[FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect??
I would love to know how the siddha/guv'nors of FF and the leaders of MUM view this? Is it an example of the rising sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment, or is it a sign for a renewed push for more donations so Dome numbers and pundit numbers can be increased? Iowa Court Ruling Says Doctors Can Prescribe Abortion Drugs by Video | | | | | | | | | | | Iowa Court Ruling Says Doctors Can Prescribe Abortion D...In a unanimous ruling, the Iowa Supreme Court struck down a rule preventing doctors from using telemedicine to dispense abortion-inducing pills in remote clinics. | | | | View on www.nytimes.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
The images look like they were scenes from a psychedelic trip. This idea would be good for artistic expressions by a computer or a human programmer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is really fascinating: Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Posted by Alexander Mordvintsev, Software Engineer, Christopher Olah, Software Engineering Intern and Mike Tyka, Software Engineer View on googleresearch.blogsp... http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon! Rick Perry calls Charleston church shooting an 'accident' | | | | | | | | | | | Rick Perry calls Charleston church shooting an 'accident...Republican presidential candidate says ‘real issue’ raised by case is drugs and accuses Obama of seeking to use shooting to take away Americans’ guns | | | | View on www.theguardian.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
Yep, that is interesting speculation. But can they make a heart chakra and its field affect for a computer? This entraining of computers they talk about with layers of stacked layers sounds a lot like method within training of field dogs for coordinated hunting with humans or starting horses and bringing them along as working horses or riding horses with humans. What seems is yet missing in this artificial intelligence is the operation of a heart chakra by experience. “..We train an artificial neural network by showing it millions of training examples and gradually adjusting the network parameters until it gives the classifications we want.” One of the challenges of neural networks is understanding what exactly goes on at each layer. We know that after training, each layer progressively extracts higher and higher-level features of the image, until the final layer essentially makes a decision on what the image shows. For example, the first layer maybe looks for edges or corners. Intermediate layers interpret the basic features to look for overall shapes or components, like a door or a leaf. The final few layers assemble those into complete interpretations—these neurons activate in response to very complex things such as entire buildings or trees. Working with a heart chakra, by contrast.. Buck | trailer SUNDANCE 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMm5uoZtXw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMm5uoZtXw Buck | trailer SUNDANCE 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMm5uoZtXw Buck - U.S. Documentary Competition from the SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL 2011 Genre: documentary Regie / directed by: Cindy Meehl Darsteller / cast: Kino... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMm5uoZtXw Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is really fascinating: Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Posted by Alexander Mordvintsev, Software Engineer, Christopher Olah, Software Engineering Intern and Mike Tyka, Software Engineer View on googleresearch.blogsp... http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction of the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
No. he'll never over- come the oops moment. Nobody cares about an obvious
misspeak. Political opponents will try to make hay with something like that but
that's just grabbing at straws. I can relate to the oops moment. Perry had
undergone back surgery prior to the debate and had been taking something like
hydrocodone for pain. I used hydrocodone for eight months at maximum legal
strength after an accident and that stuff makes you very dull and slow. I
realized I was getting addicted and just went cold turkey. Stopped taking it
and lived with the pain until it naturally went away a few months later. Perry
did an excellent job of managing Texas during his years, while the rest of the
country was in major recession. But, he'll never live that first impression on
stage with *ooops* down.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Even this being true, I bet you anything it will cost Perry the nomination.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Right... even though he referred to the event as a crime during the
conversation. His rep later said it was clear that Perry misspoke and intended
to say *incident*. Ever hear Obama misspeak? One comes to mind instantaneously,
he repeatedly sounded the *P* in the word *corpsman*, not once, not twice but
several times while reading from his teleprompter. But then I guess you could
say that wasn't a *misspeak* since it happened repeatedly. But then we all cut
the Harvard educated constitutional law professor some slack. At least he
didn't aks the wrong question.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon!
Rick Perry calls Charleston church shooting an 'accident'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
First of all the idea 'heart chakra' has to be discovered as a physical
construct rather than being conceived as a metaphysical imaginary entity. What
is missing so far in artificial intelligence is awareness. What is
consciousness that a computer could be conscious? One of the scientific
theories of consciousness (integrated information theory) indicates that simple
neural nets could be conscious but a complex one might not be. This would mean
consciousness is an emergent phenomenon. Some other theories (the unprovable
ones) postulate panpsychism, the view that consciousness, mind or psyche is a
universal feature of all things, and the primordial feature from which all
other characteristics are derived. This is the basic idea in the Upanishads,
Taoism, and Zen. Panpsychism takes the idea of gods or god and diffuses it,
completely abstracting it, de-anthropomorphising it, removing the intentional
stance as impetus for action, de-entifying it entirely. It basically makes
consciousness disappear by making it what everything is. In this case,
supposing that were true, any computer given sensory hardware would be
conscious, but not necessarily self-aware, which would require a particular
topology of the neural net.
In speaking of the heart, we could consider psychopaths, which are often
engaging, seemingly caring people, but inside they have zero compassion, zero
empathy. A computer neural net could be programmed, or even taught, to give the
appearance and behaviour of emotional warmth without actually having it. On the
other hand, would that programming actually result in it having heart? An
actor, or a psychopath can fake having heart, so perhaps it would depend on how
many layers devoted to the feature exist in the neural net, how deep it really
went.
In mixing computer science and physics with ideas like 'heart chakra' you have
to provide real demonstrable confirmation of the existence of this feature, not
just postulate it is there because someone planted the idea in your mind. I
have heard the idea for over 40 years, but don't know if it is real, and I
suspect there are much better explanation for human emotional behaviour and
feeling than this insubstantial concept.
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
Yep, that is interesting speculation. Butcan they make a heart chakra and
its field affect for a computer? This entraining of computers theytalk about
with layers of stacked layers sounds a lot like methodwithin training of field
dogs for coordinated hunting with humans orstarting horses and bringing them
along as working horses or ridinghorses with humans. What seems is yet missing
in this artificialintelligence is the operation of a heart chakra by experience.
“..We train an artificial neural network by showing it millions of training
examples and gradually adjusting the network parameters until it gives the
classifications we want.”
Oneof the challenges of neural networks is understanding what exactlygoes on
at each layer. We know that after training, each layerprogressively extracts
higher and higher-level features of the image,until the final layer essentially
makes a decision on what the imageshows. For example, the first layer maybe
looks for edges or corners.Intermediate layers interpret the basic features to
look for overallshapes or components, like a door or a leaf. The final few
layersassemble those into complete interpretations—these neurons activatein
response to very complex things such as entire buildings or trees.
Working with a heart chakra, by contrast..
Buck | trailer SUNDANCE 2011
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
This is really fascinating:
Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks
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Alexander Mordvintsev, Software Engineer, Christopher Olah, Software
Engineering Intern and Mike Tyka, Software Engineer | |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there
have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they
wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed
vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am
interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of
blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for
years.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Feste, I forgot to thank you for saying something very nice about my participation here. Back at you and thanks. We will see if I can stay this side of the undefined invisible line that has drawn as I try to find out where exactly it is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would say that opposing views are welcome here. There is room for disagreement and argument but not an atmosphere in which insult and abuse becomes the norm. I find it astonishing that an effort to realign this group so that it conforms to the Yahoo! guidelines should be greeted by one recent poster as some kind of return to medieval tyranny. No, it's just a call for people to adopt a more civil tone with one another. The recently departed Turquoise was, in my opinion, the principal cause of the descent of FFL into the gutter, and now I hope it will become a more interesting and welcoming place, with more people from Fairfield posting. The group is, after all, called Fairfield Life. I hope you will go on posting, Curtis, because you are one of the most interesting and articulate people here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : FFL reflected Rick's open mindedness and respect for adults voicing their opinion in dramatic contrast to the group that most of us were involved with. I consider this latest change to be a version of FFL suicide by appointing Buck/Doug to kill off all opposing views. Once freedom of expression is gone it will die off as a useful place to post. But your post makes you exempt from the FFL Dead Pool list, so there is that! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : For years, FFL was like an unweeded garden. Noxious weeds were allowed to grow unchecked, poisoning the entire garden. Then a new gardener was appointed who decided to clean things up. Of course, the noxious weeds do not like it. As far as TurquoiseB's expulsion is concerned, he can have little cause for complaint, in my opinion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present in the newest moderator. Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-) P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
Re: [FairfieldLife] The birth of computer consciousness?
