heavy on brandy or sack
The pews are all full of fine fellows
and the hawker has set up her shop
As they're turning them off at the gallows
she'll be selling right under the drop, boys
selling right under the drop

Then you'll find me in Madame Geneva's
keeping the demons at bay
There's nothing like gin for drowning them in
but they'll always be back on a hanging day, on a hanging day 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> But don't ask me to pretend that they are any big deal,
> or that they are anything other than a scam that worked
> so well that thousands of people and hundreds of thousands
> of dollars and 35 years later, people are *still* unable
> to describe what they paid thousands of dollars for 
> accurately. They're still hiding behind "what we learn
> in private we keep private." In my honest opinion, they
> are doing this to keep other people who *didn't* pay
> thousands of dollars for four bucks' worth of English
> from realizing that they did, and thus considering them
> the doofuses they were.

Seriously, if you didn't get lengthy, detailed instruction
in how to use the sutras, you got cheated. And that could
well be why you didn't get much from the practice.

> Me, I'm comfortable with having been a doofus. I realized
> it the first day, and was able to laugh at myself then.

But you say you kept at it for several months rather than
quitting as soon as you realized you were a doofus. I'd
say that makes you a meta-doofus.

(Either that, or you're lying about how long it took you.
I'm betting on the latter.)

[FairfieldLife] Deepak takes Oprah to India

[Rick Archer]

A Purusha guy told me yesterday that since visiting FF, Oprah has gone to
India with Deepak. That's all I know about.

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[whynotnow7]

"It's the same old Barry. You can always count on him to put the turd in the 
paper bag on the front porch then run away.  I don't know why he can't figure 
out something better to do with his time."

I do. He's lonely and needs the interaction on this forum MUCH MORE than it 
needs him. I watched him try a few "nice" posts this past week, after he had 
been exposed as someone with no social skills, AGAIN. 

His "nice" stuff is insipid, boring, uncreative and weak. So he dons his 
comfortable persona of antagonist and asshole and VIOLA - ATTENTION! Barry is 
like a whore who will pay you to have sex with him - basically ANYTHING for a 
response. He must feel quite lonely sometimes. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > > He pushed your buttons! He pushed your buttons!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Right, and I pushed yours.
> > >
> > Actually, you didn't.  But  Barry did.  It always strikes me as odd that
> > Barry can rarely make a point without some kind of cutting remark.  Most
> > of the time I don't respond, but occassionally, I feel the need to make
> > a reply.  Is this what his participation has turned into?  I mean apart
> > from TV and movie reviews.
> >
> 
> It's the same old Barry. You can always count on him to put the turd in the 
> paper bag on the front porch then run away.  I don't know why he can't figure 
> out something better to do with his time. Once in awhile Judy asks him how 
> his book on the Cathars is coming along, but he never seems to get back to 
> her about it...funny that.
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:46 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Rick should do.

 

  

Here we got our good-guy Rick interviewing all the souls out there that
claim some sort of spiritual authenticity, and what made it all possible for
Rick?

FairFieldLife did.

I say, Rick should amass a list of everyone who was ever a member, and, in
chronological order, interview each and all in some manner.

That would be scientific, right? Gotta have all the data.

Edg

Seeing as how there are 1427 members, and I only do one interview a week,
that should keep me busy for the next 27 years. I'll get right on it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
> > >> steve.sundur@ wrote:
> > > > He pushed your buttons! He pushed your buttons!
> > >
> > > Right, and I pushed yours.
> > 
> > Actually, you didn't. But  Barry did. It always strikes me as odd 
> > that Barry can rarely make a point without some kind of cutting 
> > remark. Most of the time I don't respond, but occassionally, I 
> > feel the need to make a reply. Is this what his participation 
> > has turned into?  
> 
> Absolutely. Look at who I'm dealing with. :-)
> 
> People who still, 20 or more years later, can't admit 
> to themselves that they paid thousands of dollars for
> a bunch of phrases *in English* that they could have
> gotten -- VERBATIM -- from a $3.95 paperback edition
> of the Yoga Sutras. That is what the "TM Sidhi program"
> really IS.

They must have left a lot out of your TM-Sidhis course.

> Or people who, taken in by the latest media hype behind
> the latest media-hyped, scantily-clad singer, have so
> little discrimination left that they really can't tell
> that she's not all that good. 
> 
> Ya gotta find ways to laugh at this shit, or it's too
> sad to contemplate. I choose to laugh, and see whether
> there is anyone out there who can laugh along. If not,
> no problem. 
> 
> Bottom line is that if your buttons get pushed by 
> something I say, they're still YOUR buttons, not mine.
> That means that they're YOUR attachments, not mine. I
> am merely pointing them out.

