[FairfieldLife] Another open letter to Share
Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you. We know why they do this -- they're petty, angry pissants who can't get anyone to respond to them *except* by bullying them. But why do YOU participate, and in effect *encourage* them to do this by responding to them? Is this the only way YOU can think of to get any attention? I'm suggesting that you consider just IGNORING these pissants the way that most other people on the forum do. If you did, that would cut the overall post numbers down to less than half of what they are now, and the overall vibe and intelligence level of the forum would be better for it. Continuing to reply to them, as if it were all some kind of contest that one or more of you could possibly win makes you look as insane as they are.
[FairfieldLife] A Fool for Christ
Here's an inspirational story of Dobry Dobrev, a 98 year-old beggar who raises money to restore churches throughout Bulgaria. He doesn't want fame and does not want to divulge details of his daily life - what an angel ! http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/a-well-done-deed-the-value-of-kindness/ http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/a-well-done-deed-the-value-of-kindness/
[FairfieldLife] For us magnet-loving aspergers...
http://www.grand-illusions.com/acatalog/Magnetic_Toys.html http://www.grand-illusions.com/acatalog/Magnetic_Toys.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists
Suvi Teräs-niska (Summer Steel-neck) Täydellinen elämä (Perfect life), even some non-Finns seem to dig this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73GZKW7dP_E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73GZKW7dP_E ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Back when people could actually sing and play music for real: Bob Seeger The Silver Bullet Band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Seger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Seger Night Moves Live-Bob Seger: http://youtu.be/mKaHci9Mc4A http://youtu.be/mKaHci9Mc4A Early Detroit Band: Marshall Crenshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Crenshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Crenshaw Marshall Crenshaw 2010 Detroit All Star Revue: http://youtu.be/HiaYst5wIQI http://youtu.be/HiaYst5wIQI
[FairfieldLife] TM didn#39;t render them perfect...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II75dErPVSk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II75dErPVSk
[FairfieldLife] Parallel universes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywn2Lz5zmYg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another open letter to Share
Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you. We know why they do this -- they're petty, angry pissants who can't get anyone to respond to them *except* by bullying them. But why do YOU participate, and in effect *encourage* them to do this by responding to them? Is this the only way YOU can think of to get any attention? I'm suggesting that you consider just IGNORING these pissants the way that most other people on the forum do. If you did, that would cut the overall post numbers down to less than half of what they are now, and the overall vibe and intelligence level of the forum would be better for it. Continuing to reply to them, as if it were all some kind of contest that one or more of you could possibly win makes you look as insane as they are.
[FairfieldLife] laisha vidya and Brahman
For those who might be interested, I heard through the grapevine that Rick's interview with Jerry Freeman has some great insights about laisha vidya and Brahman, beginning after 1:30. Jerry Freeman Interview on Batgap http://batgap.com/jerry-freeman/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kennedy assassination 50 years on
One fascinating theory I read in a spy novel, was that the Vietnamese blamed Kennedy's loyalty to the Pope for America's getting involved in Vietnam and that they were the masterminds behind his assassination. On a more personal level, I'm sure everyone here can remember where they were on that day. For the younger posters, 9/11 is that kind of turning point. On Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:30 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: What we want to know is who fired the fourth kill shot from the grassy knoll? It's obvious there was a cover up. We already know why the CIA and the FBI wanted to hide Oswald's secret trip to Mexico. And, we already know how the coroner's original report was destroyed. But, what's up with Marina burning the photo of Oswald posing with the rifle? Go figure. After reviewing these books, you may begin to understand why I have my doubts about the Warren Commission Report. JFK (film): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_(film) Lee Harvey Oswald http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald 'Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy' by Jim Marrs Basic Books, Revised Edition edition, October 22, 2013 'Who Really Killed Kennedy?' 50 Years Later: Stunning New Revelations About the JFK Assassination by Jerome Corsi WND Books, September 17, 2013) 'A Cruel and Shocking Act: The Secret History of the Kennedy Assassination' by Philip Shenon Henry Holt and Co.; First Edition edition, October 29, 2013 On 11/17/2013 4:41 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Here in the UK the BBC has produced a mass of program(me)s to mark the anniversary of Jack's death (6.30pm British time). It's also clearing three hours of its drive-time and early-evening schedule on Radio 2 on 22 November telling the story minute by minute, as if it was happening in real time, starting with the departure of the Presidential motorcade from Dallas airport shortly before midday (US time), and finishing with vice-president Lyndon B Johnson being sworn in as President three hours later. It's an intriguing coincidence that C. S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day. I wonder if the BBC will run any program(me)s marking their passing. In 1949, Huxley wrote to George Orwell, author of Nineteen Eighty-Four, predicting: Within the next generation I believe that the world's leaders will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience. What's the world like round your neck of the woods?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another open letter to Share
It's your call, Share. I'm just trying to...uh...share with you my perspective, which is that the primary reason they continue to pick on you is that you DO reply to them. Almost no one else does. Who, after all, cares what any of these people think of them or say about them? But they see you as an easy mark, in that they can say something nasty about you, and you'll reply, allowing them to say something *else* nasty as a followup, and also allowing them to pile on to each others' nastiness, and do their Mean Girls Club thang again. The fact that they're *talking to each other* and patting each other on the back for just how nasty they've managed to be today gives them the illusion that they actually have an audience for what they do here. Deprive them of this, and they'll dry up and go away. Even if they don't, you won't get slimed by interacting with them, and the rest of us will have fewer slime-posts to wade through. The whole scene IS, in a very literal way, a bunch of old women acting like Junior High School mean girls. Where's the payoff for you in becoming one of them by encouraging them to keep doing it through your participation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Â Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you. We know why they do this -- they're petty, angry pissants who can't get anyone to respond to them *except* by bullying them. But why do YOU participate, and in effect *encourage* them to do this by responding to them? Is this the only way YOU can think of to get any attention? I'm suggesting that you consider just IGNORING these pissants the way that most other people on the forum do. If you did, that would cut the overall post numbers down to less than half of what they are now, and the overall vibe and intelligence level of the forum would be better for it. Continuing to reply to them, as if it were all some kind of contest that one or more of you could possibly win makes you look as insane as they are.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another open letter to Share
turq, thanks again. Why does anyone participate on FFL? Meaning, I don't think my motives and payoffs are much different than anyone else's. Anyway, I haven't read some MGC from last night. I read Doc and indiff and got the tenor of the deluge. Probably I'll wait for another set of waves! And I'll be more attentive to that whole payoff thing. On Monday, November 18, 2013 6:51 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: It's your call, Share. I'm just trying to...uh...share with you my perspective, which is that the primary reason they continue to pick on you is that you DO reply to them. Almost no one else does. Who, after all, cares what any of these people think of them or say about them? But they see you as an easy mark, in that they can say something nasty about you, and you'll reply, allowing them to say something *else* nasty as a followup, and also allowing them to pile on to each others' nastiness, and do their Mean Girls Club thang again. The fact that they're *talking to each other* and patting each other on the back for just how nasty they've managed to be today gives them the illusion that they actually have an audience for what they do here. Deprive them of this, and they'll dry up and go away. Even if they don't, you won't get slimed by interacting with them, and the rest of us will have fewer slime-posts to wade through. The whole scene IS, in a very literal way, a bunch of old women acting like Junior High School mean girls. Where's the payoff for you in becoming one of them by encouraging them to keep doing it through your participation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Â Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you. We know why they do this -- they're petty, angry pissants who can't get anyone to respond to them *except* by bullying them. But why do YOU participate, and in effect *encourage* them to do this by responding to them? Is this the only way YOU can think of to get any attention? I'm suggesting that you consider just IGNORING these pissants the way that most other people on the forum do. If you did, that would cut the overall post numbers down to less than half of what they are now, and the overall vibe and intelligence level of the forum would be better for it. Continuing to reply to them, as if it were all some kind of contest that one or more of you could possibly win makes
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM didn#39;t render them perfect...
Card, but transcendental meditation makes people more perfect. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II75dErPVSk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II75dErPVSk
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Are there any TMers on this list?
And, non-meditators.. Ha, ha, ha.
“They whose awareness is not open to this level of reality, what can these
eternal expressions of knowledge accomplish for them? But the whose awareness
is open to it -the field of pure consciousness, the home of all knowledge- are
profoundly established in it.”
You asked about transcendental meditating {?}
transcendental meditation:
“Richa is situated in Akshara: knowledge is structured in consciousness, the
nonchanging transcendental basis of all relative existence, in which reside the
impulses of creative intelligence responsible for the whole manifest universe.
Well, of course there are a few of us here. Once initiated as a transcending
meditation TMer then always a TMer. There's no going back. Then, practically
there are meditators who are practitioners, the irregulars or fallen away, and
those meditators who are quitters. Now, one might not be actively part of the
TM movement, but you Be a meditator then anyway that you want to parse your
affinity with the TM movement. But conversely someone here who has never been
initiated and instructed in meditation by an experienced transcending
meditation TM teacher is definitely a non-meditator. Clueless, they have no
idea what is going on as non-meditators.
-Buck
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Yes, spiritual but not religious modern Unified Field Physicists; aka Saivites
of a former period.
“A more likely probability is that some are Saivite nondualists, not Buddhists
nondualists”.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote:
Right; but one can be a TMer without being a TB.
Sam Harris on the roots of good and evil.
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-roots-of-good-and-evil
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-roots-of-good-and-evil
...
On the question of whether the butt-bouncers are Buddhists. Most are
non-dualists, of which the two major camps are (most of Buddhism); and Saivite
(what is called by Westerners Hinduism). Ramana Maharshi was definitely a
devotee of Arunachala Shiva but never claimed to be a Hindu.
...
In short, the TM - TB butt bouncers are mostly nondualists but not necessarily
Buddhists. In order to fit into the latter, one would (also) have to be
aligned with some of the Buddhist icons or Yidams. It's safe to say that few
TM practitioners are also devoted to Chenrizig, the Green Tara, etc;.and
are thus not Buddhists except for the non-dualist part.
A more likely probability is that some are Saivite nondualists, not Buddhists
nondualists.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:
TM is not trademarked in the United Kingdom.
So, ever since I first saw the term TMer used in a post by Judy, I've
been asking her, and everyone else that comes here, what a TMer is.
Nobody has been able to answer that question - case in point. All I
could get out of you was that tantra means a thread - not very
helpful. If you can't even define what TM is, how could you say what a
TMer is? Go figure.
So, let's do the math:
1. A TMer practices TM twice a day for twenty minutes.
2. A TMer meditates exactly twenty minutes, no more no less.
3. A TMer always practices TM twice a day, no exceptions.
4. A TMer has always practiced TM every single day since he or she
learned TM.
