Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome tracking w/e 5/24

[Ravi Chivukula]

An updated spreadsheet Steve - sorry it doesn't look good


 *Steve's Unknown Syndrome Tracking* week ending May 24, 2012*

(* = pathology yet to be named to Dr. Chivukula)


  *General Symptoms*

*Blind loyalty fueled symptoms*


   *Post #*

*Careless, reactive, frivolous?*

*Ludicrous, twisted facts?*

*Slander and/or dishonesty?*

*Lack of self-dignity, self-disrespect?*

*Instinctual?*

*Delusional thinking?*

344362 

Yes

No

No

No

Yes

No

344363 

Yes

No

No

No

Yes

No

344364 

Yes

Yes

No

No

Yes

No

344366 

Yes

No

No

No

Yes

No

344377 

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

No


   344458 

Yes

Yes

No

No

No

No

344462 

Yes

No

No

No

No

Yes


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula
wrote:

> Delusional thinking.
>
> Here are the different symptoms we have for sure (added the 6th based on
> your behavior here) - we will eventually get to a label Steve baby, thanks
> for your feedback, this is always a collaborative effort, it's useless if
> the patient doesn't trust the therapist.
>
> *Symptoms of Steve's yet to be named pathological behavior*
>
> 1) Careless, frivolous, reactive behavior
> 2) Ludicrous, twisted facts
> 3) Slander, dishonesty (occasionally)
> 4) Blind loyalty at the expense of one's own dignity and self-respect
> 5) Blind loyalty at the expense of one's intelligence, instinctual behavior
> 6) Delusional thinking - subject thinks he is the therapist and not the
> patient.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:00 PM, seventhray27 wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Peel off the layers of the onion, grasshopper and you will find the truth
>> that has eluded you.  This is all I can say at present.  "They also serve
>> who only stand and wait"  Ponder Ravi. The truth will come.
>>
>> Remember: I am here for you.
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>> >
>> > Bullshit - reactive. "For once you got it 100% right" - ludicrous,
>> twisted,
>> > dishonest. You can't help yourself, you pathetic bastard.
>> >
>> > Anyway this post makes 6 out of 6, careless, frivolous, reactive posts
>> with
>> > ludicrous, twisted facts - you have perplexed me here, this does not
>> have
>> > the fingerprint of SS, I'm asking myself - Ravi, where is the object of
>> > blind loyalty here? Is it you yourself, the object of blind loyalty?
>> Have I
>> > misdiagnosed you here? Is there some other underlying pathology that
>> > probably encompasses SS? More work to be done Steve baby. I will not
>> > disappoint you, I will have a better label for you. I may have to change
>> > the spreadsheet - will get back to you.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > For once you got it 100% right! Good job Ravi __ Chivukula. (-:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Steve - I have a spreadsheet for you as well. It's simple enough -
>> let me
>> > > > know if you are bitten by any of the 3 C's - concerns, corrections
>> and/or
>> > > > clarifications.
>> > > >
>> > > > Executive Summary
>> > > >
>> > > > All 5 of 5 posts - 100%, demonstrate blind loyalty, careless,
>> frivolous
>> > > > and/or reactive posting in support of your object of blind loyalty.
>> It's
>> > > no
>> > > > looking good dear Steve - please remember Dr. Chivukula's
>> recommendations
>> > > > to keep SS under control.
>> > > >
>> > > > *Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome Tracking week ending May 24, 2012*
>> > > >
>> > > > *Post #*
>> > > >
>> > > > *Demonstrates Sports-fan Syndrome?*
>> > > >
>> > > > *Object of loyalty*
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 344362
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes
>> > > >
>> > > > Share
>> > > >
>> > > > 344363
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes
>> > > >
>> > > > Share
>> > > >
>> > > > 344364
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes
>> > > >
>> > > > Share
>> > > >
>> > > > 344366
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes
>> > > >
>> > > > Share
>> > > >
>> > > > 344377
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes
>> > > >
>> > > > Share
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>  
>>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome tracking w/e 5/24

[Ravi Chivukula]

Delusional thinking.

Here are the different symptoms we have for sure (added the 6th based on
your behavior here) - we will eventually get to a label Steve baby, thanks
for your feedback, this is always a collaborative effort, it's useless if
the patient doesn't trust the therapist.

*Symptoms of Steve's yet to be named pathological behavior*

1) Careless, frivolous, reactive behavior
2) Ludicrous, twisted facts
3) Slander, dishonesty (occasionally)
4) Blind loyalty at the expense of one's own dignity and self-respect
5) Blind loyalty at the expense of one's intelligence, instinctual behavior
6) Delusional thinking - subject thinks he is the therapist and not the
patient.



On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:00 PM, seventhray27 wrote:

> **
>
>
> Peel off the layers of the onion, grasshopper and you will find the truth
> that has eluded you.  This is all I can say at present.  "They also serve
> who only stand and wait"  Ponder Ravi. The truth will come.
>
> Remember: I am here for you.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Bullshit - reactive. "For once you got it 100% right" - ludicrous,
> twisted,
> > dishonest. You can't help yourself, you pathetic bastard.
> >
> > Anyway this post makes 6 out of 6, careless, frivolous, reactive posts
> with
> > ludicrous, twisted facts - you have perplexed me here, this does not have
> > the fingerprint of SS, I'm asking myself - Ravi, where is the object of
> > blind loyalty here? Is it you yourself, the object of blind loyalty?
> Have I
> > misdiagnosed you here? Is there some other underlying pathology that
> > probably encompasses SS? More work to be done Steve baby. I will not
> > disappoint you, I will have a better label for you. I may have to change
> > the spreadsheet - will get back to you.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > For once you got it 100% right! Good job Ravi __ Chivukula. (-:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Steve - I have a spreadsheet for you as well. It's simple enough -
> let me
> > > > know if you are bitten by any of the 3 C's - concerns, corrections
> and/or
> > > > clarifications.
> > > >
> > > > Executive Summary
> > > >
> > > > All 5 of 5 posts - 100%, demonstrate blind loyalty, careless,
> frivolous
> > > > and/or reactive posting in support of your object of blind loyalty.
> It's
> > > no
> > > > looking good dear Steve - please remember Dr. Chivukula's
> recommendations
> > > > to keep SS under control.
> > > >
> > > > *Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome Tracking week ending May 24, 2012*
> > > >
> > > > *Post #*
> > > >
> > > > *Demonstrates Sports-fan Syndrome?*
> > > >
> > > > *Object of loyalty*
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 344362
> > > >
> > > > Yes
> > > >
> > > > Share
> > > >
> > > > 344363
> > > >
> > > > Yes
> > > >
> > > > Share
> > > >
> > > > 344364
> > > >
> > > > Yes
> > > >
> > > > Share
> > > >
> > > > 344366
> > > >
> > > > Yes
> > > >
> > > > Share
> > > >
> > > > 344377
> > > >
> > > > Yes
> > > >
> > > > Share
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome tracking w/e 5/24

[seventhray27]

Peel off the layers of the onion, grasshopper and you will find the
truth that has eluded you.  This is all I can say at present.  "They
also serve who only stand and wait"  Ponder Ravi. The truth will come.

Remember: I am here for you.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> Bullshit - reactive. "For once you got it 100% right" - ludicrous,
twisted,
> dishonest. You can't help yourself, you pathetic bastard.
>
> Anyway this post makes 6 out of 6, careless, frivolous, reactive posts
with
> ludicrous, twisted facts - you have perplexed me here, this does not
have
> the fingerprint of SS, I'm asking myself - Ravi, where is the object
of
> blind loyalty here? Is it you yourself, the object of blind loyalty?
Have I
> misdiagnosed you here? Is there some other underlying pathology that
> probably encompasses SS? More work to be done Steve baby. I will not
> disappoint you, I will have a better label for you. I may have to
change
> the spreadsheet - will get back to you.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > For once you got it 100% right! Good job Ravi __ Chivukula. (-:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve - I have a spreadsheet for you as well. It's simple enough -
let me
> > > know if you are bitten by any of the 3 C's - concerns, corrections
and/or
> > > clarifications.
> > >
> > > Executive Summary
> > >
> > > All 5 of 5 posts - 100%, demonstrate blind loyalty, careless,
frivolous
> > > and/or reactive posting in support of your object of blind
loyalty. It's
> > no
> > > looking good dear Steve - please remember Dr. Chivukula's
recommendations
> > > to keep SS under control.
> > >
> > > *Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome Tracking week ending May 24, 2012*
> > >
> > > *Post #*
> > >
> > > *Demonstrates Sports-fan Syndrome?*
> > >
> > > *Object of loyalty*
> >
> > >
> > > 344362
> > >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > Share
> > >
> > > 344363
> > >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > Share
> > >
> > > 344364
> > >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > Share
> > >
> > > 344366
> > >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > Share
> > >
> > > 344377
> > >
> > > Yes
> > >
> > > Share
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Share's formula for happiness on FFL

[Ravi Chivukula]

You didn't get my point yeah Doc?

I meant Share looks up to you, to your platitudes to soothe herself. More
on it below. But yeah so I thought, we both would play the good cop, bad
cop routine. I, the bad cop, would fucking sting her with the truth, and
you - the good cop, would soothe her with your platitudes - whaddaya say
Doc?

Doc - I spent 13 years around Amma's cult. I realized looking back, that
the cult could never soothe me. All Amma had was bhajans, chants worshiping
her, seva, sadhana, satsang, some meditation techniques - apparently many
things you can use to deceive yourself. Intricate platitudes - like the
grace quote below - I got that from FB, one of Amma's quotes. Anyway I
couldn't numb my pain, my sorrow, my distress - it's not that I didn't try,
I tried them all but it was all useless.

It's like everyone around Amma were very happy with what they had, as if in
a fantasy dream land, fucking zombies. They didn't have to do anything, the
Guru, Amma said just worship me and it's all good. If you feel down
remember you don't have enough grace. And I was the only one alive,
authentic. So the Guru was really doing nothing just giving techniques,
platitudes to keep people in a fantasy. I didn't see any other that was
like me - hey fuck this, this is not working. I had to search for truth on
my own, the Guru didn't do a damn thing, though I apparently projected it
for sometime - now I see the foolishness of it.

Makes sense - Doc?



On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:13 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com <
no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> That sure IS a platitude...and severely out of context. Not impressed.
> Weak argument. Sorry, I cannot argue with you about that, Ravi. You are
> going to have to try much harder to draw me in. Arguing after all, takes
> effort, and I'm getting old.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> >
> > Stop being silly Doc - the right thing for you to do here is to not
> start an argument with me but to soothe Share with a platitude like
> >
> > "Grace comes out of nowhere. It can happen anytime, any place".
> >
> > Be a man - do the right thing.
> >
> >
> > On May 17, 2013, at 3:27 PM, doctordumbass@... 
> wrote:
> >
> > > 11) Dude, you enjoy and dwell on my platitudes (a trite, meaningless,
> biased, or prosaic statement, often presented as if it were significant and
> original), eh? Awesome.
> > >
> > > Please let me know when you have found one, and I'll give you a gold
> star, and a hug!
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Share - ok one last thing. It's clear at this point that you
> have nothing intelligent to contribute here on FFL. Please stop humiliating
> yourself by thinking you can contribute anything intelligent, stop
> responding to intelligent posters like Judy, Ann, Emily. I have been going
> after you for the last month and I have nothing sincere, intelligent back
> from you.
> > > >
> > > > Let's stick to your formula of phony posts - asking innocent
> questions, getting titillated by platitudes interspersed with phony
> laughter, lame jokes.
> > > >
> > > > This is your secret to success and happiness on FFL. Trust me this
> is the brilliance and the exceptional mind of Dr. Ravi Chivukula, Psy. D,
> UCLA at work here.
> > > >
> > > > You have 50 posts - here's what you should do
> > > >
> > > > 1) 7 posts on your general life - personal trips, travails of daily
> life such cars stuck in snow, Fairfield weather, dome reports, healer, Guru
> visits.
> > > >
> > > > 2) 3 posts on recent platitudes that you got attracted and have
> started practicing - such as CC is a stepping stone to Unity.
> > > >
> > > > 3) 5 posts/questions to Uncleji Bhairitu on Ayurveda, various
> remedies for pitta, vata aggravation(derangement is not the right word - I
> used it to mock you)
> > > >
> > > > 4) 5 posts/questions to John on Astrology, current transits and
> Dasha periods
> > > >
> > > > 5) 5 posts expressing hysterical joy(fake orgasm) at Guru Xeno's
> descriptions of Unity
> > > >
> > > > 6) 2 posts/questions to salyavin on Science
> > > >
> > > > 7) 3 posts to merudanda on poetry, drama and such
> > > >
> > > > 8) 5 posts to Barry on Maya, Amsterdam/Paris, admiration for his
> tantric shit in the fan technique.
> > > >
> > > > 9) 5 posts/questions to various other random posters like
> Curtis/Buck/Feste
> > > >
> > > > 10) 5 posts checking up on Steve - wishing him happy journey, his
> family etc
> > > >
> > > > 10) 5 posts/questions to Dr. DD and others on more platitudes.
> > > >
> > > > Love,
> > > > Ravi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 17, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Ravi Chivukula 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And dear Share now that you have figured out my problem I better
> come clean.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm envious of Barry - why would I not?
> > > > >
> > > > > I live in Guttersville, Alabama, work as a grocery store clerk,
> come back to my trailer to drown my unhappin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome tracking w/e 5/24

[Ravi Chivukula]

Bullshit - reactive. "For once you got it 100% right" - ludicrous, twisted,
dishonest. You can't help yourself, you pathetic bastard.

Anyway this post makes 6 out of 6, careless, frivolous, reactive posts with
ludicrous, twisted facts - you have perplexed me here, this does not have
the fingerprint of SS, I'm asking myself - Ravi, where is the object of
blind loyalty here? Is it you yourself, the object of blind loyalty? Have I
misdiagnosed you here? Is there some other underlying pathology that
probably encompasses SS? More work to be done Steve baby. I will not
disappoint you, I will have a better label for you. I may have to change
the spreadsheet - will get back to you.



On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM, seventhray27 wrote:

> **
>
>
> For once you got it 100% right!  Good job Ravi __ Chivukula.  (-:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Steve - I have a spreadsheet for you as well. It's simple enough - let me
> > know if you are bitten by any of the 3 C's - concerns, corrections and/or
> > clarifications.
> >
> > Executive Summary
> >
> > All 5 of 5 posts - 100%, demonstrate blind loyalty, careless, frivolous
> > and/or reactive posting in support of your object of blind loyalty. It's
> no
> > looking good dear Steve - please remember Dr. Chivukula's recommendations
> > to keep SS under control.
> >
> > *Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome Tracking week ending May 24, 2012*
> >
> > *Post #*
> >
> > *Demonstrates Sports-fan Syndrome?*
> >
> > *Object of loyalty*
>
> >
> > 344362
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > Share
> >
> > 344363
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > Share
> >
> > 344364
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > Share
> >
> > 344366
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > Share
> >
> > 344377
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > Share
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[sparaig]

I believe currently there are supposed to be about 8000 kids in one region of 
Mexico who are doing the TM-Sidhis at the same time. They are spread out over 
many schools in the area. Eventually, 65,000 kids are supposed to participate.

I have no idea where the daily numbers of participants are published, or if 
they are published.  The Invincible America website kept a daily tally going 
for more than 5 years of the numbers in Fairfield.