And YOU'RE attached to trying to push buttons.

We've all got attachments. You're just far more interested
in putting other people down for theirs than in examining
your own.

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:

> > Looking back, I can see the concrete benefits from having 
> > done the basic TM technique; I can't say the same for the 
> > TM-Sidhis.
> 
> Yup. I have no problem with those who had a different
> experience.

Except that you believe they have "bad taste and low
standards," of course.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I found this article.  kind of entertaining to read.
> > 
> > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/optimism-science-study-shows-optimists-block-out-information.html
> 
> Fascinating. Thanks for the find, and for posting
> it here. It explains a great deal about True
> Believerism and cult apologetics, and well, about
> pretty much everything. 
> 
> I just loved the phrase, "frontal lobes going on 
> strike in the face of unwelcome information." 
> That just nails it. Did you notice, for example,
> that no one else followed up on your post but me? 
> Says a lot, doesn't it.  :-)

Have you noticed that Barry almost never follows up
on posts that criticize him?

And it's not just that his frontal lobes go on strike
in the face of the unwelcome information. He actively
avoids even reading it.

Not only that, notice that he didn't comment on this
example of unrealistic optimism given in the first
paragraph of the article, a person he has stoutly
supported while bashing the person's critics:

"The politician who keeps compromising even though his
opponents roll him every time. It's called unrealistic
optimism. (President Obama, whose base sometimes cringes
at his readiness to compromise with opponents, is on
record as an 'eternal optimist.')"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:

> But I have become much more a realist as I grow up and older. Until
maybe 5 years ago I was a regular optimist. Now, much less optimistic,
and not sure if that is part of getting older, or even some sort of mild
depression, or just looking around at the situation on the planet today
and going wtf.

I think you nailed it here.  At least for me.  The kind of strange thing
is though, I am conveying this new (or newer) found attitude to my kids.
Or perhaps they see my mild cynicism and take note.  Or it may be that
my wife is so practical that they take note of that too. But also,
you've got to keep a sense of humor about things.  Otherwise you're
sunk.

So, I am making a real effort not to look around so much, caue I am more
effective if I do not get caught up in the awareness of so much that I
am appalled by.

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> Bottom line is that if your buttons get pushed by
> something I say, they're still YOUR buttons, not mine.
> That means that they're YOUR attachments, not mine. I
> am merely pointing them out.
>
Ok

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
wrote:
>
> I found it fascinating too, but I think there's another side to the coin.  
> I'm sure if there are parts of the brain that are inactive when an optimist 
> recieves criticism, then i'm sure there are parts of the brain that are 
> inactive when a pessimist recieves some sort of positive inspiration.
> 
> I just finished a class in information analyses, and they taught us how to 
> organize groups of people for brainstorming sessions.  You have to seperate 
> your 'creative' thinkers from your 'analytic' thinkers.  Otherwise every idea 
> the creative thinkers come up with will get shot down immediately.  But at 
> the same time, you have to take the end result of the creative thinkers ideas 
> and present it to the analytic thinkers for a reality check.  In general, 
> about 80-90% of the ideas will be destroyed.  but the 10-20% that makes it is 
> usually where the most significant changes and development comes from.  
> Without the creative thinkers, the development would never occur.  Without 
> the pessimists, the 80% of ideas that were worthless would've sucked the life 
> out of everyone trying to support the plan. 
> 
> I guess in other words we could say that pessimists/optimists are no 
> different than left/right brain people.  Both a part of the same whole.  But 
> most people don't realize that, and that's where we come up with terms like 
> "hippie" or "asshole", (optimist/pessimist respectively), each trying to get 
> everything to revolve around their point of view instead of knowing their 
> place and seeing it for what it is.  
> 
> seekliberation

Room for both types, and both needed.  I guess Nature/Evolution often knows 
what she is doing.  I still have some difficulty applying this benificent idea 
to the Tea Party, but  they must serve some evolutionary purpose, 
somehow..!
> 
> 
> 
> > Fascinating. Thanks for the find, and for posting
> > it here. It explains a great deal about True
> > Believerism and cult apologetics, and well, about
> > pretty much everything. 
> > 
> > I just loved the phrase, "frontal lobes going on 
> > strike in the face of unwelcome information." 
> > That just nails it. Did you notice, for example,
> > that no one else followed up on your post but me? 
> > Says a lot, doesn't it.  :-)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[seekliberation]

I found it fascinating too, but I think there's another side to the coin.  I'm 
sure if there are parts of the brain that are inactive when an optimist 
recieves criticism, then i'm sure there are parts of the brain that are 
inactive when a pessimist recieves some sort of positive inspiration.

