[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

OK. I;m waiting to see what BIG and BAD happens today.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day..."
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  

[FairfieldLife] Does Ben Carson Discriminate Against Muslims?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The US Constitution allows all Americans born in this country to be eligible to 
run for president.  Is he pandering to the conservative Republicans?
 

 Ben Carson Defends Muslim Remarks: 'Our Real Problem Is Our Politically 
Correct Culture' 
http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carson-defends-muslim-remarks-real-problem-politically-172013609.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carson-defends-muslim-remarks-real-problem-politically-172013609.html
 
 
 Ben Carson Defends Muslim Remarks: 'Our Real Problem... 
http://news.yahoo.com/ben-carson-defends-muslim-remarks-real-problem-politically-172013609.html
 "Sharia law is completely antithetical to Americanism," Carson told reporters 
minutes before his upcoming rally. "They say we know you and what 

[FairfieldLife] BRAHMACHARI GIRISH ACQUITTED FROM CRIMINAL CHARGES

['Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

> Criminal allegations by a lady teacher of Maharishi Vidya Mandir Bhopal 
> against Brahmachari Girish, Group Chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir Schools 
> were proven wrong when Honourable VII Addition Session Court of Mrs. Saida 
> Bano Rahman has passed the order of acquittal in favour of Brahmachari Girish.
> This teacher and her husband has conspired and framed false and self made 
> charges against Brahmachari Girish few years back and this case has closed 
> today with acquittal order after trail of about 21 Months.
> Brahmachari Girish Ji has expressed that “Indian eternal principle 
> Satyamevajayate-Truth is Always Victorious has been re-established again. 
> Truth is eternal, beyond limitations of time and space, invincible and time 
> repeatedly has witnessed its victory. Its true that in Kaliyaga proving truth 
> takes little longer, but at the end it gets established with the support of 
> Laws of Nature.†
> Brahmachari said that "few of ex-employees of the organization, who have been 
> expelled from service on the grounds of indiscipline, financial embezzlement 
> and anti-organizational activities, have joined hands and are involved in 
> criminal conspiracy against me and Maharishi Organizations. This case was one 
> of these conspiracies. We have proof of this and our team of Lawyers will 
> unveil soon revengeful, defamatory activities of these miscreants against 
> Maharishi Organizations. We are firm believer of the justice of Nature and we 
> have faith on the Judiciary of India and we hope this faith will last 
> forever.†
> Giving credit of this victory to almighty God, Gurudev Swami Brahmanand 
> Saraswati ji and His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ji, Girish ji has 
> appreciated his sincere colleagues and all members of different Maharishi 
> organization and said “All officers, teachers, employees and well wishes of 
> Maharishi Organizations who have maintained unity, patience and peace during 
> this hard time and achieved success, deserve great appreciation and heartiest 
> thanks.
> Brahmachari has extended his sincere thanks to team of his Lawyers special 
> Senior Advocate Shri Vijay Choudhary, Shri Vivek Choudhary of Bhopal and 
> Senior Lawyers of Honourable High Court Shri Surendra Singh and Manish Dutt.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dayum! Anne and I agree on sumpin.Don't wait, whatever is going to happen will 
happen regardless. According to Johnathan Cahn, nothing has to happen. He noted 
that whenever you try to put God in a box, He usually gets out.

 

 I told you Mike, we may not agree on virtually anything but I like you. I'm 
not sure why - maybe it's those raptors...
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:59 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 OK. I;m waiting to see what BIG and BAD happens today.
 

 Don't wait, if it's going to happen it will happen all on its own without 
anyone waiting around. Thanks for reminder, I had forgotten all about it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day..."
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  





 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: BRAHMACHARI GIRISH ACQUITTED FROM CRIMINAL CHARGES

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 > Criminal allegations by a lady teacher of Maharishi Vidya Mandir Bhopal 
 > against Brahmachari Girish, Group Chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir Schools 
 > were proven wrong when Honourable VII Addition Session Court of Mrs. Saida 
 > Bano Rahman has passed the order of acquittal in favour of Brahmachari 
 > Girish.
> This teacher and her husband has conspired and framed false and self made 
> charges against Brahmachari Girish few years back and this case has closed 
> today with acquittal order after trail of about 21 Months.
> Brahmachari Girish Ji has expressed that “Indian eternal principle 
> Satyamevajayate-Truth is Always Victorious has been re-established again. 
> Truth is eternal, beyond limitations of time and space, invincible and time 
> repeatedly has witnessed its victory. Its true that in Kaliyaga proving truth 
> takes little longer, but at the end it gets established with the support of 
> Laws of Nature.†
> Brahmachari said that "few of ex-employees of the organization, who have been 
> expelled from service on the grounds of indiscipline, financial embezzlement 
> and anti-organizational activities, have joined hands and are involved in 
> criminal conspiracy against me and Maharishi Organizations. This case was one 
> of these conspiracies. We have proof of this and our team of Lawyers will 
> unveil soon revengeful, defamatory activities of these miscreants against 
> Maharishi Organizations. We are firm believer of the justice of Nature and we 
> have faith on the Judiciary of India and we hope this faith will last 
> forever.†
> Giving credit of this victory to almighty God, Gurudev Swami Brahmanand 
> Saraswati ji and His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ji, Girish ji has 
> appreciated his sincere colleagues and all members of different Maharishi 
> organization and said “All officers, teachers, employees and well wishes of 
> Maharishi Organizations who have maintained unity, patience and peace during 
> this hard time and achieved success, deserve great appreciation and heartiest 
> thanks.
> Brahmachari has extended his sincere thanks to team of his Lawyers special 
> Senior Advocate Shri Vijay Choudhary, Shri Vivek Choudhary of Bhopal and 
> Senior Lawyers of Honourable High Court Shri Surendra Singh and Manish Dutt.
 

 Oh Jeez, I can sense MJ is already apoplectic.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 OK. I;m waiting to see what BIG and BAD happens today.
 

 Don't wait, if it's going to happen it will happen all on its own without 
anyone waiting around. Thanks for reminder, I had forgotten all about it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day..."
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It all depends on how you interpret the events.  Pope Francis arrived here in 
the USA today.  By itself, it cannot be interpreted as a bad event.  But in 
western astrology, the Sun is fallen at the Autumn Equinox.  The Sun symbolizes 
the ruler.  So, it can be interpreted that a spiritual ruler from another 
country has humbled himself to visit a troubled country or world. 

