Re: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
Not all wealthy people are jerks, greedy and me people. I knew some kids from a wealthy old money family and the only way they could get access to their trust fund was to first take a job where they had to support themselves. This taught them the value of money. It was also a very liberal family who did good things with their money and helped others. When you have wealth you have responsibility. Many people don't think about that. We have libertarians and conservatives who apparently dream of winning the lottery and don't want to lose a lot in taxes. Geez, they got that money for 1 or 2 dollar investment and they care about a percentage of it going to taxes? They'll still be very rich. Of course many of them will blow that money. And Cook investing in TM would be a bad investment. On 03/28/2015 09:53 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and children agree with this decision? Also, the TMO should offer Cook a rajah position to take advantage of his philanthropic personality. David Lynch and John Hagelin where are you? Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html image http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html Watch the video Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity on Yahoo Finance . Give it away now! Time Cook to donate fortune to charity View on finance.yahoo.com http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind of the Meditator
Thanks for posting this sparaig. This is one of my hobby horses. Pure consciousness is precisely awareness without any thought, image or sensation. And no thought = no thinker. Robert K C Forman (a TM practitioner) has written on this topic, including The Problem of Pure Consciousness: Mysticism and Philosophy and (a better choice) Mysticism, Mind, Consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Rolls eyes. You can force silence by distracting the mind and diverting resources away from the verbal centers or you can allow the mind to become more calm until silence is everywhere. Pure consciousness during TM is no mantra, no thought, no body awareness, no intuition, no emotion, no memory, no sensory awareness of any kind, not just no verbal thoughts. It occurs spontaneously, not at beck and call, and is accompanies by higher levels of alpha coherence in the frontal lobes, along with increased skin resistance, abrupt decrease i heart rate as well as an apparent cessation of breathing or at least abrupt drop in breath rate. It's hard to miss when you hook someone up to the right equipment, but what they found when the examined the woman who most consistently showed these signs, while using the most sophisticated eqiupment, was that she didn't notice the existence of the state, only the transition *out of* the state. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No mantra-No thought Sounds the same. It is a correct experience of the practice of TM (second night checking) and evidently Mindfulness too Pure Awareness. # ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : What they call pure awareness is not what TMers call pure awareness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote : [Scientific American article by Matthieu Ricard, Antoine Lutz, and Richard J. Davidson, Nov. 2014, p. 43] In our Wisconsin lab, we have studied experienced practioners while they performed an advanced form of mindfulness meditation called open presence. In open presence, sometimes called pure awareness, the mind is calm and relaxed, not focused on anything in particular yet vividly clear, free from excitation or dullness. The meditator observes and is open to experience without making any attempt to interpret, change, reject or ignore painful sensation ...[the experimenters somehow induced some pain to experienced meditators, then compared the results to novices.] .We found that the intensity o0f the pain was not reduced in meditators, but it bothered them less than it did members of a control group. . Compared with novices, expert meditators' brain activity diminished in anxiety related regions - the insular cortex and the amygdala - in the period preceding the painful stimulus. . Other tests in our lab have shown that meditation training increases one's ability to better control and buffer basic physiological responses - inflammation or levels of a stress hormone - to a socially stressful task such as giving a public speech or doing mental arithmetic in front of a harsh jury. . .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Xeno, I'm a truth seeker. There was a valid reason why the rishis and prophets of the past have written books like the Bible, BGita and Srimad Bhagavatam. IMO, they were conveying their realization of truth through their meditation and contemplation. Some stories in the Bible, like the Garden of Eden story, can be understood as a metaphor. But there is a message in that story in many levels that the reader and the seeker need to unravel and understand to appreciate its wisdom. The basic essence of the message is the importance of human consciousness and its capacity to cognize the truth. This can be done with human reason and the element of faith. Without them, one cannot perceive the truth that the rishis and prophets were trying to convey. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : JR might be a literalist. I certainly am not. I have encountered Christian groups that interpret scripture metaphorically and speak of consciousness rather than entities such as Moses or Jesus who are going to save your ass if you believe in them. Some people just seem to be unable to interpret things metaphorically. Perhaps they could try writing poetry. To me a spiritual system is a collection of carefully crafted lies that will, if practised properly, eventually allow you to see they are lies. And then you are free of them, and the tendency to fall back into belief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are interperted literaly. Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative. This leads to confusion and misunderstanding, when both groups read each other's literature. Could it be JohnR is a literalist? --- anartaxius@... wrote : Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up currently. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he probably sees nothing wrong with. When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof scriptures such as the Gita. Bzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them. Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO. The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have done research on the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is seeing -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition. While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that any of these seeings have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-) I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some mechanism by which he thinks proof could be offered of Krishna's existence. If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he *does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an authority said so. In other words, his only proof is the word Maharishisez. Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's paradox, I don't know what is. :-) As for the answer to What's in the big pink box, man? that is as much of a koan as it was when posed in the movie Buckaroo Banzai. Me, I kinda doubt it's enlightenment. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
You, and the other Barry, probably earn more in an hour than most people earn in a week. By some standards, you're living in the 1% - both born with a silver spoon in your mouth in the land of opportunity. But in fact, your health is your greatest wealth. Old is the new black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Not all wealthy people are jerks, greedy and me people. I knew some kids from a wealthy old money family and the only way they could get access to their trust fund was to first take a job where they had to support themselves. This taught them the value of money. It was also a very liberal family who did good things with their money and helped others. Non sequitur. When you have wealth you have responsibility. Many people don't think about that. We have libertarians and conservatives who apparently dream of winning the lottery and don't want to lose a lot in taxes. Geez, they got that money for 1 or 2 dollar investment and they care about a percentage of it going to taxes? They'll still be very rich. Of course many of them will blow that money. Non sequitur. And Cook investing in TM would be a bad investment. If Tim Cook learned TM it might be his best investment. On 03/28/2015 09:53 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and children agree with this decision? Also, the TMO should offer Cook a rajah position to take advantage of his philanthropic personality. David Lynch and John Hagelin where are you? Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity Watch the video Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity on Yahoo Finance . Give it away now! Time Cook to donate fortune to charity View on finance.yahoo.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why you might want to buy a coloring book ... for yourself
The basic idea sounds fine to me. I'm sure it's therapeutic. Maybe this book is more appropriate for FFLifers? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Johanna Basford's adult coloring book, 'Secret Garden: An Inky Treasure Hunt and Coloring Book,' is No. 2 on Amazon's Top 100 book list. Is coloring just a trend or actually an effective tool for dealing with stress? By Samantha Laine, Staff Writer March 27, 2015 Stress is a constant companion for many people in the 21st century. We look to exercise, diet, family, and friends as potential outlets to help us unwind. But have you tried coloring? Currently on Amazon’s Top 100 book list are two tomes that fall under a surprising genre: adult coloring books. The artist who created both, Johanna Basford, said she first pitched the idea to her publishers before coloring as an adult was a trend. Her first book, “Secret Garden: An Inky Treasure Hunt and Coloring Book,” was published in 2013, has already sold 1.4 million copies, and is currently No. 2 on Amazon's Top 100 book list. Its sequel, “Enchanted Forest: An Inky Quest and Coloring Book,” is also a success, and she is currently working on a third. Gizmodo.com asked Ms. Basford why she thinks adult coloring books are successful. She gave three reasons: coloring provides a creative outlet, it allows you to zone out, and it brings you back to a place of simplicity. “A blank sheet of paper or an empty canvas can be daunting, but a coloring book acts as a bit of a buffer in this situation,” she told Gizmodo. “Chances are the last time you spent some time coloring you didn't have a mortgage, a horrible boss, or a worries about climate change.” So is there truth to this? Psychologists have found that coloring does indeed have positive effects on participants’ mental health. In the early 20th century, psychologist Carl Jung experimented with the effects of coloring. He used mandalas, circular designs with concentric shapes that originated in India and are often used in meditation. Today, coloring hits on another trend known as mindfulness, the act of being aware or conscious of what is going on around oneself. Psychologies magazine discusses author Mark Robert Waldman’s insight into mindfulness, and how active meditation allows individuals to focus on a simple, repetitive task. “Concentrating this way replaces negative thoughts and creates a state of peace, and many people who have a difficult time with concentrative meditation can find this easier. This gentle activity where you choose the colors to create your picture and the repetitive action of coloring it in focuses the brain on the present, blocking out any intrusive thoughts,” the article explains. Studies have also found a positive link between creativity and productivity in adults. A study at San Francisco State University found that those who partake in creative activities outside of work are better at dealing with stress than those who do not. The study also found that work performance improves. “I recommend it as a relaxation technique,” psychologist Antoni Martínez told The Huffington Post. “We can use it to enter into a more creative, freer state ... I recommend it in a quiet environment, even with chill music. Let the color and the lines flow.” Why you might want to buy a coloring book ... for yourself http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself Why you might want to buy a coloring book ... for yourse... http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself Johanna Basford's adult coloring book, 'Secret Garden: An Inky Treasure Hunt and Coloring Bo... http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Kalama Sutra, a Buddhist text
Kālāma Sūtra - [from YouTube] Rely not on the teacher, but on the teaching. Rely not on the words of the teaching, but on the spirit of the words. Rely not on theory, but on experience. Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. Do not believe anything because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and the benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it ~
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and children agree with this decision? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Just when I think it really isn't possible for JR to get any less intelligent, he surprises me. Not only is he incapable of imagining a rich person deciding to share his wealth with others, So, you believe Fred Lenz could levitate and cause change at will, but JR is less intelligent than you are? Go figure. he doesn't even know that the CEO of Apple is gay. Non sequitur. Not everyone can follow a strict celibacy program like you are, Barry. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Italy court clears Knox and Sollecito
A new film dramatizes the case. Might be worth a look . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DNXa8IJ2hU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DNXa8IJ2hU
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wozniak: Future of AI is Scary