I just finished a class in information analyses, and they taught us how to 
organize groups of people for brainstorming sessions.  You have to seperate 
your 'creative' thinkers from your 'analytic' thinkers.  Otherwise every idea 
the creative thinkers come up with will get shot down immediately.  But at the 
same time, you have to take the end result of the creative thinkers ideas and 
present it to the analytic thinkers for a reality check.  In general, about 
80-90% of the ideas will be destroyed.  but the 10-20% that makes it is usually 
where the most significant changes and development comes from.  Without the 
creative thinkers, the development would never occur.  Without the pessimists, 
the 80% of ideas that were worthless would've sucked the life out of everyone 
trying to support the plan. 

I guess in other words we could say that pessimists/optimists are no different 
than left/right brain people.  Both a part of the same whole.  But most people 
don't realize that, and that's where we come up with terms like "hippie" or 
"asshole", (optimist/pessimist respectively), each trying to get everything to 
revolve around their point of view instead of knowing their place and seeing it 
for what it is.  

seekliberation



> Fascinating. Thanks for the find, and for posting
> it here. It explains a great deal about True
> Believerism and cult apologetics, and well, about
> pretty much everything. 
> 
> I just loved the phrase, "frontal lobes going on 
> strike in the face of unwelcome information." 
> That just nails it. Did you notice, for example,
> that no one else followed up on your post but me? 
> Says a lot, doesn't it.  :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[Susan]

Very interesting article.  I wonder if you are born this way or modify your 
brain circuits when growing up.  
I feel I was overly optimitstic as a child and young adult (early 20's) and 
part of this in my 20's was my TM bias that TM'ers were rarely going to face 
the "bad things" that non-meditators did in life.  Yes, I kind of believed 
that, but not the way a TB would. 

But I have become much more a realist as I grow up and older.  Until maybe 5 
years ago I was a regular optimist.  Now, much less optimistic, and not sure if 
that is part of getting older, or even some sort of mild depression, or just 
looking around at the situation on the planet today and going wtf.  So, I am 
making a real effort not to look around so much, caue I am more effective if I 
do not get caught up in the awareness of so much that I am appalled by.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I found this article.  kind of entertaining to read.
> > 
> > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/optimism-science-study-shows-optimists-block-out-information.html
> 
> Fascinating. Thanks for the find, and for posting
> it here. It explains a great deal about True
> Believerism and cult apologetics, and well, about
> pretty much everything. 
> 
> I just loved the phrase, "frontal lobes going on 
> strike in the face of unwelcome information." 
> That just nails it. Did you notice, for example,
> that no one else followed up on your post but me? 
> Says a lot, doesn't it.  :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > The "flying" was from my point of view nothing more
> > than a tiny burst of kundalini parsed through a bunch of
> > suggestions and moodmaking. I never felt it to be any more
> > than that, or any more "enlightening" or valuable than that.
> 
> I was one of the few people who didn't lift off during the 
> flying block. It was only after a month of not making myself 
> a Hell-bound, hairy-palmed blind man that I finally "flew". 

LOL. Suffice it to say this was not my experience. 
Not only was I non-averse to whacking off, I had a
ladyfriend in town whom I would occasionally sneak
out to see. Still flew the first day. Go figure.

> So, I would also conclude that YFing is some sort of kundalini 
> manipulation technique. 

I'm not really sure *what* it was. I don't think 
that the actual technique does much of anything, so
for me it's a matter of figuring out what the other
factors -- suggestion, expectation, group pressure,
etc. -- might have been. All I know is that I don't
miss it.

> Looking back, I can see the concrete benefits from having 
> done the basic TM technique; I can't say the same for the 
> TM-Sidhis.

Yup. I have no problem with those who had a different
experience. It's just that I was ready to give it up
a month into the whole thing, and it only took me a
few months following my return to the US to actually do 
it. And I have no regrets about that; I get higher
from my current daily meditation than I ever did from
the TM-Sidhis, and I don't have to spend several hours
of my day doing it...or show a badge to do it.

I guess it all comes down to "different strokes for
different folks."

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield exodus (was Re: "Occupy the Domes!!")