5. A TMer is a TMer if he or she says they are a TMer.
On 11/15/2013 1:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Transcendental Meditation is a registered trademark. To the general
public when you say TM in terms of meditation they will know you mean
the thing that the Beatles' Maharishi taught. Apply generalities to
other meditation practices which of course DO transcend tends to muddy
the waters as far as meaning. You're giving TM the Xerox syndrome.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: MUM and the Tree of Knowledge
RW writes: Most of the TMers in Fairfield are aligned with the Yidam represented by the Patanjali Golden Dome, a Yantra based on Buddhist principles. So, let's review the principles of Buddhist edifice architecture: The Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Fairfield, IA (not to be confused with the Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Radience, TX) is a sort of Buddhist stupa or a hollow tope, surmounted by a kalasa, supported by the amalaka in which the akasha, symbolizing dimensionless space, is supported by the linga, with an eight-angled cintamani vajra, an 8-sided prototypic harmika with a rail, surrounding the hypaethral pavilion, constituting a veritible chaitya-garbha pradakshina with a nice fence around it! Everyone knows that a hemispherical shape for edifice architecture is favored by devotees of Tara and Saraswati, the Hindu Goddess of Knowledge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupa Great Stupa at Sarnath, India ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Vedamerlin? I see in the FFL photos section the artwork for the Global Country emblem and flag. Also the tree of agriculture. Vedamerlin posted both. I'd like to be able to share them with some folks studying this kind of artwork but can't copy them out of the FFL photos section and people have to be FFL members to peek. Veda, can you send them in the body of an e-mail post to FFL so they can be seen by everyone? I would appreciate that and I think they would be appreciated by others if they could be seen. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Anybody have an image of the Wish-yielding Tree from the brochure to look at? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the wish-yielding tree that symbolizes the effortless ability to fulfill desires from the level of Natural Law. On the cover of a textbook for the Ideal Girls School: The cover, designed by Heather Hartnett, depicts the Kalp Vriksha, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One lapel pin I'd like to have is the Global Country of World Peace pin, the one with the graphic of the rising sun with its Golden rays. A little bit before LB Shriver passed away he gave me his SRM lapel pin, the intricate one with the face of Guru Dev Brahmananda Saraswati embossed on it and the words “In God Consciousness Peace Energy Happiness Jai Guru Dev SRM . I wear it along with my National Network to Freedom pin on my Quaker vest lapel. I'd add the Global Country pin if I had one. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Zoar [Ohio] prospered for 80 years. A seven pointed star of Bethlehem was chosen as the emblem and the acorn from which the mighty oak grows was their symbol of strength. The emblem of the separatists, a huge star in red, white and yellow. Members wore similar emblems on their shoulders to distinguish themselves from strangers visiting the village. [The emblem was really cool and obviously had a lot of symbolism in it. I looked all around the gift shop and bookstore to try to buy one or get a picture or postcard and there was none to be had as I recently visited Zoar.] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: SHAKER TREE OF LIFE This Shaker drawing, known as the Tree of Life, is the most famous of the all Shaker gift drawings. To the Shakers, fruit-bearing trees represented the unspoiled loveliness of the Garden of Eden. It was painted at Hancock Shaker Village in 1854. This is a limited edition serigraph (silk screen print) of the original. It is framed under glass in a solid cherry wood frame. Frame is finished with hand-rubbed oil and wax. Framed size is 26 wide x 21 high. Ready to hang. Made in USA. City of Peace Monday July, 3rd 1854. I received a draft of a beautiful Tree pencil'd on a large sheet of paper bearing ripe fruit. I saw it plainly; it looked very singular and curious to me. I have since learned that this tree grows in the Spirit Land. Afterwards the spirit shew'd me plainly the branches, leaves and fruit, painted or drawn upon paper. The leaves were check'd or cross'd and the same colors you see here. I entreated Mother Ann to tell me the name of this tree: which she did Oct. 1st 4th hour P.M. by moving the hand of a medium to write twice over Your Tree is the Tree of Life. Seen and painted by, Hannah Cohoon. This Shaker drawing is known as the Tree of Life. Each Shaker spirit drawing was preceded by a heavenly vision which was transferred to paper in meticulous detail. The Tree of Life was seen and painted by Sister Hanna Cohoon at the Hancock community in the summer of 1854. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The center piece of Zoar is the 3
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: MUM and the Tree of Knowledge
Form Follows Faith: The Influence of Belief on the Architecture and Crafts of American Communal Societies OCTOBER 9-11, 2014 Amana, Iowa Deadline for Submission of Paper and Session Proposals: April 30, 2014 RW writes: Most of the TMers in Fairfield are aligned with the Yidam represented by the Patanjali Golden Dome, a Yantra based on Buddhist principles. So, let's review the principles of Buddhist edifice architecture: The Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Fairfield, IA (not to be confused with the Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Radience, TX) is a sort of Buddhist stupa or a hollow tope, surmounted by a kalasa, supported by the amalaka in which the akasha, symbolizing dimensionless space, is supported by the linga, with an eight-angled cintamani vajra, an 8-sided prototypic harmika with a rail, surrounding the hypaethral pavilion, constituting a veritible chaitya-garbha pradakshina with a nice fence around it! Everyone knows that a hemispherical shape for edifice architecture is favored by devotees of Tara and Saraswati, the Hindu Goddess of Knowledge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupa Great Stupa at Sarnath, India ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Vedamerlin? I see in the FFL photos section the artwork for the Global Country emblem and flag. Also the tree of agriculture. Vedamerlin posted both. I'd like to be able to share them with some folks studying this kind of artwork but can't copy them out of the FFL photos section and people have to be FFL members to peek. Veda, can you send them in the body of an e-mail post to FFL so they can be seen by everyone? I would appreciate that and I think they would be appreciated by others if they could be seen. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Anybody have an image of the Wish-yielding Tree from the brochure to look at? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: the wish-yielding tree that symbolizes the effortless ability to fulfill desires from the level of Natural Law. On the cover of a textbook for the Ideal Girls School: The cover, designed by Heather Hartnett, depicts the Kalp Vriksha, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: One lapel pin I'd like to have is the Global Country of World Peace pin, the one with the graphic of the rising sun with its Golden rays. A little bit before LB Shriver passed away he gave me his SRM lapel pin, the intricate one with the face of Guru Dev Brahmananda Saraswati embossed on it and the words “In God Consciousness Peace Energy Happiness Jai Guru Dev SRM . I wear it along with my National Network to Freedom pin on my Quaker vest lapel. I'd add the Global Country pin if I had one. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Zoar [Ohio] prospered for 80 years. A seven pointed star of Bethlehem was chosen as the emblem and the acorn from which the mighty oak grows was their symbol of strength. The emblem of the separatists, a huge star in red, white and yellow. Members wore similar emblems on their shoulders to distinguish themselves from strangers visiting the village. [The emblem was really cool and obviously had a lot of symbolism in it. I looked all around the gift shop and bookstore to try to buy one or get a picture or postcard and there was none to be had as I recently visited Zoar.] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: SHAKER TREE OF LIFE This Shaker drawing, known as the Tree of Life, is the most famous of the all Shaker gift drawings. To the Shakers, fruit-bearing trees represented the unspoiled loveliness of the Garden of Eden. It was painted at Hancock Shaker Village in 1854. This is a limited edition serigraph (silk screen print) of the original. It is framed under glass in a solid cherry wood frame. Frame is finished with hand-rubbed oil and wax. Framed size is 26 wide x 21 high. Ready to hang. Made in USA. City of Peace Monday July, 3rd 1854. I received a draft of a beautiful Tree pencil'd on a large sheet of paper bearing ripe fruit. I saw it plainly; it looked very singular and curious to me. I have since learned that this tree grows in the Spirit Land. Afterwards the spirit shew'd me plainly the branches, leaves and fruit, painted or drawn upon paper. The leaves were check'd or cross'd and the same colors you see here. I entreated Mother Ann to tell me the name of this tree: which she did Oct. 1st 4th hour P.M. by moving the hand of a medium to write twice over Your Tree is the Tree of Life. Seen and painted by, Hannah Cohoon. This Shaker drawing is known as the Tree of Life. Each Shaker spirit drawing was preceded by a heavenly vision which was transferred to paper in meticulous detail. The Tree of
[FairfieldLife] RE: Another open letter to Share
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: It's your call, Share. I'm just trying to...uh...share with you my perspective, which is that the primary reason they continue to pick on you is that you DO reply to them. Almost no one else does. Who, after all, cares what any of these people think of them or say about them? But they see you as an easy mark, in that they can say something nasty about you, and you'll reply, allowing them to say something *else* nasty as a followup, and also allowing them to pile on to each others' nastiness, and do their Mean Girls Club thang again. The fact that they're *talking to each other* and patting each other on the back for just how nasty they've managed to be today gives them the illusion that they actually have an audience for what they do here. Deprive them of this, and they'll dry up and go away. Even if they don't, you won't get slimed by interacting with them, and the rest of us will have fewer slime-posts to wade through. The whole scene IS, in a very literal way, a bunch of old women acting like Junior High School mean girls. Where's the payoff for you in becoming one of them by encouraging them to keep doing it through your participation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Â Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you. We know why they do this -- they're petty, angry pissants who can't get anyone to respond to them *except* by bullying them. But why do YOU participate, and in effect *encourage* them to do this by responding to them? Is this the only way YOU can think of to get any attention? I'm suggesting that you consider just IGNORING these pissants the way that most other people on the forum do. If you did, that would cut the overall post numbers down to less than half of what they are now, and the overall vibe and intelligence level of the forum would be better for it. Continuing to reply to them, as if it were all some kind of contest that one or more of you could possibly win makes you look as insane as they are.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another open letter to Share
