[FairfieldLife] Are Liberals Smarter?

[raunchydog]

"...a lower I.Q. goes hand in hand with both racism and conservative
beliefs...Democrats, it seems, have a greater tolerance for uncertainty
have because of their larger anterior cingulate cortexes, and
Republicans are more sensitive to fear, because of their larger right
amygdalas."

read more:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/11/19/are-liberals-smarter-study-indic\
ates-the-answer-is-yes/


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Sounds pretty unlikely to me. I would need to see documentary evidence that 
> this laughter did in fact take place. And do you think anyone will believe 
> for a moment that you just "came across" this post of mine when you were 
> actually "looking for something else"? Now THAT is definitely making ME 
> laugh! 
> 

Video documentation of Judy laughing.
http://youtu.be/WaIJKM0sjdo

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > It's not going to work, Share. Authfriend has no sense of humor.
> > > The last time she laughed was in nineteen seventy-nine, and the
> > > last smile appeared on her face in nineteen eighty-seven, give
> > > or take a year or two in both cases.
> > 
> > Actually, she laughed pretty hard when she came across this
> > as she was looking for something else in the archives:
> > 
> > "Oh, Robin, sometimes I wish you would say to your critics
> > something along the lines of 'I am what I am. If you don't
> > like it, go fuck yourself,' but I guess that's not your style.
> > Over the last few days I felt like I was a voyeur at some 
> > kind of War Crimes Tribunal or at one of those sessions they
> > have in prisons where victims get to confront those who
> > wronged them. It all seems a bit over the top. I would say:
> > Stuff happens. Get used to it. But again, that might be a
> > little blunt for your elegant mind. I'm also reminded of a
> > passage in D. H. Lawrence's Women in Love, where the
> > character Birkin says something like, 'For every murder there
> > is a murderee, someone who wants to get murdered.' So I think
> > everyone has to take responsibility for the situations they
> > get into rather than being so eager to lay blame and whine
> > about being a victim."
> > 
> > --feste37, August 8, 2012
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316486
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> It's not going to work, Share. Authfriend has no sense of humor. The last 
> time she laughed was in nineteen seventy-nine, and the last smile appeared on 
> her face in nineteen eighty-seven, give or take a year or two in both cases.  

Hey Feste, my feisty friend, what's up? If you look at authfriend's picture 
posted here at FFL she is smiling. I think that one was taken after 1987, in 
fact I'm sure it was. Did that cult book do you in? Tell me what's eating you, 
you seem bitter and different. I hope you'll still come to Victoria for our 
party, everyone will be there. Please say 'yes'.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > dear Judy, I would like to answer your interesting question but 
> > unfortunately I don't read your posts.  love, Share  
> > PS  This is me channeling Ravi.  What do you think?  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:07 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > I use homeopathic remedies for colds and they work really well.  The 
> > > theory is that very minute amounts of the cause of an ailment are put 
> > > into the body and then the body reacts by creating antidotes to that 
> > > ailment.
> > 
> > Interesting. I wonder how they get the more than 200 virus
> > types that cause colds into the remedy.
> > 
> >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > PS  I agree about Ravi inspiring Divine Compassion.  Even if he's 
> > > now agin me (-:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: seventhray1 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:36 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > snip
> > > > Personally I prefer homeopathic remedies and just take a drink
> > > > of water when there's nothing wrong with me.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > This company, Luyties,  used to our next store (business) neighbor, 
> > > until they turned their building into residential.  
> > > 
> > > I wish understood homeopathy better.  
> > > 
> > > Lately, what I've read indicates the placebo effect is a strong part of 
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/luyties/
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[feste37]

Sounds pretty unlikely to me. I would need to see documentary evidence that 
this laughter did in fact take place. And do you think anyone will believe for 
a moment that you just "came across" this post of mine when you were actually 
"looking for something else"? Now THAT is definitely making ME laugh! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > It's not going to work, Share. Authfriend has no sense of humor.
> > The last time she laughed was in nineteen seventy-nine, and the
> > last smile appeared on her face in nineteen eighty-seven, give
> > or take a year or two in both cases.
> 
> Actually, she laughed pretty hard when she came across this
> as she was looking for something else in the archives:
> 
> "Oh, Robin, sometimes I wish you would say to your critics
> something along the lines of 'I am what I am. If you don't
> like it, go fuck yourself,' but I guess that's not your style.
> Over the last few days I felt like I was a voyeur at some 
> kind of War Crimes Tribunal or at one of those sessions they
> have in prisons where victims get to confront those who
> wronged them. It all seems a bit over the top. I would say:
> Stuff happens. Get used to it. But again, that might be a
> little blunt for your elegant mind. I'm also reminded of a
> passage in D. H. Lawrence's Women in Love, where the
> character Birkin says something like, 'For every murder there
> is a murderee, someone who wants to get murdered.' So I think
> everyone has to take responsibility for the situations they
> get into rather than being so eager to lay blame and whine
> about being a victim."
> 
> --feste37, August 8, 2012
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316486
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Open Letter to Obama from Michael Moore

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> Yes, yes and YES! Thank you, Michael Moore. My sentiments exactly!

I figured you might enjoy this, you old hound dog you.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/open-letter-president-obama#.UKpEbcDLiD0.facebook
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sweetie Pie Ravi, see you too can have a name that starts with S.  
> > > Whoops but maybe that's not what you want. (-:
> > > Sweet Ravi, dry your eyes and no
> > >  tears, be a big boy.  Everything will be ok.  Sun is in a friend's 
> > > sign now and not debilitated in Share's first house.  Venus is in its 
> > > own sign in Share's first house.  Yes, Mercury still retrograde but all 
> > > in all, things are looking up.  And if my posts are making your tummy 
> > > turn, then simply don't read them.  I have found this to be a wondrous 
> > > technique so
> > >  I'll understand if you take recourse to it also.    
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anyway, yes  thank you for continuing to pray for me and my complete 
> > > healing.  
> > > But could you also maybe squeeze in a prayer that Judy acquire a sense of 
> > > humor?  Ok, no big stretch like able to laugh at 
> > > herself, but you know, to at least be able to recognize when someone is 
> > > joking.  Even Feste says she has not smiled since 1987!  I know she's 
> > > got a big job as Supreme Guardian of the Truth and all that.  But I 
> > > think she could have a little fun now and then.  Right?  Are the two 
> > > really that mutually exclusive?!  
> > > 
> > > How about Salyavin?  Has he escaped the curse of the S name?
> > > Love,
> > > Share  
> > > 
> > > PS  What is it about you guys falling in love with your high tech 
> > > items?  Card falling in love with Safari?  You trysting with Siri?  
> > > And notice, both of those haveS names!  I very much doubt that is a 
> > > coincidence.  But what do you think it means?   
> > 
> > So interesting Share. You have been known to react violently to neutral or 
> > non-confrontional posts and yet when someone writes a rather scathing or 
> > hard hitting one like Ravi did you turn into a little child. All sort of 
> > cooing and using words like "tummy" and "sweetie pie". Things like that. Do 
> > you think it will work if I use this technique on Barry? Will it work on 
> > Ravi?
> > > 
> 
> Well, Ann maybe it's another way of not saying what you mean or meaning what 
> you say. Transparent obfuscation?

When in a difficult or uncomfortable position play helpless. Or in the wild it 
is generally referred to as "playing possum". 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_death
> 
> > > 
> > >  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Well dear Share -  please don't take this personally. You, we were 
> > > fighting against history - all FFL posters with a first name starting 
> > > with the letter S all turned out to be stupid - Stupid Sal, Stupid Susan, 
> > > Stupid Steve. 
> > > 
> > > And all of us tried our best, praying for you, doing our best with our 
> > > respective pastoral counselors,  healers, shamans, light workers but we 
> > > all failed so it's a collective failure Share. We couldn't buck the 
> > > trend, the odds were heavily stacked against us. So what you turned to be 
> > > stupid and more - paranoid, hysterical - our hearts were in the right 
> > > place. I wish a complete healing for you dear Share - this is a sad day 
> > > for all us. I can't stop this torrent of tears flowing down my cheeks.
> > > 
> > > Love,
> > > Ravi
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, raunchydog  wrote:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > > >> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > > >> he'll be gratified."
> > > >> 
> > > >> Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid 
> > > >> Steve
> > > >> is killing me - someone please end this charade.
> > > >> 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Ending the Charade
> > > >http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM
> > > >
> > > >> 
> > > >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> > **
> > > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
> > > >> > 
> > > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> > > >> > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > > >> > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > > >> > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Of course you would say that.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > You can t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> It's not going to work, Share. Authfriend has no sense of humor.
> The last time she laughed was in nineteen seventy-nine, and the
> last smile appeared on her face in nineteen eighty-seven, give
> or take a year or two in both cases.

Actually, she laughed pretty hard when she came across this
as she was looking for something else in the archives:

"Oh, Robin, sometimes I wish you would say to your critics
something along the lines of 'I am what I am. If you don't
like it, go fuck yourself,' but I guess that's not your style.
Over the last few days I felt like I was a voyeur at some 
kind of War Crimes Tribunal or at one of those sessions they
have in prisons where victims get to confront those who
wronged them. It all seems a bit over the top. I would say:
Stuff happens. Get used to it. But again, that might be a
little blunt for your elegant mind. I'm also reminded of a
passage in D. H. Lawrence's Women in Love, where the
character Birkin says something like, 'For every murder there
is a murderee, someone who wants to get murdered.' So I think
everyone has to take responsibility for the situations they
get into rather than being so eager to lay blame and whine
about being a victim."

--feste37, August 8, 2012

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316486

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Ravi Chivukula]

Well dear Share - when I was young I would be unmoved by praise, because I
already knew what I was good at. But the minute someone criticized me,
challenged me, got upset or angry at me  I would get very excited - since
here was the chance to see if I or the other person was right. And whenever
I was wrong I corrected myself even if it was painful. So that's all I have
to say in response to your post.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Share Long  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Sweetie Pie Ravi, see you too can have a name that starts with S.  Whoops
> but maybe that's not what you want. (-:
> Sweet Ravi, dry your eyes and no tears, be a big boy.  Everything will be
> ok.  Sun is in a friend's sign now and not debilitated in Share's first
> house.  Venus is in its own sign in Share's first house.  Yes, Mercury
> still retrograde but all in all, things are looking up.  And if my posts
> are making your tummy turn, then simply don't read them.  I have found this
> to be a wondrous technique so I'll understand if you take recourse to it
> also.
>
> Anyway, yes  thank you for continuing to pray for me and my complete
> healing.  But could you also maybe squeeze in a prayer that Judy acquire a
> sense of humor?  Ok, no big stretch like able to laugh at herself, but you
> know, to at least be able to recognize when someone is joking.  Even Feste
> says she has not smiled since 1987!  I know she's got a big job as Supreme
> Guardian of the Truth and all that.  But I think she could have a little
> fun now and then.  Right?  Are the two really that mutually exclusive?!
>
> How about Salyavin?  Has he escaped the curse of the S name?
> Love,
> Share
>
> PS  What is it about you guys falling in love with your high tech items?
> Card falling in love with Safari?  You trysting with Siri?  And notice,
> both of those haveS names!  I very much doubt that is a coincidence.  But
> what do you think it means?
>   --
> *From:* Ravi Chivukula 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 2:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve
>
>
> Well dear Share -  please don't take this personally. You, we were
> fighting against history - all FFL posters with a first name starting with
> the letter S all turned out to be stupid - Stupid Sal, Stupid Susan, Stupid
> Steve.
>
> And all of us tried our best, praying for you, doing our best with our
> respective pastoral counselors,  healers, shamans, light workers but we all
> failed so it's a collective failure Share. We couldn't buck the trend, the
> odds were heavily stacked against us. So what you turned to be stupid and
> more - paranoid, hysterical - our hearts were in the right place. I wish a
> complete healing for you dear Share - this is a sad day for all us. I can't
> stop this torrent of tears flowing down my cheeks.
>
> Love,
> Ravi
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, raunchydog  wrote:
>
> **
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > he'll be gratified."
> >
> > Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid
> Steve
> > is killing me - someone please end this charade.
> >
>
> Ending the Charade
> http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM
>
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> > >
> > > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> > >
> > >
> > > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> > > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> > >
> > > Of course you would say that.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> > > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> > > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
> > >
> > > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > > he'll be gratified.
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> > > > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> > > > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> > > > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> > > > >
> > > > > No such luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> > > > > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc. I
> > > > > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> > > > > my

[FairfieldLife] 600 Pandits NOW ready to come!

[Dick Mays]

From: Raja Wynne and Raja Harris 
Date: November 19, 2012 8:56:16 PM CST
Reply-To: direc...@globalpeaceinitiative.org

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> 
> > Anyway, yes  thank you for continuing to pray for me and my 
> > complete healing.  
> > But could you also maybe squeeze in a prayer that Judy acquire a 
> > sense of humor?  Ok, no big stretch like able to laugh at 
> > herself, but you know, to at least be able to recognize when 
> > someone is joking. Even Feste says she has not smiled since 1987!
> 
> Eat your heart out, baby:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300960
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301020
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301104
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301143
> 
> 
>

http://youtu.be/Qle1OrunKnE

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

> Anyway, yes  thank you for continuing to pray for me and my 
> complete healing.  
> But could you also maybe squeeze in a prayer that Judy acquire a 
> sense of humor?  Ok, no big stretch like able to laugh at 
> herself, but you know, to at least be able to recognize when 
> someone is joking. Even Feste says she has not smiled since 1987!

Eat your heart out, baby:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300960
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301020
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301104
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301143

[FairfieldLife] Re: Open Letter to Obama from Michael Moore

[raunchydog]

Yes, yes and YES! Thank you, Michael Moore. My sentiments exactly!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/open-letter-president-obama#.UKpEbcDLiD0.facebook
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Sweetie Pie Ravi, see you too can have a name that starts with S.  Whoops 
> > but maybe that's not what you want. (-:
> > Sweet Ravi, dry your eyes and no
> >  tears, be a big boy.  Everything will be ok.  Sun is in a friend's sign 
> > now and not debilitated in Share's first house.  Venus is in its own sign 
> > in Share's first house.  Yes, Mercury still retrograde but all in all, 
> > things are looking up.  And if my posts are making your tummy turn, then 
> > simply don't read them.  I have found this to be a wondrous technique so
> >  I'll understand if you take recourse to it also.    
> > 
> > 
> > Anyway, yes  thank you for continuing to pray for me and my complete 
> > healing.  
> > But could you also maybe squeeze in a prayer that Judy acquire a sense of 
> > humor?  Ok, no big stretch like able to laugh at 
> > herself, but you know, to at least be able to recognize when someone is 
> > joking.  Even Feste says she has not smiled since 1987!  I know she's got 
> > a big job as Supreme Guardian of the Truth and all that.  But I think she 
> > could have a little fun now and then.  Right?  Are the two really that 
> > mutually exclusive?!  
> > 
> > How about Salyavin?  Has he escaped the curse of the S name?
> > Love,
> > Share  
> > 
> > PS  What is it about you guys falling in love with your high tech items?  
> > Card falling in love with Safari?  You trysting with Siri?  And notice, 
> > both of those haveS names!  I very much doubt that is a coincidence.  But 
> > what do you think it means?   
> 
> So interesting Share. You have been known to react violently to neutral or 
> non-confrontional posts and yet when someone writes a rather scathing or hard 
> hitting one like Ravi did you turn into a little child. All sort of cooing 
> and using words like "tummy" and "sweetie pie". Things like that. Do you 
> think it will work if I use this technique on Barry? Will it work on Ravi?
> > 

Well, Ann maybe it's another way of not saying what you mean or meaning what 
you say. Transparent obfuscation?

> > 
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > Well dear Share -  please don't take this personally. You, we were 
> > fighting against history - all FFL posters with a first name starting with 
> > the letter S all turned out to be stupid - Stupid Sal, Stupid Susan, Stupid 
> > Steve. 
> > 
> > And all of us tried our best, praying for you, doing our best with our 
> > respective pastoral counselors,  healers, shamans, light workers but we 
> > all failed so it's a collective failure Share. We couldn't buck the trend, 
> > the odds were heavily stacked against us. So what you turned to be stupid 
> > and more - paranoid, hysterical - our hearts were in the right place. I 
> > wish a complete healing for you dear Share - this is a sad day for all us. 
> > I can't stop this torrent of tears flowing down my cheeks.
> > 
> > Love,
> > Ravi
> > 
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, raunchydog  wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > >> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > >> he'll be gratified."
> > >> 
> > >> Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid 
> > >> Steve
> > >> is killing me - someone please end this charade.
> > >> 
> > >
> > >
> > Ending the Charade
> > >http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM
> > >
> > >> 
> > >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> > **
> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
> > >> > 
> > >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> > >> >
> > >> > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> > >> > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > >> > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > >> > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> > >> >
> > >> > Of course you would say that.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> > >> > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> > >> > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
> > >> >
> > >> > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > >> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > >> > he'll be gratified.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Boy, was

[FairfieldLife] Open Letter to Obama from Michael Moore

[awoelflebater]

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/open-letter-president-obama#.UKpEbcDLiD0.facebook

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Sweetie Pie Ravi, see you too can have a name that starts with S.  Whoops 
> but maybe that's not what you want. (-:
> Sweet Ravi, dry your eyes and no
>  tears, be a big boy.  Everything will be ok.  Sun is in a friend's sign 
> now and not debilitated in Share's first house.  Venus is in its own sign in 
> Share's first house.  Yes, Mercury still retrograde but all in all, things 
> are looking up.  And if my posts are making your tummy turn, then simply 
> don't read them.  I have found this to be a wondrous technique so
>  I'll understand if you take recourse to it also.    
> 
> 
> Anyway, yes  thank you for continuing to pray for me and my complete 
> healing.  
> But could you also maybe squeeze in a prayer that Judy acquire a sense of 
> humor?  Ok, no big stretch like able to laugh at 
> herself, but you know, to at least be able to recognize when someone is 
> joking.  Even Feste says she has not smiled since 1987!  I know she's got a 
> big job as Supreme Guardian of the Truth and all that.  But I think she 
> could have a little fun now and then.  Right?  Are the two really that 
> mutually exclusive?!  
> 
> How about Salyavin?  Has he escaped the curse of the S name?
> Love,
> Share  
> 
> PS  What is it about you guys falling in love with your high tech items?  
> Card falling in love with Safari?  You trysting with Siri?  And notice, 
> both of those haveS names!  I very much doubt that is a coincidence.  But 
> what do you think it means?   