[Susan]

sorry to hear this, Buck.  I know you would like to be a devoted Dome-attender. 
 What exactly did you do and see to put you in the anti-saint category?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Well, it is official now.  My application for a current dome badge was 
> rejected this last week.  After considered probing and a deliberation it is 
> left now that I am welcome, 'except' for the anti-saint guideline. The 
> anti-saint guideline is very much unchanged and administratively enforced as 
> such without exception.  From on high,  so it is.
>   
> 
> > >
> > > No, the guidelines are very much un-changed.  Maybe in Europe you have a 
> > > more liberal interpretation of what is there in the guidelines to 
> > > accommodate people seeing saints.  However, if you came or moved to 
> > > Fairfield you'd not be able to get a valid dome badge as the guidelines 
> > > are written.  They still keep people out for sitting with saints. I just 
> > > was read through the guidelines in re-applying for the dome meditation.  
> > >
> > >The guidelines are still very much un-changed and anti-saint.  The 
> > >>guidelines are a communal obstacle for gathering dome numbers.  
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes, practically the saint issue needs to be 'de-linked' from getting a 
> > current dome meditation badge.  That is on the hands of the Rajas.
> >  
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The thing now that is too bad is that the TM-Rajas continue to 
> > > > > > > choose to link it this way as punishment.  As a whip it just 
> > > > > > > makes for bad blood using the domes as punishment that has left a 
> > > > > > > long bad stain with people here.  It's a challenge for the 
> > > > > > > numbers.  It eats at the margins to the point where it is pretty 
> > > > > > > small inside now.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 2000 souls is hardly "pretty small"
> > > > > > Anyway, didn't you see the poster in the Domes recently which said 
> > > > > > the TMO will admit anyone into the Domes who've seen saints as long 
> > > > > > as they don't work for them ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, the old guideline is still there.  They have stiffened it with 
> > > > > the language about working or organizing for saints.  They kicked 
> > > > > people out last week over having seen saints.  There is a lot of 
> > > > > language about Governors visiting saints in the guidelines. It is 
> > > > > still there.  It is quite conservative.  Still.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If they were kicked out they must have been organizing tours for the 
> > > > so-called saints. Just seeing saints is no longer an issue.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > No, the guidelines are very much un-changed.  Maybe in Europe you have a 
> > > more liberal interpretation of what is there in the guidelines to 
> > > accommodate people seeing saints.  However, if you came or moved to 
> > > Fairfield you'd not be able to get a valid dome badge as the guidelines 
> > > are written.  They still keep people out for sitting with saints.  I just 
> > > was read through the guidelines in re-applying for the dome meditation.  
> > > 
> > > The guidelines are still very much un-changed and anti-saint.  The 
> > > guidelines are a communcal obstacle for gathering dome numbers.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> The "flying" was from my point of view nothing more
> than a tiny burst of kundalini parsed through a bunch of
> suggestions and moodmaking. I never felt it to be any more
> than that, or any more "enlightening" or valuable than that.
> 

I was one of the few people who didn't lift off during the flying block. It was 
only after a month of not making myself a Hell-bound, hairy-palmed blind man 
that I finally "flew". So, I would also conclude that YFing is some sort of 
kundalini manipulation technique. Looking back, I can see the concrete benefits 
from having done the basic TM technique; I can't say the same for the TM-Sidhis.

[FairfieldLife] Address Is Approximate

[turquoiseb]

A very sweet short (2:54 minute) film about a stuck-
at-home toy traveling the world via Google Street View:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCvX2N-RoEg

[FairfieldLife] 60-Second Adventures In Thought

[turquoiseb]

One-minute animated explanations of six of philosophy
and science's biggest mindtwisters, from Open University:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/26/60-second-adventures-in-thought-david-mitchell-open-university_n_1113993.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Then one hot day when fields were rank
> With cowdung in the grass the angry frogs
> Invaded the flax-dam: I ducked through the hedges
> To a coarse croaking that I had not heard
> Before. The air was thick with a bass chorus.
> Right down the damn gross-bellied frogs were cocked
> On sods; their loose necks pulsed like sails. Some hopped:
> The slap and plop were obscene threats. Some sat
> Poised like mud grenades, their blunt heads farting.
> I sickened, turned, and ran. The great slime kings
> Were gathered there for vengeance and I knew
> That if I dipped my hand the spawn would clutch it.
> 
> Seamus Heaney
> 