On 03/28/2015 03:25 AM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, you are plain nuts. To solve a problem, one has to look at the root of the problem. For some peculiar reason, you are refusing to address this. Must be the pot calling the kettle black? :-D You keep putting the blame on capitalism, when the real villain is consumerism. You can easily defeat consumerism with a simple progressive consumption tax regime. How do you define capitalism then? Are you confusing it with free enterprise? My POV is not much different from a number scholars on the subject. I'm also preaching to the majority choir on FFL. This idea deserves to be sold. All radical ideas need some selling the beginning because mind has a tendency to become dogmatic. I wonder why you reject this idea? The peoples party in Norway get 90% of its income from the government. What Norway is doing is probably because there are fewer and fewer jobs that need to be filled. This is also happening in the good ol' USA. It's time to pay everyone a yearly stipend. Paying for it has even been worked out. Switzerland is doing it. The idea was even floated back in the Nixon era. Money for nothing? That's a good definition of capitalism. A lot of indians try to invest in US itself. I'm sure there are some that do. The Chinese on the other hand, dutifuly send money home. And buy houses cash in the US like the one I sold in 2013. A Chinese buyer for this house would make things easy for me. My nephew just sold his house cash and actually is moving into a rental that costs less than his house payments yet is larger. He's lucky at his age (59) that he is able to still work and actually was semi-employed at his dad's company until recently when a tech company found they could use his particular skills. I was in kerala in 1998. It became really bad in the early 2000's. Kerala was known for 'general public strikes' called bandhs. Even in the 80's it was difficult for private businesses. Old timers tell me that things were very different in the 1950's and 60's. It was far more self-sufficient. I recall the taxi driver taking us from Kovalum Beach to the Backwater Boat ride complaining about the rich. I shrunk down in my seat because my Indian standards I was rich at the time. But I felt he was correct about what he said. You can't let people push you around just because they are wealthy. That's why the US was formed in the first place. On 03/27/2015 01:43 PM, jason_green2@... mailto:jason_green2@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Actually, this is an old issue. Remember Standard Oil which was broken into 6 companies. Artifically big banks can be broken into manageable units. --- noozguru@... wrote : Mergers and acquisitions are a craze in the business community. When our company went public we were encouraged to buy some smaller companies. Big mistake as we were having problems managing our company as it was. Then there was the blues of the people who worked in the smaller company who didn't want the owner to sell out and liked working there as it was. IBM tends to spin off successful units as they did with Lexmark and Lenovo. That probably was because of an anti-trust suit against them years ago. When you merge a company duplicate positions in the acquired company get laid off. So it creates more unemployment. The big banks are out of control and malicious. Try arguing with their case workers as I did for a mistake *they* made. Kerala at one stage had become so moribund, even rice had to be imported from neighboring provinces. Only after the unruly unions were reined in, things began to get better again. --- noozguru@... wrote : When was this? I was there in 1996. Indians in US send no shit home. Remitances from the middle-east give kerala a financial flexibility. --- noozguru@... wrote : Really? I know Indians that send money home. I think I told you a hundred times that the political funding issue needs to be sorted out first. First things first. --- noozguru@... wrote : You can tell me all you want but I won't buy what you're selling. :-D It was the East India company that wrecked india from 1757 to 1857. The british govt took over in 1857, but it was too late. --- noozguru@... wrote : East India Company was a British company. The same one our founding fathers rebelled against. --- noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You so don't understand. I'm not advocating socialism just condemning lassiez-faire capitalism or capitalists gone wild! Surely you don't think that too big to fail banks are a good thing, do you? Or have you been brainwashed by some business school bullshit, perhaps MUM economics? And what did you think of Kerala when you were there? :-D BTW, lots of Indians works all over the world and send money back home. India was under foreign domination for centuries and when they
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
So, it has been established that MJ has never been to India and obviously knows nothing about Hindus. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you are living in a fantasy world of your own making if u believe the majority of Hinduus see the gods as a metaphor. Non sequitur. the number of incidents where Hindus riot, rampage and kill their Muslim and Sikh neighbors for some insult to one of the Hindoo deities belies your fantasy Non sequitur. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan? Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that thinking Indians see the Hindu pantheon as metaphors. He thinks everyone in India takes them literally. But MJ has never been to India and I'm sure the place would come as a shock to him. On 03/28/2015 11:27 AM, jason_green2@... mailto:jason_green2@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are interperted literaly. Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative. This leads to confusion and misunderstanding, when both groups read each other's literature. Could it be JohnR is a literalist? --- anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up currently. --- turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he probably sees nothing wrong with. When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof scriptures such as the Gita. Bzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them. Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO. The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have done research on the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is seeing -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition. While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that any of these seeings have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-) I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some mechanism by which he thinks proof could be offered of Krishna's existence. If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he *does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an authority said so. In other words, his only proof is the word Maharishisez. Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's paradox, I don't know what is. :-) As for the answer to What's in the big pink box, man? that is as much of a koan as it was when posed in the movie Buckaroo Banzai. Me, I kinda doubt it's enlightenment. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you are living in a fantasy world of your own making if u believe the majority of Hinduus see the gods as a metaphor. Non sequitur. the number of incidents where Hindus riot, rampage and kill their Muslim and Sikh neighbors for some insult to one of the Hindoo deities belies your fantasy Non sequitur. From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
You sound really JELLOS. There's just no way Bill Gates or Warren Buffett can compare to all your philanthropic efforts. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If Cook follows in Gates' and Buffett's shoes then he will join the ranks of a couple of snot nose bastards who make a big show out of heppin' folks when what they are really doing is help themselves and their friends take over the world. Fuck all those lying sobs. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and children agree with this decision? Also, the TMO should offer Cook a rajah position to take advantage of his philanthropic personality. David Lynch and John Hagelin where are you? Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma Watch the video Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity on Yahoo Finance . Give it away now! Time Cook to donate fortune to charity View on finance.yahoo.com http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind of the Meditator
People practising mindfulness (Vipassana) meditation appear to describe pure consciousness as a result as much as those practising TM, though, from what I have read of peoples' experiences, perhaps not quite so soon after starting meditation as TM practitioners. Perhaps part of the difficulty in discerning 'pure consciousness' is traditions other than TM do not seem to regard 'pure consciousness' as something separate from waking experience, they regard it as simultaneous with waking (as in CC) or as the essential aspect of waking experience (unity), while TM philosophy tends to separate it out as a sequential development of experiences. People learning mindfulness do seem to take a bit longer to experience settled meditations than those practising TM, but if we look at end results (enlightenment — Brahman in TM-speak) there does not seem to be a great distinguishing factor between them. There does not seem to be useful research allowing us to tell more specifically. If meditation is a valuable resource for life, perhaps the focus could be on what works best for people on an individual basis rather than on the particular system one is enamoured of because it is the only one that was tried. For improving life, I have heard people say of psychological non-meditative systems that 'It's the only way' to get out of problems. Success has been observed with people practising many different systems. Research on TM and Other Forms of Meditation Stinks March 8, 2013 | By John Horgan | Scientific American In response to my last post, which proposed that Transcendental Meditation and other cults might be exploiting the placebo effect, some readers cited studies supposedly showing that TM has therapeutic benefits. Well, sure. There are lots of studies showing that lots of forms of meditation can yield lots of benefits. But the research is unimpressive, to say the least, and is corrupted by the 'allegiance effect,' the tendency of proponents of a treatment to find evidence that it works. (The term was coined by a Lester Luborsky, a prominent psychotherapy researcher.) For a critical overview of meditation research, see a 2000 article in the Journal of Consciousness Studies, 'Meditation Meets Behavioral Medicine,' which I discussed in my 2003 book Rational Mysticism. Author Jensine Andresen, now a religious scholar at Columbia, reviewed more than 500 papers and books on meditation published over the last half century. Andresen cautioned that there are thousands of techniques that could be categorized as meditation; it is virtually impossible to define the term in a way that does justice to this vast diversity. Not surprisingly, she said, attempts to measure meditation's neurological effects with brain-wave monitors, positron emission tomography, and other techniques have yielded widely divergent findings. Meditation has been 'prodded and poked by a variety of technological apparati, with inconclusive results,' Andresen commented. For every report of increased activity in the frontal cortex or decreased activity in the amygdala, there is a conflicting finding. Investigations of meditation's therapeutic benefits have been equally inconclusive. Meditation has been linked to a dizzying array of benefits, including the alleviation of stress, anxiety, high blood pressure, substance abuse, hostility, pain, depression, asthma, premenstrual syndrome, infertility, insomnia, substance abuse and the side effects of chemotherapy. But many of these studies have been poorly designed, Andresen remarked, carried out with inadequate controls or no controls at all. Andresen noted that meditation has been linked to adverse side effects, too, including suggestibility, neuroticism, depression, suicidal impulses, insomnia, nightmares, anxiety, psychosis and dysphoria. In an implicit reference to the cultish context within which meditation is often taught, Andresen added that meditators may become vulnerable to 'manipulation and control by others,' including 'unscrupulous or delusional teachers.' A similar picture emerges from the 2007 peer-reviewed report 'Meditation practices for health: state of the research,' by the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine. The report analyzed 813 studies of meditation and concluded that most were of 'poor quality.' The report stated: 'Many uncertainties surround the practice of meditation. Scientific research on meditation practices does not appear to have a common theoretical perspective and is characterized by poor methodological quality. Firm conclusions on the effects of meditation practices in healthcare cannot be drawn based on the available evidence.' If your particular form of meditation makes you feel good, do it! But don't kid yourself that its medical benefits have been scientifically proven. American Heart Association 2013 | American Heart Association A 2013 statement
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
you are living in a fantasy world of your own making if u believe the majority
of Hinduus see the gods as a metaphor. the number of incidents where Hindus
riot, rampage and kill their Muslim and Sikh neighbors for some insult to one
of the Hindoo deities belies your fantasy
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that
thinking Indians see the Hindu pantheon as metaphors. He thinks everyone in
India takes them literally. But MJ has never been to India and I'm sure the
place would come as a shock to him.
On 03/28/2015 11:27 AM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview
is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are
interperted literaly.
Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more
metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative.
This leads to confusion and misunderstanding, when both
groups read each other's literature.
Could it be JohnR is a literalist?
--- anartaxius@... wrote :
Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem
to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the
Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention
of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more
historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view
of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an
underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically
just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in
that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think
critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a
better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up
currently.
--- turquoiseb@... wrote :
I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of
many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I
have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he
probably sees nothing wrong with.
When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from
religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof scriptures such as
the Gita. Bzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are
NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't
even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them.
Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO.
The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have done research on
the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is
seeing -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition.
While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that
any of these seeings have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people
who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-)
I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some
mechanism by which he thinks proof could be offered of Krishna's existence.
If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he
*does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an authority
said so. In other words, his only proof is the word Maharishisez.
Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being
both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy
has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour
and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's
paradox, I don't know what is. :-)
As for the answer to What's in the big pink box, man? that is as much of a
koan as it was when posed in the movie Buckaroo Banzai. Me, I kinda doubt
it's enlightenment. :-)
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Living Communally: Wozniak: Future of AI is Scary
You have a point. My point is it's good to have a healthy eco-system, of the economic system. A system that has diversity of approaches will be more stable in the long run. I have often noticed that any organisation or country, it's success often depends on the vision of the top-man, ie the leader. Could it be a law of nature? The key word here is transparency. It eliminates mismanagement, brings in professionalism. --- dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Hy-Vee Foods, Employee Owned is another good life-cycle example of this potential within cooperative living if not actively looked out for by a level of transparency and civil society. Employee-owned with a few people at the top management cutting hours and benefits of their working not-quite full-time employees to pay profits for the salaries of boards and managers on top. As one full-time employee there observed after work hours were cut to less than full time, 'Employee Owned' by five people at the top.. Thanks, co-ops sound very ideal towards a sharing. Though sounds further in time a lot like any organizations where things starts off with a membership with one-person-one-vote then you get an administrative board elected. And it becomes an oligarchy of sorts. Seems co-ops often just go the route of corporations anyway. ..Good for a few people at the top once it gets going. Sort of like the Standing Committee over communist China. Putin's Oligarchy. Or, the TM movement now. Thanks, co-ops sound very ideal towards a sharing. Though sounds further in time a lot like any organizations where things starts off with a membership with one-person-one-vote then you get an administrative board elected. And it becomes an oligarchy of sorts. Like what happened with the New Pioneer Food Coop in Iowa City. Now a few high-paid administrator/store-managers working at the board level over the membership, high priced food, and a lot of lowly-paid working-poor employees to pay for the administrator managers. Same thing for this Heartland 'Cooperative' that just built this massive multi-million dollar facility for the simple business of unloading and re-loading grain on to a monopoly-owned rail-line here with slim chance of pay-back. Small group of manager-class running it. Pretty evidently a project that an administrative-team put together for itself aside from the membership understanding the economics of it so far as pay-back. The membership proly would have been better off with that capital returned in dividend. But of course there is no job in that for the manager-class. Seems co-ops often just go the route of corporations anyway. ..Good for a few people at the top once it gets going. Sort of like the Standing Committee over communist China. Putin's Oligarchy. Or, the TM movement now. -Buck, a meditator member in a meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa --- jason_green2@... wrote : Buck, you will getter a good understanding from this link below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative In a cooperative entity, you have only one vote no matter how many shares you own. This is one essential difference form corporate entity. Their goal is minimal profits. Though, there are some cooperative entities that are non-profit and yet do business. --- dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks, really interesting thoughtful posts. These are secular cooperatives you mention? Where people live together communally? Shared-goods other than just the business? Housing? Meals? Health Insurance/care? The aged? Non-spiritual? What keeps them together other than their business model? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : 'State Communism' was tried and it failed miserably for a number of reasons. It was too simplistic and childish. No balance between the individual and the collective. First of all, a distinction should be made between 'essential goods' and 'non-essential goods'. Secondly, the success of cooperative entities like Mondragon cooperative in Spain and Amul cooperative in india proves that 'non-state socialism' is as effective as 'non-state capitalism'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co-operative_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co-operative_Group The fact that these 'cooperative entities' are able to compete with 'corporate entities', and exist with them side by side, even do business with each other, proves that there is space for both approaches. Non-state socialism can exist along with non-state capitalism. --- noozguru@... wrote : Communism is an interesting idea that has never been tried. What some people think are communist countries are family businesses. North Korea as an example. On 03/25/2015
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind of the Meditator
Can you point me to contemporary mindfulness essays or research on contemporary mindfulness practitioners where they describe a situation where there is no thought, no mantra, no awareness of the outside world, no awareness of the body, no emotion, no intuition, no memory, no mind content of any kind, and yet the meditator is still somehow awake? Also, mindfulness practices tend to disrupt the sense of self, as has been reported in quite a few modern studies on practitioners. In fact, researchers note that mind-wandering simply does not happen in long-term practitioners and count this a good thing: they note quite happily, that mindfulness reduces activity and interactions between the parts of the brain thought to be responsible for sense of self. TM, on the other hand, is taught in terms of allowing the mind to wander, and physiological research shows that the same activity and interactions that mindfulness reduces, TM enhances. Interestingly enough, this review article, Towards a neuroscience of mind-wandering (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3112331/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3112331/) notes specifically that mind-wandering is essential for sense of self according to modern neuroscience theories, so to claim that mindfulness leads to the same kind of enlightenment as TM, where sense-of-self is perceived as the basis of all reality, is kinda odd: mindfulness disrupts the very foundation of such a perspective. Finally, citing that Scientific America citing a wikipedia page is hilarious (the text 'unknown/unclear/uncertain or not well-established' appears nowhere in the original article, even though it is quoted as though it does, so we know that the author cut and paste from wikipedia rather than reading the actual scientific statement from the American Heart Association). The quoted text is from an image included with the article to help explain what different wordings could be used for which category. In the case of Level IIB, the added words referred to comparison with Level IIA or higher and had no other meaning in context. As well, the SA author's points are even more out of date 2 years later, as a new review of research on TM and high blood pressure was published at the start of this year, lending further support to the idea that TM does have a consistent effect on high blood pressure. Investigating the effect of transcendental meditation on blood pressure: a systematic review and meta-analysis. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25673114 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25673114 On the other hand, the only long-term study on mindfulness and high blood pressure I know of explicitly says that the effects of mindfulness on blood pressure go away after 2 or 3 years. Effects of stress reduction on cardiovascular risk factors in type 2 diabetes patients with early kidney disease - results of a randomized controlled trial (HEIDIS). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21713118 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21713118 ...Parallel to the reduction of stress levels after 1 year, the intervention-group additionally showed reduced catecholamine levels (p 0.05), improved 24 h-mean arterial (p 0.05) and maximum systolic blood pressure (p 0.01), as well as a reduction in IMT (p 0.01). However, these effects were lost after 2 and 3 years of follow-up. As far as J Krishnamurti goes, how many people became enlightened by listening to him? Fred Travis has published physiological research on 17 people in CC and tells me that he has found at least 51 new CC subjects for a new physiological study on CC that he's doing. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : People practising mindfulness (Vipassana) meditation appear to describe pure consciousness as a result as much as those practising TM, though, from what I have read of peoples' experiences, perhaps not quite so soon after starting meditation as TM practitioners. Perhaps part of the difficulty in discerning 'pure consciousness' is traditions other than TM do not seem to regard 'pure consciousness' as something separate from waking experience, they regard it as simultaneous with waking (as in CC) or as the essential aspect of waking experience (unity), while TM philosophy tends to separate it out as a sequential development of experiences. People learning mindfulness do seem to take a bit longer to experience settled meditations than those practising TM, but if we look at end results (enlightenment — Brahman in TM-speak) there does not seem to be a great distinguishing factor between them. There does not seem to be useful research allowing us to tell more specifically. If meditation is a valuable resource for life, perhaps the focus could be on what works best for people on an individual basis rather than on the particular system one is enamoured of because it is the only one that was tried. For
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
Just when I think it really isn't possible for JR to get any less intelligent, he surprises me. Not only is he incapable of imagining a rich person deciding to share his wealth with others, he doesn't even know that the CEO of Apple is gay. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : This could explain how Winthrop and Albert worked on the non-weapon part, of an exclusively weapons project in which, one of them was denied security clearance. Maybe, but what does that have to do with a rich person like Barry donating $5000 to take a TMSP, $10,000 to the Rama cult, and giving $500 to a Tibetan fund for an religious artifact to hang in his bedroom? Can anyone help Barry spell cognitive dissonance?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind of the Meditator
I was quoting comments on research to indicate that relying on research with the present level of quality is a fool's game. You are making the assumption that 'pure consciousness' is a specific meditative state instead of the ground of experience which includes what TM calls 'the relative' and this includes CC where pure consciousness is coincident with active experience, and Unity where the objects of experience are known as 'pure consciousness'. Whether you say the self expands to Self (TM) or whether you say the self vanishes and is replaced by the totality (mindfulness) makes no difference as they are the same thing expressed from opposite points of view. The individual sense of ego gets subsumed by a larger quality of experience, and it really matters not what it is called, because there is not real definition for it that does not imply limitation by verbal mental reductionism. I quoted Krishnamurti because Maharishi specifically said he was in Unity. And true, probably few or none ever got enlightened by him because he just popped in, and never really knew how it happened, but you are welcome to point out those whom Maharishi enlightened (that is, that are in unity, not CC). More comments below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Can you point me to contemporary mindfulness essays or research on contemporary mindfulness practitioners where they describe a situation where there is no thought, no mantra, no awareness of the outside world, no awareness of the body, no emotion, no intuition, no memory, no mind content of any kind, and yet the meditator is still somehow awake? Also, mindfulness practices tend to disrupt the sense of self, as has been reported in quite a few modern studies on practitioners. In fact, researchers note that mind-wandering simply does not happen in long-term practitioners and count this a good thing: they note quite happily, that mindfulness reduces activity and interactions between the parts of the brain thought to be responsible for sense of self. TM, on the other hand, is taught in terms of allowing the mind to wander, and physiological research shows that the same activity and interactions that mindfulness reduces, TM enhances. Interestingly enough, this review article, Towards a neuroscience of mind-wandering (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3112331/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3112331/) notes specifically that mind-wandering is essential for sense of self according to modern neuroscience theories, so to claim that mindfulness leads to the same kind of enlightenment as TM, where sense-of-self is perceived as the basis of all reality, is kinda odd: mindfulness disrupts the very foundation of such a perspective. Finally, citing that Scientific America citing a wikipedia page is hilarious (the text 'unknown/unclear/uncertain or not well-established' appears nowhere in the original article, even though it is quoted as though it does, so we know that the author cut and paste from wikipedia rather than reading the actual scientific statement from the American Heart Association). The quoted text is from an image included with the article to help explain what different wordings could be used for which category. In the case of Level IIB, the added words referred to comparison with Level IIA or higher and had no other meaning in context. As well, the SA author's points are even more out of date 2 years later, as a new review of research on TM and high blood pressure was published at the start of this year, lending further support to the idea that TM does have a consistent effect on high blood pressure. Investigating the effect of transcendental meditation on blood pressure: a systematic review and meta-analysis. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25673114 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25673114 Recall that the American Heart Association recommendation was based only on studies with African Americans. When I took the SCI course many years ago there was a (non African) woman in the class who had high blood pressure, and she was worried because in spite of practising TM, her blood pressure was still rising. There were also a lot of questions about that study, as it seemed to go through a number of odd last minute revisions and was published in a different journal at the last minute. The AHA headline for the news report of the study (emphasis added). Meditation may reduce death, heart attack and stroke in heart patients Meditation and Heart Health http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/More/MyHeartandStrokeNews/Meditation-and-Heart-Disease-Stroke_UCM_452930_Article.jsp (another AHA page) http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/More/MyHeartandStrokeNews/Meditation-and-Heart-Disease-Stroke_UCM_452930_Article.jsp Meditation and Heart Health
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Egotist
What a wonderful, fun way to use paradox. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Most people hate egotists. They remind them of themselves. I love egotists. They remind me of me. (Raymond M Smullyan)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
There is a lot of research that indicates most, if not all these books are compilations of earlier material, whether written or orally transmitted. This does not imply they are corrupt or without value. Also the human mind's ability to see a story in a metaphorical way can override a story's original intent, and variations in human understanding may in fact override any story's original intent. That means the 'the essence of the message is the importance of human consciousness and its capacity to cognize the truth' can be something our own minds add to the original story, though it seems reasonably certain some stories were written or spoken with this in mind, but others may not have. Faith is only the hope that something is true without any knowledge of truth. If you know, you do not need faith because it is there in front of you. If you have a plate of scrambled eggs in front of you for breakfast, you do not need faith that breakfast is at hand (unless you have been brainwashed that is something you are not supposed to eat). Reason is certainly required to check on whether one is deceiving oneself. If there is something one could call truth, you do not need faith to perceive it, you just have to perceive it, otherwise you will never know. Because you say you are a seeker, you could not have found it yet, and therefore could not yet know what the rishis and prophets were trying to say, or whether they, in fact, said something about this truth you speak of. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, I'm a truth seeker. There was a valid reason why the rishis and prophets of the past have written books like the Bible, BGita and Srimad Bhagavatam. IMO, they were conveying their realization of truth through their meditation and contemplation. Some stories in the Bible, like the Garden of Eden story, can be understood as a metaphor. But there is a message in that story in many levels that the reader and the seeker need to unravel and understand to appreciate its wisdom. The basic essence of the message is the importance of human consciousness and its capacity to cognize the truth. This can be done with human reason and the element of faith. Without them, one cannot perceive the truth that the rishis and prophets were trying to convey.
[FairfieldLife] The Egotist
Most people hate egotists. They remind them of themselves. I love egotists. They remind me of me. (Raymond M Smullyan)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Oh gee. Now we agree on something. Try to convince MJ though that thinking Indians see the Hindu pantheon as metaphors. He thinks everyone in India takes them literally. But MJ has never been to India and I'm sure the place would come as a shock to him. On 03/28/2015 11:27 AM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are interperted literaly. Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative. This leads to confusion and misunderstanding, when both groups read each other's literature. Could it be JohnR is a literalist? --- anartaxius@... wrote : Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up currently. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he probably sees nothing wrong with. When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof scriptures such as the Gita. Bzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them. Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO. The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have done research on the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is seeing -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition. While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that any of these seeings have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-) I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some mechanism by which he thinks proof could be offered of Krishna's existence. If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he *does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an authority said so. In other words, his only proof is the word Maharishisez. Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's paradox, I don't know what is. :-) As for the answer to What's in the big pink box, man? that is as much of a koan as it was when posed in the movie Buckaroo Banzai. Me, I kinda doubt it's enlightenment. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
JR might be a literalist. I certainly am not. I have encountered Christian groups that interpret scripture metaphorically and speak of consciousness rather than entities such as Moses or Jesus who are going to save your ass if you believe in them. Some people just seem to be unable to interpret things metaphorically. Perhaps they could try writing poetry. To me a spiritual system is a collection of carefully crafted lies that will, if practised properly, eventually allow you to see they are lies. And then you are free of them, and the tendency to fall back into belief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are interperted literaly. Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative. This leads to confusion and misunderstanding, when both groups read each other's literature. Could it be JohnR is a literalist? --- anartaxius@... wrote : Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up currently. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he probably sees nothing wrong with. When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof scriptures such as the Gita. Bzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them. Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO. The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have done research on the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is seeing -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition. While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that any of these seeings have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-) I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some mechanism by which he thinks proof could be offered of Krishna's existence. If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he *does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an authority said so. In other words, his only proof is the word Maharishisez. Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's paradox, I don't know what is. :-) As for the answer to What's in the big pink box, man? that is as much of a koan as it was when posed in the movie Buckaroo Banzai. Me, I kinda doubt it's enlightenment. :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade.