I haven't worked much with neural networks but have some old books on it. There are a few things I wanted to try with it. On 06/19/2015 10:15 PM, salyavin808 wrote: This is really fascinating: Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html image http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Posted by Alexander Mordvintsev, Software Engineer, Christopher Olah, Software Engineering Intern and Mike Tyka, Software Engineer View on googleresearch.blogsp... http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Pastor Barry probably emailed Doug some expletives which sealed his fate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction of the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: ScienceDaily: Top Science News
-Original Message- From: All Top News -- ScienceDaily noreply+feedpr...@google.com To: wleed3 wle...@aol.com Sent: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 5:06 am Subject: ScienceDaily: Top Science News ScienceDaily: Top Science News Could we one day control the path of lightning? Sixth mass extinction is here: Humanity's existence threatened Chemists devise technology that could transform solar energy storage How bats actually fly to find their prey First solar cell made of highly ordered molecular frameworks Lefties are all right with kangaroos Evidence of key ingredient during dawn of life Cellulose from wood can be printed in 3-D Hematite 're-growth' smoothes rough edges for clean energy harvest Could we one day control the path of lightning? Posted: 19 Jun 2015 12:21 PM PDT Lightning path remains unpredictable, but at a smaller scale, discharges between two electrodes can be guided by laser beams. Scientists have discovered a way to guide electric discharges -- and even steer them around obstacles -- through the clever use of lasers. Sixth mass extinction is here: Humanity's existence threatened Posted: 19 Jun 2015 12:21 PM PDT Biologists have use highly conservative estimates to prove that species are disappearing faster than at any time since the dinosaurs' demise. Chemists devise technology that could transform solar energy storage Posted: 19 Jun 2015 07:36 AM PDT Chemists have developed a major improvement to capture and retain energy from sunlight, where the stored energy can last dramatically longer than current solar technology allows -- up to several weeks, instead of the microseconds found in today's rooftop solar panels. How bats actually fly to find their prey Posted: 19 Jun 2015 05:46 AM PDT New research helps elucidate how bats actually fly to find their prey. Every night a bat puts in 600-700 kilometres of airtime. Flying low, the animals catch insects at speeds of around 40 metres per second. At night the bat uses its hearing to navigate its way to prey. Bats catch insects continuously using echolocation, an advanced navigation system. First solar cell made of highly ordered molecular frameworks Posted: 19 Jun 2015 05:44 AM PDT Researchers have developed a material suited for photovoltaics. For the first time, a functioning organic solar cell consisting of a single component has been produced on the basis of metal-organic framework compounds (MOFs). The material is highly elastic and might also be used for the flexible coating of clothes and deformable components. Lefties are all right with kangaroos Posted: 18 Jun 2015 10:42 AM PDT Kangaroos prefer to use one of their hands over the other for everyday tasks in much the same way that humans do, with one notable difference: generally speaking, kangaroos are lefties. The finding is the first to consider handedness in wild kangaroos, and challenges the notion that 'true' handedness among mammals is a feature unique to primates. Evidence of key ingredient during dawn of life Posted: 18 Jun 2015 09:20 AM PDT Scientists have provided the first direct experimental evidence for how primordial proteins developed the ability to accelerate the central chemical reaction necessary to synthesize proteins and thus allow life to arise not long after Earth was created. Cellulose from wood can be printed in 3-D Posted: 17 Jun 2015 06:17 AM PDT A group of researchers have managed to print and dry three-dimensional objects made entirely by cellulose for the first time with the help of a 3D-bioprinter. They also added carbon nanotubes to create electrically conductive material. The effect is that cellulose and other raw material based on wood will be able to compete with fossil-based plastics and metals in the on-going additive manufacturing revolution, which started with the introduction of the 3D-printer. Hematite 're-growth' smoothes rough edges for clean energy harvest Posted: 16 Jun 2015 04:23 AM PDT
[FairfieldLife] Just Sorta Found This Interesting
A Glut of Mall Space Echoes in India http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-glut-of-mall-space-echoes-in-india-1434473696 http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-glut-of-mall-space-echoes-in-india-1434473696 A Glut of Mall Space Echoes in India http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-glut-of-mall-space-echoes-in-india-1434473696 Developers rushed to build malls in India over the past decade, but far fewer people than expected have enough money to shop in them regularly. Many are strugg... View on www.wsj.com http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-glut-of-mall-space-echoes-in-india-1434473696 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? This post is almost entirely irrelevant to the current situation on FFL. Moreover, it has quite a few inaccuracies. There is no reason that anyone's equanimity should be deliberately tested by trying to upset them. It may happen naturally in the course of a discussion or argument, but otherwise it's just an excuse to indulge one's aggression and treat them badly. If your equanimity is tested and you fail, then you realise you have more work to do in that regard. Before I learned TM, most of what I was engaged in was all about button pushing and discovering the extent of one's conditioning. It can be valuable. This feature of spiritual technology is heavily suppressed in the TM movement. Turq's posts were frequently poorly reasoned. He was a flashy writer, and this tended to be deceptive: one assumed he was saying something insightful because one was dazzled by the language. But if you looked more closely, you found that he was so focused on showing off his language skills that he didn't pay much attention to working out his ideas properly. Also, he often got his facts wrong, inadvertently or otherwise. Turq's post were almost always exaggerated for effect. Maharishi always exaggerated too to emphasise points. And in discussing metaphysical aspects of spirituality, there are no facts, so it does not matter if you make a mistake, everyone is dreaming in that regard. I'm not sure anybody cares which R's you would or would not have removed. Tell that to those that argued with them, or had to wade through their posts. Doug has not yet demonstrated a tyrannical side. As Alex confirmed, he has not deleted any posts. He has deleted two posters, both for more than sufficient reason. He has not moderated any contrary views except for one slip with Turq's nasty post about David Lynch (which has not been deleted). Every new moderator, as far as I'm concerned, gets to make a couple of mistakes at first. That's how they learn what it's about. I suspect that is only because Rick is looking over his shoulder. Doug has been under withering fire from Turq for *years*. It's no wonder he has personal enmity; he wouldn't be human if he didn't. He's stood up under it remarkably well. But Turq handed him a justification to expel him on a silver platter when he declared himself not subject to Doug's authority as moderator. What was he *thinking*?? How could there have been any question in his mind as to why he'd been denied access to the forum? Doug is a rather strange persona in my opinion, constant spamming, often a complete lack of original thinking in those repetitive whining post that went on for all those years. With Turq gone, I am interested though in seeing if he comes out into the sun. There have always been signs he can think independently of his TMO conditioning, and that the TMO has essentially excommunicated him perhaps it will emerge. Doug's religious persona is hardly medieval. Nineteenth century, maybe. I vote for giving him a chance and a bit of benefit of the doubt, maybe even helping him out rather than continually nastily criticizing him. That was an exaggeration, 19th century is a more accurate characterisation. Of course it is no longer the 19th century either, its a 21st century persona with historical influences. Did anyone argue that personal attacks always involved profanity? Personal attacks do not require profanity. Did anyone argue that personal attacks were always gratuitous? Personal attacks are often a response to a personal attack, they can be a reaction. Did anyone argue that likes and dislikes have something to do with the truth? What do likes and dislikes have to do with truth, other than if you like the idea of truth, it might point the mind in looking to find out? As for your quotes, at this point they're straw men. Nobody's freedom of speech has been taken away, nobody has tried to suppress others' opinions or ideas, nobody has censored anything. Turq is not here so he can no longer speak freely here, his opinions have been now suppressed. He has been censored. So has 'R', removed by Rick. To me 'R' was like a swarm of mosquitoes; certainly you remember when he began to focus on you. And your final paragraph is gratuitously insulting to Doug. Insulting, perhaps, but not gratuitous. Doug is not a free thinker, not a secular humanist, I think if he did not have Rick looking over his shoulder here, we would see the real persona unchained. But you know, none of the interplay here is really personal, we are just text on a computer screen. We are trading our ideas about what we think, our ideas about what others are, there is no flesh and blood interaction, no real personal interaction. Of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) Me: Which Yahoo rule does verbally defying the absolute authority of the moderator fall under? And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction of the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Even this being true, I bet you anything it will cost Perry the nomination.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Right... even though he referred to the event as a crime during the
conversation. His rep later said it was clear that Perry misspoke and intended
to say *incident*. Ever hear Obama misspeak? One comes to mind instantaneously,
he repeatedly sounded the *P* in the word *corpsman*, not once, not twice but
several times while reading from his teleprompter. But then I guess you could
say that wasn't a *misspeak* since it happened repeatedly. But then we all cut
the Harvard educated constitutional law professor some slack. At least he
didn't aks the wrong question.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon!
Rick Perry calls Charleston church shooting an 'accident'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
You mean moron? Perry did go to Texas AM who's colors were maroon and white.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon!
Rick Perry calls Charleston church shooting an 'accident'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Right... even though he referred to the event as a crime during the
conversation. His rep later said it was clear that Perry misspoke and intended
to say *incident*. Ever hear Obama misspeak? One comes to mind instantaneously,
he repeatedly sounded the *P* in the word *corpsman*, not once, not twice but
several times while reading from his teleprompter. But then I guess you could
say that wasn't a *misspeak* since it happened repeatedly. But then we all cut
the Harvard educated constitutional law professor some slack. At least he
didn't aks the wrong question.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon!
Rick Perry calls Charleston church shooting an 'accident'
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-Original Message- From: Stansberry Research customerserv...@stansberryresearch.com To: COL. WILLIAM D. LEED III wle...@aol.com Sent: Sat, Jun 20, 2015 9:16 am Subject: Masters Series: Ron Paul – The U.S. Economy Is 'Fundamentally Unsound' June 20, 2015 Editor's note: By now, many of you know that former congressman Dr. Ron Paul has agreed to endorse Stansberry Research. Dr. Paul spent his 22-year Congressional career fighting to fix our country's finances and protect the liberty of all U.S. citizens. Today's Masters Series essay appeared in December on the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity's website. In it, Dr. Paul explains why we're simply papering over our severe economic problems… and we're on a crash course for disaster… The U.S. Economy Is 'Fundamentally Unsound' By Dr. Ron Paul Last week, we learned that the key to a strong economy is not increased production, lower unemployment, or a sound monetary unit. Rather, economic prosperity depends on the type of language used by the central bank in its monetary policy statements. All it took was one word in the Federal Reserve Bank's press release – that the Fed would be patient in raising interest rates to normal levels – and stock markets went wild. The SP 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average had their best gains in years, with the Dow gaining nearly 800 points from Wednesday to Friday and the SP gaining almost 100 points to close within a few points of its all-time high. Just think of how many trillions of dollars of financial activity occurred solely because of that one new phrase in the Fed's statement. That so much in our economy hangs on one word uttered by one institution demonstrates not only that far too much power is given to the Federal Reserve, but also how unbalanced the American economy really is. While the real economy continues to sputter, financial markets reach record highs, thanks in no small part to the Fed's easy-money policies. After six years of zero interest rates, Wall Street has become addicted to easy money. Even the slightest mention of tightening monetary policy and Wall Street reacts like a heroin addict forced to sober up cold turkey. While much of the media paid attention to how long interest rates would remain at zero, what they largely ignored is that the Fed is, maintaining its existing policy of reinvesting principal payments from its holdings of agency debt and agency mortgage-backed securities in agency mortgage-backed securities. Look at the Fed's balance sheet and you'll see that it has purchased $25 billion in mortgage-backed securities since the end of QE3. Annualized, that is $200 billion a year. That may not be as large as QE2 or QE3, but quantitative easing, or as the Fed likes to say, accommodative monetary policy, is far from over. What gets lost in all the reporting about stock market numbers, unemployment-rate figures, and other economic data is the understanding that real wealth results from production of real goods, not from the creation of money out of thin air. The Fed can rig the numbers for a while by turning the monetary spigot on full blast, but the reality is that this is only papering over severe economic problems. Six years after the crisis of 2008, the economy still has not fully recovered, and in many respects is not much better than it was at the turn of the century. An economy that holds its breath every six weeks, looking to parse every single word coming out of Fed Chairman Janet Yellen's mouth for indications of whether to buy or sell, is an economy that is fundamentally unsound. The Fed needs to stop creating trillions of dollars out of thin air, let Wall Street take its medicine, and allow the corrections that should have taken place in 2001 and 2008 to liquidate the bad debts and malinvestments that permeate the economy. Only then will we see a real economic recovery. Regards, Ron Paul Editor's note: The U.S. government continues to make irresponsible decisions with the economy. Dr. Paul and Stansberry Research founder Porter Stansberry agree: This negligence will lead the U.S. into a currency crisis. That's why Dr. Paul wrote the foreword to Porter's newest book, America 2020 – The Survival Blueprint. In it, Porter shares direct, specific, actionable advice… like how to get real, hold-in-your-hand silver for less than $3 (page 57)… the world's three safest currencies, which you can buy without ever leaving home (page 109)… and the best
