[FairfieldLife] Re: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-17 Thread punditster


Share:
 ...amazing to me that you've been dialoguing for over 10 
 years with Ma and Pa of FFL and have kept your sense of 
 humor about it all. As far as I can go and figure, that's 
 what it's ultimately all about.

What exactly, was Judy's beef with you? I forgot. 

That you're dishonest, a liar, and an idiot? Do 
you see any patterns here? LoL! 


   It's enough if I see how you constantly bug and patronize 
   Share for nothing, and now you want to draw me into this 
   stupid argument you are having with her?
   
 Share Long:
  I think when certain posters don't drink enough water, 
  their pitta gets vitiated and they can't help but argue 
  with lots of people.
 
 It's not complicated - some people just feel better when 
 they have someone to talk to. When you don't have a car 
 and you can't get around, it's only natural to turn to a 
 discussion group to vent their frustrations. 
 
  Kind of ironic.
 
 Yes, I've been dialoging with Judy and Barry for over ten 
 years now and they both seem to just get worse with time. 
 
 At least I've got them to the point that they won't even
 correspond with me anymore. LoL!
 
 I think I got rid of one troll - that guy John Manning - 
 the one that trolled to my place of employ and tried to 
 get me fired from my janitor job at the community college. 
 
 Apparently he only posts to that Mormon religious group 
 anymore. Go figure.
 
 It's been more difficult to get back at that weird Barry 
 character - the guy that tried to publish my real name on 
 the internet a few years ago over on Usenet. 
 
 What's ironic is that Barry won't even admit he's guilty 
 and Judy, who makes claims of being so ethical, never
 even spoke up about any of these incidents. Ironic.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gate of Grief (was: This is what the sky looked like in Morocco in 1960)

2013-09-17 Thread Jason

Thanks Bob, I did watch that show on BBC. I also watched
Spencer Welles, Journey of man on National Geographic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJDGzzrMyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJDGzzrMyQ

A huge eruption of a super volcano in indonesia clouded out
the sun and caused a drop in temperatures by about 10
degrees. It caused a massive drought in Africa and pushed
surviving humans to coastlines in search of fish.

Human population plunged down to a few hundred.  We were on
the brink of extinction.  It was then the 'great coastal
migration' began. At that time From the tip of south africa
to india to australia was one unbroken coastline.

The entire human population today decended from that
population bottleneck.

  We were hunter-gatherers.  This required foraging vast
  areas for food.  That kind of foraging requires
  long-distance running.  That kind of running heats up the
  body.  To cool the body, we developed sweating.  To sweat,
  our skins became softer and we lost a lot of hair.



---  bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote:

 Jason,

 This whole series (The Incredible Human Journey) is
 worth the time, but at around 38:00 min of this episode
 Dr. Roberts specifically discusses what you stated below.
 One of the things that struck me in my travels in this
 area was the number of dry riverbeds (there's an Arab myth
 that Bahrain was once the Garden of Eden, and we know from
 geology that much of the Arabian Gulf was fertile plain at
 one time; in a later episode she discusses when we first
 switched from hunting and gathering to cultivation in
 Mesopotamia---it was a woman's idea); I think I mentioned
 in another post to Emily that I was intrigued to learn in
 this series that when our likely ancestors made it out of
 Africa 70 thousand years ago (by way of The Gate of
 Grief)---with the help from the climate change you pointed
 out---the coast of The Yemen and Oman extended another
 50km into the Arabian Sea and the area had the abundant
 fresh water they needed for their journey---possibly on
 their way to India.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwa6o-s1Yvs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwa6o-s1Yvs



--- In  fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  I wonder in what state of affairs Casablanca is now.
 
  Most of the Jewish community might have migrated to
  greener pastures??
 
  At present, we are in a dry period, but it is expected
  that the Sahara will become green again in 15000 years.
  This is due to a 41,000 year cycle in which the tilt of
  the earth changes between 22° and 24.5°.
 
  Sahara alternates between phases of rainforests and
  desert in cycles.
 
 
--- turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
   Very cool - don't see a lot of stars here due to all the urban
light, but

   have seen that carpet before. Must've been pretty damned amazing
   to stand in the middle of the desert, with that above you.
 
That's why I posted the photo. Most people these days have no
idea.
   
This photo is the closest I have found to conveying what it
was
like to stand in the middle of the Sahara on a moonless night.
In
that era, in which global pollution had not become an issue,
and
in which light pollution (I lived 60 miles from the nearest
light-
emitting city, Marrakech) had not even been imagined.
   
Your term carpet is apt. I remember once taking a blanket
with
me out into the desert behind my house, away even from the
lights of the Air Force base, and lying on it there just
staring up.
I tried to figure out how big the biggest black spot in the
sky
was, meaning the biggest area that did not contain any visible
stars. All that it took to cover that black spot was to hold
my arm
out at full length, and use the fingernail of my little
finger.
   
I have since gazed at the nighttime sky from the tops of the
Rockies, or from on top of Haleakala, in Maui. And from
deserts
and remote areas in the US, Canada, and Europe. In the last
twenty years, I have never seen even a third as many stars.
That's
why it's heartening to see this photo from South Australia.
Even
if the photographer had to use a long exposure to capture
this,
this many visible stars were there to be captured.
   
   
 --- fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Obviously, it still does in Lake Eyre, in remote South
Australia.
 The bright spot above the subject's hand is Venus.



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[FairfieldLife] HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Jason

Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than two days
to appear on the forum.

My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept 17.

Grr.. that was an important post.

Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo?  I am still
struck with the classic format.  I hate delayed posts, it
disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the
conversations.



[FairfieldLife] Come Back Raja Luis!

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson
Just a glance at the BBC Latin America page and we see two
huge storms battering Mexico, six people killed in Colombia bar stampede, Chile
police have arrested hundreds in clashes between police and people
demonstrating in the streets, police using tear gas and water cannons on
teachers in Mexico City – what's happening? Did Raja Luis fly all the yogic
flyers out of the country on vacation?

Re: [FairfieldLife] HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson
Everyone is having problems with Yahoo - its just an unreliable thing to use.





 From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:35 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...
 


  

Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than two days 
to appear on the forum.

My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept 17.

Grr.. that was an important post.

Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo?  I am still 
struck with the classic format.  I hate delayed posts, it 
disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the 
conversations.

 

[FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread j_alexander_stanley













[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
John, according to the article he's a project manager for his brother's 
construction company. And two of the wives work outside the home.





 From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV
 


  
One wonders what the guy does to afford such a large family.  And, how can he 
avoid prosecution now that everyone knows where he lives?

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.html


http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.htmlhttp://

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:

 Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than two days
 to appear on the forum.
 
 My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept 17.
 
 Grr.. that was an important post.
 
 Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo?  I am still
 struck with the classic format.  I hate delayed posts, it
 disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the
 conversations.

Lighten up. 

1. There is nothing Rick or Alex can do to solve 
Yahoo's problems.

2. Yahoo is acting as a surrogate for the Laws Of
Nature, and teaching you that time is not the linear
concept you believed it was. Posts arrive when it is
their time to arrive, not when you want them to arrive.

3. There is *no such thing* as an important post. 
This is FFL. 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Buckifying Scripture

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson
Where hundreds are gathered together in the Golden Domes, half of them asleep 
and the other half thinking horny thoughts, they have the exact same effect as 
hundreds gathered together engaged in effective mediation. 

Signed, 

The Unified Field





 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Buckifying Scripture
 


  
The
Unified Field
Its
name yields the sweetest perfume,
And sweeter than music Its
voice;
Its presence disperses my gloom,
And makes all within me
rejoice,
And makes all within me rejoice.


“Where two or three are
gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field
will be found multiplied in effect”  -Matthew 18:20  
Yours
in the Unified Field,
 


-Buck 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Notice that Jesus said: For where two or three are gathered together in my 
name, there am I in the midst of them. Two or three! When you get 3,000 people 
- as in the Dome - Jesus is a very long way away because then the mob mentality 
takes over.

(Matthew 18:20) King James Version 


--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


Buck wrote: 

“Where two or three are gathered in effective
transcending meditation there the Unified Field will be found
multiplied in effect”  -Not Matthew 18:20  


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread Jason

Listen carefully John, just as Yoga is about balance, Nature
is also about balance.

The balance between 'individual and collective', the 'public
space and private space' is necessary for a proper society.
Maintain that distinction.

That is that guy's private space.  Nobody has the right to
prosecute him.  In a balanced society, there is a set of
norms in private places and a set of norms in public places.

Any place that has commercial activity, and pays commercial
taxes to the govt should be, by definition public space or
semi-public space.  You can even ban tobacco there.

However, if you try to poke your nose into his private
residence, you become a police state.  No country in the
world has the resources to become a police state. Even pot
should not be banned, if it's grown in a private residence
and as long as it's not brought outside.