You know Americans are going to have to subsidize the cost to teach 100 million. I guess they can up the American initiation fee and make recertified teachers get recertified again. From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. | All in the mind | The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the beneficial power of transcendental meditation. He says: “I started transcendental meditation in 1973 and have not missed a single meditation ever since. Twice a day, every day. It has given me effortless access to unlimited reserves of energy, creativity and happiness deep within.”After a chance meeting with fellow practitioner Bob Roth a decade ago, the pair started the David Lynch Foundation and have since helped hundreds of thousands of at-risk people using this form of meditation. Here Roth, the co-founder and executive director of the foundation, talks about its aim to help 100 million people in the next decade. Given the current surge in interest in mindfulness, now is the perfect time for spas to get involved he says. | | What’s the main purpose of the David Lynch Foundation? We’re a non-profit organisation, founded in 2005 by the film director David Lynch, dedicated to making transcendental meditation (TM) accessible to many different areas of the population. In the beginning, our focus was on helping at-risk children in low income urban schools to cope with the extreme stresses that they were facing. In less than 10 years, we’ve touched the lives of more than 500,000 students. Over time, our work has spread to a wider range of people, from the homeless to victims of domestic violence, war veterans with post traumatic stress disorder and HIV/AIDS sufferers. How did you meet David Lynch? I was organising a TM conference and David Lynch, who had been practising TM for around 30 years, was invited to attend.He heard the horror stories about at-risk youth – of kids who witnessed and experienced domestic violence and gangland shootings and were then expected to go to school and learn algebra. The idea of the foundation was born from this meeting and we created it soon after.How does TM differ from other forms of meditation? According to science, there are three basic approaches to meditation. The first is called ‘focused attention’, where you attempt to actively control your thoughts, clear your mind, or focus on your breath. This produces the gamma brainwaves that are associated with peak concentration.The second is ‘open monitoring’ which includes many mindfulness techniques, where you learn to observe your thoughts or emotions dispassionately. This produces theta brainwaves, which are very slow and present during the REM stages of sleep.Thirdly is ‘automatic self transcending’, which is transcendental meditation, where you learn to effortlessly transcend conscious thinking to achieve a profound state of calm, of inner wakefulness. It’s like diving underneath a choppy ocean to the calm waters beneath. In this state, deeply relaxing alpha brainwaves are present. Because of its simplicity and naturalness TM is the easiest to learn – even a 10-year-old can practise it. What are the benefits of TM? In a society where there’s an epidemic of stress, TM helps people achieve a profound state of rest at will. It’s been shown to instantly drop cortisol levels by 30 per cent – which is more than we get from a good night’s sleep. There’s also evidence that TM reduces high blood pressure as effectively as medication, reduces cholesterol, atherosclerosis and risk of stroke; and reduces anxiety, depression and insomnia.In addition, much research indicates that TM improves memory, creativity and problem solving. It wakes up the brain!How did you first discover TM? I was at the University of Berkeley in California, in the 1960s. It was a time of riots, strikes and anti-war demos. Students were being shot and tanks were parked outside.I wasn’t a hippie or a druggie but I was looking for a natural way to overcome the intense pressures of going to school full time, working full
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind of the Meditator
Great quotes. The TM researchers and movement seem quite desperate to prove a negative, even if they don't experience it. So, they co-opt the discussion by defining their particular alpha-coherence as the definition of a transcendence. That makes it real easy to win an argument between meditation practices. The question remains still as to whether the TM'ers with all their investment in fancy equipment are close to measuring the right thing. Evidently spirituality is way more than alpha-wave-coherence. They obviously are not able to measure what all is going on with a spirituality of a soul in the whole body-mind complex, commonly referred to as embodying the spiritual heart-being. Is that why TM'er are commonly thought of as heartless and in the head? 'Spock-like'? There was a longer thread on this over at The_Peak recently. The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenm... View on groups.yahoo.com https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 Preview by Yahoo From The_Peak, Thanks, good discernment extending this aspect of souls incarnating to 'origin of awareness' and a why or implication of incarnational life. Deferring here to my wife's experience with this from her career work with people as 'the Heart Field in addition to the Mental Field'.. She is quite eloquent on this from her experience with it. The Divine qualities of the Heart evidently are not linear like mental fields of the mind. In the mind those values are linear and thoughts. In the heart they are inward divine fields that extend out as field effects in life. Long-term meditators may have bright open upper mental fields but as a cultivated awakened super-mental purity which can be dry, calm and not blissful. An implication by contrast is that spiritually people die as they have lived, either in the head or heart. As people die you can feel the cultivated value in balance of what is mental and heart being. Meditators can be peaceful but also cold or dry simply in how people have lived their lives. This speaks to what is spiritually possible from cold and calm to expansive and open to a bliss experience as what can be done to cultivate larger spiritual values. For instance, Divine Friendliness, Compassion or Happiness is a relationship which is luscious in the energy field where it is activated. ..where the transcending happens in the heart. You can find this in some meditators as they have lived their lives. More than peace it is love. Brain waves do not necessarily translate in to heart-being but when 'calm' gets activated by the mechanism of the heart chakra. You can see super developed mental fields that are cold and serene but without a lusciousness or love. Soul-self is bliss-self in the incarnational light body. The soul in life wants to 'dip its toe' in to incarnation. The spark of jivan is in the heart chakra and when the heart stops the soul heads out. You can feel it as it happens when you are there. It is phenomenon as it happens while it happens if you are open to it. It is a miraculous coming and going in life. Some people are naturally cultivated in divine qualities of the heart, some have cultivated in life divine qualities of friendliness, compassion and happiness in the living of their lives. So people are afraid when without a fullness of the field of love there this is not cultivated in capacity the experience of love in the heart. Without activation of the divine qualities in the heart people are lonely otherwise and suffer spiritual grief. That can be worked with. It is that simple. In the heart of the matter: “In life know the glorious and in death just take the vale away.” Evidently there is more to spiritual life than just transcending. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Rolls eyes. You can force silence by distracting the mind and diverting resources away from the verbal centers or you can allow the mind to become more calm until silence is everywhere. Pure consciousness during TM is no mantra, no thought, no body awareness, no intuition, no emotion, no memory, no sensory awareness of any kind, not just no verbal thoughts. It occurs spontaneously, not at beck and call, and is accompanies by higher levels of alpha coherence in the frontal lobes, along with increased skin resistance, abrupt decrease i heart rate as well as an apparent cessation of breathing or at least abrupt drop in breath rate. It's hard to miss when you hook someone up to the right equipment, but what they found when the
Re: [FairfieldLife] 9000 MAHARISHI VEDIC PANDITS CHANTING
I wonder if the person who sends this stuff thinks that somehow one of us TM
apostates will have some sort of epiphany and come running back to the fold of
Dome zombies?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets
I base my opinions on facts, not on TM public relations hype and fantasy. As I have pointed out before, if you REALLY think TM is so hot, you would be doing yourself, and teaching it yourself or at least teaching at MUM as you once did. How come you left there anyway? As to this Africa deal given the way things have come out with TM over the years with all the casualties, the burnouts, the head cases, the attempted ans successful suicides, do you really think this Africa deal will be anything other than an unmitigated disaster (other than financially for the Movement of course which is why the big shots are pushing the deal to begin with.) From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets This is excellent news, although of course it is not much use directing it to Turquoise B or MJ, neither of whom, despite their protestations to the contrary, is remotely interested in the truth. They actually remind me of political zealots, like the right-wing Republicans who oppose everything Obama says or does simply because it is Obama. There is no thought process involved, no analysis, just blind ideology and a willful, determined ignorance of the facts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Ha ha. But did you read the article? A little more background: after the DLF published the 2 pilot studies on how TM affects PTSD in war refugees in Africa, they received inquiries from various groups tasked with handling the ongoing Disaster-that-is-Africa. [Basically, 100 million Africans are thought to have PTSD, so anything that offers such rapid relief to what is probably the foundational cause of much of the cycle of violence and greed in the region would be a Very Good Thing™] And so. these organizations wanted to know 1) how fast could the DLF's Africn PTSD Relief project http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html be scaled up to reach all of Africa? and 2) how much would it cost? And so, the DLF is acting as middle man between the TM organization and the United Nations and other groups to negotiate a deal to train relief workers as TM teachers. The UN workers would continue to be employees of the UN and would teach TM for free, much the same way that the DLF does in public schools. I don't know any of the financial details, but I'm sure that that is what the negotiations are about. By the way, none of these groups would dream of shelling out what will eventually be very large sums of money without doing their own research on TM and PTSD in the target populations and the first of these independently conducted studies has been submitted for review. I'm told it isn't nearly as dramatic as the DLF-funded studies, as it shows that it takes TWO months of TM practice for 90% of the PTSD subjects to become non-symptomatic, rather than only one month. Even so, the results of this and other studies in the pipeline are remarkable enough that the DLF is now projecting that by the end of 2018, ten million people will learn TM for free, taught by government and relief workers trained as TM teachers, teaching TM as part of their job description for their current employer. That will include relief workers, school counselors, prison guards and so on. So your little title change isn't relevant: the UN, should their own research justify it, would be paying for their own people to teach TM. The TM organization would be simply acting as a training and accreditation organization (with whatever details are required to make it work for both parties). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You seem to have mistyped the Subject line, so I corrected it for you. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. | All in the mind | The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the beneficial power of transcendental meditation. He says: “I started transcendental meditation in 1973 and have
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets
I forgot to mention, I have in fact looked at facts, many of them presented here on FFL. And not just those stories posted by Sal, Curtis and Barry. I perused the archives of FFL since its inception and those things I found, posted by many who no longer post here, along with my personal experiences, and my conversations with some people who grew up in the Movement plus my own common sense has lead me to the inescapable conclusion that TM is not the fabulous technique it is billed as being, Marshy was a brilliant orator and businessman and a lair, con artist and fraud all at the same time, TM in many cases and circumstances is actually dangerous to those who practice it, and the Movement itself is an utterly fake and fraudulent organization. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets This is excellent news, although of course it is not much use directing it to Turquoise B or MJ, neither of whom, despite their protestations to the contrary, is remotely interested in the truth. They actually remind me of political zealots, like the right-wing Republicans who oppose everything Obama says or does simply because it is Obama. There is no thought process involved, no analysis, just blind ideology and a willful, determined ignorance of the facts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Ha ha. But did you read the article? A little more background: after the DLF published the 2 pilot studies on how TM affects PTSD in war refugees in Africa, they received inquiries from various groups tasked with handling the ongoing Disaster-that-is-Africa. [Basically, 100 million Africans are thought to have PTSD, so anything that offers such rapid relief to what is probably the foundational cause of much of the cycle of violence and greed in the region would be a Very Good Thing™] And so. these organizations wanted to know 1) how fast could the DLF's Africn PTSD Relief project http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html be scaled up to reach all of Africa? and 2) how much would it cost? And so, the DLF is acting as middle man between the TM organization and the United Nations and other groups to negotiate a deal to train relief workers as TM teachers. The UN workers would continue to be employees of the UN and would teach TM for free, much the same way that the DLF does in public schools. I don't know any of the financial details, but I'm sure that that is what the negotiations are about. By the way, none of these groups would dream of shelling out what will eventually be very large sums of money without doing their own research on TM and PTSD in the target populations and the first of these independently conducted studies has been submitted for review. I'm told it isn't nearly as dramatic as the DLF-funded studies, as it shows that it takes TWO months of TM practice for 90% of the PTSD subjects to become non-symptomatic, rather than only one month. Even so, the results of this and other studies in the pipeline are remarkable enough that the DLF is now projecting that by the end of 2018, ten million people will learn TM for free, taught by government and relief workers trained as TM teachers, teaching TM as part of their job description for their current employer. That will include relief workers, school counselors, prison guards and so on. So your little title change isn't relevant: the UN, should their own research justify it, would be paying for their own people to teach TM. The TM organization would be simply acting as a training and accreditation organization (with whatever details are required to make it work for both parties). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You seem to have mistyped the Subject line, so I corrected it for you. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. | All in the mind | The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the