So interesting Share. You have been known to react violently to neutral or 
non-confrontional posts and yet when someone writes a rather scathing or hard 
hitting one like Ravi did you turn into a little child. All sort of cooing and 
using words like "tummy" and "sweetie pie". Things like that. Do you think it 
will work if I use this technique on Barry? Will it work on Ravi?
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve
>  
> 
>   
> Well dear Share -  please don't take this personally. You, we were fighting 
> against history - all FFL posters with a first name starting with the letter 
> S all turned out to be stupid - Stupid Sal, Stupid Susan, Stupid Steve. 
> 
> And all of us tried our best, praying for you, doing our best with our 
> respective pastoral counselors,  healers, shamans, light workers but we all 
> failed so it's a collective failure Share. We couldn't buck the trend, the 
> odds were heavily stacked against us. So what you turned to be stupid and 
> more - paranoid, hysterical - our hearts were in the right place. I wish a 
> complete healing for you dear Share - this is a sad day for all us. I can't 
> stop this torrent of tears flowing down my cheeks.
> 
> Love,
> Ravi
> 
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, raunchydog  wrote:
> 
>  
> >  
> >
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >>
> >> "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> >> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> >> he'll be gratified."
> >> 
> >> Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid Steve
> >> is killing me - someone please end this charade.
> >> 
> >
> >
> Ending the Charade
> >http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM
> >
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > **
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
> >> > 
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> >> >
> >> > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> >> > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> >> > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> >> > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> >> >
> >> > Of course you would say that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> >> > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> >> > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
> >> >
> >> > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> >> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> >> > he'll be gratified.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> >> > > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> >> > > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> >> > > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > No such luck.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Share Long]

Sweetie Pie Ravi, see you too can have a name that starts with S.  Whoops but 
maybe that's not what you want. (-:
Sweet Ravi, dry your eyes and no
 tears, be a big boy.  Everything will be ok.  Sun is in a friend's sign now 
and not debilitated in Share's first house.  Venus is in its own sign in 
Share's first house.  Yes, Mercury still retrograde but all in all, things are 
looking up.  And if my posts are making your tummy turn, then simply don't read 
them.  I have found this to be a wondrous technique so
 I'll understand if you take recourse to it also.    


Anyway, yes  thank you for continuing to pray for me and my complete healing.  
But could you also maybe squeeze in a prayer that Judy acquire a sense of 
humor?  Ok, no big stretch like able to laugh at 
herself, but you know, to at least be able to recognize when someone is 
joking.  Even Feste says she has not smiled since 1987!  I know she's got a big 
job as Supreme Guardian of the Truth and all that.  But I think she could have 
a little fun now and then.  Right?  Are the two really that mutually 
exclusive?!  

How about Salyavin?  Has he escaped the curse of the S name?
Love,
Share  

PS  What is it about you guys falling in love with your high tech items?  Card 
falling in love with Safari?  You trysting with Siri?  And notice, both of 
those haveS names!  I very much doubt that is a coincidence.  But what do you 
think it means?   



 From: Ravi Chivukula 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve
 

  
Well dear Share -  please don't take this personally. You, we were fighting 
against history - all FFL posters with a first name starting with the letter S 
all turned out to be stupid - Stupid Sal, Stupid Susan, Stupid Steve. 

And all of us tried our best, praying for you, doing our best with our 
respective pastoral counselors,  healers, shamans, light workers but we all 
failed so it's a collective failure Share. We couldn't buck the trend, the odds 
were heavily stacked against us. So what you turned to be stupid and more - 
paranoid, hysterical - our hearts were in the right place. I wish a complete 
healing for you dear Share - this is a sad day for all us. I can't stop this 
torrent of tears flowing down my cheeks.

Love,
Ravi

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, raunchydog  wrote:

 
>  
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
>wrote:
>>
>> "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
>> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
>> he'll be gratified."
>> 
>> Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid Steve
>> is killing me - someone please end this charade.
>> 
>
>
Ending the Charade
>http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM
>
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:
>> 
>> > **
>
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
>> >
>> > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
>> >
>> >
>> > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
>> > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
>> > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
>> > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
>> >
>> > Of course you would say that.
>> >
>> >
>> > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
>> > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
>> > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
>> >
>> > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
>> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
>> > he'll be gratified.
>> >
>> >
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
>> > > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
>> > > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
>> > > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
>> > > >
>> > > > No such luck.
>> > > >
>> > > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
>> > > > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc. I
>> > > > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
>> > > > my future posts. I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
>> > > > whatever course of action you choose."
>> > > >
>> > > > Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
>> > > > limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
>> > > > despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
>> > > > >
>
> > > > > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!Â
>> > > That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core? Tha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Change of Pace

[Share Long]

 From: mjackson74 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:46 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Change of Pace
 

  
After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express. 
God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry, Buck and Ravi 
and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, 
marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and Merlin 
and wgm4u, God Bless  seekliberation  nablusoss,  John, laughinggull, 
Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti, salyavin, and Jason, 
God Bless 808, emptybill and good old Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and 
seventhray and Bhairitu, raunchydog and authfriend. 

God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan, Bill 
Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or not. 

May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and Divine 
Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to the whole God 
Blessed Earth. 

That's all I have to say. 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > I use homeopathic remedies for colds and they work really well.  The 
> > > theory is that very minute amounts of the cause of an ailment are put 
> > > into the body and then the body reacts by creating antidotes to that 
> > > ailment.
> > 
> > Interesting. I wonder how they get the more than 200 virus
> > types that cause colds into the remedy.
> 
> From what I understand they use the opposite of the cold, or
> rather something that makes you feel the opposite sorts of
> things you feel when you have a cold.

So symptomatic relief, then, not anything to do with what
actually causes the cold or with triggering the body to 
produce "antidotes" (I guess she meant antibodies). That
makes marginally more sense, I suppose.

 That's what gets
> diluted until there's none of it left, but luckily the solution
> is banged on a bible (or other hard but yielding surface)
> which is what makes the water remember. 
> 
> It's all so weird I feel like I dreamt it but I've read books
> about it to check. Apparently at homeopathy HQ they have
> classical music synthesised into treatments because Bach made
> an early homeopath feel better when he got stung by a bee or 
> something.

There's something called Bach Flower Remedies, but I don't
think that relates to Johann Sebastian.

But JSB is a cure for just about anything, so maybe putting
him into the treatments isn't all that dumb.




 I
> gave up at that point. It's a placebo guys, no matter how good it makes you 
> feel and the weird thing about placebos is they work 
> even if you know they are!
> 
> 
> > > PS  I agree about Ravi inspiring Divine Compassion.  Even if he's now 
> > > agin me (-:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: seventhray1 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:36 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > snip
> > > > Personally I prefer homeopathic remedies and just take a drink
> > > > of water when there's nothing wrong with me.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > This company, Luyties,  used to our next store (business) neighbor, 
> > > until they turned their building into residential.  
> > > 
> > > I wish understood homeopathy better.  
> > > 
> > > Lately, what I've read indicates the placebo effect is a strong part of 
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/luyties/
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
> I'm so sorry I caused a drop in your IQ, Steve. I didn't
> think that was possible.


Judy, maybe at Feste's prompting, you finally said something that might
be charactorized as light hearted a few  posts ago regarding Michael's
Thanksgiving blessing.

I know you are capable of a better insult than the one above.

The trick is to find one that is actually a little funny.  Too many of
yours are just plain mean.  But this one, I'm afraid is probably one I
told to Francie Hess in the third grade at little Ladue grade school
back in 1964.

Ravi, for all the heaping helpings of abuse, usually finds a way to
incorporate some humor in his insults.  But then again, practice makes
perfect.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:30 PM, authfriend  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > > he'll be gratified.
> >
> > Hey Judy, I'm running real low on posts, but I had to let you know that
> > you gave me a chuckle with this.
> > It sounds like you are according Ravi above average powers of
> > discrimination when it comes ascertaining personality traits.
> > If you meant what you said as an insult, I think the stretch did indeed
> > snap back at you. I don't think it knocked you off your feet, or took
> > out an eye, but I would say it caused a substantial, but perhaps
> > momentary drop in IQ.
>
> I'm so sorry I caused a drop in your IQ, Steve. I didn't
> think that was possible.
>

OK this is getting to be tiring - Judy - you have that kind of affect on
men - even some women like S.Share, S.Sal & S.Susan. Yep drop in IQ's fits
that pattern, not that Steve can afford to lose any of his IQ - his engine,
err brain is running dry as it is. You need to learn to be fair on Steve -
let him read some Shakespeare to his kids, replenish his IQ and get back to
you. I'm sure he will have a few tricks up his sleeve then.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> 
> > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > he'll be gratified.
> 
> Hey Judy, I'm running real low on posts, but I had to let you know that
> you gave me a chuckle with this.
> It sounds like you are according Ravi above average powers of
> discrimination when it comes ascertaining personality traits.
> If you meant what you said as an insult, I think the stretch did indeed
> snap back at you.  I don't think it knocked you off your feet, or took
> out an eye, but I would say it caused a substantial, but perhaps
> momentary drop in IQ.

I'm so sorry I caused a drop in your IQ, Steve. I didn't
think that was possible.


> Maybe take another run at it.
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace

[Michael Jackson]

I'll head your way right after I finish watching the Princess Bride - 
ironically (since I am also messing around on FFL) I just saw the part where 
Wesley says "Life is pain - anyone who says differently is selling something." 
Ha! How funny!

Love you too Ann






 From: awoelflebater 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express. 
> God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry, Buck and Ravi 
> and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, 
> marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and 
> Merlin and wgm4u, God Bless  seekliberation  nablusoss,  John, laughinggull, 
> Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti, salyavin, and Jason, 
> God Bless 808, emptybill and good old Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and 
> seventhray and Bhairitu, raunchydog and authfriend. 
> 
> God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan, 
> Bill Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or not. 
> 
> May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
> and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and 
> Divine Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to the 
> whole God Blessed Earth. 
> 
> That's all I have to say.

Beautiful, now come on over to my place for the shindig. We can now toast each 
other as well. Love you Michael!!
>


 

[FairfieldLife] What's Behind the Dow's 200-point Rally?

[John]

The market is apparently convinced that a resolution to the "fiscal cliff" is 
for certain.  We'll soon find out how Congress votes on the question of tax 
increase for the rich.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2012/11/19/whats-behind-the-dows-200-point-rally.aspx

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Michael Jackson]

That is an interesting analysis - and the first sentence made me laugh a good 
deal - thank you!





 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 5:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> If holding people accountable for their deeds and behavior gives me the 
> consciousness of an amoeba, I willingly accept the label. 
> 
> It is preferable to saying "Oh, that one didn't work out either, must be 
> somethin' subtle." or "Oh they aren't going to go any further with that 
> project that Marshy said was so muy importante, well he's so enlightened 
> he must see things we don't and knows in his enlightened consciousness that 
> the project is unnecessary now." 
> 
> In such situations one of course does not ask for refunds for monies given 
> for the now defunct project. 
> 
> But I am rambling as amoebas are often prone to do.

Amoebas are biologically immortal except for accidents, so you are one up on 
the TMO for that. Gurus can be under a lot of strange influences, as adoration 
can isolate them in a way that does not allow ordinary human interaction. If 
they are not rock solid enlightened and have decent ethical values, this can 
cause them to fall short of proclaimed and expected ideals. 

In the early days MMY did not seem like a betrayer of the faith people put on 
him. Plus a guru who surrounds themselves with an organisation is looking for 
trouble because of the non uniform quality of disciples and the inevitable 
number of administrators who believe rather than live the results of a 
teaching. As soon as a teacher is surrounded by an inner circle of disciples, a 
movement is doomed to corruption, unknowingly the teacher loses control as 
middlemen proliferate, and when the teacher goes, management remains, and 
everybody hates management except managers.

A lot of this falls on the stupidity of the disciples. It is almost as if there 
is a law of nature that says once a teacher gets x number of disciples, and a 
movement forms, that is the beginning of the end of whatever purity of teaching 
can be had. Perhaps a teaching has a critical mass of students above which it 
will mutate into something less than desirable. It will become a problem to all 
solutions instead of a solution to all problems.

> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:01 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks I appreciate your saying this. I just like honesty, that's all - 
> 
> if the TMO came clean owned up to all the things the things they do, openly 
> and honestly, I wouldn't have a word to say.
> 
> What I wonder about is why the TMO should let you know anything. Because even 
> if they did you wouldn't be able to understand even a sparkle of the ideas. 
> Do you remember the pearls before swine analogy ?  Being in a good mood today 
> and granting you the benefit of the doubt, it's not because I consider you a 
> pig, it's just that the qualifications for insights are not even dimly 
> present.
> 
> 
> >  From: awoelflebater 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:28 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Michael, I read the website and your comments and I thought, like virtually 
> > all of your writing here at FFL, that you state you case and your 
> > experiences with utmost clarity and lack of reaction. I appreciate who you 
> > are and where you're coming from to the extent that I can without really 
> > knowing you. Carry on, you are simply speaking of your perceptions and 
> > conclusions and experiences in a way which I find intelligent and worth 
> > considering.
> 
> Have you ever meditated with TM or spend time in the TMO ? If not, how on 
> earth can you possibly have an opinion ? I usually don't have the time to 
> read your posts here, but if they are equally unfounded what would be the 
> reason to start ?
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express. 
> God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry, Buck and Ravi 
> and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, 
> marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and 
> Merlin and wgm4u, God Bless  seekliberation  nablusoss,  John, laughinggull, 
> Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti, salyavin, and Jason, 
> God Bless 808, emptybill and good old Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and 
> seventhray and Bhairitu, raunchydog and authfriend. 
> 
> God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan, 
> Bill Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or not. 
> 
> May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
> and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and 
> Divine Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to the 
> whole God Blessed Earth. 
> 
> That's all I have to say.

Beautiful, now come on over to my place for the shindig. We can now toast each 
other as well. Love you Michael!!
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace

[Ravi Chivukula]

Don't be harsh on yourself- Judy has that kind of affect on men - even some
women like S.Share, S.Sal & S.Susan.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:

> **
>
>
> It was due to my inability to organize and pay attention and in the mood I
> am currently in I would say we all deserve a twice Blessed Life
>
>   --
> *From:* authfriend 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 5:48 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
> >
> > After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express.
> > God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry,
> > Buck and Ravi and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart
> > and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan
> > and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and Merlin and wgm4u,
> > God Bless seekliberation nablusoss, John, laughinggull,
> > Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti,
> > salyavin, and Jason, God Bless 808, emptybill and good old
> > Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and seventhray and Bhairitu,
> > raunchydog and authfriend.
>
> You asked God to bless me twice. Is that because I deserve
> it, or because I need it?
>
> > God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin,
> Bevan, Bill Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they
> meditating or not.
> >
> > May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
> > and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and
> Divine Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to
> the whole God Blessed Earth.
> >
> > That's all I have to say.
> >
>
>
>
>   
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> If holding people accountable for their deeds and behavior gives me the 
> consciousness of an amoeba, I willingly accept the label. 
> 
> It is preferable to saying "Oh, that one didn't work out either, must be 
> somethin' subtle." or "Oh they aren't going to go any further with that 
> project that Marshy said was so muy importante, well he's so enlightened 
> he must see things we don't and knows in his enlightened consciousness that 
> the project is unnecessary now." 
> 
> In such situations one of course does not ask for refunds for monies given 
> for the now defunct project. 
> 
> But I am rambling as amoebas are often prone to do.
 
Amoebas are biologically immortal except for accidents, so you are one up on 
the TMO for that. Gurus can be under a lot of strange influences, as adoration 
can isolate them in a way that does not allow ordinary human interaction. If 
they are not rock solid enlightened and have decent ethical values, this can 
cause them to fall short of proclaimed and expected ideals. 

In the early days MMY did not seem like a betrayer of the faith people put on 
him. Plus a guru who surrounds themselves with an organisation is looking for 
trouble because of the non uniform quality of disciples and the inevitable 
number of administrators who believe rather than live the results of a 
teaching. As soon as a teacher is surrounded by an inner circle of disciples, a 
movement is doomed to corruption, unknowingly the teacher loses control as 
middlemen proliferate, and when the teacher goes, management remains, and 
everybody hates management except managers.