Share, you do realize that Barry's motivation here isn't to offer you friendly advice, it's to use you as a means to attack his own critics, right? You can tell because of how (a) he seriously misrepresents us, and (b) he wildly exaggerates the extent to which he figures in the exchanges between you and us. He does this because he's afraid to engage with us directly, knowing he always comes off badly when he tries. It's a long-standing pattern with him to attack his critics indirectly. (Yes, in this post I'm going after him indirectly, but I and his other critics here obviously have never had a problem taking him on face to face, as it were.) These days he has a big problem because those who used to be his allies aren't participating here any longer. So he's trying to use you to take up the slack on an enemy of my enemy is my friend basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, thanks again. Why does anyone participate on FFL? Meaning, I don't think my motives and payoffs are much different than anyone else's. Anyway, I haven't read some MGC from last night. I read Doc and indiff and got the tenor of the deluge. Probably I'll wait for another set of waves! And I'll be more attentive to that whole payoff thing. On Monday, November 18, 2013 6:51 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: It's your call, Share. I'm just trying to...uh...share with you my perspective, which is that the primary reason they continue to pick on you is that you DO reply to them. Almost no one else does. Who, after all, cares what any of these people think of them or say about them? But they see you as an easy mark, in that they can say something nasty about you, and you'll reply, allowing them to say something *else* nasty as a followup, and also allowing them to pile on to each others' nastiness, and do their Mean Girls Club thang again. The fact that they're *talking to each other* and patting each other on the back for just how nasty they've managed to be today gives them the illusion that they actually have an audience for what they do here. Deprive them of this, and they'll dry up and go away. Even if they don't, you won't get slimed by interacting with them, and the rest of us will have fewer slime-posts to wade through. The whole scene IS, in a very literal way, a bunch of old women acting like Junior High School mean girls. Where's the payoff for you in becoming one of them by encouraging them to keep doing it through your participation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Â Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another open letter to Share
For the record, 'willytex' did not address Share in the Minion thread. LoL! On 11/18/2013 3:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Kennedy assassination 50 years on
Not sure if this book is going to add anything to the JFK conspiracy theories. According to what I've read, JFK was a casualty of the Cold War. It's obvious after doing research on this subject that Lee Harvey Oswald was a communist who idolized Fidel Castro and hated America. So, have either of you read any of the books that I listed? Yet opinion polls suggest that 75% of American adults believe that JFK was the victim of a conspiracy. 'JFK—Casualty of the Cold War' http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/ http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303680404579141811376490546 On 11/17/2013 8:32 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *FWIW, according to the single one-star review on Amazon, the book is a setup designed to feed Lewis softball questions and challenges from Kennedy and Huxley that Lewis can answer readily, thus presumably winning the argument. The positive reviews I read were all from apparently devout Christians.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: I see that Christian apologist (Catholic) Peter Kreeft wrote a novel in which the souls of John F. Kennedy, C. S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley meet in Purgatory and thrash out their differences as Christian theist (Lewis), humanist (Kennedy) and pantheist (Huxley). Has potential I guess. Between Heaven and Hell http://tinyurl.com/q7y4p7u ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re WTF: Please stop using profane language on a spiritual site. Re: Is there some relationship to FF, FFL or TM or the TM administration or some or any spirituality in this thread?: Yes! I linked the assassination to the deaths on the same day of C. S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley, both of whom had (divergent) approaches to spirituality. Consider this. In 1946, Huxley wrote that some characteristics of his “happier and more stable world are probably only three or four generations away”. “Nor,” he added, “ does the sexual promiscuity of Brave New World seem so very far distant. As political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase.” Huxley called it right. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: /*noozguru and S3raphity*/ WTF, is there some relationship to FF, FFL or TM or the TM administration or some or any spirituality in this thread? Lazy posting, could you please take the time to relate to the thread of FFL? It is fine to have some spiritual opinion or point of view. But what is it related to FFL? And not just post some diluting shit to this site. Almost anything goes on FFL but this has no relationship. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: noozguru and S3raphity /*noozguru and S3raphity*/ */WTF? /* /**/ Investigative reporter Russ Baker has a 10 part series on his site of selections from his book Family of Secrets about the JFK assassination. http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/09/16/part-1-mr-george-bush-of-the-central-intelligence-agency/ On 11/17/2013 02:41 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Here in the UK the BBC has produced a mass of program(me)s to mark the anniversary of Jack's death (6.30pm British time). It's also clearing three hours of its drive-time and early-evening schedule on Radio 2 on 22 November telling the story minute by minute, as if it was happening in real time, starting with the departure of the Presidential motorcade from Dallas airport shortly before midday (US time), and finishing with vice-president Lyndon B Johnson being sworn in as President three hours later. It's an intriguing coincidence that C. S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day. I wonder if the BBC will run any program(me)s marking their passing. In 1949, Huxley wrote to George Orwell, author of Nineteen Eighty-Four, predicting: Within the next generation I believe that the world's leaders will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience. What's the world like round your neck of the woods?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another open letter to Share
And, for the record, Richard J. Williams did not address Share in the 4/4- thread. Barry must have got me mixed up with someone else. Go figure. On 11/18/2013 9:07 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: For the record, 'willytex' did not address Share in the Minion thread. LoL! On 11/18/2013 3:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Another open letter to Share
Barry wrote: (snip) They -- Judy, Ann, Emily...and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down Just for the record, none of Barry's critics ever wrote an Open Message to Share headed SHUT THE FUCK UP that began: We get it that you don't care how unintelligent you come across, and that you're trying to single-handedly prove the contention of anti-TM critics that TMers are blissninnies without a brain cell in their thick skulls who will believe anything if they're told its Woo Woo enough... For Barry to write such a post and actually go on to push the Send button, and then to complain about anyone else's putdowns of the same person, is just one more demonstration of his preposterous hypocrisy. And of course Share has hardly been the only target of his vicious sadism.
[FairfieldLife] Gemini - music vid
Here is my latest - Around San Francisco Bay, and The City, set to electronic music. Gemini symbols and other numbers, buildings, sky, water, and color. ...no sacrificial virgins... The song is original, electric morning - Gemini. copyright Temple Dog. 2013 http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=Ufeature=vmvideo_id=jEkqiReOld8 http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=Ufeature=vmvideo_id=jEkqiReOld8 PS I just read that *sixteen years* of video (100 hours per minute) is uploaded to Youtube, every day.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Are there any TMers on this list?
Buck wrote: And, non-meditators.. Ha, ha, ha. They whose awareness is not open to this level of reality, what can these eternal expressions of knowledge accomplish for them? But the whose awareness is open to it -the field of pure consciousness, the home of all knowledge- are profoundly established in it. - I presume you realise Buck, that many in this world now, and in the past (Jesus, for example?) have experienced 'this level of reality'. Some of these never meditated a whit, and some used some other form of meditation. Most who meditate in the world now are not using TM, but holding that against them does not help further the goals you espouse. Seeing the world today, you need all the help you can get. Most meditators of any kind are typically at a rather rudimentary level of understanding and have simply substituted a veneer of belief about their practice on top of, or replacing whatever it was they believed in prior to learning a practice. A few lucky ones gain a deeper understanding rather quickly but for most of us it has been a long slog, so the best shot at finding meditators with some 'depth' of experience are the ones who have consistently practised the longest. TM makes certain aspects of spiritual growth easy because the technique is easy to practice, but that does not mean the spiritual path as a whole is going to be a cakewalk. And that quote above refers to the Vedas, but in the Bhagavad-Gita there is that comment about an enlightened being for whom the Vedas are like a well surrounded by water on all sides. A spiritual path is a special kind of delusion, but a delusion nonetheless; if it works, you see through it, if it does not, you remain trapped in that system of belief rather than partaking of the experience it was meant to engender. There is a crossover here too, you can be developing experience, and at the same time be delusional in understanding. A sense of exclusivity in what you know and experience is a good indicator that what you are understanding and feeling and experiencing is delusional.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another open letter to Share
Remember Share.according to Barry...And YOU caused this, Share. Take a little responsibility now, Share...smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, thanks again. Why does anyone participate on FFL? Meaning, I don't think my motives and payoffs are much different than anyone else's. Anyway, I haven't read some MGC from last night. I read Doc and indiff and got the tenor of the deluge. Probably I'll wait for another set of waves! And I'll be more attentive to that whole payoff thing. On Monday, November 18, 2013 6:51 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: It's your call, Share. I'm just trying to...uh...share with you my perspective, which is that the primary reason they continue to pick on you is that you DO reply to them. Almost no one else does. Who, after all, cares what any of these people think of them or say about them? But they see you as an easy mark, in that they can say something nasty about you, and you'll reply, allowing them to say something *else* nasty as a followup, and also allowing them to pile on to each others' nastiness, and do their Mean Girls Club thang again. The fact that they're *talking to each other* and patting each other on the back for just how nasty they've managed to be today gives them the illusion that they actually have an audience for what they do here. Deprive them of this, and they'll dry up and go away. Even if they don't, you won't get slimed by interacting with them, and the rest of us will have fewer slime-posts to wade through. The whole scene IS, in a very literal way, a bunch of old women acting like Junior High School mean girls. Where's the payoff for you in becoming one of them by encouraging them to keep doing it through your participation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Â Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you. We know why they do this -- they're petty, angry pissants who can't get anyone to respond to them *except* by bullying them. But why do YOU participate, and in effect *encourage* them to do this by responding to them? Is this the only way YOU can think of to get any attention? I'm suggesting that you consider just IGNORING these pissants the way that most other people on the forum do. If you did, that would
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Are there any TMers on this list?