Re: [FairfieldLife] 9000 MAHARISHI VEDIC PANDITS CHANTING
Yeah, sometimes I imagine Buck singing Come Back to the Dome was a country western tune. On 03/28/2015 07:12 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I wonder if the person who sends this stuff thinks that somehow one of us TM apostates will have some sort of epiphany and come running back to the fold of Dome zombies? *From:* email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:40 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 9000 MAHARISHI VEDIC PANDITS CHANTING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs 1331 Maharishi Vedic Pandits Chanting Atirudrabhishek at... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs Preview by Yahoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs
[FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and children agree with this decision? Also, the TMO should offer Cook a rajah position to take advantage of his philanthropic personality. David Lynch and John Hagelin where are you? Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html Watch the video Tim Cook will give away his fortune to charity on Yahoo Finance . Give it away now! Time Cook to donate fortune to charity View on finance.yahoo.com http://finance.yahoo.com/video/tim-cook-away-fortune-charity-173020872.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and children agree with this decision? Just when I think it really isn't possible for JR to get any less intelligent, he surprises me. Not only is he incapable of imagining a rich person deciding to share his wealth with others, he doesn't even know that the CEO of Apple is gay.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets
Ha ha. But did you read the article? A little more background: after the DLF published the 2 pilot studies on how TM affects PTSD in war refugees in Africa, they received inquiries from various groups tasked with handling the ongoing Disaster-that-is-Africa. [Basically, 100 million Africans are thought to have PTSD, so anything that offers such rapid relief to what is probably the foundational cause of much of the cycle of violence and greed in the region would be a Very Good Thing™] And so. these organizations wanted to know 1) how fast could the DLF's Africn PTSD Relief project http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html be scaled up to reach all of Africa? and 2) how much would it cost? And so, the DLF is acting as middle man between the TM organization and the United Nations and other groups to negotiate a deal to train relief workers as TM teachers. The UN workers would continue to be employees of the UN and would teach TM for free, much the same way that the DLF does in public schools. I don't know any of the financial details, but I'm sure that that is what the negotiations are about. By the way, none of these groups would dream of shelling out what will eventually be very large sums of money without doing their own research on TM and PTSD in the target populations and the first of these independently conducted studies has been submitted for review. I'm told it isn't nearly as dramatic as the DLF-funded studies, as it shows that it takes TWO months of TM practice for 90% of the PTSD subjects to become non-symptomatic, rather than only one month. Even so, the results of this and other studies in the pipeline are remarkable enough that the DLF is now projecting that by the end of 2018, ten million people will learn TM for free, taught by government and relief workers trained as TM teachers, teaching TM as part of their job description for their current employer. That will include relief workers, school counselors, prison guards and so on. So your little title change isn't relevant: the UN, should their own research justify it, would be paying for their own people to teach TM. The TM organization would be simply acting as a training and accreditation organization (with whatever details are required to make it work for both parties). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You seem to have mistyped the Subject line, so I corrected it for you. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. All in the mind The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the beneficial power of transcendental meditation. He says: “I started transcendental meditation in 1973 and have not missed a single meditation ever since. Twice a day, every day. It has given me effortless access to unlimited reserves of energy, creativity and happiness deep within.” After a chance meeting with fellow practitioner Bob Roth a decade ago, the pair started the David Lynch Foundation and have since helped hundreds of thousands of at-risk people using this form of meditation. Here Roth, the co-founder and executive director of the foundation, talks about its aim to help 100 million people in the next decade. Given the current surge in interest in mindfulness, now is the perfect time for spas to get involved he says. What’s the main purpose of the David Lynch Foundation? We’re a non-profit organisation, founded in 2005 by the film director David Lynch, dedicated to making transcendental meditation (TM) accessible to many different areas of the population. In the beginning, our focus was on helping at-risk children in low income urban schools to cope with the extreme stresses that they were facing. In less than 10 years, we’ve touched the lives of more than 500,000 students. Over time, our work has spread to a wider range of people, from the homeless to
Re: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade.
As I pointed out to Unc, should the projects happen as intended, it would be the United Nations and teh disaster relief NGOs (not to mention the governments of Brazil, Peru, and other countries negotiating to have their own employees trained as TM teachers) that would be paying for TM instruction. The TM organization would be serving as a training and accreditation organization. How they will work out details so that national-level organizations can handle the ongoing needs of 100 million new meditators is also obviously a consideration, but it is in the best interests of the relief agencies that might be involved to ensure that there is ongoing support for TM at the local level, so the negotiations should be relatively smooth -assuming that such organizations determine that TM is worth teaching, then obviously it is worth ensuring that people continue to practice it once the disaster is over, so it is in their best interest to see that there is a viable followup program available for new TMers after they leave. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : You know Americans are going to have to subsidize the cost to teach 100 million. I guess they can up the American initiation fee and make recertified teachers get recertified again. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. All in the mind The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the beneficial power of transcendental meditation. He says: “I started transcendental meditation in 1973 and have not missed a single meditation ever since. Twice a day, every day. It has given me effortless access to unlimited reserves of energy, creativity and happiness deep within.” After a chance meeting with fellow practitioner Bob Roth a decade ago, the pair started the David Lynch Foundation and have since helped hundreds of thousands of at-risk people using this form of meditation. Here Roth, the co-founder and executive director of the foundation, talks about its aim to help 100 million people in the next decade. Given the current surge in interest in mindfulness, now is the perfect time for spas to get involved he says. What’s the main purpose of the David Lynch Foundation? We’re a non-profit organisation, founded in 2005 by the film director David Lynch, dedicated to making transcendental meditation (TM) accessible to many different areas of the population. In the beginning, our focus was on helping at-risk children in low income urban schools to cope with the extreme stresses that they were facing. In less than 10 years, we’ve touched the lives of more than 500,000 students. Over time, our work has spread to a wider range of people, from the homeless to victims of domestic violence, war veterans with post traumatic stress disorder and HIV/AIDS sufferers. How did you meet David Lynch? I was organising a TM conference and David Lynch, who had been practising TM for around 30 years, was invited to attend. He heard the horror stories about at-risk youth – of kids who witnessed and experienced domestic violence and gangland shootings and were then expected to go to school and learn algebra. The idea of the foundation was born from this meeting and we created it soon after. How does TM differ from other forms of meditation? According to science, there are three basic approaches to meditation. The first is called ‘focused attention’, where you attempt to actively control your thoughts, clear your mind, or focus on your breath. This produces the gamma brainwaves that are associated with peak concentration. The second is ‘open monitoring’ which includes many mindfulness techniques, where you learn to observe your thoughts or emotions dispassionately. This produces theta brainwaves, which are very slow and present during the REM stages of sleep. Thirdly is ‘automatic self transcending’, which is transcendental meditation, where you learn to effortlessly transcend conscious thinking
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
So, you're claiming that Fred Lenz was the Last Incarnation of Vishnu, but JR's world is based on fictions? Go figure. We know that Lenz was a real person, but some may have doubts about the Vishnu guy, Barry. Maybe you could explain the process by which you know that Fred Lenz was Rama, the last incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Can you spell cognitive dissonance? Thanks. HIS BODY TURNED GOLD . . . . . . he began to shrink, then grow to tremendous heights. He raised his arms and a shower of energy rushed down onto us while lines of power pushed up through my spine. His body turned gold, then it turned into a doorway. It became an absence. I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. I felt myself spinning, floating, turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Obviously, I agree that JR's world is based on fictions that he has been told so many times that he now cannot differentiate them for fact. The very *concept* of fact is something he has lost touch with. I was trying to help him realize this by asking him to *explain* the process by which he thinks he knows the many things he claims to know. He pulled the cowardly Judy/Jim routine and skedaddled, so I doubt I'll hear from him again. Maybe you'll have better luck. As for Buckaroo Banzai, it is pretty much the quintessential cult film. (In the sense of having developed a cult following, that is, not in the sense of being about a cult, but at the same time it was one of our favorite films in the Rama cult, and we went to see it en masse many times.) It has been voted in several surveys The Film We Most Wanted To See A Sequel To But Didn't Get To, and with good reason. Excellent, over-the-top performances by John Lithgow and Christopher Lloyd, and more quotable one-liners than in any other movie we can imagine. My mention of What's in the big pink box? was a bit of a koan, in that we never really know for sure. We can guess that it's the device we see later projecting a message from the friendly Lectroids, but I don't think it was ever explicitly explained. The one true koan that we know was never explained was What's the watermelon for? :-) Here's a tremendous clip with Kevin Smith and John Lithgow and Peter Weller rapping about BB, followed by a few of my fave quotes from the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8R8wmlggwc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8R8wmlggwc Buckaroo Banzai http://www.imdb.com/name/nm693/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Hey, hey, hey, hey-now. Don't be mean; we don't have to be mean, cuz, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. Lord John Whorfin http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001475/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: History is-a made at night. Character is what you are in the dark. Perfect Tommy http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809095/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Pictures don't lie. Reno http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0785277/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: The hell they don't. I met my first wife that way. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086856/quotes?item=qt0259035 Lord John Whorfin http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001475/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Sealed with a curse as sharp as a knife. Doomed is your soul and damned is your life. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086856/quotes?item=qt0259039 New Jersey http://www.imdb.com/name/nm156/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Why is there a watermelon there? Reno http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0785277/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: I'll tell you later. Mission Control http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0673989/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Buckaroo, The White House wants to know is everything ok with the alien space craft from Planet 10 or should we just go ahead and destroy Russia? Buckaroo Banzai http://www.imdb.com/name/nm693/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Tell him yes on one and no on two. Mission Control http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0673989/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Which one was yes, go ahead and destroy Russia... or number 2? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086856/quotes?item=qt0259066 John O'Connor http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001704/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: They're only monkey-boys. We can crush them here on earth, Lord Whorfin. Lord John Whorfin http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001475/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: May I pass along my congratulations for your great interdimensional breakthrough. I am sure, in the miserable annals of the Earth, you will be duly enshrined. Perfect Tommy http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809095/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Emilio Lizardo. Wasn't he on TV once? Buckaroo Banzai http://www.imdb.com/name/nm693/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: You're thinking of Mr. Wizard. Reno http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0785277/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: Emilio Lizardo is a top scientist, dummkopf. Perfect Tommy http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0809095/?ref_=tt_trv_qu: So was Mr.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind of the Meditator