Mud Grenades: FF Life's weapon of choice. Terrific poem. Thanks for posting and 
s apropos Barry.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:11 AM, raunchydog wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Robin, if you're out there. I made a video of Lady Gaga's 
> > > > HBO Monster Ball special just for you. This is the one 
> > > > where she climbs on the piano and plays the guitar with 
> > > > her foot. Wild Woman! Enjoy.
> > > > http://youtu.be/W7d1dDgRCuA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you knew Robin like I knew Robin!
> > > 
> > > His original fanboy crush was on Michael Jackson when I met 
> > > him. Said he was an 'angel on earth' [rough paraphrase]. 
> > > I guess it's normal for these types of angels to enter 
> > > parinirvana via overdoses of Propofol. It's likely some 
> > > esoteric Catholic doctrine I'm not privy to...
> > > 
> > > Apparently Gaga is a reincarnated Monte Cassino casualty 
> > > or somethin'? I dunno - but I always considered Tony a great 
> > > Dzogchenpo benefactor.
> > 
> > 
> > I thought it was just "Drama queen likes drama queen." :-)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra  wrote:
>
> Of a green evening, clear and warm,
> She bathed in her still garden, while
> The red-eyed elders watching, felt
> 
> The basses of their beings throb
> In witching chords, and their thin blood
> Pulse pizzicati of Hosanna.
> 
> Wallace Stevens
> 
> 

Robin, I just loved the musicality of the phrase "Pulse pizzicati of Hosanna" 
but hadn't a clue about "pizzicati." Goodness, is there anything Wikipedia 
doesn't know? Perhaps the poem expresses a similar reference I made about Vaj 
in his Wanker theme song http://youtu.be/nkqfa-kaRFM but tip of the hat for 
finding a more refined way of saying Barry is a wanker. They're two of a kind, 
which as most everyone knows, isn't the best hand to play with.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Quince_at_the_Clavier> 

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I found this article.  kind of entertaining to read.
> > > 
> > > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/optimism-science-study-shows-optimists-block-out-information.html
> > 
> > Fascinating. Thanks for the find, and for posting
> > it here. It explains a great deal about True
> > Believerism and cult apologetics, and well, about
> > pretty much everything. 
> > 
> > I just loved the phrase, "frontal lobes going on 
> > strike in the face of unwelcome information." 
> > That just nails it. Did you notice, for example,
> > that no one else followed up on your post but me? 
> > Says a lot, doesn't it.  :-)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] One magazine, one week, four editions, four audiences, four covers

[turquoiseb]

Kinda says it all.

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Levitation Vs. Flying

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Robert  wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't understand why Maharishi never demonstrated it in 
> > > public, or even in private. 
> 
> He did, you just didn't pay attention. He was seen gliding 
> up stairs many times, his now famous sandals not touching 
> the ground. There is also an unpublished video from his 
> room in Seelisberg where he comes down on his sofa from 
> above just before a lecture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ2Oj13ElSM

Word on the street is that the kid's Nikes
are going up for auction alongside Maharishi's
sandals. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Levitation Vs. Flying

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Robert  wrote:
> 
> > BTW, if you go through the third chapter of 'Patanjali's Yoga Sutras',
> >
> 
> You will find that there is one sutra for 'flying' and another sutra for
> > levitation...
> > The sutra he gave out was for flying and not levitation.
> > I don't think Patanjali would have discriminated between 'flying' and
> > levitation if there was no difference.
> >
> > The sutra for levitation has to do with the 'Mastering of Prana' in the
> > throat, and loosening from the grip of the feeling of being stuck in a
> > swamp, thorns and mud.
> >
> > Look in the Yoga Sutras and you will find it...
> >
> > Maharishi experimented with various techniques and yoga sutras on the 'Six
> > Month Courses', and was getting feed-back from the participants before
> > formulated and structuring the the TM-Sutra Program...
> >
> > He seemed to want to simplify the practice for the masses, but there is
> > much more to be gained by the yoga sutras if you investigate the whole
> > thing.
> >
> >
> > I don't understand why Maharishi never demonstrated it in public, or even
> in private. 


He did, you just didn't pay attention. He was seen gliding up stairs many 
times, his now famous sandals not touching the ground. There is also an 
unpublished video from his room in Seelisberg where he comes down on his sofa 
from above just before a lecture.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uselessness of the TM Sidhis technique for levitation

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:


> Theme song for Vaj:
http://youtu.be/nkqfa-kaRFM


HeHe, good one ! :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[maskedzebra]

Of a green evening, clear and warm,
She bathed in her still garden, while
The red-eyed elders watching, felt

The basses of their beings throb
In witching chords, and their thin blood
Pulse pizzicati of Hosanna.

Wallace Stevens



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I found this article.  kind of entertaining to read.
> > 
> > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/optimism-science-study-shows-optimists-block-out-information.html
> 
> Fascinating. Thanks for the find, and for posting
> it here. It explains a great deal about True
> Believerism and cult apologetics, and well, about
> pretty much everything. 
> 
> I just loved the phrase, "frontal lobes going on 
> strike in the face of unwelcome information." 
> That just nails it. Did you notice, for example,
> that no one else followed up on your post but me? 
> Says a lot, doesn't it.  :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[maskedzebra]

WHEN THE MOON

When the moon rises and women in flowery dresses are strolling,
I am struck by their eyes, eyelashes, and the whole arrangement of the world.
It seems to me that from such a strong mutual attraction
The ultimate truth should issue at last.