The question is: what are the valid means of knowledge? It seems to me that in order to be on a spiritual path, you'd have to hold a belief in spirits. You'd have to believe that there are other entities out there, other than those we can commonly see with the senses. Most people don't see spirits very often. However, the senses aren't much help on the spiritual path. Verbal knowledge is knowledge obtained through the senses, mainly our eyes and ears. This includes scriptures and writings and hearsay - everything we've heard. Only a few people have been to outer space to see the curvature of the earth - we accept the testimony of others. Likewise, to be part of the enlightenment tradition, you'd have to believe in the goal of enlightenment to begin with, since enlightenment is not given in sense perception. Most people wouldn't even think about enlightenment if they didn't hear about or read about it in a book or scripture. However, the senses don't seem to be much help in realizing an enlightened state. So, is there a supra-sensory knowledge, that is beyond the senses, that would lead us to infer that there is a spiritual world out there? On 11/18/2013 10:57 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Buck wrote: And, non-meditators.. Ha, ha, ha. They whose awareness is not open to this level of reality, what can these eternal expressions of knowledge accomplish for them? But the whose awareness is open to it -the field of pure consciousness, the home of all knowledge- are profoundly established in it. - I presume you realise Buck, that many in this world now, and in the past (Jesus, for example?) have experienced 'this level of reality'. Some of these never meditated a whit, and some used some other form of meditation. Most who meditate in the world now are not using TM, but holding that against them does not help further the goals you espouse. Seeing the world today, you need all the help you can get. Most meditators of any kind are typically at a rather rudimentary level of understanding and have simply substituted a veneer of belief about their practice on top of, or replacing whatever it was they believed in prior to learning a practice. A few lucky ones gain a deeper understanding rather quickly but for most of us it has been a long slog, so the best shot at finding meditators with some 'depth' of experience are the ones who have consistently practised the longest. TM makes certain aspects of spiritual growth easy because the technique is easy to practice, but that does not mean the spiritual path as a whole is going to be a cakewalk. And that quote above refers to the Vedas, but in the Bhagavad-Gita there is that comment about an enlightened being for whom the Vedas are like a well surrounded by water on all sides. A spiritual path is a special kind of delusion, but a delusion nonetheless; if it works, you see through it, if it does not, you remain trapped in that system of belief rather than partaking of the experience it was meant to engender. There is a crossover here too, you can be developing experience, and at the same time be delusional in understanding. A sense of exclusivity in what you know and experience is a good indicator that what you are understanding and feeling and experiencing is delusional.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I Did Today
This morning I went to this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: On the way home from the store I visited this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: There;s a rock and roll running marathon here today and there having a Formula Grand Prix race up in Austin. But, I went to this place today: [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Today I went by this place. What are those people all lined up for, waiting for days? [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Later today I drove past this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.netwrote: There's an app for this: https://twitter.com/ I'm sure everyone on FFL will sign up for your tweets. On 11/15/2013 12:07 PM, Richard Williams wrote: Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I had to go here:: [image: Inline image 1]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another open letter to Share
Wow! It didn't take long for this thread to go out on the tubes. Good work! So, Share has her own own thread - now Emily, Judy, and Ann can send all their messages about Share to the Share thread. Thanks, Barry - now it's all about Share and she gets her fifteen minutes of fame. LoL! On 11/18/2013 5:42 AM, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you. We know why they do this -- they're petty, angry pissants who can't get anyone to respond to them *except* by bullying them. But why do YOU participate, and in effect *encourage* them to do this by responding to them? Is this the only way YOU can think of to get any attention? I'm suggesting that you consider just IGNORING these pissants the way that most other people on the forum do. If you did, that would cut the overall post numbers down to less than half of what they are now, and the overall vibe and intelligence level of the forum would be better for it. Continuing to reply to them, as if it were all some kind of contest that one or more of you could possibly win makes you look as insane as they are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another open letter to Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Barry wrote: (snip) They -- Judy, Ann, Emily...and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down Just for the record, none of Barry's critics ever wrote an Open Message to Share headed SHUT THE FUCK UP ... Possibly. But SINCE I made that post, hoping to shock and appeal to the only one among the four women polluting the forum with their petty jealousies and grudges who I thought was sane enough *to* appeal to, let's see who has posted to or referenced Share in posts since. First, I give you turquoiseb, the person whom the main Mean Girl is trying to cast as the Bad Guy in this scenario: Barry -- 75 posts Next, I give you the Mean Girls: Judy -- 444 posts Ann -- 237 posts Emily -- 170 posts I leave it to the lurkers -- who have had to be unwilling parties to this pettiness -- to guess how many of the latter three women's posts were positive, and supportive of another woman. The *trend* is clear, and that's what they're trying to distract from by trying to shift the focus to me. They *harass* Share, individually and en masse, and they obviously *get off* by doing it. I don't think that any of the three of them can be appealed to. None seems to be self-aware or sane enough to realize the *extent* of their obsession with Share, and how it's taken over their lives (and as a result, sadly, the life of this forum). But I'm still hoping that Share can realize how much she is *contributing* to this harassment by replying to it, and thus perpetuating it. The Mean Girls are a lost cause; I am still hopeful enough to think that Share is not.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another open letter to Share
You got to the office really early today. Good work! On 11/18/2013 9:06 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, you do realize that Barry's motivation here isn't to offer you friendly advice, it's to use you as a means to attack his own critics, right? You can tell because of how (a) he seriously misrepresents us, and (b) he wildly exaggerates the extent to which he figures in the exchanges between you and us. He does this because he's afraid to engage with us directly, knowing he always comes off badly when he tries. It's a long-standing pattern with him to attack his critics indirectly. (Yes, in this post I'm going after him indirectly, but I and his other critics here obviously have never had a problem taking him on face to face, as it were.) These days he has a big problem because those who used to be his allies aren't participating here any longer. So he's trying to use you to take up the slack on an enemy of my enemy is my friend basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, thanks again. Why does anyone participate on FFL? Meaning, I don't think my motives and payoffs are much different than anyone else's. Anyway, I haven't read some MGC from last night. I read Doc and indiff and got the tenor of the deluge. Probably I'll wait for another set of waves! And I'll be more attentive to that whole payoff thing. On Monday, November 18, 2013 6:51 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: It's your call, Share. I'm just trying to...uh...share with you my perspective, which is that the primary reason they continue to pick on you is that you DO reply to them. Almost no one else does. Who, after all, cares what any of these people think of them or say about them? But they see you as an easy mark, in that they can say something nasty about you, and you'll reply, allowing them to say something *else* nasty as a followup, and also allowing them to pile on to each others' nastiness, and do their Mean Girls Club thang again. The fact that they're *talking to each other* and patting each other on the back for just how nasty they've managed to be today gives them the illusion that they actually have an audience for what they do here. Deprive them of this, and they'll dry up and go away. Even if they don't, you won't get slimed by interacting with them, and the rest of us will have fewer slime-posts to wade through. The whole scene IS, in a very literal way, a bunch of old women acting like Junior High School mean girls. Where's the payoff for you in becoming one of them by encouraging them to keep doing it through your participation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Â Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Another open letter to Share
A, Turkey, you're just upset because it wasn't all about *YOU*. There is always a bigger picture; you just can't see beyond your limited and elementary-level perspective, because you are an emotional toddler. Passing everything through that filter like you do prevents you from seeing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Barry wrote: (snip) They -- Judy, Ann, Emily...and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down Just for the record, none of Barry's critics ever wrote an Open Message to Share headed SHUT THE FUCK UP ... Possibly. But SINCE I made that post, hoping to shock and appeal to the only one among the four women polluting the forum with their petty jealousies and grudges who I thought was sane enough *to* appeal to, let's see who has posted to or referenced Share in posts since. First, I give you turquoiseb, the person whom the main Mean Girl is trying to cast as the Bad Guy in this scenario: Barry -- 75 posts Next, I give you the Mean Girls: Judy -- 444 posts Ann -- 237 posts Emily -- 170 posts I leave it to the lurkers -- who have had to be unwilling parties to this pettiness -- to guess how many of the latter three women's posts were positive, and supportive of another woman. The *trend* is clear, and that's what they're trying to distract from by trying to shift the focus to me. They *harass* Share, individually and en masse, and they obviously *get off* by doing it. I don't think that any of the three of them can be appealed to. None seems to be self-aware or sane enough to realize the *extent* of their obsession with Share, and how it's taken over their lives (and as a result, sadly, the life of this forum). But I'm still hoping that Share can realize how much she is *contributing* to this harassment by replying to it, and thus perpetuating it. The Mean Girls are a lost cause; I am still hopeful enough to think that Share is not.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Another open letter to Share
Not only is Barry's math the new math and deeply suspect as always but his one supporter here at FFL seems to be Share who is happy to be forgiven for being so inconsiderate and stupid (according to Barry) for continually engaging with a bunch of riff raff (Barry's critics and therefore insane people) who have nothing better to do than make Share's life miserable. He claims the only way us pissants can get anyone to respond to us is to bully them yet he claims no one except Share responds to us so what is the problem? Barry's tongue is in the shape of a fork and his advice is more like vice. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: A, Turkey, you're just upset because it wasn't all about *YOU*. There is always a bigger picture; you just can't see beyond your limited and elementary-level perspective, because you are an emotional toddler. Passing everything through that filter like you do prevents you from seeing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Barry wrote: (snip) They -- Judy, Ann, Emily...and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down Just for the record, none of Barry's critics ever wrote an Open Message to Share headed SHUT THE FUCK UP ... Possibly. But SINCE I made that post, hoping to shock and appeal to the only one among the four women polluting the forum with their petty jealousies and grudges who I thought was sane enough *to* appeal to, let's see who has posted to or referenced Share in posts since. First, I give you turquoiseb, the person whom the main Mean Girl is trying to cast as the Bad Guy in this scenario: Barry -- 75 posts Next, I give you the Mean Girls: Judy -- 444 posts Ann -- 237 posts Emily -- 170 posts I leave it to the lurkers -- who have had to be unwilling parties to this pettiness -- to guess how many of the latter three women's posts were positive, and supportive of another woman. The *trend* is clear, and that's what they're trying to distract from by trying to shift the focus to me. They *harass* Share, individually and en masse, and they obviously *get off* by doing it. I don't think that any of the three of them can be appealed to. None seems to be self-aware or sane enough to realize the *extent* of their obsession with Share, and how it's taken over their lives (and as a result, sadly, the life of this forum). But I'm still hoping that Share can realize how much she is *contributing* to this harassment by replying to it, and thus perpetuating it. The Mean Girls are a lost cause; I am still hopeful enough to think that Share is not.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Another open letter to Share
Barry wrote: Barry wrote: (snip) They -- Judy, Ann, Emily...and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down Just for the record, none of Barry's critics ever wrote an Open Message to Share headed SHUT THE FUCK UP ... Possibly. No, toots, not possibly. In incontrovertible fact. But SINCE I made that post, hoping to shock and appeal to the only one among the four women polluting the forum with their petty jealousies and grudges who I thought was sane enough *to* appeal to, No, toots, this is bullshit and you know it. You felt like demeaning and putting down all four of us, because you don't like women, especially women who dare to criticize you. You attacked Share directly because you figured--and rightly so--that she wouldn't have the guts to come back at you. That's your cowardly M.O.-- go after the woman least able to defend herself. And of course the rest of us tried to make Share see what you were doing and why, tried to get her to stiffen her spine and not retreat into her faux-sainthood pose. let's see who has posted to or referenced Share in posts since. No, toots, this is also bullshit. We've seen far too many of your thoroughly bogus post tallies. That tactic is way past its sell-by date. First, I give you turquoiseb, the person whom the main Mean Girl is trying to cast as the Bad Guy in this scenario: You, Barry, have cast yourself as the Bad Guy on FFL generally. Remember what my point was: your posts are typically viciously sadistic and have been for many, many years. For you to criticize anybody else's posts for being mean is THE MOST EGREGIOUS HYPOCRISY. (snip) The *trend* is clear, and that's what they're trying to distract from by trying to shift the focus to me. They *harass* Share, individually and en masse, and they obviously *get off* by doing it. Here's the point, again: Until you clean up your own despicable behavior, you need to shut your foul pie-hole (as Richard would say) about anybody else's behavior. What we say to Share doesn't come anywhere near the hateful malice (and lies) of your output here. And it's not just that you get off on it--you go to some trouble, in fact, to make your enjoyment obvious--it's that you can't live without it. If you couldn't be viciously mean to other people, your sick, pretentious ego would explode from its own poisonous fumes and collapse like a burst balloon.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Another open letter to Share
Barry wrote: Barry wrote: (snip) They -- Judy, Ann, Emily...and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down Just for the record, none of Barry's critics ever wrote an Open Message to Share headed SHUT THE FUCK UP ... Possibly. No, toots, not possibly. In incontrovertible fact. But SINCE I made that post, hoping to shock and appeal to the only one among the four women polluting the forum with their petty jealousies and grudges who I thought was sane enough *to* appeal to, No, toots, this is bullshit and you know it. You felt like demeaning and putting down all four of us, because you don't like women, especially women who dare to criticize you. You attacked Share directly because you figured--and rightly so--that she wouldn't have the guts to come back at you. That's your cowardly M.O.-- go after the woman least able to defend herself. And of course the rest of us tried to make Share see what you were doing and why, tried to get her to stiffen her spine and not retreat into her faux-sainthood pose. let's see who has posted to or referenced Share in posts since. No, toots, this is also bullshit. We've seen far too many of your thoroughly bogus post tallies. That tactic is way past its sell-by date. First, I give you turquoiseb, the person whom the main Mean Girl is trying to cast as the Bad Guy in this scenario: You, Barry, have cast yourself as the Bad Guy on FFL generally. Remember what my point was: your posts are typically viciously sadistic and have been for many, many years. For you to criticize anybody else's posts for being mean is THE MOST EGREGIOUS HYPOCRISY. (snip) The *trend* is clear, and that's what they're trying to distract from by trying to shift the focus to me. They *harass* Share, individually and en masse, and they obviously *get off* by doing it. Here's the point, again: Until you clean up your own despicable behavior, you need to shut your foul pie-hole (as Richard would say) about anybody else's behavior. What we say to Share doesn't come anywhere near the hateful malice (and lies) of your output here. And it's not just that you get off on it--you go to some trouble, in fact, to make your enjoyment obvious--it's that you can't live without it. If you couldn't be viciously mean to other people, your sick, pretentious ego would explode from its own poisonous fumes and collapse like a burst balloon.
