[FairfieldLife] India finally learns how to do some very decent CGI

2015-06-08 Thread Duveyoung
Baahubali - The Beginning | Official Trailer | Prabhas, Rana Daggubati, SS 
Rajamouli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NQRhE772b0

  
Haven't seen or read reviews -- trailer looks awesome.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Maybe Rick gave Buck the job to learn how he would fail.

On 06/08/2015 10:44 AM, jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:




  Allowing Buck to moderate is a bad idea. He dishes out the
  same Kool-Aid.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GfG0ofh8-MM/VXQ-eaKldPI/A_A/SKumQYyjUYs/s910/Kool_Aid_1956.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GfG0ofh8-MM/VXQ-eaKldPI/A_A/SKumQYyjUYs/s910/Kool_Aid_1956.jpg



--- jamesalan735@... wrote :

*Doug Hamilton has volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation 
to ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s guidelines and no more.*


He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck alter-ego.

Click on the link below to see a sample of how Doug Hamilton has 
commonly used  FFL over the years. This is from a few weeks ago.  
Posts such as this are interspersed with incessant whining about how 
FFL is inappropriately run.


In the hiring business, a common phrase is Hire for attitude, train 
for skill.  Well, I doubt if there will be any training for skill in 
this moderator position. Based on my observations of his approach to 
FFL, I don't see that Doug has either the attitude or the capacity to 
'moderate' himself or FFL.


However, the deed is done, and I guess only time will tell.


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--- rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote


---dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
–JaiGuruYou



It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church.

Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to 
do it. With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the 
time. I believe in very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think 
the “anything goes” nature of it has contributed to its success and 
longevity. But I think we are obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s 
guidelines. Theoretically, frequent violation of those guidelines 
could get the group shut down. *Doug Hamilton has volunteered to 
moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s 
guidelines and no more.*He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a 
restriction of their freedom of speech, but different types of speech 
are appropriate in different contexts, and again, in the context of a 
Yahoo group, we are obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m 
going to try this and see how it goes. If Doug abuses his authority 
and/or fails to moderate fairly and objectively, I will revoke his 
moderator status.




--- turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :

Sad news.

Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick 
insist on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this.


I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see 
things that aren't really there.


So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban 
someone, he cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug 
feels is in violation of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining 
to the group *exactly why* he thinks this poster needs to be banned.


Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the 
people he doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just 
fall off the radar because they can't post any more, either to 
complain or to defend themselves.


I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret.


*From:*j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...%20[FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show


As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop 
with respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning 
piqued my curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator 
yesterday afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in 
terms of enforcement. As for me, my role will not change.


---dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :


Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened 
high-minded empathy in experience for the well-being 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


  Allowing Buck to moderate is a bad idea. He dishes out the 
  same Kool-Aid.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GfG0ofh8-MM/VXQ-eaKldPI/A_A/SKumQYyjUYs/s910/Kool_Aid_1956.jpg
 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GfG0ofh8-MM/VXQ-eaKldPI/A_A/SKumQYyjUYs/s910/Kool_Aid_1956.jpg
  

 
--- jamesalan735@... wrote :

 Doug Hamilton has volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to 
ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. 

He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck alter-ego.

Click on the link below to see a sample of how Doug Hamilton has commonly used  
FFL over the years. This is from a few weeks ago.  Posts such as this are 
interspersed with incessant whining about how FFL is inappropriately run. 

In the hiring business, a common phrase is Hire for attitude, train for 
skill.  Well, I doubt if there will be any training for skill in this 
moderator position. Based on my observations of his approach to FFL, I don't 
see that Doug has either the attitude or the capacity to 'moderate' himself or 
FFL.

However, the deed is done, and I guess only time will tell. 


Fairfield Life 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168 
 
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168
 
 Fairfield Life 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168 
Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth 
and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of 
Mana...


 
 View on groups.yahoo.com 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 
  
--- rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote 
 

 --- dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
–JaiGuruYou
 

 It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. 
 Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. 
With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in 
very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature 
of it has contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are 
obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent 
violation of those guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has 
volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to 
Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status. 
  

--- turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 Sad news.

Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on 
a few guidelines for *him* when he does this.

I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there.

So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned.

Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves.

I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the kingdom. 
I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just suggesting a 
procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

  
 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...%20[FairfieldLife]; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
  
 

 As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

  
 --- dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 


 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL. 


 























 










RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread feste37
I have not posted here for a while, although I have been reading some of the 
posts. I applaud the decision to appoint a moderator, which is long overdue. I 
suggest that some flexibility might be adopted in moderating this group. 
  
 Posters who are ajudged to have violated the Yahoo! guidelines might first be 
given a warning before being banned. There could even be two warnings, creating 
a kind of “three strikes and you’re out” system. 
  
 Another approach would simply be for the moderator to delete without comment 
or further repercussions posts deemed to have violated the guidelines. 
  
 Also, not all banishments, perhaps none of them, should be forever. People 
could be banned for a week, two weeks, a month, whatever. Lengthy bans of, say, 
more than six months, could be imposed only by unanimous agreeement of three 
people: the newly appointed moderator, plus Rick and Alex. 
  
 Perhaps a system could be developed that would use some or all of these 
suggestions, as appropriate. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote :

 Doug Hamilton has volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to 
ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. 

He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck alter-ego.

Click on the link below to see a sample of how Doug Hamilton has commonly used  
FFL over the years. This is from a few weeks ago.  Posts such as this are 
interspersed with incessant whining about how FFL is inappropriately run. 

In the hiring business, a common phrase is Hire for attitude, train for 
skill.  Well, I doubt if there will be any training for skill in this 
moderator position. Based on my observations of his approach to FFL, I don't 
see that Doug has either the attitude or the capacity to 'moderate' himself or 
FFL.

However, the deed is done, and I guess only time will tell. 


Fairfield Life 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168 
 
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168
 
 Fairfield Life 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168 
Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth 
and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of 
Mana...


 
 View on groups.yahoo.com 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/414168
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 
 



  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote 
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show


  
  
 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
–JaiGuruYou
 It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. 
 Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. 
With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in 
very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature 
of it has contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are 
obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent 
violation of those guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has 
volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to 
Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status. 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 Sad news. 

  

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

  

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

  

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

  

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's reasonable. I wonder what Doug is thinking now? What are you thinking 
Doug? It would be nice if you truly started to talk with us, considering the 
wide gulf in what we think is real.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Awww, what say les give Doug a chance. 

 

 Heck , he hasn't banned me for calling Marshy (well deserved) names so he's ok 
in my book. 

 

 Besides, Rick has promised to tan his hide if he crosses that moderator line.

 

 From: jamesalan735@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 12:36 PM
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   Doug Hamilton has volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to 
ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. 















[FairfieldLife] Re: Egg Rationing?

2015-06-08 Thread jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3f/df/e0/3fdfe09fd42f1db9202cc3f23abdaae0.jpg
 
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3f/df/e0/3fdfe09fd42f1db9202cc3f23abdaae0.jpg
  

--- noozguru@... wrote :

 Apparently so at least in Texas. More end times stuff? Is the Bird 
 Flu a conspiracy?
 
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/
 
 Poor Mikey and Willy.

  




[FairfieldLife] Another billionaire who gets it

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Billionaire Cartier Owner Sees Wealth Gap Fueling Social Unrest

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-08/billionaire-cartier-owner-sees-wealth-gap-fueling-social-unrest

I suppose there will be some here who see this as Marxist Claptrap. :-D


[FairfieldLife] Zeppelin in the land of the Ved...

2015-06-08 Thread salyavin808


 This'll be a treat. If you heard their excellent Unledded album with it's 
blend of ethnic percussion and orchestral arrangements you'll know what sort of 
mystical shenanigans these guys like to get up to.
 

 This was probably recorded when they wrote the epic track Kashmir. Expect the 
grand and the stirring.
 

 When Led Zeppelin visited India - BBC News 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-33017725

 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-33017725 
 
 When Led Zeppelin visited India - BBC News 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-33017725 Sidharth Bhatia recalls the 
legendary rock band Led Zeppelin's visit to India's entertainment capital in 
1972.
 
 
 
 View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-33017725 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think you must have misunderstood something I said again. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 I am sorry your memory is not what it used to be. You used to be able to pull 
something up from the past in a snap.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Oh, I still stand by what I said. Not sure where you got the idea I'd dropped 
it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 I do not see why it would be necessary to understand you because that never 
seems possible anyway. Nice to see you have dropped the 'I stand by what I 
said' approach. Relying on what one has said in the past has issues. For 
example, it is possible we are smarter now than in the past and need to revise 
our thinking. Or maybe, less smart. 

 I do have an hypothesis about your recent posting: that you think Barry's 
posting will be controlled in some way now, though it remains to be seen just 
how that will work out, as you two in the past seemed to be the primary polar 
opposites on FFL. Barry's method, it seems to me, was similar to the way one 
would handle dealing with ISIS effectively. I am all for ISIS being 
neutralised. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 I don't think I need to explain anything to you. I think if you reread what I 
wrote, carefully this time--several times if necessary--you'll see why your 
question was based on a misunderstanding. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 'You are holding...' was a question. Note the question mark at the end of 
sentence. It was some sort of figurative language, but the sentence began with 
the word 'you'. Already giving commands? I am under no obligation to reread 
anything here. Note that rereading something does not necessarily result in the 
understanding someone else desires one to have. If that is what you desire, 
then the best method is to explain what you wanted them to understand in some 
other way, and keep doing that until they do understand.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Does the You are holding... refer to me? If it refers to me, you didn't 
understand the post. Read it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 





























Re: [FairfieldLife] India finally learns how to do some very decent CGI

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Indian studios have probably been doing CGI for major US movies for 
years.  This would be a case where some producer in India decided to pop 
for it.  I was involved back in the 1990s with the consortium between 
the tech community and Hollywood to get US colleges to train for 
computer graphics.  A lot  of work was done outside the US because 
colleges here weren't training for it.


On 06/08/2015 10:50 AM, Duveyoung wrote:


Baahubali - The Beginning | Official Trailer | Prabhas, Rana 
Daggubati, SS Rajamouli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NQRhE772b0



Haven't seen or read reviews -- trailer looks awesome.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am sorry your memory is not what it used to be. You used to be able to pull 
something up from the past in a snap.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Oh, I still stand by what I said. Not sure where you got the idea I'd dropped 
it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 I do not see why it would be necessary to understand you because that never 
seems possible anyway. Nice to see you have dropped the 'I stand by what I 
said' approach. Relying on what one has said in the past has issues. For 
example, it is possible we are smarter now than in the past and need to revise 
our thinking. Or maybe, less smart. 

 I do have an hypothesis about your recent posting: that you think Barry's 
posting will be controlled in some way now, though it remains to be seen just 
how that will work out, as you two in the past seemed to be the primary polar 
opposites on FFL. Barry's method, it seems to me, was similar to the way one 
would handle dealing with ISIS effectively. I am all for ISIS being 
neutralised. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 I don't think I need to explain anything to you. I think if you reread what I 
wrote, carefully this time--several times if necessary--you'll see why your 
question was based on a misunderstanding. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 'You are holding...' was a question. Note the question mark at the end of 
sentence. It was some sort of figurative language, but the sentence began with 
the word 'you'. Already giving commands? I am under no obligation to reread 
anything here. Note that rereading something does not necessarily result in the 
understanding someone else desires one to have. If that is what you desire, 
then the best method is to explain what you wanted them to understand in some 
other way, and keep doing that until they do understand.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Does the You are holding... refer to me? If it refers to me, you didn't 
understand the post. Read it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 


























[FairfieldLife] Swami Brahmananda Saraswati

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.tinyurl.com/nj6g3ha http://www.tinyurl.com/nj6g3ha
 



[FairfieldLife] Are you smarter than a (Hong Kong) six year old?

2015-06-08 Thread salyavin808
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1020616426546set=a.4017899240941.167957.1085166593type=1

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Easy Barry, easy.   

 A rag, please to wipe the pouring sweat from Barry's brow.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Thanks for responding, Rick. While you're still here, can you please explain 
to us exactly HOW Doug will enforce the sentence I've highlighted below in red? 
What exactly is he allowed to do and not do to ensure adherence to Yahoo's 
guidelines? 

My experience is that it's better to ask these kinds of questions *before* 
possible abuse of authority happens, not afterwards. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show


  
  
 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
–JaiGuruYou
 It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. 
 Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. 
With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in 
very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature 
of it has contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are 
obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent 
violation of those guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has 
volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to 
Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status. 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 Sad news. 

  

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

  

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

  

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

  

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

  

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

  
 
 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...%20[FairfieldLife]; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

  
  
 As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

  

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@... wrote :
 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 

  

 For instance,

  

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Serious_Richard brings up in this particular thread an important point about 
privacy on FFL. From the beginning Rick has been intent on creating a 
safe-space of privacy for folks to post on FFL. Rick's principles in creating 
safe-space have been under attack, degraded and methodically violated by some 
writers here evidently to abuse or intimidate other folks personally who have 
been members of the community of FFL.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks for offering this, Serious. Yes I feel this is an excellent example 
that you offer of precedence in how to directly moderate a list that has gone 
so bad like this. I shall make note of it and emulate Rick in this as much as 
possible. The yahoo-groups guidelines themselves are quite simple and require 
of writers only some self-control. -JaiGuruYou!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rich...@rwilliams.us wrote :

 Just for the record, I should point out that Rick banned me from the group 
without sending me a single message or email explaining why. So, I appealed to 
him and he reinstated my posting privileges. Apparently an informant objected 
to my using their real name, although they had previously posted under their 
real name. Go figure.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 The really sad part of this is that Barry has not apologized to me for over 
two decades for posting my real name on a.m.t. Go figure.
 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Taxi, brilliant!  Absofuckinlutely brilliant.  Start your own group and harp on 
life's problems to your hearts content. 

 Please, please do it.
 

 I nominate you as initiator, or moderator, or whatever.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Let's just see how it turns out. We could always create Fairfield Life II if 
it does not. Here is the current description of Fairfield Life, in case any of 
us have forgotten: 

 Group Description Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to 
Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. 
There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as 
many others pursuing various spiritual paths.

What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is 
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell

We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not 
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. Discussions also draw 
from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, 
Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc.

The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching

Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.

Whatever you think, it's more than that ~ Incredible String Band

You can lurk without joining, but you have to join to post. Members can access 
Files, Photos, Links, and Database.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I 
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. 
~ Buddha

Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band

I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for 
the truth; and truth rewarded me. ~ Simone de Beauvoir

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jesus, the guy appears to be in full panic mode. 

 EMTs available, by any chance?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would 
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on 
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting 
limit.
 
WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular 
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy 
making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time 
(wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than 
I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his 
silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander 
plays as moderator.

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
 
 
   

 

---In 

[FairfieldLife] Thersa Olson and MMY

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Theresa Olson - has a book out (2004): something like Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a 
Modern Saint for the New Millennium
 .
 http://tinyurl.com/nndwsta http://tinyurl.com/nndwsta

 



[FairfieldLife] Genius and insanity...

2015-06-08 Thread salyavin808


 This is interesting. Seems fairly obvious that a mind supercharged with 
hypomania will be more creative than a more typically dull one. That Van Gogh 
was a manic depressive seems like it might be a reliable 
diagnosis-at-a-distance, but that doesn't mean he wasn't also a great painter 
anyway, oh no. The guy was a genius too. His radical blend of impressionism and 
elements taken from Japanese painting coupled with an observant eye for nature 
and knowledge of the ultimately pointless and ephemeral nature of life and his 
belief in social justice made him a radical figure and not much understood in 
his day.
 