Czeslaw Milosz

   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > He pushed your buttons! He pushed your buttons!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, and I pushed yours.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, you didn't. But  Barry did. It always strikes me as odd 
> > > > that Barry can rarely make a point without some kind of cutting 
> > > > remark. Most of the time I don't respond, but occassionally, I 
> > > > feel the need to make a reply. Is this what his participation 
> > > > has turned into?  
> > > 
> > > Absolutely. Look at who I'm dealing with. :-)
> > > 
> > > People who still, 20 or more years later, can't admit 
> > > to themselves that they paid thousands of dollars for
> > > a bunch of phrases *in English* that they could have
> > > gotten -- VERBATIM -- from a $3.95 paperback edition
> > > of the Yoga Sutras. That is what the "TM Sidhi program"
> > > really IS.
> > 
> > Taimni's English translation of the suutra what I think number
> > 12 in my set is based on, has almost 30 words (articles
> > not counted as separate words), whereas my Finnish
> > "practical" version of that suutra has only five words.
> > 
> > The original Sanskrit suutra, which I think is this one:
> > 
> > sattva-puruSayor atyanta+asaMkiirNayoH pratyaya+avisheSo
> > bhogaH para+arthaat sva+artha-saMyamaat puruSa-jñaanam.
> > 
> > ... has something like 14 words, counting the components
> > of compound words as individual words.
> 
> Whatever. I just remember being on a course in Switzerland,
> having paid several thousand dollars for it, being taught 
> my TM-Sidhis by a 20-dollar cassette recorder hooked up
> to a series of 2 dollar earphones, and walking upstairs, 
> to find that everything I had just been taught was there
> in the $3.95 paperback of the Yoga Sutras I'd brought with
> me. Only a couple of words were in any way different.
> 
> At that point I laughed out loud, because I realized I'd
> been had. I realized that even though I "flew" the first
> day. The "flying" was from my point of view nothing more
> than a tiny burst of kundalini parsed through a bunch of
> suggestions and moodmaking. I never felt it to be any more
> than that, or any more "enlightening" or valuable than that.
> 
> So shoot me. You can have a different opinion of the TM
> Sidhis if you'd like. Some people seem to have really
> gotten off on them. Then again, some people get off on
> Lady Gaga and on Bad Writing. There is simply no account-
> ing for bad taste and low standards. :-)
> 
> But don't ask me to pretend that they are any big deal,
> or that they are anything other than a scam that worked
> so well that thousands of people and hundreds of thousands
> of dollars and 35 years later, people are *still* unable
> to describe what they paid thousands of dollars for 
> accurately. They're still hiding behind "what we learn
> in private we keep private." In my honest opinion, they
> are doing this to keep other people who *didn't* pay
> thousands of dollars for four bucks' worth of English
> from realizing that they did, and thus considering them
> the doofuses they were.
> 
> Me, I'm comfortable with having been a doofus. I realized
> it the first day, and was able to laugh at myself then.
> I still am today.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are Optimists Dumber? (actual article)

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
wrote:
>
> I found this article.  kind of entertaining to read.
> 
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/optimism-science-study-shows-optimists-block-out-information.html

Fascinating. Thanks for the find, and for posting
it here. It explains a great deal about True
Believerism and cult apologetics, and well, about
pretty much everything. 

I just loved the phrase, "frontal lobes going on 
strike in the face of unwelcome information." 
That just nails it. Did you notice, for example,
that no one else followed up on your post but me? 
Says a lot, doesn't it.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > > > He pushed your buttons! He pushed your buttons!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Right, and I pushed yours.
> > > 
> > > Actually, you didn't. But  Barry did. It always strikes me as odd 
> > > that Barry can rarely make a point without some kind of cutting 
> > > remark. Most of the time I don't respond, but occassionally, I 
> > > feel the need to make a reply. Is this what his participation 
> > > has turned into?  
> > 
> > Absolutely. Look at who I'm dealing with. :-)
> > 
> > People who still, 20 or more years later, can't admit 
> > to themselves that they paid thousands of dollars for
> > a bunch of phrases *in English* that they could have
> > gotten -- VERBATIM -- from a $3.95 paperback edition
> > of the Yoga Sutras. That is what the "TM Sidhi program"
> > really IS.
> 
> Taimni's English translation of the suutra what I think number
> 12 in my set is based on, has almost 30 words (articles
> not counted as separate words), whereas my Finnish
> "practical" version of that suutra has only five words.
> 
> The original Sanskrit suutra, which I think is this one:
> 
> sattva-puruSayor atyanta+asaMkiirNayoH pratyaya+avisheSo
> bhogaH para+arthaat sva+artha-saMyamaat puruSa-jñaanam.
> 
> ... has something like 14 words, counting the components
> of compound words as individual words.