--- jr_esq jr_esq@.. wrote:

 One wonders what the guy does to afford such a large
 family.  And, how can he avoid prosecution now that
 everyone knows where he lives?

 http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-0
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.ht\
ml
 51209496.html
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.ht\
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 http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-0
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.ht\
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 51209496.html
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.ht\
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 --- turquoiseb turquoiseb@.. wrote:
 
  This critique might hold more weight if it came from
  someone who had managed to get laid sometime within the
  last few decades.
  As it stands, it sounds to me a lot like envy. Just
  sayin'...  :-)
 




RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to meditate

2013-09-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5













Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread wleed3
NICE, going Buck am with U in all



In a message dated 09/17/13 09:21:22 Eastern Daylight Time, 
dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes:



In National unity of empathy and with great concern for the dead
and their communities of families and friends, 
by the best of science
I should like to see a National Day of meditation called
for by the White House as a National coming together
in a Unified Field.
-Buck


For,


“Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the 
Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect” -Matthew 18:20 


 


From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to meditate

From The Mail: The gunman who shot dead 12 people at the Navy Yard in 
Washington DC today, Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old civilian contractor from Fort 
Worth, had been in the Navy in 2007 but was kicked out in 2011 following a gun 
arrest.  However friends said today that Alexis 'didn't seem aggressive' and 
was a fan of meditation and Buddhism.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re Had he been a Muslim extremist, he might have been yelling Allahu Akbar . . 
. hands shaking and missing his targets.: Thirteen confirmed deaths so far 
today. The toll needs to rise if he's to better Nidal Hasan, the self-professed 
Soldier of Allah, who killed 13.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Well, we all know that meditation makes us better at whatever we do. Had he 
been a Muslim extremist, he might have been yelling Allahu Akbar with veins 
popping out all over his face, hands shaking and missing his targets.


From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to meditate

  
From The Mail: The gunman who shot dead 12 people at the Navy Yard in 
Washington DC today, Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old civilian contractor from Fort 
Worth, had been in the Navy in 2007 but was kicked out in 2011 following a gun 
arrest.  However friends said today that Alexis 'didn't seem aggressive' and 
was a fan of meditation and Buddhism.  





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Buckifying Scripture

2013-09-17 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Share, I think you should eschew the senior variety (sounds like dog food) 
and stick with the regular version. For one, thinking of yourself as senior 
is not the way to go. And secondly, guts are guts and they all require 
probiotics. I seriously doubt the senior version is much different, when it 
comes to hundreds of millions of good bacteria available in one capsule, and 
you are just buying into America's penchant for obsessing on the aging 
population. Viva la revolution!

[FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Jason

I don't understand this authbabe.

Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to
do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.


--- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote:

 You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field
 and pretended it came from the Bible?

 Such integrity.


 --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote:
 
  NICE, going Buck am with U in all
 
 
   dhamiltony2k5@... writes:
  
   In National unity of empathy and with great concern
   for the dead
  
   and their communities of families and friends,
  
   by the best of science
  
   I should like to see a National Day of meditation
   called
  
   for by the White House as a National coming together
  
   in a Unified Field.
  
   -Buck
  
  
   For,
  
   Where two or three are gathered in effective
   transcending meditation there the Unified Field will
   be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20
  




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't lying 
because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming as Xeno 
suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't even being a 
bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss ninny, that anybody 
really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss ninny is like! I stand 
with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share





 From: Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  

I don't understand this authbabe.

Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.


--- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote:
 
 You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
 and pretended it came from the Bible?
 
 Such integrity. 


 --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote:
  
  NICE, going Buck am with U in all
  
  
   dhamiltony2k5@... writes:
   
   In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
   for the dead
   
   and their communities of families and friends,
   
   by the best of science
   
   I should like to see a National Day of meditation  
   called
   
   for by the White House as a National coming together
   
   in a Unified Field.
   
   -Buck
   
   
   For,
   
   Where two or three are gathered in effective  
   transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
   be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Buckifying Scripture

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Ann, Grey Panthers unite! OTOH, I'm happy with my senior status. I get to pay 
lower prices at movies. I get Medicare. I get to be in AARP. I get to see 
people stunned when I tell them my age. And guess what? There was another in 
that brand line that featured even more than 30 billion!





 From: Ann Woelfle Bater awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Buckifying Scripture
 


  
Share, I think you should eschew the senior variety (sounds like dog food) 
and stick with the regular version. For one, thinking of yourself as senior 
is not the way to go. And secondly, guts are guts and they all require 
probiotics. I seriously doubt the senior version is much different, when it 
comes to hundreds of millions of good bacteria available in one capsule, and 
you are just buying into America's penchant for obsessing on the aging 
population. Viva la revolution!









 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread punditster


Maybe it's just another case of the classroom bully.

Share Long:
 Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't 
 lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming as 
 Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't even 
 being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss ninny, that 
 anybody really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss ninny is like! I 
 stand with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Jason jedi_spock@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
  
 
 
   
 
 I don't understand this authbabe.
 
 Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
 do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.
 
 
 --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
  You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
  and pretended it came from the Bible?
  
  Such integrity. 
 
 
  --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@ wrote:
   
   NICE, going Buck am with U in all
   
   
dhamiltony2k5@ writes:

In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
for the dead

and their communities of families and friends,

by the best of science

I should like to see a National Day of meditation  
called

for by the White House as a National coming together

in a Unified Field.

-Buck


For,

Where two or three are gathered in effective  
transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   





Re: [FairfieldLife] I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Richard J. Williams

Or, you writing that Buck is a liar and pretending it came from the Bible?

On 9/17/2013 8:42 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field and pretended 
it came from the Bible?



Such integrity.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


NICE, going Buck am with U in all
In a message dated 09/17/13 09:21:22 Eastern Daylight Time, 
dhamiltony2k5@... writes:


*In National unity of empathy and with great concern for the dead*

*and their communities of families and friends, *

*by the best of science*

*I should like to see a National Day of meditation called*

*for by the White House as a National coming together*

*in a Unified Field.*

*-Buck*


*For,*


“*Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending
meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in
effect” -Matthew 18:20 *



*From:* s3raphita@... s3raphita@...
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 2:17 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to meditate
From The Mail: The gunman who shot dead 12 people at the Navy
Yard in Washington DC today, Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old
civilian contractor from Fort Worth, had been in the Navy in
2007 but was kicked out in 2011 following a gun arrest.
 However friends said today that Alexis 'didn't seem
aggressive' and was a fan of meditation and Buddhism.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Re Had he been a Muslim extremist, he might have been yelling
Allahu Akbar . . . hands shaking and missing his targets.:
Thirteen confirmed deaths so far today. The toll needs to rise
if he's to better Nidal Hasan, the self-professed Soldier of
Allah, who killed 13.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Well, we all know that meditation makes us better at
whatever we do. Had he been a Muslim extremist, he might
have been yelling Allahu Akbar with veins popping out all
over his face, hands shaking and missing his targets.

*From:* s3raphita@... s3raphita@...
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 2:17 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to
meditate
From The Mail: The gunman who shot dead 12 people at the
Navy Yard in Washington DC today, Aaron Alexis, a
34-year-old civilian contractor from Fort Worth, had been
in the Navy in 2007 but was kicked out in 2011 following a
gun arrest.  However friends said today that Alexis
'didn't seem aggressive' and was a fan of meditation and
Buddhism.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Come Back Raja Luis!

2013-09-17 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Well, maybe people have to actually be flying and yogic before there is any 
effect. We have all yet to see this.

[FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
YES! I wrote about this yesterday. This lag time issue really takes the punch 
out of conversing here. It is like shouting into the mountains and waiting a 
long time to get an echo. It takes the immediacy and the effectiveness of 
dialogue away. FFL functioning like this is not nearly as dynamic. I hope it 
sorts itself out in the next little while because this scrambled, badly-timed, 
messages-gone-missing business is absurd.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread sharelong60













Re: Yes! I believe Re: [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to meditate, Col leed UAS Ret.

2013-09-17 Thread wleed3
Keep up the great works 4 us al in the sentient Universe. No belief 4 it to be 
effectual it just is! MY Thanks  that of a non war like host  ( meaning 
Army) of others as well



In a message dated 09/17/13 09:32:05 Eastern Daylight Time, 
dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes:



 A National Day. Yes, gathered in an effective and secular transcending 
meditation there the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


In National unity of empathy and with great concern for the dead
and their communities of families and friends, 
by the best of science
I should like to see a National Day of meditation called
for by the White House as a National coming together
in a Unified Field.
-Buck


For,


“Where two or three are gathered in effective transcending meditation there the 
Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect” -Matthew 18:20 


 


From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to meditate

From The Mail: The gunman who shot dead 12 people at the Navy Yard in 
Washington DC today, Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old civilian contractor from Fort 
Worth, had been in the Navy in 2007 but was kicked out in 2011 following a gun 
arrest.  However friends said today that Alexis 'didn't seem aggressive' and 
was a fan of meditation and Buddhism.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re Had he been a Muslim extremist, he might have been yelling Allahu Akbar . . 
. hands shaking and missing his targets.: Thirteen confirmed deaths so far 
today. The toll needs to rise if he's to better Nidal Hasan, the self-professed 
Soldier of Allah, who killed 13.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Well, we all know that meditation makes us better at whatever we do. Had he 
been a Muslim extremist, he might have been yelling Allahu Akbar with veins 
popping out all over his face, hands shaking and missing his targets.


From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The latest shooter liked to meditate

  
From The Mail: The gunman who shot dead 12 people at the Navy Yard in 
Washington DC today, Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old civilian contractor from Fort 
Worth, had been in the Navy in 2007 but was kicked out in 2011 following a gun 
arrest.  However friends said today that Alexis 'didn't seem aggressive' and 
was a fan of meditation and Buddhism.  





RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread sharelong60













RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













Re: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
IMO, for something to be a lie, the poster has to have the intention to 
deceive. I think Buck was being playful and knows his audience well enough to 
know that they will get his playfulness.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
Sure you are, as well as pandering to Buck and Jason and Leed. There's no 
question that Buck was lying.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, I'm not standing against you. I'm standing against your calling Buck a 
liar, saying he lied, etc. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Translation: I stand against Judy, of course. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't 
lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming as 
Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't even 
being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss ninny, that 
anybody really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss ninny is like! I 
stand with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share







 From: Jason jedi_spock@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  

I don't understand this authbabe.

Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.


--- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote:
 
 You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
 and pretended it came from the Bible?
 
 Such integrity. 


 --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote:
  
  NICE, going Buck am with U in all
  
  
   dhamiltony2k5@... writes:
   
   In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
   for the dead
   
   and their communities of families and friends,
   
   by the best of science
   
   I should like to
 see a National Day of meditation  
   called
   
   for by the White House as a National coming together
   
   in a Unified Field.
   
   -Buck
   
   
   For,
   
   Where two or three are gathered in effective  
   transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
   be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   




 

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, your repeating such things about me or anyone else for that matter, does 
NOT make it true. These are your opinions and your lack of integrity IMO, lies 
in how you assert them as objective reality.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
No, of course you wouldn't. You wouldn't recognize straightforwardness if it 
bit you in the butt. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, I wouldn't call what you do straight forward at all. 





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You shouldn't talk, lady. At least whatever it is I do is straightforward.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Maybe it's just another case of the classroom bully.

Share Long:

 Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't 
 lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming as 
 Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't even 
 being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss ninny, 
 that anybody really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss ninny is 
 like! I stand with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Jason jedi_spock@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 
 
 
   
 
 I don't understand this authbabe.
 
 Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
 do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.
 
 
 --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
  You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
  and pretended it came from the Bible?
  
  Such integrity. 
 
 
  --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@ wrote:
   
   NICE, going Buck am with U in all
   
   
dhamiltony2k5@ writes:

In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
for the dead

and their communities of families and friends,

by the best of science

I should like to see a National Day of meditation  
called

for by the White House as a National coming together

in a Unified Field.

-Buck


For,

Where two or three are gathered in effective  
transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   
 


 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread jr_esq













RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Bhairitu
This is what you get when you give a bunch of fresh out of college kids 
the run of the house.  They write half ass code often with little or no 
error checking.  They believe themselves to be God's gift to 
technology.  Back when I was managing development they would only get an 
entry level job and a year to get their feet wet.


I was also very particular about hiring grads.  They really had to show 
that they could code and just didn't have some piece of paper.  Given a 
chance to work in a professional environment they developed necessary 
skills that can't be taught in college. Eventually one of the project 
leads would ask if they could have them for their group and that was 
their step up.


In one case one my junior programmers decided she didn't like 
programming and was interested in becoming a producer.  She thought I 
would explode when she told her that but I encouraged her to do what she 
felt was best.  Actually the producers of our products had little 
technical background so to have one that  did was going to be a real plus.


The vulture capitalists of Silicon Valley like their startups run by 
kids because they think they bring more the to table than us old farts. 
This is why you see a lot of fumbles in the industry.


On 09/17/2013 04:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:

 Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than two days
 to appear on the forum.

 My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept 17.

 Grr.. that was an important post.

 Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo? I am still
 struck with the classic format. I hate delayed posts, it
 disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the
 conversations.

Lighten up.

1. There is nothing Rick or Alex can do to solve
Yahoo's problems.

2. Yahoo is acting as a surrogate for the Laws Of
Nature, and teaching you that time is not the linear
concept you believed it was. Posts arrive when it is
their time to arrive, not when you want them to arrive.

3. There is *no such thing* as an important post.
This is FFL.






RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread sharelong60













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Bhairitu
Seraphita wrote one yesterday on the Forbes report of the richest 
Americans.  I spotted it on the web site but it has never arrived here 
and I even checked the Yahoo Email site.  You know me, I'll discuss the 
topic of the excessively rich at the drop of a hat.  I was even going to 
comment on a similar article on CNET but didn't have time.  Over their 
you get a bunch of Sillyconned Valley geeks who worship the wealthy 
tech gods and it is fun to fling some mud at them.  I just love to 
hear them say that someone like Bill Gates worked hard for his money 
when his wealth like Zuckerberg's was accidental. In fact they really 
hate to hear that Gate's father supported an initiative in Washington 
state to tax the rich more. And Gates and Buffet are supporting a 
federal bill to tax stock trades and Wall Street is whining. It's a tiny 
tax at that.


Yahoo Groups I would suspect does not generate a lot of revenue for 
Yahoo so it is more an orphan child.  They can't dump it because there 
are too many users of it and it would cause a real uproar.  I wouldn't 
put them above implementing a strategy to drive users away.


On 09/17/2013 04:54 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote:


Delayed posts seem to have become a permanent feature, and seeing as 
how that's purely a Yahoo issue, there's nothing Rick or I can do 
about it. From what I've observed, posts arrive on the website much 
more quickly than they do in my email feed. YMMV.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:



Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than two days
to appear on the forum.

My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept 17.

Grr.. that was an important post.

Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo?  I am still
struck with the classic format.  I hate delayed posts, it
disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the
conversations.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
noozguru, quite a while ago I read an interview with Jeff Bezos in which he 
said he had no idea where all the money was coming from! 




 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck 
pit...
 


  
Seraphita wrote one yesterday on the Forbes report of the richest Americans.  I 
spotted it on the web site but it has never arrived here and I even checked the 
Yahoo Email site.  You know me, I'll discuss the topic of the excessively rich 
at the drop of a hat.  I was even going to comment on a similar article on CNET 
but didn't have time.  Over their you get a bunch of Sillyconned Valley geeks 
who worship the wealthy tech gods and it is fun to fling some mud at them.  I 
just love to hear them say that someone like Bill Gates worked hard for his 
money when his wealth like Zuckerberg's was accidental. In fact they really 
hate to hear that Gate's father supported an initiative in Washington state to 
tax the rich more.  And Gates and Buffet are supporting a federal bill to tax 
stock trades and Wall Street is whining. It's a tiny tax at that.

Yahoo Groups I would suspect does not generate a lot of revenue
  for Yahoo so it is more an orphan child.  They can't dump it
  because there are too many users of it and it would cause a real
  uproar.  I wouldn't put them above implementing a strategy to
  drive users away.

On 09/17/2013 04:54 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
Delayed posts seem to have become a permanent feature, and seeing as how 
that's purely a Yahoo issue, there's nothing Rick or I can do about it. From 
what I've observed, posts arrive on the website much more quickly than they do 
in my email feed. YMMV.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



Hey Alex, Rick, my reply to Bob Price took more than
  two days 
to appear on the forum.

My post on sept 15 is now finally appearing on sept
  17.

Grr.. that was an important post.

Is anybody else having problems with Yahoo?  I am still 
struck with the classic format.  I hate delayed posts,
  it 
disrupts the rhythm, frequency and harmony of the 
conversations.


 

Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Emily Reyn
Share, what I love about you is that everything you post is evidence of what 
you are negating outwardly at the time.  Here, turn your sidestepping into a 
positive and learn this hip hop dance step.  Smile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qMj9NHsBVo




 From: sharelon...@yahoo.com sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:58 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
Judy, my guess is a guess and I'm not equating that to objective reality. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


And you figure your guess is objective reality? 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


My guess is that just about all FFL posters realized that Buck was playing as 
he does sometimes, being outrageous in a preacherly way.





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
For Buck to falsely claim what he wrote came from the Bible is not what I'd 
call integrity, nor is admiring what he did.


Not a thing wrong with what Buck wrote on its own terms, as far as I'm 
concerned. Citing it as biblical, however, is very wrong.


YMMV.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



I don't understand this authbabe.

Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.


--- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote:
 
 You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
 and pretended it came from the Bible?
 
 Such integrity. 


 --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote:
  
  NICE, going Buck am with U in all
  
  
   dhamiltony2k5@... writes:
   
   In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
   for the dead
   
   and their communities of families and friends,
   
   by the best of science
   
   I should like to see a National Day of meditation  
   called
   
   for by the White House as a National coming together
   
   in a Unified Field.
   
   -Buck
   
   
   For,
   
   Where two or three are gathered in effective  
   transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
   be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   




 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Re: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread jr_esq













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE:NOT Suciety but each state: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread wleed3
However Utah as an act of admission to state hood May NOT legally by their 
accession act so do. that is legalize  
polygamy! All other state may do so!
 Thus by their accession to the Union the do NOT along with Oklahoma, ( may NOT 
change the cite of its state capitol), have the full powers of the other 48 
states 



In a message dated 09/17/13 12:38:36 Eastern Daylight Time, jr_...@yahoo.com 
writes:



 Judy,


The guy is actually opening many questions for society to answer.  If the guy 
dies, who is entitled to his property?  Who is entitled to his pension?  Are 
all of his children entitled to inheritance of his property?


I was reading an article somewhere.  It might have been submitted by one of the 
members here.  But a judge said that the success of the gay marriage movement 
may have paved the way to legalizing polygamy as well for the entire USA.   
However, I haven't seen too many polygamists shouting for their rights to be 
heard. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


According to that article, the law against polygamy is not being enforced 
unless another crime is involved, such as child abuse. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Jason,


For your information, polygamy is illegal in Utah and the rest of the USA.  You 
can argue against the law until the cows come home.  But the law stands until 
the people change it.  As of now, that guy is breaking the law.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



Listen carefully John, just as Yoga is about balance, Nature 
is also about balance.