 Although the Catholic Church does not favor astrology, it is curious why the 
Pope chose the time autumn equinox to visit Cuba and the USA.  And, he will 
address the US Congress this week as well.  Was this intended or coincidental?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 OK. I;m waiting to see what BIG and BAD happens today.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day..."
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It all depends on how you interpret the events.  Pope Francis arrived here in 
the USA today.  By itself, it cannot be interpreted as a bad event.  But in 
western astrology, the Sun is fallen at the Autumn Equinox.  The Sun symbolizes 
the ruler.  So, it can be interpreted that a spiritual ruler from another 
country has humbled himself to visit a troubled country or world. 

 Although the Catholic Church does not favor astrology, it is curious why the 
Pope chose the time autumn equinox to visit Cuba and the USA.  And, he will 
address the US Congress this week as well.  Was this intended or coincidental?
 

 All I hope is that the secret security dudes make sure he leaves the US in one 
piece.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 OK. I;m waiting to see what BIG and BAD happens today.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day..."
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  

[FairfieldLife] BRAHMACHARI GIRISH ACQUITTED

[srijau]

BRAHMACHARI GIRISH ACQUITTED FROM CRIMINAL CHARGES 
 Criminal allegations by a lady teacher of Maharishi Vidya Mandir Bhopal 
against Brahmachari Girish, Group Chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir Schools 
were proven wrong when Honourable VII Addition Session Court of Mrs. Saida Bano 
Rahman has passed the order of acquittal in favour of Brahmachari Girish.
 This teacher and her husband has conspired and framed false and self made 
charges against Brahmachari Girish few years back and this case has closed 
today with acquittal order after trail of about 21 Months.
 Brahmachari Girish Ji has expressed that “Indian eternal principle 
Satyamevajayate-Truth is Always Victorious has been re-established again. Truth 
is eternal, beyond limitations of time and space, invincible and time 
repeatedly has witnessed its victory. Its true that in Kaliyaga proving truth 
takes little longer, but at the end it gets established with the support of 
Laws of Nature.”
 Brahmachari said that "few of ex-employees of the organization, who have been 
expelled from service on the grounds of indiscipline, financial embezzlement 
and anti-organizational activities, have joined hands and are involved in 
criminal conspiracy against me and Maharishi Organizations. This case was one 
of these conspiracies. We have proof of this and our team of Lawyers will 
unveil soon revengeful, defamatory activities of these miscreants against 
Maharishi Organizations. We are firm believer of the justice of Nature and we 
have faith on the Judiciary of India and we hope this faith will last forever.”
 Giving credit of this victory to almighty God, Gurudev Swami Brahmanand 
Saraswati ji and His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ji, Girish ji has 
appreciated his sincere colleagues and all members of different Maharishi 
organization and said “All officers, teachers, employees and well wishes of 
Maharishi Organizations who have maintained unity, patience and peace during 
this hard time and achieved success, deserve great appreciation and heartiest 
thanks.
 Brahmachari has extended his sincere thanks to team of his Lawyers special 
Senior Advocate Shri Vijay Choudhary, Shri Vivek Choudhary of Bhopal and Senior 
Lawyers of Honourable High Court Shri Surendra Singh and Manish Dutt. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dayum! Anne and I agree on sumpin.Don't wait, whatever is going to happen will 
happen regardless. According to Johnathan Cahn, nothing has to happen. He noted 
that whenever you try to put God in a box, He usually gets out.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:59 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

OK. I;m waiting to see what BIG and BAD happens today.
Don't wait, if it's going to happen it will happen all on its own without 
anyone waiting around. Thanks for reminder, I had forgotten all about it.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood of 
something BIG and BAD happening that day..."this is from the group SAMVA 
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[FairfieldLife] I Love This Stuff

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/fallen-tree-reveals-medieval-irish-skeleton-in-its-roots-1.2563950?google_editors_picks=true
 
http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/fallen-tree-reveals-medieval-irish-skeleton-in-its-roots-1.2563950?google_editors_picks=true

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ironic, again, that Ronald Reagan was the father of the 'amnesty for illegal 
immigrants' program - converted nearly 3 million to US citizens that way, 
during his Presidency. The reason his program of reform failed, is that his own 
party made him strip out all the legislation that enforced the laws against the 
hiring of illegal immigrants, creating the situation today, where some of the 
Fortune 500 depend on illegal immigrants to keep their bottom lines healthy.  

 Immigration, like gay marriage, like abortion, is another fake wedge issue. 
Keeps us squabbling, so that no one notices that the money backers all want the 
same thing, to make more money at all costs. As long as there are emotional hot 
buttons to keep us distracted, the politicians will push them every time. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Merriam-Webster defines *Immigrant* as someone who comes to another country to 
set up residency. Massachusetts was not a country or state at the time of the 
first Thanksgiving. At some point it became a recognized colony of the crown. 
There was no immigration. No permission to enter into the area around Plymouth 
Rock and settle was needed. No laws were violated. There was no government. 
Perhaps from an indigenous point of view, there should have been! Look at what 
they lost, EVERYTHING!< As for the Immigrant's Day thing, it wasn't a rumor. 
They admit to it. Someone on that conference call, by invitation only and 99 
chances out of a hundred were or was, an Obama supporter, made the suggestion, 
preposterous as it was. Anne, are you an Obama supporter? You didn't think it 
Preposterous. Did you?

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
 

 But the Pilgrims were immigrants and apparently helped and welcomed by the 
indigenous peoples at the time who aided them in all sorts of ways and so 90 
Natives and 53 Pilgrims spent 3 days celebrating the first harvest. Sounds like 
these immigrants were treated better than some other countries as treating the 
Syrians and why not call "Thanksgiving" "Immigrants Day"? I think, although 
it's a bogus rumor, that would be very apropos! LOL
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!
 

 From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Neither golf day or fund raise day!
  The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday
 

 


 -Original Message-
 From: ultrarishi 
 To: FairfieldLife 
 Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 

 I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans 
Day. 

 Don't think D Day is a National Holiday 
 
 





 


 












 













 


 

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[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish of Sept 23

[jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It all depends on how you interpret the events.  Pope Francis arrived here in 
the USA today.  By itself, it cannot be interpreted as a bad event.  But in 
western astrology, the Sun is fallen at the Autumn Equinox.  The Sun symbolizes 
the ruler.  So, it can be interpreted that a spiritual ruler from another 
country has humbled himself to visit a troubled country or world. 

 Although the Catholic Church does not favor astrology, it is curious why the 
Pope chose the time autumn equinox to visit Cuba and the USA.  And, he will 
address the US Congress this week as well.  Was this intended or coincidental?