A lot of this falls on the stupidity of the disciples. It is almost as if there 
is a law of nature that says once a teacher gets x number of disciples, and a 
movement forms, that is the beginning of the end of whatever purity of teaching 
can be had. Perhaps a teaching has a critical mass of students above which it 
will mutate into something less than desirable. It will become a problem to all 
solutions instead of a solution to all problems.
 
> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:01 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks I appreciate your saying this. I just like honesty, that's all - 
> 
> if the TMO came clean owned up to all the things the things they do, openly 
> and honestly, I wouldn't have a word to say.
> 
> What I wonder about is why the TMO should let you know anything. Because even 
> if they did you wouldn't be able to understand even a sparkle of the ideas. 
> Do you remember the pearls before swine analogy ?  Being in a good mood today 
> and granting you the benefit of the doubt, it's not because I consider you a 
> pig, it's just that the qualifications for insights are not even dimly 
> present.
> 
> 
> >  From: awoelflebater 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:28 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Michael, I read the website and your comments and I thought, like virtually 
> > all of your writing here at FFL, that you state you case and your 
> > experiences with utmost clarity and lack of reaction. I appreciate who you 
> > are and where you're coming from to the extent that I can without really 
> > knowing you. Carry on, you are simply speaking of your perceptions and 
> > conclusions and experiences in a way which I find intelligent and worth 
> > considering.
> 
> Have you ever meditated with TM or spend time in the TMO ? If not, how on 
> earth can you possibly have an opinion ? I usually don't have the time to 
> read your posts here, but if they are equally unfounded what would be the 
> reason to start ?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace

[Michael Jackson]

It was due to my inability to organize and pay attention and in the mood I am 
currently in I would say we all deserve a twice Blessed Life




 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 5:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express.
> God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry,
> Buck and Ravi and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart
> and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan
> and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and Merlin and wgm4u,
> God Bless  seekliberation  nablusoss,  John, laughinggull, 
> Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti,
> salyavin, and Jason, God Bless 808, emptybill and good old
> Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and seventhray and Bhairitu,
> raunchydog and authfriend.

You asked God to bless me twice. Is that because I deserve
it, or because I need it?

> God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan, 
> Bill Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or not. 
> 
> May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
> and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and 
> Divine Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to the 
> whole God Blessed Earth. 
> 
> That's all I have to say.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express.
> God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry,
> Buck and Ravi and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart
> and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan
> and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and Merlin and wgm4u,
> God Bless  seekliberation  nablusoss,  John, laughinggull, 
> Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti,
> salyavin, and Jason, God Bless 808, emptybill and good old
> Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and seventhray and Bhairitu,
> raunchydog and authfriend.

You asked God to bless me twice. Is that because I deserve
it, or because I need it?


 
> God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan, 
> Bill Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or not. 
> 
> May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
> and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and 
> Divine Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to the 
> whole God Blessed Earth. 
> 
> That's all I have to say.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Change of Pace

[Ravi Chivukula]

I have one sentiment to express as well.

God Bless Share and Steve
God Bless Steve and Share
God Bless Share and Steve
God Bless Steve and Share
God Bless Share and Steve
God Bless Steve and Share

Om Paranoia Vinaashaaya Namah
Om Hysteria Vinaashaya Namah
Om Stupidaaya Vinaashaya Namah

Om Intelligent peoplaaya peace of mindaaya Namaha.
Om let Share away from FFL, rotate among Fairfield's healers, shamans,
quantum light weaversaaya Namaha
Om let Steve away from FFL, rotate among business, family, kid's
Shakespearaaya Namaha.

Om Peace peace peace

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:46 PM, mjackson74  wrote:

> **
>
>
> After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express.
> God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry, Buck and
> Ravi and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart and Yifu, God Bless
> sparaig, marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan and masterjose. God Bless Mike
> Dixon and Merlin and wgm4u, God Bless seekliberation nablusoss, John,
> laughinggull, Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti,
> salyavin, and Jason, God Bless 808, emptybill and good old Richard
> Williams. God Bless Ann and seventhray and Bhairitu, raunchydog and
> authfriend.
>
> God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan,
> Bill Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or
> not.
>
> May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
> and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and
> Divine Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to
> the whole God Blessed Earth.
>
> That's all I have to say.
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> It's not going to work, Share. Authfriend has no sense of humor.
> The last time she laughed was in nineteen seventy-nine, and the
> last smile appeared on her face in nineteen eighty-seven, give
> or take a year or two in both cases.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301104

Boy, I've never known you to lie outright before, feste.



> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > dear Judy, I would like to answer your interesting question but 
> > unfortunately I don't read your posts.  love, Share  
> > PS  This is me channeling Ravi.  What do you think?  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> cardemaister:
> > What, if any, is your favorite MAV product? :o
> >
> My favorite MAV product is MAK 5 boiled well into
> a decoction that you can drink with MAV Kaptha Tea.
> 
> Everyone knows that the sacramental basis of the Vedic 
> Religion was the preparation and consumption of a 
> decoction obtained by mixing the juices of various 
> psychoactive ingredients, one of which may have been 
> Cannabis Indica, a species of weed, or a beverage 
> prepared by extracting the juice from the Amanita 
> Muscaria, a magic fungus, which together produced the 
> substance 'Soma'  mentioned on numerous occasions in 
> South Asian sacred scripture.
> 
> So, what do we know about Soma?
> 
> In this sadhu's (good fellow) humble opinion, this 
> 'ur-religion' does not begin with the composition of 
> the hymns of the Vedas which are codified and arranged 
> as we know them, termed the Rik, when the Aryans 
> arrived in modern Pakistan, but much further back in 
> time, in the late Ice Age up in Siberia.
> 
> During this cold age, when people had to live most of 
> the time deep inside caves or other dwellings, an 
> 'inward direction' was given to their spiritual 
> endeavors. Due to this fact, and with the aid of 
> certain magical herbs and plants, man first invented 
> religious reflection, geo-alchemy, and the art of 
> placement, geo-mancy.
> 
> When the Aryans came down from Siberia they brought 
> with them their shamanic religion and an urgaritic 
> language which became the Vedic and Persian 
> proto-religious language and later the Indo-European 
> tongue, which includes Sanskrit, and Persian, and 
> the dialects of Greek, Latin, German, Celtic, Irish, 
> English, French, Hindi, Urdu and Finnish.

Oops! Finnish belongs to a language family entirely
different from Indo-European languages like Sanskrit,
Latin and Swedish. Or almost all European languages
save Finnish, Estonian, Hungarian and Basque (which
has no known linguistic relatives in the whole world), and
some minor Fenno-ugric languages.

But I might say its one of my pet hypotheses that
when the ancestors of Finns lived in Siberia as
mammoth hunters, they might have been in close
contact with the Aryans, or whatever you like to
call the creators of Vedic hymns and stuff.

BTW, as I recall it, the "father" of modern homeopathy,
Dr. Samuel Hahnemann came up with the basic idea of
homeopathy when he noticed that in healthy individuals
quinine caused typical symptoms of malaria. 

He was way 
ahead of his time, when in addition to some herbs,
the only treatment for almost any illness was bloodletting
and stuff like that??

[FairfieldLife] Public Nudity Ban Considered in SF

[John]

When you are in San Francisco, you can wear flowers in your hair.  But make 
sure you have clothes on, or else.

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/public-nudity-ban-considered-san-francisco-221206232--abc-news-topstories.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Pace

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express. 
> God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry, Buck and Ravi 
> and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, 
> marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and 
> Merlin and wgm4u, God Bless  seekliberation  nablusoss,  John, laughinggull, 
> Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti, salyavin, and Jason, 
> God Bless 808, emptybill and good old Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and 
> seventhray and Bhairitu, raunchydog and authfriend. 
> 
> God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan, 
> Bill Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or not. 
> 
> May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
> and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and 
> Divine Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to the 
> whole God Blessed Earth. 
> 
> That's all I have to say.

Thanks but don't worry about pissing people off by having a
go at the TMO, most of us start here doing that, it's kind of 
a therapy - you realise you've been duped in a cult for years
and one that doesn't approve of dissent and all of a sudden
it has to come out somewhere.

You'll find an equilibrium with it soon and then you'll be
able to have a good laugh at what you used to believe about
the world and wonder how you got sucked into it. But you did
and so did everyone else here and it's OK because, even though
it looks like a lot of crap now, at one point it looked seductive
enough to chuck away a perfectly good life to follow the dream.

The way I look at it now is that no-one else I know has had an
experience as wild and weird as living with the TMO. It changes
you but not as much as you wanted and not in the way you wanted,
it never could have and that is what the anger is about, so many
unfulfillable bullshit promises. Never mind, live and learn eh?
Try to laugh at it all. At least you can fly now ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Change of Pace

[mjackson74]

After much fanfare on FFL I only have one sentiment to express. 
God Bless everyone of FFL. God Bless Rick and Share and Barry, Buck and Ravi 
and Robin, God Bless authfriend, Emily, oxcart and Yifu, God Bless sparaig, 
marekreavis, ultrarishi, Susan and masterjose. God Bless Mike Dixon and Merlin 
and wgm4u, God Bless  seekliberation  nablusoss,  John, laughinggull, 
Xenophaneros, 108, feste37, Alex Stanley, awakened_yeti, salyavin, and Jason, 
God Bless 808, emptybill and good old Richard Williams. God Bless Ann and 
seventhray and Bhairitu, raunchydog and authfriend. 

God Bless anyone I left out who posts here. God Bless John Hagelin, Bevan, Bill 
Sands. God Bless all who have ever learned TM be they meditating or not. 

May we all know we have unlimited Zero Point Energy available to us
and God Bless our use of that Zero Point Energy to create Bliss, Joy and Divine 
Delight in our lives so that delight spreads out to others and to the whole God 
Blessed Earth. 

That's all I have to say. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
 wrote:

> You are sounding more and more incoherent with every post Steve baby -
this
> is starting to concern me, if it was your usual run-of-the-mill
idiotic
> posts I would have stayed quiet. Time to request Share for some
healing on
> your behalf?
>
Ding! Ding! Ding!
A new winner for the inadvertent irony award.  Mr. Ravi Chivukula.
Ravi, I am going to be a little tied up the next few days, so why don't
you request, nay, implore Share to request ancestral prayers, quantum
light weaving, and anything else she feels might be useful for you.
You know Ravi, that we are coming on one of your traditional meltdown
periods.  Well, actually we're in it.  October to January.  So Hayum
Dukum Anakatum.  Avert the danger which is not yet upon us.  I'm pullin
for ya brother. I'm pullin for ya.
Hell, I'll even consider a Maharishi Yagya.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Ravi Chivukula]

Oh Empty baby - you must be the pastoral counselor that Share is referring
to. I have never doubted your ability to be a Guru to idiots, it's just a
tad surprising that you would out yourself like this. No worries Steve
needs your help - please talk to him as well.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, emptybill  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ravioli
>
> All that Share would need to do to channel you is to spew your brand of
> mind-vomit onto FFL. Perhaps for that you might find some mindless
> guru-groupie to engage you in a hurling contest.
>
> You could then claim victory and get your reward
> all over you.
>
> Oh ... I guess it already *is* all over you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > he'll be gratified."
> >
> > Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid
> Steve
> > is killing me - someone please end this charade.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
> lurkernomore20002000@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> > >
> > > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> > >
> > >
> > > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> > > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> > >
> > > Of course you would say that.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> > > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> > > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
> > >
> > > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > > he'll be gratified.
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> > > > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> > > > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> > > > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> > > > >
> > > > > No such luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> > > > > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc. I
> > > > > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> > > > > my future posts. I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
> > > > > whatever course of action you choose."
> > > > >
> > > > > Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
> > > > > limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
> > > > > despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!Â
> > > > That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core? That
> > > > otther bit about how no human being can enter into Steve's
> context?!Â
>
> > > > If one simply removes the word idiot, this post, even from the very
> > > > first sentence, could have been written by Robin:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > > unequivocally say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that
> > > > Robin could have written?!Â
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
>
> > > > > > Dear Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > > unequivocally say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an
> > > > idiot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you
> > > > project and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works -
> even
> > > > in your clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any
> intelligent,
> > > > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is
> > > > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people
> carry.
> > > > The problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other
> > > > idiot I have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the
> > > > idiotic, moronic self as you. The neurotic and existe

[FairfieldLife] The Joker

[emptybill]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, seventhray1  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > he'll be gratified.
>
> Hey Judy, I'm running real low on posts, but I had to let you know that
> you gave me a chuckle with this.
>
> It sounds like you are according Ravi above average powers of
> discrimination when it comes ascertaining personality traits.
>
> If you meant what you said as an insult, I think the stretch did indeed
> snap back at you.  I don't think it knocked you off your feet, or took out
> an eye, but I would say it caused a substantial, but perhaps momentary drop
> in IQ.
>
> Maybe take another run at it.
>

You are sounding more and more incoherent with every post Steve baby - this
is starting to concern me, if it was your usual run-of-the-mill idiotic
posts I would have stayed quiet. Time to request Share for some healing on
your behalf?

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[emptybill]

Ravioli

All that Share would need to do to channel you is to spew your brand of
mind-vomit onto FFL. Perhaps for that you might find some mindless
guru-groupie to engage you in a hurling contest.

You could then claim victory and get your reward
all over you.

Oh ... I guess it already is all over you.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
 wrote:
>
> "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> he'll be gratified."
>
> Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid
Steve
> is killing me - someone please end this charade.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
lurkernomore20002000@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> >
> > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> >
> >
> > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump
any
> > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> >
> > Of course you would say that.
> >
> >
> > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
> >
> > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > he'll be gratified.
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> > > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> > > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> > > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> > > >
> > > > No such luck.
> > > >
> > > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> > > >
> > > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> > > > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc. I
> > > > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> > > > my future posts. I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
> > > > whatever course of action you choose."
> > > >
> > > > Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
> > > > limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
> > > > despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin
here?!Â
> > > That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?Â
That
> > > otther bit about how no human being can enter into Steve's
context?!Â
> > > If one simply removes the word idiot, this post, even from the
very
> > > first sentence, could have been written by Robin:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > unequivocally say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > > > >
> > > > > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence
that
> > > Robin could have written?!Â
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Dear Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > unequivocally say - that you are who you are and supposed to be -
an
> > > idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self
you
> > > project and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works
- even
> > > in your clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any
intelligent,
> > > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion
is
> > > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people
carry.
> > > The problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no
other
> > > idiot I have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the
> > > idiotic, moronic self as you. The neurotic and existential
tendencies in
> > > the rest of us intelligent, sensitive people, they will never
touch you
> > > Steve - not at your core.
> > > > >
> > > > > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a
> > > connection with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us.
And I
> > > doubt you have ever established, or could establish, a
relationship with
> > > another intelligent, rational human being, because no human being
can
> > > enter into your idiotic context, and no human being can
reciprocally
> > > behave according to the idiotic intuitions and impu

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:

> I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> he'll be gratified.

Hey Judy, I'm running real low on posts, but I had to let you know that
you gave me a chuckle with this.
It sounds like you are according Ravi above average powers of
discrimination when it comes ascertaining personality traits.
If you meant what you said as an insult, I think the stretch did indeed
snap back at you.  I don't think it knocked you off your feet, or took
out an eye, but I would say it caused a substantial, but perhaps
momentary drop in IQ.
Maybe take another run at it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Ravi Chivukula]

Well dear Share -  please don't take this personally. You, we were fighting
against history - all FFL posters with a first name starting with the
letter S all turned out to be stupid - Stupid Sal, Stupid Susan, Stupid
Steve.

And all of us tried our best, praying for you, doing our best with our
respective pastoral counselors,  healers, shamans, light workers but we all
failed so it's a collective failure Share. We couldn't buck the trend, the
odds were heavily stacked against us. So what you turned to be stupid and
more - paranoid, hysterical - our hearts were in the right place. I wish a
complete healing for you dear Share - this is a sad day for all us. I can't
stop this torrent of tears flowing down my cheeks.