 But would he have been more successful if he'd been normal? There's no way 
to know. But a soul on fire looks at the world in a different way and doesn't 
just accept it. To feel the world's pain as well as your own isn't everyone's 
lot in life - fortunately for them - but it does give the sufferer/blessed a 
perspective that makes everyone else confront something they hadn't seen.
 

 Drugs are another way of breaking the chain of social conditioning. It's 
hardly any wonder there was a massive cultural revolution when the CIA stopped 
trying to brainwash people with LSD and gave it to a young writer called Ken 
Kesey. The rest is (or should be) history.
 

 So yes, I'm firmly in the camp that thinks breaking down internal barriers 
sets you free to create the sort of things you actually want to create rather 
than the ones the birth-school-work-death-world wants you to choose from.
 

 New study claims to find genetic link between creativity and mental illness 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/08/new-study-claims-to-find-genetic-link-between-creativity-and-mental-illness

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/08/new-study-claims-to-find-genetic-link-between-creativity-and-mental-illness
 
 
 New study claims to find genetic link between creativi... 
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/08/new-study-claims-to-find-genetic-link-between-creativity-and-mental-illness
 Results imply creative people are 25% more likely to carry genes that raise 
risk of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. But some argue the evidence is 
flimsy
 
 
 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jesus Christ, is someone starting to panic about the possibility of moderator? 

 Oh, and Barry, thank you for proving what Mark Twain said about statistics.
 

 Barry, only those who feel their gig would be exposed would respond as you are 
doing here.
 

 Maybe, you're gonna have to put on your big boy pants for a change. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Hi Rick, 

I am pleased to hear that you're going to look into the moderation issue and 
try to determine exactly who is disrupting Fairfield Life and creating a 
negative experience for posters who have chosen to remain there and post, as 
opposed to moving over to The_Peak. To help you decide where exactly the 
problem lies, and who you might need to moderate, here are some interesting 
statistics for you to ponder:

-- Number of posts made in June to The_Peak by FFL members that were designed 
and intended to complain about The_Peak and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  0 (zero)

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by The_Peak members that were designed 
and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  131

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by Judy Stein (technically not a member 
of The_Peak) that were designed and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt 
that group's ongoing conversations:  18
 
Seems to me that there is a concerted effort by members of another group 
(The_Leak) and one of their sympathizers (Judy Stein) to disrupt Fairfield 
Life. Meanwhile, there is NO corresponding attempt by anyone at FFL to go over 
to The_Peak and disrupt *their* conversations. 

I think these statistics speak for themselves as to who needs moderation, but 
you decide...

Barry

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 

 



 I believe when you say Rick is enabling a certain behaviour, you are really 
saying he is not preventing behaviour you would rather not see. He is not 
enabling, its laissez-faire, a policy or attitude of letting things take their 
own course, without interfering. When you use the word enabling, you are 
assuming Rick wants to have that kind of behaviour to which you have so far 
objected. But now that you see he is just letting things take their natural 
course, that should not be a problem any more. 
  

 I do not think Rick has an intentional stance to enable, is just letting go, 
as when one lets go of a mantra and it goes and changes however it goes. The 
individual posters enable whatever happens because they are the one producing 
the content. But content here comes from thought, and thought is spontaneous, 
it comes effortlessly and naturally, so really, nature itself is what enables 
what happens here, and everywhere else for that matter. I believe you are 
attributing intentionality incorrectly. When I say 'believe', that means it's 
an opinion, not necessarily true, though it could be.
  
 That’s a fair assessment. I give little attention to FFL because I’m so busy 
with other things. But I’ve gotten so many complaints recently that I may 
appoint a moderator soon, and will announce it when I do. I don’t believe in 
censorship, but I also don’t believe in enabling abusive behavior.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@... wrote :
 Sort of. It took me awhile to recognize that this place has been allowed to 
deteriorate one post at a time,  deliberately. Once I saw that, that this is 
Rick's intention and legacy, I was OK with it. 
  

 For the longest time, I simply thought he wasn't doing his job as moderator, 
when in fact he is precisely enabling the behavior he wants to see on here, and 
always has been. 
  

 I have no issues with that at all - like I said, it just took me awhile to see 
it. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 The funny thing is the more they go on about FFL and the need for moderating 
the more Rick is likely to keep it up the way it is.  After what FFL has always 
been is a place for people who have on thing in common, that they were involved 
in TM, to share their outlook on everything, not just TM or spirituality.  I've 
always said it's like the off topic sections many forums have.











 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for offering this, Serious. Yes I feel this is an excellent example that 
your offer of precedence in how to directly moderate a list that has gone so 
bad like this. I shall make note of it and emulate Rick in this as much as 
possible. The yahoo-groups guidelines themselves are quite simple and require 
of writers only some self-control. -JaiGuruYou!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rich...@rwilliams.us wrote :

 Just for the record, I should point out that Rick banned me from the group 
without sending me a single message or email explaining why. So, I appealed to 
him and he reinstated my posting privileges. Apparently an informant objected 
to my using their real name, although they had previously posted under their 
real name. Go figure.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 The really sad part of this is that Barry has not apologized to me for over 
two decades for posting my real name on a.m.t. Go figure.
 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Please ignore what he says about me. He has it completely wrong. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Serious_Richard brings up in this particular thread an important point about 
privacy on FFL. From the beginning Rick has been intent on creating a 
safe-space of privacy for folks to post on FFL. Rick's principles in creating 
safe-space have been under attack, degraded and methodically violated by some 
writers here evidently to abuse or intimidate other folks personally who have 
been members of the community of FFL. 
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

   Barry's method, it seems to me, was similar to the way one would handle 
dealing with ISIS effectively. I am all for ISIS being neutralised. 



Exactly. organizations like ISIS -- and individual narcissistic psychopaths -- 
want more than anything else To Be Paid Attention To. 

How does a warrior defeat them?
Easy. 

Don't. 

Don't give them any attention.

  

[FairfieldLife] Shocking news of the day...

2015-06-08 Thread salyavin808
Sideshow Bob will finally kill his nemesis Bart Simpson 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/the-simpsons/11658723/Sideshow-Bob-will-finally-kill-his-nemesis-Bart-Simpson.html

 
 
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/the-simpsons/11658723/Sideshow-Bob-will-finally-kill-his-nemesis-Bart-Simpson.html
 
 
 Sideshow Bob will finally kill his nemesis Bart Simpson 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/the-simpsons/11658723/Sideshow-Bob-will-finally-kill-his-nemesis-Bart-Simpson.html
 After 25 years of trying, the murderous clown can at last say Die Bart, Die 
and mean it
 
 
 
 View on www.telegraph.co.uk 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/the-simpsons/11658723/Sideshow-Bob-will-finally-kill-his-nemesis-Bart-Simpson.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Awww, what say les give Doug a chance. 

Heck , he hasn't banned me for calling Marshy (well deserved) names so he's ok 
in my book. 

Besides, Rick has promised to tan his hide if he crosses that moderator line.

  From: jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 12:36 PM
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
   
    Doug Hamilton has volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to 
ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. 

He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck alter-ego.

Click on the link below to see a sample of how Doug Hamilton has commonly used  
FFL over the years. This is from a few weeks ago.  Posts such as this are 
interspersed with incessant whining about how FFL is inappropriately run. 

In the hiring business, a common phrase is Hire for attitude, train for 
skill.  Well, I doubt if there will be any training for skill in this 
moderator position. Based on my observations of his approach to FFL, I don't 
see that Doug has either the attitude or the capacity to 'moderate' himself or 
FFL.

However, the deed is done, and I guess only time will tell. 


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 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show  We sat over this 
together in church the other day.  It will be fine. –JaiGuruYouIt was a 
wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. Almost daily, various 
people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. With BatGap and my 
other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in very minimal 
moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature of it has 
contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are obligated to at 
least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent violation of those 
guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has volunteered to 
moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s 
guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :Sad news.  Might I 
propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on a few 
guidelines for *him* when he does this.  I'm suggesting this because I think 
everyone here is aware that Doug is...uh...not quite in touch with reality 
these days, and tends to see things that aren't really there.  So what I 
suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he cannot do so 
without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation of the Yahoo 
Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he thinks this 
poster needs to be banned.  Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug 
will just ban the people he doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll 
just fall off the radar because they can't post any more, either to complain or 
to defend themselves.  I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed 
the keys to the kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. 
I'm just suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret.  From: 
j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show  As is typically the case 
these days, I am completely out of the loop with respect to Rick's handling of 
FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my curiosity, and it turns out that Rick 
made Doug a moderator yesterday afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed 
to do in terms of enforcement. As for me, my role will not change. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :Thanks R-V, I 
appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded empathy in 
experience for the well-being of FFL.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :Cute. When do 
you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your first official 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good Advice. Although ISIS does have rather bad manners, and firearms. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
   Barry's method, it seems to me, was similar to the way one would handle 
dealing with ISIS effectively. I am all for ISIS being neutralised. 
 


 

 Exactly. organizations like ISIS -- and individual narcissistic psychopaths -- 
want more than anything else To Be Paid Attention To. 

 

 How does a warrior defeat them?
 

 Easy. 

 

 Don't. 

 

 Don't give them any attention.

 

















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, I still stand by what I said. Not sure where you got the idea I'd dropped 
it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 I do not see why it would be necessary to understand you because that never 
seems possible anyway. Nice to see you have dropped the 'I stand by what I 
said' approach. Relying on what one has said in the past has issues. For 
example, it is possible we are smarter now than in the past and need to revise 
our thinking. Or maybe, less smart. 

 I do have an hypothesis about your recent posting: that you think Barry's 
posting will be controlled in some way now, though it remains to be seen just 
how that will work out, as you two in the past seemed to be the primary polar 
opposites on FFL. Barry's method, it seems to me, was similar to the way one 
would handle dealing with ISIS effectively. I am all for ISIS being 
neutralised. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 I don't think I need to explain anything to you. I think if you reread what I 
wrote, carefully this time--several times if necessary--you'll see why your 
question was based on a misunderstanding. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 'You are holding...' was a question. Note the question mark at the end of 
sentence. It was some sort of figurative language, but the sentence began with 
the word 'you'. Already giving commands? I am under no obligation to reread 
anything here. Note that rereading something does not necessarily result in the 
understanding someone else desires one to have. If that is what you desire, 
then the best method is to explain what you wanted them to understand in some 
other way, and keep doing that until they do understand.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Does the You are holding... refer to me? If it refers to me, you didn't 
understand the post. Read it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 


























Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
   Barry's method, it seems to me, was similar to the way one would handle 
dealing with ISIS effectively. I am all for ISIS being neutralised. 
 

 Exactly. organizations like ISIS -- and individual narcissistic psychopaths -- 
want more than anything else To Be Paid Attention To. 

 

 How does a warrior defeat them?
 

 Easy. 

 

 Don't. 

 

 Don't give them any attention.

 

 Sounds like a good idea. Why don't you try it sometime?
 

















[FairfieldLife] Tat Wala Baba and Maharishi

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jerry Jarvis shown in several frames.
 Tat Wala Baba  Maharishi http://www.tinyurl.com/nbn4s6v
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Transpiritual Experiences

2015-06-08 Thread ultrarishi
Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode.  Hopefully this will 
be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the Netflix created series and 
some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've been burned before, but even their bad 
stuff is better than most network and cable offerings.

On the subject of folks downloading stuff from Netflix I offer this article:  
Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules is stealing 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972
 
 
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972
 
 
 Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyrigh... 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972
 Watching U.S. Netflix in Canada by using location-hiding services such as VPNs 
is stealing and needs to be more frowned upon, the new president of Be...
 
 
 
 View on www.cbc.ca 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972
 
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Basically the kid of the head of a Canadian cable company can't get her content 
without circumventing ridiculous border restrictions created by lawyers in 
Hollywood.

Also, I think many of the folks who are torrenting stuff from Netflix is for 
the masses who would love to get but it's not available in their country yet.  
Places like Australia are getting a hugely pared down version of the catalog 
that Americans have access too.

There is also that group of folks that just refuse to pay for it period..

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi exposed

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 /It kind of looks like yifuxero didn't get the memo about the new
moderator. He was supposed to read the messages here BEFORE he posts his
own messages. Maybe he is trying to start anonther flame war, but we
already discussed this topic. Isn't he the same guy that posted all those
lies about Judy?/

Quoting yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com:


 

 The interview was abruptly ended by MMY when the interviewer asked
him if he could fly.   MMY said the interviewer was superficial and no
longer wanted to answer the questions.  Bevan then came into the room
and literally pulled the plug.

 . Shows numerous butt-bouncers and some statements by John Knapp.
 Exposes false claims such as invincibility, along with revelations
about the big money aspects of the Movement.

 ..

 I might add that given that Tat Wala Baba was supposedly in Unity,
he was mistakenly shot and killed by a hunter while meditating in his
cave.  So much for invincibility. The interviewer's conclusion:
Gobbledegook and rubbish!

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[FairfieldLife] How Netflix solved the piracy problem in Spain

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
As well as Holland. ;-)

http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/06/piracy-laid-the-groundwork-for-netflixs-launch-in-spain-says-ceo/

A bit of understanding rather than knee jerk reactions, which is what 
Hollywood studios do, goes a long way.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Freedom Summit

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
President Obama is barred by constitutional term limits from seeking 
re-election in 2016. A large crowd of candidates will likely compete for the 
Democratic and Republican nominations.

 

2016 Presidential Candidates (Presidency 2016) 
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm 
 
 http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm 
 
 2016 Presidential Candidates (Presidency 2016) 
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm US Political and Election news from around 
the nation - by Ron Gunzburger, publisher of the award-winning Politics1.com 
site
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 The Vermont senator received 208 of 511 delegate votes at the state 
convention in Milwaukee on Saturday, while Clinton won votes from 252 of the 
delegates, leaving her just short of a majority.

 

Wisconsin straw poll surprise: A narrow Clinton win 
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/wisconsin-straw-poll-surprise-a-narrow-clinton-win-118727.html
 
 
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/wisconsin-straw-poll-surprise-a-narrow-clinton-win-118727.html
 
 Wisconsin straw poll surprise: A narrow Clinton win 
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/wisconsin-straw-poll-surprise-a-narrow-clinton-win-118727.html
 Bernie Sanders scored 41 percent in a straw poll vote at the Wisconsin 
Democratic Party convention this weekend — finishing a close second to ...


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Mr. Walker, whose early surge in national polls has receded, still enjoys a 
decisive lead in Iowa, thanks to an unflashy style that resonates with Iowans’ 
Midwestern sensibilities and to an unusual appeal across a wide ideological 
swath of Republicans.

 

Scott Walker Riding With Joni Ernst in Iowa as Rivals Give Chase 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0
 
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0
 
 Scott Walker Riding With Joni Ernst in Iowa as Rivals Gi... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0
 Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin was ready to mount a motorcycle Saturday for a 
“Roast and Ride” fund-raiser, but Republican challenges lie ahead.


 
 View on www.nytimes.com 
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 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
 After his Thursday launch, Perry will head to Iowa, where on Saturday he'll 
be in the city of Perry to kick off a Ride with Rick event that benefits the 
Puppy Jake Foundation, a non-profit that provides service dogs to wounded 
veterans.
 

 Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White House - CNNPolitics.com 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/

 
 
 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/
 
 Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White Hou... 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/
 This time, Rick Perry has nowhere to go but up.


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 S.C. Senator Lindsey Graham has kicked off his presidential campaign.
 

 Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid 
http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html
 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html
 
 Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid 
http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html
 CENTRAL, S.C. (AP) — South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham has kicked off his 
presidential campaign.


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 She is now seriously questioning the mental health of both of the Clintons.
 

 Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ 
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ 
 
 http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/
 
 Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ 
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ A 
Free Press For A Free People Since 1997


 
 View on www.wnd.com 
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[FairfieldLife] Nikola Tesla

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.tinyurl.com/ohtpx3s http://www.tinyurl.com/ohtpx3s
 



[FairfieldLife] MMY Swami Lakshmanjoo, 1969

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In the second frame, Jerry Jarvis shown walking in.
 Lakshmanjoo was an expert in Kashmir Saivism.
 

 Swami Lakshmanjoo and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi http://www.tinyurl.com/ptknxbz
 
 
 http://www.tinyurl.com/ptknxbz 
 
 Swami Lakshmanjoo and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi http://www.tinyurl.com/ptknxbz 
MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI IN KASHMIR In 1952, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, 
Jagadguru Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Himalayas, travelled to K...
 
 
 
 View on www.tinyurl.com http://www.tinyurl.com/ptknxbz 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Swami Karpatri

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
(Disciple of Guru Dev):
 http://www.tinyurl.com/qyevoyt http://www.tinyurl.com/qyevoyt
 



[FairfieldLife] Audio of MMY and Tat Wale Baba

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
(different than previous post.  This one has an audio. 1969, Rishikesh):
 MAHARISHI and TAT WALE BABA Rishikesh audio http://www.tinyurl.com/oofa8lo
 
 
 http://www.tinyurl.com/oofa8lo 
 
 MAHARISHI and TAT WALE BABA Rishikesh audio http://www.tinyurl.com/oofa8lo 
Audio tape of MAHARISHI and TAT WALE BABA Rishikesh 1969
 
 
 
 View on www.tinyurl.com http://www.tinyurl.com/oofa8lo 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transpiritual Experiences

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I you would have told people 25 years ago that someday their cable bill 
would be $300 they would think you were crazy.  But that's what a lot of 
people who still have cable have been paying a month.  I still my 
provider trying to sell me TV and once when they reacted as if I was 
from Mars because I didn't want TV.  The paradigm has changed and it is 
pissing off the telecom CEOs.


So what I can't figure in that article is why the 20 year old daughter 
would sign up for cable TV when they could get what they want to watch 
streaming and when they want? Dinosaurs don't like to see their world a 
changin'.


On 06/08/2015 05:03 PM, ultrarishi wrote:


Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode. Hopefully 
this will be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the Netflix 
created series and some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've been burned 
before, but even their bad stuff is better than most network and cable 
offerings.


On the subject of folks downloading stuff from Netflix I offer this 
article: Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules 
is stealing 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972





image 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972 




Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyrigh... 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972 

Watching U.S. Netflix in Canada by using location-hiding services such 
as VPNs is stealing and needs to be more frowned upon, the new 
president of Be...


View on www.cbc.ca 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972 



Preview by Yahoo

Basically the kid of the head of a Canadian cable company can't get 
her content without circumventing ridiculous border restrictions 
created by lawyers in Hollywood.


Also, I think many of the folks who are torrenting stuff from Netflix 
is for the masses who would love to get but it's not available in 
their country yet.  Places like Australia are getting a hugely pared 
down version of the catalog that Americans have access too.


There is also that group of folks that just refuse to pay for it period..





[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you smarter than a (Hong Kong) six year old?

2015-06-08 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No - I'm not smarter than a Hong Kong six year old. 

 The answer (which I discovered via Google) is that we're looking at the 
numbers upside down. The car drivers would see them as 86 87 88 89 90 91.
 

 Geddit? Kids haven't yet had their lateral-thinking ability educated out of 
them.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1020616426546set=a.4017899240941.167957.1085166593type=1



[FairfieldLife] People Born in May the Healthiest?

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

This Is the Healthiest Month to Be Born In, According to Science

http://time.com/3913045/healthiest-months-born/

Uh, oh, next thing you'll know science *will* validate astrology! Enjoy!


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
This doesn't seem to me like a good way to welcome the new moderator, to 
suggest he might go off his rocker because he is religious.  

 Obviously you're interested in religion and the spiritual movement in 
Fairfield, otherwise you wouldn't even be here. 
 

 All Doug is asking you to do is be civil and avoid starting an online riot or 
flame war. Thanks. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No, no, ... you need some restraints on your mental excesses. It was an 
alternative suggestion if Doug went off his rocker, but so far we have no 
evidence of what might happen, which is pretty much the way life is anyway. Now 
that Doug has assumed this office, for which he has been campaigning since the 
universe began, he does have a responsibility both to Rick and to us, so I do 
not see why he should not be allowed the attempt. To do this right you have to 
step out of your personal quirks and manage a larger realm, so it might be a 
good learning experience. Doug seems to have a sort of religious background, 
whereas many of us here do not or abandoned these background indoctrinations. 
That would mean many things some of us think are false, Doug may think are 
true. I wonder if he will feel a conflict? 

 Question: why seventhray? Seven rays is a common metaphor in a lot of 
spiritual traditions. Why not eight, or nine? Problem here is we have a lot of 
half rays. Together they could add up though. Spiritual traditions seem to have 
a lot of made up numbers.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Taxi, brilliant!  Absofuckinlutely brilliant.  Start your own group and harp 
on life's problems to your hearts content. 

 Please, please do it.
 

 I nominate you as initiator, or moderator, or whatever.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Let's just see how it turns out. We could always create Fairfield Life II if 
it does not. Here is the current description of Fairfield Life, in case any of 
us have forgotten: 

 Group Description Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to 
Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. 
There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as 
many others pursuing various spiritual paths.

What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is 
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell

We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not 
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. Discussions also draw 
from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, 
Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc.

The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching

Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.

Whatever you think, it's more than that ~ Incredible String Band

You can lurk without joining, but you have to join to post. Members can access 
Files, Photos, Links, and Database.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I 
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. 
~ Buddha

Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band

I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for 
the truth; and truth rewarded me. ~ Simone de Beauvoir

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou 










 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks A., good to know. In going forward with moderation on FFL, protection of 
privacy has always been a mainstay feature of FFL as Rick's free speech list. 
This feature of protection has been under siege and fallen to a form of a 
disrespect used by some writers on FFL. Everyone take this as a warning right 
now going forward: where someone posting to the list uses an anonymous screen 
name it is quite proper form on FFL as a yahoo-group to respond to posts using 
a person's screen name and make no mention of their real name otherwise.  
-JaiGuruYou!
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Please ignore what he says about me. He has it completely wrong.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Serious_Richard brings up in this particular thread an important point about 
privacy on FFL. From the beginning Rick has been intent on creating a 
safe-space of privacy for folks to post on FFL. Rick's principles in creating 
safe-space have been under attack, degraded and methodically violated by some 
writers here evidently to abuse or intimidate other folks personally who have 
been members of the community of FFL. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks for offering this, Serious. Yes I feel this is an excellent example 
that you offer of precedence in how to directly moderate a list that has gone 
so bad like this. I shall make note of it and emulate Rick in this as much as 
possible. The yahoo-groups guidelines themselves are quite simple and require 
of writers only some self-control. -JaiGuruYou!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rich...@rwilliams.us wrote :

 Just for the record, I should point out that Rick banned me from the group 
without sending me a single message or email explaining why. So, I appealed to 
him and he reinstated my posting privileges. Apparently an informant objected 
to my using their real name, although they had previously posted under their 
real name. Go figure.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 The really sad part of this is that Barry has not apologized to me for over 
two decades for posting my real name on a.m.t. Go figure.
 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transpiritual Experiences

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 It's not all that complicated. If you get Dish you can watch the national and 
local news in real time every morning. And, in the evening you can watch the 
latest episodes of your favorite show. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I you would have told people 25 years ago that someday their cable bill would 
be $300 they would think you were crazy.  But that's what a lot of people who 
still have cable have been paying a month.  I still my provider trying to sell 
me TV and once when they reacted as if I was from Mars because I didn't want 
TV.  The paradigm has changed and it is pissing off the telecom CEOs. 
 

 Paying monthly for cable or satellite is a small price to pay for home 
entertainment compared to going theater movies, music concerts, and shopping in 
a mall. In come cases, you threaten to cut the cable and you might start a riot 
at home. Plus, nobody wants to live with someone that can't even afford cable 
TV. Go figure.
 
 So what I can't figure in that article is why the 20 year old daughter would 
sign up for cable TV when they could get what they want to watch streaming and 
when they want? 
 

 What you need to understand is that most of us aren't allowed to commandeer 
the living room TV remote and force your SO and the kids to watch some obscure 
depressing movie. It just doesn't work that way in a family. 
 

 Your situation might be different if you live alone or in a boarding house and 
do your viewing up in your bedroom. 

 

 Dinosaurs don't like to see their world a changin'.
 

 Non sequitur.
 
 On 06/08/2015 05:03 PM, ultrarishi wrote:
 
   Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode.  Hopefully this 
will be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the Netflix created 
series and some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've been burned before, but even 
their bad stuff is better than most network and cable offerings.
 
 On the subject of folks downloading stuff from Netflix I offer this article:  
Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules is stealing
 
 
 
 
 Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyrigh... Watching U.S. 
Netflix in Canada by using location-hiding services such as VPNs is stealing 
and needs to be more frowned upon, the new president of Be...


 
 View on www.cbc.ca 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 Basically the kid of the head of a Canadian cable company can't get her 
content without circumventing ridiculous border restrictions created by lawyers 
in Hollywood.
 
 Also, I think many of the folks who are torrenting stuff from Netflix is for 
the masses who would love to get but it's not available in their country yet.  
Places like Australia are getting a hugely pared down version of the catalog 
that Americans have access too.
 
 There is also that group of folks that just refuse to pay for it period..
 


  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I you would have told people 25 years ago that someday their cable bill would 
be $300 they would think you were crazy.  But that's what a lot of people who 
still have cable have been paying a month.  I still my provider trying to sell 
me TV and once when they reacted as if I was from Mars because I didn't want 
TV.  The paradigm has changed and it is pissing off the telecom CEOs. 
 
 So what I can't figure in that article is why the 20 year old daughter would 
sign up for cable TV when they could get what they want to watch streaming and 
when they want? Dinosaurs don't like to see their world a changin'.
 
 On 06/08/2015 05:03 PM, ultrarishi wrote:
 
   Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode.  Hopefully this 
will be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the Netflix created 
series and some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've been burned before, but even 
their bad stuff is better than most network and cable offerings.
 
 On the subject of folks downloading stuff from Netflix I offer this article:  
Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules is stealing
 
 
 
 
 Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyrigh... Watching U.S. 
Netflix in Canada by using location-hiding services such as VPNs is stealing 
and needs to be more frowned upon, the new president of Be...


 
 View on www.cbc.ca 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 Basically the kid of the head of a Canadian cable company can't get her 
content without circumventing ridiculous border restrictions created by lawyers 
in Hollywood.
 
 Also, I think many of the folks who are torrenting stuff from Netflix is for 
the masses who would love to get but it's not available in their country yet.  
Places like Australia are getting a hugely pared down version of the catalog 
that Americans have access too.
 
 There is also that group of folks that just refuse to pay for it period..
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transpiritual Experiences

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Why would I do that?  I can watch what I want over the Internet.  I had 
Dish from 2001 to 2003.  Comcast came through and redid the dilapidated 
cable system they bought from ATT and offered 5 HD channels where Dish 
only had 2. When I had Dish installed in 2001 I was the first HD 
customer the installer had set up.  As it was after he left I set it up 
correctly. ;-)


Fall of 2013 Comcast encrypted basic cable so I fired them.  The 
customer rep told me she would rather do without her cellphone than be 
without cable. Yeah, right!


Try watching Sense8 on Dish.

On 06/08/2015 06:42 PM, rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife] wrote:



It's not all that complicated. If you get Dish you can watch the 
national and local news in real time every morning. And, in the 
evening you can watch the latest episodes of your favorite show.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

I you would have told people 25 years ago that someday their cable 
bill would be $300 they would think you were crazy.  But that's what a 
lot of people who still have cable have been paying a month.  I still 
my provider trying to sell me TV and once when they reacted as if I 
was from Mars because I didn't want TV.  The paradigm has changed and 
it is pissing off the telecom CEOs.


Paying monthly for cable or satellite is a small price to pay for home 
entertainment compared to going theater movies, music concerts, and 
shopping in a mall. In come cases, you threaten to cut the cable and 
you might start a riot at home. Plus, nobody wants to live with 
someone that can't even afford cable TV. Go figure.


So what I can't figure in that article is why the 20 year old daughter 
would sign up for cable TV when they could get what they want to watch 
streaming and when they want?


What you need to understand is that most of us aren't allowed to 
commandeer the living room TV remote and force your SO and the kids to 
watch some obscure depressing movie. It just doesn't work that way in 
a family.


Your situation might be different if you live alone or in a boarding 
house and do your viewing up in your bedroom.


Dinosaurs don't like to see their world a changin'.

Non sequitur.

On 06/08/2015 05:03 PM, ultrarishi wrote:

Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode. Hopefully 
this will be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the 
Netflix created series and some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've 
been burned before, but even their bad stuff is better than most 
network and cable offerings.


On the subject of folks downloading stuff from Netflix I offer this 
article: Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright 
rules is stealing 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972





image 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972



Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyrigh... 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972 

Watching U.S. Netflix in Canada by using location-hiding services 
such as VPNs is stealing and needs to be more frowned upon, the new 
president of Be...


View on www.cbc.ca 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bell-media-president-says-using-vpns-to-skirt-copyright-rules-is-stealing-1.3099972


Preview by Yahoo

Basically the kid of the head of a Canadian cable company can't get 
her content without circumventing ridiculous border restrictions 
created by lawyers in Hollywood.


Also, I think many of the folks who are torrenting stuff from Netflix 
is for the masses who would love to get but it's not available in 
their country yet.  Places like Australia are getting a hugely pared 
down version of the catalog that Americans have access too.


There is also that group of folks that just refuse to pay for it period..




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

I you would have told people 25 years ago that someday their cable 
bill would be $300 they would think you were crazy.  But that's what a 
lot of people who still have cable have been paying a month.  I still 
my provider trying to sell me TV and once when they reacted as if I 
was from Mars because I didn't want TV.  The paradigm has changed and 
it is pissing off the telecom CEOs.


So what I can't figure in that article is why the 20 year old daughter 
would sign up for cable TV when they could get what they want to watch 
streaming and when they want? Dinosaurs don't like to see their world 
a changin'.


On 06/08/2015 05:03 PM, ultrarishi wrote:

Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode. Hopefully 
this will be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the 
Netflix created series and some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've 
been burned before, but even their bad stuff is better than most 
network and 

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi exposed

2015-06-08 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The interview was abruptly ended by MMY when the interviewer asked him if he 
could fly.   MMY said the interviewer was superficial and no longer wanted to 
answer the questions.  Bevan then came into the room and literally pulled the 
plug.
 . Shows numerous butt-bouncers and some statements by John Knapp.  Exposes 
false claims such as invincibility, along with revelations about the big 
money aspects of the Movement.