The Pope's visit is timed to coincide with the UN summit of 100 leaders from 
all over the world, and he will give a speech at the summit. So unless the UN 
is also timing its summit according to the autumn equinox, I think you're 
stretching it a bit






 

 All I hope is that the secret security dudes make sure he leaves the US in one 
piece.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 OK. I;m waiting to see what BIG and BAD happens today.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The astrological indications for 23 Sep 2015 seem to support the likelihood 
of something BIG and BAD happening that day..."
 this is from the group SAMVA 

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks for the acknowledgment, Ollie. I noticed this too. The praise should go 
to yahoo-groups. Folks in the 'Debate' thread seemed consciously respectful in 
their writing on such a volatile subject with chosen writing written well 
within the yahoo-groups guidelines of civility. Was really great and 
substantial content well said. At one point someone tried a hook barbed with 
superiorism but nobody took the bait. The whole thread evidently shows a 
thoughtful culture of maturing self-moderation of the group. -JaiGuruYouAll! 
 
 
 Def: Superiorism (noun) – the state of believing you and/or your ideas are 
better than everyone else’s and attributing negative motives and/or lower 
levels of intelligence to anyone who would disagree 
 
 
 FFL # 420760Superiorism
 -Bhairitu's Link
 18 September 2015
 

 
 420913"olliesedwuz" said: To Doug: Thanks for (re)creating a great environment 
here - it is really taking off. ..
 I don't think we will see eye to eye on this within the context of this 
discussion, though I heartily agree with what you had said earlier about being 
true to oneself, and having the courage of your convictions (paraphrasing). The 
topic of abortion can be such a contentious issue, and yet we've had about 
fifty exchanges on this subject, here on FFL, opening up a host of different 
perspectives.

 420849back_formore writes: (BTW, I like discussing things with you because no 
matter how much we might disagree you are alway pleasant and civil. I think 
this is one of the things I like most about FFL now - everyone can speak their 
mind without the peanut gallery inciting dissension by misrepresenting every 
viewpoint and consequently skewing discussions until hey resemble nothing but 
juvenile pie throwing contests) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I don't think we will see eye to eye on this within the context of this 
discussion, though I heartily agree with what you had said earlier about being 
true to oneself, and having the courage of your convictions (paraphrasing). The 
topic of abortion can be such a contentious issue, and yet we've had about 
fifty exchanges on this subject, here on FFL, opening up a host of different 
perspectives. 

 To Doug: Thanks for (re)creating a great environment here - it is really 
taking off. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Geeez dude, don't take my word. Check it out your self. As for the definition 
of murder, check it out . It also usually includes willful and *unjust* 
killing.   A fetus doesn't threaten anyone. It is totally innocent.  In the 
case of wars, killing an enemy that is a threat, has never been considered 
murder. Although by today's standard there are clear limitations. Even the 
killing of civilians is not considered murder, if it was not intended and I 
would assume precautions were taken to avoid it. As far as I can tell, every 
culture and religion has made an exception for killing another human for self 
defense and war or at least a defensive war.  

 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'
 
 
   Even if I take you at your word here, this still lacks an explanation for 
why this is the bigger issue, vs. the lives lost through US led invasions of 
other countries. To say waging war is self-defense makes such actions morally 
meaningless, allowing us aggression in any quarter, justified as 
'self-defense'. Where are the demonstrations against the murders occurring as a 
result of our actions outside our borders? Why should independent human beings 
get less or no consideration, than fetuses, regarding their murders, if we 
define murder as you have here? It seems you are going after the easy target.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  Murder is defined as the willful killing of another *human being*, 
*especially* with malice. Notice , one doesn't have to exhibit malice to have 
committed murder. If a fetus is not a human being, what is it? Mind you, there 
was a time in our history when slaves were not considered complete human 
beings.
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'
 
 
   Let's talk about this term, "murder", wrt an abortion. I know the radical 
preachers have seized on this term as a graphic and ugly description of 
abortion. But, have any of them known a murder victim? Someone who had a full 
life and a circle of friends and family, those that loved them, who would never 
see them again? Hard core memories of this person remain, their smile, their 
belongings, the many activities shared, their pictures in the high school 
yearbook. I lost two friends that way in high school, both young women, one was 
hitchhiking, and the other's car broke down.
 

 And does anyone 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'll give you that! The chamber of commerce wants cheap labor. Now, do you have 
an explanation why Democrats want a bunch of illegal immigrants made 
legal?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
   
    Ironic, again, that Ronald Reagan was the father of the 'amnesty for 
illegal immigrants' program - converted nearly 3 million to US citizens that 
way, during his Presidency. The reason his program of reform failed, is that 
his own party made him strip out all the legislation that enforced the laws 
against the hiring of illegal immigrants, creating the situation today, where 
some of the Fortune 500 depend on illegal immigrants to keep their bottom lines 
healthy. 
Immigration, like gay marriage, like abortion, is another fake wedge issue. 
Keeps us squabbling, so that no one notices that the money backers all want the 
same thing, to make more money at all costs. As long as there are emotional hot 
buttons to keep us distracted, the politicians will push them every time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Merriam-Webster defines *Immigrant* as someone who comes to another country to 
set up residency. Massachusetts was not a country or state at the time of the 
first Thanksgiving. At some point it became a recognized colony of the crown. 
There was no immigration. No permission to enter into the area around Plymouth 
Rock and settle was needed. No laws were violated. There was no government. 
Perhaps from an indigenous point of view, there should have been! Look at what 
they lost, EVERYTHING!< As for the Immigrant's Day thing, it wasn't a rumor. 
They admit to it. Someone on that conference call, by invitation only and 99 
chances out of a hundred were or was, an Obama supporter, made the suggestion, 
preposterous as it was. Anne, are you an Obama supporter? You didn't think it 
Preposterous. Did you?
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
But the Pilgrims were immigrants and apparently helped and welcomed by the 
indigenous peoples at the time who aided them in all sorts of ways and so 90 
Natives and 53 Pilgrims spent 3 days celebrating the first harvest. Sounds like 
these immigrants were treated better than some other countries as treating the 
Syrians and why not call "Thanksgiving" "Immigrants Day"? I think, although 
it's a bogus rumor, that would be very apropos! LOL

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!

  From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 Neither golf day or fund raise day!
 The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday



-Original Message-
From: ultrarishi 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"



I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

Don't think D Day is a National Holiday







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I don't think anybody suggested he did.
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



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but I didn't actually believe Obama had come up with that idea. 
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
But the Pilgrims were immigrants and apparently helped and welcomed by the 
indigenous peoples at the time who aided them in all sorts of ways and so 90 
Natives and 53 Pilgrims spent 3 days celebrating the first harvest. Sounds like 
these immigrants were treated better than some other countries as treating the 
Syrians and why not call "Thanksgiving" "Immigrants Day"? I think, although 
it's a bogus rumor, that would be very apropos! LOL

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!