Love,
Ravi

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:11 PM, raunchydog  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > he'll be gratified."
> >
> > Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid
> Steve
> > is killing me - someone please end this charade.
> >
>
> Ending the Charade
> http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM
>
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> > >
> > > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> > >
> > >
> > > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> > > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> > >
> > > Of course you would say that.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> > > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> > > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
> > >
> > > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > > he'll be gratified.
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> > > > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> > > > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> > > > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> > > > >
> > > > > No such luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> > > > > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc. I
> > > > > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> > > > > my future posts. I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
> > > > > whatever course of action you choose."
> > > > >
> > > > > Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
> > > > > limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
> > > > > despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!Â
> > > > That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core? That
> > > > otther bit about how no human being can enter into Steve's
> context?!Â
>
> > > > If one simply removes the word idiot, this post, even from the very
> > > > first sentence, could have been written by Robin:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > > unequivocally say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that
> > > > Robin could have written?!Â
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Â
>
> > > > > > Dear Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > > unequivocally say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an
> > > > idiot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you
> > > > project and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works -
> even
> > > > in your clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any
> intelligent,
> > > > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is
> > > > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people
> carry.
> > > > The problem I have is forgetting that you 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> "I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> he'll be gratified."
> 
> Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid Steve
> is killing me - someone please end this charade.
> 

Ending the Charade
http://youtu.be/AOOs8MaR1YM

> 
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
> >
> > Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
> >
> >
> > > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> > > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
> >
> > Of course you would say that.
> >
> >
> > > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> > > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> > > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
> >
> > I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> > of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> > he'll be gratified.
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> > > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> > > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> > > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> > > >
> > > > No such luck.
> > > >
> > > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> > > >
> > > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> > > > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc. I
> > > > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> > > > my future posts. I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
> > > > whatever course of action you choose."
> > > >
> > > > Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
> > > > limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
> > > > despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!Â
> > > That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core? That
> > > otther bit about how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!Â
> > > If one simply removes the word idiot, this post, even from the very
> > > first sentence, could have been written by Robin:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > unequivocally say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > > > >
> > > > > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that
> > > Robin could have written?!Â
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Â
> > > > > Dear Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > > unequivocally say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an
> > > idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you
> > > project and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even
> > > in your clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent,
> > > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is
> > > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry.
> > > The problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other
> > > idiot I have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the
> > > idiotic, moronic self as you. The neurotic and existential tendencies in
> > > the rest of us intelligent, sensitive people, they will never touch you
> > > Steve - not at your core.
> > > > >
> > > > > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a
> > > connection with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I
> > > doubt you have ever established, or could establish, a relationship with
> > > another intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can
> > > enter into your idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally
> > > behave according to the idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is
> > > the real Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable
> > > in idiots. But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it.
> > > I challenge you to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[raunchydog]

SUB-SAN Channels a Submarine Sandwich
http://youtu.be/vJaV1WQy4as

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, authfriend  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > dear Judy, I would like to answer your interesting question
> > > but unfortunately I don't read your posts. love, Share
> >
> > Yes, Share, that really makes me just SO sad.
> >
> > If you'd read that post, you'd know I didn't ask you a
> > question, so no prob.
> >
> > > PS This is me channeling Ravi. What do you think?
> >
> > Trust me, you do not want to know.
> >
> 
> OMG dear Share - what the hell is wrong with you. You look more and more
> stupid in this game of trying to one-up Robin or Judy. Please stop it for
> god's sake !!!
> 
> And no - there can be no one who can channel me - even if there was you
> will the last person that can channel me, even the very notion of you
> channeling me is making me turn in my stomach. The better approach would be
> to stop your paranoid, hysterical behavior and start being more honest,
> truthful, stop depending on morons like Steve and you can eventually work
> your way up.
> 
> 
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Ravi Chivukula]

"I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
he'll be gratified."

Yes..very gratifying :-). This combination of Stupid Share and Stupid Steve
is killing me - someone please end this charade.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM, authfriend  wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
> wrote:
> >
> > You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
>
> Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?
>
>
> > And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> > aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> > But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> > sentiments she expressed towards Robin.
>
> Of course you would say that.
>
>
> > You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> > You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your
> > feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.
>
> I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
> of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
> he'll be gratified.
>
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> > > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> > > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> > > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> > >
> > > No such luck.
> > >
> > > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> > >
> > > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> > > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc. I
> > > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> > > my future posts. I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
> > > whatever course of action you choose."
> > >
> > > Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
> > > limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
> > > despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!Â
> > That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core? That
> > otther bit about how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!Â
> > If one simply removes the word idiot, this post, even from the very
> > first sentence, could have been written by Robin:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > unequivocally say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > > >
> > > > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that
> > Robin could have written?!Â
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > Dear Steve,
> > > >
> > > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> > unequivocally say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an
> > idiot.
> > > >
> > > > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you
> > project and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even
> > in your clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent,
> > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is
> > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry.
> > The problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other
> > idiot I have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the
> > idiotic, moronic self as you. The neurotic and existential tendencies in
> > the rest of us intelligent, sensitive people, they will never touch you
> > Steve - not at your core.
> > > >
> > > > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a
> > connection with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I
> > doubt you have ever established, or could establish, a relationship with
> > another intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can
> > enter into your idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally
> > behave according to the idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> > > >
> > > > You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is
> > the real Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable
> > in idiots. But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it.
> > I challenge you to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic
> > as you are. This is impossible.
> > > >
> > > > Love,
> > > > Ravi.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Â
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> B

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, authfriend  wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > dear Judy, I would like to answer your interesting question
> > but unfortunately I don't read your posts. love, Share
>
> Yes, Share, that really makes me just SO sad.
>
> If you'd read that post, you'd know I didn't ask you a
> question, so no prob.
>
> > PS This is me channeling Ravi. What do you think?
>
> Trust me, you do not want to know.
>

OMG dear Share - what the hell is wrong with you. You look more and more
stupid in this game of trying to one-up Robin or Judy. Please stop it for
god's sake !!!

And no - there can be no one who can channel me - even if there was you
will the last person that can channel me, even the very notion of you
channeling me is making me turn in my stomach. The better approach would be
to stop your paranoid, hysterical behavior and start being more honest,
truthful, stop depending on morons like Steve and you can eventually work
your way up.


>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: If you practice meditation then you are a yogi.

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Because "yoga" means meditation.  Those asanas are for limbering up to 
> sit in a meditative pose or in some cases to aid in healing a medical 
> condition.
>

Good for pole gymnastics too. 
http://youtu.be/2H1zjRU8hBo

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  
wrote:
>
> You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?

Er, yes. Did that disconcert you, Stevie boy?

> And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
> aforesaid sentiment expressed.
> But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those
> sentiments she expressed towards Robin.

Of course you would say that.

> You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
> You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your 
> feet, or God forbid, take out an eye.

I just have to tell you what a fantastic job you're doing
of confirming Ravi's recent description of you. I'm sure
he'll be gratified.


 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> > post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> > stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> > wise and compassionate Share says she is.
> >
> > No such luck.
> >
> > She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
> >
> > "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> > To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc.  I
> > will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> > my future posts.  I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
> > whatever course of action you choose."
> >
> > Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
> > limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
> > despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > >
> > > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?! 
> That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?  That
> otther bit about how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!Â
> If one simply removes the word idiot, this post, even from the very
> first sentence, could have been written by Robin:
> > >
> > >
> > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> unequivocally say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > >
> > > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that
> Robin could have written?!Â
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Dear Steve,
> > >
> > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> unequivocally say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an
> idiot.
> > >
> > > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you
> project and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even
> in your clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > >
> > > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent,
> logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is
> dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry.
> The problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other
> idiot I have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the
> idiotic, moronic self as you. The neurotic and existential tendencies in
> the rest of us intelligent, sensitive people, they will never touch you
> Steve - not at your core.
> > >
> > > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a
> connection with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I
> doubt you have ever established, or could establish, a relationship with
> another intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can
> enter into your idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally
> behave according to the idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> > >
> > > You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is
> the real Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable
> in idiots. But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it.
> I challenge you to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic
> as you are. This is impossible.
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Ravi.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >Â
> > > >
> > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> > > >> accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> > > >
> > > >You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I
> can't follow some of his posting, I understand his basic premise of
> checking one's subjectivity against reality.
> > > >And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel
> diminishing returns set in.
> > > >I am sorry I cannot afford you the same respect.Â
> > > >Your agenda offers no benefit that I can see.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this a possible scientific explanation of "witnessing?"

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 11/19/2012 10:12 AM, raunchydog wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> Life is improvisational jazz or "faking it" over patterns. ;-)
> >>
> > Life is a hot pole dance.
> > http://youtu.be/6tu3BozTnKY
> 
> This is one of your granddaughters?
>

Nope. It's me after lots of liposuction. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> dear Judy, I would like to answer your interesting question
> but unfortunately I don't read your posts. love, Share

Yes, Share, that really makes me just SO sad.

If you'd read that post, you'd know I didn't ask you a
question, so no prob.

> PS This is me channeling Ravi. What do you think?

Trust me, you do not want to know.

> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:07 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
>  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I use homeopathic remedies for colds and they work really well.  The 
> > theory is that very minute amounts of the cause of an ailment are put into 
> > the body and then the body reacts by creating antidotes to that ailment.
> 
> Interesting. I wonder how they get the more than 200 virus
> types that cause colds into the remedy.

[FairfieldLife] If you practice meditation then you are a yogi.

[Bhairitu]

Because "yoga" means meditation.  Those asanas are for limbering up to 
sit in a meditative pose or in some cases to aid in healing a medical 
condition.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is this a possible scientific explanation of "witnessing?"

[Bhairitu]

On 11/19/2012 10:12 AM, raunchydog wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> Life is improvisational jazz or "faking it" over patterns. ;-)
>>
> Life is a hot pole dance.
> http://youtu.be/6tu3BozTnKY

This is one of your granddaughters?

[FairfieldLife] Willy

[emptybill]

The contention of some modern scholars that gauDapAda's philosophy is
nothing more than buddhism clothed in vedAntic colors is based on two
errors, that do not do justice to either mahAyAna buddhism or to advaita
vedAnta.

* The  first and the more serious error lies in interpreting the
madhyamaka  concept of SUnyatA as an Absolute, equivalent to the
Atman or brahman of vedAnta.  A careful reading of nAgArjuna's
mUlamadhyamaka-kArikAs and other  works shows what pains the
madhyamaka school takes to avoid the extreme of  absolutism
(SAsvata-vAda). While the buddhist ajAtivAda  maintains, "There is
no birth," gauDapAda's argument about ajAtivAda  says, "There is an
Unborn." Thus, gauDapAda clearly upholds the  Atman as the absolute.
For nAgArjuna, no view is correct, because every  view ultimately
entails some absolutist positon, an extreme that is  avoided by the
buddhist middle path. gauDapAda, on the other hand, is 
inclusivistic in his scope. He argues that every view entails an 
absolutist position, and precisely for this reason, all views are said
to  be non-conflicting (avirodha) with the absolutism of advaita.

There are other points of contrast. For nAgArjuna, there is no need to
affirm a substratum (adhishThAna) of phenomena, whereas for gauDapAda,
the Atman is the substratum of all experience. The madhyamaka
non-duality is in terms of the emptiness (SUnyatA) of all phenomena,
while in the vedAnta view of non-duality, phenomena are possible only
due to the essential reality of the Atman, which is pure consciousness.
The madhyamaka school does not describe SUnyatA as an independent
absolute entity, whereas the advaita vedAnta emphasizes brahman/Atman as
an Absolute. In the light of these significant differences, seeing
nothing but mahAyAna buddhism in gauDapAda's advaita vedAnta is
impossible without seeing madhyamaka buddhism itself through
vedAnta-tinted glasses. As for the other schools of buddhism such as
vijnAnavAda, the madhyamaka school itself criticizes them for holding
views that entail consciousness as an Absolute. gauDapAda possibly
agrees with this evaluation of the vijnAnavAda school.

* The  second error lies in ignoring the fact that advaita
vedAnta no doubt  developed to a substantial degree before the time
of composition of GK IV.  Already in the paingala upanishad of the
Sukla yajurveda, which Sankara  quotes in his bhAshya, there is a
detailed exposition of non-duality through  the method of
adhyAropa-apavAda, (sublation of superimposition).  With Sruti being
interpreted in this way, advaita vedAnta, with all its 
"illusionist" conclusions, follows very naturally: the ultimate 
reality of only the substratum is upheld, and the superimposition is
denied an independent reality. Obviously, gauDapAda hails from this 
vedAntic tradition, and in his kArikas, he addresses his contemporary
mahAyAnists.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

You do realize that she was responding to Ravi?
And at any rate, the insightfulness of the comment should trump any
aforesaid sentiment expressed.
But, I would say, no harm, no foul even in regards to those sentiments
she expressed towards Robin.
You can try stretch that, but you would have to pull awfully hard.
You'd have to be sure it doesn't whip back and knock you on your feet,
or God forbid, take out an eye.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
>
> Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
> post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
> stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
> wise and compassionate Share says she is.
>
> No such luck.
>
> She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:
>
> "Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
> To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc.  I
> will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
> my future posts.  I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
> whatever course of action you choose."
>
> Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
> limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
> despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?! 
That bit about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?  That
otther bit about how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!Â
If one simply removes the word idiot, this post, even from the very
first sentence, could have been written by Robin:
> >
> >
> > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
unequivocally say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> >
> > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that
Robin could have written?!Â
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
unequivocally say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an
idiot.
> >
> > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you
project and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even
in your clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> >
> > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent,
logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is
dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry.
The problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other
idiot I have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the
idiotic, moronic self as you. The neurotic and existential tendencies in
the rest of us intelligent, sensitive people, they will never touch you
Steve - not at your core.
> >
> > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a
connection with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I
doubt you have ever established, or could establish, a relationship with
another intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can
enter into your idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally
behave according to the idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> >
> > You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is
the real Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable
in idiots. But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it.
I challenge you to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic
as you are. This is impossible.
> >
> > Love,
> > Ravi.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@
wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Â
> > >
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
> > >
> > >> But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> > >> accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> > >
> > >You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I
can't follow some of his posting, I understand his basic premise of
checking one's subjectivity against reality.
> > >And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel
diminishing returns set in.
> > >I am sorry I cannot afford you the same respect.Â
> > >Your agenda offers no benefit that I can see.
>

[FairfieldLife] Not that upset

[mjackson74]

Actually I am not that upset over the TMO now – it was getting me agitated when 
I saw D Lynch and his celebrity buddies touting TM along with John H. and 
Bobbie Roth going back to pre-sidhis PR for TM – simple, natural mental 
technique practiced 20 minutes twice a day" but now I realize that "but at the 
length truth will out." As said Launcelot in the Merchant of Venice.

I have not heard there was a rush of initiations after Oprah's endorsement of 
TM, and as the PR from Lynch and Associates continues those who start TM will 
soon discover what a whacked out bunch of guys run the TMO, if the TMO 
continues to exist in its present form. 

They will then choose to just do TM and ignore all the bangles, baubles and gew 
gaws the TMO wants them to buy or switch to a more sedate and less expensive 
alternative.

I expect the current legal and financial battle being waged in India by 
Maharishi's nephews and his other followers will soon spread to other countries 
and continents. 

Last I heard the land on which MUM sits and all the buildings are owned by the 
Maharishi Group – which of course is owned by his nephews. So if the pillaging 
they are doing in India doesn't net them enough dough don't be surprised if MUM 
goes on the auction block.

In ten or 20 years, there probably will no longer be a TMO and those of us old 
timers will be saying "'member when?"

Now if the TMO were to be taken over by someone like Barry, and he turned out 
King Tony, Bevan and the rest, deep sixed all the extraneous stuff that came 
after 1974 – in other words going back to just teaching plain old TM and 
demanding decent behavior and accountability from his teachers, I would be the 
first in line to go to group meditation. 

I would even go to Barry to get my meditation checked, as per advice from 
nablosuss.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[authfriend]

Boy, was I ever wrong. After her post-pastoral-counseling
post yesterday, I was sure her counselor had told her to
stop indulging in her Robin obsession on FFL, given how
wise and compassionate Share says she is.

No such luck.

She obviously didn't mean what she said in that post:

"Robin, I wish more peace and enjoyment for everyone on FFL.
To the best of my ability, given my limitations, etc.  I
will aim for that in my actions here, meaning in this and in
my future posts.  I also wish you more peace and enjoyment in
whatever course of action you choose."

Or is "given my limitations" her out on this, one of those
limitations being that she simply can't STFU about Robin,
despite her stated wish for more peace and enjoyment for him?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!  That bit 
> about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?  That otther bit about 
> how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!  If one simply removes 
> the word idiot, this post, even from the very first sentence, could have been 
> written by Robin: 
> 
> 
> You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally say 
> that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> 
> FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that Robin could 
> have written?!  
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
>  
> 
>   
> Dear Steve,
> 
> You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally say 
> - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an idiot.
> 
> I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you project and 
> act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even in your 
> clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> 
> Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent, logical, 
> rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is dominating you, 
> outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry. The problem I have is 
> forgetting that you are sui generis - no other idiot I have seen is as 
> fluidly and suavely consistent inside the idiotic, moronic self as you. The 
> neurotic and existential tendencies in the rest of us intelligent, sensitive 
> people, they will never touch you Steve - not at your core.
> 
> And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a connection 
> with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I doubt you have 
> ever established, or could establish, a relationship with another 
> intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can enter into your 
> idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally behave according to the 
> idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> 
> You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is the real 
> Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable in idiots. 
> But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it. I challenge you 
> to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic as you are. This is 
> impossible.
> 
> Love,
> Ravi.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1  wrote:
> 
>  
> >  
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> >> But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> >> accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> >
> >You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I can't follow some 
> >of his posting, I understand his basic premise of checking one's 
> >subjectivity against reality.
> >And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel diminishing 
> >returns set in.
> >I am sorry I cannot afford you the same respect.  
> >Your agenda offers no benefit that I can see.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With Meditation - YouTube

[Michael Jackson]

It may surprise some here but I agree with you (about the good its doing those 
who are stressed out)





 From: Rick Archer 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With 
Meditation - YouTube
 

  
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael Jackson
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:13 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With 
Meditation - YouTube
 
  
I think its a good thing for folks to meditate, as long as they don't do any of 
the other whacky stuff the TMO wants 'em to do, or if they choose another 
technique than TM. It still makes me laugh when I see David Lynch as poster 
child for TM and knowing he brags about TM giving him the creativity to make 
his films and also knowing that neither MUM nor any other TMO facility in the 
world will ever officially sanction or host a screening of Eraserhead, Twin 
Peaks or BLue Velvet.
 