Whatever. I just remember being on a course in Switzerland,
having paid several thousand dollars for it, being taught 
my TM-Sidhis by a 20-dollar cassette recorder hooked up
to a series of 2 dollar earphones, and walking upstairs, 
to find that everything I had just been taught was there
in the $3.95 paperback of the Yoga Sutras I'd brought with
me. Only a couple of words were in any way different.

At that point I laughed out loud, because I realized I'd
been had. I realized that even though I "flew" the first
day. The "flying" was from my point of view nothing more
than a tiny burst of kundalini parsed through a bunch of
suggestions and moodmaking. I never felt it to be any more
than that, or any more "enlightening" or valuable than that.

So shoot me. You can have a different opinion of the TM
Sidhis if you'd like. Some people seem to have really
gotten off on them. Then again, some people get off on
Lady Gaga and on Bad Writing. There is simply no account-
ing for bad taste and low standards. :-)

But don't ask me to pretend that they are any big deal,
or that they are anything other than a scam that worked
so well that thousands of people and hundreds of thousands
of dollars and 35 years later, people are *still* unable
to describe what they paid thousands of dollars for 
accurately. They're still hiding behind "what we learn
in private we keep private." In my honest opinion, they
are doing this to keep other people who *didn't* pay
thousands of dollars for four bucks' worth of English
from realizing that they did, and thus considering them
the doofuses they were.

Me, I'm comfortable with having been a doofus. I realized
it the first day, and was able to laugh at myself then.
I still am today. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> > wrote:
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > > > He pushed your buttons! He pushed your buttons!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Right, and I pushed yours.
> > 
> > Actually, you didn't. But  Barry did. It always strikes me as odd 
> > that Barry can rarely make a point without some kind of cutting 
> > remark. Most of the time I don't respond, but occassionally, I 
> > feel the need to make a reply. Is this what his participation 
> > has turned into?  
> 
> Absolutely. Look at who I'm dealing with. :-)
> 
> People who still, 20 or more years later, can't admit 
> to themselves that they paid thousands of dollars for
> a bunch of phrases *in English* that they could have
> gotten -- VERBATIM -- from a $3.95 paperback edition
> of the Yoga Sutras. That is what the "TM Sidhi program"
> really IS.
> 

Taimni's English translation of the suutra what I think number
12 in my set is based on, has almost 30 words (articles
not counted as separate words), whereas my Finnish
"practical" version of that suutra has only five words.

The original Sanskrit suutra, which I think is this one:

sattva-puruSayor atyanta+asaMkiirNayoH pratyaya+avisheSo
bhogaH para+arthaat sva+artha-saMyamaat puruSa-jñaanam.

... has something like 14 words, counting the components
of compound words as individual words.

[FairfieldLife] Movie mini-review: "Albert Nobbs"

[turquoiseb]

Speaking of drama queens, I watched an Academy screener
of a new movie last night, and interestingly enough, even
though it's a movie about...uh...cross-dressing, there are
no drama queens in it. Instead it's a masterpiece of under-
statement, concentrating on telling a sad and poignant 
story well...extra compassion, hold the histrionics.
Which again is interesting because I predict that two of
the actors in it will be nominated for Academy Awards for
their performances -- Glenn Close and Janet McTeer. 

It's really Glenn Close's movie. She co-wrote the screen-
play, based on a novella about life in 19th-century Dublin
written by George Moore. As you can tell from the trailer
below, Close plays the eponymous title character. Albert 
Nobbs has been a waiter -- and a good one -- for 20 years.
He has been one ever since the day that, an orphan trapped 
on the 99% streets of Dublin and subjected to all of the
indignities and horrors that a 14-year-old woman was subject
to in those times, she put on men's clothing and found that
instantly she was able to make a living. As a woman she 
was not. Done deal.

But now Albert lives in a prison of his/her own making. He
has been carefully saving his tips all this time, and hopes
someday to open a tobacconist shop and live like other 
people, but it's a harsh world, and that may or may not 
happen. 