  From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 Neither golf day or fund raise day!
 The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday



-Original Message-
From: ultrarishi 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"



I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

Don't think D Day is a National Holiday







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
 

 But the Pilgrims were immigrants and apparently helped and welcomed by the 
indigenous peoples at the time who aided them in all sorts of ways and so 90 
Natives and 53 Pilgrims spent 3 days celebrating the first harvest. Sounds like 
these immigrants were treated better than some other countries as treating the 
Syrians and why not call "Thanksgiving" "Immigrants Day"? I think, although 
it's a bogus rumor, that would be very apropos! LOL
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!
 

 From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Neither golf day or fund raise day!
  The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday
 

 


 -Original Message-
 From: ultrarishi 
 To: FairfieldLife 
 Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 

 I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans 
Day. 

 Don't think D Day is a National Holiday 
 
 





 


 












 


 

[FairfieldLife] New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUPMy name is Dave Ryan, I have been 
practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: (govenor on 1976 flying 
course).Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying 
course; finished with a BIDS degree at MIU. 
MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.Created: 
Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private settings.
Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.I currently live, travel and 
volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living a simple life.

My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a sense, 
without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). The 
audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.
I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most. 

I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I. I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for 
free under KDP Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and 
they may connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the 
comment, the better as it shapes or challenges more projection of love, on 
my end...if that makes sense to you.
It would certaintly enrich my life to share and challenge thought with those 
who experience greater awareness in thought. I am outside the box, a rebel of 
sort, and I am most certaintly respectful of Maharishi's wishes and 
expectations of us all.  I did not ask permission or grace from within the TM 
org. to write or publish this book. Reason being, the book is not about TM, it 
is a subjective experience, a work of effortless discovery of clarity in 
thinking. Book addresses my subjective experience of connection to cosmos; man, 
woman and nature. Subjective experience comes as word. The book addresses 
politics, capitalism, human behavior and perception. 75 % of book is prose and 
verse leading, logic of mind. Over 150 images of my art, reflecting the themes 
of each verse.
So here is a link to my book if u are curious..look inside the book of 463 
pages..u can pull up 10% for free to read.If u like the book's potential for 
discussion and enjoyment, I'll gift u a copy if you'll read it. You can tear it 
apart or not, just let me know if this book would be a benefit to this site. If 
not please let me know as well...book link below with reviews
thanks 
Dave Ryan
http://www.amazon.com/PIRATES-CALL-MAHARISHI-MAHESH-YOGI-ebook/dp/B0140UAU1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=books=UTF8=1442278180=1-1=a+pirates+call
 
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Sublunary?
 

Sublunary sphere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublunary_sphere 
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublunary_sphere 
 
 Sublunary sphere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublunary_sphere The sublunary sphere is a 
concept in Aristotelian physics derived from Greek astronomy.[1] It is the 
region of the geocentric cosmos below the Moon, c...
 
 
 
 View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublunary_sphere 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 "Unthinking man, remember this, 
 Though fond of sublunary bliss, 

 Make hay while the sun shines..
 the Dome doors open for meditation at 6:40am CST  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My days, my weeks, my months, my years,
 Fly rapid as the whirling spheres, 
 Fly rapid as the whirling spheres, 
 Around the steady pole. 
 Time, like the tide, its motion keeps, 
 And I must launch thro' endless deeps,
 And I must launch thro' endless deeps, 
 Where endless ages roll.
 

 The grave is near the cradle seen,
 How swift the moments pass between, 
 How swift the moments pass between, 
 And whisper as they fly. 
 "Unthinking man, remember this, 
 Though fond of sublunary bliss, 
 Though fond of sublunary bliss, 
 That you must groan and die." 
 

 My soul, attend the solemn call, 
 Thine earthly tent must shortly fall, 
 Thine earthly tent must shortly fall, 
 And thou must take thy flight. 
 Beyond the vast expansive blue, 
 To sing above, as angels do, 
 To sing above, as angels do,
 Or sing in endless night. 
 

 Joshua Smith's Divine Hymns, 1794.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is sort of funny.  A couple of weeks ago my wife and I were having dinner 
in a restaurant in a better part of town, where I also went to high school.  It 
was a lot busier than we expected. We were sitting at the outdoor bar, and I 
hear a couple guys talking about the best looking girl in our high school 
during those days.  I mentioned how odd that was to my wife, and then she 
overheard the bartender talking to one of the group about where the their high 
school reunion was going to after this little pre get together. 

 This group was a year behind me, (thank God), but I was surprised at just how 
old everyone looked.
 

 On the other hand, the person I see in the mirror now, for the first time, is 
starting to look pretty old as well.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 64 next month. Just went to my 45th year high school reunion last night, 
couldn't recognize a soul! We all looked so old! Everybody was going around 
looking at our name tags with our senior pictures on them to see who they 
recognized! It was hilarious.  My dad died when I was nine, I never married 
because I never expected to live long enough to raise a family. Didn't want to 
put my kids through my own personal experience. Big mistake, maybe. Hear I am 
at 64, old enough to be a grandfather. However , raising a family, I wouldn't 
have had the wonderful experiences I have had with Maharishi.

 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
At this point I would have to ask your age. I would guess you were born well 
after the beginning of the *Great Society*. That is when out of wedlock 
birthrates began do increase, when the government told the masses, we will take 
care of your babies, women began to feel there was no need for a man in the 
house, a bread winner. Children started growing up without a male role model 
and authority figure in the house and crime started ramping up. Out of wedlock 
birth rates in the black community today near 80% and about 40 % in white 
homes, the last I read. This was unheard of before the beginning of the *Great 
Society*.
 

 That's funny because I was going to ask your age as well based on some of your 
comments (BTW, I like discussing things with you because no matter how much we 
might disagree you are alway pleasant and civil. I think this is one of the 
things I like most about FFL now - everyone can speak their mind without the 
peanut gallery inciting dissension by misrepresenting every viewpoint and 
consequently skewing discussions until hey resemble nothing but juvenile pie 
throwing contests). I was born in 1956 so that makes me much older than you 
think. In addition, I have never had an abortion nor do I have any children (by 
definite choice). When my husband and I were married he had already been 
married before and had had a vasectomy (he is 7 years older than I am) and if 
we were going to have children together he was going to have to have the 
vasectomy reversed but much to his relief I told him I had no desire for 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Agreed - It always feels a little racist to me also, this whole scaredy-cat 
routine over Barack Obama's patriotism and place of birth. There is an ugliness 
to raising this as an issue, that hasn't been applied to other recent 
Presidents. Clearly a smear campaign to undermine his legitimacy. Sometimes I 
wonder who the far right are working for, since some appear completely opposed 
to our current way of life in this country. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm afraid not, Mike. Both your posts on this were wildly misleading. 