L



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> Where have the required numbers (according to the hypothesis) been gathered 
> in the *same* location? What is the predicted result? Where are the results 
> documented, and how closely do they match the predictions?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > How have has the project failed?
> > 
> > The project in this specific location, Fairfield, IA, didn't meet its 
> > goals. Allegedly, the project in Mexico HAS met its goals with many 
> > thousands of kids (65,000?) learning the TM-Sidhis over the next few years 
> > in a single province within a single time-zone who are meant to practice at 
> > the same time every day during school:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SZgisNTJ1-A#t=499s
> > 
> > 
> > L
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Fairfield,Iowa failed to achieve a critical mass hence the money is 
> > > > better spent somewhere else.  Money is money and these are noble 
> > > > scientists who are also business people expecting results from their 
> > > > money.  Who could blame them for the poor results in the Fairfield Dome 
> > > > numbers here.  The shame is that people like even the list of lurkers 
> > > > on this list did not come out more for the project of meditating 
> > > > together.  It was the large high-minded scientific experiment seeking 
> > > > data yet.  The shame is with the people who did not come who do know 
> > > > better.  Fairfield failed the sample size.  More than anyone, I should 
> > > > blame some people here on this very internet list who failed to help us 
> > > > all by not coming to meditation.  That was the incredibly lost 
> > > > opportunity.  That is a shame on them, the ones who did not come to 
> > > > help when help was needed.
> > > > -Buck in the Dome   
> > > 
> > > Blaming others for what one oneself has failed to achieve is a small way 
> > > to approach this. An organisation that claims to have supreme knowledge 
> > > and fails to accomplish its stated goals clearly does not have supreme 
> > > knowledge. Of course many an institution may state certain goals 
> > > publicly, but has other goals privately. Some suspect that the goal was 
> > > simply to pump money into the coffers to support the hierarchical 
> > > pyramid. That such an idea might cross the mind of meditators is not 
> > > entirely due to their imagination. Because MUM has self-defeating goals 
> > > for getting people into the dome, while the course of action is 
> > > unfathomable, the result is not entirely inconceivable.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome tracking w/e 5/24

[seventhray27]

For once you got it 100% right!  Good job Ravi __ Chivukula.  (-:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> Steve - I have a spreadsheet for you as well. It's simple enough - let
me
> know if you are bitten by any of the 3 C's - concerns, corrections
and/or
> clarifications.
>
> Executive Summary
>
> All 5 of 5 posts - 100%, demonstrate blind loyalty, careless,
frivolous
> and/or reactive posting in support of your object of blind loyalty.
It's no
> looking good dear Steve - please remember Dr. Chivukula's
recommendations
> to keep SS under control.
>
> *Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome Tracking week ending May 24, 2012*
>
> *Post #*
>
> *Demonstrates Sports-fan Syndrome?*
>
> *Object of loyalty*
>
> 344362
>
> Yes
>
> Share
>
> 344363
>
> Yes
>
> Share
>
> 344364
>
> Yes
>
> Share
>
> 344366
>
> Yes
>
> Share
>
> 344377
>
> Yes
>
> Share
>

[FairfieldLife] Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome tracking w/e 5/24

[Ravi Chivukula]

Steve - I have a spreadsheet for you as well. It's simple enough - let me
know if you are bitten by any of the 3 C's - concerns, corrections and/or
clarifications.

Executive Summary

All 5 of 5 posts - 100%, demonstrate blind loyalty, careless, frivolous
and/or reactive posting in support of your object of blind loyalty. It's no
looking good dear Steve - please remember Dr. Chivukula's recommendations
to keep SS under control.

   *Steve's Sports-fan Syndrome Tracking week ending May 24, 2012*

*Post #*

*Demonstrates Sports-fan Syndrome?*

*Object of loyalty*

344362 

Yes

Share

344363 

Yes

Share

344364 

Yes

Share

344366 

Yes

Share

344377 

Yes

Share

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?

[doctordumbass]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol"  wrote:
>
> Doc stated: "...meditating among the forest of pot plants they were growing 
> on their sun porch..." I get images of purple and swirls and Ram Dass.

We were barely out of the '70's, for all I know he was hiding behind the 
foliage, watching me!

> Sorry to read about your friend Doc. :(

Yep. Premature death sucks.
> 
> I may have mentioned on FFL before that The Way Corps program which was/is 
> the leadership training program for The Way International, required hitch 
> hiking up until sometime in the early 90s (I think it was until the early 
> 90s). In addition to the hitch hiking, we had time limits to reach our 
> destinations and (sometimes) if we didn't make it in time, we had to turn 
> around and hitch hike back to where we came from. 

Sounds like the forerunner of The Amazing Race.:-)
> 
> On one of my hitch hiking assignments from Kansas (location of one of The 
> Way's then campuses) to New Mexico (location of The Way's then rock 
> climbing/outdoor academy), my partner and I were 19 minutes late. We had to 
> turn around and hitch back to Kansas...and come up with $150(?) to do it 
> again when we would again be assigned the trip. The price for the outdoor 
> academy was included (so to speak) with our tuition if we arrived on time 
> after hitching those 750+ miles; but if we didn't arrive on time, we had to 
> cough up the $$ for next round.
> 
> What a crazy requirement, but 1000s of us complied. 
> 
Glad you got out of it. Funny how we'll do anything if someone promises us a 
path to God. Obviously drives human beings off the deep end. Like God or 
Goddess is sitting up there, having gotten their attention, saying, "So YOU, 
want to represent, ME?? Have at it, and Good Luck child!" 
>  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I had one friend lose her life that way, and my brother got picked up 
> > a few times by guys wanting BJs. 
> > 
> > One of the most perfect rides I had, though, was in 1980, when I left the 
> > TM encampment in Missouri, trying to get to Eugene, OR, from a ramp onto 
> > I-70, outside Higginsville. After a cop stopped, to let me know he was a 
> > cop, a guy picked me up and drove me to within 40 miles of Eugene! I was 
> > broke that time too, and the guy was towing a motorcycle, behind his Camaro.
> > 
> > After I met up with my buddies in Oregon, I stayed at their place for 
> > several weeks, meditating among the forest of pot plants they were growing 
> > on their sun porch. Then off to Santa Barbara for more adventures!
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol"  wrote:
> > >
> > > What an awesome account; love the images. :)
> > > 
> > > I hitch hiked over 6000 miles as the crow flies back in the late 70s and 
> > > early 80s. Wish I would have kept a journal of all the trips. I don't 
> > > condone hitch hiking though. I do know some personal horror stories of 
> > > others. Thankful all my experiences were good...or at least weren't bad. 
> > > One time a city bus picked me up. lol
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That was quite a trip, in 1972-ish. Trying to get from Colorado to my 
> > > > GF in Atlanta, I hooked up with this black guy, his cargo van, his 
> > > > motorcycle tied down in the back, and his Irish setter, through a ride 
> > > > board, when options like that were still fairy safe. 
> > > > 
> > > > We left Denver, went south through New Mexico and east into El Paso, 
> > > > into such a snowstorm, other cars were being blown off the road, 
> > > > literally. Thanks to the bike in the back, we had traction. After 
> > > > making it across Texas, we met these two good ol' boys around two in 
> > > > the morning, in Texarkana, at a gas station. Cold as f*ck outside. We 
> > > > brought the dog in, the guys carried out oil cartons for us to sleep 
> > > > on, gave us coffee, and we all talked for a long time. Later on, we'd 
> > > > let the dog out to run on rural roads, and that Irish Setter could pace 
> > > > the van forever! I was broke back then, and made the trip on very 
> > > > little food, literally bread and water. 
> > > > 
> > > > Did a fair amount of traveling like that, back then, always had good 
> > > > experiences, which I attribute more to my guardian angels, than to my 
> > > > wisdom at the time! 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good to hear, Doc, thanks for sharing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:45 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > I found the deep South to be completely counter to its stereotypes. 
> > > > > Some of the nicest people I e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stand By Me

[doctordumbass]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > On another forum far more limited in scope than even this one, I
> > occasionally chat with a handful of people who went to the same high
> > school I did. This is not quite as lame as it sounds, because the whole
> > school had 30 students, and was located near Casablanca, Morocco. It was
> > a cool place to go to high school, and made the experience more
> > bearable.
> > 
> > Anway, on this forum, one of the people I remember well from that time
> > has been entertaining people by posting links to old songs that we
> > literally used to dance to in the Teen Club during that period. It's
> > been a veritable nostalgiafest. Today he posted Ben E. King's classic
> > song, and folks went wild.
> > 
> > Below is the original version of this song, followed by a number of
> > cover versions. John captures the magic of the song best in the intro to
> > the first cover version, but the last one is the best.
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg7YoXiKn0
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM <
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM>
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYt0ZScWZDI
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGqeZZt98o <
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGqeZZt98o>
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM
> > 
> > 
> > It's fascinating to me how popular this song was at the time, and how
> > popular it still is today. It has touched so many people, over so many
> > years. I can remember *exactly* where I was and what I was doing the
> > first time I heard it. It stopped me in my tracks and forged an
> > indelible impression in my mind. I can remember the lyrics 52 years
> > later as clearly as John did.
> > 
> > I guess the the music stands by us, even if little else does.
> >
> 
> 
> Music is time.
> 
> As light creates space, sound creates time.
>
Odd to have you mention that. I've been thinking the same thing, sort of. 
Visual art captures space, then alters time, according to the observer's 
interest. Music, on the other hand, captures time, and then alters space, 
depending on the effect of the music on the listener.
Cool stuff.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Share's posting summary w/e 5/24 - UPDATED

[Ravi Chivukula]

Also remember dear Share - any interaction with any intelligent poster will
be marked as a FAILURE and not tracked on this spreadsheet. The post
numbers of interactions with intelligent(as applicable to your success and
happiness) posters will be listed as footer.

So we are clear - these are posters you steer clear of - Robin, Judy, Ann,
Emily, raunchydog and The Mad Yogi. Of course this will be a running list
and will be updated as we progress along.

OK heading to the beach.

Love you dear Auntie, my regards and love to Grandma Grace.

P.S. The Mad Yogi and Dr. Ravi Chivukula who is assisting you here be
considered as two separate entities based on the content of the post, which
will be decided by Dr. Chivukula.



On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> Dear Share, as promised I'm attaching the sample spreadsheet for your 4
> posts this week. (Not sure if the formatting will be show up correctly)
>
> This updated version has links to the actual posts - hope they show up.
>
> *Executive summary*
>
> 1) Only 2 out of 4 - 50% meet the listed success criteria (Failures marked
> in Red)
> 2) The 4 posts show that you may be veering from our formula for success -
> hence this week is trending towards less happiness.(We should check with
> John on his astrological analysis as well)
>
> Thank you - let me know how this looks
>
> At your service,
> Love - Ravi
>
>
>   *Share's posting summary week ending May 24, 2012*
>
> Post #
>
> Addressed
>
> Poster
>
> Subject
>
> Has Innocent
>
> Question?
>
> Has Phoniness?
>
> Has Platitudes?
>
> Has Titillation?
>
> (Hysterical joy/fake laughter)
>
> Has lame joke?
>
> 344407 
>
> Jason
>
> General
>
> Yes
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> 344411 
>
> Nabby
>
> Hinduism
>
> Yes
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> 344422 
>
> Barry
>
> Music
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> 344427 
>
> Martyboi
>
> General
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Share's posting summary w/e 5/24

[Ravi Chivukula]

Also remember dear Share - any interaction with any intelligent poster will
be marked as a FAILURE and not tracked on this spreadsheet. The post
numbers of interactions with intelligent(as applicable to your success and
happiness) posters will be listed as footer.

So we are clear - these are posters you steer clear of - Robin, Judy, Ann,
Emily, raunchydog and The Mad Yogi. Of course this will be a running list
and will be updated as we progress along.

OK heading to the beach.

Love you dear Auntie, my regards and love to Grandma Grace.



On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:

> Dear Share, as promised I'm attaching the sample spreadsheet for your 4
> posts this week. (Not sure if the formatting will be show up correctly)
>
> Executive summary
>
> 1) Only 2 out of 4 - 50% meet the listed success criteria (Failures marked
> in Red)
> 2) The 4 posts show that you may be veering from our formula for success -
> hence this week is trending towards less happiness.(We should check with
> John on his astrological analysis as well)
>
> Thank you - let me know how this looks
>
> At your service,
> Love - Ravi
>
>  *Share's posting summary week ending May 24, 2012*
>
> Post #
>
> Addressed
>
> Poster
>
> Subject
>
> Has Innocent
>
> Question?
>
> Has Phoniness?
>
> Has Platitudes?
>
> Has Titillation?
>
> (Hysterical joy/fake laughter)
>
> Has lame joke?
>
> 344407
>
> Jason
>
> General
>
> Yes
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> 344411
>
> Nabby
>
> Hinduism
>
> Yes
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> 344422
>
> Barry
>
> Music
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> 344427
>
> Martyboi
>
> General
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>
> No
>

[FairfieldLife] Share's posting summary w/e 5/24 - UPDATED

[Ravi Chivukula]

Dear Share, as promised I'm attaching the sample spreadsheet for your 4
posts this week. (Not sure if the formatting will be show up correctly)

This updated version has links to the actual posts - hope they show up.

*Executive summary*

1) Only 2 out of 4 - 50% meet the listed success criteria (Failures marked
in Red)
2) The 4 posts show that you may be veering from our formula for success -
hence this week is trending towards less happiness.(We should check with
John on his astrological analysis as well)

Thank you - let me know how this looks

At your service,
Love - Ravi


 *Share's posting summary week ending May 24, 2012*

Post #

Addressed

Poster

Subject

Has Innocent

Question?

Has Phoniness?

Has Platitudes?

Has Titillation?

(Hysterical joy/fake laughter)

Has lame joke?

344407 

Jason

General

Yes

No

No

No

No

344411 

Nabby

Hinduism

Yes

No

No

No

No

344422 

Barry

Music

No

No

No

No

No

344427 

Martyboi

General

No

No

No

No

No

[FairfieldLife] Share's posting summary w/e 5/24

[Ravi Chivukula]

Dear Share, as promised I'm attaching the sample spreadsheet for your 4
posts this week. (Not sure if the formatting will be show up correctly)

Executive summary

1) Only 2 out of 4 - 50% meet the listed success criteria (Failures marked
in Red)
2) The 4 posts show that you may be veering from our formula for success -
hence this week is trending towards less happiness.(We should check with
John on his astrological analysis as well)

Thank you - let me know how this looks

At your service,
Love - Ravi

 *Share's posting summary week ending May 24, 2012*

Post #

Addressed

Poster

Subject

Has Innocent

Question?

Has Phoniness?

Has Platitudes?

Has Titillation?

(Hysterical joy/fake laughter)

Has lame joke?

344407

Jason

General

Yes

No

No

No

No

344411

Nabby

Hinduism

Yes

No

No

No

No

344422

Barry

Music

No

No

No

No

No

344427

Martyboi

General

No

No

No

No

No

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?

[Carol]

Doc stated: "...meditating among the forest of pot plants they were growing on 
their sun porch..." I get images of purple and swirls and Ram Dass.

Sorry to read about your friend Doc. :(

I may have mentioned on FFL before that The Way Corps program which was/is the 
leadership training program for The Way International, required hitch hiking up 
until sometime in the early 90s (I think it was until the early 90s). In 
addition to the hitch hiking, we had time limits to reach our destinations and 
(sometimes) if we didn't make it in time, we had to turn around and hitch hike 
back to where we came from. 

On one of my hitch hiking assignments from Kansas (location of one of The Way's 
then campuses) to New Mexico (location of The Way's then rock climbing/outdoor 
academy), my partner and I were 19 minutes late. We had to turn around and 
hitch back to Kansas...and come up with $150(?) to do it again when we would 
again be assigned the trip. The price for the outdoor academy was included (so 
to speak) with our tuition if we arrived on time after hitching those 750+ 
miles; but if we didn't arrive on time, we had to cough up the $$ for next 
round.

What a crazy requirement, but 1000s of us complied. 