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RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another open letter to Share
The problem is that Barry deliberately misrepresented what went on in the exchanges yesterday; anyone who followed them knows that. Share knows it, of course, but she just swallows it right up, licks her lips, rubs her tummy, and goes on to exalt her own budding faux-sainthood instead of dealing with the reality. Such total phonies, the both of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Remember Share.according to Barry...And YOU caused this, Share. Take a little responsibility now, Share...smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, thanks again. Why does anyone participate on FFL? Meaning, I don't think my motives and payoffs are much different than anyone else's. Anyway, I haven't read some MGC from last night. I read Doc and indiff and got the tenor of the deluge. Probably I'll wait for another set of waves! And I'll be more attentive to that whole payoff thing. On Monday, November 18, 2013 6:51 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: It's your call, Share. I'm just trying to...uh...share with you my perspective, which is that the primary reason they continue to pick on you is that you DO reply to them. Almost no one else does. Who, after all, cares what any of these people think of them or say about them? But they see you as an easy mark, in that they can say something nasty about you, and you'll reply, allowing them to say something *else* nasty as a followup, and also allowing them to pile on to each others' nastiness, and do their Mean Girls Club thang again. The fact that they're *talking to each other* and patting each other on the back for just how nasty they've managed to be today gives them the illusion that they actually have an audience for what they do here. Deprive them of this, and they'll dry up and go away. Even if they don't, you won't get slimed by interacting with them, and the rest of us will have fewer slime-posts to wade through. The whole scene IS, in a very literal way, a bunch of old women acting like Junior High School mean girls. Where's the payoff for you in becoming one of them by encouraging them to keep doing it through your participation? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Thanks, turq. For a while now I've had the intention to write only 6 or 7 posts per day. But then I get caught up in the moment and before I know it, I'm averaging more than that. Caught up in the moment because there's some great topics being discussed. And sometimes like yesterday I'm enjoying my exchanges with Judy. I also definitely enjoy teasing Richard now and then because imo he's a good sport and often makes me laugh. As for exchanging posts with the MGC, again I just go by how I feel in the moment. I do notice that it tends to be wavy, meaning that I'll exchange a lot with them and then not so much. I simply ride those waves like a surfer, trusting the ocean to take good care of us all. Just to extend the metaphor! Recently there was a day on FFL which I thoroughly enjoyed. Lots of great topics. People mostly being positive. But still some vigorous disagreements, and yet nothing nasty or attacking in a personal way. I do my best to contribute to that, as I think we all do. But FFL, like everywhere else on earth, is a kind of school, a place for learning how to become more fully human. In this moment, for helping me with that, I'm grateful to you all. On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:18 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Â Share, this is a kinder, gentler version of my STFU post from a while back. But it's essentially trying to say the same thing, to see if you are smart enough or considerate enough to get it this time. In my 4 / 40 post, I wrote a bunch of cafe-fluff, just for fun. You replied in the same vein, and we exchanged a few pleasant posts about non-consequential stuff in a friendly manner. Then the Mean Girls hit the fan. They piled on, attacking you for finding anything I said interesting or funny, and for not holding an eternal grudge against me, as they do and as they clearly feel you should be doing. They -- Judy, Ann, Emily, Willytex, and Ravi -- then did everything they could possibly think of to demean you and put you down for daring to have pleasant conversations with one of their hate-objects. What followed were at least 40 posts on at least three threads, ALL of them of the Get Share / Share defending herself variety. Other people on Fairfield Life were forced to wade through this knee-deep pile of ego-shit to get to anything that they might have found more interesting. And YOU caused this, Share. THAT was my message in my original STFU post to you, and it still is. The Mean Girls may be the ones piling on and trying to get you, but you are FACILITATING and PROLONGING their petty bullshit by responding to each post attacking you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for metal fillings and bulk crystals for emf clearing device
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Toby Walker wrote: Looking for metal fillings and bulk crystals for emf clearing device Please email me at tobywaka@... Wow. Best de-lurk ever. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kennedy assassination 50 years on
One of the first films made about the JFK assassination is Executive Action which was written by Dalton Trumbo and stars Burt Lancaster, Robert Ryan and Will Geer. I saw it in a theater and later the film was pulled from distribution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbF5him-EF8 On 11/17/2013 02:41 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Here in the UK the BBC has produced a mass of program(me)s to mark the anniversary of Jack's death (6.30pm British time). It's also clearing three hours of its drive-time and early-evening schedule on Radio 2 on 22 November telling the story minute by minute, as if it was happening in real time, starting with the departure of the Presidential motorcade from Dallas airport shortly before midday (US time), and finishing with vice-president Lyndon B Johnson being sworn in as President three hours later. It's an intriguing coincidence that C. S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley died on the same day. I wonder if the BBC will run any program(me)s marking their passing. In 1949, Huxley wrote to George Orwell, author of Nineteen Eighty-Four, predicting: Within the next generation I believe that the world's leaders will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience. What's the world like round your neck of the woods?
[FairfieldLife] Ah, compassion
[walmart] This is a sign at a Walmart. They are benevolently sponsoring a canned food drive so that its underpaid employees can enjoy Thanksgiving. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/11/18/2960371/walmart-food-drive/ http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/11/18/2960371/walmart-food-drive/\ It reminds me of the TMO fund-raising campaign to buy coats for the poor pundits, who were trying to cope with their first Iowa Winter. The organizations sponsoring the drives are worth billions, but it's the peons within the organizations who are expected to take care of taking care of each other.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Are there any TMers on this list?