The very notion of Obama changing Thanksgiving Day to Immigrants Day is 
preposterous, but it fits smoothly into the anti-Obama nonsense that the far 
right indulges in all the time: Obama is not an American, therefore he does not 
revere Thanksgiving like all good Americans do, and he wants to change it to 
Immigrants day because he is sympathetic to the flood of illegals that are 
pouring in and ruining this once-great country of ours, and is of course an 
immigrant himself (and an illegal one, too). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You might re-read my original post. Even Snopes said someone involved in a 
conference call made the suggestion. Snopes validated my original post.
 

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   You should really check your sources before passing on nonsense like that. 
Read this from Snopes.

Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp 
Rumor: President Obama plans to issue an executive order changing the name of 
Thanksgiving to


 
 View on www.snopes.com 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!
 

 From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Neither golf day or fund raise day!
  The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday
 

 


 -Original Message-
 From: ultrarishi 
 To: FairfieldLife 
 Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 

 I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans 
Day. 

 Don't think D Day is a National Holiday 
 
 





 


 












 













 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am curious 
about your statement below that you are more one pointed and disciplined than 
most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? :-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUP
 My name is Dave Ryan, I have been practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: 
(govenor on 1976 flying course).
 Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying course; 
finished with a BIDS degree at MIU. 

 MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.
 Created: Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private 
settings.
 

 Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.
 I currently live, travel and volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living 
a simple life.

 

 My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a 
sense, without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). 
The audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.
 

 I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most. 

 

 I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I.
 I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for free under KDP 
Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and they may 
connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the comment, 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I don't think we will see eye to eye on this within the context of this 
discussion, though I heartily agree with what you had said earlier about being 
true to oneself, and having the courage of your convictions (paraphrasing). The 
topic of abortion can be such a contentious issue, and yet we've had about 
fifty exchanges on this subject, here on FFL, opening up a host of different 
perspectives. 

 To Doug: Thanks for (re)creating a great environment here - it is really 
taking off. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Geeez dude, don't take my word. Check it out your self. As for the definition 
of murder, check it out . It also usually includes willful and *unjust* 
killing.   A fetus doesn't threaten anyone. It is totally innocent.  In the 
case of wars, killing an enemy that is a threat, has never been considered 
murder. Although by today's standard there are clear limitations. Even the 
killing of civilians is not considered murder, if it was not intended and I 
would assume precautions were taken to avoid it. As far as I can tell, every 
culture and religion has made an exception for killing another human for self 
defense and war or at least a defensive war.  

 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'
 
 
   Even if I take you at your word here, this still lacks an explanation for 
why this is the bigger issue, vs. the lives lost through US led invasions of 
other countries. To say waging war is self-defense makes such actions morally 
meaningless, allowing us aggression in any quarter, justified as 
'self-defense'. Where are the demonstrations against the murders occurring as a 
result of our actions outside our borders? Why should independent human beings 
get less or no consideration, than fetuses, regarding their murders, if we 
define murder as you have here? It seems you are going after the easy target.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  Murder is defined as the willful killing of another *human being*, 
*especially* with malice. Notice , one doesn't have to exhibit malice to have 
committed murder. If a fetus is not a human being, what is it? Mind you, there 
was a time in our history when slaves were not considered complete human 
beings.
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'
 
 
   Let's talk about this term, "murder", wrt an abortion. I know the radical 
preachers have seized on this term as a graphic and ugly description of 
abortion. But, have any of them known a murder victim? Someone who had a full 
life and a circle of friends and family, those that loved them, who would never 
see them again? Hard core memories of this person remain, their smile, their 
belongings, the many activities shared, their pictures in the high school 
yearbook. I lost two friends that way in high school, both young women, one was 
hitchhiking, and the other's car broke down.
 

 And does anyone think about the actual mindset of a murderer? Aside from 
killings done in the heat of the moment, murderers are violent thugs and 
predators who deliberately enjoy inflicting pain on others - As evil as it 
gets. 
 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 About 53 million abortions since Row v Wade.About 300,000 last year. Hitler 
murdered 6 million innocent lives alone in a 5-6 yer period. Stalin murdered 
about 20 million, Mao about fifty million. We've got them beat!

 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell'
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I guess it depends on your definition of *judge*. Do I recognize poor 
choices?Is it  from poor up bringing or low intelligence.-or is it something 
else. Does that person learn from their mistakes or do they keep repeating the 
same mistake over and over. Do they ever figure out that they are making 
mistakes and , poor choices. Do they feel any responsibility for their choices? 
Do they even care? Do they feel entitled to make mistakes without consequences? 
Some people learn things the easy way, others the hard way.  How much empathy, 
compassion and understanding is expected of me? For how long and to what 
degree? Are they taking advantage of my good will? If it's their nature to 
learn things the hard way, is my help actually retarding their learning 
process? Some people are real victims of circumstances through no fault of 
their own. They didn't make poor choices  but shit happened. Maybe their 
husband died or just left them or became totally disabled. Aren't  they more 
deserving of my empathy and compassion than 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Actually I thought it more an indictment of Obama's supporters. It was a person 
on his conference call that made the suggestion, whether they were serious or 
not, but I'm inclined to think they were. I got the impression the WH rolled 
their eyes at the suggestion.< As for Obamacare, more affordable for who? For 
those who could not get it before. But everyone else is paying for their 
subsidies, making their premiums raise as much as 50% or more and get less bang 
for their buck or receive benefits they never needed or wanted. Of course the 
insurance companies like it, they have mandatory customers . I'm not sure at 
this point that it's more profitable for them but at least they can make up for 
any loss by increasing their volume. Increasing jobs is also debatable. Some 
jobs will be created in the medical field to take up the increased volume. More 
jobs will be lots or not created by the restrictions the government has made on 
businesses. Hours will be cut at many jobs to avoid the full time category, 
which will save a company from having to pay for insurance.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
   
    Not at all - I don't think you are a racist either. But this is just really 
dirty, even for politics, and as I said feels a little racist to me, for the 
reasons I mentioned.  It also has nothing to do with his policies, just a 
personal attack.
I do find it ironic that many Republicans have vowed to shut down "Obamacare", 
which in addition to closing many loopholes, and making healthcare more 
affordable, has been a huge boon for the healthcare industry, boosting profits, 
and creating jobs. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
Right, if you don't agree with the President, you have to be a racist! If you 
criticize the President, you have to be a racist. If you resist his policies, 
you have to be a racist.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 Agreed - It always feels a little racist to me also, this whole scaredy-cat 
routine over Barack Obama's patriotism and place of birth. There is an ugliness 
to raising this as an issue, that hasn't been applied to other recent 
Presidents. Clearly a smear campaign to undermine his legitimacy. Sometimes I 
wonder who the far right are working for, since some appear completely opposed 
to our current way of life in this country.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm afraid not, Mike. Both your posts on this were wildly misleading. 

