--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <richard@...> wrote:
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> 
> 
> > > Nonsense.
> > >
> authfriend:
> > Oh, a well-formulated scientific argument, salyavin. ;-)
> > 
> > My assertion stands, even without the parenthetical. Brains
> > and consciousness are very highly *correlated*, but that
> > doesn't nail causation. Faucets and water are very highly
> > correlated; does that mean faucets *cause* water? See, I
> > can make the water appear and disappear just by turning the
> > faucet handle! That's like bonking you on the head and
> > making your consciousness disappear, right?
> > 
> > Ever read any David Chalmers?
> >
> What we need is an operational definition of 
> consciousness and altered states of consciousness and 
> what, if any, are the neural correlates - that's 
> neuroscience.

If any?

Maybe while they're at it they'll find some correlates
between drinking wine and getting drunk. Or between
head injuries and brain impairement. As bizarre as those
ideas seem to us now....

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