And he still smokes after 40+ years of TM. But I honor him for the good he’s 
doing. These people are obviously benefitting profoundly.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[feste37]

It's not going to work, Share. Authfriend has no sense of humor. The last time 
she laughed was in nineteen seventy-nine, and the last smile appeared on her 
face in nineteen eighty-seven, give or take a year or two in both cases.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> dear Judy, I would like to answer your interesting question but unfortunately 
> I don't read your posts.  love, Share  
> PS  This is me channeling Ravi.  What do you think?  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:07 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I use homeopathic remedies for colds and they work really well.  The 
> > theory is that very minute amounts of the cause of an ailment are put into 
> > the body and then the body reacts by creating antidotes to that ailment.
> 
> Interesting. I wonder how they get the more than 200 virus
> types that cause colds into the remedy.
> 
>   
> > 
> > 
> > PS  I agree about Ravi inspiring Divine Compassion.  Even if he's now 
> > agin me (-:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: seventhray1 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:36 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > snip
> > > Personally I prefer homeopathic remedies and just take a drink
> > > of water when there's nothing wrong with me.
> > >
> > 
> > This company, Luyties,  used to our next store (business) neighbor, 
> > until they turned their building into residential.  
> > 
> > I wish understood homeopathy better.  
> > 
> > Lately, what I've read indicates the placebo effect is a strong part of it.
> > 
> > http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/luyties/
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
lurkernomore20002000@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Oh dear, Share. Are you sure you want to go there? Are you still
being
> > nudged from behind the curtain by your mentors? If you want to go to
the
> > heart of the issue (you had an opportunity yesterday) then by gum
woman,
> > go there. But stop beating around the stage scenery back there and
get
> > out under the flood lights.
> >
> > Hi Ann,
> > I need to consolidate my posts.
>
> Yes, at this rate you are going to post out! You were leading the pack
on amount of posts last time I looked. Good job!
>
> > Thank you for your goodwill expressed a post or so ago, even if it
came
> > with usual hedging and conditions.  It was at least somewhat more
> > generous than we usually see.
>
> I told you from the beginning that I liked you and I still do.
Although you sometimes come across a tad bufoonish I don't think you
have a mean bone in your body and I'll take non-violent over asshole any
day. So you just keep being you because although you sometimes slip on
that banana peel you never get up and kick the dog.
>
> > But I find this post here,  to Share to be missing the mark.
>
> That does not surprise me, oh white knight.
>
> > This charge that she is being aided and abetted from behind the
scenes I
> > think is being so overplayed.
>
> I actually don't. Everyone here thinks they are doing what is
right/appropriate/called for and LK is no exception. He truly believes,
I feel, that Share needs some guiding to counteract the "old Robin" and
while he thinks he is helping her I do not believe that he is. Share
likes this "help"I think you would have to admit, that it is an awful
lot of help he seems to have instilled in one offline post to Share.
and I believe she is highly suggestible given her penchant for all of
the disciplines and new age self-help subjects she dabbles in plusyes, I
think this is a miscalculation made by you and also some others
  - how easily and quickly she was influenced by the "Cult" book. She
seems not be alone in this.  Are you implying there should have been an
incubation period before reaching a conclusion?  I assume as she read
it, she came to certain conclusions.
It is not that the book was full of lies, it was factually very true,
but it is not relevant to what we are talking about at FFL todayYou
realize that this is only your opinion and not shared by most other
contributors.  I would have to call this the minority position.
  and for Share to pretend it is and to proceed to post comments and
analysis about Robin or cults or any of it is just laughable. It is
remarks like these that I find baffling.  And let's face it, we have the
input of four people here who were involved in Robin's cult, and only
you maintain this position.  Now if we take Judy's analysis, your take
is the most credible, and the other opinions are skewed.  But again,
this would be the minority position, and that others, who have come to
look at this in an impartial way come to the different conclusion.  But
of course here we come into an impasse.  Judy will dispute that someone
is indeed impartial, ladi da, ladi da.  You would think the matter would
come to rest as a mere difference of opinion.  But it doesn't see to
work that way does it.  Someone elses opinion is said to "laughable", or
skewed.  But as I've said, we have the input of four individuals, and
intelligent people will weigh the input and come to a conclusion.
It is like she took a two day course on how the brain works and she then
attempts brain surgery on day three.
If you say so.
>  I guess the assertion is that LK, is
> > somehow manipulating Share.
>
> I am not sure he means to be but the end result is that this is what
is happening. It is happening because of the type of nature she
possesses and her tendencies. But see below.
As I said before, he must be pretty influential to have this effect with
only one offline interaction.  Or else you seem to feel Share is just
that suggestible.  Problem is, Share is no pushover.
> > I think it has become a pretty lame charge, but perhaps one that
gives
> > you comfort rather than simply addressing what she says, or
recommending
> > that she not offer an opinion in the first place.
>
> Oh ho, Mr Steve, hold on one small tick. Me not addressing what she
says? I have done nothing but that from the beginning. I may seem like a
jerk in moments ( and believe me I am at times) but one thing I do not
do is avoid subjects, especially those I know a lot about or feel
strongly about. I have addressed everything that has come up with Share
and we have discoursed on many things over the past few months. Tell me
what I have avoided addressing with her. Also, show me where I told her
not to give her opinion. I love to hear other's opinions, often in the
conveying of the content you can 

RE: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With Meditation - YouTube

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael Jackson
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:13 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With 
Meditation - YouTube

 

  

I think its a good thing for folks to meditate, as long as they don't do any of 
the other whacky stuff the TMO wants 'em to do, or if they choose another 
technique than TM. It still makes me laugh when I see David Lynch as poster 
child for TM and knowing he brags about TM giving him the creativity to make 
his films and also knowing that neither MUM nor any other TMO facility in the 
world will ever officially sanction or host a screening of Eraserhead, Twin 
Peaks or BLue Velvet.

 

And he still smokes after 40+ years of TM. But I honor him for the good he’s 
doing. These people are obviously benefitting profoundly.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Michael Jackson]

If holding people accountable for their deeds and behavior gives me the 
consciousness of an amoeba, I willingly accept the label. 

It is preferable to saying "Oh, that one didn't work out either, must be 
somethin' subtle." or "Oh they aren't going to go any further with that project 
that Marshy said was so muy importante, well he's so enlightened he must 
see things we don't and knows in his enlightened consciousness that the project 
is unnecessary now." 

In such situations one of course does not ask for refunds for monies given for 
the now defunct project. 

But I am rambling as amoebas are often prone to do.





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Thanks I appreciate your saying this. I just like honesty, that's all - 

if the TMO came clean owned up to all the things the things they do, openly and 
honestly, I wouldn't have a word to say.

What I wonder about is why the TMO should let you know anything. Because even 
if they did you wouldn't be able to understand even a sparkle of the ideas. Do 
you remember the pearls before swine analogy ?  Being in a good mood today and 
granting you the benefit of the doubt, it's not because I consider you a pig, 
it's just that the qualifications for insights are not even dimly present.


>  From: awoelflebater 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:28 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
> 
> 
>   
> Michael, I read the website and your comments and I thought, like virtually 
> all of your writing here at FFL, that you state you case and your experiences 
> with utmost clarity and lack of reaction. I appreciate who you are and where 
> you're coming from to the extent that I can without really knowing you. Carry 
> on, you are simply speaking of your perceptions and conclusions and 
> experiences in a way which I find intelligent and worth considering.

Have you ever meditated with TM or spend time in the TMO ? If not, how on earth 
can you possibly have an opinion ? I usually don't have the time to read your 
posts here, but if they are equally unfounded what would be the reason to start 
?


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
I am sure this will sound arrogant to a TMO junkie, but I got over the need for 
getting my meditation "checked" when I left MIU in 1987 - 

Thanks, that was already well understood and explains your set-up.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With Meditation - YouTube

[Michael Jackson]

I think its a good thing for folks to meditate, as long as they don't do any of 
the other whacky stuff the TMO wants 'em to do, or if they choose another 
technique than TM. It still makes me laugh when I see David Lynch as poster 
child for TM and knowing he brags about TM giving him the creativity to make 
his films and also knowing that neither MUM nor any other TMO facility in the 
world will ever officially sanction or host a screening of Eraserhead, Twin 
Peaks or BLue Velvet.





 From: Rick Archer 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:07 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With Meditation 
- YouTube
 

  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6gM_sXiUPvo 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this a possible scientific explanation of "witnessing?"

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Life is improvisational jazz or "faking it" over patterns. ;-)
> 

Life is a hot pole dance.
http://youtu.be/6tu3BozTnKY


> On 11/19/2012 04:32 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > Fascinating study, a followup of a previous study in which
> > jazz musicians were given fMRI brain scans while improvising,
> > showing that they had lower activity in the frontal regions
> > of the brain responsible for planning and higher activity
> > in another frontal region more related to thought and action.
> >
> > When some rappers heard about the jazz study, they contacted
> > researchers and had their own brains scanned as they did
> > "freestyle rap," which is again a form of improvisation.
> > Again the same two areas showed differences in their normal
> > activity.
> >
> > The phrase that struck me was "It may explain why "many
> > artists describe the creative process as seemingly guided
> > by an outside agency."
> >
> > What if what mystics and yogis and bullshitters call
> > "witnessing" is just having the dorsolateral prefrontal
> > cortex switched off, depriving them of its "executive
> > functions?" They'd interpret this as "not the doer."
> >
> > http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-11/16/freestyle-rapping-brain-scans
> >
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I use homeopathic remedies for colds and they work really well.  The 
> > theory is that very minute amounts of the cause of an ailment are put into 
> > the body and then the body reacts by creating antidotes to that ailment.
> 
> Interesting. I wonder how they get the more than 200 virus
> types that cause colds into the remedy.

>From what I understand they use the opposite of the cold, or
rather something that makes you feel the opposite sorts of
things you feel when you have a cold. That's what gets
diluted until there's none of it left, but luckily the solution
is banged on a bible (or other hard but yielding surface)
which is what makes the water remember. 

It's all so weird I feel like I dreamt it but I've read books
about it to check. Apparently at homeopathy HQ they have classical music 
synthesised into treatments because Bach made an early 
homeopath feel better when he got stung by a bee or something. I
gave up at that point. It's a placebo guys, no matter how good it makes you 
feel and the weird thing about placebos is they work 
even if you know they are!


> > PS  I agree about Ravi inspiring Divine Compassion.  Even if he's now 
> > agin me (-:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: seventhray1 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:36 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > snip
> > > Personally I prefer homeopathic remedies and just take a drink
> > > of water when there's nothing wrong with me.
> > >
> > 
> > This company, Luyties,  used to our next store (business) neighbor, until 
> > they turned their building into residential.  
> > 
> > I wish understood homeopathy better.  
> > 
> > Lately, what I've read indicates the placebo effect is a strong part of it.
> > 
> > http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/luyties/
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Michael Jackson]

I don't believe I have blamed anyone in the TMO for anything - but I am willing 
to call them on their crap-ola when I see it - I am sure this will sound 
arrogant to a TMO junkie, but I got over the need for getting my meditation 
"checked" when I left MIU in 1987 - how many other meditation pathways tell you 
to get your meditation checked?

So we both know that no matter what I say you are gonna still turn a blind eye 
to the excesses and ridiculous behavior of the TMO as well as the many many 
many unfulfilled promises of Maharishi, the fact that he told lies about being 
celibate and about what he was using everyone's money for.

And no matter what you say I will never give myself over to a group who walk 
around feeling holier than everyone else by virtue of having paid a million 
bucks for face time with a man who I think will go down in history as the most 
successful con artist of the 20th Century. I mean, he had a 54 year run, made 
over 3 billion dollars, was adored and treated like the second coming by 
thousands of people, increased the con over the years with increasingly absurd 
aspects of the original con (here I mean the sidhis as original con cuz as I 
have stated before. I do think the basic meditation technique he taught is 
beneficial, no more so than any other mind you), tho he did tell a few fibs 
about the TM technique itself like it has no side effects (heavy unstressing on 
rounding courses anyone?) it is more effective than other meditations and that 
it only takes 3-5 years of TM to achieve enlightenment.

So yeah he was pretty successful. Now if you have deigned to read this far, I 
wanna ask you an honest question. If you worked for a person who was running a 
successful business that helped people to some extent in their lives and 
discovered that he and his, let's say nephews, who ran the company with him 
were misusing funds, taking money under false pretenses and using his position 
to seduce women and telling a certain number of lies in order to keep his 
business going, would you continue to support him and work for his company, 
knowing that as you did so, you would still be helping people to some extent 
even while helping him to perpetrate a con artist deal on the public at the 
same time?

I





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:47 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Having read your comments and meditated on them I must say I am actually 
> happy with myself for asking these people who have made a lifestyle out of 
> lying to stop doing so. 

Anyone with as much vitriol as this display has some serious issues to resolve 
within himself. Blaming others won't help; get a checking.


 

[FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation: Changing Lives With Meditation - YouTube

[Rick Archer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded

&v=6gM_sXiUPvo 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Your fav MAV product?

[Bhairitu]

On 11/19/2012 12:50 AM, card wrote:
> What, if any, is your favorite MAV product? :o
>
>

Haven't bought MAV products in years.  Learned to create a lot of those 
infusions and such myself.  Some of the local Indian grocers have $6 
bottles of ayurvedic products that work well.  And I still have a 
hole-in-the-wall health food store nearby with a large selection of 
supplements including ayurvedic ones.  They used to even stock some of 
the MAV products before their wholesaler stopped carrying them.

Favorite?  Ayurveda is using what works not about a "favorite" product.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Thanks I appreciate your saying this. I just like honesty, that's all - 

if the TMO came clean owned up to all the things the things they do, openly and 
honestly, I wouldn't have a word to say.


What I wonder about is why the TMO should let you know anything. Because even 
if they did you wouldn't be able to understand even a sparkle of the ideas. Do 
you remember the pearls before swine analogy ?  Being in a good mood today and 
granting you the benefit of the doubt, it's not because I consider you a pig, 
it's just that the qualifications for insights are not even dimly present.


>  From: awoelflebater 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:28 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
>  
> 
>   
> Michael, I read the website and your comments and I thought, like virtually 
> all of your writing here at FFL, that you state you case and your experiences 
> with utmost clarity and lack of reaction. I appreciate who you are and where 
> you're coming from to the extent that I can without really knowing you. Carry 
> on, you are simply speaking of your perceptions and conclusions and 
> experiences in a way which I find intelligent and worth considering.


Have you ever meditated with TM or spend time in the TMO ? If not, how on earth 
can you possibly have an opinion ? I usually don't have the time to read your 
posts here, but if they are equally unfounded what would be the reason to start 
?

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Having read your comments and meditated on them I must say I am actually 
> happy with myself for asking these people who have made a lifestyle out of 
> lying to stop doing so. 


Anyone with as much vitriol as this display has some serious issues to resolve 
within himself. Blaming others won't help; get a checking.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this a possible scientific explanation of "witnessing?"

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Life is improvisational jazz or "faking it" over patterns. ;-)

That seems to be the gist of it. Turn off the "executive
functions" of the brain (otherwise known as ego), and the 
rest of it seems to be capable of actually being...uh...
creative. Leave them in place as "watcher," and not a
chance. :-)

There is a very real possibility that someday science will
prove that an inability to riff improvisationally is a
significant indicator of an oversized ego. 

Speaking of science, those talking about their various flu
and cold remedies might want to check out this study, in
which it seems to have been established that meditation can
prevent episodes of colds and the flu. 

Of course it's *mindfulness meditation* that does this. :-)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/14/meditation-flu-cold-symptoms-mindfulness-exercise_n_1671543.html

> On 11/19/2012 04:32 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > Fascinating study, a followup of a previous study in which
> > jazz musicians were given fMRI brain scans while improvising,
> > showing that they had lower activity in the frontal regions
> > of the brain responsible for planning and higher activity
> > in another frontal region more related to thought and action.
> >
> > When some rappers heard about the jazz study, they contacted
> > researchers and had their own brains scanned as they did
> > "freestyle rap," which is again a form of improvisation.
> > Again the same two areas showed differences in their normal
> > activity.
> >
> > The phrase that struck me was "It may explain why "many
> > artists describe the creative process as seemingly guided
> > by an outside agency."
> >
> > What if what mystics and yogis and bullshitters call
> > "witnessing" is just having the dorsolateral prefrontal
> > cortex switched off, depriving them of its "executive
> > functions?" They'd interpret this as "not the doer."
> >
> > http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-11/16/freestyle-rapping-brain-scans
> >
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Lies, Dirty Tricks and $45 Million Kill GMO Labeling in California

[nablusoss1008]

Lies, Dirty Tricks and $45 Million Kill GMO Labeling in California
California's Proposition 37, which would have required labeling of GMO
foods, died a painful death Tuesday night. Despite polling in
mid-September showing an overwhelming lead, the measure lost
  by 53 to 47 percent,
which is relatively close considering the "No" side's tactics.

As I've been writing
  about, the
opposition has waged a deceptive and ugly campaign, fueled
  by more than $45 million, mostly from the leading biotech,
pesticide, and junk food companies. Meanwhile, the "Yes" side raised
almost $9 million, which is not bad, but being outspent by a factor of
five is tough to overcome.

While we can always expect industry to spend more, the various groups
fighting GMOs for years probably could have been better coordinated. I
was dismayed and confused by all the fundraising emails I received from
different nonprofits on Prop 37 and wondered why they weren't pooling
their resources.

