[FairfieldLife] Re: Passing the TM Movement on to Next Generations X, Y, & Z

2015-11-23 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 TM: The Long Attrition,
 Paraphrasing a BBC article:
 "Now, how do we stop it in the long term? Well, we've got to provide young 
people the possibility for some other mode of life that's hopeful, adventurous, 
glorious and provides significance. Again, we don't provide much of anything 
except belief in things like shopping malls. We don't even listen to young 
people. There are no programs that I know of that really allow the ideas of 
youth to bubble up and cultivate an alternative that comes from them.
 ..But ..the people coming to us aren't witless, as your propaganda makes it. 
They aren't brainwashed in any sense. They're compassionate. They're looking. 
..for what has a powerful and positive message, even though what's recorded 
here is mostly the negative message. We've got to -.. we have got to come up 
with a positive message within our idiom that can attract these young people 
and track them ..  -

 

 ..look at each individual and sometimes spend hundreds, even thousands of 
hours drawing out their personal aspirations and trying to link it to a larger 
story of how the world should be and what they can do to contribute to it. 
 

 It is meaningful to people to be part of a movement that feels significant. 
How do you create a counter-narrative to create alternative meaning for people 
who feel disaffected by mainstream TM society?
 

 

 
 

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Reading this analysis below of the millennials compared to us the boomers, 
thus far in TM the transition has been little and spotted at best. The profile 
of our meetings are getting to be quite geriatric. At the top they evidently 
are not to share their podium yet with millennials at our large community 
meetings. There was a big meeting on campus recently with the top leadership 
and other than a couple token young persons sitting with a parent on stage it 
was an adult only presentation.  
 

 The 30 or so (conservative) people who currently own and run the movement it 
seems are most anxious to set in stone processes, procedures and guidelines as 
they see were laid down braced for a thousand years rule, and not just let 
anyone come in and change anything before they leave the stage. 
 The attrition in most all the elements of TM has been huge and long with 
basically the same people in charge for 40 years. It is down to hundreds who 
are inside, not the thousands that once were. Back in 2009 in response to a 
student uprising in the university over the student experience at the 
university a survey by interview was hired. When the results were presented to 
the university president his response was that he 'was going to hold on to the 
university until his last dying breath'. In character it is a race against 
time.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FW: Millennials and selling to them..

 

 The difference between Boomers and Millennials  - individualistic vs. 
collective (ME vs WE)
  
 Also, that with Millennials slower and lower forming of families and less need 
to show off with flashy stuff will come a slower economic growth – no need for 
flashy house, car, clothing, jewelry.  But they do value experiences – 
restaurants, travel, bars,
  
 “We” Versus “Me” Generation By Harry S. Dent Jr., Senior Editor, Economy & 
Markets I have three step kids. Two are generation X. The youngest is 
generation Y. 

Just looking at them, you can tell a clear difference in their personalities 
and aspirations.

My older step kids are more individualistic. The younger one is more oriented 
to the group and collective interests. 

It’s a fundamental difference that speaks by-and-large to both generations.

And it’s a difference we need to understand given the troublesome economic 
climate we face. 

You know that one of the major points of my research is that the millennial 
generation will neither fully replace nor surpass the boomers the way every 
single generation in history has before (not to mention the millennials are 
much smaller in most developed countries).

This is something most can’t wrap their head around, because the millennial 
generation is indeed larger than the boomers. 

But they’re larger only in terms of total numbers. They started out with higher 
birth rates and their birth surge lasted longer. However, they never have peaks 
in births, adjusted for immigration, quite as high as the baby boom. 

In other words, this generation will never take us to new heights in stocks, in 
home buying or car buying or most sectors of our economy!

And that is more critical for their future economic impact.
 The chart below comes from the seminal book Generations by William Strauss and 
Neil Howe.

It shows how there are four broad personality types that emerge in two birth 
waves every 80 years or so.

Here’s another point about generations most people 

[FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread salyavin808


 Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
 

 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/

 
 
 https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ 
 
 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ Forgotten 
Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three provinces, 
U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ...
 
 
 
 View on luminous-landscape.com 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well, Mike, I was teasing you.  My sense of humor doesn't always translate 
well to paper; you don't know me well.  What I said was"Of course, it isn't 
absolute all the time—that doesn't translate to "anyone can claim 
anything.and get in"(what you said).
 

 You have to watch these guys, Emily. Suddenly the statement, "I am eating a 
cherry lollipop" becomes "She insists on ordering cherry pie every time she 
eats out."
 