Richard, when you say the senses aren't much help, etc. that doesn't at all sound right to me. Are you saying you think they are an impediment? Neutral? On Monday, November 18, 2013 11:58 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The question is: what are the valid means of knowledge? It seems to me that in order to be on a spiritual path, you'd have to hold a belief in spirits. You'd have to believe that there are other entities out there, other than those we can commonly see with the senses. Most people don't see spirits very often. However, the senses aren't much help on the spiritual path. Verbal knowledge is knowledge obtained through the senses, mainly our eyes and ears. This includes scriptures and writings and hearsay - everything we've heard. Only a few people have been to outer space to see the curvature of the earth - we accept the testimony of others. Likewise, to be part of the enlightenment tradition, you'd have to believe in the goal of enlightenment to begin with, since enlightenment is not given in sense perception. Most people wouldn't even think about enlightenment if they didn't hear about or read about it in a book or scripture. However, the senses don't seem to be much help in realizing an enlightened state. So, is there a supra-sensory knowledge, that is beyond the senses, that would lead us to infer that there is a spiritual world out there? On 11/18/2013 10:57 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Buck wrote: And, non-meditators.. Ha, ha, ha. They whose awareness is not open to this level of reality, what can these eternal expressions of knowledge accomplish for them? But the whose awareness is open to it -the field of pure consciousness, the home of all knowledge- are profoundly established in it. - I presume you realise Buck, that many in this world now, and in the past (Jesus, for example?) have experienced 'this level of reality'. Some of these never meditated a whit, and some used some other form of meditation. Most who meditate in the world now are not using TM, but holding that against them does not help further the goals you espouse. Seeing the world today, you need all the help you can get. Most meditators of any kind are typically at a rather rudimentary level of understanding and have simply substituted a veneer of belief about their practice on top of, or replacing whatever it was they believed in prior to learning a practice. A few lucky ones gain a deeper understanding rather quickly but for most of us it has been a long slog, so the best shot at finding meditators with some 'depth' of experience are the ones who have consistently practised the longest. TM makes certain aspects of spiritual growth easy because the technique is easy to practice, but that does not mean the spiritual path as a whole is going to be a cakewalk. And that quote above refers to the Vedas, but in the Bhagavad-Gita there is that comment about an enlightened being for whom the Vedas are like a well surrounded by water on all sides. A spiritual path is a special kind of delusion, but a delusion nonetheless; if it works, you see through it, if it does not, you remain trapped in that system of belief rather than partaking of the experience it was meant to engender. There is a crossover here too, you can be developing experience, and at the same time be delusional in understanding. A sense of exclusivity in what you know and experience is a good indicator that what you are understanding and feeling and experiencing is delusional.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Yaqui Vastu
That last paragraph is beautiful, Richard. But it does seem to be about the senses! Anyway, yes, I was wondering about the cement used to hold the stones together. Any stress involved in creating that? On Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:27 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: What you have to do is select a site that has most of the needed elements already at hand. That way, you don't have to dig into the earth very much - you just pick the ideal stones and carry them to the site. Ideally it should be no more than 10,000 feet to transport the stones. There should be a minimum of shaping the stones, they should be selected based on the positioning of the stones. Remember, it's all about positioning and placement. The tricky part is to try not to disturb nature any more than you have to. According to Yaqui Vastu, you should employ the minimum exertion in order to obtain a maximum benefit. Now, for the cedar posts: you should select a site that has an abundance of cedar trees. Keep in mind that only certain branches of the tree will be used, so as to minimize stress during the pruning process. The really tricky part of the Yaqui Vastu is the cement or the plaster used to hold things together. More on this later. As for sustainability, here is an example of a Yaqui Vastu structure from circa 1760: San Jose Mission, San Antonio, Texas Note on edifice architecture: In the traditional Indian view, a building, if it is properly conceived, satisfies both a physical and metaphysical indigence. It has a twofold function: it provides 'commodity, firmness, and delight' so as to serve man's psychosomatic, emotional and aesthetic needs, and also supra-empirical principles. In this view an adequately designed building will embody meaning. It will express the manner in which the phenomenal world relates to the Real and how the One 'fragments' into multiplicity; it will carry intimations of the non-duality (adwaita) of the sensible and the supra-sensible domains. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, I love that Yaqui Vastu principle of building with non stressed materials. But I have to wonder how sustainable that is. I mean, are there enough stones lying around? I wonder if straw bales would be acceptable. And before, you had mentioned cedar. But wouldn't cedar have to be transported? I admit the principle is wonderful but it seems extreme measures would be needed to realize it. What do you think? On Friday, November 15, 2013 9:29 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The Sanskrit word 'vastu' means a dwelling or house with a corresponding plot of land. The word pertains to construction. Vastu is based in five elements: earth, air, fire, water, and space, all interrelated. Yaqui Vastu involves the awareness of how the ways of construction, orientation, and placement affect our environment and thus our own daily activities and relations. Wall detail, Mission San José y San Miguel de Aguayo: http://www.nps.gov/saan/planyourvisit/sanjose.htm Following up on the Yaqui Vastu principle of 'non-stressing', we should make a note on the nature of the materials vis a vis the stress factor. It should be obvious that the ideal material for a Yaqui Vastu dwelling would be natural stone. Not stressed stone made by quarry or dressing, but found stones that lay on top of the land. These stones would ideally be found locally (within 10,000 feet of the building site) so as to avoid the stress of transportation whether by truck or rail. Yaqui Vastu can be defined as The skillful use of the best available materials and knowledge in order to create the most suitable conditions for living and working. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, If those houses are not facing east or north, they may not be good for the residents according to MMY's principles of vastu. It's also a good idea to have an atrium in the middle of the house. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: By 6,000 B.C.E. the art of geomacy resulted in the megalith and mound culture of Europe and South India. By 4,000 B.C.E. we see communities emerge, of which the Indus Valley Civilization, with it's planned city streets, being a prime example. In the Fertile Crescent the city states of Mesopotamia arose. Example of Yaqui Vastu House in San Antonio: Spanish style house at Brenda Gallery: Spanish Style House: The Spanish Colonial Revival Style is a United States architectural stylistic movement arising in the early 20th century based on the Spanish Colonial architecture of the Spanish colonization of the Americas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Colonial_Revival_architecture On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, I really like feng shui and knew that it meant wind and water.
[FairfieldLife] The official Captain Bebops Trailer
YouTube has been bugging me to upload a trailer to introduce my channel so I did and here it is: http://youtu.be/8h_bNkk9BBI
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gemini - music vid
Your link is for your edit page so in my case it just took me to my edit page. Your link should be this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEkqiReOld8 On 11/18/2013 08:09 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Here is my latest - Around San Francisco Bay, and The City, set to electronic music. Gemini symbols and other numbers, buildings, sky, water, and color. ...no sacrificial virgins... The song is original, electric morning - Gemini. copyright Temple Dog. 2013 http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=Ufeature=vmvideo_id=jEkqiReOld8 PS I just read that *sixteen years* of video (100 hours per minute) is uploaded to Youtube, every day.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The official Captain Bebops Trailer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: YouTube has been bugging me to upload a trailer to introduce my channel so I did and here it is: http://youtu.be/8h_bNkk9BBI http://youtu.be/8h_bNkk9BBI Cool. You look good with your sax. Careful that you don't stray over into portraying yourself with a violin, however, or Emily Latella will be all over your ass complaining about all the sax and violins on the Internet. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Google to censor searches
Google has promised a worldwide block on search results linked to child abuse. In an about turn the media firm has agreed to make changes which will prevent illegal child pornography appearing for more than 100,000 different searches. The restrictions will be launched in the UK first, before being expanded to other English-speaking countries and 158 other languages in the next six months. I can't see this having much effect as paedophiles probably don't use Google (or Microsoft, which is following suit). And if you can block porn images why wouldn't you (for example) block footage of hostages being beheaded?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The official Captain Bebops Trailer
The hard thing was trying to figure if my orchestra piece was plagiarizing on perhaps another movie them. But I went through a lot of different action and sci-fi themes and none were even close. Reminded me of the time that I wrote a logo piece and folks thought I had plagiarized another logo piece. The only similarity? Both used french horns. :-D But what pisses me off is that a few years ago you could put your piece up on a what's that tune site and see if it was similar to something else. Yes, those sites still exist but I think what happened is the ones that were primarily there to look for any plagiarism got in trouble by probably having unlicensed music in their database to compare against. So what you find today is comparisons to licensed music where they can sell you the music it is similar to. This is how ridiculous our copyright laws have become. On 11/18/2013 12:35 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: YouTube has been bugging me to upload a trailer to introduce my channel so I did and here it is: http://youtu.be/8h_bNkk9BBI Cool. You look good with your sax. Careful that you don't stray over into portraying yourself with a violin, however, or Emily Latella will be all over your ass complaining about all the sax and violins on the Internet. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Derren Brown: awesome display
Mind-control magician and skeptic Derren Brown takes his debunking mission to America to show just how easy it is to dupe people into believing impossible things before breakfast. He tried to convince five leading figures that he had powers in their particular field of expertise: Christian evangelism, alien abduction, psychic powers, New Age theories and contacting the dead. The whole 50 minutes is a hoot but if you only take a peek check out the segment from 13:11 where he demonstrates his power to convert atheists with a touch. Derren is a friend and admirer of Richard Dawkins - I'd love to see him do this to the Great Atheist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM
[FairfieldLife] RE: Derren Brown: awesome display
The video ain't available in the U.S., sadly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Mind-control magician and skeptic Derren Brown takes his debunking mission to America to show just how easy it is to dupe people into believing impossible things before breakfast. He tried to convince five leading figures that he had powers in their particular field of expertise: Christian evangelism, alien abduction, psychic powers, New Age theories and contacting the dead. The whole 50 minutes is a hoot but if you only take a peek check out the segment from 13:11 where he demonstrates his power to convert atheists with a touch. Derren is a friend and admirer of Richard Dawkins - I'd love to see him do this to the Great Atheist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM
[FairfieldLife] RE: The quot;officialquot; Captain Bebops Trailer
I just watched your Downtown Girls video. That was very cool. It reminded me of an artist many years ago who released a video with the a similar motif (black suit and tie with beautiful girls in the background). Perhaps, you can sell your song to a current singing artist for a share of the gross revenues. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: YouTube has been bugging me to upload a trailer to introduce my channel so I did and here it is: http://youtu.be/8h_bNkk9BBI http://youtu.be/8h_bNkk9BBI
[FairfieldLife] RE: Derren Brown: awesome display
Does this site work for you? http://vimeo.com/46045821 http://vimeo.com/46045821 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: The video ain't available in the U.S., sadly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Mind-control magician and skeptic Derren Brown takes his debunking mission to America to show just how easy it is to dupe people into believing impossible things before breakfast. He tried to convince five leading figures that he had powers in their particular field of expertise: Christian evangelism, alien abduction, psychic powers, New Age theories and contacting the dead. The whole 50 minutes is a hoot but if you only take a peek check out the segment from 13:11 where he demonstrates his power to convert atheists with a touch. Derren is a friend and admirer of Richard Dawkins - I'd love to see him do this to the Great Atheist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM
[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Do the Higher Dimensions Exist?
The concepts that have been presented here are similar to the idea that everything physical in the universe is based on consciousness, which MMY discusses in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q85jKBuMURQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q85jKBuMURQ ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The Bigot Bill Boy's Sutras on Mysticism? Hilarious empty baby - your emotionally,psychologically retarded self can't stop frothing huh ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: mys·ti·cism (m¹s“t¹-s¹z”…m) n. 1.a. Immediate consciousness of the transcendent or ultimate reality or God. b. The experience of such communion as described by mystics. 2. A belief in the existence of realities beyond perceptual or intellectual apprehension that are central to being and directly accessible by subjective experience. 3. Vague, groundless speculation. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, I tend to agree with what Laski stated. On the second approach that you mentioned, I find it hard to conceive of mysticism without reference to the absolute. In this video clip, Deepak Chopra attempts to explain his own mysticism in terms of quantum physics and consciousness without mentioning the absolute. http://www.youtube.com/ http://www.youtube.com/ ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: There are two main modern approaches to the study of mysticism. One is to say that ALL mystical experience is pathological. Another approach, popular with progressive psyhcologists and writers such as Maslow and Wilber, is that mysticism can be explained without reference to an absolute. In her remarkable study entitled 'Ecstasy', Marghanita Laski rejects all attempts to label the mystic experience pathological. I do not believe that any explanations of these experiences can be satisfactory if they suggest that ecstasies are only this or only that - only a phenomenon of repressed sexuality or only a concomitant of some or other morbid condition. Certainly convictions are an insufficient substitute for evidence, but both people's convictions of the value of these experiences and their subsequent influence on outlook and language persuade me that these are of some evidential value in justifying the conclusion that ecstatic experiences must be treated as important outside religious contexts, as having important effects on people's mental and physical well-being, on their aesthetic preferences, their creativity, their beliefs and philosophies, and on their conduct. Works Cited: 'Ecstasy: A Study of Some Secular and Religious Experiencies' By Marghanita Laski Cresset, 1965 p. 373 On 11/16/2013 3:58 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Scientists have been on a quest to find these higher dimensions that are above the usual space and time. They are conjecturing that these higher dimensions are curled up within space itself. But, IMO, they lie within the human being who has a fully developed brain--in the person who has reached enlightenment. IOW, the higher dimensions pertain to the various states of consciousness which the scientists have not included or recognized in their mathematical calculations, such as the quantum string theory. As MMY stated, for those individuals, heaven has manifested here on earth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7zQvSVzJ0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7zQvSVzJ0
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Are there any TMers on this list?