 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Yes, I had one friend lose her life that way, and my brother got picked up a 
> few times by guys wanting BJs. 
> 
> One of the most perfect rides I had, though, was in 1980, when I left the TM 
> encampment in Missouri, trying to get to Eugene, OR, from a ramp onto I-70, 
> outside Higginsville. After a cop stopped, to let me know he was a cop, a guy 
> picked me up and drove me to within 40 miles of Eugene! I was broke that time 
> too, and the guy was towing a motorcycle, behind his Camaro.
> 
> After I met up with my buddies in Oregon, I stayed at their place for several 
> weeks, meditating among the forest of pot plants they were growing on their 
> sun porch. Then off to Santa Barbara for more adventures!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol"  wrote:
> >
> > What an awesome account; love the images. :)
> > 
> > I hitch hiked over 6000 miles as the crow flies back in the late 70s and 
> > early 80s. Wish I would have kept a journal of all the trips. I don't 
> > condone hitch hiking though. I do know some personal horror stories of 
> > others. Thankful all my experiences were good...or at least weren't bad. 
> > One time a city bus picked me up. lol
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > That was quite a trip, in 1972-ish. Trying to get from Colorado to my GF 
> > > in Atlanta, I hooked up with this black guy, his cargo van, his 
> > > motorcycle tied down in the back, and his Irish setter, through a ride 
> > > board, when options like that were still fairy safe. 
> > > 
> > > We left Denver, went south through New Mexico and east into El Paso, into 
> > > such a snowstorm, other cars were being blown off the road, literally. 
> > > Thanks to the bike in the back, we had traction. After making it across 
> > > Texas, we met these two good ol' boys around two in the morning, in 
> > > Texarkana, at a gas station. Cold as f*ck outside. We brought the dog in, 
> > > the guys carried out oil cartons for us to sleep on, gave us coffee, and 
> > > we all talked for a long time. Later on, we'd let the dog out to run on 
> > > rural roads, and that Irish Setter could pace the van forever! I was 
> > > broke back then, and made the trip on very little food, literally bread 
> > > and water. 
> > > 
> > > Did a fair amount of traveling like that, back then, always had good 
> > > experiences, which I attribute more to my guardian angels, than to my 
> > > wisdom at the time! 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good to hear, Doc, thanks for sharing.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > I found the deep South to be completely counter to its stereotypes. 
> > > > Some of the nicest people I ever met there, complete strangers who 
> > > > would give me the shirt off their backs, were toothless, uneducated 
> > > > rednecks. I traveled through there with a black guy once, Texas, 
> > > > Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia, we were treated 
> > > > with kindness and generosity, which was a good thing, cause it was the 
> > > > middle of winter. Spent a lot of time in North Carolina also, same 
> > > > deal. Had similar experiences all over the country. Once the "me" finds 
> > > > its normal size, the I Am/We Are takes over.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > martyboi, I bet a lot of people living outsi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stand By Me

[azgrey]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> On another forum far more limited in scope than even this one, I
> occasionally chat with a handful of people who went to the same high
> school I did. This is not quite as lame as it sounds, because the whole
> school had 30 students, and was located near Casablanca, Morocco. It was
> a cool place to go to high school, and made the experience more
> bearable.
> 
> Anway, on this forum, one of the people I remember well from that time
> has been entertaining people by posting links to old songs that we
> literally used to dance to in the Teen Club during that period. It's
> been a veritable nostalgiafest. Today he posted Ben E. King's classic
> song, and folks went wild.
> 
> Below is the original version of this song, followed by a number of
> cover versions. John captures the magic of the song best in the intro to
> the first cover version, but the last one is the best.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg7YoXiKn0
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM <
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYt0ZScWZDI
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGqeZZt98o <
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGqeZZt98o>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM
> 
> 
> It's fascinating to me how popular this song was at the time, and how
> popular it still is today. It has touched so many people, over so many
> years. I can remember *exactly* where I was and what I was doing the
> first time I heard it. It stopped me in my tracks and forged an
> indelible impression in my mind. I can remember the lyrics 52 years
> later as clearly as John did.
> 
> I guess the the music stands by us, even if little else does.
>


Music is time.

As light creates space, sound creates time.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Suits and Robes

[Bhairitu]

The Star Trek movie isn't doing so hot at the box office:
http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/star-trek-into-darkness-3d-opens-to-2m-late-night-and-imax/

Probably time to retire the franchise or do something very different 
with it.  May a Lars Van Triers sequel? :-D

On 05/17/2013 02:19 PM, Share Long wrote:
> MJ, the only really yellow suits I've ever seen have been on firemen.  
> Perhaps that's why the beige colored ones instead.  I would imagine that 
> those rubbery suits are pretty sweaty.  Anyway, for other trekkies on FFL, I 
> just saw the latest Star Trek offering.  And I saw it in 3D!  There are some 
> tie ins to the original TV series so it helps if you're familiar with that.  
> I'd give it a 6.5 on a scale of 1 to 10.  Action packed, some good humor and 
> a pretty good plot.  But maybe the element of surprise missing, such as the 
> first prequel had.
>
>
>
>
> 
>   From: Michael Jackson 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Suits and Robes
>   
>
>
>
> Ah - I'm betting that's it - but why don't they wear actual yellow suits, and 
> not the fawn colored ones, I wonder?
>
>
>
>
> 
>   From: John 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:30 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Suits and Robes
>   
>
>
>
> In jyotish, yellow and gold are the colors for Jupiter, the Guru among the 
> Vedic pantheon.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>> Raja attire aside, does anyone know why all the other TM teachers at the top 
>> level all dress alike - is there some spiritual significance to wearing gold 
>> ties and fawn colored suits?
>>
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something
> > > > > > > > > > complex and assume that it must have been created
> > > > > > > > > > by something more complex. This was Darwins genius
> > > > > > > > > > as he showed it isn't the case where biology is 
> > > > > > > > > > concerned.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > But not where human consciousness is concerned.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That's a belief. And a strange one.
> > > 
> > > It's also just a belief that biology is responsible for human
> > > consciousness.
> > 
> > ?
> 
> Which words did you not understand?

I guess it's just a belief that biology is responsible for my
heartbeat. 

You mystical types start from the wrong place. You claim to
understand evolution but have you considered how an alternative
might fit in? I mean does the brain have to evolve all its
motor functions and sensory apparatus and then, to get conscious,
does it go in search of some quantum things that defy the laws of
physics to bridge the huge gaps in neurons or what happens instead
of what seems to happen?

If consciousness isn't part of the brain was it hanging around 
waiting for us to evolve to be able to use it? Or maybe it directed
us in an SCI fashion to become all it can be? Either belief is in
direct contradiction of how we understand evolution.

So what is this extra thing you think you need? Whatever it is
I don't need it, thinking is what brains do, seeing and hearing and feeling is 
what they do, it's all they've ever done. Keep watching
the brain magnet guys. When you know what part does what you'll
know how it works, making sense of it in a "how does it feel to be
a whatever..." will be your own problem to work out as the most
complex object in the known universe is probably beyond its own
ability to fathom subjectively,but all that energy it sucks up 
must be doing something.


> There is indubitably an "extra thing," a thing science has not
> been able to account for.

Well give them a chance! They've only had the gear to look for
a few years and it's getting better all the time, it's the most complex object 
in the known universe!

> 
> But I'm not "blaming 'other' stuff" or proposing mystical or
> quantum explanations. I'm not proposing anything in particular
> other than that neuroscience hasn't told us (and may well never
> tell us) whether the brain causes consciousness, or given us a
> solution to the "hard problem." Many neuroscientists and
> philosophers (and most laypeople) don't recognize that there
> *is* a "hard problem"--even though it's right under their noses
> every minute of the day. (Or, more likely, *because* it's right
> under their noses every minute of the day.)

Well why didn't you say earlier it might have saved me a lot of
typing.
 
> > > Ever read any David Chalmers?
> 
> Guess not, huh?

Why? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Nabby, what made you think that?
> > 
> > The americans are not so interested in something that requires a lot of 
> > time to yield results. This was an attempt to lure them with cash but it 
> > was like throwing money down the well, it had to come to an end knowing 
> > that you can multiply the bang for the buck with at least 10 by spending 
> > the money in India. I'm surprized it went on as long as it did, and all 
> > glory to Settle for funding this selfless project. This Disciple certainly 
> > put in a strong application for Masterhood with such a historic initiative. 
> > Like the americans say; What a guy !
> > 
> >   And from another post:  what did you mean when you said joik is Sama 
> > Veda? 
> > It sound somehow like SamaVed but it's content is compatible with 
> > Atharvaved. It was Maharishi who first draw the connection to SamaVed when 
> > hearing it somewhere in Scandinavia in the '60ies saying it was a living 
> > bridge to the Vedas. 
> 
> So, did he support Tilak's view in  The Arctic Home in the Vedas?? :o
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Arctic_Home_in_the_Vedas
> 
> http://weltordnung.ch/books/Tilak,%20Lokamanya%20-%20The%20Arctic%20Home%20in%20the%20Vedas%20(EN,%201903,%20470%20S.,%20Text).pdf
>  

http://tinyurl.com/aotcko8

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Taking Root in Detroit

[Bhairitu]

However that particular video would REALLY dispel myths about communism 
in China.  I believe there are some US states that would not allow the 
manufacture of those dolls.

On 05/18/2013 02:02 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> I've been greatly enjoying Vice, and thanks for not posting a link to the 
> episode #4 extra about the sex doll factory. I found it easily on YouTube, 
> and even though the naked figures were synthetic, it was too adult for this 
> place.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 05/14/2013 10:25 AM, John wrote:
>>> With the city on the verge of bankruptcy, the participation of Chinese auto 
>>> industry in the area may be a welcome development.
>>>
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-creating-auto-niche-within-012304652.html
>>>
>>>
>> For those with HBO, you might want to check out VICE episode 4 to find
>> out what's up in China.  The first half is about matchmaking in China
>> because of it's one child policy.  The reporter goes to Beijing to a
>> fair where prospective husbands are trotted out for families who have
>> single daughters.  Quite a hoot but it does show how much China has
>> copied US culture.  Rich Chinese guys even buy billboards to advertise
>> their wealth.  See in China, it's all about money.
>>
>> Even better (and available on YouTube without HBO) is the episode 4
>> extra which shows how far Chinese business skills have gone selling
>> plastic life like sex dolls (I won't provide a link since it would upset
>> Alex and Yahoo but just search on YouTube for HBO VICE).
>>
>> VICE is a Bill Maher production and episodes show news stories that our
>> fascist US news media won't show.  Episode one is definitely rated NOT
>> FOR BUCK as you will get to see what actually happens when bombs go off
>> in foreign countries though it may not shock those of us who watch
>> modern horror films or "The Walking Dead."  Anyway it is a great series
>> and I've been catching up via Comcast VOD.
>>
>> Incidentally the  second half of episode 4 is about economic protests in
>> Europe. We could use a few of Spain's protesters to teach the US 99% how
>> to handle things.  OTOH, keep Greece's right wingers out of the US.
>>
>> Tied into that we learned about a study this week that says that strong
>> men tend to be conservative and weak men liberal.  Except I've known a
>> few strong liberal who could kick conservative asses and it doesn't take
>> into account some of the bow-tie conservatives. It says that
>> conservative believe in "working hard" but of course that's because they
>> don't know how to "work smart" like us liberals.  But I sure wouldn't
>> use mild-mannered Mr. Limpit Thom Hartmann as an example of anyone
>> liberal (oops, Thom just seems to be a Democrat anymore).
>>
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Nabby, what made you think that?
> 
> The americans are not so interested in something that requires a lot of time 
> to yield results. This was an attempt to lure them with cash but it was like 
> throwing money down the well, it had to come to an end knowing that you can 
> multiply the bang for the buck with at least 10 by spending the money in 
> India. I'm surprized it went on as long as it did, and all glory to Settle 
> for funding this selfless project. This Disciple certainly put in a strong 
> application for Masterhood with such a historic initiative. Like the 
> americans say; What a guy !
> 
>   And from another post:  what did you mean when you said joik is Sama 
> Veda? 
> It sound somehow like SamaVed but it's content is compatible with Atharvaved. 
> It was Maharishi who first draw the connection to SamaVed when hearing it 
> somewhere in Scandinavia in the '60ies saying it was a living bridge to the 
> Vedas. 

So, did he support Tilak's view in  The Arctic Home in the Vedas?? :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Arctic_Home_in_the_Vedas

http://weltordnung.ch/books/Tilak,%20Lokamanya%20-%20The%20Arctic%20Home%20in%20the%20Vedas%20(EN,%201903,%20470%20S.,%20Text).pdf
 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
(snip)
> > > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something
> > > > > > > > > complex and assume that it must have been created
> > > > > > > > > by something more complex. This was Darwins genius
> > > > > > > > > as he showed it isn't the case where biology is 
> > > > > > > > > concerned.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > But not where human consciousness is concerned.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That's a belief. And a strange one.
> > 
> > It's also just a belief that biology is responsible for human
> > consciousness.
> 
> ?

Which words did you not understand?

> > Is your personal conviction that it's all biology a function of
> > biology?
> > 
> > That seems to me a lot stranger, frankly.
> > 
> > I'm not arguing against evolution, BTW. That's settled, as far
> > as I'm concerned.
> 
> You've stopped making sense.

Did you assume I *was* arguing against evolution? What is it in
what I said that you've found confusing?

> > The problem is that it can't account for human consciousness--
> > e.g., for Judy and salyavin each having a perspective on an
> > issue, for our arguing about which of those perspectives is
> > correct (or at least more likely).

Did you understand what I was talking about here? Because this--
the existence of the subjective--is really the key to it.

Robin wrote back in September 2011:

"Neuroscience would have to, in some sense, tacitly include
within its frame of reference the very subjectivity it
purports to investigate. But it is necessarily an entirely
third person point enterprise. How can first person
perspective be objectified through neuroscience? For this
to be possible it would mean that the third person
perspective is in itself richer, more complex, and profound
than the first person perspective."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/288863

*What it's like to be a neuroscientist* is inevitably going
to be more comprehensive than what neuroscience can learn
about human consciousness and its relationship to the brain.

> > > > > > > There isn't any reason to
> > > > > > > think human consciousness hasn't evolved. Quite the 
> > > > > > > opposite. Look at the brains of other animals both
> > > > > > > living and extinct, you can easily plot on a graph
> > > > > > > how the brain has evolved over the millenia and from
> > > > > > > there see what animals had what skills and what the 
> > > > > > > difference in structures must mean to our awareness
> > > > > > > and thought capability.
> > 
> > Where does one find in the human brain the structures that
> > account for, e.g., personal perspectives on whether human 
> > consciousness is explained by biology? If you know of any,
> > *how* do you know?

I guess you don't know of any, right?

> > > > > > *Brains* have evolved. But until/unless we crack the
> > > > > > "hard problem," we can have no idea what the differences 
> > > > > > in brain structures might mean with regard to human 
> > > > > > awareness and thought.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As it's brains that cause consciousness (get someone to hit
> > > > > you on the head with a heavy object if you don't believe me)
> > > > 
> > > > Brains seem to be necessary for consciousness to function
> > > 
> > > Seem?
> > 
> > Yes, because of what I went on to mention:
> > 
> > > > (although there's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the
> > > > contrary)
> > > 
> > > If only the plural of anecdote was data.
> > 
> > Indeed.
> > 
> > > I think what you mean to say is that some people mistake
> > > altered states of consciousness for something that's
> > > happening somehow outside of them.
> > 
> > No, that is not what I mean to say. In fact, actual data
> > are involved (including data from observers), just not the
> > kind that we have the means to replicate by the standard
> > scientific methods. (OTOH, there are some creative solutions
> > to this problem that propose nonstandard methodology that
> > *should* stand up to skeptical scrutiny. But that's another
> > story.)
> > 
> > > , but that doesn't mean they *cause* consciousness.
> > > 
> > > Nonsense.
> > 
> > Oh, a well-formulated scientific argument, salyavin. ;-)
> 
> I have a gift for encapsulation.