 8 Facts About the U.S. Program to Resettle Syrian Refugees 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 
 
 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 
 8 Facts About the U.S. Program to Resettle Syrian... 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 Among them, refugees have to pay back the money for the plane ticket that 
brings them to the U.S.


 
 View on www.usnews.com 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
  The Chechen brothers had been in the country for 10 years; the older one who 
was the instigator and who basically "self-radicalized" here in the U.S., was 
perhaps not much different from the other young men in the U.S. who we've seen 
make the news who seem to think that mass murder is an acceptable option to 
expressing their hopelessness about life, or who suffer from mental illness 
that they can't get treated properly, or etc., etc.  
 

 Not the same thing at all
 




 




























[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
 

 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/

 
 
 https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 
 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ Forgotten 
Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three provinces, 
U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ...


 
 View on luminous-landscape.com 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 

 Fascinating country, physically beautiful people, gorgeous clothing. This is 
someplace I need to visit before I die.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What should Yahoo git rid of?

2015-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 11/23/2015 01:31 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 11/22/2015 11:26 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

The struggling Internet giant is trying to decide which of its
services
it should keep or dump. Yahoo Real Estate, or maybe even Yahoo News,
could be on the chopping block, analysts say.

http://www.cnet.com/news/what-should-yahoo-get-rid-of/

Well, let's see Yahoo News can get my location correct when it
comes to
weather but not the local news. Where do they get their
programmers anyway?

I'm surprised they bother with the yahoo groups. Are they used
much? Apart from us obviously...


Taking groups away would lead to bad PR as if Yahoo doesn't have
enough of that already.

And I wouldn't have anything to do during the adverts on TV!



Hulu was the only service with ads on it but they started offering a 
no-ads option a couple months back for $4 a month.  That's all our ad 
eyes are worth.  But it also saves time for the price of a latte at 
Starbucks. :-D


When did Yahoo buy Flickr, or did they always own it? I've only
just noticed as I just tried to upload some photo's to a friends
group.



They've had it for some time.  I've used it for some of my videos.







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]

 Some Buddhist meditators are clearly serene from their meditation practices. 
It does seem unfair to the point of appearing dishonest to put down all other 
forms of meditation. 
  
 In the ‘80s, after leaving the British TM HQ, being open-minded I also tried 
chanting for years on the beads (Krsna Consciousness stuff – def OTP) and had 
to stop TM (sidhi) when I went to live in the temple (these people get up at 
4am for 4 hours in the temple before brekkie).
  
 But, after attempting ‘life’ without any form of meditation or spiritual 
practice for a good numbers of years, I found myself in a deep ugly despairing 
depression, the only thing that brought me out of it was starting TM (sidhi) 
again after 19 years, and because of this I would never stop it nor wish to 
change as I get ridiculously happy sometimes – and depression ain’t a place I 
ever want to visit again. So, I am eternally indebted to M, GD et al for 
droping this in my pathway regardless of my ‘world view’ being different to 
theirs.
  
 I see some TM teachers got fed up with the Movement’s direction and developed 
NSR (natural stress relief) and this seems to be effective – nothing but a 
technique, no philosophy. I love this idea and wish it all the best. I also am 
grateful that TM will be around due to both the Movement and David Lynch type 
offshoots (if that’s the right word). It does seem that Truth gets fragmented 
into lesser incomplete truths in order to provide a need to the needy.
  
 When I cooked in the TM movement, nobody was into Vedic astrology, 
architecture or power weapons. Now I read it’s different.
  
 I do not believe in astrology, seems foolish to map out a person’s future when 
they have freewill – identical twins can have such different lives.
  
 I don’t accept that a man can ‘never be right’ if he does not live in 
Sthapatya Vedic buildings. Too much emphasis is put on the material when it was 
always about the kingdom of heaven being within – it was always about 
meditation! However, I cannot knock anyone who leads a wonderful life of peace 
with all the massages and scents etc. It’s just that this is not the ultimate 
truth in my opinion for which I have good reasons.
  
 And as for what I’ve been reading about people getting freaked out mentally by 
truly believing in Vedic weapons (i.e. battle of Kurukshetra etc.), I think 
they have just been fundamentally indoctrinated - they should be more wary of 
the invisible bogeymen snooping around their sofa.
  
 That indoctrination lark sure manages to separate people from the Self...
  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M wasn't very fond of any other meditation opther than TM. However, I did hear 
him say that he liked one Buddhist technique called *walking meditation*. I'm 
not sure of the technique but it involved the attention shifting from one foot 
to the next as one walked. He said that it developed witnessing.