This was an interesting, thoughtful set of comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: The question is: what are the valid means of knowledge? This is a more difficult question to sort out. We have minds that think, and we have sensory experience and the two are locked together. I sometimes watch the squirrels outside collecting acorns. They seem to find them, bury them, and re-find them without much difficulty in what seems like a mass of undifferentiated leaves, branches and soil. Are they experiencing some kind of valid knowledge? It seems to me that in order to be on a spiritual path, you'd have to hold a belief in spirits. You'd have to believe that there are other entities out there, other than those we can commonly see with the senses. Most people don't see spirits very often. I disagree, but this is one possibility. I think you have to have a sense, or a more delineated belief that there is a dimension to life that is beyond what you are experiencing, but it doesn't necessarily have to be spirits or even just spirit as a general category. A spirit, a ghost, something ethereal or incorporeal may not be necessary, just that there is something more to life, even if the idea that there is something more to life turns out to be false. Some spiritual traditions seem to hold that exactly what we are experiencing at any moment is the totality of what we can know - the here and now - and that anything beyond this is delusion, and the reason we are deluded is just because we think there is something more. However, the senses aren't much help on the spiritual path. Without the senses there would be no spiritual path or any experience except pure being, which is not very self reflective. The senses are there providing the experience of direction, expansion, contraction. Mantra meditations, including TM, begin with the experience of sound, converted to thought. The raw experience of the world is sensory experience. A lot of this is filtered down by the nervous system before it becomes conscious experience, but basically the raw character of experience is sensory. The mind is a different matter. It, via thought and conceptualisation provides commentary, a description of the raw experience so it is a secondary kind of experience. Verbal knowledge is knowledge obtained through the senses, mainly our eyes and ears. This includes scriptures and writings and hearsay - everything we've heard. Only a few people have been to outer space to see the curvature of the earth - we accept the testimony of others. You can see the curvature of the Earth from aeroplanes or even from high ground overlooking the ocean. You probably could not tell it was spherical this way. But you can look at the shadow of the Earth on the Moon, and get a bit more information. Also the Sun and Moon look circular and one might infer they are spherical. You are certainly right that the vast proportion of our verbal knowledge is second hand, though some of this is verified through experience. Particularly in relation to science, technology, industry, and trades, this second-hand information works out to be eminently practical. In spiritual circles this second-hand information does not always work out so well. Likewise, to be part of the enlightenment tradition, you'd have to believe in the goal of enlightenment to begin with, since enlightenment is not given in sense perception. Most people wouldn't even think about enlightenment if they didn't hear about or read about it in a book or scripture. Yes, you have to have the thought that enlightenment exists, that there is a way to experience it, and that it is possible for you to partake of that. However, the senses don't seem to be much help in realizing an enlightened state. I do not see why not. The mind's tendency to override raw experience - it's conceptualisation of experience taking the primary stage in what is regarded as true rather than the raw experience itself - is the major source of the delusion called ignorance. Emotions are involved too, as they tend to be locked in step with thoughts. The emotions anchor delusional thinking, making it harder to dislodge. However the raw experience itself just flows in via the senses; it is what is made of that after the fact that causes all the problems. So, is there a supra-sensory knowledge, that is beyond the senses, that would lead us to infer that there is a spiritual world out there? I don't know. For me the world that flows in through the senses is the spiritual world. It is absolutely necessary for unity. If there is something 'beyond' that, how are we supposed to experience it, since it seems unconnected to all our other kinds of experience: sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, and thoughts about the same? There are dreams, but if we have some experience while waking that seems to have the character of a dream, maybe it is just a dream.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The quot;officialquot; Captain Bebops Trailer
Thanks. Music placement is somewhat complicated. For one thing you would probably want to have a publishing company that can take care of the business stuff including mechanicals, etc. Then there are a gazillion other folks waving their songs at the artist too. So its all a game of chance. If they stumble on your music such as on YouTube and want to record then it might be a little easier as you can license to their publishing company. But because it's easy money you have to be very business wise about it. On 11/18/2013 01:26 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: I just watched your Downtown Girls video. That was very cool. It reminded me of an artist many years ago who released a video with the a similar motif (black suit and tie with beautiful girls in the background). Perhaps, you can sell your song to a current singing artist for a share of the gross revenues. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: YouTube has been bugging me to upload a trailer to introduce my channel so I did and here it is: http://youtu.be/8h_bNkk9BBI
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Derren Brown: awesome display
Yes, thank you. I've actually seen this segment before--someone posted it here a few years ago and we had a bit of discussion about it (the thread begins with #161279 if you want to have a look). Seeing it again, I find I've changed my mind somewhat about what's going on. I think he may, in fact, have a gift, but he doesn't know it; and it may not be a benign gift. He may--sometimes, not necessarily always--be getting some help from sources that he's not aware of because he's so focused on, and has such confidence in, his various tricks and techniques. As a confirmed skeptic, would he even recognize it if he were getting genuine little nudges from the Beyond? In any case, I do still think (as I said in the earlier discussion) that he's crpy. What I'd like to see would be what would happen if one of his subjects just flatly resisted him (even if he was telling them stuff about themselves that was true). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Does this site work for you? http://vimeo.com/46045821 http://vimeo.com/46045821 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: The video ain't available in the U.S., sadly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Mind-control magician and skeptic Derren Brown takes his debunking mission to America to show just how easy it is to dupe people into believing impossible things before breakfast. He tried to convince five leading figures that he had powers in their particular field of expertise: Christian evangelism, alien abduction, psychic powers, New Age theories and contacting the dead. The whole 50 minutes is a hoot but if you only take a peek check out the segment from 13:11 where he demonstrates his power to convert atheists with a touch. Derren is a friend and admirer of Richard Dawkins - I'd love to see him do this to the Great Atheist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Are there any TMers on this list?
You are crazy as a loon Bucky - just because I was initiated into TM now 39
years ago does NOT mean I am a TM'er - no way.
On Mon, 11/18/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Are there any TMers on this list?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 18, 2013, 1:17 AM
You asked about transcendental
meditating {?}
transcendental meditation:
“Richa is situated in Akshara:
knowledge is
structured in consciousness, the nonchanging transcendental
basis of
all relative existence, in which reside the impulses of
creative
intelligence responsible for the whole manifest
universe.
Well, of course there are a few of
us here. Once initiated as a transcending
meditation TMer then always a TMer. There's no going
back. Then,
practically there are meditators who are practitioners, the
irregulars or fallen away, and those meditators who are
quitters.
Now, one might not be actively part of the TM movement, but
you Be a
meditator then anyway that you want to parse your affinity
with the
TM movement. But conversely someone here who has never
been
initiated and instructed in meditation by an experienced
transcending
meditation TM teacher is definitely a non-meditator.
Clueless, they
have no idea what is going on as non-meditators.-Buck
---In
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Yes,
spiritual but not religious modern Unified Field
Physicists; aka Saivites of a former period.“A
more likely
probability is that some are Saivite nondualists, not
Buddhists
nondualists”.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@...
wrote:
Right;
but one can be a TMer without being a
TB.Sam Harris on the roots of good and
evil.
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-roots-of-good-and-evil
...On
the question of whether the butt-bouncers are Buddhists.
Most are non-dualists, of which the two major camps
are (most of Buddhism); and Saivite (what is called by
Westerners Hinduism). Ramana Maharshi was definitely a
devotee of Arunachala Shiva but never claimed to be a
HinduIn
short, the TM - TB butt bouncers are mostly nondualists but
not necessarily Buddhists. In order to fit into the
latter, one would (also) have to be aligned with some of the
Buddhist icons or Yidams. It's safe to say that
few TM practitioners are also devoted to Chenrizig, the
Green Tara, etc;.and are thus not Buddhists except for
the non-dualist part.A
more likely probability is that some are Saivite
nondualists, not Buddhists nondualists.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@...
wrote:
TM
is not trademarked in the United Kingdom.
So, ever since I first saw the term TMer used in a post by
Judy, I've
been asking her, and everyone else that comes here, what a
TMer is.
Nobody has been able to answer that question - case in
point. All I
could get out of you was that tantra means a
thread - not very
helpful. If you can't even define what TM is, how could
you say what a
TMer is? Go figure.
So, let's do the math:
1. A TMer practices TM twice a day for twenty minutes.
2. A TMer meditates exactly twenty minutes, no more no
less.
3. A TMer always practices TM twice a day, no exceptions.
4. A TMer has always practiced TM every single day since he
or she
learned TM.
5. A TMer is a TMer if he or she says they are a TMer.
On 11/15/2013 1:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
Transcendental Meditation is a registered trademark.
To the general
public when you say TM in terms of meditation they will
know you mean
the thing that the Beatles' Maharishi taught.
Apply generalities to
other meditation practices which of course DO transcend
tends to muddy
the waters as far as meaning. You're giving TM the
Xerox syndrome.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Failed Monsanto GMO Corn Pushed on African Countries with Help of Bill Gates
Bill Gates is one double barrelled SOB alright. Nabby and Buck will both have conniption fits if David Lynch ever convinces Gates to do TM. On Sun, 11/17/13, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Failed Monsanto GMO Corn Pushed on African Countries with Help of Bill Gates To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 17, 2013, 5:00 PM http://www.infowars.com/failed-monsanto-gmo-corn-pushed-on-african-countries-with-help-of-bill-gates/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Where Do the Higher Dimensions Exist?