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction of the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
[FairfieldLife] A message to Jim at the Peak
I am not a member so I cannot post this there but I know he reads FFL sometimes. Richard is now posting every instance of when I used my real name in the past on your site. The issue is that recent postings of my real name, personal or professional get picked up by search engines as more relevant. He is posting things from the beginning of my time on FFL and even Alt TM as a malisicous act toward me on your site. I get it that I can do nothing about this. But I want you to understand what you are supporting by letting him do this. I make a living in the highly judgmental eye of school systems. I try to keep my personal and professional lives separate as best as I can. Facebook is now ruined as a place to speak freely since so many professional contacts friended me. Now it is a bland PR site. When I speak my mind here I want to do it freely. That is why I try to keep my identities as separate as I can on search engines. Wouldn't a decent person just follow my request? I have good reasons. The point is not that all of us have an online footprint that can be researched if someone diggs. And many of us were a bit naive in the beginning days of posting. It is that the search engines for casual searches that get skewed by reposting old posts with names. Of course most people would get outed with enough research these days. But by putting it in the recent relevant category in search engines it changes the ranking. What kind of person does this to someone online? Now lets go to intent. Knowing that this could potentially do me professional harm. what type of person continues this behavior after I asked him to stop and then continues the online assault another forum online? Is this what your site supports? Seriously.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
dear laughingG, thank you, not the least of which, for putting me with such interesting, dare I say riveting, posters, the 3 Rs (-: To my amazement, I have become a lurker, and a happy one at that. Same on the Peak. And the recent FFL developments fascinate me. Most everything about online communication fascinates me. Are all those very different voices really inside my own awareness? I think so. Astonishment! If we're not at peace with a certain voice that seems to be outside us, it does no good to censor it. It will merely show up in our lives somewhere else. Better to make peace with it, with all the parts of our self. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve, Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I read, I think that I can sense the author's intent in what they are writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case I chose not to respond although I feel bad for the writer, sometimes I have the aha moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle and I got the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you get the idea. This topic has become interesting to me, and my comments are interpersed below: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? J: This post is almost entirely irrelevant to the current situation on FFL. Moreover, it has quite a few inaccuracies. There is no reason that anyone's equanimity should be deliberately tested by trying to upset them. It may happen naturally in the course of a discussion or argument, but otherwise it's just an excuse to indulge one's aggression and treat them badly. X: If your equanimity is tested and you fail, then you realise you have more work to do in that regard. Before I learned TM, most of what I was engaged in was all about button pushing and discovering the extent of one's conditioning. It can be valuable. This feature of spiritual technology is heavily suppressed in the TM movement. LG: Perhaps all our equanimities are being tested by the Doug/Buck persona that Xeno mentions below. Are we passing or failing by how each of us reacts to it? Those that fail, is it valuable, i.e. are we learning anything from it? snip J: I'm not sure anybody cares which R's you would or would not have removed. X: Tell that to those that argued with them, or had to wade through their posts. LG: Now that's funny. snip J: Doug has been under withering fire from Turq for *years*. It's no wonder he has personal enmity; he wouldn't be human if he didn't. He's stood up under it remarkably well. But Turq handed him a justification to expel him on a silver platter when he declared himself not subject to Doug's authority as moderator. What was he *thinking*?? How could there have been any question in his mind as to why he'd been denied access to the forum? X: Doug is a rather strange persona in my opinion, constant spamming, often a complete lack of original thinking in those repetitive whining post that went on for all those years. With Turq gone, I am interested though in seeing if he comes out into the sun. There have always been signs he can think independently of his TMO conditioning, and that the TMO has essentially excommunicated him perhaps it will emerge. LG: Could this be the Doug/Buck form of button-pushing? If it is, then you're getting yours pushed big time because it elicits a response from you (and others) to which Doug/Buck chooses to ignore. Kinda like other button-pushers who, when their victims take the bait by responding, drop out of the conversation. The button-pusher owes no one an explanation nor wants to get into an endless discussion that goes nowhere. So now, let's get back to the value of button-pushing as a test to one's equanimity... snip J: Did anyone argue that personal attacks were always gratuitous? X: Personal attacks are often a response to a personal attack, they can be a reaction. LG: Doesn't there have to be a nonequanimous(?) person there for a personal attack to have an effect? snip X: Turq is not here so he can no longer speak freely here, his opinions have been now suppressed. He has been
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : LOL, looks like Judy hasn't been paying attention either. Unless I missed the post where Buck apologised to everyone for his blatant abuse of power and promised not to do it again because he wormed a post about David Lynch into his guidelines and tried to have it removed because he disliked the content and then deleted the poster anyway. Don't tell me you don't know what partisan means either!!! Don't worry Judy, we'll defend your right to post here with just as much vigour if you ever find you have something to say. If you can count that far, cast your eye down to the fifth paragraph below and read what I've highlighted in blue. Oopsie! Silly Sal. (That post isn't why Turq was deleted, BTW.) You know, Turq almost never apologized for making a mistake. You won't apologize for this one or any of the others you've been making lately. Why should Doug apologize? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : This post is almost entirely irrelevant to the current situation on FFL. Moreover, it has quite a few inaccuracies. There is no reason that anyone's equanimity should be deliberately tested by trying to upset them. It may happen naturally in the course of a discussion or argument, but otherwise it's just an excuse to indulge one's aggression and treat them badly. Turq's posts were frequently poorly reasoned. He was a flashy writer, and this tended to be deceptive: one assumed he was saying something insightful because one was dazzled by the language. But if you looked more closely, you found that he was so focused on showing off his language skills that he didn't pay much attention to working out his ideas properly. Also, he often got his facts wrong, inadvertently or otherwise. I'm not sure anybody cares which R's you would or would not have removed. Doug has not yet demonstrated a tyrannical side. As Alex confirmed, he has not deleted any posts. He has deleted two posters, both for more than sufficient reason. He has not moderated any contrary views except for one slip with Turq's nasty post about David Lynch (which has not been deleted). Every new moderator, as far as I'm concerned, gets to make a couple of mistakes at first. That's how they learn what it's about. Doug has been under withering fire from Turq for *years*. It's no wonder he has personal enmity; he wouldn't be human if he didn't. He's stood up under it remarkably well. But Turq handed him a justification to expel him on a silver platter when he declared himself not subject to Doug's authority as moderator. What was he *thinking*?? How could there have been any question in his mind as to why he'd been denied access to the forum? Doug's religious persona is hardly medieval. Nineteenth century, maybe. I vote for giving him a chance and a bit of benefit of the doubt, maybe even helping him out rather than continually nastily criticizing him. Did anyone argue that personal attacks always involved profanity? Did anyone argue that personal attacks were always gratuitous? Did anyone argue that likes and dislikes have something to do with the truth? As for your quotes, at this point they're straw men. Nobody's freedom of speech has been taken away, nobody has tried to suppress others' opinions or ideas, nobody has censored anything. And your final paragraph is gratuitously insulting to Doug. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Getting your buttons hammered is a test of equanimity, which fails miserably with many, many meditators. Tuquoiseb was pretty intense this way, but also posted well reasoned posts and other interesting things. He was not a one note guy. I found authfriend just as annoying eventually as I did Turq in the beginning. Unlike the irrelevant posts of 'R' and the rather insanely abusive posts of another 'R' a few years ago. In fact those two 'Rs' were the only ones I would have removed from FFL myself were I in control. There was a third 'R' whom I found rather creepy, but he had reasoned if sometimes devious argumentation, so even though I did not care for him, I would not have removed him because I disagreed with him. Turq provided a strong pole for the non-theistic path of spirituality, and I miss the authfriend/turq battles of the past. Intellectually Turq is far more well rounded than our farmer turned tyrant, who I feel does not have the mental flexibility to deal with strong contrary views. His own posting has been spammy in mostly non-interactive, and until now, mostly a complaint. We should note that personal attacks also do not necessarily involve profanity and can take on a much more subtle quality, and in this light everyone one here has engaged in that in my observation. It is very easy to slip from arguing against an idea and aiming at the person. Our moderator
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
I'm sorry you didn't understand what I wrote well enough to give meaningful responses. (Or perhaps you just chose to indulge in more irrelevancies.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? This post is almost entirely irrelevant to the current situation on FFL. Moreover, it has quite a few inaccuracies. There is no reason that anyone's equanimity should be deliberately tested by trying to upset them. It may happen naturally in the course of a discussion or argument, but otherwise it's just an excuse to indulge one's aggression and treat them badly. If your equanimity is tested and you fail, then you realise you have more work to do in that regard. Before I learned TM, most of what I was engaged in was all about button pushing and discovering the extent of one's conditioning. It can be valuable. This feature of spiritual technology is heavily suppressed in the TM movement. All irrelevant to my point. I'm suggesting that it's inappropriate to test someone by deliberately trying to upset them unless it's in an official teaching context. Turq's posts were frequently poorly reasoned. He was a flashy writer, and this tended to be deceptive: one assumed he was saying something insightful because one was dazzled by the language. But if you looked more closely, you found that he was so focused on showing off his language skills that he didn't pay much attention to working out his ideas properly. Also, he often got his facts wrong, inadvertently or otherwise. Turq's post were almost always exaggerated for effect. Maharishi always exaggerated too to emphasise points. And in discussing metaphysical aspects of spirituality, there are no facts, so it does not matter if you make a mistake, everyone is dreaming in that regard. Also irrelevant. The word I used was facts, not metaphysical aspects of spirituality, nor was I referring to obvious hyperbole. What Maharishi did or did not do is equally rrelevant here. I'm referring to Turq's lack of concern for making sure of his facts, and, more importantly, his chronic dishonesty. And, BTW, Turq's arguments for the non-theistic pole of spirituality were feeble in the extreme. He didn't have the intellectual chops even to understand the arguments for theism, let alone rebut them. I'm not sure anybody cares which R's you would or would not have removed. Tell that to those that argued with them, or had to wade through their posts. Irrelevant. Why would they care about whether you would or would not have removed such people? Doug has not yet demonstrated a tyrannical side. As Alex confirmed, he has not deleted any posts. He has deleted two posters, both for more than sufficient reason. He has not moderated any contrary views except for one slip with Turq's nasty post about David Lynch (which has not been deleted). Every new moderator, as far as I'm concerned, gets to make a couple of mistakes at first. That's how they learn what it's about. I suspect that is only because Rick is looking over his shoulder. I doubt it, but that, again, isn't the point. (I wouldn't be at all surprised if Doug consulted Rick about his decisions, but otherwise I think Rick is just letting him do his thing, happy that somebody has taken on the moderating task.) Doug has been under withering fire from Turq for *years*. It's no wonder he has personal enmity; he wouldn't be human if he didn't. He's stood up under it remarkably well. But Turq handed him a justification to expel him on a silver platter when he declared himself not subject to Doug's authority as moderator. What was he *thinking*?? How could there have been any question in his mind as to why he'd been denied access to the forum? Doug is a rather strange persona in my opinion, constant spamming, often a complete lack of original thinking in those repetitive whining post that went on for all those years. With Turq gone, I am interested though in seeing if he comes out into the sun. There have always been signs he can think independently of his TMO conditioning, and that the TMO has essentially excommunicated him perhaps it will emerge. Irrelevant to my points. Doug's religious persona is hardly medieval. Nineteenth century, maybe. I vote for giving him a chance and a bit of benefit of the doubt, maybe even helping him out rather than continually nastily criticizing him. That was an exaggeration, 19th century is a more accurate characterisation. Of course it is no longer the 19th century either, its a 21st century persona with historical influences. Duh. Did anyone argue that personal attacks always involved profanity? Personal attacks do not require