The balance between 'individual and collective', the 'public 
space and private space' is necessary for a proper society. 
Maintain that distinction.

That is that guy's private space.  Nobody has the right to 
prosecute him.  In a balanced society, there is a set of 
norms in private places and a set of norms in public places.

Any place that has commercial activity, and pays commercial
taxes to the govt should be, by definition public space or 
semi-public space.  You can even ban tobacco there.

However, if you try to poke your nose i nto his private 
residence, you become a police state.  No country in the 
world has the resources to become a police state. Even pot 
should not be banned, if it's grown in a private residence 
and as long as it's not brought outside.


--- jr_esq jr_esq@.. wrote:

 One wonders what the guy does to afford such a large  
 family.  And, how can he avoid prosecution now that  
 everyone knows where he lives?
 
 http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-0 
 51209496.html 
 
 http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-0 
 51209496.html 
 
 
 --- turquoiseb turquoiseb@.. wrote:
  
  This critique might hold more weight if it came from 
  someone who had managed to get laid sometime within the 
  last few decades.
  As it stands, it sounds to me a lot like envy. Just 
  sayin'...  :-)
  







[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread emilymae.reyn













Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, not surprisingly, you and I have different definitions of straight 
forward, objectivity and reality. But are you still saying that Buck actually 
lied?!





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You forget all the evidence of your inability to be straightforward that's in 
the archives, Share. That's objective reality. I know you don't care for 
reality, but that's just too darned bad.

I don't accuse anyone of lying unless they actually lie, you see. It's not just 
my opinion. Most on FFL do not lie, so those that do stand out. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, your repeating such things about me or anyone else for that matter, does 
NOT make it true. These are your opinions and your lack of integrity IMO, lies 
in how you assert them as objective reality.





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
No, of course you wouldn't. You wouldn't recognize straightforwardness if it 
bit you in the butt. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, I wouldn't call what you do straight forward at all. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You shouldn't talk, lady. At least whatever it is I do is straightforward.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Maybe it's just another case of the classroom bully.

Share Long:

 Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't 
 lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming 
 as Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't 
 even being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss 
 ninny, that anybody really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss 
 ninny is like! I stand with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Jason jedi_spock@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 
 
 
   
 
 I don't understand this authbabe.
 
 Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
 do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.
 
 
 --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
  You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
  and pretended it came from the Bible?
  
  Such integrity. 
 
 
  --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@ wrote:
   
   NICE, going Buck am with U in all
   
   
dhamiltony2k5@ writes:

In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
for the dead

and their communities of families and friends,

by the best of science

I should like to see a National Day of meditation  
called

for by the White House as a National coming together

in a Unified Field.

-Buck


For,

Where two or three are gathered in effective  
transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   
 




 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times?

2013-09-17 Thread s3raphita













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
My guess is that just about all FFL posters realized that Buck was playing as 
he does sometimes, being outrageous in a preacherly way.




 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
For Buck to falsely claim what he wrote came from the Bible is not what I'd 
call integrity, nor is admiring what he did.

Not a thing wrong with what Buck wrote on its own terms, as far as I'm 
concerned. Citing it as biblical, however, is very wrong.

YMMV.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



I don't understand this authbabe.

Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.


--- authfriend authfriend@.. wrote:
 
 You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
 and pretended it came from the Bible?
 
 Such integrity. 


 --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@.. wrote:
  
  NICE, going Buck am with U in all
  
  
   dhamiltony2k5@... writes:
   
   In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
   for the dead
   
   and their communities of families and friends,
   
   by the best of science
   
   I should like to see a National Day of meditation  
   called
   
   for by the White House as a National coming together
   
   in a Unified Field.
   
   -Buck
   
   
   For,
   
   Where two or three are gathered in effective  
   transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
   be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   


 

[FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread s3raphita













[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Are we living in the end times?

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread jr_esq













[FairfieldLife] MUM Weds Evening Lecture

2013-09-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread Emily Reyn
Well, my 'guess' is they don't want to inbreed *too* much.  



 From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV
 


  
 Emily,

It's interesting that you selected this tribe for discussion.  We studied this 
tribe when I was in college many years ago.  Aside from polygamy, they also 
practiced warfare to steal wives from the other tribes.

It appears that the Brazilian government probably has more contact with them by 
now.  And, their way of living may be changing to adopt the western world 
culture.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 The Yanomami Indians in the Amazon in Brazil also practice polygamy.  Test.  I 
am inserting this link in Chrome using the link icon.   

http://www.crystalinks.com/yanomami.html



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 Share,

I'm sure it cost a lot of money to feed a big family like that.  It's very 
likely that he can't afford to run his household by himself.  It's good that he 
has two other wives to help pay for the bills.

Come to think of it.  The wives who remain at home are probably the ones who 
share the work of baby sitting the kids, cooking and maintaining the house.  
It's short the guy in charge of the house has a lot of responsibility--in 
addition to satisfying the personal needs of his wives.  Does he have freedom?



--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


John, I would love to know what they spend on groceries in an average week!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/where-americans-rich-poor-spent-193609849.html





From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV




One wonders what the guy does to afford such a large family.  And, how can he 
avoid prosecution now that everyone knows where he lives?

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.html


http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.htmlhttp://

 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
John, I would love to know what they spend on groceries in an average week!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/where-americans-rich-poor-spent-193609849.html





From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV




One wonders what the guy does to afford such a large family.  And, how can he 
avoid prosecution now that everyone knows where he lives?

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.html


http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.htmlhttp://

   


Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, I don't think your definitions are always the normal ones nor the ones 
expressive of integrity. I asked because I noticed you backpedaled, going from 
calling Buck a liar to a bliss ninny. 




 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
Share wrote: 


Judy, not surprisingly, you and I have different definitions of straight 
forward, objectivity and reality.

Right, that doesn't surprise me at all. You have your own personal subjective 
definitions that allow you to misrepresent and mislead and obfuscate and 
quibble and confuse and be disingenuous without even the slightest twinge of 
conscience. My definitions are, you know, the normal definitions that most 
people use, especially people with integrity.

But are you still saying that Buck actually lied?!

That's a disingenuous question. Let's see if you can rephrase it so it's 
straightforward. I'm betting not.





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You forget all the evidence of your inability to be straightforward that's in 
the archives, Share. That's objective reality. I know you don't care for 
reality, but that's just too darned bad.

I don't accuse anyone of lying unless they actually lie, you see. It's not just 
my opinion. Most on FFL do not lie, so those that do stand out. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, your repeating such things about me or anyone else for that matter, does 
NOT make it true. These are your opinions and your lack of integrity IMO, lies 
in how you assert them as objective reality.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
No, of course you wouldn't. You wouldn't recognize straightforwardness if it 
bit you in the butt. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, I wouldn't call what you do straight forward at all. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You shouldn't talk, lady. At least whatever it is I do is straightforward.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Maybe it's just another case of the classroom bully.

Share Long:

 Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't 
 lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming 
 as Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't 
 even being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss 
 ninny, that anybody really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss 
 ninny is like! I stand with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Jason jedi_spock@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 
 
 
   
 
 I don't understand this authbabe.
 
 Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
 do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.
 
 
 --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
  You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
  and pretended it came from the Bible?
  
  Such integrity. 
 
 
  --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@ wrote:
   
   NICE, going Buck am with U in all
   
   
dhamiltony2k5@ writes:

In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
for the dead

and their communities of families and friends,

by the best of science

I should like to see a National Day of meditation  
called

for by the White House as a National coming together

in a Unified Field.

-Buck


For,

Where two or three are gathered in effective  
transcending meditation there the Unified Field will  
be found multiplied in effect -Matthew 18:20 
   
 






 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Bhairitu
The United Selfish of America is what we call it.  There are dummies 
here who think they're going to win the lottery any day now and don't 
want to pay high taxes on that money.  Those idiots make it difficult to 
tax the rich.  I want to see the progressive taxes like we had during 
the Eisenhower era. We didn't have billionaires back then.  And that tax 
was not meant to be a gold mine for the government. It was meant to 
discourage people accumulating more wealth than they need.


Harvard did a study a number of years ago which was reported on 60 
Minutes.  They concluded there was no formula for getting wealth. It 
was just luck.  We might call that karma.



On 09/17/2013 10:13 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Re Bhairitu: I just love to hear them say that someone like Bill Gates 
worked hard for his money :


That's my pet peeve. Yes, Gates was at the right place at the right 
time, and he put in some effort and had some original ideas so he 
deserves success and a comfortable life, but $72 billion? Do me a favour.


It is not just that you have to wonder quite how many yachts a rich 
man could buy before getting bored; it's more that $72 billion can buy 
a lot of influence - and I mean a lot. Such huge disparities of wealth 
are essentially undemocratic.




--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

Seraphita wrote one yesterday on the Forbes report of the richest 
Americans.  I spotted it on the web site but it has never arrived here 
and I even checked the Yahoo Email site.  You know me, I'll discuss 
the topic of the excessively rich at the drop of a hat.  I was even 
going to comment on a similar article on CNET but didn't have time.  
Over their you get a bunch of Sillyconned Valley geeks who worship the 
wealthy tech gods and it is fun to fling some mud at them.  I just 
love to hear them say that someone like Bill Gates worked hard for 
his money when his wealth like Zuckerberg's was accidental.