You can only measure what y ou have the equipment to measure. However, it's a truism that just because two things can be described teh same way at one level, doesn't mean that they are identifical. My favorite example is what happened to some British friends many decades ago... They got a sweetheart travel package to visit Nashville. Nashville, Florida, that is. Just because you can describe a city as Nashville doesn't mean it is the Nashville you were hoping to visit. Unfortunately, they actually got on the plane and landed before they discovered their mistake. The moral is: a label, pure awareness, that is described as being without thought, might not be referring to the same thing between two different meditation traditions. A two-word phrase may not provide you enough info to make a rationale choice any more than just knowing the name of the city without knowing the state it is in is enough to make rationale travel plans. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Great quotes. The TM researchers and movement seem quite desperate to prove a negative, even if they don't experience it. So, they co-opt the discussion by defining their particular alpha-coherence as the definition of a transcendence. That makes it real easy to win an argument between meditation practices. The question remains still as to whether the TM'ers with all their investment in fancy equipment are close to measuring the right thing. Evidently spirituality is way more than alpha-wave-coherence. They obviously are not able to measure what all is going on with a spirituality of a soul in the whole body-mind complex, commonly referred to as embodying the spiritual heart-being. Is that why TM'er are commonly thought of as heartless and in the head? 'Spock-like'? There was a longer thread on this over at The_Peak recently. The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 The Peak https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 The Peak is an ongoing conversation about our journey as human beings, upwards towards the pinnacle, and fulfillment of our existence; Enlightenm... View on groups.yahoo.com https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/the_peak/conversations/messages/3393 Preview by Yahoo From The_Peak, Thanks, good discernment extending this aspect of souls incarnating to 'origin of awareness' and a why or implication of incarnational life. Deferring here to my wife's experience with this from her career work with people as 'the Heart Field in addition to the Mental Field'.. She is quite eloquent on this from her experience with it. The Divine qualities of the Heart evidently are not linear like mental fields of the mind. In the mind those values are linear and thoughts. In the heart they are inward divine fields that extend out as field effects in life. Long-term meditators may have bright open upper mental fields but as a cultivated awakened super-mental purity which can be dry, calm and not blissful. An implication by contrast is that spiritually people die as they have lived, either in the head or heart. As people die you can feel the cultivated value in balance of what is mental and heart being. Meditators can be peaceful but also cold or dry simply in how people have lived their lives. This speaks to what is spiritually possible from cold and calm to expansive and open to a bliss experience as what can be done to cultivate larger spiritual values. For instance, Divine Friendliness, Compassion or Happiness is a relationship which is luscious in the energy field where it is activated. ..where the transcending happens in the heart. You can find this in some meditators as they have lived their lives. More than peace it is love. Brain waves do not necessarily translate in to heart-being but when 'calm' gets activated by the mechanism of the heart chakra. You can see super developed mental fields that are cold and serene but without a lusciousness or love. Soul-self is bliss-self in the incarnational light body. The soul in life wants to 'dip its toe' in to incarnation. The spark of jivan is in the heart chakra and when the heart stops the soul heads out. You can feel it as it happens when you are there. It is phenomenon as it happens while it happens if you are open to it. It is a miraculous coming and going in life. Some people are naturally cultivated in divine qualities of the heart, some have cultivated in life divine qualities of friendliness, compassion and happiness in the living of their lives. So people are afraid when without a fullness of the field of love there this is not cultivated in capacity the experience of love in the heart. Without activation of the divine qualities in the heart people are lonely otherwise
[FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets
This is excellent news, although of course it is not much use directing it to Turquoise B or MJ, neither of whom, despite their protestations to the contrary, is remotely interested in the truth. They actually remind me of political zealots, like the right-wing Republicans who oppose everything Obama says or does simply because it is Obama. There is no thought process involved, no analysis, just blind ideology and a willful, determined ignorance of the facts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Ha ha. But did you read the article? A little more background: after the DLF published the 2 pilot studies on how TM affects PTSD in war refugees in Africa, they received inquiries from various groups tasked with handling the ongoing Disaster-that-is-Africa. [Basically, 100 million Africans are thought to have PTSD, so anything that offers such rapid relief to what is probably the foundational cause of much of the cycle of violence and greed in the region would be a Very Good Thing™] And so. these organizations wanted to know 1) how fast could the DLF's Africn PTSD Relief project http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html be scaled up to reach all of Africa? and 2) how much would it cost? And so, the DLF is acting as middle man between the TM organization and the United Nations and other groups to negotiate a deal to train relief workers as TM teachers. The UN workers would continue to be employees of the UN and would teach TM for free, much the same way that the DLF does in public schools. I don't know any of the financial details, but I'm sure that that is what the negotiations are about. By the way, none of these groups would dream of shelling out what will eventually be very large sums of money without doing their own research on TM and PTSD in the target populations and the first of these independently conducted studies has been submitted for review. I'm told it isn't nearly as dramatic as the DLF-funded studies, as it shows that it takes TWO months of TM practice for 90% of the PTSD subjects to become non-symptomatic, rather than only one month. Even so, the results of this and other studies in the pipeline are remarkable enough that the DLF is now projecting that by the end of 2018, ten million people will learn TM for free, taught by government and relief workers trained as TM teachers, teaching TM as part of their job description for their current employer. That will include relief workers, school counselors, prison guards and so on. So your little title change isn't relevant: the UN, should their own research justify it, would be paying for their own people to teach TM. The TM organization would be simply acting as a training and accreditation organization (with whatever details are required to make it work for both parties). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You seem to have mistyped the Subject line, so I corrected it for you. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. All in the mind The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the beneficial power of transcendental meditation. He says: “I started transcendental meditation in 1973 and have not missed a single meditation ever since. Twice a day, every day. It has given me effortless access to unlimited reserves of energy, creativity and happiness deep within.” After a chance meeting with fellow practitioner Bob Roth a decade ago, the pair started the David Lynch Foundation and have since helped hundreds of thousands of at-risk people using this form of meditation. Here Roth, the co-founder and executive director of the foundation, talks about its aim to help 100 million people in the next decade. Given the current surge in interest in mindfulness, now is the perfect time for spas to get involved he says. What’s the main purpose
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Apparently Barry believes in Buddhas, reincarnation, karma and apparently he also believes in the Tibetan 'bardo state. So, what is the difference between believing in Buddhas, Bodhisattvas and Tibetan demons, and believing in God and Christian angels and Satan? Can you explain cognitive dissonance? Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : JR, I don't think you get it. If you do your own research, you find out things, if you just accept what people tell you, you don't find the answers. Exactly what are the same questions Barry has been asking for years? He seems to have come to his own conclusions about many things. If you say to someone 'You've been told the answer', then accuse them of not accepting it, the reason for not accepting it is 1) they intend to research it further before coming to a conclusion or 2) they have researched it and found that what they were told was mistaken, or unprovable, or just nonsense. Non sequitur. I think your brain is scrambled because to do your own research means you cannot first believe what someone tells you. You just use it as a spring board for an investigation, a starting point. What you are told is not the finish line. You are making the fatal assumption that when someone investigates what they are told they will come to the same conclusion as what they were told, and this is the Achilles heel of bad reasoning, that someone will always find what you think they should find. Non sequitur. If I think something is correct, that does not mean that I am not mistaken. If you want to counter Barry's comments and arguments, you have to respond to them in a reasoned way that demonstrates you know what you are talking about. It is not clear that you do. Non sequitur. When dealing with facts, the situation is a bit easier than dealing with abstractions like 'enlightenment' for which most information is not factual, for one is discussing something that literally cannot be described with any real precision. That might lead one to conclude it does not really exist. Suppose that were true? Suppose that 'good' and 'evil' do not really exist, but that those ideas were just something you were told and you bought into the ideas? How would you begin to research this, to find out if they did nor did not exist? How would you go about finding out if enlightenment exists? What are the requirements that would have to be satisfied for finding out if enlightenment exists? Have you found the answer yet? For if not, you would not know that it exists. Non sequitur. In this thread Barry asked the following questions, and they do not seem to be questions he has asked for many years: 'What's in the big pink box, man?' (a quotation from a movie) Now, JR, please tell me. Was that good or evil? (a question he asked you about the body count in the Iraq wars) Non sequitur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Pastor Barry, You've been asking the same questions for many years now. You've been told the answer, but you don't listen. You should do your own research and find out for yourself the true answer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 9000 MAHARISHI VEDIC PANDITS CHANTING
Get real! Deal with it and move on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I wonder if the person who sends this stuff thinks that somehow one of us TM apostates will have some sort of epiphany and come running back to the fold YOU WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED INSIDE A MAHARISHI GOLDEN DOME OR ANYWHERE NEAR THE ASHRAM KITCHEN. of Dome zombies? Non sequitur. From: email4you mikemail4you@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 9000 MAHARISHI VEDIC PANDITS CHANTING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs 1331 Maharishi Vedic Pandits Chanting Atirudrabhishek at... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs Preview by Yahoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I wonder if the person who sends this stuff thinks that somehow one of us TM apostates will have some sort of epiphany and come running back to the fold of Dome zombies? From: email4you mikemail4you@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 9000 MAHARISHI VEDIC PANDITS CHANTING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs 1331 Maharishi Vedic Pandits Chanting Atirudrabhishek at... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs Preview by Yahoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUxrHLuoXs
Re: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade.
Oh well, I guess they'll need another excuse to do it then. From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. As I pointed out to Unc, should the projects happen as intended, it would be the United Nations and teh disaster relief NGOs (not to mention the governments of Brazil, Peru, and other countries negotiating to have their own employees trained as TM teachers) that would be paying for TM instruction. The TM organization would be serving as a training and accreditation organization. How they will work out details so that national-level organizations can handle the ongoing needs of 100 million new meditators is also obviously a consideration, but it is in the best interests of the relief agencies that might be involved to ensure that there is ongoing support for TM at the local level, so the negotiations should be relatively smooth -assuming that such organizations determine that TM is worth teaching, then obviously it is worth ensuring that people continue to practice it once the disaster is over, so it is in their best interest to see that there is a viable followup program available for new TMers after they leave. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : You know Americans are going to have to subsidize the cost to teach 100 million. I guess they can up the American initiation fee and make recertified teachers get recertified again. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. | All in the mind | The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the beneficial power of transcendental meditation. He says: “I started transcendental meditation in 1973 and have not missed a single meditation ever since. Twice a day, every day. It has given me effortless access to unlimited reserves of energy, creativity and happiness deep within.”After a chance meeting with fellow practitioner Bob Roth a decade ago, the pair started the David Lynch Foundation and have since helped hundreds of thousands of at-risk people using this form of meditation. Here Roth, the co-founder and executive director of the foundation, talks about its aim to help 100 million people in the next decade. Given the current surge in interest in mindfulness, now is the perfect time for spas to get involved he says. | | What’s the main purpose of the David Lynch Foundation? We’re a non-profit organisation, founded in 2005 by the film director David Lynch, dedicated to making transcendental meditation (TM) accessible to many different areas of the population. In the beginning, our focus was on helping at-risk children in low income urban schools to cope with the extreme stresses that they were facing. In less than 10 years, we’ve touched the lives of more than 500,000 students. Over time, our work has spread to a wider range of people, from the homeless to victims of domestic violence, war veterans with post traumatic stress disorder and HIV/AIDS sufferers. How did you meet David Lynch? I was organising a TM conference and David Lynch, who had been practising TM for around 30 years, was invited to attend.He heard the horror stories about at-risk youth – of kids who witnessed and experienced domestic violence and gangland shootings and were then expected to go to school and learn algebra. The idea of the foundation was born from this meeting and we created it soon after.How does TM differ from other forms of meditation? According to science, there are three basic approaches to meditation. The first is called ‘focused attention’, where you attempt to actively control your thoughts, clear your mind, or focus on your breath. This produces the gamma brainwaves that are associated with peak concentration.The second is ‘open monitoring’ which includes many mindfulness techniques, where you learn to observe your thoughts or emotions dispassionately. This produces theta brainwaves,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets
You may be correct. WIth negotiations going on with the United Nations, the governments of Brazil and Peru, various NGOs, etc., the flaws you metnion will certainly come to light very fast and sink any such plans. On the other hand, what if they negotiations actually go through Will you rethink your attitude or will you simply assume that all the people involved have somehow missed the facts that you say are irrefutable and totally daming? L. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I forgot to mention, I have in fact looked at facts, many of them presented here on FFL. And not just those stories posted by Sal, Curtis and Barry. I perused the archives of FFL since its inception and those things I found, posted by many who no longer post here, along with my personal experiences, and my conversations with some people who grew up in the Movement plus my own common sense has lead me to the inescapable conclusion that TM is not the fabulous technique it is billed as being, Marshy was a brilliant orator and businessman and a lair, con artist and fraud all at the same time, TM in many cases and circumstances is actually dangerous to those who practice it, and the Movement itself is an utterly fake and fraudulent organization. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets This is excellent news, although of course it is not much use directing it to Turquoise B or MJ, neither of whom, despite their protestations to the contrary, is remotely interested in the truth. They actually remind me of political zealots, like the right-wing Republicans who oppose everything Obama says or does simply because it is Obama. There is no thought process involved, no analysis, just blind ideology and a willful, determined ignorance of the facts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Ha ha. But did you read the article? A little more background: after the DLF published the 2 pilot studies on how TM affects PTSD in war refugees in Africa, they received inquiries from various groups tasked with handling the ongoing Disaster-that-is-Africa. [Basically, 100 million Africans are thought to have PTSD, so anything that offers such rapid relief to what is probably the foundational cause of much of the cycle of violence and greed in the region would be a Very Good Thing™] And so. these organizations wanted to know 1) how fast could the DLF's Africn PTSD Relief project http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html http://www.ptsdreliefnow.org/the-research.html be scaled up to reach all of Africa? and 2) how much would it cost? And so, the DLF is acting as middle man between the TM organization and the United Nations and other groups to negotiate a deal to train relief workers as TM teachers. The UN workers would continue to be employees of the UN and would teach TM for free, much the same way that the DLF does in public schools. I don't know any of the financial details, but I'm sure that that is what the negotiations are about. By the way, none of these groups would dream of shelling out what will eventually be very large sums of money without doing their own research on TM and PTSD in the target populations and the first of these independently conducted studies has been submitted for review. I'm told it isn't nearly as dramatic as the DLF-funded studies, as it shows that it takes TWO months of TM practice for 90% of the PTSD subjects to become non-symptomatic, rather than only one month. Even so, the results of this and other studies in the pipeline are remarkable enough that the DLF is now projecting that by the end of 2018, ten million people will learn TM for free, taught by government and relief workers trained as TM teachers, teaching TM as part of their job description for their current employer. That will include relief workers, school counselors, prison guards and so on. So your little title change isn't relevant: the UN, should their own research justify it, would be paying for their own people to teach TM. The TM organization would be simply acting as a training and accreditation organization (with whatever details are required to make it work for both parties). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You seem to have mistyped the Subject line, so I corrected it for you. From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
From: jr_esq@... FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and children agree with this decision? --- turquoiseb@... wrote : Just when I think it really isn't possible for JR to get any less intelligent, he surprises me. Not only is he incapable of imagining a rich person deciding to share his wealth with others, he doesn't even know that the CEO of Apple is gay. This could explain how Winthrop and Albert worked on the non-weapon part, of an exclusively weapons project in which, one of them was denied security clearance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Semitic religions, that is Judeo-christian-muslim worldview is basicaly literalist. Most of what is written there are interperted literaly. Eastern religions, that is Hindu-Buddhist philosophy is more metaphorical, allegorical, symbolic and figurative. This leads to confusion and misunderstanding, when both groups read each other's literature. Could it be JohnR is a literalist? --- anartaxius@... wrote : Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up currently. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he probably sees nothing wrong with. When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof scriptures such as the Gita. Bzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them. Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO. The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have done research on the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is seeing -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition. While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that any of these seeings have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-) I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some mechanism by which he thinks proof could be offered of Krishna's existence. If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he *does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an authority said so. In other words, his only proof is the word Maharishisez. Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's paradox, I don't know what is. :-) As for the answer to What's in the big pink box, man? that is as much of a koan as it was when posed in the movie Buckaroo Banzai. Me, I kinda doubt it's enlightenment. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Living Communally: Wozniak: Future of AI is Scary
Hy-Vee Foods, “Employee Owned” is another good life-cycle example of this potential within cooperative living if not actively looked out for by a level of transparency and civil society. Employee-owned with a few people at the top management cutting hours and benefits of their working not-quite full-time employees to pay profits for the salaries of boards and managers on top. As one full-time employee there observed after work hours were cut to less than full time, “ 'Employee Owned' by five people at the top..” Thanks, co-ops sound very ideal towards a sharing. Though sounds further in time a lot like any organizations where things starts off with a membership with one-person-one-vote then you get an administrative board elected. And it becomes an oligarchy of sorts. Like what happened with the New Pioneer Food Coop in Iowa City. Now a few high-paid administrator/store-managers working at the board level over the membership, high priced food, and a lot of lowly-paid working-poor employees to pay for the administrator managers. Same thing for this Heartland 'Cooperative' that just built this massive multi-million dollar facility for the simple business of unloading and re-loading grain on to a monopoly-owned rail-line here with slim chance of pay-back. Small group of manager-class running it. Pretty evidently a project that an administrative-team put together for itself aside from the membership understanding the economics of it so far as pay-back. The membership proly would have been better off with that capital returned in dividend. But of course there is no job in that for the manager-class. Seems co-ops often just go the route of corporations anyway. ..Good for a few people at the top once it gets going. Sort of like the Standing Committee over communist China. Putin's Oligarchy. Or, the TM movement now. -Buck, a meditator member in a meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : Buck, you will getter a good understanding from this link below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative In a cooperative entity, you have only one vote no matter how many shares you own. This is one essential difference form corporate entity. Their goal is minimal profits. Though, there are some cooperative entities that are non-profit and yet do business. --- dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks, really interesting thoughtful posts. These are secular cooperatives you mention? Where people live together communally? Shared-goods other than just the business? Housing? Meals? Health Insurance/care? The aged? Non-spiritual? What keeps them together other than their business model? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : 'State Communism' was tried and it failed miserably for a number of reasons. It was too simplistic and childish. No balance between the individual and the collective. First of all, a distinction should be made between 'essential goods' and 'non-essential goods'. Secondly, the success of cooperative entities like Mondragon cooperative in Spain and Amul cooperative in india proves that 'non-state socialism' is as effective as 'non-state capitalism'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co-operative_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co-operative_Group The fact that these 'cooperative entities' are able to compete with 'corporate entities', and exist with them side by side, even do business with each other, proves that there is space for both approaches. Non-state socialism can exist along with non-state capitalism. --- noozguru@... wrote : Communism is an interesting idea that has never been tried. What some people think are communist countries are family businesses. North Korea as an example. On 03/25/2015 04:45 AM, jason_green2@... mailto:jason_green2@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Maintain a distinction between 'generating wealth' and 'making money'. Pro-market capitalism generates wealth. Pro-business capitalism only makes money for a few. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery ~ Winston Churchill Under communism, there is no incentive to supply people with anything they need or want, including safety. ~ George Reisman, (Capitalism : A Treatise on Economics 1996). The trouble is with socialism, which resembles a form of mental illness more than it does a philosophy. Socialists get bees in their bonnets. And because they chronically lack any critical faculty to examine and evaluate their ideas, and because they are pathologically unwilling to consider the opinions of others, and most of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
If Cook follows in Gates' and Buffett's shoes then he will join the ranks of a
couple of snot nose bastards who make a big show out of heppin' folks when
what they are really doing is help themselves and their friends take over the
world. Fuck all those lying sobs.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:53 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tim Cook Wants to Give Fortune Away
One wonders why some rich people are doing this. Are they in tremendous
pressure from the IRS and others from keeping their wealth? Does his wife and
children agree with this decision?
Also, the TMO should offer Cook a rajah position to take advantage of his
philanthropic personality.
David Lynch and John Hagelin where are you?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
JR, Xeno called you out more specifically on this, pointing out that you haven't even *tried* to deal with the questions I posed to you. I'll stick with calling you an abject coward for falling back on a combination of the Judy Stein Routine and the Jim Flanegin Routine. In the first routine, like its namesake, the intellectual coward (that's YOU, JR) tries to weasel out of an argument he realizes he isn't smart enough to participate in (much less win) by declaring that he's already answered it. He hasn't, of course, no more than Judy ever had when she pulled this ploy. But since the coward is used to speaking to people as lost in folly as himself, he thinks no one will notice. This is just to let you know that we notice. In the second routine, having taken the coward's route and refused to come up with any explanation of HOW he could possibly know the things he claims to know, the coward pulls a Jim Flanegin and implies that he's superior to the other person because he knows the true answer. Too bad you're too cowardly to engage in actual discussion and debate, JR. If you did, you might have actually learned something from Xeno, who was being compassionately patient with you and your evasions. As it is, you'll probably die still being as ignorant as you are now. Your call. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan? Pastor Barry, You've been asking the same questions for many years now. You've been told the answer, but you don't listen. You should do your own research and find out for yourself the true answer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I am aware of the problems with establishing the historical existence of many religious figures, Xeno, but that isn't what I was getting at with JR. I have noticed in him a tendency that I doubt he is aware of -- or, if he is, he probably sees nothing wrong with. When claiming to believe in the existence of Krishna or similar figures from religious myth here in the past, he has cited as proof scriptures such as the Gita. Bzzt. Thanks for playing, but no win. Religious scriptures are NOT factual, no matter how many people believe they are. Scholars often don't even know the *century* many of them were written in, much less who wrote them. Best to consider them creative fiction written with the intent to inspire IMO. The only *other* mechanism by which JR can claim to have done research on the question of whether someone like Krishna existed in real life or not is seeing -- meaning some kind of subjective realization or vision or intuition. While I admit that such things exist -- subjectively -- I do NOT admit that any of these seeings have anything to do with fact. If they did, more people who claim to be able to see the future would be millionaires. :-) I was just hoping to see JR try to actually posit and then defend some mechanism by which he thinks proof could be offered of Krishna's existence. If he actually tried, it might wake him up to the fact that the only reason he *does* believe in such silliness is that someone he holds as an authority said so. In other words, his only proof is the word Maharishisez. Now, as for Schroedinger's cat, I for one have no problem with someone being both alive and dead at the same time. Just look at Keith Richards -- the guy has looked like death on a stick since the 1960s, yet he still manages to tour and play some pretty good guitar. If that's not an example of Schroedinger's paradox, I don't know what is. :-) As for the answer to What's in the big pink box, man? that is as much of a koan as it was when posed in the movie Buckaroo Banzai. Me, I kinda doubt it's enlightenment. :-) From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan? Establishing the historicity of various religious characters today is pretty much impossible. Of the following, Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Shankara, only the latter two have much evidence that would just suggest they existed, primarily because they are a bit more recent. It seems more logical with the lack of definite evidence that these names can be used as 'bookmarks' that delineate a certain point in the development of a tradition, a personification of what had transpired up to that point. If we were to take the TMO holy tradition, only Shankara, Brahmanda Saraswati, Maharishi, and King Tony have a believable amount of evidence, and only the last three have really good historical evidence as to their existence. If we assume enlightenment exists, we could say that the 'tradition' of enlightenment is something generated in one's own mind as a means to remove the delusion that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wozniak: Future of AI is Scary