 ..
 I might add that given that Tat Wala Baba was supposedly in Unity, he was 
mistakenly shot and killed by a hunter while meditating in his cave.  So much 
for invincibility. The interviewer's conclusion: Gobbledegook and rubbish!
 .
 Maharishi Exposed http://www.tinyurl.com/pkf6t5q
 
 
 http://www.tinyurl.com/pkf6t5q 
 
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right now. Please try again later. 
 
 
 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No, no, ... you need some restraints on your mental excesses. It was an 
alternative suggestion if Doug went off his rocker, but so far we have no 
evidence of what might happen, which is pretty much the way life is anyway. Now 
that Doug has assumed this office, for which he has been campaigning since the 
universe began, he does have a responsibility both to Rick and to us, so I do 
not see why he should not be allowed the attempt. To do this right you have to 
step out of your personal quirks and manage a larger realm, so it might be a 
good learning experience. Doug seems to have a sort of religious background, 
whereas many of us here do not or abandoned these background indoctrinations. 
That would mean many things some of us think are false, Doug may think are 
true. I wonder if he will feel a conflict? 

 Question: why seventhray? Seven rays is a common metaphor in a lot of 
spiritual traditions. Why not eight, or nine? Problem here is we have a lot of 
half rays. Together they could add up though. Spiritual traditions seem to have 
a lot of made up numbers.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Taxi, brilliant!  Absofuckinlutely brilliant.  Start your own group and harp 
on life's problems to your hearts content. 

 Please, please do it.
 

 I nominate you as initiator, or moderator, or whatever.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Let's just see how it turns out. We could always create Fairfield Life II if 
it does not. Here is the current description of Fairfield Life, in case any of 
us have forgotten: 

 Group Description Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to 
Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. 
There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as 
many others pursuing various spiritual paths.

What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is 
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell

We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not 
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. Discussions also draw 
from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, 
Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc.

The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching

Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.

Whatever you think, it's more than that ~ Incredible String Band

You can lurk without joining, but you have to join to post. Members can access 
Files, Photos, Links, and Database.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I 
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. 
~ Buddha

Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band

I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for 
the truth; and truth rewarded me. ~ Simone de Beauvoir

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou 












[FairfieldLife] Re: Thersa Olson and MMY

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, it is more of a family's story around early TM days of Maharishi on the 
West Coast. Added first hand accounts/comments from their family about 
Maharishi in the early days. It is an extension of the older  “A Hermit in a 
House”. Nice archival kind of book about a time.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifux...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Theresa Olson - has a book out (2004): something like Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 
a Modern Saint for the New Millennium
 .
 http://tinyurl.com/nndwsta http://tinyurl.com/nndwsta

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, I admit, I'm having a gas thinking about this new period of FFL.  Call it 
The Buck Period, or I know, Passing the Buck to Buck.  I think it's 
fantastic. 

 Has anyone checked the Leiden Dailies to see if Barry has posted an obituary 
for FFL.
 

 Jesus, how I felt some compassion for him this morning.
 

 Hell, we saw all five phases of grieving, anger acceptance, etc. in the span 
of about five minutes.
 

 Thank you God for that display!
 

 Psst, seriously, xeno, he may need a friend to lean during such times.  I hope 
you will be up to it.  In a pinch, I'll see what I can do.
 

 I say, Buck, the conservative mediator in Fairfield, full steam ahead.
 

 Now, what was it we were talking about.  Oh yea, my mental excesses.
 

 Xeno, if we go down that path, I think you'll realize that whatever faults you 
find about yourself, you can be thankful.  So, nuff about that.
 

 What's next?  Oh, yea, that ray thing.
 

 Yea, I admit to have an abiding interest in the Ascended Master thing.
 

 Just something I think about now and then.
 

 Don't worry, I'm not gonna try to sell you on something.  Shit, I swear I just 
felt the presence of Barry about to swoop down on that one.  Ducked just in 
time I guess.
 

 So, yea, seventhray goes with the Ascended Master stuff.
 

 Will the new regime in place, can I get a pass on that?
 

 Pretty please.
 

 Love ya,
 

 Ray, or halfray, or quarter ray, or maybe sting ray.  Hooyah!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No, no, ... you need some restraints on your mental excesses. It was an 
alternative suggestion if Doug went off his rocker, but so far we have no 
evidence of what might happen, which is pretty much the way life is anyway. Now 
that Doug has assumed this office, for which he has been campaigning since the 
universe began, he does have a responsibility both to Rick and to us, so I do 
not see why he should not be allowed the attempt. To do this right you have to 
step out of your personal quirks and manage a larger realm, so it might be a 
good learning experience. Doug seems to have a sort of religious background, 
whereas many of us here do not or abandoned these background indoctrinations. 
That would mean many things some of us think are false, Doug may think are 
true. I wonder if he will feel a conflict? 

 Question: why seventhray? Seven rays is a common metaphor in a lot of 
spiritual traditions. Why not eight, or nine? Problem here is we have a lot of 
half rays. Together they could add up though. Spiritual traditions seem to have 
a lot of made up numbers.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Taxi, brilliant!  Absofuckinlutely brilliant.  Start your own group and harp 
on life's problems to your hearts content. 

 Please, please do it.
 

 I nominate you as initiator, or moderator, or whatever.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 Let's just see how it turns out. We could always create Fairfield Life II if 
it does not. Here is the current description of Fairfield Life, in case any of 
us have forgotten: 

 Group Description Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to 
Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. 
There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as 
many others pursuing various spiritual paths.

What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is 
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell

We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not 
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. Discussions also draw 
from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, 
Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc.

The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching

Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.

Whatever you think, it's more than that ~ Incredible String Band

You can lurk without joining, but you have to join to post. Members can access 
Files, Photos, Links, and Database.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I 
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. 
~ Buddha

Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band

I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for 
the truth; and truth 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transpiritual Experiences

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
It's fun to gather together and get cozy and watch a TV show with the kids on 
weekends. At other times Rita can watch anything she wants to on cable. If I 
don't like it, I can go to my room and watch the news on my laptop. It's just 
not complicated. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Why would I do that?  I can watch what I want over the Internet.  I had Dish 
from 2001 to 2003.  Comcast came through and redid the dilapidated cable system 
they bought from ATT and offered 5 HD channels where Dish only had 2.  When I 
had Dish installed in 2001 I was the first HD customer the installer had set 
up.  As it was after he left I set it up correctly. ;-) 
 

 It sounds complicated.
 
 Fall of 2013 Comcast encrypted basic cable so I fired them.  The customer rep 
told me she would rather do without her cellphone than be without cable. Yeah, 
right!
 
 Try watching Sense8 on Dish. 
 
 On 06/08/2015 06:42 PM, richard@... mailto:richard@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 It's not all that complicated. If you get Dish you can watch the national and 
local news in real time every morning. And, in the evening you can watch the 
latest episodes of your favorite show. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 I you would have told people 25 years ago that someday their cable bill would 
be $300 they would think you were crazy.  But that's what a lot of people who 
still have cable have been paying a month.  I still my provider trying to sell 
me TV and once when they reacted as if I was from Mars because I didn't want 
TV.  The paradigm has changed and it is pissing off the telecom CEOs. 
 

 Paying monthly for cable or satellite is a small price to pay for home 
entertainment compared to going theater movies, music concerts, and shopping in 
a mall. In come cases, you threaten to cut the cable and you might start a riot 
at home. Plus, nobody wants to live with someone that can't even afford cable 
TV. Go figure.
 
 So what I can't figure in that article is why the 20 year old daughter would 
sign up for cable TV when they could get what they want to watch streaming and 
when they want? 
 

 What you need to understand is that most of us aren't allowed to commandeer 
the living room TV remote and force your SO and the kids to watch some obscure 
depressing movie. It just doesn't work that way in a family. 
 
 
 Your situation might be different if you live alone or in a boarding house and 
do your viewing up in your bedroom. 

 

 Dinosaurs don't like to see their world a changin'.
 

 Non sequitur.
 
 On 06/08/2015 05:03 PM, ultrarishi wrote:
 
   Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode.  Hopefully this 
will be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the Netflix created 
series and some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've been burned before, but even 
their bad stuff is better than most network and cable offerings.
 
 On the subject of folks downloading stuff from Netflix I offer this article:  
Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyright rules is stealing
 
 
 
 
 Bell Media president says using VPNs to skirt copyrigh... Watching U.S. 
Netflix in Canada by using location-hiding services such as VPNs is stealing 
and needs to be more frowned upon, the new president of Be...


 
 View on www.cbc.ca 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 Basically the kid of the head of a Canadian cable company can't get her 
content without circumventing ridiculous border restrictions created by lawyers 
in Hollywood.
 
 Also, I think many of the folks who are torrenting stuff from Netflix is for 
the masses who would love to get but it's not available in their country yet.  
Places like Australia are getting a hugely pared down version of the catalog 
that Americans have access too.
 
 There is also that group of folks that just refuse to pay for it period..
 


  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 I you would have told people 25 years ago that someday their cable bill would 
be $300 they would think you were crazy.  But that's what a lot of people who 
still have cable have been paying a month.  I still my provider trying to sell 
me TV and once when they reacted as if I was from Mars because I didn't want 
TV.  The paradigm has changed and it is pissing off the telecom CEOs. 
 
 So what I can't figure in that article is why the 20 year old daughter would 
sign up for cable TV when they could get what they want to watch streaming and 
when they want? Dinosaurs don't like to see their world a changin'.
 
 On 06/08/2015 05:03 PM, ultrarishi wrote:
 
   Well, the spousal unit and I are hooked after 1 episode.  Hopefully this 
will be a good ride.  We've had pretty good luck with the Netflix created 
series and some of the Amazon ones as well.  I've been burned before, but even 
their bad stuff is better than most network 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Live From Austin

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Stevie Ray Vaughan Corssfire Live From Austin Texas 1080P 
https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU 
 
 https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU 
 
 Stevie Ray Vaughan Corssfire Live From Austin Texas 108... 
https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU From the DVD Live From Austin Texas These video 
uploads are completely nonprofit, no copyright infringement intended. The 
intention is rather to enc...
 
 
 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Stevie Ray Vaughan Voodoo Child Live From Austin Texas 1080P 
https://youtu.be/xu7icMXf-pI 
 
 https://youtu.be/xu7icMXf-pI
 
 Stevie Ray Vaughan Voodoo Child Live From Austin Tex... 
https://youtu.be/xu7icMXf-pI From the DVD Live From Austin Texas These video 
uploads are completely nonprofit, no copyright infringement intended. The 
intention is rather to enc...


 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/xu7icMXf-pI
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Asleep At The Wheel Live- Miles and Miles of Texas  Get Your Kicks on Route 
66 https://youtu.be/fTh-4Ss07AE 
 
 https://youtu.be/fTh-4Ss07AE
 
 Asleep At The Wheel Live- Miles and Miles of Texas ... 
https://youtu.be/fTh-4Ss07AE To purchase this DVD, please go to this link: 
http://www.amazon.com/Kings-Texas-Swing-W-Dvd/dp/B000LRZ07U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=U...


 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/fTh-4Ss07AE
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Willie Nelson - Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain (Live From Austin TX) 
https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY 
 
 https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY
 
 Willie Nelson - Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain (Live Fr... 
https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain from Willie 
Nelson's Live From Austin Texas performance. Buy it today on Amazon 
http://amzn.to/1dL5tyz or iTunes http:/...


 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tough Enough (Live) 
https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ 
 
 https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ
 
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try again later.


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six Strings Down 
http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA  
 
 http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA 
 
 Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six St... http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA 
Rock On
 
 
 
 View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
  
   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth 
https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g 
 
 https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g
 
 The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor S... 
https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone Recorded Live: 
3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth (Austin,TX) Subscribe to Paste on YouTube: 
http://goo.gl/AU2nKB Visit P...


 
 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
 John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road 
http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ  
 
 http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ 
 
 John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road 
http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ This feature is not available right now. Please try 
again later. 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dear MJ; Son, I have not problem with your content here. My moderating 
interests are in the parity of the use and impact of words within the 
Yahoo-groups guidelines. Shocking as your content may be to some other people's 
sensibility these comment may possibly make fair conversation on Fairfieldlife 
at yahoo-groups [FFL] so long as there is some evident fact to back them up 
[reference to the testimony already in the FFL archive] ..and they are not used 
simply as a means to slur someone on a public forum. 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con artist and that he 
was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how deep or shallow the newly 
moderated waters are, you see.
 

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 6:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
   
    In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of 
evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is 
on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going 
forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines 
if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your 
cooperative collaboration on this.  -JaiGuruYou! 




Doug, to help people new to moderation understand the kinds of things you think 
are acceptable, as opposed to things you'll be looking to censor, I thought I'd 
pass along some examples of comments you DON'T find to be unkind, belligerent, 
exploitative, degrading, insulting, slurs, profanity or ranting. 

These comments were all posted since you [Doug Hamilton, a name I assume I can 
use because it's in your posting ID, whereas I will never be able to refer to 
myself as Barry any more because it's *not* in my posting ID] became moderator 
of FFL, and you didn't say a word about them, even though you're an active 
member of the forum on which they were posted. 

Because you've been such a vocal spokesman for the need to follow the Yahoo 
Guidelines genuflect to the letter, and because you're so honest and moral 
and all, we know you would have spoken up if you felt that they DIDN'T follow 
the guidelines. 

All of these comments appeared in the last couple of days on THE_PEAK.

I'm passing them along so that posters here -- unaccustomed to the uplifting, 
high-vibe way in which posters over on that moderated forum conduct themselves 
and treat other people in their speech -- can learn from them and know what our 
new moderator Doug Hamilton considers *acceptable* posts that follow the Yahoo 
Guidelines. 

No need to thank me. I'm just trying to do my part for moderation...


So, it appears that while Rick refuses to moderate the hyenas over at FFL he 
is prepared to moderate his new moderator without moderation.

You already have dingleberry whining to Rick, you have our resident sociopath 
[Anartaxius] trying to out talk and outwit Judy with some attempt to point 
score with his idol goosebarry, you've got the ever-charming jamesalan emerging 
out of his hidey hole to comment in his usual inane manner...

The internet was tailor made for cowards and bullies and a perfect sampling 
are a few over at my old alma mater [FFL].

Let's see if Buck's got the chops to stand up to the overgrown brats over 
there.

All I have really learned from FFL is that 1) those who are lonely, bereft, 
obnoxious and have few friends spend that much time on a forum hassling other 
people. 2) Those who choose to bypass accountability use the internet to spread 
their shit. 3) Posting to forums where there is no moderation leads to 
megalomania in those so predisposed.

FFL is a perfect replica of what would happen in the real world if all 
restraints and boundaries were removed from society. The only difference is 
that on the internet no one can actually club your stab you to death.

[Written about Rick Archer, posted by the *owner* and supposed moderator of 
THE_PEAK, the 'moderated' site Doug wants to make FFL more like] No one runs a 
site for 14 years, promising to change it when things get hot, and yet lets 
things grossly deteriorate, without this being completely intentional. I can 
believe ineptitude or inattention for a year or two, but for 14? No, I am not 
that gullible.

I've been watching the goings on over there over that past few days and I must 
confess. It's great to see my old mentor and boss, Judy, still in fine form. As 
we all know, a whole schwack of us were lucky enough to be her minions and cult 
followers and when she left we were terrified. I mean, I don't know about you, 
but knowing I no longer had Judy to watch my back I simply couldn't get out of 
FFL fast enough.