The very notion of Obama changing Thanksgiving Day to Immigrants Day is 
preposterous, but it fits smoothly into the anti-Obama nonsense that the far 
right indulges in all the time: Obama is not an American, therefore he does not 
revere Thanksgiving like all good Americans do, and he wants to change it to 
Immigrants day because he is sympathetic to the flood of illegals that are 
pouring in and ruining this once-great country of ours, and is of course an 
immigrant himself (and an illegal one, too). 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You might re-read my original post. Even Snopes said someone involved in a 
conference call made the suggestion. Snopes validated my original post.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 You should really check your sources before passing on nonsense like that. 
Read this from Snopes.

Immigrant Song
|  |
|  | |  | Immigrant Song Rumor: President Obama plans to issue an 
executive order changing the name of Thanksgiving to |  |
| View on www.snopes.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!

  From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Right, if you don't agree with the President, you have to be a racist! If you 
criticize the President, you have to be a racist. If you resist his policies, 
you have to be a racist.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
   
    Agreed - It always feels a little racist to me also, this whole scaredy-cat 
routine over Barack Obama's patriotism and place of birth. There is an ugliness 
to raising this as an issue, that hasn't been applied to other recent 
Presidents. Clearly a smear campaign to undermine his legitimacy. Sometimes I 
wonder who the far right are working for, since some appear completely opposed 
to our current way of life in this country.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm afraid not, Mike. Both your posts on this were wildly misleading. 

The very notion of Obama changing Thanksgiving Day to Immigrants Day is 
preposterous, but it fits smoothly into the anti-Obama nonsense that the far 
right indulges in all the time: Obama is not an American, therefore he does not 
revere Thanksgiving like all good Americans do, and he wants to change it to 
Immigrants day because he is sympathetic to the flood of illegals that are 
pouring in and ruining this once-great country of ours, and is of course an 
immigrant himself (and an illegal one, too). 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You might re-read my original post. Even Snopes said someone involved in a 
conference call made the suggestion. Snopes validated my original post.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 You should really check your sources before passing on nonsense like that. 
Read this from Snopes.

Immigrant Song
|  |
|  | |  | Immigrant Song Rumor: President Obama plans to issue an 
executive order changing the name of Thanksgiving to |  |
| View on www.snopes.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!

  From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 Neither golf day or fund raise day!
 The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday



-Original Message-
From: ultrarishi 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"



I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

Don't think D Day is a National Holiday







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

If you read my original post, then the last paragraph of the snope' s article, 
there is no contradiction. I agree with you, the very idea would be 
preposterous, I even stated that I was unsure about the truth of it. But 
*preposterous*  would be par for the course for his administration. You are the 
one that brings up "Obama is not American, yada yada yada." Even Anne thought 
it was a great idea. LOL!
  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
   
    I'm afraid not, Mike. Both your posts on this were wildly misleading. 

The very notion of Obama changing Thanksgiving Day to Immigrants Day is 
preposterous, but it fits smoothly into the anti-Obama nonsense that the far 
right indulges in all the time: Obama is not an American, therefore he does not 
revere Thanksgiving like all good Americans do, and he wants to change it to 
Immigrants day because he is sympathetic to the flood of illegals that are 
pouring in and ruining this once-great country of ours, and is of course an 
immigrant himself (and an illegal one, too). 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You might re-read my original post. Even Snopes said someone involved in a 
conference call made the suggestion. Snopes validated my original post.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 You should really check your sources before passing on nonsense like that. 
Read this from Snopes.

Immigrant Song
|  |
|  | |  | Immigrant Song Rumor: President Obama plans to issue an 
executive order changing the name of Thanksgiving to |  |
| View on www.snopes.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!

  From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 Neither golf day or fund raise day!
 The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday



-Original Message-
From: ultrarishi 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"



I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

Don't think D Day is a National Holiday







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[feste37]

I heard a rumor that Obama is going to change the July 4th holiday to United 
Nations Day, because we need to move beyond our narrow patriotism and embrace 
all of humanity. The nerve of it! What will he think of next? Oh, wait, now I'm 
reading that he proposes to change by Executive Order Veterans Day into 
Apologies Day, where we will all have to apologize for starting so many wars. 
Obama obviously hates America and will stop at nothing to destroy our heritage. 
It's a huge scandal. Send him home to Kenya!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If you read my original post, then the last paragraph of the snope' s article, 
there is no contradiction. I agree with you, the very idea would be 
preposterous, I even stated that I was unsure about the truth of it. But 
*preposterous*  would be par for the course for his administration. You are the 
one that brings up "Obama is not American, yada yada yada." Even Anne thought 
it was a great idea. LOL!

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   I'm afraid not, Mike. Both your posts on this were wildly misleading. 

The very notion of Obama changing Thanksgiving Day to Immigrants Day is 
preposterous, but it fits smoothly into the anti-Obama nonsense that the far 
right indulges in all the time: Obama is not an American, therefore he does not 
revere Thanksgiving like all good Americans do, and he wants to change it to 
Immigrants day because he is sympathetic to the flood of illegals that are 
pouring in and ruining this once-great country of ours, and is of course an 
immigrant himself (and an illegal one, too). 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You might re-read my original post. Even Snopes said someone involved in a 
conference call made the suggestion. Snopes validated my original post.
 

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   You should really check your sources before passing on nonsense like that. 
Read this from Snopes.

Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp 
Rumor: President Obama plans to issue an executive order changing the name of 
Thanksgiving to


 
 View on www.snopes.com 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!
 

 From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Neither golf day or fund raise day!
  The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday
 

 


 -Original Message-
 From: ultrarishi 
 To: FairfieldLife 
 Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 

 I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans 
Day. 

 Don't think D Day is a National Holiday 
 
 





 


 












 













 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Not at all - I don't think you are a racist either. But this is just really 
dirty, even for politics, and as I said feels a little racist to me, for the 
reasons I mentioned.  It also has nothing to do with his policies, just a 
personal attack. 