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Well John, I thought he looked happy in the photo. To m he looked neither 
burdened nor exhausted. So, it seems to be working for him and his whole 
family. PS I'd also LOVE to see his chart!





 From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV
 


  
 Share,

I'm sure it cost a lot of money to feed a big family like that.  It's very 
likely that he can't afford to run his household by himself.  It's good that he 
has two other wives to help pay for the bills.

Come to think of it.  The wives who remain at home are probably the ones who 
share the work of baby sitting the kids, cooking and maintaining the house.  
It's short the guy in charge of the house has a lot of responsibility--in 
addition to satisfying the personal needs of his wives.  Does he have freedom?


--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


John, I would love to know what they spend on groceries in an average week!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/where-americans-rich-poor-spent-193609849.html





From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Utah Polygamous Family on Reality TV




One wonders what the guy does to afford such a large family.  And, how can he 
avoid prosecution now that everyone knows where he lives?

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.html


http://tv.yahoo.com/news/utah-polygamous-family-reality-tv-051209496.htmlhttp://

 
 

RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
IMHO, Doc, a few of those good guy vampires in the Twilight series were not 
creepy at all!





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Once you are dead enough, to all your false identities, you can do almost 
anything you want, remaining quite healthy. A deathless existence, only without 
the creepy vampire vibe. :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re A program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction can not only 
reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the ageing process: tell us 
something we don't know. I want to hear that smoking 40 a day and downing 
Scotch is beneficial.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


http://www.today.com/health/healthy-diet-may-reverse-aging-study-finds-4B11175619

TODAYHealth
Aging
Healthy diet may reverse aging, study finds
Maggie FoxNBC NewsA program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
can not only reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the aging 
process at the genetic level, researchers reported Monday.

The lifestyle changes affected the telomeres -- little caps on the end of the 
chromosomes that carry the DNA, the team at the University of California, San 
Francisco report.
The report, published in Lancet Oncology, is based on just a few men, and 
prostate cancer patients at that. But it shows surprising results: Men who 
switched to a vegan diet, added exercise and stress reduction had longer 
telomeres.
The men followed a program advocated by Dr. Dean Ornish, who has long 
researched the role of a very low-fat, vegetarian diet in improving health. 
Ornish, a professor of medicine at UCSF, worked with telomere expert Dr. 
Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine for her 
discoveries.
“Taken as a whole, this is really the first study showing that any 
intervention may reduce cellular aging,” Ornish told NBC News. “I think these 
findings are almost certainly not restricted to men with prostate cancer.” 
Ornish and Blackburn’s team examined 10 prostate cancer patients who had 
chosen to try Ornish’s program, and compared them to 25 patients who had not. 
They all had early stage prostate cancer that wasn’t considered dangerous.
The program includes eating a diet high in whole foods, fruits, vegetables, 
unrefined grains and keeping fat to 10 percent of calories. The average 
American gets more than a third of calories from fat. For the first three 
months, volunteers got take-home meals.
They also exercised, walking at least 30 minutes a day, six days a week, did 
yoga-based stretching and breathing exercises, practiced relaxation techniques 
and went to weekly one-hour stress-reduction group sessions. And they gave 
blood samples.
“We found that telomerase increased by 30 percent in just three months,” 
Ornish said. Telomerase is an enzyme that affects telomeres. They also looked 
at gene activity. “Gene expression on 500 genes changed, in every case in a 
beneficial way,” Ornish told NBC News.
Five years later, the team took blood samples again. The 10 men who followed 
the Ornish plan had significantly longer telomeres five years later -- on 
average 10 percent longer. The 25 men who had not followed the program had 
shorter telomeres -- 3 percent shorter on average.

“The more people changed their lifestyles, the more they improved,” Ornish 
said.
Ornish’s diet plan has been shown to reverse heart disease, diabetes and may 
help keep early prostate cancer in check.
Ornish was working with prostate cancer patients who had chosen not to get any 
treatment for their tumors. Only a few men had given enough blood in the study 
to make it possible to test their stored samples, so he thinks a larger study 
should now be conducted.

Ornish says the program is easy to follow. Each of the 10 men had stuck with 
it for five years and longer -- long past the time they were enrolled in the 
study.

“We are getting 85 to 95 percent adherence to our program,” he said. “We are 
getting ridiculously high levels of adherence.”
Ornish says that’s because it’s pleasant, and comprehensive. “And most people 
feel so much better they change their lifestyle,” he said.
“People often think that it has to be a new drug or a new laser, something 
really high-tech and expensive to be powerful. What we are finding is the 
simple choices that we make every day are more powerful.”
 

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: MUM Weds Evening Lecture

2013-09-17 Thread j_alexander_stanley













Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, are you still saying that you think Buck lied and was a liar? Emily, what 
do you think?





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col 
Leed
 


  
Share obfuscated: 

Judy, I don't think your definitions are always the normal ones nor the ones 
expressive of integrity.

You are mistaken.

I asked because I noticed you backpedaled, going from calling Buck a liar to a 
bliss ninny.

No, I don't think that's why you asked, and I know for a fact you didn't 
notice that I backpedaled, because I did nothing of the kind.

I guess you've forgotten once again that what folks say here is recorded in the 
archives.

Here's what I actually said to Buck:

You know what you're doing, and you know it's wrong. Plus which, it makes you 
look like a clumsy bliss-ninny, IMHO.


So this was your purported straightforward rephrasing of your disingenuous 
question?

Really?

Emily nailed it: Everything you post is evidence of what you are negating 
outwardly at the time.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
Share wrote: 


Judy, not surprisingly, you and I have different definitions of straight 
forward, objectivity and reality.

Right, that doesn't surprise me at all. You have your own personal subjective 
definitions that allow you to misrepresent and mislead and obfuscate and 
quibble and confuse and be disingenuous without even the slightest twinge of 
conscience. My definitions are, you know, the normal definitions that most 
people use, especially people with integrity.

But are you still saying that Buck actually lied?!

That's a disingenuous question. Let's see if you can rephrase it so it's 
straightforward. I'm betting not.





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You forget all the evidence of your inability to be straightforward that's in 
the archives, Share. That's objective reality. I know you don't care for 
reality, but that's just too darned bad.

I don't accuse anyone of lying unless they actually lie, you see. It's not just 
my opinion. Most on FFL do not lie, so those that do stand out. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, your repeating such things about me or anyone else for that matter, 
does NOT make it true. These are your opinions and your lack of integrity 
IMO, lies in how you assert them as objective reality.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
No, of course you wouldn't. You wouldn't recognize straightforwardness if it 
bit you in the butt. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, I wouldn't call what you do straight forward at all. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You shouldn't talk, lady. At least whatever it is I do is straightforward.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Maybe it's just another case of the classroom bully.

Share Long:

 Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he wasn't 
 lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he blaspheming 
 as Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? Anyway, Buck wasn't 
 even being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks somebody on FFL is a bliss 
 ninny, that anybody really needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss 
 ninny is like! I stand with Buck and Col Leed. Sgt. Share
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Jason jedi_spock@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 
 
 
   
 
 I don't understand this authbabe.
 
 Just because the Colonel liked it, doesn't have anything to 
 do with integrity.  It's just Buck's playful twist on it.
 
 
 --- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
  You like that he wrote something about the Unified Field  
  and pretended it came from the Bible?
  
  Such integrity. 
 
 
  --- leedwilliam leedwilliam@ wrote:
   
   NICE, going Buck am with U in all
   
   
dhamiltony2k5@ writes:

In National unity of empathy and with great concern  
for the dead
  

[FairfieldLife] RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate

2013-09-17 Thread s3raphita













RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Come Back Raja Luis!

2013-09-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
You have to stoop pretty low to cite  a tragedy like this and
blame it on some poor Hindu pundit boys. This is a pretty
damn low thing to say. How much lower can you guy go?

Michael Jackson wrote:

  Just a glance at the BBC Latin America page and we see two huge 
storms battering Mexico, six people killed in Colombia bar stampede, 
Chile police have arrested hundreds in clashes between police and people 
demonstrating in the streets, police using tear gas and water cannons on 
teachers in Mexico City – what's happening? Did Raja Luis fly all the 
yogic flyers out of the country on vacation?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A History Time-line of the Revolutionary Millenarian TM Movement 1955-'91

2013-09-17 Thread Richard J. Williams

turquoiseb:
 T'would seem that his intention was to *sell*
 this marvelous silence, even then.

That's it - that's all you took away from working for MMY and
Rama for all those years? So, how many mantras did you sell
in the 24 years you were in the cult? You must have somehow
made a lot of money off this stuff f you were able to donate
thousands of dollars to your teachers and still have enough to
pay your own rent. If everything you say is true, then you must
have worked in the Snake-Oil department of the Supermarket.

Go figure.

On 9/16/2013 7:15 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


Buck cites:

 Maharishi 1955

 I have not left the silence of the Himalayas.
 I am out to expand the silence of the Himalayas
 into the *market place* of the modern world.

Interesting choice of words.

T'would seem that his intention was to *sell*
this marvelous silence, even then.