Even so, how lucky we are to have Xeno [Anartaxius] as a shining example of 
strength and independent thought - unencumbered by those messy characteristics 
like emotion or feeling? The only other guy I really miss having here is that 
barrel-full-of-giggles-and-chuckles Empty [Emptybill]. Now there's a happy and 
positive human for you.


 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Be Thankful for the Peace We Have

2015-06-08 Thread salyavin808


Amazing how insane mankind can be, and this is my grandparents generation. Not 
far away at all. 

 It's odd though, I'm reading a book about the Great Escape from Stalagluft 
111, that inspired the classic movie. While some of that was dramatic license 
most of it was true but the only real reason the break-out became famous was 
because most of the escapers were shot. 50 of them, shot in the back by the 
Gestapo while they were urinating in fields on lonely country lanes.
 

 What amazes me was not that this action drew enormous outrage, I'm sure most 
would agree that it rightly should, but when you look at the insanity all 
around - the massive slaughter on the Eastern front etc - I was just a bit 
surprised that the Red Cross and allied governments spent any time demanding an 
inquiry at the highest level. 
 

 The rules of war had been broken you see. That's the odd bit for me: It's OK 
for Germany to invade half the world, cause immense suffering and destroy any 
amount of priceless European cities, as long as they stick to the rules?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Will Give You New Respect For The Sheer Number Who 
Died In WWII 

 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 It's all too easy to think of anything counted in the millions as an 
abstraction -- even if it's World War II, and the topic at hand is the millions 
of live...


 
 View on www.huffingtonpost.com 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, Rick after long felt thought and qualifying interviews for this job has 
brought me on to FFL as a chief enforcement officer [CEO] of yahoo-groups 
guidelines. I am honored to work for him. I have always looked up to him in the 
many years I have known him. As such I shall always be willing to switch on the 
moderating box within someone's membership to FFL to have their posts routed 
for prior moderation review before releasing them out to the larger list.  
-AJaiGuruYou!
 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Dear MJ; Son, I have not problem with your content here. My moderating 
interests are in the parity of the use and impact of words within the 
Yahoo-groups guidelines. Shocking as your content may be to some other people's 
sensibility these comment may possibly make fair conversation on Fairfieldlife 
at yahoo-groups [FFL] so long as there is some evident fact to back them up 
[reference to the testimony already in the FFL archive] ..and they are not used 
simply as a means to slur someone on a public forum. 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con artist and that he 
was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how deep or shallow the newly 
moderated waters are, you see.
 

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” 
and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on 
moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going 
forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines 
if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your 
cooperative collaboration on this.  
 -JaiGuruYou! 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Well, Rick after long felt thought and qualifying interviews for this job has 
brought me on to FFL as a chief enforcement officer [CEO] of yahoo-groups 
guidelines. I am honored to work for him. I have always looked up to him in the 
many years I have known him. As such I shall always be willing to switch on the 
moderating box within someone's membership to FFL to have their posts routed 
for prior moderation review before releasing them out to the larger list.  
-AJaiGuruYou!
 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Dear MJ; Son, I have not problem with your content here. My moderating 
interests are in the parity of the use and impact of words within the 
Yahoo-groups guidelines. Shocking as your content may be to some other people's 
sensibility these comment may possibly make fair conversation on Fairfieldlife 
at yahoo-groups [FFL] so long as there is some evident fact to back them up 
[reference to the testimony already in the FFL archive] ..and they are not used 
simply as a means to slur someone on a public forum. 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con artist and that he 
was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how deep or shallow the newly 
moderated waters are, you see.
 

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess 

[FairfieldLife] Be Thankful for the Peace We Have

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jaw-Dropping Visualization Will Give You New Respect For The Sheer Number Who 
Died In WWII 

 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 
 Jaw-Dropping Visualization Shows The Sheer Number... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 It's all too easy to think of anything counted in the millions as an 
abstraction -- even if it's World War II, and the topic at hand is the millions 
of live...
 
 
 
 View on www.huffingtonpost.com 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/06/world-war-two-fatalities-visualized_n_7526390.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Well, Rick after long felt thought and qualifying interviews for this job has 
brought me on to FFL as a chief enforcement officer [CEO] of yahoo-groups 
guidelines. I am honored to work for him. I have always looked up to him in the 
many years I have known him. As such I shall always be willing to switch on the 
moderating box within someone's membership to FFL to have their posts routed 
for prior moderation review before releasing them out to the larger list.  
-AJaiGuruYou!
 

 Excellent news. I can think of four posters (we all know who they are) here 
who's sole contribution is trolling, insulting and trying to start and prolong 
petty, irrelevant arguments and petty grievances. I look forward to not having 
to scroll past their self-centred, topic-free drivel any longer. Great minds 
discuss ideas. Contribute constructively or leave!
 

 PS, don't let the power go to your head Doug. You may not like people's 
opinions but that doesn't mean they aren't valid. Make sure you judge us by 
what it says on the homepage rather than your own ideas about what FFL should 
be coz we'll be able to tell if you're picking on creative people for 
pre-moderation and leaving the whining trolls alone. They've gotta go. If you 
want to save this place that is, and what would be the point of a moderator if 
you don't?
 

 

 

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 Dear MJ; Son, I have not problem with your content here. My moderating 
interests are in the parity of the use and impact of words within the 
Yahoo-groups guidelines. Shocking as your content may be to some other people's 
sensibility these comment may possibly make fair conversation on Fairfieldlife 
at yahoo-groups [FFL] so long as there is some evident fact to back them up 
[reference to the testimony already in the FFL archive] ..and they are not used 
simply as a means to slur someone on a public forum. 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con artist and that he 
was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how deep or shallow the newly 
moderated waters are, you see.
 

 From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are you smarter than a (Hong Kong) six year old?

2015-06-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It took me only a couple of seconds, so curious, I asked six-year-old Maya, and 
she got it just as quickly. 

   

   From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:08 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are you smarter than a (Hong Kong) six year old?
   
    No - I'm not smarter than a Hong Kong six year old.
The answer (which I discovered via Google) is that we're looking at the numbers 
upside down. The car drivers would see them as 86 87 88 89 90 91.
Geddit? Kids haven't yet had their lateral-thinking ability educated out of 
them.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If this wordy, badly written, convoluted, and incoherent paragraph below is a 
sign of what's to come - and I think it is exactly what we can expect - then 
let the fun begin!

Hell and Handbasket come to mind.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Dear MJ; Son, I have not problem with your content here. My moderating 
interests are in the parity of the use and impact of words within the 
Yahoo-groups guidelines. Shocking as your content may be to some other people's 
sensibility these comment may possibly make fair conversation on Fairfieldlife 
at yahoo-groups [FFL] so long as there is some evident fact to back them up 
[reference to the testimony already in the FFL archive] ..and they are not used 
simply as a means to slur someone on a public forum. 
 -JaiGuruYou
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con artist and that he 
was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how deep or shallow the newly 
moderated waters are, you see.
 

 From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Peek behind the Curtain

2015-06-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 4:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Peek behind the Curtain
   
    I'm saying ... You stridently strutted outta here professing your 
independence and outrage. So stop being a pussy and live with it.Capisce?
Jimbo might also want to learn to live with the obvious FAILURE of his new 
forum. During the last week only four people besides himself posted there 
regularly. Three more people made two posts each. THIS is the forum that Judy 
Stein somehow believes people on FFL are jealous of.   :-)
Meanwhile, the Judester herself -- after having declared upon her return to FFL 
Barry and his acolytes can relax, BTW. I have no intention of starting to post 
regularly again -- has now made 31 posts, two-thirds of which involved dumping 
on Barry by name, and the remaining third involved dumping on other FFL posters 
who support him or don't mind him, and who she graciously calls thugs. Where 
is Doug screaming about Yahoo guideline violations when *she* does it, eh?

Crazy people. You can't live with 'em, and you can't live without 'em. 

Because they're crazy, and they won't LET you live without them.   :-)   :-)   
:-)       




  

[FairfieldLife] How you get fat?

2015-06-08 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would 
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on 
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting 
limit.
 
WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular 
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy 
making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time 
(wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than 
I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his 
silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander 
plays as moderator.

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO 
moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep 
questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have 
adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything 
per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this 
point.
 

 I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there 
if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of 
denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some 
sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you 
understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. 
Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go 
away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go 
away. 
 

 You are the trolls. Go away.
 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of 
the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the 
group owner. 
 

 Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post 
themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting 
privilege. 
 

  Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come 
right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines 
are quite reasonable.  -JaiGuruYou! 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Effective June 8 
 # 

 Your use of Groups is subject to these Guidelines,  Keep your content 
relevant to the group and moderate it correctly.
 Be courteous.
 Moderate your content.
 

 “Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other 
people's privacy.
 ..the group owner may remove your content — or you — from the group 
altogether.
 

 “2. Don't be unkind. Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in 
Groups. Also not welcome are belligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or 
ranting.” 
 

 Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group 
for profit or advantage;

 to use selfishly for one's own ends.
 

 Degrading: causing a loss of self-respect; humiliating
 

 Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, or attitude.
 

 Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. A 
disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult is an 
expression, statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or 
scornful.
 

 Slur: an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them 
or damage their reputation.
 

 Profanity: abusive, vulgar, or irreverent. 
 

 To Rant,  to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild 
over-vehement way; rave.
 

 Keep your content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly.  “Don't 
be unkind”. 
 

 We depend on each member to help keep it [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive 
place for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion, may terminate or 
remove any content, Group or your Yahoo ID immediately and without notice if 
(a) Yahoo believes that you have acted inconsistently with the spirit or the 
letter of the Yahoo Terms of Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) 
Yahoo believes you have violated or tried to violate the rights of others. 
Please help us keep Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience.
  
 If you see a Group or content that violates our rules, please let us know by 
contacting us [..yahoo-groups]. 
 

 

 

 #
 

 

 [..Some people evidently are not amenable to group collaborations which it 
seems is why groups, organizations or larger society may well protect and 
preserve themselves for the utility and well-being of their larger membership 
by removing or separating destructive asocial members.
 

 There is good reason to lack trust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by 
what has been allowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of a fear of 
getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of putting ones thoughts and 
self forward. Folks generally are denied the opportunity to think together with 
good people on FFL for all the snark of the ad hominem attack.
 

 It takes skills and practice to see discussion as thinking but it takes allies 
of kindness to think together creatively. For the engagement within a group 
[FFL] to be effective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to 
stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have a thinking forum.
 

 Truth evidently won't 'set us free' until we have the courage, skills, habit 
and moral courage to kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of civil 
discourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here to evenly protect 
civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up to the folks left here to 
seize if it can be had at all. Kind discourse has been 'thrown to the dogs' on 
FFL to tear up by a lack of moderation let alone any self-control.
 

 The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not 
protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean 
conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying 
Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo. 
Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.”
 

 In thinking together, people often may fail in process of creative thought out 
of fears to extend themselves individually in to the collective, for fear of 
engaging with evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may provoke 
unfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on to themselves by 
stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process' takes skills and 
practice to see dissonances as thinking and get good at it, to get beyond ego 
and not let it get out of control. Too many of the writers in character writing 
here derail creative thinking on FFL by their default to the assault of the 
personal invective instead of just commenting on a substance of the material 
brought. That abusive character has been really unfortunate for the larger FFL 
community.
 

 The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of 
engaging with people. That takes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets 
and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve 
problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a grip 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, MJ's reach for an honest contrition here in this thread seems quite 
admirable as is R-V's reasoning quite fair enough given all that has gone 
before. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks MJ. It was something I felt could be mentioned at the time with 
everyone talking about enlightenment, but very third person about it. I am 
inclined to open doors to see what is behind them. I always learn a lot. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 come to think of it, I believe you are right and I apologize to you here and 
now.
 

 From: reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
 
 
   MJ, Please find one post where I did that. I certainly stated it as obvious, 
but I never congratulated myself about it. That is a story someone else 
invented. I do recall someone posting all caps that I was not fucking 
enlightened, which is a little extreme, don't you think? It is a tough subject 
to talk about, especially 
 with the rest of life happening at the same time, and I am certainly neither a 
teacher or a scholar when it comes to writing about spirituality.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 have never seen anyone congratulating him- or herself on how intelligent or 
enlightened they really are.
 

 Jim did it plenty enough here on FFL.

 

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 5:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
 
 
   Before Barry and/or one or more of the Thugs decides to pile on, allow me to 
point out that there is actually only one person from The Peak, Jim, who posts 
here once in awhile. Doug and Steve have been posting on both forums all along. 
I don't post on The Peak at all and extremely rarely on FFL (this is my second 
brief visit since last June). Xeno never left FFL but slums over on The Peak.
 

 I think that about covers it. Did you have anyone else in mind? Or were you 
simply imagining things?
 

 And just for the record, I read The Peak occasionally and have never seen 
anyone congratulating him- or herself on how intelligent or enlightened they 
really are. I think you must have hallucinated that as well.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :

 
 Why are all these blustering blowhards scurrying back to FFL from the Peep? 
Must be really boring over there with everyone congratulating themselves about 
how intelligent they really are - oh, and enlightened too. 
 

 Seemed that they all left FFL in a big huff. So how come they're now still 
going on and on with the same old fluff? 

 

 So, ca... ca... can we jus... just get along? 

 You know ... being in Unity and all that.






 













 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Peek behind the Curtain

2015-06-08 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 4:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Peek behind the Curtain
 
 
   I'm saying ... You stridently strutted outta here professing your 
independence and outrage. So stop being a pussy and live with it.
 Capisce?
 

 Jimbo might also want to learn to live with the obvious FAILURE of his new 
forum. During the last week only four people besides himself posted there 
regularly. Three more people made two posts each. THIS is the forum that Judy 
Stein somehow believes people on FFL are jealous of.   :-)
 

 Meanwhile, the Judester herself -- after having declared upon her return to 
FFL Barry and his acolytes can relax, BTW. I have no intention of starting to 
post regularly again -- has now made 31 posts, two-thirds of which involved 
dumping on Barry by name, and the remaining third involved dumping on other FFL 
posters who support him or don't mind him, and who she graciously calls 
thugs. Where is Doug screaming about Yahoo guideline violations when *she* 
does it, eh?

 

 Crazy people. You can't live with 'em, and you can't live without 'em. 

 

 Because they're crazy, and they won't LET you live without them.   :-)   :-)   
:-)   
 

 

 Watching Judy the death of irony Stein trying to throw her weight around 
again has been fun. But not worth responding to as she's not taking part in any 
threads or postings things people might want to read. Except her fellow 
discontents and they don't count anymore either. 
 

 I shall ignore them as long as they insist on wasting months of their 
one-and-only precious lives saying the same thing over and over again. The very 
definition of insanity.















[FairfieldLife] Re: Freedom Summit

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
The Vermont senator received 208 of 511 delegate votes at the state convention 
in Milwaukee on Saturday, while Clinton won votes from 252 of the delegates, 
leaving her just short of a majority.

 

Wisconsin straw poll surprise: A narrow Clinton win 
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/wisconsin-straw-poll-surprise-a-narrow-clinton-win-118727.html
 
 
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/wisconsin-straw-poll-surprise-a-narrow-clinton-win-118727.html
 
 
 Wisconsin straw poll surprise: A narrow Clinton win 
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/wisconsin-straw-poll-surprise-a-narrow-clinton-win-118727.html
 Bernie Sanders scored 41 percent in a straw poll vote at the Wisconsin 
Democratic Party convention this weekend — finishing a close second to ...
 