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
My comments below: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : This post is almost entirely irrelevant to the current situation on FFL. Moreover, it has quite a few inaccuracies. There is no reason that anyone's equanimity should be deliberately tested by trying to upset them. It may happen naturally in the course of a discussion or argument, but otherwise it's just an excuse to indulge one's aggression and treat them badly. Me: I agree with this Judy. It seems like a valid criticism of a lot of posters here. Judy: Turq's posts were frequently poorly reasoned. He was a flashy writer, and this tended to be deceptive: one assumed he was saying something insightful because one was dazzled by the language. But if you looked more closely, you found that he was so focused on showing off his language skills that he didn't pay much attention to working out his ideas properly. Also, he often got his facts wrong, inadvertently or otherwise. I'm not sure anybody cares which R's you would or would not have removed. Doug has not yet demonstrated a tyrannical side. As Alex confirmed, he has not deleted any posts. He has deleted two posters, both for more than sufficient reason. He has not moderated any contrary views except for one slip with Turq's nasty post about David Lynch (which has not been deleted). Every new moderator, as far as I'm concerned, gets to make a couple of mistakes at first. That's how they learn what it's about. ME: I had to change to plain text to respond interspersed. Judy had the above paragraph overlined. Buck/Doug only deleted Barry, he did not ban R, that was Rick. Buck/Doug was busy scolding Edg for using words that would be inappropriate in a middle school classroom but would turn no heads at a cocktail party nor have ever invoked the wrath of Yahoo Groups as a violation of their cover-our-asses policy. I point this out because his focus of attention is revealed in these choices. He then tried to take partial credit for banning someone who deserved it but Alex busted him on that. What you are terming a mistake is much more a revelation of values. A more cynical person than I might say that it was a ludicrous charge that was deliberately made to invoke an actionable response. To even WANT to censor a person's opinion about David Lynch is much more than a simple mistake. It is a clear abuse of power in a way that is consistent with his values that we have all known about posting with him all these years. I also object to the your characterization of his post about David being nasty. That hyperbolic description mischaracterizes (IMO, I get that) a pretty banal observation that a guy who gives a million dollars to a celebrity guru for an enlightenment course and the guru does not even show up is a . Fill in the blanks there are a lot words for such people. Every media outlet in America would have taken this story slant. Judy: Doug has been under withering fire from Turq for *years*. It's no wonder he has personal enmity; he wouldn't be human if he didn't. He's stood up under it remarkably well. But Turq handed him a justification to expel him on a silver platter when he declared himself not subject to Doug's authority as moderator. What was he *thinking*?? How could there have been any question in his mind as to why he'd been denied access to the forum? Me: First of all I have to compliment you for NOT doing a dance on Barry's grave here. It speaks well of you given your history with him. But as far as Barry giving Doug withering fire, that was in response to Buck/Doug constantly scolding many of us with a posture of condescension that provokes return fire. I heard for years that I was a quitter and need to come back to the holy path he was on and that problems in the world were my fault for not going to the dome...and endless TM-y blather we all know too well. He got the reaction he deserved for the whole routine of pretending he was parodying a view that was actually his own as we have found out since he came out from behind his persona mask. Judy: Doug's religious persona is hardly medieval. Nineteenth century, maybe. I vote for giving him a chance and a bit of benefit of the doubt, maybe even helping him out rather than continually nastily criticizing him. Me: This view would be the wise one if he had not already outed his agenda here. Criticisms of abuse of power are not subject to minimization by labeling them nasty. What is nasty is one person imposing his tiny movement POV on a bunch of adults on what used to be a useful free thought site. Judy: Did anyone argue that personal attacks always involved profanity? Did anyone argue that personal attacks were always gratuitous? Did anyone argue that likes and dislikes have something to do with the truth? As for your quotes, at this point they're straw men. Nobody's freedom of speech has been taken away, nobody has
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve, Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I read, I think that I can sense the author's intent in what they are writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case I chose not to respond although I feel bad for the writer, sometimes I have the aha moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle and I got the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you get the idea. This topic has become interesting to me, and my comments are interpersed below: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? J: This post is almost entirely irrelevant to the current situation on FFL. Moreover, it has quite a few inaccuracies. There is no reason that anyone's equanimity should be deliberately tested by trying to upset them. It may happen naturally in the course of a discussion or argument, but otherwise it's just an excuse to indulge one's aggression and treat them badly. X: If your equanimity is tested and you fail, then you realise you have more work to do in that regard. Before I learned TM, most of what I was engaged in was all about button pushing and discovering the extent of one's conditioning. It can be valuable. This feature of spiritual technology is heavily suppressed in the TM movement. LG: Perhaps all our equanimities are being tested by the Doug/Buck persona that Xeno mentions below. Are we passing or failing by how each of us reacts to it? Those that fail, is it valuable, i.e. are we learning anything from it? snip J: I'm not sure anybody cares which R's you would or would not have removed. X: Tell that to those that argued with them, or had to wade through their posts. LG: Now that's funny. snip J: Doug has been under withering fire from Turq for *years*. It's no wonder he has personal enmity; he wouldn't be human if he didn't. He's stood up under it remarkably well. But Turq handed him a justification to expel him on a silver platter when he declared himself not subject to Doug's authority as moderator. What was he *thinking*?? How could there have been any question in his mind as to why he'd been denied access to the forum? X: Doug is a rather strange persona in my opinion, constant spamming, often a complete lack of original thinking in those repetitive whining post that went on for all those years. With Turq gone, I am interested though in seeing if he comes out into the sun. There have always been signs he can think independently of his TMO conditioning, and that the TMO has essentially excommunicated him perhaps it will emerge. LG: Could this be the Doug/Buck form of button-pushing? If it is, then you're getting yours pushed big time because it elicits a response from you (and others) to which Doug/Buck chooses to ignore. Kinda like other button-pushers who, when their victims take the bait by responding, drop out of the conversation. The button-pusher owes no one an explanation nor wants to get into an endless discussion that goes nowhere. So now, let's get back to the value of button-pushing as a test to one's equanimity... snip J: Did anyone argue that personal attacks were always gratuitous? X: Personal attacks are often a response to a personal attack, they can be a reaction. LG: Doesn't there have to be a nonequanimous(?) person there for a personal attack to have an effect? snip X: Turq is not here so he can no longer speak freely here, his opinions have been now suppressed. He has been censored. So has 'R', removed by Rick. To me 'R' was like a swarm of mosquitoes; certainly you remember when he began to focus on you. LG: Another reaction to a form of button-pushing. I laughed at many of Richard's posts...to me, it was like an inside joke. Although he never did, if he began to focus on me, I'd probably ignore him unless he became malicious to the extent he did with outing CDB. I'm not sure if it was malicious or whether his constant form of joking got out of hand because he just didn't know when to quit. If someone asks you to stop because he/she feels uncomfortable with your approach to him/her, then you should just stop. J: And your final paragraph is gratuitously insulting to Doug. X: Insulting, perhaps, but not gratuitous. Doug is not a free
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Unless Alex was wrong, Doug didn't do anything. It was Rick that gave Turq a time out. This seems very Shakespearean or much ado about nothing. I still go with the idea Rick gave in to Doug so he could learn that being a moderator was not his cuppa tea. ;-) On 06/20/2015 09:43 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Pastor Barry probably emailed Doug some expletives which sealed his fate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction o! f the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
[FairfieldLife] A Quiet Day
It's nice to not have my day interrupted by annoying telemarketers and robocalls. In case you missed it the FCC just approved blocking of robocalls and telemarketers with spooded caller id's. I signed up for a blocker yesterday and what happens is you hear the phone ring once and if the number is in the blocking services database that's it. That it rings allows you to see who calls. So far it has blocked 3 calls. Here's the article and I'm using nomorobo.com which is mentioned in the article. http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/19/fcc-robocalls/
[FairfieldLife] Why Does Time Exist?
Sean Carroll, a physicist, discusses the various aspects of time but does not cover the various theories of the Big Bang. He did not talk about the unified field or the quantum wave function which was the source of the Big Bang. IMO, the fact that the universe is expanding to eternity means that the universe came out of eternity, through the quantum wave function. Sean Carroll: Why Does Time Exist? http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 Sean Carroll: Why Does Time Exist? http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 Cosmologist Sean Carroll tackles a deceptively simple question: Why does time exist at all? The potential answers point to a surprising view of the nature o... View on www.npr.org http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
True, it was Doug who suspended Turq's posting privileges (but, didn't actually boot him off the group.) It was the other removal that was handled entirely by Rick. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote : Wrong. According to Alex, it was Doug who deprived Turq of his posting access. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Unless Alex was wrong, Doug didn't do anything. It was Rick that gave Turq a time out. This seems very Shakespearean or much ado about nothing. I still go with the idea Rick gave in to Doug so he could learn that being a moderator was not his cuppa tea. ;-) On 06/20/2015 09:43 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Pastor Barry probably emailed Doug some expletives which sealed his fate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction o! f the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
OK, so I remembered incorrectly but the part about a time out rather than unsubscribe was correct. On 06/20/2015 12:51 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wrong. According to Alex, it was Doug who deprived Turq of his posting access. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Unless Alex was wrong, Doug didn't do anything. It was Rick that gave Turq a time out. This seems very Shakespearean or much ado about nothing. I still go with the idea Rick gave in to Doug so he could learn that being a moderator was not his cuppa tea. ;-) On 06/20/2015 09:43 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Pastor Barry probably emailed Doug some expletives which sealed his fate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction o! f the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Just like Trent Lott - that guy lied, cheated and stole with both hands and
got clean away with it till he made the statement that if good ol' Strom
Thurmond had been elected president (when he was running on what was basically
a segregationist platform) the country would have been much better off. I mean
he was the Senate Majority leader and had to resign after making that
statement. It was said that even his friends in the senate avoided him in the
senate when they saw him coming down the halls.