IOW, asserting conclusions without providing reasons for them?
Yes, that does facilitate encapsulation. But does it facilitate
understanding?
  
> > My assertion stands, even without the parenthetical. Brains
> > and consciousness are very highly *correlated*, but that
> > doesn't nail causation. Faucets and water are very highly
> > correlated; does that mean faucets *cause* water? See, I
> > can make the water appear and disappear just by turning the
> > faucet handle! That's like bonking you on the head and
> > making your consciousness disappear, right?
> 
> But if I believed that faucets (or "

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monsanto Protection Act. Is this true? GMOs without restriction?

[authfriend]

Check this out:

http://badskeptic.com/?tag=hr-933

The truth is probably somewhere in between.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
>  I received an email regarding  a so called The Monsanto Protection Act
> in the US. Is this true? According to  it on March 21st, US Congress
> passed "The Monsanto Protection Act" that was slipped into a short term
> budget resolution. The amendment allows Monsanto to bypass judicial
> scrutiny, granting them virtual immunity to lawsuits based on adverse
> health or environmental consequences of their  GMOs.With HR 933 now a
> law does the court system no longer has the right to step in and protect
> the consumer?
>   "Stewart compared the process of getting Monsanto passed to buying
> porno, then hiding it under a bigger purchase that might include, say,
> Mountain Dew and Funyuns."
> On The Daily Show, Jon Stewart:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ
> 
> Stewart might get us to laugh about the act, but it's some serious
> business that  not only young adults over there  need to care about.
> It's the future of their and in the long run  because of US power
> worldwide   of our food. They also need IMHO also to care because of the
> political process that allowed "a rider" like this to end up in a
> completely unrelated  US bill.
> 
> Top 10 Bizarre Genetically Modified Organisms
> http://listverse.com/2008/04/01/top-10-bizarre-genetically-modified-orga\
> nisms/
>  anisms/>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakrapani Jyotish predictions for 2013-2014

[feste37]

I don't know anything about how you would do a natal chart for a country. But I 
am always struck by the discrepancy between how Americans see their country and 
what their country actually does.  During its early days the USA boasted about 
liberty, democracy, and "inalienable rights" while at the same time enslaving 
one race and pursuing genocide against another. Quite a discrepancy, that. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Feste,
> 
> You have to understand that Chakrapani is using the USA natal chart based on 
> the date of the Declaration of Independence, which was July 4, 1776.
> 
> This chart does show the violence and the revolutionary period that the 
> Americans had to endure in order to secede from Great Britain.
> 
> But the karma of this chart is still reverberating in our lives today.  The 
> USA today is practicing a periodic revolution of its government which we 
> experience as the general elections for the president and the members of 
> Congress.
> 
> We can apply this revolution in the areas of the economy, culture, 
> philosophy, literature, arts and religion.
> 
> On a worldwide scale, we have a tendency to think that we are the bearers of 
> true democracy.  Thus, we get involved in the political affairs of other 
> countries that are struggling for freedom and human rights.
> 
> For many Americans, this apparent aggression is perceived to be due to the 
> capitalist system that the USA is using.  But if you study the USA natal 
> chart, this is not necessarily true.  It is more karmic.
> 
> JR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > I like this bit. Explains quite nicely why the US is the most violent, 
> > ruthless, warlike country on the planet. (But why do Americans not see 
> > this?)
> >  
> > From Chakrapani's forecast for the US:
> > 
> > When one reflects on these qualities, it is apparent how Mars figures 
> > prominently in the United States' Natal chart. The U.S.'s Natal Mars is 
> > powerfully situated in the 7th house, aspected by 10th house Saturn, a 
> > uniquely strong position. Mars and Saturn both form a strong backbone to 
> > the USA's Natal chart and figure significantly in the identity of America. 
> > Mars, like Saturn, is a revolutionary, an agent of change; they create war, 
> > they create unrest, they create global upheaval. They have an agenda and 
> > they will have their way. This is why, as I have said before, during the 
> > major cycle of Mars, the U.S. will not be able to escape war or warlike 
> > circumstances of some kind. This will be the case until 2015, regardless of 
> > any efforts that Obama or the government may make to end war.
> > 
> > Currently Mars is the ruling planet for Vijaya, and the US chart is 
> > operating in the Mars Dasha, essentially highlighting and bringing to the 
> > fore the U.S.A. Natal Mars. One consequence of this heightened Mars 
> > influence is that, as a country, we are in a period that attracts conflict 
> > and war, within and without. In fact, the United States has long been 
> > involved in war, either inside or outside its border because Mars plays 
> > such an essential role in the identity of the country. With the current 
> > Mars Dasha and with regards to the Vijaya year, the role of Mars is 
> > emphasized, resulting in challenges, war, conflicts, problems, and 
> > disagreements.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://chakrapanivedicastrology.wordpress.com/category/yearly-predictions/2013-2014/
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Astounding, so President Obama is going to be facing challenges
> > > this year? 
> > > 
> > > Phew, they're really going out on a limb with this one.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Monsanto Protection Act. Is this true? GMOs without restriction?

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote:
>
> I received an email regarding a so called The Monsanto Protection Act
> in the US. Is this true? According to it on March 21st, US Congress
> passed "The Monsanto Protection Act" that was slipped into a short
term
> budget resolution. The amendment allows Monsanto to bypass judicial
> scrutiny, granting them virtual immunity to lawsuits based on adverse
> health or environmental consequences of their GMOs.With HR 933 now a
> law does the court system no longer has the right to step in and
protect
> the consumer?
> "Stewart compared the process of getting Monsanto passed to buying
> porno, then hiding it under a bigger purchase that might include, say,
> Mountain Dew and Funyuns."
> On The Daily Show, Jon Stewart:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ
>
> Stewart might get us to laugh about the act, but it's some serious
> business that not only young adults over there need to care about.
> It's the future of their and in the long run because of US power
> worldwide of our food. They also need IMHO also to care because of the
> political process that allowed "a rider" like this to end up in a
> completely unrelated US bill.
>
> Top 10 Bizarre Genetically Modified Organisms
>
http://listverse.com/2008/04/01/top-10-bizarre-genetically-modified-orga\
\
> nisms/
> > anisms/>

 
  
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Taking Root in Detroit

[Alex Stanley]

I've been greatly enjoying Vice, and thanks for not posting a link to the 
episode #4 extra about the sex doll factory. I found it easily on YouTube, and 
even though the naked figures were synthetic, it was too adult for this place.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 05/14/2013 10:25 AM, John wrote:
> > With the city on the verge of bankruptcy, the participation of Chinese auto 
> > industry in the area may be a welcome development.
> >
> > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-creating-auto-niche-within-012304652.html
> >
> >
> 
> For those with HBO, you might want to check out VICE episode 4 to find 
> out what's up in China.  The first half is about matchmaking in China 
> because of it's one child policy.  The reporter goes to Beijing to a 
> fair where prospective husbands are trotted out for families who have 
> single daughters.  Quite a hoot but it does show how much China has 
> copied US culture.  Rich Chinese guys even buy billboards to advertise 
> their wealth.  See in China, it's all about money.
> 
> Even better (and available on YouTube without HBO) is the episode 4 
> extra which shows how far Chinese business skills have gone selling 
> plastic life like sex dolls (I won't provide a link since it would upset 
> Alex and Yahoo but just search on YouTube for HBO VICE).
> 
> VICE is a Bill Maher production and episodes show news stories that our 
> fascist US news media won't show.  Episode one is definitely rated NOT 
> FOR BUCK as you will get to see what actually happens when bombs go off 
> in foreign countries though it may not shock those of us who watch 
> modern horror films or "The Walking Dead."  Anyway it is a great series 
> and I've been catching up via Comcast VOD.
> 
> Incidentally the  second half of episode 4 is about economic protests in 
> Europe. We could use a few of Spain's protesters to teach the US 99% how 
> to handle things.  OTOH, keep Greece's right wingers out of the US.
> 
> Tied into that we learned about a study this week that says that strong 
> men tend to be conservative and weak men liberal.  Except I've known a 
> few strong liberal who could kick conservative asses and it doesn't take 
> into account some of the bow-tie conservatives. It says that 
> conservative believe in "working hard" but of course that's because they 
> don't know how to "work smart" like us liberals.  But I sure wouldn't 
> use mild-mannered Mr. Limpit Thom Hartmann as an example of anyone 
> liberal (oops, Thom just seems to be a Democrat anymore).
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Nabby, what made you think that?

The americans are not so interested in something that requires a lot of time to 
yield results. This was an attempt to lure them with cash but it was like 
throwing money down the well, it had to come to an end knowing that you can 
multiply the bang for the buck with at least 10 by spending the money in India. 
I'm surprized it went on as long as it did, and all glory to Settle for funding 
this selfless project. This Disciple certainly put in a strong application for 
Masterhood with such a historic initiative. Like the americans say; What a guy !

  And from another post:  what did you mean when you said joik is Sama Veda? 
It sound somehow like SamaVed but it's content is compatible with Atharvaved. 
It was Maharishi who first draw the connection to SamaVed when hearing it 
somewhere in Scandinavia in the '60ies saying it was a living bridge to the 
Vedas.  

What is joik?Â
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search A joik, (also 
>spelled yoik), luohti, vuolle, leu'dd, or juoiggus is a traditional Sami form 
>of song. Originally, joik referred to only one of several Sami singing styles, 
>but in English the word is often used to refer to all types of traditional 
>Sami singing. According to music researchers, joik is one of the longest 
>living music traditions in Europe, and is the folk music of the Sami 
>people.[1] Its sound is comparable to the traditional chanting of some Native 
>American cultures.[2]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakrapani Jyotish predictions for 2013-2014

[John]

Feste,

You have to understand that Chakrapani is using the USA natal chart based on 
the date of the Declaration of Independence, which was July 4, 1776.

This chart does show the violence and the revolutionary period that the 
Americans had to endure in order to secede from Great Britain.

But the karma of this chart is still reverberating in our lives today.  The USA 
today is practicing a periodic revolution of its government which we experience 
as the general elections for the president and the members of Congress.

We can apply this revolution in the areas of the economy, culture, philosophy, 
literature, arts and religion.

On a worldwide scale, we have a tendency to think that we are the bearers of 
true democracy.  Thus, we get involved in the political affairs of other 
countries that are struggling for freedom and human rights.

For many Americans, this apparent aggression is perceived to be due to the 
capitalist system that the USA is using.  But if you study the USA natal chart, 
this is not necessarily true.  It is more karmic.

JR






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I like this bit. Explains quite nicely why the US is the most violent, 
> ruthless, warlike country on the planet. (But why do Americans not see this?)
>  
> From Chakrapani's forecast for the US:
> 
> When one reflects on these qualities, it is apparent how Mars figures 
> prominently in the United States' Natal chart. The U.S.'s Natal Mars is 
> powerfully situated in the 7th house, aspected by 10th house Saturn, a 
> uniquely strong position. Mars and Saturn both form a strong backbone to the 
> USA's Natal chart and figure significantly in the identity of America. Mars, 
> like Saturn, is a revolutionary, an agent of change; they create war, they 
> create unrest, they create global upheaval. They have an agenda and they will 
> have their way. This is why, as I have said before, during the major cycle of 
> Mars, the U.S. will not be able to escape war or warlike circumstances of 
> some kind. This will be the case until 2015, regardless of any efforts that 
> Obama or the government may make to end war.
> 
> Currently Mars is the ruling planet for Vijaya, and the US chart is operating 
> in the Mars Dasha, essentially highlighting and bringing to the fore the 
> U.S.A. Natal Mars. One consequence of this heightened Mars influence is that, 
> as a country, we are in a period that attracts conflict and war, within and 
> without. In fact, the United States has long been involved in war, either 
> inside or outside its border because Mars plays such an essential role in the 
> identity of the country. With the current Mars Dasha and with regards to the 
> Vijaya year, the role of Mars is emphasized, resulting in challenges, war, 
> conflicts, problems, and disagreements.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > http://chakrapanivedicastrology.wordpress.com/category/yearly-predictions/2013-2014/
> > >
> > 
> > Astounding, so President Obama is going to be facing challenges
> > this year? 
> > 
> > Phew, they're really going out on a limb with this one.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chinese Taking Root in Detroit

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 05/14/2013 10:25 AM, John wrote:
> > With the city on the verge of bankruptcy, the participation of Chinese auto 
> > industry in the area may be a welcome development.
> >
> > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-creating-auto-niche-within-012304652.html
> >
> >
> 
> For those with HBO, you might want to check out VICE episode 4 to find 
> out what's up in China.  The first half is about matchmaking in China 
> because of it's one child policy.  The reporter goes to Beijing to a 
> fair where prospective husbands are trotted out for families who have 
> single daughters.  Quite a hoot but it does show how much China has 
> copied US culture.  Rich Chinese guys even buy billboards to advertise 
> their wealth.  See in China, it's all about money.
> 
> Even better (and available on YouTube without HBO) is the episode 4 
> extra which shows how far Chinese business skills have gone selling 
> plastic life like sex dolls (I won't provide a link since it would upset 
> Alex and Yahoo but just search on YouTube for HBO VICE).
> 
> VICE is a Bill Maher production and episodes show news stories that our 
> fascist US news media won't show.  Episode one is definitely rated NOT 
> FOR BUCK as you will get to see what actually happens when bombs go off 
> in foreign countries though it may not shock those of us who watch 
> modern horror films or "The Walking Dead."  Anyway it is a great series 
> and I've been catching up via Comcast VOD.
> 
> Incidentally the  second half of episode 4 is about economic protests in 
> Europe. We could use a few of Spain's protesters to teach the US 99% how 
> to handle things.  OTOH, keep Greece's right wingers out of the US.
> 
> Tied into that we learned about a study this week that says that strong 
> men tend to be conservative and weak men liberal.  Except I've known a 
> few strong liberal who could kick conservative asses and it doesn't take 
> into account some of the bow-tie conservatives. It says that 
> conservative believe in "working hard" but of course that's because they 
> don't know how to "work smart" like us liberals.  But I sure wouldn't 
> use mild-mannered Mr. Limpit Thom Hartmann as an example of anyone 
> liberal (oops, Thom just seems to be a Democrat anymore).
>

Bhairitu,

Red China obviously believes in its own communist system to make the necessary 
social changes in order to obtain the most efficient and productive economy.  
In the short run, it may be producing good results for them.

But as the Chinese people in the mainland become more affluent, they will be 
looking for something more personally satisfying than making money and products 
for the state.  They may be looking for more freedom and human rights that the 
communist state is inherently not capable of handling, nor providing.

IMO, there may be in the near future a revolution in China that is comparable 
to the demise of the Soviet Union, and the fall of the Berlin Wall.

[FairfieldLife] The Monsanto Protection Act. Is this true? GMOs without restriction?

[merudanda]

 I received an email regarding  a so called The Monsanto Protection Act
in the US. Is this true? According to  it on March 21st, US Congress
passed "The Monsanto Protection Act" that was slipped into a short term
budget resolution. The amendment allows Monsanto to bypass judicial
scrutiny, granting them virtual immunity to lawsuits based on adverse
health or environmental consequences of their  GMOs.With HR 933 now a
law does the court system no longer has the right to step in and protect
the consumer?
  "Stewart compared the process of getting Monsanto passed to buying
porno, then hiding it under a bigger purchase that might include, say,
Mountain Dew and Funyuns."
On The Daily Show, Jon Stewart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4pfiYK2IQ

Stewart might get us to laugh about the act, but it's some serious
business that  not only young adults over there  need to care about.
It's the future of their and in the long run  because of US power
worldwide   of our food. They also need IMHO also to care because of the
political process that allowed "a rider" like this to end up in a
completely unrelated  US bill.