 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Mr. Walker, whose early surge in national polls has receded, still enjoys a 
decisive lead in Iowa, thanks to an unflashy style that resonates with Iowans’ 
Midwestern sensibilities and to an unusual appeal across a wide ideological 
swath of Republicans.

 

Scott Walker Riding With Joni Ernst in Iowa as Rivals Give Chase 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0
 
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0
 
 Scott Walker Riding With Joni Ernst in Iowa as Rivals Gi... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0
 Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin was ready to mount a motorcycle Saturday for a 
“Roast and Ride” fund-raiser, but Republican challenges lie ahead.


 
 View on www.nytimes.com 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
 After his Thursday launch, Perry will head to Iowa, where on Saturday he'll 
be in the city of Perry to kick off a Ride with Rick event that benefits the 
Puppy Jake Foundation, a non-profit that provides service dogs to wounded 
veterans.
 

 Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White House - CNNPolitics.com 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/

 
 
 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/
 
 Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White Hou... 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/
 This time, Rick Perry has nowhere to go but up.


 
 View on www.cnn.com 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 S.C. Senator Lindsey Graham has kicked off his presidential campaign.
 

 Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid 
http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html
 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html
 
 Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid 
http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html
 CENTRAL, S.C. (AP) — South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham has kicked off his 
presidential campaign.


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 She is now seriously questioning the mental health of both of the Clintons.
 

 Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ 
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ 
 
 http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/
 
 Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ 
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ A 
Free Press For A Free People Since 1997


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 The vast expansion of the spy state and the corresponding erosion of our 
Constitutional rights has not made America safer. 
 

 Sen. Rand Paul: I Will Stop the Illegal NSA Spying 
http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/
 
 
 
http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/
 
 Sen. Rand Paul: I Will Stop the Illegal NSA Spying 
http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/
 We have all the tools we need to preserve both security and liberty


 
 View on time.com 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Did you have some comment to make on what I wrote, Xeno, or were these just 
some random thoughts? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 People rarely see eye to eye. Everyone here has characterised other's ideas 
and behaviour in ways that that particular person thought was inaccurate. 
Frankly I find interpreting other people's motivations a mystery, it's like a 
black box. There are some who think they are 'good' at this, knowing exactly 
what the other person is doing and why. I consider that a smoke screen for 
trying to justify a particular position, which is one person's idea of what the 
other is doing and why. Having gotten through about 3/4th of a book written by 
a diagnosed sociopath, assuming the content of the book was a truthful 
reflection, a very charming person might simply be manipulating a situation for 
entirely personal gains, seeing people basically as piece on a chessboard to be 
moved at will by manipulating their weaknesses. 

 If we are that bad at interpreting true motivation, how could a moderator be 
any better at it, making judgements based on what we cannot really know, only 
what we opine we know? An opinion only represents our pretence that we know 
something, opinions tend to represent emotional states, not facts.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Actually, Rick didn't say anything about trying to determine exactly who is 
disrupting Fairfield Life He simply said he might appoint a moderator 
because he doesn't believe in enabling abusive behavior. Presumably once the 
moderator has taken over, the abusive behavior here will no longer be 
tolerated. 

 I hope one thing the moderator looks out for and sanctions is 
misrepresentation of and/or attempts to mislead about other members' behavior. 
With regard to the 18 posts of mine Barry mentions below, it would be helpful 
to look at the posts I was responding to. (The total number of my posts to FFL 
between last June and today is 31, made during two brief visits.)
 

 I am not a member of The Peak, technically or otherwise. I have no private 
communication with its members but do read it off and on, as I do FFL. I have 
on occasion defended The Peak and its members from false and abusive comments 
made on FFL, of which there have been many (not enumerated here by Barry).
 

 It's not clear to me that anyone is attempting to disrupt FFL. As far as I 
can see, there is a continuation over the last few days of a long-standing FFL 
discussion having to do with the persistent abuse of TM supporters by non-TM 
supporters.
 

 It should also be noted that of the five Peak members who have been posting 
here, two (Doug and Steve) have been posting to FFL all along. One (Xeno) is 
primarily an FFL member who occasionally posts to The Peak. One (Richard) posts 
almost exclusively to FFL. And one (Jim) has posted very little to FFL until 
quite recently. The notion promoted by some FFL members that there has been a 
sudden invasion of FFL by Peak members bent on disruption is false.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Hi Rick, 

I am pleased to hear that you're going to look into the moderation issue and 
try to determine exactly who is disrupting Fairfield Life and creating a 
negative experience for posters who have chosen to remain there and post, as 
opposed to moving over to The_Peak. To help you decide where exactly the 
problem lies, and who you might need to moderate, here are some interesting 
statistics for you to ponder:

-- Number of posts made in June to The_Peak by FFL members that were designed 
and intended to complain about The_Peak and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  0 (zero)

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by The_Peak members that were designed 
and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  131

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by Judy Stein (technically not a member 
of The_Peak) that were designed and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt 
that group's ongoing conversations:  18
 
Seems to me that there is a concerted effort by members of another group 
(The_Leak) and one of their sympathizers (Judy Stein) to disrupt Fairfield 
Life. Meanwhile, there is NO corresponding attempt by anyone at FFL to go over 
to The_Peak and disrupt *their* conversations. 

I think these statistics speak for themselves as to who needs moderation, but 
you decide...

Barry

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 

 



 I believe when you say Rick is enabling a certain behaviour, you are really 
saying he is not preventing behaviour you would rather not see. He is not 
enabling, its laissez-faire, a policy or attitude of letting things take their 
own course, without interfering. When you use the word enabling, you are 
assuming Rick wants to have that kind of behaviour to which 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If thoughts are spontaneous, does that mean they are random? Might be, might 
not be. How could you tell?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Did you have some comment to make on what I wrote, Xeno, or were these just 
some random thoughts? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 People rarely see eye to eye. Everyone here has characterised other's ideas 
and behaviour in ways that that particular person thought was inaccurate. 
Frankly I find interpreting other people's motivations a mystery, it's like a 
black box. There are some who think they are 'good' at this, knowing exactly 
what the other person is doing and why. I consider that a smoke screen for 
trying to justify a particular position, which is one person's idea of what the 
other is doing and why. Having gotten through about 3/4th of a book written by 
a diagnosed sociopath, assuming the content of the book was a truthful 
reflection, a very charming person might simply be manipulating a situation for 
entirely personal gains, seeing people basically as piece on a chessboard to be 
moved at will by manipulating their weaknesses. 

 If we are that bad at interpreting true motivation, how could a moderator be 
any better at it, making judgements based on what we cannot really know, only 
what we opine we know? An opinion only represents our pretence that we know 
something, opinions tend to represent emotional states, not facts.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Actually, Rick didn't say anything about trying to determine exactly who is 
disrupting Fairfield Life He simply said he might appoint a moderator 
because he doesn't believe in enabling abusive behavior. Presumably once the 
moderator has taken over, the abusive behavior here will no longer be 
tolerated. 

 I hope one thing the moderator looks out for and sanctions is 
misrepresentation of and/or attempts to mislead about other members' behavior. 
With regard to the 18 posts of mine Barry mentions below, it would be helpful 
to look at the posts I was responding to. (The total number of my posts to FFL 
between last June and today is 31, made during two brief visits.)
 

 I am not a member of The Peak, technically or otherwise. I have no private 
communication with its members but do read it off and on, as I do FFL. I have 
on occasion defended The Peak and its members from false and abusive comments 
made on FFL, of which there have been many (not enumerated here by Barry).
 

 It's not clear to me that anyone is attempting to disrupt FFL. As far as I 
can see, there is a continuation over the last few days of a long-standing FFL 
discussion having to do with the persistent abuse of TM supporters by non-TM 
supporters.
 

 It should also be noted that of the five Peak members who have been posting 
here, two (Doug and Steve) have been posting to FFL all along. One (Xeno) is 
primarily an FFL member who occasionally posts to The Peak. One (Richard) posts 
almost exclusively to FFL. And one (Jim) has posted very little to FFL until 
quite recently. The notion promoted by some FFL members that there has been a 
sudden invasion of FFL by Peak members bent on disruption is false.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Hi Rick, 

I am pleased to hear that you're going to look into the moderation issue and 
try to determine exactly who is disrupting Fairfield Life and creating a 
negative experience for posters who have chosen to remain there and post, as 
opposed to moving over to The_Peak. To help you decide where exactly the 
problem lies, and who you might need to moderate, here are some interesting 
statistics for you to ponder:

-- Number of posts made in June to The_Peak by FFL members that were designed 
and intended to complain about The_Peak and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  0 (zero)

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by The_Peak members that were designed 
and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  131

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by Judy Stein (technically not a member 
of The_Peak) that were designed and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt 
that group's ongoing conversations:  18
 
Seems to me that there is a concerted effort by members of another group 
(The_Leak) and one of their sympathizers (Judy Stein) to disrupt Fairfield 
Life. Meanwhile, there is NO corresponding attempt by anyone at FFL to go over 
to The_Peak and disrupt *their* conversations. 

I think these statistics speak for themselves as to who needs moderation, but 
you decide...

Barry

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 

 



 I believe when you say Rick is enabling a certain behaviour, you are really 
saying he is not preventing behaviour you would rather not see. He is not 
enabling, its laissez-faire, a policy or 

Re: [FairfieldLife] How you get fat?

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Live From Austin

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Asleep At The Wheel Live- Miles and Miles of Texas  Get Your Kicks on Route 
66 https://youtu.be/fTh-4Ss07AE 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Willie Nelson - Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain (Live From Austin TX) 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tough Enough (Live) 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Does the You are holding... refer to me? If it refers to me, you didn't 
understand the post. Read it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 
















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?
  From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
   
    In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled 
differently. People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along 
with their handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that 
only their handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in 
my posts' headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. 
That would be pretty silly after all this time.

But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con artist and that he 
was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how deep or shallow the newly 
moderated waters are, you see.

  From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
   
    We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote :

Sad news. 

Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on 
a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the kingdom. 
I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just suggesting a 
procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

  From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

ThanksR-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded empathy 
in experiencefor the well-being of FFL.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

'Don'tbe Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightenedin 
their guidance. 
Forinstance,
“Ifone is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. Bynegative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches andmuddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God'screative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, thebody starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health andlifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excesssunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained bycosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for 
creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. 
The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would 
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on 
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting 
limit.

WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular 
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy 
making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time 
(wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than 
I 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
People rarely see eye to eye. Everyone here has characterised other's ideas and 
behaviour in ways that that particular person thought was inaccurate. Frankly I 
find interpreting other people's motivations a mystery, it's like a black box. 
There are some who think they are 'good' at this, knowing exactly what the 
other person is doing and why. I consider that a smoke screen for trying to 
justify a particular position, which is one person's idea of what the other is 
doing and why. Having gotten through about 3/4th of a book written by a 
diagnosed sociopath, assuming the content of the book was a truthful 
reflection, a very charming person might simply be manipulating a situation for 
entirely personal gains, seeing people basically as piece on a chessboard to be 
moved at will by manipulating their weaknesses. 

 If we are that bad at interpreting true motivation, how could a moderator be 
any better at it, making judgements based on what we cannot really know, only 
what we opine we know? An opinion only represents our pretence that we know 
something, opinions tend to represent emotional states, not facts.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Actually, Rick didn't say anything about trying to determine exactly who is 
disrupting Fairfield Life He simply said he might appoint a moderator 
because he doesn't believe in enabling abusive behavior. Presumably once the 
moderator has taken over, the abusive behavior here will no longer be 
tolerated. 

 I hope one thing the moderator looks out for and sanctions is 
misrepresentation of and/or attempts to mislead about other members' behavior. 
With regard to the 18 posts of mine Barry mentions below, it would be helpful 
to look at the posts I was responding to. (The total number of my posts to FFL 
between last June and today is 31, made during two brief visits.)
 

 I am not a member of The Peak, technically or otherwise. I have no private 
communication with its members but do read it off and on, as I do FFL. I have 
on occasion defended The Peak and its members from false and abusive comments 
made on FFL, of which there have been many (not enumerated here by Barry).
 

 It's not clear to me that anyone is attempting to disrupt FFL. As far as I 
can see, there is a continuation over the last few days of a long-standing FFL 
discussion having to do with the persistent abuse of TM supporters by non-TM 
supporters.
 

 It should also be noted that of the five Peak members who have been posting 
here, two (Doug and Steve) have been posting to FFL all along. One (Xeno) is 
primarily an FFL member who occasionally posts to The Peak. One (Richard) posts 
almost exclusively to FFL. And one (Jim) has posted very little to FFL until 
quite recently. The notion promoted by some FFL members that there has been a 
sudden invasion of FFL by Peak members bent on disruption is false.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Hi Rick, 

I am pleased to hear that you're going to look into the moderation issue and 
try to determine exactly who is disrupting Fairfield Life and creating a 
negative experience for posters who have chosen to remain there and post, as 
opposed to moving over to The_Peak. To help you decide where exactly the 
problem lies, and who you might need to moderate, here are some interesting 
statistics for you to ponder:

-- Number of posts made in June to The_Peak by FFL members that were designed 
and intended to complain about The_Peak and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  0 (zero)

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by The_Peak members that were designed 
and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  131

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by Judy Stein (technically not a member 
of The_Peak) that were designed and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt 
that group's ongoing conversations:  18
 
Seems to me that there is a concerted effort by members of another group 
(The_Leak) and one of their sympathizers (Judy Stein) to disrupt Fairfield 
Life. Meanwhile, there is NO corresponding attempt by anyone at FFL to go over 
to The_Peak and disrupt *their* conversations. 

I think these statistics speak for themselves as to who needs moderation, but 
you decide...

Barry

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 

 



 I believe when you say Rick is enabling a certain behaviour, you are really 
saying he is not preventing behaviour you would rather not see. He is not 
enabling, its laissez-faire, a policy or attitude of letting things take their 
own course, without interfering. When you use the word enabling, you are 
assuming Rick wants to have that kind of behaviour to which you have so far 
objected. But now that you see he is just letting things take their natural 
course, that should not be a problem any more. 
  

 I do not think 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Seems to me we're starting right out with abuse of Doug, before he's done 
anything at all. 

 Nobody, of course, will fall off the radar if they're banned. They can 
always email Rick (or Alex, if he's still functioning in the moderator realm).
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 
 











RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I believe you know what random means and how I was using it in this context.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 If thoughts are spontaneous, does that mean they are random? Might be, might 
not be. How could you tell?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Did you have some comment to make on what I wrote, Xeno, or were these just 
some random thoughts? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 People rarely see eye to eye. Everyone here has characterised other's ideas 
and behaviour in ways that that particular person thought was inaccurate. 
Frankly I find interpreting other people's motivations a mystery, it's like a 
black box. There are some who think they are 'good' at this, knowing exactly 
what the other person is doing and why. I consider that a smoke screen for 
trying to justify a particular position, which is one person's idea of what the 
other is doing and why. Having gotten through about 3/4th of a book written by 
a diagnosed sociopath, assuming the content of the book was a truthful 
reflection, a very charming person might simply be manipulating a situation for 
entirely personal gains, seeing people basically as piece on a chessboard to be 
moved at will by manipulating their weaknesses. 

 If we are that bad at interpreting true motivation, how could a moderator be 
any better at it, making judgements based on what we cannot really know, only 
what we opine we know? An opinion only represents our pretence that we know 
something, opinions tend to represent emotional states, not facts.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Actually, Rick didn't say anything about trying to determine exactly who is 
disrupting Fairfield Life He simply said he might appoint a moderator 
because he doesn't believe in enabling abusive behavior. Presumably once the 
moderator has taken over, the abusive behavior here will no longer be 
tolerated. 