 I do find it ironic that many Republicans have vowed to shut down "Obamacare", 
which in addition to closing many loopholes, and making healthcare more 
affordable, has been a huge boon for the healthcare industry, boosting profits, 
and creating jobs. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 Right, if you don't agree with the President, you have to be a racist! If you 
criticize the President, you have to be a racist. If you resist his policies, 
you have to be a racist.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Agreed - It always feels a little racist to me also, this whole scaredy-cat 
routine over Barack Obama's patriotism and place of birth. There is an ugliness 
to raising this as an issue, that hasn't been applied to other recent 
Presidents. Clearly a smear campaign to undermine his legitimacy. Sometimes I 
wonder who the far right are working for, since some appear completely opposed 
to our current way of life in this country.
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm afraid not, Mike. Both your posts on this were wildly misleading. 

The very notion of Obama changing Thanksgiving Day to Immigrants Day is 
preposterous, but it fits smoothly into the anti-Obama nonsense that the far 
right indulges in all the time: Obama is not an American, therefore he does not 
revere Thanksgiving like all good Americans do, and he wants to change it to 
Immigrants day because he is sympathetic to the flood of illegals that are 
pouring in and ruining this once-great country of ours, and is of course an 
immigrant himself (and an illegal one, too). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You might re-read my original post. Even Snopes said someone involved in a 
conference call made the suggestion. Snopes validated my original post.
 

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   You should really check your sources before passing on nonsense like that. 
Read this from Snopes.

Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp 
Rumor: President Obama plans to issue an executive order changing the name of 
Thanksgiving to


 
 View on www.snopes.com 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!
 

 From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Neither golf day or fund raise day!
  The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday
 

 


 -Original Message-
 From: ultrarishi 
 To: FairfieldLife 
 Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 

 I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans 
Day. 

 Don't think D Day is a National Holiday 
 
 





 


 












 













 
















 


 

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: WHY did the chicken cross the road? Answered by many well-known folks in their inimitable style

[William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]]

Another bit of humor as the one Re: Immigration Day! 



-Original Message-
From: Logan McK. Cheek III 
To: William Leed 
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 6:41 pm
Subject: Fwd: WHY did the chicken cross the road? Answered by many well-known 
folks in their inimitable style


 
Updated oldie, now better. 
  
-- Forwarded message --  
  
  
  
   
WHY DID TH CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD?as answered by many well-known 
people   
   

 
  
   

 
  
  
   
   

 
  
   

 
   

 
  
   

 
  
   

 
  
   
   

 DONALD TRUMP:All Mexican chickens who wish 
to cross this road must submit to a complete background check, and full body 
search.  

   
   

 
  
   

   

 BARACK OBAMA:  
  Let me be perfectly clear, if the chickens like their eggs they can 
keep their eggs.  No chicken will be required to cross the road to surrender 
her eggs.  Period.  

   

 JOHN McCain:   
 My friends, the chicken crossed the road because he recognized the 
need to engage in cooperation and dialogue with all the chickens on the other 
side of the road. 

   

 HILLARY CLINTON:   
 What difference at this point does it make why the chicken crossed 
the road. 

   

 DICK CHENEY:   
 Where's my gun? 

   

 COLIN POWELL:  
  Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see the satellite 
image of the chicken crossing the road. 

   

 BILL CLINTON:  
  I did not cross the road with that chicken.   
  

   

 AL GORE:   
 I invented the chicken. 

   

 JOHN KERRY:
Although I voted to let the chicken cross the road, I am now against 
it!  It was the wrong road to cross, and I was misled about the chicken's 
intentions.  I am not for it now, and will remain against it.   
  

   

 AL SHARPTON:   
 Why are all the chickens white? 

 DR. PHIL:   

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: WHY did the chicken cross the road? Answered by many well-known folks in their inimitable style

[William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]]

-Original Message-
From: Louise 
To: Logan McK. Cheek III 
Cc: William Leed 
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 11:27 pm
Subject: Re: WHY did the chicken cross the road? Answered by many well-known 
folks in their inimitable style


 
   
 
  
Descartes: It crosses , therefore it is.   
  
   
  
  
Bill Clinton'sPhilosophical query to   
  
Descartes; It depends on what your meaning of "is" is.  
  
   
  
  
Post modernist challenge to Descartes and Clinton ; you have to apply a 
hermeneutics of suspicion to discern why the chicken crossed the road.   
  
   
  
  
See more in Marxist Catholic lit critic Terry Eagleton's send-off of 
post\modernism "TheGod Debate."
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
Your LIKE box checked by me,  
  
   
  
  
Louise Mullikin Kaegi  
  
Mom Sept 21 20  
  
   
  
  
Sent from my iPhone  
  
   
On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Logan McK. Cheek III <   lm...@cornell.edu> wrote: 
  
   
  
  
   

Updated oldie, now better.
 
-- Forwarded message -- 
 
 
 
  
   WHY DID TH CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD?   as answered by many 
well-known people  
  
   

 
  
   


 
  
  
   

 
  
   

  
   

 
  
   

 
  
   

 
  
  
   
DONALD TRUMP:All Mexican chickens who 
wish to cross this road must submit to a complete background check, and full 
body search. 
   
  
  
   

 
  
   

 
   
BARACK OBAMA:   
Let me be perfectly clear, if the chickens like their eggs they 
can keep their eggs.  No chicken will be required to cross the road to 
surrender her eggs.  Period. 
   

 
   
JOHN McCain:
   My friends, the chicken crossed the road because he recognized 
the need to engage in cooperation and dialogue with all the chickens on the 
other side of the road.
   

 
   
HILLARY CLINTON:
   What difference at this point does it make why the chicken 
crossed the road.
   

 
   
DICK CHENEY:
   Where's my gun?
   

 
   
COLIN POWELL:   
Now to the left of the screen, you can clearly see the 
satellite image of the chicken crossing the road.   
 
   

 
   
BILL CLINTON:   
I did not cross the road with that chicken. 
   
   

 
   
AL GORE: 

[FairfieldLife] Good One

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/952190864873968/ 
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/952190864873968/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I heard a rumor that Obama is going to change the July 4th holiday to United 
Nations Day, because we need to move beyond our narrow patriotism and embrace 
all of humanity. The nerve of it! What will he think of next? Oh, wait, now I'm 
reading that he proposes to change by Executive Order Veterans Day into 
Apologies Day, where we will all have to apologize for starting so many wars. 
Obama obviously hates America and will stop at nothing to destroy our heritage. 
It's a huge scandal. Send him home to Kenya!
 