Top 10 Bizarre Genetically Modified Organisms
http://listverse.com/2008/04/01/top-10-bizarre-genetically-modified-orga\
nisms/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakrapani Jyotish predictions for 2013-2014

[Bhairitu]

On 05/18/2013 09:56 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> http://chakrapanivedicastrology.wordpress.com/category/yearly-predictions/2013-2014/
>
>

BTW, these are Indian New Years predictions and not based on a US chart 
of which there are many disputed horoscopes due to it being difficult to 
determine legally when the US became a real entity.

Also, Chakrapani was a follower of Muktananda and I recall Muktananda 
asked him to move to the US.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chinese Taking Root in Detroit

[Bhairitu]

On 05/14/2013 10:25 AM, John wrote:
> With the city on the verge of bankruptcy, the participation of Chinese auto 
> industry in the area may be a welcome development.
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-creating-auto-niche-within-012304652.html
>
>

For those with HBO, you might want to check out VICE episode 4 to find 
out what's up in China.  The first half is about matchmaking in China 
because of it's one child policy.  The reporter goes to Beijing to a 
fair where prospective husbands are trotted out for families who have 
single daughters.  Quite a hoot but it does show how much China has 
copied US culture.  Rich Chinese guys even buy billboards to advertise 
their wealth.  See in China, it's all about money.

Even better (and available on YouTube without HBO) is the episode 4 
extra which shows how far Chinese business skills have gone selling 
plastic life like sex dolls (I won't provide a link since it would upset 
Alex and Yahoo but just search on YouTube for HBO VICE).

VICE is a Bill Maher production and episodes show news stories that our 
fascist US news media won't show.  Episode one is definitely rated NOT 
FOR BUCK as you will get to see what actually happens when bombs go off 
in foreign countries though it may not shock those of us who watch 
modern horror films or "The Walking Dead."  Anyway it is a great series 
and I've been catching up via Comcast VOD.

Incidentally the  second half of episode 4 is about economic protests in 
Europe. We could use a few of Spain's protesters to teach the US 99% how 
to handle things.  OTOH, keep Greece's right wingers out of the US.

Tied into that we learned about a study this week that says that strong 
men tend to be conservative and weak men liberal.  Except I've known a 
few strong liberal who could kick conservative asses and it doesn't take 
into account some of the bow-tie conservatives. It says that 
conservative believe in "working hard" but of course that's because they 
don't know how to "work smart" like us liberals.  But I sure wouldn't 
use mild-mannered Mr. Limpit Thom Hartmann as an example of anyone 
liberal (oops, Thom just seems to be a Democrat anymore).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakrapani Jyotish predictions for 2013-2014

[feste37]

I like this bit. Explains quite nicely why the US is the most violent, 
ruthless, warlike country on the planet. (But why do Americans not see this?)
 
>From Chakrapani's forecast for the US:

When one reflects on these qualities, it is apparent how Mars figures 
prominently in the United States' Natal chart. The U.S.'s Natal Mars is 
powerfully situated in the 7th house, aspected by 10th house Saturn, a uniquely 
strong position. Mars and Saturn both form a strong backbone to the USA's Natal 
chart and figure significantly in the identity of America. Mars, like Saturn, 
is a revolutionary, an agent of change; they create war, they create unrest, 
they create global upheaval. They have an agenda and they will have their way. 
This is why, as I have said before, during the major cycle of Mars, the U.S. 
will not be able to escape war or warlike circumstances of some kind. This will 
be the case until 2015, regardless of any efforts that Obama or the government 
may make to end war.

Currently Mars is the ruling planet for Vijaya, and the US chart is operating 
in the Mars Dasha, essentially highlighting and bringing to the fore the U.S.A. 
Natal Mars. One consequence of this heightened Mars influence is that, as a 
country, we are in a period that attracts conflict and war, within and without. 
In fact, the United States has long been involved in war, either inside or 
outside its border because Mars plays such an essential role in the identity of 
the country. With the current Mars Dasha and with regards to the Vijaya year, 
the role of Mars is emphasized, resulting in challenges, war, conflicts, 
problems, and disagreements.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
> wrote:
> >
> > http://chakrapanivedicastrology.wordpress.com/category/yearly-predictions/2013-2014/
> >
> 
> Astounding, so President Obama is going to be facing challenges
> this year? 
> 
> Phew, they're really going out on a limb with this one.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God, Obama no match for Hitler Germany.

[feste37]

You are mounting a serious challenge to MJ for the title of FFL's Village 
Idiot. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > >
> > > Whew, sieg, instead of seig, Oh, and heil instead of hail, same 
> > > difference. Profound rebut! GMAB you also are a partisan hackhow sad 
> > > for you and this Country.
> > 
> > And you appear small minded and full of hate. I am in Canada by the way.
> 
> 
> Angry, actually, over the cheating the democrats did in the last election, I 
> was rooting for Romney! The democrats always feel they have to cheat, the 
> 'Dan Rather' syndrome I guess. 
> 
> But no one ever claimed Democrats had character so they have nothing to live 
> up to I guess.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakrapani Jyotish predictions for 2013-2014

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> http://chakrapanivedicastrology.wordpress.com/category/yearly-predictions/2013-2014/
>

Astounding, so President Obama is going to be facing challenges
this year? 

Phew, they're really going out on a limb with this one.

[FairfieldLife] Chakrapani Jyotish predictions for 2013-2014

[Alex Stanley]

http://chakrapanivedicastrology.wordpress.com/category/yearly-predictions/2013-2014/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?

[Share Long]

Fascinating article, thanks for posting.  I like that he sees texting as a good 
development.  It seems like we humans are always trying to find the best ways 
to express to the outside what is inside us.  





 From: martyboi 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:03 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?
 


  

I think you would might find this interesting:

http://blog.ted.com/2013/04/22/texting-as-a-miraculous-thing-6-ways-our-generation-is-redefining-communication/


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saami language

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
> > >
> > > ¨
> > > Saami language is a Uralic language related to Finnish, Estonian and 
> > > Hungarian.
> > > 
> > > Nowadaze it's spoken (by a couple of thousand human beans)
> > > at least in the northernmost parts of Norway, Finland and
> > > Russia.
> > > 
> > > For me at least it seems to have the same kind of primitive
> > > power as some saama-vedic stuff.
> > 
> > According to Maharishi joik is Sama Veda.
> >
> 
> A bit hard to believe because most joiks (yoiku-s) seem
> to consist of a couple of apparently "nonsensical" syllables
> (lay, loi, etc.)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpN9JF_4aS8
>

FWIW:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imitation_of_sounds_in_shamanism

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > Nonsense.
> > >
> authfriend:
> > Oh, a well-formulated scientific argument, salyavin. ;-)
> > 
> > My assertion stands, even without the parenthetical. Brains
> > and consciousness are very highly *correlated*, but that
> > doesn't nail causation. Faucets and water are very highly
> > correlated; does that mean faucets *cause* water? See, I
> > can make the water appear and disappear just by turning the
> > faucet handle! That's like bonking you on the head and
> > making your consciousness disappear, right?
> > 
> > Ever read any David Chalmers?
> >
> What we need is an operational definition of 
> consciousness and altered states of consciousness and 
> what, if any, are the neural correlates - that's 
> neuroscience.

If any?

Maybe while they're at it they'll find some correlates
between drinking wine and getting drunk. Or between
head injuries and brain impairement. As bizarre as those
ideas seem to us now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saami language

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
> >
> > ¨
> > Saami language is a Uralic language related to Finnish, Estonian and 
> > Hungarian.
> > 
> > Nowadaze it's spoken (by a couple of thousand human beans)
> > at least in the northernmost parts of Norway, Finland and
> > Russia.
> > 
> > For me at least it seems to have the same kind of primitive
> > power as some saama-vedic stuff.
> 
> According to Maharishi joik is Sama Veda.
>

A bit hard to believe because most joiks (yoiku-s) seem
to consist of a couple of apparently "nonsensical" syllables
(lay, loi, etc.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpN9JF_4aS8

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[doctordumbass]

Yes, agreed. Not many long time meditators at the edge of their seats waiting 
for that next announcement from the TMO. I really wanted them to build Veda 
Land, in the 80's, near Niagara Falls. Some of the rides and illusions sounded 
dorky, but others, like the levitating temple I think it was, sounded really 
cool.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Susan, Perhaps just keeping TM in the news is enough. Also the bar is set 
> > pretty low for spiritual organizations, so by keeping their noses 
> > relatively clean, there is a big advantage for the TMO being mentioned in 
> > the news. They don't have to do anything particularly impressive, just have 
> > TM available as a product, for those interested. 
> 
> True.  I was thinking mainly of the people already doing TM for years and 
> years and having some knowledge of the inside stuff - with them, credibility 
> is nearly nil.  For the public, just getting the TM name out there is quite 
> effective.  People are starved for relief from stress, for quiet.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > > > > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > > > > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > > > > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > > > > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > > > > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > > > > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > The existence of which they have possibly only been
> > > > told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> > > > *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> > > > groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Exactly.  And I am sure they will go and look it over.  But really, the 
> > > TMO is now in a position where no one takes the news or info or pr 
> > > seriously at all. People just discount it and move on.   So now if 
> > > something legitimately great is going on, no one responds.  Too many 
> > > years of hype, exaggeration.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> > > > supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> > > > the group consisted of at most 300 people. 
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > > > > > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I 
> > > > > > agree with you on many things, not this. The people who chose to 
> > > > > > get paid to meditate in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I 
> > > > > > think most are well over 25.  Perhaps this was a really good thing 
> > > > > > for them.  And I don't think it was 8 hrs per day, either.  Maybe 
> > > > > > they had nothing else to do anyway, and so this was good.  Buck 
> > > > > > would know for sure, but I think this offer was around for about 5 
> > > > > > years?  So these people did not spend 30 years doing this.  If by 
> > > > > > their 50's or so these people had nothing else going and are living 
> > > > > > in Fairfield and have tons of free time, well then that is a 
> > > > > > problem (or maybe just a situation) you can't really blame on the 
> > > > > > TMO.  At some point they are responsible for their own choices.  My 
> > > > > > guess is that for some, this was about all they could manage and 
> > > > > > meant alot. Good for them, they got lucky for a while.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs 
> > > > > > > in the US.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the 
> > > > > > > > Movement leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, 
> > > > > > > > it encourages people to lead a very dysfunctional and 
> > > > > > > > impractical lifestyle - to be sitting with the eyes closed 8 
> > > > > > > > hours a day and earning no money so that when the Movement 
> > > > > > > > donors jerk the rug out from under, you are left with no job, 
> > > > > > > > no job skills and no place to go.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in 
> > > > > > > > come tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >   From: Ann 
> > > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stand By Me

[Share Long]

Love this song and even from the first few notes, it evokes in me a mental 
image of a sandy beach.  Maybe where I was when I first heard it.  OTOH I 
clearly remember the circumstances of hearing I Wanna Hold Your Hand for the 
first time.  Having been saturated by, on one hand, folk singers like Peter, 
Paul and Mary and on the other hand by Motown performers like Sam and Dave, the 
Crystals, I was riveted by the sound of the Beatles' music.  It was so 
different than anything I had heard up til then. 





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stand By Me
 


  
On another forum far more limited in scope than even this one, I occasionally 
chat with a handful of people who went to the same high school I did. This is 
not quite as lame as it sounds, because the whole school had 30 students, and 
was located near Casablanca, Morocco. It was a cool place to go to high school, 
and made the experience more bearable. 

Anway, on this forum, one of the people I remember well from that time has been 
entertaining people by posting links to old songs that we literally used to 
dance to in the Teen Club during that period. It's been a veritable 
nostalgiafest. Today he posted Ben E. King's classic song, and folks went wild. 

Below is the original version of this song, followed by a number of cover 
versions. John captures the magic of the song best in the intro to the first 
cover version, but the last one is the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg7YoXiKn0 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYt0ZScWZDI 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGqeZZt98o 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM 

It's fascinating to me how popular this song was at the time, and how popular 
it still is today. It has touched so many people, over so many years. I can 
remember *exactly* where I was and what I was doing the first time I heard it. 
It stopped me in my tracks and forged an indelible impression in my mind. I can 
remember the lyrics 52 years later as clearly as John did. 

I guess the the music stands by us, even if little else does. 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God, Obama no match for Hitler Germany.

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > Whew, sieg, instead of seig, Oh, and heil instead of hail, same difference. 
> > Profound rebut! GMAB you also are a partisan hackhow sad for you and 
> > this Country.
> 
> And you appear small minded and full of hate. I am in Canada by the way.


Angry, actually, over the cheating the democrats did in the last election, I 
was rooting for Romney! The democrats always feel they have to cheat, the 'Dan 
Rather' syndrome I guess. 

But no one ever claimed Democrats had character so they have nothing to live up 
to I guess.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God, Obama no match for Hitler Germany.

[Richard J. Williams]

wgm4u:
> He may have the ministry of propaganda (the liberal 
> state run press), he may have the IRS, he may have 
> the Justice department, but he'll never have the 
> approval of the American people.
>
"The theory is that establishment Republicans appreciated 
the suppression of the Tea Party." Go figure.

Althouse:
http://tinyurl.com/aszkkxv

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Nonsense.
> >
authfriend:
> Oh, a well-formulated scientific argument, salyavin. ;-)
> 
> My assertion stands, even without the parenthetical. Brains
> and consciousness are very highly *correlated*, but that
> doesn't nail causation. Faucets and water are very highly
> correlated; does that mean faucets *cause* water? See, I
> can make the water appear and disappear just by turning the
> faucet handle! That's like bonking you on the head and
> making your consciousness disappear, right?
> 
> Ever read any David Chalmers?
>
What we need is an operational definition of 
consciousness and altered states of consciousness and 
what, if any, are the neural correlates - that's 
neuroscience.

According to Ken Wilber, there may be a spectrum of 
consciousness. Wilber has described consciousness as a 
spectrum, with ordinary awareness at one end, and the 
more profound types of awareness at higher levels.

Most philosophers who do not accept the possibility of 
zombies, so there seems to be a self-awareness to 
consciousness. Is consciousness the product of biology
or is biology the result of being conscious? It's 
like comparing apples to oranges.

'The Spectrum of Consciousness'
by Ken Wilber
Quest Books, 1993
pp. 3–16. 

[FairfieldLife] Mother-Baby_Programme

[merlin]

http://www.mum-news.org/rol/Mother-Baby_Programme_MERU-CH/M&B_Programme_MERU-Switzerland_ENG3.html

[FairfieldLife] Stand By Me

[turquoiseb]

On another forum far more limited in scope than even this one, I
occasionally chat with a handful of people who went to the same high
school I did. This is not quite as lame as it sounds, because the whole
school had 30 students, and was located near Casablanca, Morocco. It was
a cool place to go to high school, and made the experience more
bearable.

Anway, on this forum, one of the people I remember well from that time
has been entertaining people by posting links to old songs that we
literally used to dance to in the Teen Club during that period. It's
been a veritable nostalgiafest. Today he posted Ben E. King's classic
song, and folks went wild.

Below is the original version of this song, followed by a number of
cover versions. John captures the magic of the song best in the intro to
the first cover version, but the last one is the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg7YoXiKn0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM <
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_ghOG9JQM>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYt0ZScWZDI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGqeZZt98o <
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bGqeZZt98o>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM


It's fascinating to me how popular this song was at the time, and how
popular it still is today. It has touched so many people, over so many
years. I can remember *exactly* where I was and what I was doing the
first time I heard it. It stopped me in my tracks and forged an
indelible impression in my mind. I can remember the lyrics 52 years
later as clearly as John did.