Bhairitu, you are plain nuts. To solve a problem, one has to look at the root of the problem. For some peculiar reason, you are refusing to address this. You keep putting the blame on capitalism, when the real villain is consumerism. You can easily defeat consumerism with a simple progressive consumption tax regime. This idea deserves to be sold. All radical ideas need some selling the beginning because mind has a tendency to become dogmatic. I wonder why you reject this idea? The peoples party in Norway get 90% of its income from the government. A lot of indians try to invest in US itself. The Chinese on the other hand, dutifuly send money home. I was in kerala in 1998. It became really bad in the early 2000's. Kerala was known for 'general public strikes' called bandhs. Even in the 80's it was difficult for private businesses. Old timers tell me that things were very different in the 1950's and 60's. It was far more self-sufficient. On 03/27/2015 01:43 PM, jason_green2@... mailto:jason_green2@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Actually, this is an old issue. Remember Standard Oil which was broken into 6 companies. Artifically big banks can be broken into manageable units. --- noozguru@... wrote : Mergers and acquisitions are a craze in the business community. When our company went public we were encouraged to buy some smaller companies. Big mistake as we were having problems managing our company as it was. Then there was the blues of the people who worked in the smaller company who didn't want the owner to sell out and liked working there as it was. IBM tends to spin off successful units as they did with Lexmark and Lenovo. That probably was because of an anti-trust suit against them years ago. When you merge a company duplicate positions in the acquired company get laid off. So it creates more unemployment. The big banks are out of control and malicious. Try arguing with their case workers as I did for a mistake they made. Kerala at one stage had become so moribund, even rice had to be imported from neighboring provinces. Only after the unruly unions were reined in, things began to get better again. --- noozguru@... wrote : When was this? I was there in 1996. Indians in US send no shit home. Remitances from the middle-east give kerala a financial flexibility. --- noozguru@... wrote : Really? I know Indians that send money home. I think I told you a hundred times that the political funding issue needs to be sorted out first. First things first. --- noozguru@... wrote : You can tell me all you want but I won't buy what you're selling. :-D It was the East India company that wrecked india from 1757 to 1857. The british govt took over in 1857, but it was too late. --- noozguru@... wrote : East India Company was a British company. The same one our founding fathers rebelled against. --- noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You so don't understand. I'm not advocating socialism just condemning lassiez-faire capitalism or capitalists gone wild! Surely you don't think that too big to fail banks are a good thing, do you? Or have you been brainwashed by some business school bullshit, perhaps MUM economics? And what did you think of Kerala when you were there? :-D BTW, lots of Indians works all over the world and send money back home. India was under foreign domination for centuries and when they got the country back the fascists took over. They're still trying to sort that out. The country is too big and needs to be more state thus regionally focused. It's still run by oligarchs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to empty 100 million wallets
You seem to have mistyped the Subject line, so I corrected it for you. From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 4:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The David Lynch Foundation... Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. http://www.spabusiness.com/detail.cfm?pagetype=featuresonlinefeatureid=29642mag=Spa%20Businesslinktype=story Autoloading is not working but the link seems to be valid. | All in the mind | The David Lynch Foundation helps people overcome extreme stress by using the power of meditation. Its goal is to touch 100 million lives in the next decade. Julie Cramer talks to co-founder Bob Roth to find out more David Lynch is at the centre of much media attention of late as he starts filming a conclusion to cult TV series Twin Peaks after a 25 year break. The US director is famous for his surrealist style in films such as The Elephant Man, Mulholland Drive and Eraserhead. What many people may not know, is that he’s also a firm believer in the beneficial power of transcendental meditation. He says: “I started transcendental meditation in 1973 and have not missed a single meditation ever since. Twice a day, every day. It has given me effortless access to unlimited reserves of energy, creativity and happiness deep within.”After a chance meeting with fellow practitioner Bob Roth a decade ago, the pair started the David Lynch Foundation and have since helped hundreds of thousands of at-risk people using this form of meditation. Here Roth, the co-founder and executive director of the foundation, talks about its aim to help 100 million people in the next decade. Given the current surge in interest in mindfulness, now is the perfect time for spas to get involved he says. | | What’s the main purpose of the David Lynch Foundation? We’re a non-profit organisation, founded in 2005 by the film director David Lynch, dedicated to making transcendental meditation (TM) accessible to many different areas of the population. In the beginning, our focus was on helping at-risk children in low income urban schools to cope with the extreme stresses that they were facing. In less than 10 years, we’ve touched the lives of more than 500,000 students. Over time, our work has spread to a wider range of people, from the homeless to victims of domestic violence, war veterans with post traumatic stress disorder and HIV/AIDS sufferers. How did you meet David Lynch? I was organising a TM conference and David Lynch, who had been practising TM for around 30 years, was invited to attend.He heard the horror stories about at-risk youth – of kids who witnessed and experienced domestic violence and gangland shootings and were then expected to go to school and learn algebra. The idea of the foundation was born from this meeting and we created it soon after.How does TM differ from other forms of meditation? According to science, there are three basic approaches to meditation. The first is called ‘focused attention’, where you attempt to actively control your thoughts, clear your mind, or focus on your breath. This produces the gamma brainwaves that are associated with peak concentration.The second is ‘open monitoring’ which includes many mindfulness techniques, where you learn to observe your thoughts or emotions dispassionately. This produces theta brainwaves, which are very slow and present during the REM stages of sleep.Thirdly is ‘automatic self transcending’, which is transcendental meditation, where you learn to effortlessly transcend conscious thinking to achieve a profound state of calm, of inner wakefulness. It’s like diving underneath a choppy ocean to the calm waters beneath. In this state, deeply relaxing alpha brainwaves are present. Because of its simplicity and naturalness TM is the easiest to learn – even a 10-year-old can practise it. What are the benefits of TM? In a society where there’s an epidemic of stress, TM helps people achieve a profound state of rest at will. It’s been shown to instantly drop cortisol levels by 30 per cent – which is more than we get from a good night’s sleep. There’s also evidence that TM reduces high blood pressure as effectively as medication, reduces cholesterol, atherosclerosis and risk of stroke; and reduces anxiety, depression and insomnia.In addition, much research indicates that TM improves memory, creativity and problem solving. It wakes up the brain!How did you first discover TM? I was at the University of Berkeley in California, in the 1960s. It was a time of riots, strikes and anti-war demos. Students were being shot and tanks were parked outside.I wasn’t a hippie or a druggie but I was looking for a natural way to overcome the intense pressures of going to school full time, working full time and dealing with the social upheaval all around me. A good friend who I trusted suggested I try TM. I’m a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Obviously, I agree that JR's world is based on fictions that he has been told so many times that he now cannot differentiate them for fact. The very *concept* of fact is something he has lost touch with. I was trying to help him realize this by asking him to *explain* the process by which he thinks he knows the many things he claims to know. He pulled the cowardly Judy/Jim routine and skedaddled, so I doubt I'll hear from him again. Maybe you'll have better luck. As for Buckaroo Banzai, it is pretty much the quintessential cult film. (In the sense of having developed a cult following, that is, not in the sense of being about a cult, but at the same time it was one of our favorite films in the Rama cult, and we went to see it en masse many times.) It has been voted in several surveys The Film We Most Wanted To See A Sequel To But Didn't Get To, and with good reason. Excellent, over-the-top performances by John Lithgow and Christopher Lloyd, and more quotable one-liners than in any other movie we can imagine. My mention of What's in the big pink box? was a bit of a koan, in that we never really know for sure. We can guess that it's the device we see later projecting a message from the friendly Lectroids, but I don't think it was ever explicitly explained. The one true koan that we know was never explained was What's the watermelon for? :-) Here's a tremendous clip with Kevin Smith and John Lithgow and Peter Weller rapping about BB, followed by a few of my fave quotes from the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8R8wmlggwc Buckaroo Banzai:Hey, hey, hey, hey-now. Don't be mean; we don't have to be mean, cuz, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. Lord John Whorfin:History is-a made at night. Character is what you are in the dark. Perfect Tommy:Pictures don't lie. Reno:The hell they don't. I met my first wife that way. Lord John Whorfin:Sealed with a curse as sharp as a knife. Doomed is your soul and damned is your life. New Jersey:Why is there a watermelon there? Reno:I'll tell you later. Mission Control:Buckaroo, The White House wants to know is everything ok with the alien space craft from Planet 10 or should we just go ahead and destroy Russia? Buckaroo Banzai:Tell him yes on one and no on two. Mission Control:Which one was yes, go ahead and destroy Russia... or number 2? John O'Connor:They're only monkey-boys. We can crush them here on earth, Lord Whorfin. Lord John Whorfin:May I pass along my congratulations for your great interdimensional breakthrough. I am sure, in the miserable annals of the Earth, you will be duly enshrined. Perfect Tommy:Emilio Lizardo. Wasn't he on TV once? Buckaroo Banzai:You're thinking of Mr. Wizard. Reno:Emilio Lizardo is a top scientist, dummkopf. Perfect Tommy:So was Mr. Wizard. Lord John Whorfin:Where are we going? The Red Lectroids:Planet Ten! Lord John Whorfin:When? The Red Lectroids:Real soon! John Bigboote:It's not my goddamn planet. Understand, monkey boy? Lord John Whorfin:Laugh-a while you can, monkey-boy. Overhead announcement at psychiatric hospital:Lithium is no longer available on credit. Lord John Whorfin:Home... home is where you wear your hat... I feel so breakup, I wanna go home. Yoyodyne intercom announcement:The only joy is the joy of duty. Work... work... work. and finally, a line clearly written for Judy: Lectroid:We are not in the Eighth dimension, we are over New Jersey. Hope is not lost. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan? Religious scriptures can contain some mention of facts, but usually they seem to be on the order of say the mention of the Kennedy assassination in the Illuminatus! triology of Shea Wilson, where there is quite a lot of mention of historical people in an otherwise unbelievable story. There is more historical information available for Pontius Pilate than for Jesus. JR's view of the world does not seem to rest much on factual data, and seems to lack an underpinning of basic logic. Religious scriptures and apologetics basically just want to convince you of something, and there is nothing I see wrong in that, but buyer beware. Our societies tend not to give us the tools to think critically. The Netherlands has been a place where free thinking has had a better hold than in most, but I am ignorant of how well that is holding up currently. I don't remember the pink box in Buckaroo Banzai, but it has been years and years since I saw that film. One year, probably in the min-1980s, I was talking to my sister on the phone. She was travelling and in a motel or hotel somewhere, and she said 'I am watching the strangest movie I have ever seen'; after a few questions I was able determine she was watching Buckaroo Banzai. You had to have lived in the late 40s and
[FairfieldLife] Why you might want to buy a coloring book ... for yourself
Johanna Basford's adult coloring book, 'Secret Garden: An Inky Treasure Hunt and Coloring Book,' is No. 2 on Amazon's Top 100 book list. Is coloring just a trend or actually an effective tool for dealing with stress? By Samantha Laine, Staff Writer March 27, 2015 Stress is a constant companion for many people in the 21st century. We look to exercise, diet, family, and friends as potential outlets to help us unwind. But have you tried coloring? Currently on Amazon’s Top 100 book list are two tomes that fall under a surprising genre: adult coloring books. The artist who created both, Johanna Basford, said she first pitched the idea to her publishers before coloring as an adult was a trend. Her first book, “Secret Garden: An Inky Treasure Hunt and Coloring Book,” was published in 2013, has already sold 1.4 million copies, and is currently No. 2 on Amazon's Top 100 book list. Its sequel, “Enchanted Forest: An Inky Quest and Coloring Book,” is also a success, and she is currently working on a third. Gizmodo.com asked Ms. Basford why she thinks adult coloring books are successful. She gave three reasons: coloring provides a creative outlet, it allows you to zone out, and it brings you back to a place of simplicity. “A blank sheet of paper or an empty canvas can be daunting, but a coloring book acts as a bit of a buffer in this situation,” she told Gizmodo. “Chances are the last time you spent some time coloring you didn't have a mortgage, a horrible boss, or a worries about climate change.” So is there truth to this? Psychologists have found that coloring does indeed have positive effects on participants’ mental health. In the early 20th century, psychologist Carl Jung experimented with the effects of coloring. He used mandalas, circular designs with concentric shapes that originated in India and are often used in meditation. Today, coloring hits on another trend known as mindfulness, the act of being aware or conscious of what is going on around oneself. Psychologies magazine discusses author Mark Robert Waldman’s insight into mindfulness, and how active meditation allows individuals to focus on a simple, repetitive task. “Concentrating this way replaces negative thoughts and creates a state of peace, and many people who have a difficult time with concentrative meditation can find this easier. This gentle activity where you choose the colors to create your picture and the repetitive action of coloring it in focuses the brain on the present, blocking out any intrusive thoughts,” the article explains. Studies have also found a positive link between creativity and productivity in adults. A study at San Francisco State University found that those who partake in creative activities outside of work are better at dealing with stress than those who do not. The study also found that work performance improves. “I recommend it as a relaxation technique,” psychologist Antoni Martínez told The Huffington Post. “We can use it to enter into a more creative, freer state ... I recommend it in a quiet environment, even with chill music. Let the color and the lines flow.” Why you might want to buy a coloring book ... for yourself http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself Why you might want to buy a coloring book ... for yourse... http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself Johanna Basford's adult coloring book, 'Secret Garden: An Inky Treasure Hunt and Coloring Bo... http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Culture-Cafe/2015/0327/Why-you-might-want-to-buy-a-coloring-book-for-yourself Preview by Yahoo