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No. he'll never over- come the oops moment. Nobody cares about an obvious
misspeak. Political opponents will try to make hay with something like that but
that's just grabbing at straws. I can relate to the oops moment. Perry had
undergone back surgery prior to the debate and had been taking something like
hydrocodone for pain. I used hydrocodone for eight months at maximum legal
strength after an accident and that stuff makes you very dull and slow. I
realized I was getting addicted and just went cold turkey. Stopped taking it
and lived with the pain until it naturally went away a few months later. Perry
did an excellent job of managing Texas during his years, while the rest of the
country was in major recession. But, he'll never live that first impression on
stage with *ooops* down.
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Even this being true, I bet you anything it will cost Perry the nomination.
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Right... even though he referred to the event as a crime during the
conversation. His rep later said it was clear that Perry misspoke and intended
to say *incident*. Ever hear Obama misspeak? One comes to mind instantaneously,
he repeatedly sounded the *P* in the word *corpsman*, not once, not twice but
several times while reading from his teleprompter. But then I guess you could
say that wasn't a *misspeak* since it happened repeatedly. But then we all cut
the Harvard educated constitutional law professor some slack. At least he
didn't aks the wrong question.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon!
Rick Perry calls Charleston church shooting an 'accident'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Don't embarrass yourself, Curtis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) Me: Which Yahoo rule does verbally defying the absolute authority of the moderator fall under? And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction of the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. Me: Nothing was implied Judy, it was all stated clearly. Even by your own analysis that opposing Doug/Buck may lead to being banned. It was your conclusion about why he bounced Barry for talking back to him. Being offended by the most obvious comment was your MO here so this is standard Judy. Judy: The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise. Me: Always nice to end with a note of condescension and self aggrandizement so we know it is really you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Please explain how Rick Perry is like Trent Lott and how Rick Perry lied, stole
and cheated.
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Just like Trent Lott - that guy lied, cheated and stole with both hands
and got clean away with it till he made the statement that if good ol' Strom
Thurmond had been elected president (when he was running on what was basically
a segregationist platform) the country would have been much better off. I mean
he was the Senate Majority leader and had to resign after making that
statement. It was said that even his friends in the senate avoided him in the
senate when they saw him coming down the halls.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
No. he'll never over- come the oops moment. Nobody cares about an obvious
misspeak. Political opponents will try to make hay with something like that but
that's just grabbing at straws. I can relate to the oops moment. Perry had
undergone back surgery prior to the debate and had been taking something like
hydrocodone for pain. I used hydrocodone for eight months at maximum legal
strength after an accident and that stuff makes you very dull and slow. I
realized I was getting addicted and just went cold turkey. Stopped taking it
and lived with the pain until it naturally went away a few months later. Perry
did an excellent job of managing Texas during his years, while the rest of the
country was in major recession. But, he'll never live that first impression on
stage with *ooops* down.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Even this being true, I bet you anything it will cost Perry the nomination.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Right... even though he referred to the event as a crime during the
conversation. His rep later said it was clear that Perry misspoke and intended
to say *incident*. Ever hear Obama misspeak? One comes to mind instantaneously,
he repeatedly sounded the *P* in the word *corpsman*, not once, not twice but
several times while reading from his teleprompter. But then I guess you could
say that wasn't a *misspeak* since it happened repeatedly. But then we all cut
the Harvard educated constitutional law professor some slack. At least he
didn't aks the wrong question.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
No that's not what I meant.
I meant that just the similarity between two successful politicians both of
whom said the wrong thing at the wrong time. I think Lott was a crook but
shouldn't have included that in my post. Tho now that you mention it, Perry is
still facing charges on corruption while in office, his lawyers have not gotten
those charges dismissed.
And there is this:
The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed |
www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.org
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From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Please explain how Rick Perry is like Trent Lott and how Rick Perry lied,
stole and cheated.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Just like Trent Lott - that guy lied, cheated and stole with both hands
and got clean away with it till he made the statement that if good ol' Strom
Thurmond had been elected president (when he was running on what was basically
a segregationist platform) the country would have been much better off. I mean
he was the Senate Majority leader and had to resign after making that
statement. It was said that even his friends in the senate avoided him in the
senate when they saw him coming down the halls.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
No. he'll never over- come the oops moment. Nobody cares about an obvious
misspeak. Political opponents will try to make hay with something like that but
that's just grabbing at straws. I can relate to the oops moment. Perry had
undergone back surgery prior to the debate and had been taking something like
hydrocodone for pain. I used hydrocodone for eight months at maximum legal
strength after an accident and that stuff makes you very dull and slow. I
realized I was getting addicted and just went cold turkey. Stopped taking it
and lived with the pain until it naturally went away a few months later. Perry
did an excellent job of managing Texas during his years, while the rest of the
country was in major recession. But, he'll never live that first impression on
stage with *ooops* down.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Even this being true, I bet you anything it will cost Perry the nomination.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
Right... even though he referred to the event as a crime during the
conversation. His rep later said it was clear that Perry misspoke and intended
to say *incident*. Ever hear Obama misspeak? One comes to mind instantaneously,
he repeatedly sounded the *P* in the word *corpsman*, not once, not twice but
several times while reading from his teleprompter. But then I guess you could
say that wasn't a *misspeak* since it happened repeatedly. But then we all cut
the Harvard educated constitutional law professor some slack. At least he
didn't aks the wrong question.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 4:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As Bugs Bunny would say Wat a maroon!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
It will be interesting to see how the trial goes. The other allegations are pretty standard for politicians. Doesn't make the favors for money a good thing for the people but it is pretty standard stuff. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again You know Michael, when you have to resort to the Young Turkeys for the low down on Rick Perry, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even the Houston Chronicle can't do any better than the current charges brought by the Travis county DA. Travis county is an Oasis of liberalism in Texas. There motto is *Keep Austin Weird*. They prosecuted Tom Delay on corruption charges. Won a conviction which was overturned by higher courts. Rick Perry refused to fund a corruption agency in Travis county until they fired someone on that committee. Turns out that person was busted for drunk driving and very belligerent towards DPS officers giving her the sobriety test and while in jail. She made an absolute fool of herself and it's all over the internet. Rick Perry was within his rights as Governor to withhold funding until that state organization cleaned it's self up. Especially an ethics organization. But this is Texas politics. Go figure. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again No that's not what I meant. I meant that just the similarity between two successful politicians both of whom said the wrong thing at the wrong time. I think Lott was a crook but shouldn't have included that in my post. Tho now that you mention it, Perry is still facing charges on corruption while in office, his lawyers have not gotten those charges dismissed. And there is this: The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.org | | | | | | | | | The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.orgYou are hereThe Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | | | | View on www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Please explain how Rick Perry is like Trent Lott and how Rick Perry lied, stole and cheated. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Just like Trent Lott - that guy lied, cheated and stole with both hands and got clean away with it till he made the statement that if good ol' Strom Thurmond had been elected president (when he was running on what was basically a segregationist platform) the country would have been much better off. I mean he was the Senate Majority leader and had to resign after making that statement. It was said that even his friends in the senate avoided him in the senate when they saw him coming down the halls. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again No. he'll never over- come the oops moment. Nobody cares about an obvious misspeak. Political opponents will try to make hay with something like that but that's just grabbing at straws. I can relate to the oops moment. Perry had undergone back surgery prior to the debate and had been taking something like hydrocodone for pain. I used hydrocodone for eight months at maximum legal strength after an accident and that stuff makes you very dull and slow. I realized I was getting addicted and just went cold turkey. Stopped taking it and lived with the pain until it naturally went away a few months later. Perry did an excellent job of managing Texas during his years, while the rest of the country was in major recession. But, he'll never live that first impression on stage with *ooops* down. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Even this being true, I bet you anything it will cost Perry the nomination. From:
[FairfieldLife] A fitting place in Hell
As the news reported yesteday, Comcast founder Ralph Roberts, passed away at age 95. I can imagine he is now enjoying a special place in hell staffed by former Comcast CSRs. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Share, you caught me completely by surprise with a response...it's good to hear from you! It was not my intention to draw you out of lurkerdom...I also enjoy lurking in the shadows...sinister laugh...and really don't understand my fascination with this place unless it's just to see what nuggets I can glean from the posts...you've just offered up a few. Anyway, it's good to see old friends returning to the place and I'm enjoying their posts. There's a satisfaction...dare I say comfort...in knowing that we're not going to change who we are, yet it doesn't matter, because it shouldn't prevent us from perhaps finding some value in what each other has to say...we are always in control of how what we read influences us, and can turn the reaction/response switch on and off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear laughingG, thank you, not the least of which, for putting me with such interesting, dare I say riveting, posters, the 3 Rs (-: To my amazement, I have become a lurker, and a happy one at that. Same on the Peak. And the recent FFL developments fascinate me. Most everything about online communication fascinates me. Are all those very different voices really inside my own awareness? I think so. Astonishment! If we're not at peace with a certain voice that seems to be outside us, it does no good to censor it. It will merely show up in our lives somewhere else. Better to make peace with it, with all the parts of our self. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve, Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I read, I think that I can sense the author's intent in what they are writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case I chose not to respond although I feel bad for the writer, sometimes I have the aha moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle and I got the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you get the idea. snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
You know Michael, when you have to resort to the Young Turkeys for the low down on Rick Perry, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even the Houston Chronicle can't do any better than the current charges brought by the Travis county DA. Travis county is an Oasis of liberalism in Texas. There motto is *Keep Austin Weird*. They prosecuted Tom Delay on corruption charges. Won a conviction which was overturned by higher courts. Rick Perry refused to fund a corruption agency in Travis county until they fired someone on that committee. Turns out that person was busted for drunk driving and very belligerent towards DPS officers giving her the sobriety test and while in jail. She made an absolute fool of herself and it's all over the internet. Rick Perry was within his rights as Governor to withhold funding until that state organization cleaned it's self up. Especially an ethics organization. But this is Texas politics. Go figure. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again No that's not what I meant. I meant that just the similarity between two successful politicians both of whom said the wrong thing at the wrong time. I think Lott was a crook but shouldn't have included that in my post. Tho now that you mention it, Perry is still facing charges on corruption while in office, his lawyers have not gotten those charges dismissed. And there is this: The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.org | | | | | | | | | The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.orgYou are hereThe Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | | | | View on www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Please explain how Rick Perry is like Trent Lott and how Rick Perry lied, stole and cheated. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Just like Trent Lott - that guy lied, cheated and stole with both hands and got clean away with it till he made the statement that if good ol' Strom Thurmond had been elected president (when he was running on what was basically a segregationist platform) the country would have been much better off. I mean he was the Senate Majority leader and had to resign after making that statement. It was said that even his friends in the senate avoided him in the senate when they saw him coming down the halls. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again No. he'll never over- come the oops moment. Nobody cares about an obvious misspeak. Political opponents will try to make hay with something like that but that's just grabbing at straws. I can relate to the oops moment. Perry had undergone back surgery prior to the debate and had been taking something like hydrocodone for pain. I used hydrocodone for eight months at maximum legal strength after an accident and that stuff makes you very dull and slow. I realized I was getting addicted and just went cold turkey. Stopped taking it and lived with the pain until it naturally went away a few months later. Perry did an excellent job of managing Texas during his years, while the rest of the country was in major recession. But, he'll never live that first impression on stage with *ooops* down. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Even this being true, I bet you anything it will cost Perry the nomination. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Right... even though he referred to the event as a crime during the conversation. His rep later said it was clear that Perry misspoke and intended to say *incident*. Ever hear Obama misspeak? One comes to mind