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Seraphita, according to Woody Allen's movie Sleeper, you may be headed in the 
right direction!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gisEb_D6k0o





From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may 
slow down aging at genetic level




Re A program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction can not only 
reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the ageing process: tell us 
something we don't know. I want to hear that smoking 40 a day and downing 
Scotch is beneficial.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


http://www.today.com/health/healthy-diet-may-reverse-aging-study-finds-4B11175619

TODAYHealth
Aging
Healthy diet may reverse aging, study finds
Maggie FoxNBC NewsA program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
can not only reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the aging 
process at the genetic level, researchers reported Monday.

The lifestyle changes affected the telomeres -- little caps on the end of the 
chromosomes that carry the DNA, the team at the University of California, San 
Francisco report.
The report, published in Lancet Oncology, is based on just a few men, and 
prostate cancer patients at that. But it shows surprising results: Men who 
switched to a vegan diet, added exercise and stress reduction had longer 
telomeres.
The men followed a program advocated by Dr. Dean Ornish, who has long 
researched the role of a very low-fat, vegetarian diet in improving health. 
Ornish, a professor of medicine at UCSF, worked with telomere expert Dr. 
Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine for her 
discoveries.
“Taken as a whole, this is really the first study showing that any intervention 
may reduce cellular aging,” Ornish told NBC News. “I think these findings are 
almost certainly not restricted to men with prostate cancer.” 
Ornish and Blackburn’s team examined 10 prostate cancer patients who had chosen 
to try Ornish’s program, and compared them to 25 patients who had not. They all 
had early stage prostate cancer that wasn’t considered dangerous.
The program includes eating a diet high in whole foods, fruits, vegetables, 
unrefined grains and keeping fat to 10 percent of calories. The average 
American gets more than a third of calories from fat. For the first three 
months, volunteers got take-home meals.
They also exercised, walking at least 30 minutes a day, six days a week, did 
yoga-based stretching and breathing exercises, practiced relaxation techniques 
and went to weekly one-hour stress-reduction group sessions. And they gave 
blood samples.
“We found that telomerase increased by 30 percent in just three months,” Ornish 
said. Telomerase is an enzyme that affects telomeres. They also looked at gene 
activity. “Gene expression on 500 genes changed, in every case in a beneficial 
way,” Ornish told NBC News.
Five years later, the team took blood samples again. The 10 men who followed 
the Ornish plan had significantly longer telomeres five years later -- on 
average 10 percent longer. The 25 men who had not followed the program had 
shorter telomeres -- 3 percent shorter on average.

“The more people changed their lifestyles, the more they improved,” Ornish said.
Ornish’s diet plan has been shown to reverse heart disease, diabetes and may 
help keep early prostate cancer in check.
Ornish was working with prostate cancer patients who had chosen not to get any 
treatment for their tumors. Only a few men had given enough blood in the study 
to make it possible to test their stored samples, so he thinks a larger study 
should now be conducted.

Ornish says the program is easy to follow. Each of the 10 men had stuck with it 
for five years and longer -- long past the time they were enrolled in the study.

“We are getting 85 to 95 percent adherence to our program,” he said. “We are 
getting ridiculously high levels of adherence.”
Ornish says that’s because it’s pleasant, and comprehensive. “And most people 
feel so much better they change their lifestyle,” he said.
“People often think that it has to be a new drug or a new laser, something 
really high-tech and expensive to be powerful. What we are finding is the 
simple choices that we make every day are more powerful.”
   


RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate

2013-09-17 Thread Richard J. Williams

 The latest shooter liked to meditate

So, now Buck is being compared to the Navy Yard shooter?

On 9/17/2013 1:23 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Buck is being playful. Does anyone really imagine that the following 
quote could be lifted from the New Testament? “Where two or three are 
gathered in effective transcending meditation there the Unified Field 
will be found multiplied in effect”.



And, as happens, as an interpretation of what the New Testament writer 
was getting at, Buck's is an arguable (loose) interpretation. For 
where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the 
midst of them.  Matthew 18:20


in effective transcending meditation= together in my name. . . 
What are the Christians doing together in his name if not praying, ie, 
meditating? Matthew isn't talking about singing third-rate hymns.


 the Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect= am I in the 
midst of them. . . The I here does not refer to Jesus, a particular 
first-century rabbi, but to Christ Consciousness, ie, the One Self, 
ie, the Unified Field.


Perhaps Buck should do a complete translation of the Bible . . .

PS: rereally needs to come to FF and see what a real bliss ninny is 
like!: if we could go back in a time machine to AD 50 it would be 
funny if all the early Christians we met were in bliss ninny mode.



--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

Exactly Jason! Buck was simply being playful. It's clear to me he 
wasn't lying because it was not his intention to deceive. Nor was he 
blaspheming as Xeno suggested. Maybe Xeno was being playful too? 
Anyway, Buck wasn't even being a bliss ninny. If anybody thinks 
somebody on FFL is a bliss ninny, that anybody really needs to come to 
FF and see what a real bliss ninny is like! I stand with Buck and Col 
Leed. Sgt. Share








RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread sharelong60













Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
IMO you are like all bullies, Judy, a moral coward. You don't have the guts to 
answer me because you realize how wrong it was for you to call Buck a liar and 
assert that he lied. You don't have the guts to apologize to Buck, to admit 
that you were wrong to accuse him of lying. You backpedaled once and you're 
still attempting that.




 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck 
Col Leed
 


  
Share, I asked that you rephrase that question because it was disingenuous, yet 
you're repeating it almost verbatim. And of course you failed to acknowledge 
that you got what I said to Buck very wrong and failed to apologize for 
claiming I backpedaled.

You convict yourself of lack of integrity out of your own mouth while falsely 
accusing someone else of lack of integrity. And by no means for the first time. 

Everything you post is evidence of what you are negating outwardly at the 
time.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, are you still saying that you think Buck lied and was a liar? Emily, what 
do you think?





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col 
Leed
 


  
Share obfuscated: 

Judy, I don't think your definitions are always the normal ones nor the ones 
expressive of integrity.

You are mistaken.

I asked because I noticed you backpedaled, going from calling Buck a liar to a 
bliss ninny.

No, I don't think that's why you asked, and I know for a fact you didn't 
notice that I backpedaled, because I did nothing of the kind.

I guess you've forgotten once again that what folks say here is recorded in the 
archives.

Here's what I actually said to Buck:

You know what you're doing, and you know it's wrong. Plus which, it makes you 
look like a clumsy bliss-ninny, IMHO.


So this was your purported straightforward rephrasing of your disingenuous 
question?

Really?

Emily nailed it: Everything you post is evidence of what you are negating 
outwardly at the time.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
Share wrote: 


Judy, not surprisingly, you and I have different definitions of straight 
forward, objectivity and reality.

Right, that doesn't surprise me at all. You have your own personal subjective 
definitions that allow you to misrepresent and mislead and obfuscate and 
quibble and confuse and be disingenuous without even the slightest twinge of 
conscience. My definitions are, you know, the normal definitions that most 
people use, especially people with integrity.

But are you still saying that Buck actually lied?!

That's a disingenuous question. Let's see if you can rephrase it so it's 
straightforward. I'm betting not.





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You forget all the evidence of your inability to be straightforward that's in 
the archives, Share. That's objective reality. I know you don't care for 
reality, but that's just too darned bad.

I don't accuse anyone of lying unless they actually lie, you see. It's not just 
my opinion. Most on FFL do not lie, so those that do stand out. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, your repeating such things about me or anyone else for that matter, 
does NOT make it true. These are your opinions and your lack of integrity 
IMO, lies in how you assert them as objective reality.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
No, of course you wouldn't. You wouldn't recognize straightforwardness if it 
bit you in the butt. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, I wouldn't call what you do straight forward at all. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed
 


  
You shouldn't talk, lady. At least whatever it is I do is straightforward.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


Maybe it's just another case of the classroom bully.

Share Long:

 Exactly Jason! 

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread awoelflebater













RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: I stand with U Buck Col Leed

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread Emily Reyn
Share has a way of working unconsciously, I think, to hijack a thread and 
superimpose her reality on top of others', trying to turn theirs into 
meaningless frivolity.  Her manner of doing this is deceptive and reeks of 
disguised disrespect and ego running rampantly wild, and more often than not 
ensures that the trajectory of the thread she is involved with will devolve 
into nonsensical conversation.  It's painful to watch.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
IMHO, Doc, a few of those good guy vampires in the Twilight series were not 
creepy at all!





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Once you are dead enough, to all your false identities, you can do almost 
anything you want, remaining quite healthy. A deathless existence, only without 
the creepy vampire vibe. :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re A program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction can not only 
reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the ageing process: tell us 
something we don't know. I want to hear that smoking 40 a day and downing 
Scotch is beneficial.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


http://www.today.com/health/healthy-diet-may-reverse-aging-study-finds-4B11175619

TODAYHealth
Aging
Healthy diet may reverse aging, study finds
Maggie FoxNBC NewsA program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
can not only reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the aging 
process at the genetic level, researchers reported Monday.