I guess the the music stands by us, even if little else does.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

Where have the required numbers (according to the hypothesis) been gathered in 
the *same* location? What is the predicted result? Where are the results 
documented, and how closely do they match the predictions?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> How have has the project failed?
> 
> The project in this specific location, Fairfield, IA, didn't meet its goals. 
> Allegedly, the project in Mexico HAS met its goals with many thousands of 
> kids (65,000?) learning the TM-Sidhis over the next few years in a single 
> province within a single time-zone who are meant to practice at the same time 
> every day during school:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SZgisNTJ1-A#t=499s
> 
> 
> L
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Fairfield,Iowa failed to achieve a critical mass hence the money is 
> > > better spent somewhere else.  Money is money and these are noble 
> > > scientists who are also business people expecting results from their 
> > > money.  Who could blame them for the poor results in the Fairfield Dome 
> > > numbers here.  The shame is that people like even the list of lurkers on 
> > > this list did not come out more for the project of meditating together.  
> > > It was the large high-minded scientific experiment seeking data yet.  The 
> > > shame is with the people who did not come who do know better.  Fairfield 
> > > failed the sample size.  More than anyone, I should blame some people 
> > > here on this very internet list who failed to help us all by not coming 
> > > to meditation.  That was the incredibly lost opportunity.  That is a 
> > > shame on them, the ones who did not come to help when help was needed.
> > > -Buck in the Dome   
> > 
> > Blaming others for what one oneself has failed to achieve is a small way to 
> > approach this. An organisation that claims to have supreme knowledge and 
> > fails to accomplish its stated goals clearly does not have supreme 
> > knowledge. Of course many an institution may state certain goals publicly, 
> > but has other goals privately. Some suspect that the goal was simply to 
> > pump money into the coffers to support the hierarchical pyramid. That such 
> > an idea might cross the mind of meditators is not entirely due to their 
> > imagination. Because MUM has self-defeating goals for getting people into 
> > the dome, while the course of action is unfathomable, the result is not 
> > entirely inconceivable.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you in a cult?

[martyboi]

I think you would might find this interesting:

http://blog.ted.com/2013/04/22/texting-as-a-miraculous-thing-6-ways-our-generation-is-redefining-communication/

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[sparaig]

How have has the project failed?

The project in this specific location, Fairfield, IA, didn't meet its goals. 
Allegedly, the project in Mexico HAS met its goals with many thousands of kids 
(65,000?) learning the TM-Sidhis over the next few years in a single province 
within a single time-zone who are meant to practice at the same time every day 
during school:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SZgisNTJ1-A#t=499s


L



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Fairfield,Iowa failed to achieve a critical mass hence the money is better 
> > spent somewhere else.  Money is money and these are noble scientists who 
> > are also business people expecting results from their money.  Who could 
> > blame them for the poor results in the Fairfield Dome numbers here.  The 
> > shame is that people like even the list of lurkers on this list did not 
> > come out more for the project of meditating together.  It was the large 
> > high-minded scientific experiment seeking data yet.  The shame is with the 
> > people who did not come who do know better.  Fairfield failed the sample 
> > size.  More than anyone, I should blame some people here on this very 
> > internet list who failed to help us all by not coming to meditation.  That 
> > was the incredibly lost opportunity.  That is a shame on them, the ones who 
> > did not come to help when help was needed.
> > -Buck in the Dome   
> 
> Blaming others for what one oneself has failed to achieve is a small way to 
> approach this. An organisation that claims to have supreme knowledge and 
> fails to accomplish its stated goals clearly does not have supreme knowledge. 
> Of course many an institution may state certain goals publicly, but has other 
> goals privately. Some suspect that the goal was simply to pump money into the 
> coffers to support the hierarchical pyramid. That such an idea might cross 
> the mind of meditators is not entirely due to their imagination. Because MUM 
> has self-defeating goals for getting people into the dome, while the course 
> of action is unfathomable, the result is not entirely inconceivable.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

Nabby, what is your thing about Buddhists? They are one of the few traditions 
that proclaim enlightenment is possible, and produce at least some examples of 
persons that would seem to fit that category of realisation.

If you want enlightened people in this dark world, take what you can get.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  
> > 
> > The existence of which they have possibly only been
> > told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> > *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> > groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> > 
> > Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> > supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> > the group consisted of at most 300 people. 
> 
> 
> The Turq has been arrested on this before but it seems it doesn't fit into 
> his Buddhist-anti-TM-propaganda scheme so he continues to spread the lie.  
> There was 10.000 meditating together at that occasion but not on the same 
> location.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
(snip)
> Bio-electrical impulses from the nervous system power the 
> brain.  This enables the functioning of the live animated 
> brain, which in turn perceives the universe.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_neural_network
> 
> Judy is on a different page.  She is talking about the 
> macro-consciousness (cosmic)(wholistic).
> 
> Salyawin is talking about micro-consciousness 
> (individual)(descrete).

Good grief, Jason, you are a *genius* at misinterpreting
what you read. Please do us a big favor and stop trying
to help us out! Macro vs. micro is a different issue that
neither salyavin nor I have been addressing here.




> 
> Who knows, both could be right.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Share Long]

Nabby, what made you think that?  And from another post:  what did you mean 
when you said joik is Sama Veda?  What is joik?  





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:31 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to an end.
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only that the Grant money 
> is come to an end.  The Fairfield Assembly will become something else.  The 
> donors felt there was more bang for the dollar funding going where there are 
> already much larger group meditations.  Their money is going to go where they 
> can support the really large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia. 

I predicted this here already several years ago. I shouldn't say "I told you 
so" but do it anyway :-)


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Fairfield,Iowa failed to achieve a critical mass hence the money is better 
> spent somewhere else.  Money is money and these are noble scientists who are 
> also business people expecting results from their money.  Who could blame 
> them for the poor results in the Fairfield Dome numbers here.  The shame is 
> that people like even the list of lurkers on this list did not come out more 
> for the project of meditating together.  It was the large high-minded 
> scientific experiment seeking data yet.  The shame is with the people who did 
> not come who do know better.  Fairfield failed the sample size.  More than 
> anyone, I should blame some people here on this very internet list who failed 
> to help us all by not coming to meditation.  That was the incredibly lost 
> opportunity.  That is a shame on them, the ones who did not come to help when 
> help was needed.
> -Buck in the Dome   

Blaming others for what one oneself has failed to achieve is a small way to 
approach this. An organisation that claims to have supreme knowledge and fails 
to accomplish its stated goals clearly does not have supreme knowledge. Of 
course many an institution may state certain goals publicly, but has other 
goals privately. Some suspect that the goal was simply to pump money into the 
coffers to support the hierarchical pyramid. That such an idea might cross the 
mind of meditators is not entirely due to their imagination. Because MUM has 
self-defeating goals for getting people into the dome, while the course of 
action is unfathomable, the result is not entirely inconceivable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  
> 
> The existence of which they have possibly only been
> told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> 
> Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> the group consisted of at most 300 people. 


The Turq has been arrested on this before but it seems it doesn't fit into his 
Buddhist-anti-TM-propaganda scheme so he continues to spread the lie.  
There was 10.000 meditating together at that occasion but not on the same 
location.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Suits and Robes

[srijau]

yellowish off-white is the colour of Leo the sign of rulership in Jyotish. 
Maharishi is also on record as recommending white to wear as it the colour of 
Taurus the exaltation sign of moon .
 Wearing colours like black or red can favour more frustrating or angry 
circumstances, depending on the specifics of one's birth chart.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Raja attire aside, does anyone know why all the other TM teachers at the top 
> level all dress alike - is there some spiritual significance to wearing gold 
> ties and fawn colored suits?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Share Long]

Jason, can you know 100% for sure that those future historians aren't already 
studying FFL right now?  I figure that people in the future will know how to 
time travel.  Mightn't some of them choose to visit this time?  Mightn't some 
of them be interested in studying the evolution of social networks?  Mightn't 
the Funny Farm Lounge be irresistible to at least one of them?!  I'm just 
sayin...





 From: Jason 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to an end.
 


  

> 
> ---  doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > "The existence of which they have possibly only been told about."
> > 
> > You must have been a real sucker in Maharishi's and/or Lenz's group, 
> > because you keep making up this story of people blindly believing what they 
> > are told, as if you are trying to recreate such a situation in your 
> > consciousness, or have not yet been able to move past it.
> 
>
---  "Ann"  wrote:
>
> Barry is the bluffiest guy around. He just makes up things - all the time. 
> Here is an example of a Barry bluff (for those who skim posts quickly, this 
> is a spoof by Ann, not actually written by Barry so no one needs to get their 
> proverbial knickers in a twist:
> 
> Barry:
> "I am constantly amazed by the attention junkies here who insist on wearing 
> purple polka dotted underwear and then having to TELL us about them. You just 
> know they can't help themselves. They sit there, in front of their computers, 
> and imagine how great they look sporting their Fruit of The Looms festooned 
> with those purple dots. How PATHETIC can someone be? Day after day these 
> kinds of people just sit and dream of the boy cut briefs and thongs they are 
> going to buy when the purple boxers they currently own wear out. How pathetic 
> and narcissistic; WHAT A WASTE OF SKIN these losers too stupid to live are. 
> Don't they realize that there are so many other colours to choose from and 
> they are stuck in their pathetic need to don purple?
> 
> And day after shitty day we are subjected to their neediness by TELLING US 
> how great these undergarments look. Don't they realize the rest of us don't 
> give a SHIT? I abandoned my purple polka dotted boxers a long time ago. When 
> are these losers going to realize life has moved past them - to the orange 
> stripes?
> 
> But by all means, carry on you purple polka dotted STUPID LOSERS. I, for one, 
> don't bother to read your clique-y, juvenile raptures on the benefits of such 
> undergarments. If the rest of you enjoy it, be my guest but I've got a canal 
> or two to dredge."
> > 

This sums up everything that happened in FFL for the past 13 
years.  For a bunch of people with one foot in the grave, 
this is just incredible.

Maybe, 200 years in the future, this could be a part of the 
archives of TM history. Valuable research material for future 
historians.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only that the Grant money 
> is come to an end.  The Fairfield Assembly will become something else.  The 
> donors felt there was more bang for the dollar funding going where there are 
> already much larger group meditations.  Their money is going to go where they 
> can support the really large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  


I predicted this here already several years ago. I shouldn't say "I told you 
so" but do it anyway :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saami language

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card"  wrote:
>
> ¨
> Saami language is a Uralic language related to Finnish, Estonian and 
> Hungarian.
> 
> Nowadaze it's spoken (by a couple of thousand human beans)
> at least in the northernmost parts of Norway, Finland and
> Russia.
> 
> For me at least it seems to have the same kind of primitive
> power as some saama-vedic stuff.

According to Maharishi joik is Sama Veda.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Jason]

> 
> ---  doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > "The existence of which they have possibly only been told about."
> > 
> > You must have been a real sucker in Maharishi's and/or Lenz's group, 
> > because you keep making up this story of people blindly believing what they 
> > are told, as if you are trying to recreate such a situation in your 
> > consciousness, or have not yet been able to move past it.
> 
>
---  "Ann"  wrote:
>
> Barry is the bluffiest guy around. He just makes up things - all the time. 
> Here is an example of a Barry bluff (for those who skim posts quickly, this 
> is a spoof by Ann, not actually written by Barry so no one needs to get their 
> proverbial knickers in a twist:
> 
> Barry:
> "I am constantly amazed by the attention junkies here who insist on wearing 
> purple polka dotted underwear and then having to TELL us about them. You just 
> know they can't help themselves. They sit there, in front of their computers, 
> and imagine how great they look sporting their Fruit of The Looms festooned 
> with those purple dots. How PATHETIC can someone be? Day after day these 
> kinds of people just sit and dream of the boy cut briefs and thongs they are 
> going to buy when the purple boxers they currently own wear out. How pathetic 
> and narcissistic; WHAT A WASTE OF SKIN these losers too stupid to live are. 
> Don't they realize that there are so many other colours to choose from and 
> they are stuck in their pathetic need to don purple?
> 
> And day after shitty day we are subjected to their neediness by TELLING US 
> how great these undergarments look. Don't they realize the rest of us don't 
> give a SHIT? I abandoned my purple polka dotted boxers a long time ago. When 
> are these losers going to realize life has moved past them - to the orange 
> stripes?
> 
> But by all means, carry on you purple polka dotted STUPID LOSERS. I, for one, 
> don't bother to read your clique-y, juvenile raptures on the benefits of such 
> undergarments. If the rest of you enjoy it, be my guest but I've got a canal 
> or two to dredge."
> > 

This sums up everything that happened in FFL for the past 13 
years.  For a bunch of people with one foot in the grave, 
this is just incredible.

Maybe, 200 years in the future, this could be a part of the 
archives of TM history. Valuable research material for future 
historians.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

[Jason]

> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something
> > > > > > > > > complex and assume that it must have been created
> > > > > > > > > by something more complex. This was Darwins genius
> > > > > > > > > as he showed it isn't the case where biology is 
> > > > > > > > > concerned.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > But not where human consciousness is concerned.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That's a belief. And a strange one.
> > 
> > It's also just a belief that biology is responsible for human
> > consciousness.
> 
> ?
>  
> > Is your personal conviction that it's all biology a function of
> > biology?
> > 
> > That seems to me a lot stranger, frankly.
> > 
> > I'm not arguing against evolution, BTW. That's settled, as far
> > as I'm concerned.
> 
> You've stopped making sense.
>  
> > The problem is that it can't account for human consciousness--
> > e.g., for Judy and salyavin each having a perspective on an
> > issue, for our arguing about which of those perspectives is
> > correct (or at least more likely).
> > 
> > > > > > > There isn't any reason to
> > > > > > > think human consciousness hasn't evolved. Quite the 
> > > > > > > opposite. Look at the brains of other animals both
> > > > > > > living and extinct, you can easily plot on a graph
> > > > > > > how the brain has evolved over the millenia and from
> > > > > > > there see what animals had what skills and what the 
> > > > > > > difference in structures must mean to our awareness
> > > > > > > and thought capability.
> > 
> > Where does one find in the human brain the structures that
> > account for, e.g., personal perspectives on whether human 
> > consciousness is explained by biology? If you know of any,
> > *how* do you know?
> > 
> > > > > > *Brains* have evolved. But until/unless we crack the "hard
> > > > > > problem," we can have no idea what the differences in brain
> > > > > > structures might mean with regard to human awareness and
> > > > > > thought.
> > > > > 
> > > > > As it's brains that cause consciousness (get someone to hit
> > > > > you on the head with a heavy object if you don't believe me)
> > > > 
> > > > Brains seem to be necessary for consciousness to function
> > > 
> > > Seem?
> > 
> > Yes, because of what I went on to mention:
> > 
> > > > (although there's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the
> > > > contrary)
> > > 
> > > If only the plural of anecdote was data.
> > 
> > Indeed.
> > 
> > > I think what you mean to say is that some people mistake
> > > altered states of consciousness for something that's
> > > happening somehow outside of them.
> > 
> > No, that is not what I mean to say. In fact, actual data
> > are involved (including data from observers), just not the
> > kind that we have the means to replicate by the standard
> > scientific methods. (OTOH, there are some creative solutions
> > to this problem that propose nonstandard methodology that
> > *should* stand up to skeptical scrutiny. But that's another
> > story.)
> > 
> > > , but that doesn't mean they *cause* consciousness.
> > > 
> > > Nonsense.
> > 
> > Oh, a well-formulated scientific argument, salyavin. ;-)
> 
> I have a gift for encapsulation.
>
>
> ---  "authfriend"  wrote:
>  
> > My assertion stands, even without the parenthetical. Brains
> > and consciousness are very highly *correlated*, but that
> > doesn't nail causation. Faucets and water are very highly
> > correlated; does that mean faucets *cause* water? See, I
> > can make the water appear and disappear just by turning the
> > faucet handle! That's like bonking you on the head and
> > making your consciousness disappear, right?
> >
> >
---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> But if I believed that faucets (or "taps" as we prefer over here)
> caused water I'd be an idiot as you only have to look under
> the sink to see there is more to it than that.
> 
> If you have a reason to believe that consciousness pours in
> from somewhere it can't have been from looking under the sink
> of the brain because there isn't one or any reason to believe
> there is one, other than the fact you don't understand it.
> 
> Not understanding something isn't the same as it being involved
> in some super amazing extra thing that involves all or any
> mystical or quantum explanations, that's god talk. Perfectly
> natural but blaming "other" stuff hasn't demonstrated that it's
> a good way of working.
> 
>  

Bio-electrical impulses from the nervous system power the 
brain.  This enables the functioning of the live animated 
brain, which in turn perceives the universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_neural_network

Judy is on a different page.  She is talking about the 
macro-consciousness (cosmic)(wholistic).