But would more money and better strategy have made a difference? Given
the opposition's tactics, it seems unlikely. I am not easily shocked by
corporate shenanigans, but the "No on 37" campaign is my new poster
child for propaganda and dirty tricks. It's worth recapping the most
egregious examples 
.

Lying in the California voter guide: The "No" campaign listed four
organizations in the official state document
 
mailed to voters as concluding that "biotech foods are safe." One of
them, the American Council on Science and Health, is a notorious
industry front group
  that only sounds legit. Another, the Academy of Nutrition
and Dietetics, actually has no position and complained
 
about being listed. (I was attending the group's annual meeting when
this came to light and promptly notified the "Yes" campaign, but the
damage was already done.) The other two organizations, the National
Academy of Sciences and the World Health Organization, in fact have more
nuanced positions on GMOs than just "safe."

Misuse of a federal seal and quoting the Food and Drug Administration:
This one caused even my jaded draw to drop. In a mailer
  sent to California voters, the
"No" campaign printed the following text along side the FDA logo: "The
US Food and Drug Administration says a labeling policy like Prop 37
would be "inherently misleading." That is exactly how they wrote it,
with the incorrectly placed quotation marks. How can a $45 million
campaign make a mistake like that? They can't; it's deliberately
confusing. It also may even be a violation
  of criminal law to use a
federal seal in this manner. I am told that some California voters were
fooled into thinking FDA opposed the measure. Of course, that was the
idea.

Misrepresenting academic affiliation: More than once, the "No" campaign
gave the false impression that its go-to expert Henry Miller
  was a
professor at Stanford University, in violation the school's own policy.
(In fact, he's with the Hoover Institute, housed on the Stanford
campus.) Only when Stanford complained
  did the "No" campaign edit the TV
ad, but many already saw it, and then they repeated
  the lie in a
mailer.

Deploying unfounded scare tactics: I fully expected the "No" side to use
distracting arguments to scare voters while ignoring the merits of
issue. But it took this common industry strategy to new heights, making
wild claims   about higher food prices,
"shakedown lawsuits," and "special interest exemptions." While each of
these claims is easily debunked, being outspent on ad dollars makes it
hard to compete, especially when all you can really say is, "that's not
true."

Additional lies and dirty tricks: 1) claiming the San Francisco Examiner
recommended a "no" vote when in fact the paper endorsed
  "yes"; 2) putting up
  doctors and academic experts on the dole

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is this a possible scientific explanation of "witnessing?"

[Bhairitu]

Life is improvisational jazz or "faking it" over patterns. ;-)

On 11/19/2012 04:32 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> Fascinating study, a followup of a previous study in which
> jazz musicians were given fMRI brain scans while improvising,
> showing that they had lower activity in the frontal regions
> of the brain responsible for planning and higher activity
> in another frontal region more related to thought and action.
>
> When some rappers heard about the jazz study, they contacted
> researchers and had their own brains scanned as they did
> "freestyle rap," which is again a form of improvisation.
> Again the same two areas showed differences in their normal
> activity.
>
> The phrase that struck me was "It may explain why "many
> artists describe the creative process as seemingly guided
> by an outside agency."
>
> What if what mystics and yogis and bullshitters call
> "witnessing" is just having the dorsolateral prefrontal
> cortex switched off, depriving them of its "executive
> functions?" They'd interpret this as "not the doer."
>
> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-11/16/freestyle-rapping-brain-scans
>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Massive layoffs

[Bhairitu]

Or gee, maybe the economy "really is bad" instead of believing what the 
mainstream news says about it? It's that time of year again when you're 
supposed to spend money you don't have to buy gifts for people who don't 
need them all just to make sure that some poorly run big businesses 
don't collapse.  Some of us weren't born yesterday.

On my trip to India I sat next to an Ivy league college business school 
professor.  He told me that most of his students weren't that good.  
Guess so, because some of his student undoubtedly run some of these 
companies.  So they're laying off people so they can collect their year 
end mega-bonus.

Then there were the absurd pension plans agreed to that keep paying the 
recipient in retirement what they made when working. How can that work?  
A pension should assure that they don't have to live entirely on SS and 
also stay out of the poorhouse but not own a mac-mansion and a condo in 
the tropics.

And big business had their chance with health care.  They should have 
just supported single payer.  Medicare for everyone.  Oh but, gee then 
their doctor would quit.  Well maybe we ought to open up medical schools 
more and graduate many times more doctors.

Then maybe there is only enough work for so many people.  Maybe time for 
a leisure society.  Pay everyone a stipend so they don't fall through 
the cracks or start selling crack.  Such a "liberal" idea except that it 
was last floated by the Nixon administration.


On 11/19/2012 12:16 AM, seekliberation wrote:
> And this is only the beginning.  From my understanding, it's not all just due 
> to Obamacare, it's also due to union demands that are unable to be met.  
> Businesses simply can't survive.  For some odd reason, if I google Obama's 
> reaction to this, nothing comes up.  At first, I assumed this is just a 
> right-wing reaction to the election.  But with this many companies, some of 
> which i'm sure lean democrat/liberal, it's not just a right wing reaction, 
> especially when MSNBC (one of Obama's major promoters) is laying off 500 
> employees.
>
> seekliberation
>
>
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[Share Long]

dear Judy, I would like to answer your interesting question but unfortunately I 
don't read your posts.  love, Share  
PS  This is me channeling Ravi.  What do you think?  





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I use homeopathic remedies for colds and they work really well.  The theory 
> is that very minute amounts of the cause of an ailment are put into the body 
> and then the body reacts by creating antidotes to that ailment.

Interesting. I wonder how they get the more than 200 virus
types that cause colds into the remedy.

  
> 
> 
> PS  I agree about Ravi inspiring Divine Compassion.  Even if he's now agin 
> me (-:
> 
> 
> 
>  From: seventhray1 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:36 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> snip
> > Personally I prefer homeopathic remedies and just take a drink
> > of water when there's nothing wrong with me.
> >
> 
> This company, Luyties,  used to our next store (business) neighbor, until 
> they turned their building into residential.  
> 
> I wish understood homeopathy better.  
> 
> Lately, what I've read indicates the placebo effect is a strong part of it.
> 
> http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/luyties/
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Human SETI Program

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Millions of dollars have been spent to search for extraterrestrial 
> intelligence.  So far, the scientists who are involved in this search have 
> not found any such evidence of extraterrestrials.  However, if we use the 
> ancient science of jyotish for this effort, we will find that life here on 
> earth is the evidence of the Intelligence in the universe.

The thing about *extra*terrestrial intelligence is that it
isn't on earth. We don't need jyotish to tell us that intelligence
is possible in the universe, we need to know if it actually has
happened elsewhere.

 
> Specifically, all of life here on earth can be categorized to reflect 
> Intelligence from 27 sectors of the universe.  These sectors are called 
> nakshatras in jyotish.  As such, human consciousness is similarly affected by 
> the influences of the various nakshatras.
> 
> In brief, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence ends with the human 
> beings here on earth.

For you perhaps, it answers nothing about life here or elsewhere
for me. And there wouldn't be anything other than single cells floating about 
here if there hadn't been an accident 2 billion years ago where one lot of 
bacteria invaded another. What are the chances 
of that happening twice? How many other ways are there of life evolving, is it 
none or trillions? And how many of those ways can
end uup with something sentient? No-one knows, we just assume that
as it happened here it could happen everywhere. We could be all alone John
 
> JR
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Share Long]

ahem, and my other question?  You know the one about the more evolved action of 
simply stating your opinion and then moving on?  Would you say you have done 
that with regards to your opinions about the TMO?


As for my character, I think being on FFL has actually strengthened it, thank 
you.  I've stood up for what I think is right.  My reputation might be a bit 
more tarnished than it was.  I can live with that.

to Jason:  not sure what you meant by the impersonal level when you said:  On 
an impersonal level, he is right.


 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> I think he is talking about certain other people Share and 
> not himself.

Just to be clear, I definitely include myself in the
list of lamos who read this forum. :-) The only excuse
I can come up with for it is that like Bhairitu I do
it mainly for entertainment; his characterization of
this place as the "Funny Farm Lounge" has never been
more accurate than in recent days. 

Then again, I also admit to occasionally watching *other*
soap operas, such as the popular American TV show "Revenge."
I find that they give me insights into the mass mindset
of Americans, and the silly things they obsess over. 

In particular, if Share is wondering whether I consider
her as much of an attention-seeking Drama Queen as the
others participating in embarrassing ego-dance, my answer 
is an unqualified "Yes." She's doing as much as anyone 
else to perpetuate it. In my experience, nothing erodes 
a person's character or reputation more quickly and 
effectively than constantly feeling the need to defend it. 

> On an impersonal level, he is right.
> 
> 
> ---  Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > yoohoo!  Weren't you praying yesterday that the Robin 
> > topics would disappear?!  I guess you were really praying 
> > that you could have the last word on it.
> > Whoops!  You might have to post again I guess.  
> > 
> > And do you include yourself in what you called the couple 
> > of dozen people lame enough to read this forum?!
> > 
> > And do you think that you have done what you call the more 
> > evolved action of simply stating your opinion and then 
> > moving on?  Do you think you have done that with regards 
> > to the TMO?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: turquoiseb 
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:53 AM
> > 
> > It's the same IMO with all of the egos involved in all 
> > this posturing and arguing. Almost no one on the planet
> > other than a couple of dozen people lame enough to read
> > this forum will ever know anything about the people
> > themselves, or ever care to. It's a bunch of nobodies
> > arguing with other nobodies about their supposed 
> > somebodyness. 
> > 
> > People have tried to demonize "drive bys" on this forum,
> > as if simply stating one's opinion and moving on is
> > a Bad Thing. I suspect it's a more highly evolved thing.
> > You just say what you think and stay out of the shit.
> > 
> > Let those who enjoy wallowing in shit do that.
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I use homeopathic remedies for colds and they work really well.  The theory 
> is that very minute amounts of the cause of an ailment are put into the body 
> and then the body reacts by creating antidotes to that ailment.

Interesting. I wonder how they get the more than 200 virus
types that cause colds into the remedy.


  
> 
> 
> PS  I agree about Ravi inspiring Divine Compassion.  Even if he's now agin 
> me (-:
> 
> 
> 
>  From: seventhray1 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:36 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
>  
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> snip
> > Personally I prefer homeopathic remedies and just take a drink
> > of water when there's nothing wrong with me.
> >
> 
> This company, Luyties,  used to our next store (business) neighbor, until 
> they turned their building into residential.  
> 
> I wish understood homeopathy better.  
> 
> Lately, what I've read indicates the placebo effect is a strong part of it.
> 
> http://www.1-800homeopathy.com/luyties/
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
> wrote:
> 
> > Oh dear, Share. Are you sure you want to go there? Are you still being
> nudged from behind the curtain by your mentors? If you want to go to the
> heart of the issue (you had an opportunity yesterday) then by gum woman,
> go there. But stop beating around the stage scenery back there and get
> out under the flood lights.
> 
> Hi Ann,
> I need to consolidate my posts.

Yes, at this rate you are going to post out! You were leading the pack on 
amount of posts last time I looked. Good job!

> Thank you for your goodwill expressed a post or so ago, even if it came
> with usual hedging and conditions.  It was at least somewhat more
> generous than we usually see.

I told you from the beginning that I liked you and I still do. Although you 
sometimes come across a tad bufoonish I don't think you have a mean bone in 
your body and I'll take non-violent over asshole any day. So you just keep 
being you because although you sometimes slip on that banana peel you never get 
up and kick the dog.

> But I find this post here,  to Share to be missing the mark.

That does not surprise me, oh white knight.

> This charge that she is being aided and abetted from behind the scenes I
> think is being so overplayed. 

I actually don't. Everyone here thinks they are doing what is 
right/appropriate/called for and LK is no exception. He truly believes, I feel, 
that Share needs some guiding to counteract the "old Robin" and while he thinks 
he is helping her I do not believe that he is. Share likes this "help" and I 
believe she is highly suggestible given her penchant for all of the disciplines 
and new age self-help subjects she dabbles in plus - how easily and quickly she 
was influenced by the "Cult" book. It is not that the book was full of lies, it 
was factually very true, but it is not relevant to what we are talking about at 
FFL today and for Share to pretend it is and to proceed to post comments and 
analysis about Robin or cults or any of it is just laughable. It is like she 
took a two day course on how the brain works and she then attempts brain 
surgery on day three. 
  
 I guess the assertion is that LK, is
> somehow manipulating Share.

I am not sure he means to be but the end result is that this is what is 
happening. It is happening because of the type of nature she possesses and her 
tendencies. But see below.

> I think it has become a pretty lame charge, but perhaps one that gives
> you comfort rather than simply addressing what she says, or recommending
> that she not offer an opinion in the first place.

Oh ho, Mr Steve, hold on one small tick. Me not addressing what she says? I 
have done nothing but that from the beginning. I may seem like a jerk in 
moments ( and believe me I am at times) but one thing I do not do is avoid 
subjects, especially those I know a lot about or feel strongly about. I have 
addressed everything that has come up with Share and we have discoursed on many 
things over the past few months. Tell me what I have avoided addressing with 
her. Also, show me where I told her not to give her opinion. I love to hear 
other's opinions, often in the conveying of the content you can learn even more 
about people by how/why and when they convey it.

> Maybe consider that one finger point out, three finger pointing back
> thingy.

I don't know what that is, but I do know what a cat whistle is now.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve to AWB and Richard

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> dear Annie Get Your Gun, I'll bring quinoa salad and guacamole and pasta 
> pesto and asparagus spread to the do.  All organic of course!  And I'll 
> even let you have some if you want.
> 
> Meanwhile, please have a chat with Raunchy.  She talking about b***s in
>  mouths again.  And I don't think she means ping pong balls if you know what 
> I mean.  She said something similar when she and Mike were in a political 
> kafufel, seems like so long ago.  Now she's quoting Woody Allen movies about 
> same.  One would think she's got a fixation on such.  Very
>  curious.
> 
> Anyway, the heart of the matter, the heart of the matter.  I suggest you and 
> Raunchy scour the archives, Judy can help with that, and read all my mushy 
> and or torrid poems to merudanda.  Then perhaps you all will get to the 
> genuine heart of the matter between me and Robin.  Yes indeedy. 
> 
> BTW, I've just seen Steve's post and so will mention that Lord Knows has only 
> emailed me offline one time.  
> 
>  Richard, I've just seen a post from Michael about the Balls so it is now 
> official:  today it's all about b***s.  
> 
> 

http://youtu.be/FOQ8X5R5yio
 
> 
>  From: awoelflebater 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:43 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!  That bit 
> > about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?  That otther bit 
> > about how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!  If one simply 
> > removes the word idiot, this post, even from the very first sentence, could 
> > have been written by Robin: 
> > 
> > 
> > You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally 
> > say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > 
> > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that Robin 
> > could have written?!  
> 
> Oh dear, Share. Are you sure you want to go there? Are you still being nudged 
> from behind the curtain by your mentors? If you want to go to the heart of 
> the issue (you had an opportunity yesterday) then by gum woman, go there. But 
> stop beating around the stage scenery back there and get out under the flood 
> lights. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Dear Steve,
> > 
> > You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally 
> > say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an idiot.
> > 
> > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you project 
> > and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even in your 
> > clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > 
> > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent, 
> > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is 
> > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry. The 
> > problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other idiot I 
> > have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the idiotic, moronic 
> > self as you. The neurotic and existential tendencies in the rest of us 
> > intelligent, sensitive people, they will never touch you Steve - not at 
> > your core.
> > 
> > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a connection 
> > with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I doubt you have 
> > ever established, or could establish, a relationship with another 
> > intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can enter into 
> > your idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally behave according 
> > to the idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> > 
> > You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is the 
> > real Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable in 
> > idiots. But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it. I 
> > challenge you to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic as you 
> > are. This is impossible.
> > 
> > Love,
> > Ravi.
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > >  
> > >
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > >> But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> > >> accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> > >
> > >You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I can't follow 
> > >some of his posting, I understand his basic premise of checking one's 
> > >subjectivity against reality.
> > >And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel diminishing 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Having read your comments and meditated on them I must say I am actually 
> happy with myself for asking these people who have made a lifestyle out of 
> lying to stop doing so. 

Well said, I think Hagelin should hand back his PHD and stop
using it as a plea to authority because people take that
stuff seriously. Trust me, a quantum physicist doing a rain dance
means *nothing* scientifically. You know that but a lot of
people in the TMO take him seriously because he used to work at 
CERN they think his opinion on everything is more likely to be 
right as long as he dresses it up with a bit of quark-babble. 

Like in his Physics of yogic flying lecture where he claims 
hopping up and down is caused by altering the position of 
particles at the quantum level and thus statistically altering 
the likelihood of gravity working in its familiar way. Uh huh.

 
> All I want is for the general public who are currently being blitzed and 
> deliberately so with a great deal of la la la 
> everything-about-TM-is-swell-sweet-and-good deserve to know what kind of 
> people they are dealing with.
> 
> It is rather typical of TM apologists to accuse people of "unstressing" when 
> they are merely stating facts the TMO doesn't want to admit to. Unstressing, 
> you know, the phenomenon that David Spector and Tammy on the cardio blog 
> won't admit exists?