 I hope one thing the moderator looks out for and sanctions is 
misrepresentation of and/or attempts to mislead about other members' behavior. 
With regard to the 18 posts of mine Barry mentions below, it would be helpful 
to look at the posts I was responding to. (The total number of my posts to FFL 
between last June and today is 31, made during two brief visits.)
 

 I am not a member of The Peak, technically or otherwise. I have no private 
communication with its members but do read it off and on, as I do FFL. I have 
on occasion defended The Peak and its members from false and abusive comments 
made on FFL, of which there have been many (not enumerated here by Barry).
 

 It's not clear to me that anyone is attempting to disrupt FFL. As far as I 
can see, there is a continuation over the last few days of a long-standing FFL 
discussion having to do with the persistent abuse of TM supporters by non-TM 
supporters.
 

 It should also be noted that of the five Peak members who have been posting 
here, two (Doug and Steve) have been posting to FFL all along. One (Xeno) is 
primarily an FFL member who occasionally posts to The Peak. One (Richard) posts 
almost exclusively to FFL. And one (Jim) has posted very little to FFL until 
quite recently. The notion promoted by some FFL members that there has been a 
sudden invasion of FFL by Peak members bent on disruption is false.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Hi Rick, 

I am pleased to hear that you're going to look into the moderation issue and 
try to determine exactly who is disrupting Fairfield Life and creating a 
negative experience for posters who have chosen to remain there and post, as 
opposed to moving over to The_Peak. To help you decide where exactly the 
problem lies, and who you might need to moderate, here are some interesting 
statistics for you to ponder:

-- Number of posts made in June to The_Peak by FFL members that were designed 
and intended to complain about The_Peak and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  0 (zero)

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by The_Peak members that were designed 
and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  131

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by Judy Stein (technically not a member 
of The_Peak) that were designed and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt 
that group's ongoing conversations:  18
 
Seems to me that there is a concerted effort by members of another group 
(The_Leak) and one of their sympathizers (Judy Stein) to disrupt Fairfield 
Life. Meanwhile, there is NO corresponding attempt by anyone at FFL to go over 
to The_Peak and disrupt *their* conversations. 

I think these statistics speak for themselves as to who needs moderation, but 
you decide...

Barry

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 

 



 I believe when you say Rick is enabling a 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi Rick, 

I am pleased to hear that you're going to look into the moderation issue and 
try to determine exactly who is disrupting Fairfield Life and creating a 
negative experience for posters who have chosen to remain there and post, as 
opposed to moving over to The_Peak. To help you decide where exactly the 
problem lies, and who you might need to moderate, here are some interesting 
statistics for you to ponder:

-- Number of posts made in June to The_Peak by FFL members that were designed 
and intended to complain about The_Peak and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  0 (zero)

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by The_Peak members that were designed 
and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  131

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by Judy Stein (technically not a member 
of The_Peak) that were designed and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt 
that group's ongoing conversations:  18
 
Seems to me that there is a concerted effort by members of another group 
(The_Leak) and one of their sympathizers (Judy Stein) to disrupt Fairfield 
Life. Meanwhile, there is NO corresponding attempt by anyone at FFL to go over 
to The_Peak and disrupt *their* conversations. 

I think these statistics speak for themselves as to who needs moderation, but 
you decide...

Barry

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 

 



 I believe when you say Rick is enabling a certain behaviour, you are really 
saying he is not preventing behaviour you would rather not see. He is not 
enabling, its laissez-faire, a policy or attitude of letting things take their 
own course, without interfering. When you use the word enabling, you are 
assuming Rick wants to have that kind of behaviour to which you have so far 
objected. But now that you see he is just letting things take their natural 
course, that should not be a problem any more. 
  

 I do not think Rick has an intentional stance to enable, is just letting go, 
as when one lets go of a mantra and it goes and changes however it goes. The 
individual posters enable whatever happens because they are the one producing 
the content. But content here comes from thought, and thought is spontaneous, 
it comes effortlessly and naturally, so really, nature itself is what enables 
what happens here, and everywhere else for that matter. I believe you are 
attributing intentionality incorrectly. When I say 'believe', that means it's 
an opinion, not necessarily true, though it could be.
  
 That’s a fair assessment. I give little attention to FFL because I’m so busy 
with other things. But I’ve gotten so many complaints recently that I may 
appoint a moderator soon, and will announce it when I do. I don’t believe in 
censorship, but I also don’t believe in enabling abusive behavior.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@... wrote :
 Sort of. It took me awhile to recognize that this place has been allowed to 
deteriorate one post at a time,  deliberately. Once I saw that, that this is 
Rick's intention and legacy, I was OK with it. 
  

 For the longest time, I simply thought he wasn't doing his job as moderator, 
when in fact he is precisely enabling the behavior he wants to see on here, and 
always has been. 
  

 I have no issues with that at all - like I said, it just took me awhile to see 
it. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 The funny thing is the more they go on about FFL and the need for moderating 
the more Rick is likely to keep it up the way it is.  After what FFL has always 
been is a place for people who have on thing in common, that they were involved 
in TM, to share their outlook on everything, not just TM or spirituality.  I've 
always said it's like the off topic sections many forums have.











 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Just for the record, I should point out that Rick banned me from the group 
without sending me a single message or email explaining why. So, I appealed to 
him and he reinstated my posting privileges. Apparently an informant objected 
to my using their real name, although they had previously posted under their 
real name. Go figure.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 The really sad part of this is that Barry has not apologized to me for over 
two decades for posting my real name on a.m.t. Go figure.
 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would 
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on 
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting 
limit.
 
WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular 
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would 
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on 
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting 
limit.
 
WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular 
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy 
making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time 
(wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than 
I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his 
silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander 
plays as moderator.

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Let's just see how it turns out. We could always create Fairfield Life II if it 
does not. Here is the current description of Fairfield Life, in case any of us 
have forgotten: 

 Group Description Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and 
finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to 
Maharishi University of Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. 
There are about 2000 Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as 
many others pursuing various spiritual paths.

What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is 
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell

We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not 
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. Discussions also draw 
from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, 
Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc.

The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions. ~ The I Ching

Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.

Whatever you think, it's more than that ~ Incredible String Band

You can lurk without joining, but you have to join to post. Members can access 
Files, Photos, Links, and Database.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I 
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. 
~ Buddha

Take what you need and leave the rest. ~ The Band

I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for 
the truth; and truth rewarded me. ~ Simone de Beauvoir

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
-JaiGuruYou 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Sad news. 

 

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually, Rick didn't say anything about trying to determine exactly who is 
disrupting Fairfield Life He simply said he might appoint a moderator 
because he doesn't believe in enabling abusive behavior. Presumably once the 
moderator has taken over, the abusive behavior here will no longer be 
tolerated. 

 I hope one thing the moderator looks out for and sanctions is 
misrepresentation of and/or attempts to mislead about other members' behavior. 
With regard to the 18 posts of mine Barry mentions below, it would be helpful 
to look at the posts I was responding to. (The total number of my posts to FFL 
between last June and today is 31, made during two brief visits.)
 

 I am not a member of The Peak, technically or otherwise. I have no private 
communication with its members but do read it off and on, as I do FFL. I have 
on occasion defended The Peak and its members from false and abusive comments 
made on FFL, of which there have been many (not enumerated here by Barry).
 

 It's not clear to me that anyone is attempting to disrupt FFL. As far as I 
can see, there is a continuation over the last few days of a long-standing FFL 
discussion having to do with the persistent abuse of TM supporters by non-TM 
supporters.
 

 It should also be noted that of the five Peak members who have been posting 
here, two (Doug and Steve) have been posting to FFL all along. One (Xeno) is 
primarily an FFL member who occasionally posts to The Peak. One (Richard) posts 
almost exclusively to FFL. And one (Jim) has posted very little to FFL until 
quite recently. The notion promoted by some FFL members that there has been a 
sudden invasion of FFL by Peak members bent on disruption is false.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Hi Rick, 

I am pleased to hear that you're going to look into the moderation issue and 
try to determine exactly who is disrupting Fairfield Life and creating a 
negative experience for posters who have chosen to remain there and post, as 
opposed to moving over to The_Peak. To help you decide where exactly the 
problem lies, and who you might need to moderate, here are some interesting 
statistics for you to ponder:

-- Number of posts made in June to The_Peak by FFL members that were designed 
and intended to complain about The_Peak and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  0 (zero)

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by The_Peak members that were designed 
and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt that group's ongoing 
conversations:  131

-- Number of posts made in June to FFL by Judy Stein (technically not a member 
of The_Peak) that were designed and intended to complain about FFL and disrupt 
that group's ongoing conversations:  18
 
Seems to me that there is a concerted effort by members of another group 
(The_Leak) and one of their sympathizers (Judy Stein) to disrupt Fairfield 
Life. Meanwhile, there is NO corresponding attempt by anyone at FFL to go over 
to The_Peak and disrupt *their* conversations. 

I think these statistics speak for themselves as to who needs moderation, but 
you decide...

Barry

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 

 



 I believe when you say Rick is enabling a certain behaviour, you are really 
saying he is not preventing behaviour you would rather not see. He is not 
enabling, its laissez-faire, a policy or attitude of letting things take their 
own course, without interfering. When you use the word enabling, you are 
assuming Rick wants to have that kind of behaviour to which you have so far 
objected. But now that you see he is just letting things take their natural 
course, that should not be a problem any more. 
  

 I do not think Rick has an intentional stance to enable, is just letting go, 
as when one lets go of a mantra and it goes and changes however it goes. The 
individual posters enable whatever happens because they are the one producing 
the content. But content here comes from thought, and thought is spontaneous, 
it comes effortlessly and naturally, so really, nature itself is what enables 
what happens here, and everywhere else for that matter. I believe you are 
attributing intentionality incorrectly. When I say 'believe', that means it's 
an opinion, not necessarily true, though it could be.
  
 That’s a fair assessment. I give little attention to FFL because I’m so busy 
with other things. But I’ve gotten so many complaints recently that I may 
appoint a moderator soon, and will announce it when I do. I don’t believe in 
censorship, but I also don’t believe in enabling abusive behavior.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@... wrote :
 Sort of. It took me awhile to recognize that this place has been allowed to 
deteriorate one post at a time,  deliberately. Once I saw that, that this is 
Rick's intention and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 
 

 For instance,
 

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back 
for creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.  

 The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would 
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on 
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting 
limit.
 
WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular 
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy 
making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time 
(wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than 
I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his 
silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander 
plays as moderator.

 

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO 
moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep 
questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have 
adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything 
per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this 
point.
 

 I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there 
if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of 
denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some 
sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you 
understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. 
Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go 
away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go 
away. 
 

 You are the trolls. Go away.
 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of 
the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the 
group owner. 
 

 Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post 
themselves or a moderator remove it and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Peek behind the Curtain

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 /Apparently, nobody currently posting to this forum has ever made this
claim. Correct me if I am wrong about this. It does not follow that because
Judy objects to anyone posting lies about her, and that she practices TM,
she does not have clarity in her messages. It seems pretty clear to me:

STOP LYING and telling fibs about Judy behind her back. It's not
complicated. /

Quoting emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]:

Perhaps that is just my perception, but unfortunately, that presents an
obvious argument that TM doesn’t really develop the clarity of the
witnessing neuro-physiology as claimed by true believers.

/Non sequitur./
 


 

 Xeno,

Thank you for remaining in a state of apatheiatowards Judy's agitating
assalts towards you. In her absence from FFL, my memory became numb
regarding her willful intransigence. However, her FFL persona once again
appears only bounded by her current choice of likes and dislikes -
something variable from season to season, poster to poster. This
character trait indicates a petty (sometimes viciously petty) mentality
– something self-serving in function and compulsive in expression.

  

 Like you and many readers here, I overlook Barry’s baiting barbs
and self-involved vignettes. After all, on FFL we are free to ignore or
reply as we see fit - doing the same thing that Barry professes. At
least Barry offers some original assertions and views – all of that
rather than the old, “you are a liar, a thief and an uncharged

felon”. 


  

 I can read your posts only sometimes because I have limited
available time - if at all. But, when I do, I still appreciate the
/apatheia/. Many of our posting folks seem to lack even the semblance of
dispassion. Perhaps that is just my perception, but unfortunately, that
presents an obvious argument that TM doesn’t really develop the clarity
of the witnessing neuro-physiology as claimed by true believers.  

  

  






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sad news. 

Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on 
a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the kingdom. 
I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just suggesting a 
procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

  From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
   
    As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

ThanksR-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded empathy 
in experiencefor the well-being of FFL.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

'Don'tbe Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightenedin 
their guidance. 
Forinstance,
“Ifone is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. Bynegative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches andmuddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God'screative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, thebody starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health andlifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excesssunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained bycosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for 
creating a free speech zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the 
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the 
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. 
The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, 
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous 
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, 
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and 
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick 
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, 
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would 
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on 
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting 
limit.

WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular 
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy 
making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time 
(wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than 
I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his 
silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander 
plays as moderator.

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO 
moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good and Evil Shaking Hands. The following is from the MUM website:
 Resilience and the Coexistence of Opposites 

 Resilience is most powerful when opposites are harmonized in a system. Peters 
and Waterman expressed this idea in their seminal book In Search of Excellence 
(1982) as the concept of simultaneous loose/tightcoupling. It is also central 
in Maharishi’s teaching about the coexistence of opposites, which is a 
characteristic of Creative Intelligence, which grows as consciousness expands 
due to the practice of Transcendental Meditation (SCI Manual, 1972).  What do I 
mean? In this blog post I will explain. This post is somewhat abstract, so I 
will try to make it accessible.
 Whenever we have a personal quality, say being very stable, if we do not also 
have its opposite there is a lack of resilience. Stability without adaptability 
creates a situation of stubbornness and inflexibility, thus resistance to 
change. On the other hand adaptability without stability yields frazzled, 
frenzied change without apparent direction. Individuals and companies can 
display this unintegrated weakness. Or they can be resilient and successful.
 Resilience means robustness. It implies both core stability and the openness 
to innovate. This is the simultaneous loose/ tight that is referred to in the 
book In Search of Excellence as the last of their eight principles and in many 
ways the summary point. A firm’s accounting department represents tight 
controls, and the creative advertising and RD departments are loose and 
innovative. But this quality is engendered in all employees in excellent 
companies. This co-existence is explained by Peters and Waterman as follows:
 It is in essence the co-existence of firm central direction and maximum 
individual autonomy−what we have called “having one’s cake and eating it too.” 
Organizations that live by the loose-tight principle are on the one hand 
rigidly controlled, yet at the same time allow (indeed, insist on) autonomy, 
entrepreneurship, and innovation, from the rank and file. (p. 318).
 The reason that opposites have to be present for resilience is found in 
ecological and social systems. Traditions and instinctive behavior represent 
stability, and innovation and adaptation, adaptability, are both essential for 
resilience.
 Maharishi has described other opposites, such as the absolute never changing 
and the relative always changing poles of our lives. Other ways of stating this 
are silence and dynamism, heart and intellect, mind and body. We know that we 
are connected to the universe. In truth our essence, the Self, is the basic 
constituent of the universe in the same way as the sap is the essential 
constituent of a plant or tree, and in truth sap is everywhere present in the 
plant or tree. When we are competent to connect our individual consciousness to 
the unbounded quality of inner wakefulness, the Self, we gain true resilience, 
true coexistence of opposites. This expansion of consciousness attunes us to 
the cosmic intelligence of the universe, of which we are. The result is inner 
peace and fulfillment.
 (There is something good in this, but we don't have to agree with it all, 
there might be a better explanation put forward.)