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Wrong. According to Alex, it was Doug who deprived Turq of his posting access. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Unless Alex was wrong, Doug didn't do anything. It was Rick that gave Turq a time out. This seems very Shakespearean or much ado about nothing. I still go with the idea Rick gave in to Doug so he could learn that being a moderator was not his cuppa tea. ;-) On 06/20/2015 09:43 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Pastor Barry probably emailed Doug some expletives which sealed his fate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction o! f the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
cuppa tea,.. not cuppa tea. I'm all for letting the experiment play out for a minimum of 30 days, and hopefully longer. I think the preliminary results have been promising. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I still go with the idea Rick gave in to Doug so he could learn that being a moderator was not his cuppa tea. ;-) On 06/20/2015 09:43 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Pastor Barry probably emailed Doug some expletives which sealed his fate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction o! f the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again
As for *favors for money* that's pretty standard as well. I'll bet it involve tax credits for new companies locating to Texas. Cuomo advertises the same thing for start ups in New York. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again It will be interesting to see how the trial goes. The other allegations are pretty standard for politicians. Doesn't make the favors for money a good thing for the people but it is pretty standard stuff. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again You know Michael, when you have to resort to the Young Turkeys for the low down on Rick Perry, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. Even the Houston Chronicle can't do any better than the current charges brought by the Travis county DA. Travis county is an Oasis of liberalism in Texas. There motto is *Keep Austin Weird*. They prosecuted Tom Delay on corruption charges. Won a conviction which was overturned by higher courts. Rick Perry refused to fund a corruption agency in Travis county until they fired someone on that committee. Turns out that person was busted for drunk driving and very belligerent towards DPS officers giving her the sobriety test and while in jail. She made an absolute fool of herself and it's all over the internet. Rick Perry was within his rights as Governor to withhold funding until that state organization cleaned it's self up. Especially an ethics organization. But this is Texas politics. Go figure. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again No that's not what I meant. I meant that just the similarity between two successful politicians both of whom said the wrong thing at the wrong time. I think Lott was a crook but shouldn't have included that in my post. Tho now that you mention it, Perry is still facing charges on corruption while in office, his lawyers have not gotten those charges dismissed. And there is this: The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.org | | | | | | | | | The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.orgYou are hereThe Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed The Young Turks: Rick Perry Corruption Exposed | | | | View on www.campaignaccountabilitywatch.org | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Please explain how Rick Perry is like Trent Lott and how Rick Perry lied, stole and cheated. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again Just like Trent Lott - that guy lied, cheated and stole with both hands and got clean away with it till he made the statement that if good ol' Strom Thurmond had been elected president (when he was running on what was basically a segregationist platform) the country would have been much better off. I mean he was the Senate Majority leader and had to resign after making that statement. It was said that even his friends in the senate avoided him in the senate when they saw him coming down the halls. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Rises Again No. he'll never over- come the oops moment. Nobody cares about an obvious misspeak. Political opponents will try to make hay with something like that but that's just grabbing at straws. I can relate to the oops moment. Perry had undergone back surgery prior to the debate and had been taking something like hydrocodone for pain. I used hydrocodone for eight months at maximum legal strength after an accident and that stuff makes you very dull and slow. I realized I was getting addicted and just went cold turkey. Stopped taking it and lived with the pain until it naturally went away a few months later. Perry did an excellent job of managing Texas during his years, while the rest of the country was
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Were that true, it was not a post to a Yahoo group, but a personal e-mail and not subject to Yahoo groups guidelines. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Pastor Barry probably emailed Doug some expletives which sealed his fate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : What on earth is the difficulty understanding the obvious here? Turq got thrown out because he declared he was not subject to Doug's moderation. There's no need to have Doug explain it to us when we have the evidence of the post in which he explicitly announced he was going to completely ignore anything Doug said. (He had also repeatedly insulted Doug, among other things by calling him insane.) And BTW, Xeno, there were some very smart people--some smarter than you, in fact--who wanted Turq removed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I agree with the need to know. If we are expected to follow your interpretation of the vague yahoo guidelines, it is only fair for us to find out what POV we need to align ourselves to until all dissenting voices are inevitably quelled here. So far it is a perfect reflection of the movement style. One of the longest posters here has suddenly been removed and we have no idea why. This is in contrast to what happened when R was removed for a very specific infraction of the rules that help us be safe posting here. We know why and if you don't do what he did, you wont get what he got. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buck, what were your reasons for removing Turq from the group? I know there have been many complaints about him from spiritual cretins as to why they wanted him removed, but you have been silent about it, even though you seemed vocal about it in a general way prior to being appointed moderator. I am interested in the mind of our moderator. As you performed the action of blocking him, what were you feeling? He had, after all, been on your case for years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
What is past is past. Long live the present, an infinitesimal slice between a remembered then and an imaginary to be. But to resurrect a quote from the past: 'Judy is doing what she has done often before -- offering her opinion, and thereafter assuming it (and STATING it) as if it were fact. In other words, she is attempting to establish her own opinion AS fact.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional outrage buzz Judy. That was neither intended nor implied in what I wrote. I hadn't even conspired that as an angle when I wrote that. I was stating the obvious and as usual you got bent about it. Your choice. I don't believe that you act in that calculated a way here, so from my POV I would not accuse you of this directly or in implication. But seeing how reactive you got makes me think that perhaps a bit of the ol' enemy of my enemy is my friend at work here that brought you out of lurkdom, which has been replayed so many times in your years of posing here I hope you make a comical attempt to deny it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. Me: Nothing was implied Judy, it was all stated clearly. Even by your own analysis that opposing Doug/Buck may lead to being banned. It was your conclusion about why he bounced Barry for talking back to him. Being offended by the most obvious comment was your MO here so this is standard Judy. Judy: The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise. Me: Always nice to end with a note of condescension and self aggrandizement so we know it is really you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Does Time Exist?
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why Does Time Exist?
Sean Carroll, a physicist, discusses the various aspects of time but does
not cover the various theories of the Big Bang. He did not talk about the
unified field or the quantum wave function which was the source of the Big
Bang.IMO, the fact that the universe is expanding to eternity means that the
universe came out of eternity, through the quantum wave function.In the Big
Bang theory, if space were negatively curved, the universe would expand, as a
measure of time, eternally, but that does not say anything about where it came
from or what it came from, or in fact if it came at all. The beginning, as a
function of quantum mechanical ideas might be a quantum fluctuation, but did
any quantum field exist before the universe began. But before it began, or even
at the beginning there would be no quantum wave function, which requires there
be particles, but no particles exist in that highly compressed state at the Big
Bang. A wave function in quantum mechanics describes the quantum state of an
isolated system of one or more particles.Exactly what does 'coming out of
eternity' mean in your scenario. Is the eternity the universe comes out of time
based? Because without space-time, there is no time. Whereas the universe
expanding to eternity takes, in terms of time, forever, and that is
time-based.Sean Carroll: Why Does Time Exist?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Experimenting
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Experimenting
I've been away for a while and thought it might be interesting to test the
waters here now that the dynamic is altered. It might just end up being the
same old, same old but, being an optimist, I'm going to give it a shot.
Hello FFL.
If you remove the o from your greeting, that might give you an indication
of the temperature of the waters. I was watching a program about wolves
recently. It seems when wolves are removed from the ecosystem, the system
becomes more unhealthy. The sick and weak animals proliferate and the health of
the herds deteriorates. That does not imply you are sick and weak, but having
run off, there are questions that may be asked, of all those who might be
reversing their departures. When a lot of prey is reintroduced to an area, one
wonders what might subsequently return.Experimental subjects are always welcome
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
P.S.: Note also that the quote itself states an opinion as if it were fact. Opsie! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Oddly enough, that quote (?) doesn't seem to appear in the archives. Wherever you got it from, it would be interesting if you were able to refute what I wrote. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What is past is past. Long live the present, an infinitesimal slice between a remembered then and an imaginary to be. But to resurrect a quote from the past: 'Judy is doing what she has done often before -- offering her opinion, and thereafter assuming it (and STATING it) as if it were fact. In other words, she is attempting to establish her own opinion AS fact.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional outrage buzz Judy. That was neither intended nor implied in what I wrote. I hadn't even conspired that as an angle when I wrote that. I was stating the obvious and as usual you got bent about it. Your choice. I don't believe that you act in that calculated a way here, so from my POV I would not accuse you of this directly or in implication. But seeing how reactive you got makes me think that perhaps a bit of the ol' enemy of my enemy is my friend at work here that brought you out of lurkdom, which has been replayed so many times in your years of posing here I hope you make a comical attempt to deny it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. Me: Nothing was implied Judy, it was all stated clearly. Even by your own analysis that opposing Doug/Buck may lead to being banned. It was your conclusion about why he bounced Barry for talking back to him. Being offended by the most obvious comment was your MO here so this is standard Judy. Judy: The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise. Me: Always nice to end with a note of condescension and self aggrandizement so we know it is really you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Of sound mind
Re overstimulated intellects: That doesn't strike me as a common problem in today's world! This is the age of dumbing down. Do you know if TM teachers were ever taught that - beyond the general stress-reducing effects of TM and talk of transcending and contacting pure consciousness - specific mantras could alter meditators' personalities in definite directions? If the theory is valid doesn't it make sense that when allocating mantras to newbies you could ask them what traits they wanted to develop! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've said many times that due to the use of the Saraswati mantra TMers often seem to have overstimulated intellects. Real gurus give students mantras that are balancing. On 06/20/2015 06:50 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re my post: . . . one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? . . . : No one responded to my query, no doubt in part because I was alluding to a flippant idea that someone could tell what someone else's TM mantra was merely by studying their interests. But perhaps someone with know-how about these seed syllables could come back to me if I re-phrase the question as follows: Why is it that certain sounds have become linked with particular gods? Setting aside pious myth-making and occult-cum-mystical theories isn't the obvious answer that the vibrations of certain mantras initiated changes in a meditator's personality that could be identified with the characteristics associated with said gods? If that's the case (what other explanation could there be?) is it ever suggested by Indian teachers today (or in the classical past) that adopting specific syllables guarantees the desired, wished-for traits the novice wants? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Here's a thought: these bīja - seed syllable - mantras though not having precise meanings are said to carry connections to spiritual principles. Look again at our TMO mantras whose effects are known. Take one example. I won't mention the syllable (!) but one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? There are charts published on the Net claiming that knowing someone is male or female; and knowing their age you can see which mantra they were given by their TM teacher. I don't know how reliable those charts are but wouldn't it be an impressive vindication of the TMO's claims if you could tell someone what his or her TM mantra was merely after studying their behaviour and interests! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM. Aha! I didn't know that. Makes sense - if MMY really believed that it was only suitable for recluses. I think it's been mentioned before on this site that the TMO line about OM isn't accepted by any other spiritual groups. We're encouraged to allow the syllable to vary as it wishes during a meditation session. I wonder if those who find their bija mantra changing spontaneously into OM are getting a hint from their deeper self that they are suitable for a retired, religious life . . . Of course, if it was allowed, THEN I just let the cat out of the bag about the holy sacred secret mantras, and seeing as only Maharishi Mahesh Yogi can possibly tell what is bad or good about any mantra that ever was, then THE D of DOOM will erase this post.. Maybe. I'm so confused.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
Seems like a solicitation to me. Ain't that agin the rules, Mr. Moderator?