 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:41 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Whether you and other TM apologists like it or not, if you want the general 
> > public to dote on TM like you do, you are going to have to deal with the 
> > baggage the Movement has generated for nearly 60 years - you can't expect 
> > this info to be taken in a vacuum - as in pay attention to what we tell you 
> > to pay attention to, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. 
> > 
> > I don't rant 
> 
> Even compared to the colourful persona on this forum you are unusually full 
> of your self and obsessed with your own unstressing.
> 
> - I want people to have the full picture, 
> 
> Which you are not even close to be able to give. Have a reality check, or 
> even better; have your meditation checked.
>

[FairfieldLife] If you can say a few words and get someone angry, you might be a yogi

[Duveyoung]

If you can say a few words and get someone angry, you might be a yogi.

Yogis are famous for producing extraordinary experiences in the minds of 
others. They'll bonk ya with a peacock feather on your forehead and send you 
into a bliss-coma. Like that.

But consider that even the most ordinary of folks can piss others off almost 
without effort. We all know the MAGICAL WORDS NEEDED TO CREATE HUGE CHANGES IN 
THE MINDS OF OTHERS.

That's real power, and we all have it at the ready on our mental hips like 
gunslingers packing iron. 

A yogi would advise us to add to our tool kit and try to find ways to create 
tsunamis of clarity and love in the minds of others, but the yogi would have to 
admit that, yep, getting another person angry is as much of a yogic feat as 
any. 

We're all spell casters. We're all stage magicians that can cloud the minds of 
anyone. 

Yep, I'm a yogi, you're a yogi.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Michael Jackson]

Isn't that the whole point to doing TM?





 From: feste37 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  
I guessed it. What this is all about is making yourself happy. Thanks for 
letting us know. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Having read your comments and meditated on them I must say I am actually 
> happy with myself for asking these people who have made a lifestyle out of 
> lying to stop doing so. 
> 
> All I want is for the general public who are currently being blitzed and 
> deliberately so with a great deal of la la la 
> everything-about-TM-is-swell-sweet-and-good deserve to know what kind of 
> people they are dealing with.
> 
> It is rather typical of TM apologists to accuse people of "unstressing" when 
> they are merely stating facts the TMO doesn't want to admit to. Unstressing, 
> you know, the phenomenon that David Spector and Tammy on the cardio blog 
> won't admit exists? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:41 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Whether you and other TM apologists like it or not, if you want the general 
> > public to dote on TM like you do, you are going to have to deal with the 
> > baggage the Movement has generated for nearly 60 years - you can't expect 
> > this info to be taken in a vacuum - as in pay attention to what we tell you 
> > to pay attention to, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. 
> > 
> > I don't rant 
> 
> Even compared to the colourful persona on this forum you are unusually full 
> of your self and obsessed with your own unstressing.
> 
> - I want people to have the full picture, 
> 
> Which you are not even close to be able to give. Have a reality check, or 
> even better; have your meditation checked.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

Ravi,

You keep posting this.  I understand it may represent the high water mark for, 
your whole life even?

Now, turn away for a moment.

(hey everybody, maybe we can all pitch in and have an engraved plaque that we 
present to Ravi at Ann's do. There is an engraver down the street from me who 
does good work. Let me know, and I can arrange it)

Okay, turn back around Ravi. Best to you today kind sir.  May the wind be at 
your back, and all that. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Oh dear Share - yes indeed it is - the words are plagiarized from 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/294241
> 
> I got sick and tired of Steve posts yet I didn't want to spend too much time 
> on him.
> 
> Now please talk to him - he's going paranoid and hysterical.
> 
> Love,
> Ravi
> 
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Share Long  wrote:
> 
> > dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!  That bit 
> > about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?  That otther bit about 
> > how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!  If one simply removes 
> > the word idiot, this post, even from the very first sentence, could have 
> > been written by Robin: 
> > 
> > You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally 
> > say that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> > 
> > FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that Robin 
> > could have written?!  
> > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> > 
> >  
> > Dear Steve,
> > 
> > You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally 
> > say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an idiot.
> > 
> > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you project 
> > and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even in your 
> > clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > 
> > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent, 
> > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is 
> > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry. The 
> > problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other idiot I 
> > have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the idiotic, moronic 
> > self as you. The neurotic and existential tendencies in the rest of us 
> > intelligent, sensitive people, they will never touch you Steve - not at 
> > your core.
> > 
> > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a connection 
> > with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I doubt you have 
> > ever established, or could establish, a relationship with another 
> > intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can enter into 
> > your idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally behave according 
> > to the idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> > 
> > You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is the 
> > real Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable in 
> > idiots. But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it. I 
> > challenge you to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic as you 
> > are. This is impossible.
> > 
> > Love,
> > Ravi.
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1  
> > wrote:
> >  
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > 
> > > But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> > > accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> > 
> > You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I can't follow some 
> > of his posting, I understand his basic premise of checking one's 
> > subjectivity against reality.
> > And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel diminishing 
> > returns set in.
> > I am sorry I cannot afford you the same respect. 
> > Your agenda offers no benefit that I can see.
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:

> LK lurks behind the scenes hedging conditions more generous than
usual, pointing *three* fingers at his thingy.
>
An important task like this should not be left to a mere three fingers. 
You will not get full effect.  But I have not been in this business for
some time.
Perhaps Ravi might have more recent practice with this.

Re: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[Ravi Chivukula]

Oh dear Share - yes indeed it is - the words are plagiarized from 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/294241

I got sick and tired of Steve posts yet I didn't want to spend too much time on 
him.

Now please talk to him - he's going paranoid and hysterical.

Love,
Ravi

On Nov 19, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Share Long  wrote:

> dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!  That bit 
> about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?  That otther bit about how 
> no human being can enter into Steve's context?!  If one simply removes the 
> word idiot, this post, even from the very first sentence, could have been 
> written by Robin: 
> 
> You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally say 
> that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> 
> FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that Robin could 
> have written?!  
> From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> 
>  
> Dear Steve,
> 
> You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally say 
> - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an idiot.
> 
> I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you project and 
> act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even in your 
> clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> 
> Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent, logical, 
> rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is dominating you, 
> outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry. The problem I have is 
> forgetting that you are sui generis - no other idiot I have seen is as 
> fluidly and suavely consistent inside the idiotic, moronic self as you. The 
> neurotic and existential tendencies in the rest of us intelligent, sensitive 
> people, they will never touch you Steve - not at your core.
> 
> And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a connection 
> with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I doubt you have 
> ever established, or could establish, a relationship with another 
> intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can enter into your 
> idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally behave according to the 
> idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> 
> You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is the real 
> Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable in idiots. 
> But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it. I challenge you 
> to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic as you are. This is 
> impossible.
> 
> Love,
> Ravi.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1  
> wrote:
>  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> > accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> 
> You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I can't follow some of 
> his posting, I understand his basic premise of checking one's subjectivity 
> against reality.
> And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel diminishing 
> returns set in.
> I am sorry I cannot afford you the same respect. 
> Your agenda offers no benefit that I can see.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[feste37]

I guessed it. What this is all about is making yourself happy. Thanks for 
letting us know. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Having read your comments and meditated on them I must say I am actually 
> happy with myself for asking these people who have made a lifestyle out of 
> lying to stop doing so. 
> 
> All I want is for the general public who are currently being blitzed and 
> deliberately so with a great deal of la la la 
> everything-about-TM-is-swell-sweet-and-good deserve to know what kind of 
> people they are dealing with.
> 
> It is rather typical of TM apologists to accuse people of "unstressing" when 
> they are merely stating facts the TMO doesn't want to admit to. Unstressing, 
> you know, the phenomenon that David Spector and Tammy on the cardio blog 
> won't admit exists? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:41 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Whether you and other TM apologists like it or not, if you want the general 
> > public to dote on TM like you do, you are going to have to deal with the 
> > baggage the Movement has generated for nearly 60 years - you can't expect 
> > this info to be taken in a vacuum - as in pay attention to what we tell you 
> > to pay attention to, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. 
> > 
> > I don't rant 
> 
> Even compared to the colourful persona on this forum you are unusually full 
> of your self and obsessed with your own unstressing.
> 
> - I want people to have the full picture, 
> 
> Which you are not even close to be able to give. Have a reality check, or 
> even better; have your meditation checked.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is this a possible scientific explanation of "witnessing?"

[Duveyoung]

Witnessing seems to be "toggling into the non-conceptual."  

Naming and blaming -- an old story of the intellect. We give false power to 
objects of consciousness -- assigning them attributes willy-nilly and then 
expecting them to stay within the limits we've set for them.  As if.   

But miss not also that the heart of the bhakti also conceptualizes in order to 
"make worship justifiable." 

Both sides of the yinyang are immersed in the false notion of causality being 
actual instead of all activity being ruled by moment-by-moment synchronicity. 
The most powerful truths of physics turn out to be illusions when it is 
discovered that God doesn't have to obey any rules.  Natural law is derived 
anew instant by instant depending on the yuga and whether or not God has his 
coffee that morning.

Witnessing is better described as seeing "nothingness doing everything" than it 
is about seeing a "me" that is "doing nothing."  

It's primal -- there can be no understanding of it -- "karma is unfathomable" 
-- every moment is purely mystical.  Pure uncertainty about everything.  The 
intellect can become humble if it can realize that it is blind and sees but 
nearby horizons.  The heart can learn that it is a "pride trap" to insist on 
worship being the soul's dharma -- it can discover that a soul cannot be united 
with the godhead as long as it insists on the individuality of the worshiper. 

If you can look at a rock and then at your body and see them as equally 
ephemeral, you might be witnessing.

When you wake up from a great dream in which you were a king with wondrous 
riches etc., you get a taste of relative witnessing in that the king, the 
throne upon which he sat, the air he breathed are all recognized as illusory 
and, well, WORTHLESS!  One doesn't long for a return to ones kingly "previous 
incarnation," right?  

To me witnessing has to have that dynamic of everything being of "one piece" 
and spontaneously derived from one source like a dreamworld is.  Seeing thusly, 
witnessing thusly, the awakened dreamer now cannot be bribed into assuming 
"kingship" to be the sole residence of identification.  The whole dream is seen 
as "holodeck."  

In that scenario, THEN, to have the intellect "tranked down" and have the brain 
"free styling," the yogi will witness that without prejudice too -- a brain 
working is a brain working no matter the mode it is in at any given instant.  

These free stylists are NOT dissolving the bonds of attachment to the 
productions in the mind.  They're still feeling themselves to be authors of 
their minds -- even if they're asserting that they are in a special mode in 
which spontaneity comes into a leadership role.  

Edg

 





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Fascinating study, a followup of a previous study in which
> jazz musicians were given fMRI brain scans while improvising,
> showing that they had lower activity in the frontal regions
> of the brain responsible for planning and higher activity
> in another frontal region more related to thought and action.
> 
> When some rappers heard about the jazz study, they contacted
> researchers and had their own brains scanned as they did
> "freestyle rap," which is again a form of improvisation. 
> Again the same two areas showed differences in their normal
> activity. 
> 
> The phrase that struck me was "It may explain why "many 
> artists describe the creative process as seemingly guided 
> by an outside agency."
> 
> What if what mystics and yogis and bullshitters call 
> "witnessing" is just having the dorsolateral prefrontal
> cortex switched off, depriving them of its "executive
> functions?" They'd interpret this as "not the doer."
> 
> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-11/16/freestyle-rapping-brain-scans
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
> wrote:
> 
> > Oh dear, Share. Are you sure you want to go there? Are you still being
> nudged from behind the curtain by your mentors? If you want to go to the
> heart of the issue (you had an opportunity yesterday) then by gum woman,
> go there. But stop beating around the stage scenery back there and get
> out under the flood lights.
> 
> Hi Ann,
> I need to consolidate my posts.
> Thank you for your goodwill expressed a post or so ago, even if it came
> with usual hedging and conditions.  It was at least somewhat more
> generous than we usually see.
> But I find this post here,  to Share to be missing the mark.
> This charge that she is being aided and abetted from behind the scenes I
> think is being so overplayed.  I guess the assertion is that LK, is
> somehow manipulating Share.
> I think it has become a pretty lame charge, but perhaps one that gives
> you comfort rather than simply addressing what she says, or recommending
> that she not offer an opinion in the first place.
> Maybe consider that one finger point out, three finger pointing back
> thingy.
>

LK lurks behind the scenes hedging conditions more generous than usual, 
pointing *three* fingers at his thingy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve to AWB and Richard

[Share Long]

dear Annie Get Your Gun, I'll bring quinoa salad and guacamole and pasta pesto 
and asparagus spread to the do.  All organic of course!  And I'll even let you 
have some if you want.

Meanwhile, please have a chat with Raunchy.  She talking about b***s in
 mouths again.  And I don't think she means ping pong balls if you know what I 
mean.  She said something similar when she and Mike were in a political 
kafufel, seems like so long ago.  Now she's quoting Woody Allen movies about 
same.  One would think she's got a fixation on such.  Very
 curious.

Anyway, the heart of the matter, the heart of the matter.  I suggest you and 
Raunchy scour the archives, Judy can help with that, and read all my mushy and 
or torrid poems to merudanda.  Then perhaps you all will get to the genuine 
heart of the matter between me and Robin.  Yes indeedy. 

BTW, I've just seen Steve's post and so will mention that Lord Knows has only 
emailed me offline one time.  

 Richard, I've just seen a post from Michael about the Balls so it is now 
official:  today it's all about b***s.  




 From: awoelflebater 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:43 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> dear Ravi, do you realize how much you sound like Robin here?!  That bit 
> about tendencies never touching Steve at his core?  That otther bit about 
> how no human being can enter into Steve's context?!  If one simply removes 
> the word idiot, this post, even from the very first sentence, could have been 
> written by Robin: 
> 
> 
> You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally say 
> that you are who you are and supposed to be.
> 
> FFL, I ask you, does that not sound like an opening sentence that Robin could 
> have written?!  

Oh dear, Share. Are you sure you want to go there? Are you still being nudged 
from behind the curtain by your mentors? If you want to go to the heart of the 
issue (you had an opportunity yesterday) then by gum woman, go there. But stop 
beating around the stage scenery back there and get out under the flood lights. 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:07 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] An ode to the The Idiot Steve
> 
> 
>   
> Dear Steve,
> 
> You are the only human being I have come across where I can unequivocally say 
> - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an idiot.
> 
> I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you project and 
> act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even in your 
> clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> 
> Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent, logical, 
> rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion is dominating you, 
> outside of the burden normal intelligent people carry. The problem I have is 
> forgetting that you are sui generis - no other idiot I have seen is as 
> fluidly and suavely consistent inside the idiotic, moronic self as you. The 
> neurotic and existential tendencies in the rest of us intelligent, sensitive 
> people, they will never touch you Steve - not at your core.
> 
> And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a connection 
> with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I doubt you have 
> ever established, or could establish, a relationship with another 
> intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can enter into your 
> idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally behave according to the 
> idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> 
> You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is the real 
> Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable in idiots. 
> But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of it. I challenge you 
> to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic as you are. This is 
> impossible.
> 
> Love,
> Ravi.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1  wrote:
> 
> 
> >  
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> >> But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> >> accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> >
> >You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I can't follow some 
> >of his posting, I understand his basic premise of checking one's 
> >subjectivity against reality.
> >And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel diminishing 
> >returns set in.
> >I am sorry I cannot afford you the same respect.  
> >Your agenda offers no benefit that I can see.
> > 
> > 
> > 
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Michael Jackson]

Having read your comments and meditated on them I must say I am actually happy 
with myself for asking these people who have made a lifestyle out of lying to 
stop doing so. 

All I want is for the general public who are currently being blitzed and 
deliberately so with a great deal of la la la 
everything-about-TM-is-swell-sweet-and-good deserve to know what kind of people 
they are dealing with.

It is rather typical of TM apologists to accuse people of "unstressing" when 
they are merely stating facts the TMO doesn't want to admit to. Unstressing, 
you know, the phenomenon that David Spector and Tammy on the cardio blog won't 
admit exists? 






 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Whether you and other TM apologists like it or not, if you want the general 
> public to dote on TM like you do, you are going to have to deal with the 
> baggage the Movement has generated for nearly 60 years - you can't expect 
> this info to be taken in a vacuum - as in pay attention to what we tell you 
> to pay attention to, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. 
> 
> I don't rant 

Even compared to the colourful persona on this forum you are unusually full of 
your self and obsessed with your own unstressing.

- I want people to have the full picture, 

Which you are not even close to be able to give. Have a reality check, or even 
better; have your meditation checked.


 

[FairfieldLife] Human SETI Program

[John]

Millions of dollars have been spent to search for extraterrestrial 
intelligence.  So far, the scientists who are involved in this search have not 
found any such evidence of extraterrestrials.  However, if we use the ancient 
science of jyotish for this effort, we will find that life here on earth is the 
evidence of the Intelligence in the universe.

Specifically, all of life here on earth can be categorized to reflect 
Intelligence from 27 sectors of the universe.  These sectors are called 
nakshatras in jyotish.  As such, human consciousness is similarly affected by 
the influences of the various nakshatras.

In brief, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence ends with the human 
beings here on earth.