There are also many other ideas that are related to the question of higher dimensions. Specifically, Can an enlightened person visit other planets either spiritually or bodily? Are there other Earths in the Milky Way or other galaxies in the universe? If yes, is it possible to visit these other Earths from our home planet in the very distant future? If not, then our Earth will eventually die when our Sun explodes into a supernova? But, on the bright side, it could mean that the environment on the other Earths can develop new human beings or already have humans living there who are similar to those residing on our planet. So, is it necessary for us to leave this planet to explore other worlds? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: The concepts that have been presented here are similar to the idea that everything physical in the universe is based on consciousness, which MMY discusses in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q85jKBuMURQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q85jKBuMURQ ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The Bigot Bill Boy's Sutras on Mysticism? Hilarious empty baby - your emotionally,psychologically retarded self can't stop frothing huh ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: mys·ti·cism (m¹s“t¹-s¹z”…m) n. 1.a. Immediate consciousness of the transcendent or ultimate reality or God. b. The experience of such communion as described by mystics. 2. A belief in the existence of realities beyond perceptual or intellectual apprehension that are central to being and directly accessible by subjective experience. 3. Vague, groundless speculation. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Richard, I tend to agree with what Laski stated. On the second approach that you mentioned, I find it hard to conceive of mysticism without reference to the absolute. In this video clip, Deepak Chopra attempts to explain his own mysticism in terms of quantum physics and consciousness without mentioning the absolute. http://www.youtube.com/ http://www.youtube.com/ ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: There are two main modern approaches to the study of mysticism. One is to say that ALL mystical experience is pathological. Another approach, popular with progressive psyhcologists and writers such as Maslow and Wilber, is that mysticism can be explained without reference to an absolute. In her remarkable study entitled 'Ecstasy', Marghanita Laski rejects all attempts to label the mystic experience pathological. I do not believe that any explanations of these experiences can be satisfactory if they suggest that ecstasies are only this or only that - only a phenomenon of repressed sexuality or only a concomitant of some or other morbid condition. Certainly convictions are an insufficient substitute for evidence, but both people's convictions of the value of these experiences and their subsequent influence on outlook and language persuade me that these are of some evidential value in justifying the conclusion that ecstatic experiences must be treated as important outside religious contexts, as having important effects on people's mental and physical well-being, on their aesthetic preferences, their creativity, their beliefs and philosophies, and on their conduct. Works Cited: 'Ecstasy: A Study of Some Secular and Religious Experiencies' By Marghanita Laski Cresset, 1965 p. 373 On 11/16/2013 3:58 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Scientists have been on a quest to find these higher dimensions that are above the usual space and time. They are conjecturing that these higher dimensions are curled up within space itself. But, IMO, they lie within the human being who has a fully developed brain--in the person who has reached enlightenment. IOW, the higher dimensions pertain to the various states of consciousness which the scientists have not included or recognized in their mathematical calculations, such as the quantum string theory. As MMY stated, for those individuals, heaven has manifested here on earth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7zQvSVzJ0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7zQvSVzJ0
Re: [FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney: TM is a lifelong gift
How do you square these statements with his nearly 50 year habit of daily cannabis consumption? On Sat, 11/16/13, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney: TM is a lifelong gift To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 16, 2013, 9:50 PM Home •What is TM? •References •FAQ •How do I learn? •Where do I learn •News •Contact •EN•NL•FR Paul McCartney: TM is a lifelong gift The Beatles will always remain the most famous TM practitioners of all time, and after 45 years they still support it. During the press conference for the benefit concert for the David Lynch Foundation, where McCartney and Ringo Starr, for the first time in a long time, stood together on stage, Paul said that “It was a great gift that Maharishi has given us. It came during a period at the end of the 60s when we were looking for something that could bring us more stability and it was a lifelong gift. It’s something you can call on at any time.”In a later interview with David Lynch, Paul McCartney explained why exactly he was supporting the David Lynch Foundation:“The kids love it, Kids in Brazil love it, Kids in the West Bank love it…I think this is what people need, they don’t need high minded talk, as much as results”
Re: [FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney: TM is a lifelong gift
Things go better with dope? :-D On 11/18/2013 03:51 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: How do you square these statements with his nearly 50 year habit of daily cannabis consumption? On Sat, 11/16/13, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Paul McCartney: TM is a lifelong gift To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 16, 2013, 9:50 PM Home •What is TM? •References •FAQ •How do I learn? •Where do I learn •News •Contact •EN•NL•FR Paul McCartney: TM is a lifelong gift The Beatles will always remain the most famous TM practitioners of all time, and after 45 years they still support it. During the press conference for the benefit concert for the David Lynch Foundation, where McCartney and Ringo Starr, for the first time in a long time, stood together on stage, Paul said that “It was a great gift that Maharishi has given us. It came during a period at the end of the 60s when we were looking for something that could bring us more stability and it was a lifelong gift. It’s something you can call on at any time.”In a later interview with David Lynch, Paul McCartney explained why exactly he was supporting the David Lynch Foundation:“The kids love it, Kids in Brazil love it, Kids in the West Bank love it…I think this is what people need, they don’t need high minded talk, as much as results”
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[FairfieldLife] RE: Derren Brown: awesome display
Re As a confirmed skeptic, would he even recognize it if he were getting genuine little nudges from the Beyond?: Yes, that's an intriguing suggestion. However, having taken a look at the previous thread you referenced, I'm sure you've all got it wrong. Yes, he does use NLP ideas in some tricks but this is essentially a (covert) hypnosis session. At the point where he asks them if they now believe in God - and they all say Yes - he could have got them to go down on all fours and bark like a dog - the typical stage hypnosis entertainment. He carries it off with panache though. Re In any case, I do still think (as I said in the earlier discussion) that he's crpy.: That's his act! He plays up to the Svengali archetype. That's the fun of his show (and I've seen him live). The segment where he copied by remote-viewing what a psychic was drawing was probably pulled off by him suggesting subliminally key images as he talks to her. (What we see is edited, of course.) The segment where he knows what the woman had dreamed of over the previous nights was another knock-out. Pure effect as Derren Brown calls it. Still trying to figure that one out. He's a divisive figure in the UK. Some people (rationalists) really loathe him as he's such a consummate professional he inevitably makes viewers think, Hey, maybe there's something genuinely psychic going on. Most people, like me, recognise him as an outstanding magician and just enjoy being baffled. Some of his stunts it has literally taken me years of head-scratching to work out how he did them. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, thank you. I've actually seen this segment before--someone posted it here a few years ago and we had a bit of discussion about it (the thread begins with #161279 if you want to have a look). Seeing it again, I find I've changed my mind somewhat about what's going on. I think he may, in fact, have a gift, but he doesn't know it; and it may not be a benign gift. He may--sometimes, not necessarily always--be getting some help from sources that he's not aware of because he's so focused on, and has such confidence in, his various tricks and techniques. As a confirmed skeptic, would he even recognize it if he were getting genuine little nudges from the Beyond? In any case, I do still think (as I said in the earlier discussion) that he's crpy. What I'd like to see would be what would happen if one of his subjects just flatly resisted him (even if he was telling them stuff about themselves that was true). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Does this site work for you? http://vimeo.com/46045821 http://vimeo.com/46045821 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: The video ain't available in the U.S., sadly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Mind-control magician and skeptic Derren Brown takes his debunking mission to America to show just how easy it is to dupe people into believing impossible things before breakfast. He tried to convince five leading figures that he had powers in their particular field of expertise: Christian evangelism, alien abduction, psychic powers, New Age theories and contacting the dead. The whole 50 minutes is a hoot but if you only take a peek check out the segment from 13:11 where he demonstrates his power to convert atheists with a touch. Derren is a friend and admirer of Richard Dawkins - I'd love to see him do this to the Great Atheist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM
[FairfieldLife] RE: Derren Brown: awesome display
On the thread Judy referenced there's a cynical message by one curtisdeltablues It makes more sense that his NLP skills are instantly effective and magical on strangers. Yeah that makes much more sense. How could anyone actually give money to another person for the purposes of making it look like they had done something magical?: The clip he's talking about - where Derren gets strangers to hand over their wallets and keys - is a common criminal scam. It relies on a pattern interrupt, as they say in NLP jargon, and body mirror imaging and is clearly effective. (Apologies if link is blocked for US viewers.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdYgEDSm7E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdYgEDSm7E ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re As a confirmed skeptic, would he even recognize it if he were getting genuine little nudges from the Beyond?: Yes, that's an intriguing suggestion. However, having taken a look at the previous thread you referenced, I'm sure you've all got it wrong. Yes, he does use NLP ideas in some tricks but this is essentially a (covert) hypnosis session. At the point where he asks them if they now believe in God - and they all say Yes - he could have got them to go down on all fours and bark like a dog - the typical stage hypnosis entertainment. He carries it off with panache though. Re In any case, I do still think (as I said in the earlier discussion) that he's crpy.: That's his act! He plays up to the Svengali archetype. That's the fun of his show (and I've seen him live). The segment where he copied by remote-viewing what a psychic was drawing was probably pulled off by him suggesting subliminally key images as he talks to her. (What we see is edited, of course.) The segment where he knows what the woman had dreamed of over the previous nights was another knock-out. Pure effect as Derren Brown calls it. Still trying to figure that one out. He's a divisive figure in the UK. Some people (rationalists) really loathe him as he's such a consummate professional he inevitably makes viewers think, Hey, maybe there's something genuinely psychic going on. Most people, like me, recognise him as an outstanding magician and just enjoy being baffled. Some of his stunts it has literally taken me years of head-scratching to work out how he did them. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, thank you. I've actually seen this segment before--someone posted it here a few years ago and we had a bit of discussion about it (the thread begins with #161279 if you want to have a look). Seeing it again, I find I've changed my mind somewhat about what's going on. I think he may, in fact, have a gift, but he doesn't know it; and it may not be a benign gift. He may--sometimes, not necessarily always--be getting some help from sources that he's not aware of because he's so focused on, and has such confidence in, his various tricks and techniques. As a confirmed skeptic, would he even recognize it if he were getting genuine little nudges from the Beyond? In any case, I do still think (as I said in the earlier discussion) that he's crpy. What I'd like to see would be what would happen if one of his subjects just flatly resisted him (even if he was telling them stuff about themselves that was true). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Does this site work for you? http://vimeo.com/46045821 http://vimeo.com/46045821 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: The video ain't available in the U.S., sadly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Mind-control magician and skeptic Derren Brown takes his debunking mission to America to show just how easy it is to dupe people into believing impossible things before breakfast. He tried to convince five leading figures that he had powers in their particular field of expertise: Christian evangelism, alien abduction, psychic powers, New Age theories and contacting the dead. The whole 50 minutes is a hoot but if you only take a peek check out the segment from 13:11 where he demonstrates his power to convert atheists with a touch. Derren is a friend and admirer of Richard Dawkins - I'd love to see him do this to the Great Atheist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gemini - music vid
Thank You! I will repost. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Your link is for your edit page so in my case it just took me to my edit page. Your link should be this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEkqiReOld8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEkqiReOld8 On 11/18/2013 08:09 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Here is my latest - Around San Francisco Bay, and The City, set to electronic music. Gemini symbols and other numbers, buildings, sky, water, and color. ...no sacrificial virgins... The song is original, electric morning - Gemini. copyright Temple Dog. 2013 http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=Ufeature=vmvideo_id=jEkqiReOld8 http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=Ufeature=vmvideo_id=jEkqiReOld8 PS I just read that *sixteen years* of video (100 hours per minute) is uploaded to Youtube, every day.
