--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > If holding people accountable for their deeds and behavior gives me the > consciousness of an amoeba, I willingly accept the label. > > It is preferable to saying "Oh, that one didn't work out either, must be > somethin' subtle." or "Oh they aren't going to go any further with that > project that Marshy said was sooooo muy importante, well he's so enlightened > he must see things we don't and knows in his enlightened consciousness that > the project is unnecessary now." > > In such situations one of course does not ask for refunds for monies given > for the now defunct project. > > But I am rambling as amoebas are often prone to do. Amoebas are biologically immortal except for accidents, so you are one up on the TMO for that. Gurus can be under a lot of strange influences, as adoration can isolate them in a way that does not allow ordinary human interaction. If they are not rock solid enlightened and have decent ethical values, this can cause them to fall short of proclaimed and expected ideals.
In the early days MMY did not seem like a betrayer of the faith people put on him. Plus a guru who surrounds themselves with an organisation is looking for trouble because of the non uniform quality of disciples and the inevitable number of administrators who believe rather than live the results of a teaching. As soon as a teacher is surrounded by an inner circle of disciples, a movement is doomed to corruption, unknowingly the teacher loses control as middlemen proliferate, and when the teacher goes, management remains, and everybody hates management except managers. A lot of this falls on the stupidity of the disciples. It is almost as if there is a law of nature that says once a teacher gets x number of disciples, and a movement forms, that is the beginning of the end of whatever purity of teaching can be had. Perhaps a teaching has a critical mass of students above which it will mutate into something less than desirable. It will become a problem to all solutions instead of a solution to all problems. > ________________________________ > From: nablusoss1008 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:01 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > Thanks I appreciate your saying this. I just like honesty, that's all - > > if the TMO came clean owned up to all the things the things they do, openly > and honestly, I wouldn't have a word to say. > > What I wonder about is why the TMO should let you know anything. Because even > if they did you wouldn't be able to understand even a sparkle of the ideas. > Do you remember the pearls before swine analogy ? Being in a good mood today > and granting you the benefit of the doubt, it's not because I consider you a > pig, it's just that the qualifications for insights are not even dimly > present. > > ________________________________ > > From: awoelflebater <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:28 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM studies and dueling comments. > > > > > > ÃÂ > > Michael, I read the website and your comments and I thought, like virtually > > all of your writing here at FFL, that you state you case and your > > experiences with utmost clarity and lack of reaction. I appreciate who you > > are and where you're coming from to the extent that I can without really > > knowing you. Carry on, you are simply speaking of your perceptions and > > conclusions and experiences in a way which I find intelligent and worth > > considering. > > Have you ever meditated with TM or spend time in the TMO ? If not, how on > earth can you possibly have an opinion ? I usually don't have the time to > read your posts here, but if they are equally unfounded what would be the > reason to start ? >