Would you be keen to see a fund raising solicitation from Amma? Or Sri Sri
Ravi?Or a group that is opposed to TM and the TMO?
Your biases are showing Bucky.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Oddly enough, that quote (?) doesn't seem to appear in the archives. Wherever you got it from, it would be interesting if you were able to refute what I wrote. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What is past is past. Long live the present, an infinitesimal slice between a remembered then and an imaginary to be. But to resurrect a quote from the past: 'Judy is doing what she has done often before -- offering her opinion, and thereafter assuming it (and STATING it) as if it were fact. In other words, she is attempting to establish her own opinion AS fact.' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional outrage buzz Judy. That was neither intended nor implied in what I wrote. I hadn't even conspired that as an angle when I wrote that. I was stating the obvious and as usual you got bent about it. Your choice. I don't believe that you act in that calculated a way here, so from my POV I would not accuse you of this directly or in implication. But seeing how reactive you got makes me think that perhaps a bit of the ol' enemy of my enemy is my friend at work here that brought you out of lurkdom, which has been replayed so many times in your years of posing here I hope you make a comical attempt to deny it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. Me: Nothing was implied Judy, it was all stated clearly. Even by your own analysis that opposing Doug/Buck may lead to being banned. It was your conclusion about why he bounced Barry for talking back to him. Being offended by the most obvious comment was your MO here so this is standard Judy. Judy: The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise. Me: Always nice to end with a note of condescension and self aggrandizement so we know it is really you.
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Questions
Since I was once a resident of Fairfield, IA, I was wondering a couple things, so if any of you who live in FF might know... First does MUM still use what were once called town employees? Meaning of course non-meditating Fairfield residents who did jobs at the university. All the ones I worked with were pretty good people and in general more reliable workers than their TM counterparts. The other thing I already asked Bucky, but he ain't answered - busy with the lambing I expect. The question is are there unofficial places for people to do group meditation or TMSP in Fairfield? Places not run or monitored by the Movement? Thanks in advance for the answers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Of sound mind
Re my post: . . . one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? . . . : No one responded to my query, no doubt in part because I was alluding to a flippant idea that someone could tell what someone else's TM mantra was merely by studying their interests. But perhaps someone with know-how about these seed syllables could come back to me if I re-phrase the question as follows: Why is it that certain sounds have become linked with particular gods? Setting aside pious myth-making and occult-cum-mystical theories isn't the obvious answer that the vibrations of certain mantras initiated changes in a meditator's personality that could be identified with the characteristics associated with said gods? If that's the case (what other explanation could there be?) is it ever suggested by Indian teachers today (or in the classical past) that adopting specific syllables guarantees the desired, wished-for traits the novice wants? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Here's a thought: these bīja - seed syllable - mantras though not having precise meanings are said to carry connections to spiritual principles. Look again at our TMO mantras whose effects are known. Take one example. I won't mention the syllable (!) but one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? There are charts published on the Net claiming that knowing someone is male or female; and knowing their age you can see which mantra they were given by their TM teacher. I don't know how reliable those charts are but wouldn't it be an impressive vindication of the TMO's claims if you could tell someone what his or her TM mantra was merely after studying their behaviour and interests! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM. Aha! I didn't know that. Makes sense - if MMY really believed that it was only suitable for recluses. I think it's been mentioned before on this site that the TMO line about OM isn't accepted by any other spiritual groups. We're encouraged to allow the syllable to vary as it wishes during a meditation session. I wonder if those who find their bija mantra changing spontaneously into OM are getting a hint from their deeper self that they are suitable for a retired, religious life . . . Of course, if it was allowed, THEN I just let the cat out of the bag about the holy sacred secret mantras, and seeing as only Maharishi Mahesh Yogi can possibly tell what is bad or good about any mantra that ever was, then THE D of DOOM will erase this post.. Maybe. I'm so confused.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Of sound mind
I've said many times that due to the use of the Saraswati mantra TMers often seem to have overstimulated intellects. Real gurus give students mantras that are balancing. On 06/20/2015 06:50 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re my post: . . . one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? . . . : No one responded to my query, no doubt in part because I was alluding to a flippant idea that someone could tell what someone else's TM mantra was merely by studying their interests. But perhaps someone with know-how about these seed syllables could come back to me if I re-phrase the question as follows: Why is it that certain sounds have become linked with particular gods? Setting aside pious myth-making and occult-cum-mystical theories isn't the obvious answer that the vibrations of certain mantras initiated changes in a meditator's personality that could be identified with the characteristics associated with said gods? If that's the case (what other explanation could there be?) is it ever suggested by Indian teachers today (or in the classical past) that adopting specific syllables guarantees the desired, wished-for traits the novice wants? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Here's a thought: these bīja - seed syllable - mantras though not having precise meanings are said to carry connections to spiritual principles. Look again at our TMO mantras whose effects are known. Take one example. I won't mention the syllable (!) but one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? There are charts published on the Net claiming that knowing someone is male or female; and knowing their age you can see which mantra they were given by their TM teacher. I don't know how reliable those charts are but wouldn't it be an impressive vindication of the TMO's claims if you could tell someone what his or her TM mantra was merely after studying their behaviour and interests! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM. Aha! I didn't know that. Makes sense - if MMY really believed that it was only suitable for recluses. I think it's been mentioned before on this site that the TMO line about OM isn't accepted by any other spiritual groups. We're encouraged to allow the syllable to vary as it wishes during a meditation session. I wonder if those who find their bija mantra changing spontaneously into OM are getting a hint from their deeper self that they are suitable for a retired, religious life . . . Of course, if it was allowed, THEN I just let the cat out of the bag about the holy sacred secret mantras, and seeing as only Maharishi Mahesh Yogi can possibly tell what is bad or good about any mantra that ever was, then THE D of DOOM will erase this post.. Maybe. I'm so confused.
[FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
FW: On May 23, a record graduating class of 391 students from 61 countries graduated from Maharishi University of Management. Former Japan Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama gave the commencement address and received an honorary degree from President Morris. Watch the video of the graduation ceremonies here. https://www.mum.edu/whats-happening/graduation-2015/ Everyone who makes a gift to the Annual Fund provides invaluable financial support to our students, faculty, and administrators bringing the fulfillment of 391 new graduates. Your gift to the Annual Fund between now and June 30 will be matched! Every Gift Counts! ONLINE Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund View on www.mum.edu http://www.mum.edu/annualfund Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. Me: Nothing was implied Judy, it was all stated clearly. Even by your own analysis that opposing Doug/Buck may lead to being banned. It was your conclusion about why he bounced Barry for talking back to him. Being offended by the most obvious comment was your MO here so this is standard Judy. Judy: The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise. Me: Always nice to end with a note of condescension and self aggrandizement so we know it is really you.