The direction by Rodrigo Garcia (who produced and directed
the marvelous "In Treatment" series on TV) is spot-on. No
histrionics, no going for the cheap shot or the easy pathos,
just a compassionate look at a group of ordinary people 
trying to get by in tough times, as best they can. There is
no condemnation or judgment in the film, either of women 
pretending to be men, or men pretending to be men. (One of
the frequent guests at the hotel is a young lord who shows
up with his male friend and two beautiful women, and then
they retire upstairs to adjoining rooms. Once the doors are
closed, the two men retire to their bed, and the two women
to theirs. It's a fascinating counterpoint to Albert's pose
as a woman.)

*Tremendous* performances throughout, not just by the two
women mentioned earlier, but by Brendan Gleeson, Jonathan 
Rhys Meyers, Mia Wasikowska, Maria Doyle Kennedy, Brenda 
Fricker, and others. But like all "period piece" movies, 
this one depends as much on the character of the setting 
as it does the characters portrayed by the actors, and 
Garcia again gets it spot-on. 

In terms of "feel good" quality, well, it'll either have
it or not, depending on how you feel about Dickens. It's
not, after all, as if "A Christmas Carol" was light and
fluffy. But it had moments of high humor and wonderful
compassion mixed in with the pathos and suffering of the
times, and so does this movie. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ini59bYhaUY

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Fanboy Robin

[maskedzebra]

In Cuba, the moon was shining as before the Revolution, the sun was the same 
sun: nature lent everything its eponymous beauty. Geography was alive, but 
history had died.

Cuba now was not Cuba. It was another thing—the double in the mirror, its 
*doppelganger*, a living robot from which an accident by its maker had provoked 
a mutation, a genetic change, a switch of chromosomes. Nothing was in its 
place. The features were recognizable, but even in Havana the buildings showed 
a new leprosy. The streets were covered with a visible viscose, oil dripping 
from the motors of the scarce vehicles because of an unsurmountable fault in 
refining Russian petroleum, foul fuel in the tropics, In its blackish 
stickiness women left their shoes (prehistoric artefacts that some 
entrepreneurs rented at fifty cents an hour!) in their tracks. It was the 
metaphor of a moral viscosity.

The Malecon was decayed, ruinous. In the flower beds of El Vedado, before an 
elegant suburb, bananas were growing instead of roses, in a desperate effort by 
the residents to supplement their rations with their stunted fruit. The coffee 
stands that used to make coffee before the customers on every corner, as in Rio 
de Janeiro, had vanished by the art of Marxist magic. In their place there were 
two, at most three stands, to a district that served coffee to avid clusters of 
clients, and only at certain hours of the day, when they weren't in long lines 
to buy the coffee that the ration book promises but never delivers. . .

The store windows *really* showed off clothes, because no one could buy them, 
since they were *unique* samples—in the best cases. In others, the shop windows 
served to enclose Marxian or Leninist allegories, more as decoration than from 
political fervour. But most of the windows were totally empty, and walking 
along San Rafael or Neptuno, Obispo or O'Reilly (Cuban versions of Fifth 
Avenue) was as unreal as talking with John Wayne around the main street of a 
ghost town. . .

In an incredible Hegelian capriole, Cuba had taken a great leap *forward*—but 
had fallen *backward*. Now in the poor clothes of the people, in the bastard 
automobiles (except of course, the official limousines or the swift late-model 
Mercedes in the motorcade of the Premier), in the famished faces, it was seen 
that we *were* underdevelopment. In theory, socialism nationalizes wealth. In 
Cuba, by a strange perversion of the practice, they had socialized poverty.

Guillermo Cabrera Infante "Mea Cuba"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Link works, but I remain completely baffled by the whole 
> > > > Lady Gaga phenomenon. To me, that was just a half-naked 
> > > > woman screaming into a microphone while other musicians 
> > > > play random noises.
> > > 
> > > Thank you for this, Alex. I was beginning to fear
> > > that standards here had reached a new low. People 
> > > are such suckers for a little cheap flash.
> > 
> > I'm more a sucker for a good dance beat and a catchy 
> > melody. 
> 
> Exactly. I have nothing against Lady Gaga per se,
> but if I had ever heard a single song of hers on
> the radio, with no "special visual effects," I 
> would never have paid the least bit of attention
> to it. Modern-day elevator music. 
> 
> I don't blame her for this; I blame MTV. They took
> the music out of the music industry by relating it
> in most people's minds with the visuals. Either a
> band or a singer dancing around and acting like
> drama queens onstage or a series of non-related 
> visual images chosen for their impact, and rarely
> a thought to the music itself. 
> 
> W.r.t. Lady Gaga, I just don't think there is all 
> that much there there. Take away the visuals and 
> leave only the music and I've heard better singers
> at Holiday Inns. Sorry, but it's true.
>