 HAHA, I like the July 4th idea, seeing as I am this floating, non-grounded 
woman of all Nations who belongs to all and none of them simultaneously. Oh 
give me a home... LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If you read my original post, then the last paragraph of the snope' s article, 
there is no contradiction. I agree with you, the very idea would be 
preposterous, I even stated that I was unsure about the truth of it. But 
*preposterous*  would be par for the course for his administration. You are the 
one that brings up "Obama is not American, yada yada yada." Even Anne thought 
it was a great idea. LOL!

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   I'm afraid not, Mike. Both your posts on this were wildly misleading. 

The very notion of Obama changing Thanksgiving Day to Immigrants Day is 
preposterous, but it fits smoothly into the anti-Obama nonsense that the far 
right indulges in all the time: Obama is not an American, therefore he does not 
revere Thanksgiving like all good Americans do, and he wants to change it to 
Immigrants day because he is sympathetic to the flood of illegals that are 
pouring in and ruining this once-great country of ours, and is of course an 
immigrant himself (and an illegal one, too). 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You might re-read my original post. Even Snopes said someone involved in a 
conference call made the suggestion. Snopes validated my original post.
 

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 8:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   You should really check your sources before passing on nonsense like that. 
Read this from Snopes.

Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 
 Immigrant Song http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp 
Rumor: President Obama plans to issue an executive order changing the name of 
Thanksgiving to


 
 View on www.snopes.com 
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/thanksgiving.asp
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!
 

 From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Neither golf day or fund raise day!
  The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday
 

 


 -Original Message-
 From: ultrarishi 
 To: FairfieldLife 
 Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 

 I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans 
Day. 

 Don't think D Day is a National Holiday 
 
 





 


 












 













 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Merriam-Webster defines *Immigrant* as someone who comes to another country to 
set up residency. Massachusetts was not a country or state at the time of the 
first Thanksgiving. At some point it became a recognized colony of the crown. 
There was no immigration. No permission to enter into the area around Plymouth 
Rock and settle was needed. No laws were violated. There was no government. 
Perhaps from an indigenous point of view, there should have been! Look at what 
they lost, EVERYTHING!< As for the Immigrant's Day thing, it wasn't a rumor. 
They admit to it. Someone on that conference call, by invitation only and 99 
chances out of a hundred were or was, an Obama supporter, made the suggestion, 
preposterous as it was. Anne, are you an Obama supporter? You didn't think it 
Preposterous. Did you?
 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
But the Pilgrims were immigrants and apparently helped and welcomed by the 
indigenous peoples at the time who aided them in all sorts of ways and so 90 
Natives and 53 Pilgrims spent 3 days celebrating the first harvest. Sounds like 
these immigrants were treated better than some other countries as treating the 
Syrians and why not call "Thanksgiving" "Immigrants Day"? I think, although 
it's a bogus rumor, that would be very apropos! LOL

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!

  From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 Neither golf day or fund raise day!
 The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday



-Original Message-
From: ultrarishi 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"



I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

Don't think D Day is a National Holiday





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Merriam-Webster defines *Immigrant* as someone who comes to another country to 
set up residency. Massachusetts was not a country or state at the time of the 
first Thanksgiving. At some point it became a recognized colony of the crown. 
There was no immigration. 
 

 Mike, you crack me up. You don't need a dictionary to define "immigrant". Here 
are some synonyms: 
 synonyms: newcomer 
https://www.google.ca/search?espv=2=1449=914=define+newcomer=X=0CB0Q_SowAGoVChMIqv7ZyvWKyAIVkJaICh3DlAuK,
 settler 
https://www.google.ca/search?espv=2=1449=914=define+settler=X=0CB4Q_SowAGoVChMIqv7ZyvWKyAIVkJaICh3DlAuK,
 migrant 
https://www.google.ca/search?espv=2=1449=914=define+migrant=X=0CB8Q_SowAGoVChMIqv7ZyvWKyAIVkJaICh3DlAuK,
 emigrant 
https://www.google.ca/search?espv=2=1449=914=define+emigrant=X=0CCAQ_SowAGoVChMIqv7ZyvWKyAIVkJaICh3DlAuK;
 

The Pilgrims were coming to a land, which was neither their birth place or 
their ancestor's home with the intention of staying there and creating a life. 
I have no value judgement here, immigrants are not "bad" people. (laughs) But, 
these settlers were at least migrants entering a foreign land - how's that?
 
 No permission to enter into the area around Plymouth Rock and settle was 
needed. No laws were violated. There was no government. Perhaps from an 
indigenous point of view, there should have been! Look at what they lost, 
EVERYTHING!< As for the Immigrant's Day thing, it wasn't a rumor. They admit to 
it. Someone on that conference call, by invitation only and 99 chances out of a 
hundred were or was, an Obama supporter, made the suggestion, preposterous as 
it was. Anne, are you an Obama supporter? You didn't think it Preposterous. Did 
you?

 

 I am an Obama supporter, for sure. I think it was a jolly idea, changing the 
name "Thanksgiving" to "Immigrants Day" (especially since I believe Pilgrims 
were immigrants) but I didn't actually believe Obama had come up with that 
idea. I also like Feste's fatuous idea of changing July 4 to "United Nations 
Day". But I'm a freak here: I have no allegiance to any country and have a 
complete lack of National pride or patriotism.
 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But them the Pilgrims were not celebrating immigration on their first 
Thanksgiving. Just one more executive action to be rescinded January 29th 2017. 
 

 But the Pilgrims were immigrants and apparently helped and welcomed by the 
indigenous peoples at the time who aided them in all sorts of ways and so 90 
Natives and 53 Pilgrims spent 3 days celebrating the first harvest. Sounds like 
these immigrants were treated better than some other countries as treating the 
Syrians and why not call "Thanksgiving" "Immigrants Day"? I think, although 
it's a bogus rumor, that would be very apropos! LOL
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not sure about the truth of this but I read somewhere that the Presidents 
supporters are trying to get him to change Thanksgiving to Immigrants day.

Well that's perfect then considering all the pilgrims were immigrants. I like 
it!
 

 From: "William Leed WLeed3@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 
   Neither golf day or fund raise day!
  The FOURTH  of JULY is ONE, &  our 1st & for some time the only national 
holiday
 

 


 -Original Message-
 From: ultrarishi 
 To: FairfieldLife 
 Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Interesting fact "D-Day"
 
 

 I think the observances that are appropriate are Memorial Day and Veterans 
Day. 

 Don't think D Day is a National Holiday