Salyawin is talking about micro-co

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> "The existence of which they have possibly only been told about."
> 
> You must have been a real sucker in Maharishi's and/or Lenz's group, because 
> you keep making up this story of people blindly believing what they are told, 
> as if you are trying to recreate such a situation in your consciousness, or 
> have not yet been able to move past it.

Barry is the bluffiest guy around. He just makes up things - all the time. Here 
is an example of a Barry bluff (for those who skim posts quickly, this is a 
spoof by Ann, not actually written by Barry so no one needs to get their 
proverbial knickers in a twist:

Barry:
"I am constantly amazed by the attention junkies here who insist on wearing 
purple polka dotted underwear and then having to TELL us about them. You just 
know they can't help themselves. They sit there, in front of their computers, 
and imagine how great they look sporting their Fruit of The Looms festooned 
with those purple dots. How PATHETIC can someone be? Day after day these kinds 
of people just sit and dream of the boy cut briefs and thongs they are going to 
buy when the purple boxers they currently own wear out. How pathetic and 
narcissistic; WHAT A WASTE OF SKIN these losers too stupid to live are. Don't 
they realize that there are so many other colours to choose from and they are 
stuck in their pathetic need to don purple?

And day after shitty day we are subjected to their neediness by TELLING US how 
great these undergarments look. Don't they realize the rest of us don't give a 
SHIT? I abandoned my purple polka dotted boxers a long time ago. When are these 
losers going to realize life has moved past them - to the orange stripes?

But by all means, carry on you purple polka dotted STUPID LOSERS. I, for one, 
don't bother to read your clique-y, juvenile raptures on the benefits of such 
undergarments. If the rest of you enjoy it, be my guest but I've got a canal or 
two to dredge."
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  
> > 
> > The existence of which they have possibly only been
> > told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> > *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> > groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> > 
> > Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> > supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> > the group consisted of at most 300 people. 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > > > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree 
> > > > with you on many things, not this. The people who chose to get paid to 
> > > > meditate in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I think most are 
> > > > well over 25.  Perhaps this was a really good thing for them.  And I 
> > > > don't think it was 8 hrs per day, either.  Maybe they had nothing else 
> > > > to do anyway, and so this was good.  Buck would know for sure, but I 
> > > > think this offer was around for about 5 years?  So these people did not 
> > > > spend 30 years doing this.  If by their 50's or so these people had 
> > > > nothing else going and are living in Fairfield and have tons of free 
> > > > time, well then that is a problem (or maybe just a situation) you can't 
> > > > really blame on the TMO.  At some point they are responsible for their 
> > > > own choices.  My guess is that for some, this was about all they could 
> > > > manage and meant alot. Good for them, they got lucky for a while.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in 
> > > > > the US.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the 
> > > > > > Movement leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it 
> > > > > > encourages people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical 
> > > > > > lifestyle - to be sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and 
> > > > > > earning no money so that when the Movement donors jerk the rug out 
> > > > > > from under, you are left with no job, no job skills and no place to 
> > > > > > go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And that should be 50 for me. But b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.00

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
> I'm restarting the numbering on this series of raps, because I realized
> during last weekend's extended holiday weekend in Leiden what the real
> benefit of my gig in Paris is, for me. I get to surf.
>
Great, but you should have made the subject number
v18.3, since you've been posting eighteen years. LoL!

"Seeing occurs, of course, through stopping thought. 
Thought is the fog. When thought stops in meditation, 
at any point, when there's no thought, we see the other 
shore." - Zen Master Rama

http://www.ramaquotes.com/html/seeing.html 

> I live a ways away from the ocean, either in Leiden or in Paris, so it's
> not as if I ever get to put on a wetsuit and paddle out in search of a
> good wave. But, in both places, I still get to surf. Now that I've
> remembered this, I get to surf more mindfully.
> 
> This new work gig bounces me back and forth between Leiden, the
> Netherlands, and Paris, France. These places are different in many
> superficial ways, and tourists tend to notice those superficial
> differences. But for someone who spent some time studying with the weird
> Rama dude, there are deeper differences.
> 
> Different cities embody different mindstates, sometimes *very* different
> mindstates. If you're somewhat sensitive and have been trained how to
> recognize them, you can have a lot of fun figuring out the nuances of
> the different places and their different mindstates, and what it is that
> actually makes them different.
> 
> My term for this -- not Rama's -- is Surfing Mindscapes.
> 
> The mindscape of Leiden is Near-Inescapable Stillness. The mindscape of
> Paris is Easily-Escapable Stillness.
> 
> In Leiden I can be out walking, along a canal in my 'hood, and suddenly
> be almost overcome by the stillness. I mean, occasionally I have to
> search for the nearest bench and sit down and close my eyes to fully
> appreciate it, it's so still.
> 
> In Paris it's more like the stillness is lurking. You know, the way that
> 80% of FFL readers do. It's/they're there, but most people ignore
> it/them. There are, after all, so many here-and-now distractions in
> Paris, each of them stillness in their own way, but still, lurking. In
> Paris, it takes more will to notice and fully appreciate the stillness.
> You have to Pay Attention.
> 
> But the stillness is here. And there. And everywhere. I found some of it
> tonight, just walking through the quartier I'm living in.
> 
> The trick seems to be Paying Attention, and noticing it.
> 
> But that's only my Best Guess...For Now.  :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Susan, Perhaps just keeping TM in the news is enough. Also the bar is set 
> pretty low for spiritual organizations, so by keeping their noses relatively 
> clean, there is a big advantage for the TMO being mentioned in the news. They 
> don't have to do anything particularly impressive, just have TM available as 
> a product, for those interested. 

True.  I was thinking mainly of the people already doing TM for years and years 
and having some knowledge of the inside stuff - with them, credibility is 
nearly nil.  For the public, just getting the TM name out there is quite 
effective.  People are starved for relief from stress, for quiet.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > > > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > > > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > > > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > > > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > > > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > > > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia
> >   
> > > 
> > > The existence of which they have possibly only been
> > > told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> > > *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> > > groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Exactly.  And I am sure they will go and look it over.  But really, the TMO 
> > is now in a position where no one takes the news or info or pr seriously at 
> > all. People just discount it and move on.   So now if something 
> > legitimately great is going on, no one responds.  Too many years of hype, 
> > exaggeration.
> > 
> > 
> > > Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> > > supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> > > the group consisted of at most 300 people. 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > > > > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree 
> > > > > with you on many things, not this. The people who chose to get paid 
> > > > > to meditate in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I think most 
> > > > > are well over 25.  Perhaps this was a really good thing for them.  
> > > > > And I don't think it was 8 hrs per day, either.  Maybe they had 
> > > > > nothing else to do anyway, and so this was good.  Buck would know for 
> > > > > sure, but I think this offer was around for about 5 years?  So these 
> > > > > people did not spend 30 years doing this.  If by their 50's or so 
> > > > > these people had nothing else going and are living in Fairfield and 
> > > > > have tons of free time, well then that is a problem (or maybe just a 
> > > > > situation) you can't really blame on the TMO.  At some point they are 
> > > > > responsible for their own choices.  My guess is that for some, this 
> > > > > was about all they could manage and meant alot. Good for them, they 
> > > > > got lucky for a while.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in 
> > > > > > the US.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the 
> > > > > > > Movement leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it 
> > > > > > > encourages people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical 
> > > > > > > lifestyle - to be sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and 
> > > > > > > earning no money so that when the Movement donors jerk the rug 
> > > > > > > out from under, you are left with no job, no job skills and no 
> > > > > > > place to go.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in 
> > > > > > > come tomorrow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   From: Ann 
> > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to 
> > > > > > > an end.
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > > > >> That's going to hit some people hard. They've come to depend on 
> > > > > > >> that stipend.
> > > > > > > I saw this end to the grant thing on, of all places, FB a few 
> > > > > > > days ago. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[doctordumbass]

Susan, Perhaps just keeping TM in the news is enough. Also the bar is set 
pretty low for spiritual organizations, so by keeping their noses relatively 
clean, there is a big advantage for the TMO being mentioned in the news. They 
don't have to do anything particularly impressive, just have TM available as a 
product, for those interested. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia
>   
> > 
> > The existence of which they have possibly only been
> > told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> > *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> > groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> > 
> 
> Exactly.  And I am sure they will go and look it over.  But really, the TMO 
> is now in a position where no one takes the news or info or pr seriously at 
> all. People just discount it and move on.   So now if something legitimately 
> great is going on, no one responds.  Too many years of hype, exaggeration.
> 
> 
> > Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> > supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> > the group consisted of at most 300 people. 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > > > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree 
> > > > with you on many things, not this. The people who chose to get paid to 
> > > > meditate in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I think most are 
> > > > well over 25.  Perhaps this was a really good thing for them.  And I 
> > > > don't think it was 8 hrs per day, either.  Maybe they had nothing else 
> > > > to do anyway, and so this was good.  Buck would know for sure, but I 
> > > > think this offer was around for about 5 years?  So these people did not 
> > > > spend 30 years doing this.  If by their 50's or so these people had 
> > > > nothing else going and are living in Fairfield and have tons of free 
> > > > time, well then that is a problem (or maybe just a situation) you can't 
> > > > really blame on the TMO.  At some point they are responsible for their 
> > > > own choices.  My guess is that for some, this was about all they could 
> > > > manage and meant alot. Good for them, they got lucky for a while.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in 
> > > > > the US.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the 
> > > > > > Movement leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it 
> > > > > > encourages people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical 
> > > > > > lifestyle - to be sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and 
> > > > > > earning no money so that when the Movement donors jerk the rug out 
> > > > > > from under, you are left with no job, no job skills and no place to 
> > > > > > go.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in come 
> > > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   From: Ann 
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to 
> > > > > > an end.
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > > >> That's going to hit some people hard. They've come to depend on 
> > > > > >> that stipend.
> > > > > > I saw this end to the grant thing on, of all places, FB a few days 
> > > > > > ago. There it said people were paid $3.80 per hour to meditate in 
> > > > > > the Domes. Is that correct? Were there other monies paid for living 
> > > > > > expenses and travel to FF?
> > > 
> > > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > >>> Yep, Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of 
> > > > > >>> World Peace and President of Maharishi University of Management 
> > > > > >>> yesterday morning announced to the Invincible America Assembly 
> > > > > >>> the end of the Invincible America grant program.  The incredibly 
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[doctordumbass]

"The existence of which they have possibly only been told about."

You must have been a real sucker in Maharishi's and/or Lenz's group, because 
you keep making up this story of people blindly believing what they are told, 
as if you are trying to recreate such a situation in your consciousness, or 
have not yet been able to move past it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  
> 
> The existence of which they have possibly only been
> told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> 
> Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> the group consisted of at most 300 people. 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree with 
> > > you on many things, not this. The people who chose to get paid to 
> > > meditate in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I think most are well 
> > > over 25.  Perhaps this was a really good thing for them.  And I don't 
> > > think it was 8 hrs per day, either.  Maybe they had nothing else to do 
> > > anyway, and so this was good.  Buck would know for sure, but I think this 
> > > offer was around for about 5 years?  So these people did not spend 30 
> > > years doing this.  If by their 50's or so these people had nothing else 
> > > going and are living in Fairfield and have tons of free time, well then 
> > > that is a problem (or maybe just a situation) you can't really blame on 
> > > the TMO.  At some point they are responsible for their own choices.  My 
> > > guess is that for some, this was about all they could manage and meant 
> > > alot. Good for them, they got lucky for a while.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in the 
> > > > US.
> > > > 
> > > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the Movement 
> > > > > leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it encourages 
> > > > > people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical lifestyle - to be 
> > > > > sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and earning no money so 
> > > > > that when the Movement donors jerk the rug out from under, you are 
> > > > > left with no job, no job skills and no place to go.
> > > > >
> > > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in come 
> > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   From: Ann 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to an 
> > > > > end.
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >> That's going to hit some people hard. They've come to depend on that 
> > > > >> stipend.
> > > > > I saw this end to the grant thing on, of all places, FB a few days 
> > > > > ago. There it said people were paid $3.80 per hour to meditate in the 
> > > > > Domes. Is that correct? Were there other monies paid for living 
> > > > > expenses and travel to FF?
> > 
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >>> Yep, Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of 
> > > > >>> World Peace and President of Maharishi University of Management 
> > > > >>> yesterday morning announced to the Invincible America Assembly the 
> > > > >>> end of the Invincible America grant program.  The incredibly 
> > > > >>> high-minded program of subsidizing large group meditations by 
> > > > >>> granting stipends to people to facilitate larger numbers of people 
> > > > >>> being able to meditate together will wind down over the next three 
> > > > >>> months.  It was an incredibly generous gift of large civic thinking 
> > > > >>> to try to make a noble experiment work.  I am grateful to those who 
> > > > >>> gave to make it work, those who worked to administrate it and those 
> > > > >>> few who did come join to make it happen.
> > > > >>> -Buck in the Dome
> > > > >>>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> > that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> > Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> > there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> > there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> > money is going to go where they can support the really 
> > large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia
  
> 
> The existence of which they have possibly only been
> told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
> *go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
> groups of meditators before donating any money. 
> 

Exactly.  And I am sure they will go and look it over.  But really, the TMO is 
now in a position where no one takes the news or info or pr seriously at all. 
People just discount it and move on.   So now if something legitimately great 
is going on, no one responds.  Too many years of hype, exaggeration.


> Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
> supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
> the group consisted of at most 300 people. 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree with 
> > > you on many things, not this. The people who chose to get paid to 
> > > meditate in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I think most are well 
> > > over 25.  Perhaps this was a really good thing for them.  And I don't 
> > > think it was 8 hrs per day, either.  Maybe they had nothing else to do 
> > > anyway, and so this was good.  Buck would know for sure, but I think this 
> > > offer was around for about 5 years?  So these people did not spend 30 
> > > years doing this.  If by their 50's or so these people had nothing else 
> > > going and are living in Fairfield and have tons of free time, well then 
> > > that is a problem (or maybe just a situation) you can't really blame on 
> > > the TMO.  At some point they are responsible for their own choices.  My 
> > > guess is that for some, this was about all they could manage and meant 
> > > alot. Good for them, they got lucky for a while.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in the 
> > > > US.
> > > > 
> > > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the Movement 
> > > > > leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it encourages 
> > > > > people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical lifestyle - to be 
> > > > > sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and earning no money so 
> > > > > that when the Movement donors jerk the rug out from under, you are 
> > > > > left with no job, no job skills and no place to go.
> > > > >
> > > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in come 
> > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   From: Ann 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to an 
> > > > > end.
> > > > >   
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > >> That's going to hit some people hard. They've come to depend on that 
> > > > >> stipend.
> > > > > I saw this end to the grant thing on, of all places, FB a few days 
> > > > > ago. There it said people were paid $3.80 per hour to meditate in the 
> > > > > Domes. Is that correct? Were there other monies paid for living 
> > > > > expenses and travel to FF?
> > 
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > >>> Yep, Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of 
> > > > >>> World Peace and President of Maharishi University of Management 
> > > > >>> yesterday morning announced to the Invincible America Assembly the 
> > > > >>> end of the Invincible America grant program.  The incredibly 
> > > > >>> high-minded program of subsidizing large group meditations by 
> > > > >>> granting stipends to people to facilitate larger numbers of people 
> > > > >>> being able to meditate together will wind down over the next three 
> > > > >>> months.  It was an incredibly generous gift of large civic thinking 
> > > > >>> to try to make a noble experiment work.  I am grateful to those who 
> > > > >>> gave to make it work, those who worked to administrate it and those 
> > > > >>> few who did come join to make it happen.
> > > > >>> -Buck in the Dome
> > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 18-May-13 00:15:02 UTC

[doctordumbass]

MJ, Please tell Buddha hello from me, I received the "Bodhi tree" seeds 
yesterday, and lunch is still on for next week. PS Does he still want surf and 
turf?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:
> >
> > Fairfield Life Post Counter
> > ===
> > Start Date (UTC): 05/11/13 00:00:00
> > End Date (UTC): 05/18/13 00:00:00
> > 669 messages as of (UTC) 05/17/13 23:57:26
> > 
> > 51 Michael Jackson 
> 
> "Tell them all on FFL I shall spend the next week communing with Buddha. Then 
> I shall extend my darshan, and they will all become my disciples, especially 
> Ravi, Nabby, Feste and Dr Dummy."
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentecoste

[merudanda]

let's fly together

 
[http://l2.yimg.com/nn/fp/rsz/051713/images/smush/blackbird_635x250_1368\
808704.jpg] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-rDrLDRA0
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pentecoste

[merudanda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiRpXsWlZK4

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-rDrLDRA0
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Pentecoste

[merudanda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-rDrLDRA0
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only 
> that the Grant money is come to an end. The Fairfield 
> Assembly will become something else. The donors felt 
> there was more bang for the dollar funding going where 
> there are already much larger group meditations. Their 
> money is going to go where they can support the really 
> large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  

The existence of which they have possibly only been
told about. Let us hope that they actually demand to
*go* there and be *shown* these supposedly large 
groups of meditators before donating any money. 

Or has everyone forgotten the photographs of the
supposed group of "10,000 Mayans" that showed that
the group consisted of at most 300 people. 

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree with 
> > you on many things, not this. The people who chose to get paid to meditate 
> > in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I think most are well over 25.  
> > Perhaps this was a really good thing for them.  And I don't think it was 8 
> > hrs per day, either.  Maybe they had nothing else to do anyway, and so this 
> > was good.  Buck would know for sure, but I think this offer was around for 
> > about 5 years?  So these people did not spend 30 years doing this.  If by 
> > their 50's or so these people had nothing else going and are living in 
> > Fairfield and have tons of free time, well then that is a problem (or maybe 
> > just a situation) you can't really blame on the TMO.  At some point they 
> > are responsible for their own choices.  My guess is that for some, this was 
> > about all they could manage and meant alot. Good for them, they got lucky 
> > for a while.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in the US.
> > > 
> > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the Movement 
> > > > leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it encourages 
> > > > people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical lifestyle - to be 
> > > > sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and earning no money so that 
> > > > when the Movement donors jerk the rug out from under, you are left with 
> > > > no job, no job skills and no place to go.
> > > >
> > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > >
> > > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in come 
> > > > tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >   From: Ann 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to an 
> > > > end.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >> That's going to hit some people hard. They've come to depend on that 
> > > >> stipend.
> > > > I saw this end to the grant thing on, of all places, FB a few days ago. 
> > > > There it said people were paid $3.80 per hour to meditate in the Domes. 
> > > > Is that correct? Were there other monies paid for living expenses and 
> > > > travel to FF?
> 
> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >>> Yep, Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World 
> > > >>> Peace and President of Maharishi University of Management yesterday 
> > > >>> morning announced to the Invincible America Assembly the end of the 
> > > >>> Invincible America grant program.  The incredibly high-minded program 
> > > >>> of subsidizing large group meditations by granting stipends to people 
> > > >>> to facilitate larger numbers of people being able to meditate 
> > > >>> together will wind down over the next three months.  It was an 
> > > >>> incredibly generous gift of large civic thinking to try to make a 
> > > >>> noble experiment work.  I am grateful to those who gave to make it 
> > > >>> work, those who worked to administrate it and those few who did come 
> > > >>> join to make it happen.
> > > >>> -Buck in the Dome
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Buck]

Fairfield,Iowa failed to achieve a critical mass hence the money is better 
spent somewhere else.  Money is money and these are noble scientists who are 
also business people expecting results from their money.  Who could blame them 
for the poor results in the Fairfield Dome numbers here.  The shame is that 
people like even the list of lurkers on this list did not come out more for the 
project of meditating together.  It was the large high-minded scientific 
experiment seeking data yet.  The shame is with the people who did not come who 
do know better.  Fairfield failed the sample size.  More than anyone, I should 
blame some people here on this very internet list who failed to help us all by 
not coming to meditation.  That was the incredibly lost opportunity.  That is a 
shame on them, the ones who did not come to help when help was needed.
-Buck in the Dome   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only that the Grant money 
> is come to an end.  The Fairfield Assembly will become something else.  The 
> donors felt there was more bang for the dollar funding going where there are 
> already much larger group meditations.  Their money is going to go where they 
> can support the really large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very 
> > generous, actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree with 
> > you on many things, not this. The people who chose to get paid to meditate 
> > in the Domes are adults (not serfs) - and I think most are well over 25.  
> > Perhaps this was a really good thing for them.  And I don't think it was 8 
> > hrs per day, either.  Maybe they had nothing else to do anyway, and so this 
> > was good.  Buck would know for sure, but I think this offer was around for 
> > about 5 years?  So these people did not spend 30 years doing this.  If by 
> > their 50's or so these people had nothing else going and are living in 
> > Fairfield and have tons of free time, well then that is a problem (or maybe 
> > just a situation) you can't really blame on the TMO.  At some point they 
> > are responsible for their own choices.  My guess is that for some, this was 
> > about all they could manage and meant alot. Good for them, they got lucky 
> > for a while.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in the US.
> > > 
> > > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the Movement 
> > > > leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it encourages 
> > > > people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical lifestyle - to be 
> > > > sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and earning no money so that 
> > > > when the Movement donors jerk the rug out from under, you are left with 
> > > > no job, no job skills and no place to go.
> > > >
> > > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > > >
> > > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in come 
> > > > tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >   From: Ann 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to an 
> > > > end.
> > > >   
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > >> That's going to hit some people hard. They've come to depend on that 
> > > >> stipend.
> > > > I saw this end to the grant thing on, of all places, FB a few days ago. 
> > > > There it said people were paid $3.80 per hour to meditate in the Domes. 
> > > > Is that correct? Were there other monies paid for living expenses and 
> > > > travel to FF?
> 
> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >>> Yep, Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World 
> > > >>> Peace and President of Maharishi University of Management yesterday 
> > > >>> morning announced to the Invincible America Assembly the end of the 
> > > >>> Invincible America grant program.  The incredibly high-minded program 
> > > >>> of subsidizing large group meditations by granting stipends to people 
> > > >>> to facilitate larger numbers of people being able to meditate 
> > > >>> together will wind down over the next three months.  It was an 
> > > >>> incredibly generous gift of large civic thinking to try to make a 
> > > >>> noble experiment work.  I am grateful to those who gave to make it 
> > > >>> work, those who worked to administrate it and those few who did come 
> > > >>> join to make it happen.
> > > >>> -Buck in the Dome
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It is over. Our Largesse is Come to an end.

[Buck]

This is not the end of the Assembly in Fairfield, only that the Grant money is 
come to an end.  The Fairfield Assembly will become something else.  The donors 
felt there was more bang for the dollar funding going where there are already 
much larger group meditations.  Their money is going to go where they can 
support the really large groups of meditators in Latin America and Asia.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> I think it was a pretty nice offer to pay people to meditate.  Very generous, 
> actually, on the donor's part.  And Michael, while I agree with you on many 
> things, not this. The people who chose to get paid to meditate in the Domes 
> are adults (not serfs) - and I think most are well over 25.  Perhaps this was 
> a really good thing for them.  And I don't think it was 8 hrs per day, 
> either.  Maybe they had nothing else to do anyway, and so this was good.  
> Buck would know for sure, but I think this offer was around for about 5 
> years?  So these people did not spend 30 years doing this.  If by their 50's 
> or so these people had nothing else going and are living in Fairfield and 
> have tons of free time, well then that is a problem (or maybe just a 
> situation) you can't really blame on the TMO.  At some point they are 
> responsible for their own choices.  My guess is that for some, this was about 
> all they could manage and meant alot. Good for them, they got lucky for a 
> while.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > TMO Serfs.  Now they can join the other growing number of serfs in the US.
> > 
> > On 05/17/2013 06:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > > The deal was 800 bucks a month if you qualify. As usual the Movement 
> > > leave you in the lurch in the end. More to the point, it encourages 
> > > people to lead a very dysfunctional and impractical lifestyle - to be 
> > > sitting with the eyes closed 8 hours a day and earning no money so that 
> > > when the Movement donors jerk the rug out from under, you are left with 
> > > no job, no job skills and no place to go.
> > >
> > > What a bunch of asses. They think only of themselves.
> > >
> > > And that should be 50 for me. But believe me, I will weigh in come 
> > > tomorrow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >   From: Ann 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:35 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It is over.  Our Largesse is Come to an end.
> > >   
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >> That's going to hit some people hard. They've come to depend on that 
> > >> stipend.
> > > I saw this end to the grant thing on, of all places, FB a few days ago. 
> > > There it said people were paid $3.80 per hour to meditate in the Domes. 
> > > Is that correct? Were there other monies paid for living expenses and 
> > > travel to FF?

> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >>> Yep, Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World 
> > >>> Peace and President of Maharishi University of Management yesterday 
> > >>> morning announced to the Invincible America Assembly the end of the 
> > >>> Invincible America grant program.  The incredibly high-minded program 
> > >>> of subsidizing large group meditations by granting stipends to people 
> > >>> to facilitate larger numbers of people being able to meditate together 
> > >>> will wind down over the next three months.  It was an incredibly 
> > >>> generous gift of large civic thinking to try to make a noble experiment 
> > >>> work.  I am grateful to those who gave to make it work, those who 
> > >>> worked to administrate it and those few who did come join to make it 
> > >>> happen.
> > >>> -Buck in the Dome
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Magnetic Mind Control!

[salyavin808]

Brain-controlling magnets: how do they work?
Transcranial magnetic stimulation alters the activity of the brain
without the need for an invasive physical procedure. But for such a
ground-breaking and potentially alarming technique, it is not very well
known


If you were to tell people that the technology exists to manipulate the
workings of people's brains, they may not believe you. That sort of
thing is the stuff of cheap sci-fi B movies. If someone in the real
world were to try to develop it, that's exactly the sort of scenario
where they'd send James Bond in to stop them before it got too far.

But the fact is that this technology genuinely exists and is widely used
in neuroscientific research. It is known as Transcranial magnetic
stimulation
 , or
TMS, and as the name suggests it stimulates the brain through the
cranium  using magnetism.

Magnets and the brain work together a lot. Neuroscience
  is an
increasinglymedia-friendly
  area of science, and this is due in part to the increasing use
ofmagnetic resonance imaging
  (MRI), an invaluable but complex technique
that uses intense magnetic fields and radio waves to produce
eye-catching images of a working body and brain.

TMS takes this brain-magnet relationship a step further. Rather than
just passively looking and observing as the brain goes about its
business, these advanced electromagnets actually alter the activity of
targeted brain regions by inducing a localised varying magnetic field
that causes a weak electrical current
 . This might sound like a bad idea (like licking a
battery, but with your temporal lobe rather than your tongue) but it's
perfectly logical. The brain does what it does via electrical currents
  conducted by neurons
 , and these currents are
what keep our numerous organs and anatomical areas working as one
cohesive whole  , which is
important for things like playing sports and staying alive for more than
three seconds. TMS simply causes these electrical currents, which the
body generates all the time
 , to occur at higher levels in certain targeted areas of
the brain.

The technique relies on placing a coil (of varying design
  and
composition
 , depending on what you want to do) on the scalp of your
conscious subject, above the area you hope to stimulate, and turning it
on. The biophysics behind what occurs is fascinating, albeit complex
 , but that's essentially
the procedure, which is deceptively simple seeming.

What's the point of doing this? Well, inducing currents in a part of the
brain causes that part to become more or less active (depending on
whether you get neuronal depolarisation
  or hyperpolarisation
 ). Inducing
this activity in selected areas gives us a much better understanding of
what these areas do, how certain types of activity influence a person's
behaviour or perception, or any number of things like that.

It's not a perfect tool, of course. The direct stimulation is currently
limited to the more surface-level areas of the brain
 , given the precision
required and limitations of the technique. This still offers ample scope
  for areas of
interest though, and it is still possible to influence deeper areas of
the brain  , albeit
indirectly, via the myriad connections.

Admittedly, when someone manually induces a current in your verbal
processing areas
  or motor cortex
 , it can seem a little unnerving. And it certainly looks
disconcerting  . But all the
evidence suggests that, used appropriately, it is a safe procedure
 .

TMS expert, C

[FairfieldLife] Gay world cup??

[card]

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/eurovision-2013-to-feature-first-lesbian-kiss-in-protest-against-lack-of-gay-marriage-legislation-8621231.html

[FairfieldLife] Saami language

[card]

¨
Saami language is a Uralic language related to Finnish, Estonian and 
Hungarian.

Nowadaze it's spoken (by a couple of thousand human beans)
at least in the northernmost parts of Norway, Finland and
Russia.

For me at least it seems to have the same kind of primitive
power as some saama-vedic stuff.

Two female saamic comedians / radio reporters singing a benevolent parody of 
Mr. Wiskari's Finnish tune Tuntematon potilas (Unknown
patent, an allusion to Väinö Linna's bestseller, Tuntematon
sotilas, Unknown soldier), describing lactose intolerance:

http://areena.yle.fi/tv/1895360

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Soldier_(novel)


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank God, Obama no match for Hitler Germany.

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > Whew, sieg, instead of seig, Oh, and heil instead of hail, same difference. 
> > Profound rebut! GMAB you also are a partisan hackhow sad for you and 
> > this Country.
> 

That's exquisitely funny. If you write 'hail', you're English pronunciation is 
"correct" as to how it's *written* in German
(heil)? But if you pronounce 'hail' *phonetically*, the pronunciation
is the correct one of German 'heil'? 

ROFLOL!


> Side-splittingly funny, BillyG...partisan hack? PCKB!
> http://youtu.be/9f3waZ9GYgM
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Seig Hail Obama Judy! Seig hail! 
> > > 
> > > If you're actually going to write that then at least spell it right. 
> > > Think before you react.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He may have the ministry of propaganda (the liberal state run
> > > > > > press), he may have the IRS, he may have the Justice department,
> > > > > > but he'll never have the approval of the American people.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No president has ever had (or likely ever *will* have)
> > > > > the approval of *all* the American people.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But Obama isn't doing too badly. Gallup, May 8:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "President Obama continues to hold a substantial advantage over 
> > > > > congressional Republicans in public regard. Obama's job approval is 
> > > > > back in positive territory at 51%, after slipping to 47% in March. By 
> > > > > comparison, just 22% approve of the job Republican leaders in 
> > > > > Congress are doing, among the lowest approval rating for 
> > > > > congressional leaders from either party in 20 years.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Furthermore, a record-high 80% say Obama and Republican leaders are 
> > > > > not working together to address important issues facing the country, 
> > > > > and by nearly two-to-one (42%-22%) more blame Republican leaders than 
> > > > > Obama for the gridlock."
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.people-press.org/2013/05/08/obama-maintains-approval-advantage-but-gop-runs-even-on-key-issues/
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ck687ll
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>