 













RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

 

  

We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. –JaiGuruYou

It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. 

Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. 
With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in 
very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature 
of it has contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are 
obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent 
violation of those guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has 
volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to 
Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status. 

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com  wrote :

Sad news. 

 

Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on 
a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the kingdom. 
I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just suggesting a 
procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

  _  

From:  mailto:j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com%20[FairfieldLife] 
j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

 

 

As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


---In  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   



---In  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:reverse_arch...@yahoo.com reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...

 

---In  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 

 

For instance,

 

“If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and 
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic 
current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91

 

 



---In  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:reverse_archery@... reverse_archery@... wrote :

Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for 

[FairfieldLife] Re: We Were There

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
There are many annual events in Austin. Two well known music festivals are held 
here - South by Southwest Music, Film and Interactive Festival and the Austin 
City Limits Music Festival. Austin is home to The Texas Longhorns (national 
champions 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005) and the Circuit of the Americas Grand Prix 
Formula 1 races and the ESPN X-Games extreme sports.
 

 

 Greater Austin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Austin 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Austin 
 
 Greater Austin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Austin Austin–Round Rock is a five-county 
metropolitan area in the U.S. state of Texas, as defined by the Office of 
Management and Budget.[2] Commonly...
 
 
 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Austin 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 
 Friday at X: Skateboard Big Air 
http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air
 
 
 
http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air
 
 Friday at X: Skateboard Big Air 
http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air
 America's Navy Skateboard Big Air closed down an action-packed Friday night on 
Day 2 of X Games Austin 2015. Of the 10 competitors -- four of them teenagers 
-- ...


 
 View on espn.go.com 
http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote :

 At the Circuit of the Americas:
 

 http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg 
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg

 
 
 http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg
 
 http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg 
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg

 
 View on www.rwilliams.us http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 X Games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games

 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games
 
 X Games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games The X Games is an annual sports event, 
controlled and arranged by American sports broadcaster ESPN (with coverage also 
shown on its sister network ABC),...


 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athletes, preview content and 
more -- June 4-7 http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/

 
 
 http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/
 
 X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athlete... 
http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ X Games Austin 2015 tickets, 
schedules, results, athletes, preview content and more -- June 4-7


 
 View on xgames.espn.go.com http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 



  




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for responding, Rick. While you're still here, can you please explain to 
us exactly HOW Doug will enforce the sentence I've highlighted below in red? 
What exactly is he allowed to do and not do to ensure adherence to Yahoo's 
guidelines? 

My experience is that it's better to ask these kinds of questions *before* 
possible abuse of authority happens, not afterwards. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show


  
  
 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
–JaiGuruYou
 It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. 
 Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. 
With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in 
very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature 
of it has contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are 
obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent 
violation of those guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has 
volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to 
Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status. 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 Sad news. 

  

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

  

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

  

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

  

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

  

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

  
 
 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...%20[FairfieldLife]; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

  
  
 As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

  

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@... wrote :
 Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in 
their guidance. 

  

 For instance,

  

 “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative 
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the 
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching 
him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances 
and one's health and lifespan is compromised. 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 9:58 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

 

  

Thanks for responding, Rick. While you're still here, can you please explain to 
us exactly HOW Doug will enforce the sentence I've highlighted below in red? 
What exactly is he allowed to do and not do to ensure adherence to Yahoo's 
guidelines? 

My experience is that it's better to ask these kinds of questions *before* 
possible abuse of authority happens, not afterwards. 

I actually don’t know. I don’t know if he does either. Let’s see what he does 
and evaluate it.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
rick@... mailto:rick@...  wrote :

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

 

 

We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. –JaiGuruYou

It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. 

Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. 
With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in 
very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature 
of it has contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are 
obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent 
violation of those guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has 
volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to 
Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status. 

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@...  wrote :

Sad news. 

 

Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on 
a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

 

I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

 

So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

 

Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

 

I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the kingdom. 
I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just suggesting a 
procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

 

  _  

From:  mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...%20[FairfieldLife] 
j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

 

 

As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...  wrote :

Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded 
empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL.   



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
reverse_archery@... mailto:reverse_archery@...  wrote :

Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your 
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, 
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you 
all the best in your new role...

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...  wrote :

'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 /A troll posting on the very first day with the new FFL moderator?

2. Be courteous. Everyone wants to be treated with respect, and showing
respect to others makes the community better for all members.

https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm/

Quoting Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com:


 
  Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con
artist and that he was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how
deep or shallow the newly moderated waters are, you see.


-
FROM: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
TO: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
SENT: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
SUBJECT: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

  
  We sat over this together in church the other day.  It
will be fine. -JaiGuruYou

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote :

  /SAD NEWS./
    
   /MIGHT I PROPOSE, BEFORE DOUG STARTS BANNING PEOPLE,
THAT YOU AND RICK INSIST ON A FEW GUIDELINES FOR *HIM* WHEN HE DOES
THIS./
    
   /I'M SUGGESTING THIS BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE HERE IS
AWARE THAT DOUG IS...UH...NOT QUITE IN TOUCH WITH REALITY THESE DAYS,
AND TENDS TO SEE THINGS THAT AREN'T REALLY THERE./
    
   /SO WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT IF HE IS INDEED GIVEN THE
POWER TO BAN SOMEONE, HE CANNOT DO SO WITHOUT REPOSTING *THE EXACT POST*
THAT DOUG FEELS IS IN VIOLATION OF THE YAHOO GUIDELINES, AND WITHOUT
EXPLAINING TO THE GROUP *EXACTLY WHY* HE THINKS THIS POSTER NEEDS TO BE
BANNED./
    
   /OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. DOUG
WILL JUST BAN THE PEOPLE HE DOESN'T LIKE, WITHOUT TELLING *ANYONE*, AND
THEY'LL JUST FALL OFF THE RADAR BECAUSE THEY CAN'T POST ANY MORE, EITHER
TO COMPLAIN OR TO DEFEND THEMSELVES./
    
   /I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT A TYRANT HAS JUST BEEN
HANDED THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM. I THINK WE ALSO ALL KNOW WHAT HE WILL DO
WITH THEM. I'M JUST SUGGESTING A PROCEDURE THAT INSURES HE CAN'T DO IT
IN SECRET./


-
FROM: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
TO: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
SENT: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
SUBJECT: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

    

As is typically the case these days, I
am completely out of the loop with respect to Rick's handling of FFL.
Doug's posts this morning piqued my curiosity, and it turns out that
Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday afternoon. I have no idea what Doug
is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. As for me, my role will not
change.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Thanks R-V,
I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded empathy in
experience for the well-being of FFL.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_arch...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Cute.
When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or
something, given the plethora of more meaningful targets available.
Regardless, I wish you all the best in your new role...

  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :


'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite
enlightened in their guidance.
 
For instance,
 
“If one is constantly negative, one
is heading towards trouble. By negative thinking, feeling and acting one
creates dark patches and muddy colors in the aura which, in turn,
prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching him. Without the
light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances and one's
health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and
excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by
cosmic current.” -Charles Lutes,  Will and Desire, 5/3/91
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote :

 Alex, before you and Rick sprain
your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a free speech
zone, you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on
Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to
be proud of. 
 
  The guidelines are not arbitrary.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
One *important* point  to remember is that Yahoo Group guidelines are 
*suggestions* not rules.  The only rules Yahoo cares about are the ones 
that will keep them out of a courtroom.


A local news blog has a weekly politics thread where members are urged 
to be nice to each other but given the results and reverse psychology 
they might do better saying tear each other to shreds! ;-)


On 06/08/2015 08:05 AM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]

*Sent:* Monday, June 8, 2015 9:58 AM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

*/Thanks for responding, Rick. While you're still here, can you please 
explain to us exactly HOW Doug will enforce the sentence I've 
highlighted below in red? What exactly is he allowed to do and not do 
to ensure adherence to Yahoo's guidelines?


My experience is that it's better to ask these kinds of questions 
*before* possible abuse of authority happens, not afterwards. /**//*


I actually don’t know. I don’t know if he does either. Let’s see what 
he does and evaluate it.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... 
wrote :


*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]

*Sent:* Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
–JaiGuruYou


It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church.

Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to 
do it. With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the 
time. I believe in very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think 
the “anything goes” nature of it has contributed to its success and 
longevity. But I think we are obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s 
guidelines. Theoretically, frequent violation of those guidelines 
could get the group shut down. *Doug Hamilton has volunteered to 
moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s 
guidelines and no more.*He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a 
restriction of their freedom of speech, but different types of speech 
are appropriate in different contexts, and again, in the context of a 
Yahoo group, we are obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m 
going to try this and see how it goes. If Doug abuses his authority 
and/or fails to moderate fairly and objectively, I will revoke his 
moderator status.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... 
mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :


*/Sad news. /*

*/Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and 
Rick insist on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. /*


*/I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see 
things that aren't really there. /*


*/So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban 
someone, he cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug 
feels is in violation of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining 
to the group *exactly why* he thinks this poster needs to be banned. /*


*/Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the 
people he doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just 
fall off the radar because they can't post any more, either to 
complain or to defend themselves. /*


*/I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to 
the kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm 
just suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. /*




*From:*j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...%20[FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop 
with respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning 
piqued my curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator 
yesterday afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in 
terms of enforcement. As for me, my role will not change.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... 
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :


*Thanks R-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened 
high-minded empathy in experience for the well-being of FFL. *




---In 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't think I need to explain anything to you. I think if you reread what I 
wrote, carefully this time--several times if necessary--you'll see why your 
question was based on a misunderstanding. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 'You are holding...' was a question. Note the question mark at the end of 
sentence. It was some sort of figurative language, but the sentence began with 
the word 'you'. Already giving commands? I am under no obligation to reread 
anything here. Note that rereading something does not necessarily result in the 
understanding someone else desires one to have. If that is what you desire, 
then the best method is to explain what you wanted them to understand in some 
other way, and keep doing that until they do understand.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Does the You are holding... refer to me? If it refers to me, you didn't 
understand the post. Read it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 




















RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Doug Hamilton has volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to 
ensuring adherence to Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. 

He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck alter-ego.

Click on the link below to see a sample of how Doug Hamilton has commonly used  
FFL over the years. This is from a few weeks ago.  Posts such as this are 
interspersed with incessant whining about how FFL is inappropriately run. 

In the hiring business, a common phrase is Hire for attitude, train for 
skill.  Well, I doubt if there will be any training for skill in this 
moderator position. Based on my observations of his approach to FFL, I don't 
see that Doug has either the attitude or the capacity to 'moderate' himself or 
FFL.

However, the deed is done, and I guess only time will tell. 


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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote 
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 7:57 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show


  
  
 We sat over this together in church the other day.  It will be fine. 
–JaiGuruYou
 It was a wedding. Ordinarily you wouldn’t find me in church. 
 Almost daily, various people urge me to moderate FFL or get someone to do it. 
With BatGap and my other responsibilities, I don’t have the time. I believe in 
very minimal moderation, at least for FFL. I think the “anything goes” nature 
of it has contributed to its success and longevity. But I think we are 
obligated to at least abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. Theoretically, frequent 
violation of those guidelines could get the group shut down. Doug Hamilton has 
volunteered to moderate and to limit his moderation to ensuring adherence to 
Yahoo’s guidelines and no more. He will not moderate with his puritanical Buck 
alter-ego. I know some will bristle at what they perceive as a restriction of 
their freedom of speech, but different types of speech are appropriate in 
different contexts, and again, in the context of a Yahoo group, we are 
obligated to abide by Yahoo’s guidelines. So I’m going to try this and see how 
it goes. If Doug abuses his authority and/or fails to moderate fairly and 
objectively, I will revoke his moderator status. 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 Sad news. 

  

 Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist 
on a few guidelines for *him* when he does this. 

  

 I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug 
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things 
that aren't really there. 

  

 So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he 
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation 
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he 
thinks this poster needs to be banned. 

  

 Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he 
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar 
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves. 

  

 I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the 
kingdom. I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just 
suggesting a procedure that insures he can't do it in secret. 

  
 
 From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...%20[FairfieldLife]; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

  
  
 As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with 
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my 
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday 
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement. 
As for me, my role will not change.

  

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5@... 

Re: [FairfieldLife] How you get fat?

2015-06-08 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Just as one shoe size does not fit all neither will one diet.  Some 
folks are carb types and some are protein types.  And some are a mix 
of both.  Both Ayurveda and Chinese medicine have recognized this for 
centuries.  Western medicine?  They're still stuck in the boonies trying 
to get back home.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
'You are holding...' was a question. Note the question mark at the end of 
sentence. It was some sort of figurative language, but the sentence began with 
the word 'you'. Already giving commands? I am under no obligation to reread 
anything here. Note that rereading something does not necessarily result in the 
understanding someone else desires one to have. If that is what you desire, 
then the best method is to explain what you wanted them to understand in some 
other way, and keep doing that until they do understand.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Does the You are holding... refer to me? If it refers to me, you didn't 
understand the post. Read it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 


















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

2015-06-08 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I do not see why it would be necessary to understand you because that never 
seems possible anyway. Nice to see you have dropped the 'I stand by what I 
said' approach. Relying on what one has said in the past has issues. For 
example, it is possible we are smarter now than in the past and need to revise 
our thinking. Or maybe, less smart. 

 I do have an hypothesis about your recent posting: that you think Barry's 
posting will be controlled in some way now, though it remains to be seen just 
how that will work out, as you two in the past seemed to be the primary polar 
opposites on FFL. Barry's method, it seems to me, was similar to the way one 
would handle dealing with ISIS effectively. I am all for ISIS being 
neutralised. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 I don't think I need to explain anything to you. I think if you reread what I 
wrote, carefully this time--several times if necessary--you'll see why your 
question was based on a misunderstanding. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 'You are holding...' was a question. Note the question mark at the end of 
sentence. It was some sort of figurative language, but the sentence began with 
the word 'you'. Already giving commands? I am under no obligation to reread 
anything here. Note that rereading something does not necessarily result in the 
understanding someone else desires one to have. If that is what you desire, 
then the best method is to explain what you wanted them to understand in some 
other way, and keep doing that until they do understand.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Does the You are holding... refer to me? If it refers to me, you didn't 
understand the post. Read it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 No. But you may explain to me why you think I did not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Are you having some trouble understanding my post, Xeno? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

 It would appear authfriend can correctly spell 'cognitive dissonance'. You 
are holding two or more contradictory beliefs and thinking everything is OK?

 From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
 
 
   
 In the olden days of FFL, prior to Neo, identities were handled differently. 
People's real names appeared in the headers of their posts, along with their 
handles, unless they had specified when registering for Yahoo! that only their 
handles be used. I did not so specify, and my real name appeared in my posts' 
headers. Obviously I have no objection to my real name being used. That would 
be pretty silly after all this time.
 

 

 But, this brings up an interesting subject. From what I've read, authfriend 
has never used her real name on FFL, so I guess that everyone that ever used 
her real name should be banned from the group. That would include almost 
everyone currently posting. Can anyone spell cognitive dissonance?
 







 


 























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