The lifestyle changes affected the telomeres -- little caps on the end of the 
chromosomes that carry the DNA, the team at the University of California, San 
Francisco report.
The report, published in Lancet Oncology, is based on just a few men, and 
prostate cancer patients at that. But it shows surprising results: Men who 
switched to a vegan diet, added exercise and stress reduction had longer 
telomeres.
The men followed a program advocated by Dr. Dean Ornish, who has long 
researched the role of a very low-fat, vegetarian diet in improving health. 
Ornish, a professor of medicine at UCSF, worked with telomere expert Dr. 
Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine for her 
discoveries.
“Taken as a whole, this is really the first study showing that any 
intervention may reduce cellular aging,” Ornish told NBC News. “I think these 
findings are almost certainly not restricted to men with prostate cancer.” 
Ornish and Blackburn’s team examined 10 prostate cancer patients who had 
chosen to try Ornish’s program, and compared them to 25 patients who had not. 
They all had early stage prostate cancer that wasn’t considered dangerous.
The program includes eating a diet high in whole foods, fruits, vegetables, 
unrefined grains and keeping fat to 10 percent of calories. The average 
American gets more than a third of calories from fat. For the first three 
months, volunteers got take-home meals.
They also exercised, walking at least 30 minutes a day, six days a week, did 
yoga-based stretching and breathing exercises, practiced relaxation techniques 
and went to weekly one-hour stress-reduction group sessions. And they gave 
blood samples.
“We found that telomerase increased by 30 percent in just three months,” 
Ornish said. Telomerase is an enzyme that affects telomeres. They also looked 
at gene activity. “Gene expression on 500 genes changed, in every case in a 
beneficial way,” Ornish told NBC News.
Five years later, the team took blood samples again. The 10 men who followed 
the Ornish plan had significantly longer telomeres five years later -- on 
average 10 percent longer. The 25 men who had not followed the program had 
shorter telomeres -- 3 percent shorter on average.

“The more people changed their lifestyles, the more they improved,” Ornish 
said.
Ornish’s diet plan has been shown to reverse heart disease, diabetes and may 
help keep early prostate cancer in check.
Ornish was working with prostate cancer patients who had chosen not to get any 
treatment for their tumors. Only a few men had given enough blood in the study 
to make it possible to test their stored samples, so he thinks a larger study 
should now be conducted.

Ornish says the program is easy to follow. Each of the 10 men had stuck with 
it for five years and longer -- long past the time they were enrolled in the 
study.

“We are getting 85 to 95 percent 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] Listen to this Share, please

2013-09-17 Thread Emily Reyn
Can you feel this Share?  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgaFKqnj0dg


Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread Emily Reyn
Yep.  Gotta roll on for the day.  Have a good one.  



 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
She seems to feel she has to put her oar into every conversation one way or 
another, whether it contributes anything or not. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Share has a way of working unconsciously, I think, to hijack a thread and 
superimpose her reality on top of others', trying to turn theirs into 
meaningless frivolity.  Her manner of doing this is deceptive and reeks of 
disguised disrespect and ego running rampantly wild, and more often than not 
ensures that the trajectory of the thread she is involved with will devolve 
into nonsensical conversation.  It's painful to watch.  



 From: Share Long sharelong60@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
IMHO, Doc, a few of those good guy vampires in the Twilight series were not 
creepy at all!





 From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Once you are dead enough, to all your false identities, you can do almost 
anything you want, remaining quite healthy. A deathless existence, only without 
the creepy vampire vibe. :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re A program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction can not only 
reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the ageing process: tell us 
something we don't know. I want to hear that smoking 40 a day and downing 
Scotch is beneficial.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


http://www.today.com/health/healthy-diet-may-reverse-aging-study-finds-4B11175619

TODAYHealth
Aging
Healthy diet may reverse aging, study finds
Maggie FoxNBC NewsA program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
can not only reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the aging 
process at the genetic level, researchers reported Monday.

The lifestyle changes affected the telomeres -- little caps on the end of the 
chromosomes that carry the DNA, the team at the University of California, San 
Francisco report.
The report, published in Lancet Oncology, is based on just a few men, and 
prostate cancer patients at that. But it shows surprising results: Men who 
switched to a vegan diet, added exercise and stress reduction had longer 
telomeres.
The men followed a program advocated by Dr. Dean Ornish, who has long 
researched the role of a very low-fat, vegetarian diet in improving health. 
Ornish, a professor of medicine at UCSF, worked with telomere expert Dr. 
Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine for her 
discoveries.
“Taken as a whole, this is really the first study showing that any 
intervention may reduce cellular aging,” Ornish told NBC News. “I think these 
findings are almost certainly not restricted to men with prostate cancer.” 
Ornish and Blackburn’s team examined 10 prostate cancer patients who had 
chosen to try Ornish’s program, and compared them to 25 patients who had not. 
They all had early stage prostate cancer that wasn’t considered dangerous.
The program includes eating a diet high in whole foods, fruits, vegetables, 
unrefined grains and keeping fat to 10 percent of calories. The average 
American gets more than a third of calories from fat. For the first three 
months, volunteers got take-home meals.
They also exercised, walking at least 30 minutes a day, six days a week, did 
yoga-based stretching and breathing exercises, practiced relaxation 
techniques and went to weekly one-hour stress-reduction group sessions. And 
they gave blood samples.
“We found that telomerase increased by 30 percent in just three months,” 
Ornish said. Telomerase is an enzyme that affects telomeres. They also looked 
at gene activity. “Gene expression on 500 genes changed, in every case in a 
beneficial way,” Ornish told NBC News.
Five years later, the team took blood samples again. The 10 men who followed 
the Ornish plan had significantly longer telomeres five years later -- on 
average 10 percent longer. The 25 men who had not followed the program had 
shorter telomeres -- 3 percent shorter on average.

“The more people changed their lifestyles, the more they improved,” Ornish 
said.
Ornish’s diet plan has been shown to reverse heart disease, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Emily, IMO Doc has a pretty good sense of humor. Plus he ended his post with a 
smiley face so I assumed he was already in a light hearted frame of mind. I was 
continuing in that vein.





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Share has a way of working unconsciously, I think, to hijack a thread and 
superimpose her reality on top of others', trying to turn theirs into 
meaningless frivolity.  Her manner of doing this is deceptive and reeks of 
disguised disrespect and ego running rampantly wild, and more often than not 
ensures that the trajectory of the thread she is involved with will devolve 
into nonsensical conversation.  It's painful to watch.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
IMHO, Doc, a few of those good guy vampires in the Twilight series were not 
creepy at all!





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Once you are dead enough, to all your false identities, you can do almost 
anything you want, remaining quite healthy. A deathless existence, only without 
the creepy vampire vibe. :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re A program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction can not only 
reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the ageing process: tell us 
something we don't know. I want to hear that smoking 40 a day and downing 
Scotch is beneficial.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


http://www.today.com/health/healthy-diet-may-reverse-aging-study-finds-4B11175619

TODAYHealth
Aging
Healthy diet may reverse aging, study finds
Maggie FoxNBC NewsA program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
can not only reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the aging 
process at the genetic level, researchers reported Monday.

The lifestyle changes affected the telomeres -- little caps on the end of the 
chromosomes that carry the DNA, the team at the University of California, San 
Francisco report.
The report, published in Lancet Oncology, is based on just a few men, and 
prostate cancer patients at that. But it shows surprising results: Men who 
switched to a vegan diet, added exercise and stress reduction had longer 
telomeres.
The men followed a program advocated by Dr. Dean Ornish, who has long 
researched the role of a very low-fat, vegetarian diet in improving health. 
Ornish, a professor of medicine at UCSF, worked with telomere expert Dr. 
Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine for her 
discoveries.
“Taken as a whole, this is really the first study showing that any 
intervention may reduce cellular aging,” Ornish told NBC News. “I think these 
findings are almost certainly not restricted to men with prostate cancer.” 
Ornish and Blackburn’s team examined 10 prostate cancer patients who had 
chosen to try Ornish’s program, and compared them to 25 patients who had not. 
They all had early stage prostate cancer that wasn’t considered dangerous.
The program includes eating a diet high in whole foods, fruits, vegetables, 
unrefined grains and keeping fat to 10 percent of calories. The average 
American gets more than a third of calories from fat. For the first three 
months, volunteers got take-home meals.
They also exercised, walking at least 30 minutes a day, six days a week, did 
yoga-based stretching and breathing exercises, practiced relaxation techniques 
and went to weekly one-hour stress-reduction group sessions. And they gave 
blood samples.
“We found that telomerase increased by 30 percent in just three months,” 
Ornish said. Telomerase is an enzyme that affects telomeres. They also looked 
at gene activity. “Gene expression on 500 genes changed, in every case in a 
beneficial way,” Ornish told NBC News.
Five years later, the team took blood samples again. The 10 men who followed 
the Ornish plan had significantly longer telomeres five years later -- on 
average 10 percent longer. The 25 men who had not followed the program had 
shorter telomeres -- 3 percent shorter on average.

“The more people changed their lifestyles, the more they improved,” Ornish 
said.
Ornish’s diet plan has been shown to reverse heart disease, diabetes and may 
help keep 

[FairfieldLife] Dharma#39;s Online Charity Auction Is Open for Bidding

2013-09-17 Thread leeleffler













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread jr_esq













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Ok, Ann, I haven't had it happen that Conversations will not load. Maybe 
someone else can explain.





 From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:54 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig 
muck pit...
 


  
 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


But Ann, if you reply from Conversations, as I'm doing here, the post comes 
through in Conversations almost immediately.  