[FairfieldLife] Experimenting
I've been away for a while and thought it might be interesting to test the waters here now that the dynamic is altered. It might just end up being the same old, same old but, being an optimist, I'm going to give it a shot. Hello FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Experimenting
Who are you? What do you want here? What makes you think you can join us? What is your history? Who are your friends here? Why would anyone want to be here..again? You've certainly (my use of this word is poetic) got off on the wrong foot; this will not go well, methinks. -- Brisley Twotonsils Beckensmythe ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I've been away for a while and thought it might be interesting to test the waters here now that the dynamic is altered. It might just end up being the same old, same old but, being an optimist, I'm going to give it a shot. Hello FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Experimenting
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Who are you? What do you want here? What makes you think you can join us? What is your history? Who are your friends here? Why would anyone want to be here..again? You've certainly (my use of this word is poetic) got off on the wrong foot; this will not go well, methinks. -- Brisley Twotonsils Beckensmythe I like you already, Mr Beckensmythe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I've been away for a while and thought it might be interesting to test the waters here now that the dynamic is altered. It might just end up being the same old, same old but, being an optimist, I'm going to give it a shot. Hello FFL.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional outrage buzz Judy. That was neither intended nor implied in what I wrote. I hadn't even conspired that as an angle when I wrote that. I was stating the obvious and as usual you got bent about it. Your choice. I don't believe that you act in that calculated a way here, so from my POV I would not accuse you of this directly or in implication. But seeing how reactive you got makes me think that perhaps a bit of the ol' enemy of my enemy is my friend at work here that brought you out of lurkdom, which has been replayed so many times in your years of posing here I hope you make a comical attempt to deny it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. Me: Nothing was implied Judy, it was all stated clearly. Even by your own analysis that opposing Doug/Buck may lead to being banned. It was your conclusion about why he bounced Barry for talking back to him. Being offended by the most obvious comment was your MO here so this is standard Judy. Judy: The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise. Me: Always nice to end with a note of condescension and self aggrandizement so we know it is really you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional outrage buzz Judy. That was neither intended nor implied in what I wrote. I hadn't even conspired that as an angle when I wrote that. I was stating the obvious and as usual you got bent about it. Your choice. I don't believe that you act in that calculated a way here, so from my POV I would not accuse you of this directly or in implication. But seeing how reactive you got makes me think that perhaps a bit of the ol' enemy of my enemy is my friend at work here that brought you out of lurkdom, which has been replayed so many times in your years of posing here I hope you make a comical attempt to deny it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't intend to stay around much longer. Me: Nothing was implied Judy, it was all stated clearly. Even by your own analysis that opposing Doug/Buck may lead to being banned. It was your conclusion about why he bounced Barry for talking back to him. Being offended by the most obvious comment was your MO here so this is standard Judy. Judy: The only reason I've stayed as long as I have is to try to keep you guys more honest than you would be otherwise. Me: Always nice to end with a note of condescension and self aggrandizement so we know it is really you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
Re With ideas like 'heart chakra' you have to provide real demonstrable confirmation of the existence of this feature: Does everything have to be validated by scientific, objective standards? Can't subjective experience count as evidence for an individual who has experimented with activating the chakra? Isn't it interesting that even here in the West we talk about the heart - not as an organ which pumps blood around the body - but in a touchy-feely sense. Why would we do that and why do we all recognise its appropriateness? Wiki tells me that the heart chakra is also associated with love and compassion, charity to others. When people say something they feel is vitally true in a heartfelt way it is a universal habit that they hold their overlapping hands over the top of their chests. (Or just their dominant hand.) Here's Amanda Knox! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : First of all the idea 'heart chakra' has to be discovered as a physical construct rather than being conceived as a metaphysical imaginary entity. What is missing so far in artificial intelligence is awareness. What is consciousness that a computer could be conscious? One of the scientific theories of consciousness (integrated information theory) indicates that simple neural nets could be conscious but a complex one might not be. This would mean consciousness is an emergent phenomenon. Some other theories (the unprovable ones) postulate panpsychism, the view that consciousness, mind or psyche is a universal feature of all things, and the primordial feature from which all other characteristics are derived. This is the basic idea in the Upanishads, Taoism, and Zen. Panpsychism takes the idea of gods or god and diffuses it, completely abstracting it, de-anthropomorphising it, removing the intentional stance as impetus for action, de-entifying it entirely. It basically makes consciousness disappear by making it what everything is. In this case, supposing that were true, any computer given sensory hardware would be conscious, but not necessarily self-aware, which would require a particular topology of the neural net. In speaking of the heart, we could consider psychopaths, which are often engaging, seemingly caring people, but inside they have zero compassion, zero empathy. A computer neural net could be programmed, or even taught, to give the appearance and behaviour of emotional warmth without actually having it. On the other hand, would that programming actually result in it having heart? An actor, or a psychopath can fake having heart, so perhaps it would depend on how many layers devoted to the feature exist in the neural net, how deep it really went. In mixing computer science and physics with ideas like 'heart chakra' you have to provide real demonstrable confirmation of the existence of this feature, not just postulate it is there because someone planted the idea in your mind. I have heard the idea for over 40 years, but don't know if it is real, and I suspect there are much better explanation for human emotional behaviour and feeling than this insubstantial concept. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness? Yep, that is interesting speculation. But can they make a heart chakra and its field affect for a computer? This entraining of computers they talk about with layers of stacked layers sounds a lot like method within training of field dogs for coordinated hunting with humans or starting horses and bringing them along as working horses or riding horses with humans. What seems is yet missing in this artificial intelligence is the operation of a heart chakra by experience. “..We train an artificial neural network by showing it millions of training examples and gradually adjusting the network parameters until it gives the classifications we want.” One of the challenges of neural networks is understanding what exactly goes on at each layer. We know that after training, each layer progressively extracts higher and higher-level features of the image, until the final layer essentially makes a decision on what the image shows. For example, the first layer maybe looks for edges or corners. Intermediate layers interpret the basic features to look for overall shapes or components, like a door or a leaf. The final few layers assemble those into complete interpretations—these neurons activate in response to very complex things such as entire buildings or trees. Working with a heart chakra, by contrast.. Buck | trailer SUNDANCE 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMm5uoZtXw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMm5uoZtXw Buck | trailer SUNDANCE 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMm5uoZtXw Buck - U.S. Documentary
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, Iowa Questions
Good questions. Yes more work is being done by the labor of outside employment. Is on a similar course like with the trajectories other spiritual millenarian revolutionary ashram-like villages in American history, like with spiritual practice groups in aspects of transcendentalism in the Shakers, Amana, Harmonists, Zoar and old Quaker meetings. Seems in a life-cycle the coming to rely on outside labor to keep the institutions of the groups going can become more and more necessary towards an end. Look at these two posts on aspects of the demographics of this.. Life-cycle within Communal Spiritual Groups https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/ChNcesJm1Cs https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/ChNcesJm1Cs Yes there are group meditations in town that are not sponsored by the movement. Look in the Fairfield Weekly Reader to find these or ask around when you get here. There are a number of group meditations in the larger meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa 'separate' from the ones facilitated by the TM movement. There is now a facility downtown for group practice of TM meditation and TM-Siddhis but you need to be certified by the current TM movement with a current badge to meditate with a TM.org facilitated group. There are other group meditations with meditators to choose from otherwise in Fairfield too. Fairfield is quite a mature meditating community with spiritual practice. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote : Since I was once a resident of Fairfield, IA, I was wondering a couple things, so if any of you who live in FF might know... First does MUM still use what were once called town employees? Meaning of course non-meditating Fairfield residents who did jobs at the university. All the ones I worked with were pretty good people and in general more reliable workers than their TM counterparts. The other thing I already asked Bucky, but he ain't answered - busy with the lambing I expect. The question is are there unofficial places for people to do group meditation or TMSP in Fairfield? Places not run or monitored by the Movement? Thanks in advance for the answers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
Obviously, not anything goes. Outing people being one,. excessive trolling being another. I'll back Doug up with his actions to put an end to Barry's posting privileges. I admire your attempts and those of others to reverse this action of the moderator. But, I'd like to see Doug's decision stick. And, it's not like you don't have other options. But for some, the payoff is simply to go after others in what is widely perceived to be an excessively mean spirited manner. And if you have a touch of anti social tendencies, I guess it works fine. For most others it's seen as a form of abuse. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Seems like a solicitation to me. Ain't that agin the rules, Mr. Moderator? Would you be keen to see a fund raising solicitation from Amma? Or Sri Sri Ravi? Or a group that is opposed to TM and the TMO? Your biases are showing Bucky. From the Fairfield Life Yahoo page - note the nest to last entry: Messages are not moderated. Just sayin'. Group Settings This is a restricted group. Attachments are permitted. Members can hide email address. Listed in Yahoo Groups directory. Membership requires approval. Messages are not moderated. All members can post messages. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education FW: On May 23, a record graduating class of 391 students from 61 countries graduated from Maharishi University of Management. Former Japan Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama gave the commencement address and received an honorary degree from President Morris. Watch the video of the graduation ceremonies here. https://www.mum.edu/whats-happening/graduation-2015/ Everyone who makes a gift to the Annual Fund provides invaluable financial support to our students, faculty, and administrators bringing the fulfillment of 391 new graduates. Your gift to the Annual Fund between now and June 30 will be matched! Every Gift Counts! ONLINE Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund View on www.mum.edu http://www.mum.edu/annualfund Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
Related to FFL? Of course this is packed relevant news to FF when we consider the numbers, our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. You don't live here but the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa. The local meditating university is a huge economic flywheel. Paste: I have been a Trustee of Maharishi University of Management for almost three years. My focus is generally in the field of campus reconstruction, sustainability, and master planning. Lately I have been reviewing the finances and the operating budget. I can honestly say that Michael Spivak and the Executive Council are working miracles with the available funds to maintain and expand our University. Every possible donation and resource is being used for the education and enlightenment of our students as well as our whole world family. The Annual Fund is a crucial contributor to MUM, sustaining our University in its role to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the world. The Fund supports student scholarships, faculty, staff, recruiting, academic programs, campus sustainability and reconstruction, and so much more. This year we project a shortfall of $300,000 in the Annual Fund from a temporary setback from one of our regular donor foundations. Having a firsthand look at the budget, I can tell you that we absolutely need to make up for this shortfall. Over the years, I have put myself out on a limb managing Maharishi Global Construction, building 50 Vastu homes and buildings in Fairfield/Vedic City, and constructing the Golden Dome Market and donating it to the University as a major source of revenue year after year. It has been an honor, a joy, a challenge, and a huge gift to my life being part of Maharishi's legacy. Maharishi once told me: “Just be thankful we were picked by Nature to be part of this Cosmic Event to bring Heaven on Earth.” Most of us, over many decades, have shared Maharishi's vision for the world and have been part of this huge transformation of time. We all know that Maharishi University of Management is a powerful source of Maharishi Vedic Science and its technologies going out to the world. This is an enormous responsibility Boldly and humbly, I would like to ask your help. Please contribute to the Annual Fund drive that must be fulfilled by June 30. It is time once again to do what we always do, give and support without reservation to our cosmic mission to raise the consciousness of the world. This year we are counting on our donor family to double or even triple our giving to set MUM on an unrestricted path. Click here http://www.mum.edu/annualfund to make your gift online. Thank you so much for your consideration. Jai Guru Dev Combined with this post this is all very evidently newsworthy to the FF community. What zip code do you live in anyway? I would say you are just harassing my bringing this substantial and material content to FFL with this trollish criticism of yours published below here, harassing my posting this content about the local meditating university to FFL. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote : Seems like a solicitation to me. Ain't that agin the rules, Mr. Moderator? Would you be keen to see a fund raising solicitation from Amma? Or Sri Sri Ravi? Or a group that is opposed to TM and the TMO? Your biases are showing Bucky. From the Fairfield Life Yahoo page - note the nest to last entry: Messages are not moderated. Just sayin'. Group Settings This is a restricted group. Attachments are permitted. Members can hide email address. Listed in Yahoo Groups directory. Membership requires approval. Messages are not moderated. All members can post messages. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education FW: On May 23, a record graduating class of 391 students from 61 countries graduated from Maharishi University of Management. Former Japan Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama gave the commencement address and received an honorary degree from President Morris. Watch the video of the graduation ceremonies here. https://www.mum.edu/whats-happening/graduation-2015/ Everyone who makes a gift to the Annual Fund provides invaluable financial support to our students, faculty, and administrators bringing the fulfillment of 391 new graduates. Your gift to the Annual Fund between now and June 30 will be matched! Every Gift Counts! ONLINE Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund View on www.mum.edu