JR

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE LAST PROPHECY By Mother Shipton (1488-1561) (who was burnt at the stake)

[feste37]

Well there's cheerful gal. Let's hope her prophecies are as bad as her poetry. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> THE LAST PROPHECY By Mother Shipton (1488-1561)
> 
> "In nineteen hundred and twenty-six 
> build houses light of straw and sticks.
> For then shall mighty wars be planned
> 
> and fire and swords shall sweep the land.
> 
> 
> When pictures seem alive with movements free, 
> when boats like fishes swim beneath the sea.
> When men like birds shall scour the sky.
> Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.
> 
> 
> For those who live the century through 
> in fear and trembling this shall do.
> Flee to the mountains and the dens
> to bog and forest and wild fens.
> 
> 
> For storms will rage and oceans roar 
> when Gabriel stands on sea and shore,
> and as he blows his wondrous horn
> old worlds die and new be born.
> 
> 
> A fiery dragon will cross the sky 
> six times before the earth shall die.
> Mankind will tremble and frightened be
> for the six heralds in this prophecy.
> 
> 
> For seven days and seven nights 
> man will watch this awesome sight.
> The tides will rise beyond their ken.
> To bite away the shores and then
> the mountains will begin to roar
> and earthquakes split the plain to shore.
> 
> 
> And flooding waters rushing in, 
> will flood the lands with such a din
> that mankind cowers in muddy fen
> and snarls about his fellow men.
> 
> 
> He bares his teeth and fights and kills 
> and secrets food in secret hill
> and ugly in his fear, he lies
> to kill marauders, thieves and spies.
> 
> 
> Man flees in terror from the floods 
> and kills, and rapes and lies in blood
> and spilling blood by mankind's hand
> will stain and bitter many lands.
> 
> 
> And when the dragon's tail is gone 
> man forgets and smiles and carries on.
> To apply himself - too late, too late
> for mankind has earned deserved fate.
> 
> 
> His masked smile, his false grandeur, 
> will serve the gods their anger stir
> and they will send the dragon back
> to light the sky - his tail will crack.
> Upon the earth and rend the earth
> and man shall flee, king, lord and serf.
> 
> 
> But slowly they are routed out 
> to seek diminishing water spout
> and men will die of thirst before
> the oceans rise to mount to the shore.
> And lands will crack and rend anew
> do you think it strange, it will come true.
> 
> 
> And in some far - off distant land 
> some men - oh such a tiny band
> will have to leave their solid mount
> and span the earth, those few to count.
> 
> 
> Who survives this (unreadable) and then 
> begin the human race again.
> But not on land already there,
> but on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare.
> 
> 
> Not every soul on earth will die, 
> as the dragon's tail goes sweeping by,
> not every land on earth will sink,
> but these will wallow in stench and stink,
> of rotting bodies of beast and man,
> of vegetation crisped on land.
> 
> 
> But the land that rises from the sea 
> will be dry and clean and soft and free.
> Of mankinds dirt and therefore be,
> the source of man's new dynasty.
> and those that live will ever fear
> the dragon's tail for many year
> but time erases memory
> You think it strange. but it will be.
> 
> 
> And before the race is built anew, 
> a silver serpent comes to view
> and spew out men of like unknown
> to mingle with the earth now grown
> cold from its heat and these men can
> enlighten the minds of future man
> to intermingle and show them how
> to live and love and thus endow.
> the children with the second sight.
> a natural thing so that they might
> grow graceful, humble and when they do
> the golden age will start anew.
> 
> 
> The dragon's tail is but a sign 
> for mankind's fall and man's decline.
> and before this prophecy is done
> I shall be burned at the stake, at l
> My body cinged and my soul set free
> You think I utter blastphemy
> your wrong. These things have come to me
> this prophecy will come to be."
> 
> THE LAST PROPHECY By Mother Shipton (1488-1561) (who was burnt at the stake)
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Michael Jackson]

Thanks I appreciate your saying this. I just like honesty, that's all - if the 
TMO came clean owned up to all the things the things they do, openly and 
honestly, I wouldn't have a word to say.





 From: awoelflebater 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  
Michael, I read the website and your comments and I thought, like virtually all 
of your writing here at FFL, that you state you case and your experiences with 
utmost clarity and lack of reaction. I appreciate who you are and where you're 
coming from to the extent that I can without really knowing you. Carry on, you 
are simply speaking of your perceptions and conclusions and experiences in a 
way which I find intelligent and worth considering.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Whether you and other TM apologists like it or not, if you want the general 
> public to dote on TM like you do, you are going to have to deal with the 
> baggage the Movement has generated for nearly 60 years - you can't expect 
> this info to be taken in a vacuum - as in pay attention to what we tell you 
> to pay attention to, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. 
> 
> I don't rant - I want people to have the full picture, not the limited 
> information the TM Movement puts out - then people can make their own 
> decision - but people are entitled to full disclosure, full information and 
> you know damn good and well full disclosure is one thing the TM folks are not 
> willing to give most of the time.
> 
> When you deal with esoteric notions there is the notion of karma or 
> unresolved energy that people create individually and collectively - if you 
> want more people to do TM you are going to have to deal openly and 
> forthrightly with the energy of unpleasant and unconscionable behavior the TM 
> Movement has created and perpetuated. Even those who are still TM boosters 
> have story after story of TM abuse.
> 
> I spoke last night to an old friend who was on one of the early Governor 
> training courses and who was on one of the teams of Governors who taught the 
> TM Sidhi Prep courses around 1977 or 1978 - she nearly adores what she 
> received from Maharishi, yet said her time on the Sidhi Prep teams was one of 
> the worst of her life due to the way the Council in New York who was in 
> charge of the teams treated her and the other ladies on her team, and other 
> teams she knew of.
> 
> Karma is karma but you seem to think if its created in the service of 
> Maharishi it don't stick to you.
> 
> What does that have to do with scientific research? The credibility of the 
> organization that does this research has been impaired due to its behavior, 
> not to mention the fact that to have most of the TM research done by TM'ers 
> always with positive results is like having Merck doing all its own research 
> on its own drugs, or as we say here in the South, its like having the coyotes 
> guarding the hen house.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: feste37 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:33 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
> 
> 
>   
> Your comments are worthless because they are not about the subject of the 
> article. You just wanted to go on an anti-TM rant, throwing in everything you 
> could think of. The other posters dealt with you quite kindly, which is more 
> than you deserved. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
> >
> > Dunno if any of you are interested but when I saw this blog on a TM study 
> > and saw one of the comments on it, I decided to post a reply - this brought 
> > forth a heated response from someone that I suspect works for the TM folks 
> > - so check it out if you want some fun.
> > 
> > http://cardiobrief.org/2012/11/13/mysterious-disappearing-paper-finally-reappears-in-another-journal/
> >
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.

[Michael Jackson]

You sure do love the balls - Tom and Jeanne that is - Jeanne is the author of 
the article you quote - she and her hubby Tom are the governors for the 
Carolinas - so what do you expect she is gonna write?





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments.
 

  


feste37:
> Your comments are worthless because they are not about 
> the subject of the article. You just wanted to go on 
> an anti-TM rant, throwing in everything you could think 
> of. The other posters dealt with you quite kindly, which 
> is more than you deserved... 
>
So, I guess if the TM studies have been discredited, then
we should be able to read the rebuttals *in the journals that
originally published them*. So, why can't mjackson just
cite those journals, or links to them, so we can read
the studies that debunk TM practice.

>From what I've read, most of the 360 scientific studies on 
TM were done by scientists not affiliated with the TMO.

"Meditation labs have sprung up at universities across the 
country--places such as Yale, UCLA, University of Oregon, 
UW Madison and Maharishi University of Management. Their
contributions have helped researchers identify three major 
categories of techniques, classified according to EEG 
measurements and the type of cognitive processing or 
mental activity involved..."

'How Meditation Techniques Compare -- Zen, Mindfulness
Transcendental Meditation and more' 
Huffpost - Healthy Living
http://tinyurl.com/2ayg3q4

mjackson74:
> > Dunno if any of you are interested but when I saw this 
> > blog on a TM study and saw one of the comments on it, 
> > I decided to post a reply - this brought forth a heated 
> > response from someone that I suspect works for the TM 
> > folks - so check it out if you want some fun.
> > 
> > http://cardiobrief.org/2012/11/13/mysterious-disappearing-paper-finally-reappears-in-another-journal/
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] THE LAST PROPHECY By Mother Shipton (1488-1561) (who was burnt at the stake)

[Rick Archer]

THE LAST PROPHECY By Mother Shipton (1488-1561)

"In nineteen hundred and twenty-six 
build houses light of straw and sticks.
For then shall mighty wars be planned

and fire and swords shall sweep the land.


When pictures seem alive with movements free, 
when boats like fishes swim beneath the sea.
When men like birds shall scour the sky.
Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.


For those who live the century through 
in fear and trembling this shall do.
Flee to the mountains and the dens
to bog and forest and wild fens.


For storms will rage and oceans roar 
when Gabriel stands on sea and shore,
and as he blows his wondrous horn
old worlds die and new be born.


A fiery dragon will cross the sky 
six times before the earth shall die.
Mankind will tremble and frightened be
for the six heralds in this prophecy.


For seven days and seven nights 
man will watch this awesome sight.
The tides will rise beyond their ken.
To bite away the shores and then
the mountains will begin to roar
and earthquakes split the plain to shore.


And flooding waters rushing in, 
will flood the lands with such a din
that mankind cowers in muddy fen
and snarls about his fellow men.


He bares his teeth and fights and kills 
and secrets food in secret hill
and ugly in his fear, he lies
to kill marauders, thieves and spies.


Man flees in terror from the floods 
and kills, and rapes and lies in blood
and spilling blood by mankind's hand
will stain and bitter many lands.


And when the dragon's tail is gone 
man forgets and smiles and carries on.
To apply himself - too late, too late
for mankind has earned deserved fate.


His masked smile, his false grandeur, 
will serve the gods their anger stir
and they will send the dragon back
to light the sky - his tail will crack.
Upon the earth and rend the earth
and man shall flee, king, lord and serf.


But slowly they are routed out 
to seek diminishing water spout
and men will die of thirst before
the oceans rise to mount to the shore.
And lands will crack and rend anew
do you think it strange, it will come true.


And in some far - off distant land 
some men - oh such a tiny band
will have to leave their solid mount
and span the earth, those few to count.


Who survives this (unreadable) and then 
begin the human race again.
But not on land already there,
but on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare.


Not every soul on earth will die, 
as the dragon's tail goes sweeping by,
not every land on earth will sink,
but these will wallow in stench and stink,
of rotting bodies of beast and man,
of vegetation crisped on land.


But the land that rises from the sea 
will be dry and clean and soft and free.
Of mankinds dirt and therefore be,
the source of man's new dynasty.
and those that live will ever fear
the dragon's tail for many year
but time erases memory
You think it strange. but it will be.


And before the race is built anew, 
a silver serpent comes to view
and spew out men of like unknown
to mingle with the earth now grown
cold from its heat and these men can
enlighten the minds of future man
to intermingle and show them how
to live and love and thus endow.
the children with the second sight.
a natural thing so that they might
grow graceful, humble and when they do
the golden age will start anew.


The dragon's tail is but a sign 
for mankind's fall and man's decline.
and before this prophecy is done
I shall be burned at the stake, at l
My body cinged and my soul set free
You think I utter blastphemy
your wrong. These things have come to me
this prophecy will come to be."

THE LAST PROPHECY By Mother Shipton (1488-1561) (who was burnt at the stake) 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
wrote:

> Oh dear, Share. Are you sure you want to go there? Are you still being
nudged from behind the curtain by your mentors? If you want to go to the
heart of the issue (you had an opportunity yesterday) then by gum woman,
go there. But stop beating around the stage scenery back there and get
out under the flood lights.

Hi Ann,
I need to consolidate my posts.
Thank you for your goodwill expressed a post or so ago, even if it came
with usual hedging and conditions.  It was at least somewhat more
generous than we usually see.
But I find this post here,  to Share to be missing the mark.
This charge that she is being aided and abetted from behind the scenes I
think is being so overplayed.  I guess the assertion is that LK, is
somehow manipulating Share.
I think it has become a pretty lame charge, but perhaps one that gives
you comfort rather than simply addressing what she says, or recommending
that she not offer an opinion in the first place.
Maybe consider that one finger point out, three finger pointing back
thingy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?

[Michael Jackson]

Homeopathic remedies kind of fascinate me - some of them I have tried had no 
effect (which probably means it was not the correct remedy for what I was 
taking it for) but others have had amazing results - the one that was 
particularly effective for me was the one for MSG - every now and then I eat 
Chinese food and forget to ask for no MSG (plus I found out my favorite 
restaurant always puts MSG in their fried rice) and I do get MSG overload - one 
or two 200C MSG

pills and the spacey, droopy, headachey symptoms are gone in less than 2 
minutes and this has been my experience every time I used it. - I've also used 
'em with good effects on animals too



 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your fav MAV product?
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> What, if any, is your favorite MAV product? :o
>

Having tried the entire catalogue (just in case the claims were true)
I can honestly say the inhalation oil is marvelous if you've got a
cold.

The rock salt is good too. Hmmm, sounds bizarre reading that back,
I wouldn't have thought I was the sort of person to have a salt
preference but there you are...

The honey is OK but 5 times as expensive as the fair trade
organic stuff I get locally. I don't care who chanted what at it,
at the end of the day it's still bee snot. Or something.

All the drugs are a waste of money unless you fancy a placebo
for your aches and pains. The long term TMer's I know are the 
biggest bunch of junkies I ever met, popping all sorts of pills 
and potions every five minutes after a meal or 10 minutes before.
Personally I prefer homeopathic remedies and just take a drink
of water when there's nothing wrong with me.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An ode to the The Idiot Steve

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  
wrote:
>
> Oh that's funny Raunch.
> At least I don't have to asterisk my postings.  You know:
> (paraphrase) "Unflinching honest is a necessity for forums such as
> this"*
> * except for people I don't happen to like, for people I disagree with,
> for anyone else who may get on my nerves.
> or how about this one:
> ( again paraphrasing, at least on the Dixon part) "Mike Dixon's views
> can be equated with the Taliban who shot the 14 year girl in the head in
> an attempt to murder her", but "Ravi's vivid description of sex acts in
> which I am named is just a "passionate difference of opinion)"
> Whoo boy.  That would be funny if it weren't so sad.
> 

Great. That means I'll have to sit through another episode of FFL Ice Capades 
again.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Reading conversations between Steve and Share this morning dropped me
> into a front row seat at the cinema watching Woody Allen movies famous
> for funny non sequiturs. Enjoy the hilarity.
> >
> > "Love and Death"
> >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDECrl6VSfA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
> >
> > "Love and Death"
> > Russian gentleman: So who is to say what is moral?
> > Sonja: Morality is subjective.
> > Russian gentleman: Subjectivity is objective.
> > Sonja: Moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist only
> in relational duality.
> > Russian gentleman: Not as an essential extension of ontological
> existence.
> > Sonja: Can we not talk about sex so much?
> >
> > "Hannah and Her Sisters"
> > "And Nietzsche, with his theory of eternal recurrence. He said that
> the life we lived we're gonna live over again the exact same way for
> eternity. Great. That means I'll have to sit through the Ice Capades
> again."
> >
> > "Mighty Aphrodite"
> > "And so there I am on the first day, on the set, and there's this guy
> fucking me from behind, right, and there's these two huge guys dressed
> like cops in my mouth at the same time and I remember thinking to
> myself, "I like acting. I wanna study."
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Steve,
> > >
> > > You are the only human being I have come across where I can
> unequivocally
> > > say - that you are who you are and supposed to be - an idiot.
> > >
> > > I have never sensed another self other than the idiotic self you
> project
> > > and act out of. This whole idiotic context of yours works - even in
> your
> > > clueless, audacious, mystifying ways.
> > >
> > > Therefore any attempts to make you see the world in any intelligent,
> > > logical, rational way will be futile. You are, in whatever emotion
> is
> > > dominating you, outside of the burden normal intelligent people
> carry. The
> > > problem I have is forgetting that you are sui generis - no other
> idiot I
> > > have seen is as fluidly and suavely consistent inside the idiotic,
> moronic
> > > self as you. The neurotic and existential tendencies in the rest of
> us
> > > intelligent, sensitive people, they will never touch you Steve - not
> at
> > > your core.
> > >
> > > And do you know how I know this Steve? Because you only make a
> connection
> > > with something idiotic, irrational in each one of us. And I doubt
> you have
> > > ever established, or could establish, a relationship with another
> > > intelligent, rational human being, because no human being can enter
> into
> > > your idiotic context, and no human being can reciprocally behave
> according
> > > to the idiotic intuitions and impulses that move you.
> > >
> > > You can't help but be perpetually and provocatively idiotic. This is
> the
> > > real Steve. It makes me believe there is after all something lovable
> in
> > > idiots. But you seem to me the only genuine, living embodiment of
> it. I
> > > challenge you to tell me you have ever met someone who is as idiotic
> as you
> > > are. This is impossible.
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Ravi.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But I didn't expect you to take responsibility for the
> > > > > accusation, Steve. You are not a serious person.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You sound like Robin.  But I like Robin,  and even if I can't
> follow some
> > > > of his posting, I understand his basic premise of checking one's
> > > > subjectivity against reality.
> > > >
> > > > And I can even go one or two rounds with him before I feel
> diminishing
> > > > returns set in.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry I cannot afford you the same respect.
> > > >
> > > > Your agenda offers no benefit that I can see.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>