Yes, I know but most of the time when I click on Conversations it will either 
not load or if it does and I want to go back to read more conversations by 
clicking on the back arrow it will not go anywhere so, frankly, I have almost 
given up reading the website. It is basically fucked.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


YES! I wrote about this yesterday. This lag time issue really takes the 
punch out of conversing here. It is like shouting into the mountains and 
waiting a long time to get an echo. It takes the immediacy and the 
effectiveness of dialogue away. FFL functioning like this is not nearly as 
dynamic. I hope it sorts itself out in the next little while because this 
scrambled, badly-timed, messages-gone-missing business is absurd.
 

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate

2013-09-17 Thread s3raphita













[FairfieldLife] RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate

2013-09-17 Thread s3raphita













Re: [FairfieldLife] Come Back Raja Luis!

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson
you are a complete idiot - I said nothing about pundits - the flyers in Latin 
America are supposed to be native teens that these raja types have taught to 
fly - how many thousands was it again?

These posts I make about the situations in Latin America are completely 
legitimate in that others make posts praising Raja Luis when the sun comes up 
in the East, or when a bird sings or when water flows downhill. The TM boosters 
claim that there is a collective 8,000 flyers whose daily program is performing 
miracles, so when these things happen that one would think should not happen if 
the TM groups are creating coherence, why not ask why? 

And, get a clue Mr.Texas Willy, it has nothing to do with Hindu boys. Besides 
which you assertion that I am racists towards Hindus is idiocy first because I 
am not racist in general and not
 towards Hindus. You can't be racist towards a religious group. That is simply 
called prejudice or religious prejudice. 

Racism can only be expressed towards an ethnic group, because its based on 
race, on ethnicity, so if I were to make mean remarks towards Indians 
themselves, that would be racist. Perhaps you should consider taking classes at 
a community college. Maybe start with reading comprehension. Or logic.  





 From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Come Back Raja Luis!
 


  
You have to stoop pretty low to cite  a tragedy like this and
blame it on some poor Hindu pundit boys. This is a pretty
damn low thing to say. How much lower can you guy go?

Michael Jackson wrote:

 Just a glance at the BBC Latin America page and we see two huge 
storms battering Mexico, six people killed in Colombia bar stampede, 
Chile police have arrested hundreds in clashes between police and people 
demonstrating in the streets, police using tear gas and water cannons on 
teachers in Mexico City – what's happening? Did Raja Luis fly all the 
yogic flyers out of the country on vacation?

 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread authfriend













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[FairfieldLife] RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate

2013-09-17 Thread emptybill













[FairfieldLife] FFL, in the Middle of Corn and Beans

2013-09-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread Share Long
Actually, Emily, I'm pretty sure I got Doc's point. But since he made it in a 
light hearted manner, I chose to respond in a light hearted manner.





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Yes, I don't dispute that...but in doing so in the manner you did, you managed 
to miss his point entirely, IMHO, Share.  I'm just one individual here, and 
this is just the way I interpreted it.  What does the letter H stand for in 
this acronym?



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Emily, IMO Doc has a pretty good sense of humor. Plus he ended his post with a 
smiley face so I assumed he was already in a light hearted frame of mind. I was 
continuing in that vein.





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Share has a way of working unconsciously, I think, to hijack a thread and 
superimpose her reality on top of others', trying to turn theirs into 
meaningless frivolity.  Her manner of doing this is deceptive and reeks of 
disguised disrespect and ego running rampantly wild, and more often than not 
ensures that the trajectory of the thread she is involved with will devolve 
into nonsensical conversation.  It's painful to watch.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
IMHO, Doc, a few of those good guy vampires in the Twilight series were not 
creepy at all!





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Once you are dead enough, to all your false identities, you can do almost 
anything you want, remaining quite healthy. A deathless existence, only without 
the creepy vampire vibe. :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re A program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction can not only 
reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the ageing process: tell us 
something we don't know. I want to hear that smoking 40 a day and downing 
Scotch is beneficial.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


http://www.today.com/health/healthy-diet-may-reverse-aging-study-finds-4B11175619

TODAYHealth
Aging
Healthy diet may reverse aging, study finds
Maggie FoxNBC NewsA program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
can not only reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the aging 
process at the genetic level, researchers reported Monday.

The lifestyle changes affected the telomeres -- little caps on the end of the 
chromosomes that carry the DNA, the team at the University of California, San 
Francisco report.
The report, published in Lancet Oncology, is based on just a few men, and 
prostate cancer patients at that. But it shows surprising results: Men who 
switched to a vegan diet, added exercise and stress reduction had longer 
telomeres.
The men followed a program advocated by Dr. Dean Ornish, who has long 
researched the role of a very low-fat, vegetarian diet in improving health. 
Ornish, a professor of medicine at UCSF, worked with telomere expert Dr. 
Elizabeth Blackburn, who won the 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine for her 
discoveries.
“Taken as a whole, this is really the first study showing that any 
intervention may reduce cellular aging,” Ornish told NBC News. “I think these 
findings are almost certainly not restricted to men with prostate cancer.” 
Ornish and Blackburn’s team examined 10 prostate cancer patients who had 
chosen to try Ornish’s program, and compared them to 25 patients who had not. 
They all had early stage prostate cancer that wasn’t considered dangerous.
The program includes eating a diet high in whole foods, fruits, vegetables, 
unrefined grains and keeping fat to 10 percent of calories. The average 
American gets more than a third of calories from fat. For the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The latest shooter liked to meditate

2013-09-17 Thread Richard J. Williams

You guys have gone off the deep end now, for sure!

Are you talking about Buck or are you just confused?

On 9/17/2013 7:22 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Ya gotta love a daimon that murders anyone



Ya gotta love a daimon that murders anyone, even the

followers family, who puts wants to put limits on them.


Bless our Angela of the YHVH daimon.






--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

Re In mainstream Christianity, Jesus is not Christ Consciousness: 
That's why I would never be a mainstream Christian. But taking Jesus' 
saying I as referring to impersonal Christ Consciousness was 
bleeding obvious to both ancient Gnostic Christians and medieval 
mystics. The following quote would leave your average modern 
church-goer slack-jawed with astonishment:



In that time, and by God's will there died my mother, who was a great 
hindrance unto me in following the way of God; my husband died 
likewise, and a short time there also died all my children. And 
because I had commenced to follow the aforesaid way and had prayed God 
that He would rid me of them, I had great consolation in their 
deaths. - Blessed Angela of Foligno




--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


In mainstream Christianity, Jesus is not Christ Consciousness .
. . but he is understood as a divine personal being to whom one
can relate directly, not just a type of higher consciousness.


I also think to equate There am I in the midst of them with The
Unified Field will be found multiplied in effect is a huge
stretch, especially since the Unified Field is impersonal, whereas
Jesus is personal.








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2013-09-17 Thread awoelflebater













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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction may slow down aging at genetic level

2013-09-17 Thread Emily Reyn
Dear Share, thank you as always for the enlightening conversation.  You missed 
my point, but no matter Share.  And, I will answer my own question.  The letter 
H in IMHO, stands for Humble.  There, I wrote it.  Whoooe.  That was 
hard.  I must be accountable Share so, off I go to try, try, again.  I'm over 
my goal of no more than 14 posts per week.  That's 2/day and I managed to lose 
track.  How *does* that happen! I'm going to have to give it up to JC - lots of 
reminders here of late.  Must mean Christmas is comingyesthat's it.  
Yikes.  Peace out.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Actually, Emily, I'm pretty sure I got Doc's point. But since he made it in a 
light hearted manner, I chose to respond in a light hearted manner.





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Yes, I don't dispute that...but in doing so in the manner you did, you managed 
to miss his point entirely, IMHO, Share.  I'm just one individual here, and 
this is just the way I interpreted it.  What does the letter H stand for in 
this acronym?



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Emily, IMO Doc has a pretty good sense of humor. Plus he ended his post with a 
smiley face so I assumed he was already in a light hearted frame of mind. I was 
continuing in that vein.





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Share has a way of working unconsciously, I think, to hijack a thread and 
superimpose her reality on top of others', trying to turn theirs into 
meaningless frivolity.  Her manner of doing this is deceptive and reeks of 
disguised disrespect and ego running rampantly wild, and more often than not 
ensures that the trajectory of the thread she is involved with will devolve 
into nonsensical conversation.  It's painful to watch.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress 
reduction may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
IMHO, Doc, a few of those good guy vampires in the Twilight series were not 
creepy at all!





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 8:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
may slow down aging at genetic level
 


  
Once you are dead enough, to all your false identities, you can do almost 
anything you want, remaining quite healthy. A deathless existence, only without 
the creepy vampire vibe. :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Re A program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction can not only 
reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the ageing process: tell us 
something we don't know. I want to hear that smoking 40 a day and downing 
Scotch is beneficial.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


http://www.today.com/health/healthy-diet-may-reverse-aging-study-finds-4B11175619

TODAYHealth
Aging
Healthy diet may reverse aging, study finds
Maggie FoxNBC NewsA program of healthy eating, exercise and stress reduction 
can not only reverse some diseases -- it may actually slow down the aging 
process at the genetic level, researchers reported Monday.

The lifestyle changes affected the telomeres -- little caps on the end of the 
chromosomes that carry the DNA, the team at the University of California, San 
Francisco report.
The report, published in Lancet Oncology, is based on just a few men, and 
prostate cancer patients at that. But it shows surprising results: Men who 
switched to a vegan diet, added exercise and stress reduction had longer 
telomeres.
The men followed a program advocated by Dr. Dean Ornish, who has long 
researched the