 

 I'm sure that if he'd tried some other techniques he might have had a bit more 
respect for what they can achieve. The trouble is that he had something to sell 
and you don't sell much if you encourage people to look elsewhere at the same 
time!
 

 He was also unfair (or just ignorant) when he spoke about other techniques, 
doing them down all the time. There are plenty of ways to get there. Or here as 
the case may be
 

 
  













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh absolutely! I think he watched a lot of TV commercials when he came to the 
US. Marketing! *Can't be a man cause he doesn't smoke the same cigarette as me, 
I can't get no... satisfaction!*
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 3:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

M wasn't very fond of any other meditation opther than TM. However, I did hear 
him say that he liked one Buddhist technique called *walking meditation*. I'm 
not sure of the technique but it involved the attention shifting from one foot 
to the next as one walked. He said that it developed witnessing.

I'm sure that if he'd tried some other techniques he might have had a bit more 
respect for what they can achieve. The trouble is that he had something to sell 
and you don't sell much if you encourage people to look elsewhere at the same 
time!
He was also unfair (or just ignorant) when he spoke about other techniques, 
doing them down all the time. There are plenty of ways to get there. Or here as 
the case may be
  From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:00 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..
 
 

A Buddhist Rinpoche is talking tonight on campus.  8pm at Argiro Student Center
>From way back in that first Scientific American paper published about the 
>physiological effect of meditating, it has long been a cultural position in TM 
>that buddhist meditation is no good.  Could even be harmful.  The presentation 
>of the argument starts in the introductory lectures to TM.   
But, the scientific and secular aspect of transcending meditation as it is 
presented by some could very well appeal to the more official modern mind in 
mainland China as opposed to religious Buddhist meditations. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape

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[FairfieldLife] Ideal President for the USA

2015-11-23 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We have already discussed that the US national chart will be running the major 
period of Rahu during the November 2016 election.This period will be a 
tumultuous one for Americans.  Obviously, we have to deal with many challenges, 
including the persistent threats from international terrorists, the economy, 
and the multi-trillion dollar debt of the government.  As such, the American 
people needs to elect a president who is most capable to tackle these potential 
problems.
 

 The next president should have a strong ability to deal with the other leaders 
in the world to eradicate ISIS and Al Qaeda, terrorists organizations capable 
of destroying civilizations.  He or she must be able to lead the nation to make 
innovative solutions to new problems in the country.  The American economy has 
enough resiliency to withstand any economic challenges from the other countries 
in the world.  There is no need to resort to isolationism and fear of migrants 
of Mexico or refugees from the Middle East.
 

 The next president will have to shepherd the nation in reducing its deficit 
and resulting national debt. Obviously, this task can't be done in one term of 
the presidency.  The costs of these debts are expensive. But they can be paid 
by potential gains in productivity of the American industries and employment 
growth for the people in the US.  The next president should have the vision of 
maintaining the noble principles of the American Constitution without resorting 
to regressive policies that deny happiness and inalienable human rights to its 
people and future citizens.


[FairfieldLife] Strangely Enough

2015-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 



[FairfieldLife] Church of Scientology Moscow branch 'dissolved' by court

2015-11-23 Thread eustace10679
Church of Scientology Moscow branch 'dissolved' by court - BBC News 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34906785 
 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34906785 A Russian court rules the 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread srijau
this is piling misconception onto wrong information false rumors, go back to 
what Maharishi is published saying and you will understand,  btw he never had 
this idea that the Buddhist walking technique was a good idea. just the 
opposite he said it was a misconception that created a technique out of reports 
of what the beggiinng of cosmic consciousness  was like. take with huge pile of 
salt what people claim here. .listen to the tapes of Maharishi himself or read 
his books or listen to his sucessors that he designated himself

[FairfieldLife] Marianne Williamson's Fairfield Presentation on Youtube!

2015-11-23 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
Just released: the VIDEO of MARIANNE WILLIAMSON'S deeply inspirational talk on 
Consciousness, Democracy & Politics, presented in Fairfield several weeks ago.  
A great WAKE-UP CALL to unify our spiritual life and the desire for 
social...while delivering a compelling case for Bernie Sanders' presidential 
bid.  A MUST-WATCH!http://youtu.be/kB7eTmOVIg4





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread dionysiu...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 I'm only new to the list, but found that comment interesting (having done the 
reverse of most TM grads by doing years of other modalities first and coming to 
TM recently.)

I'm not sure what M means by 'witnessing', though most 'teachers' would 
probably mean developing an intermediary step conceptual 'witness'/observer 
detached from the usual self-personality. "Walking meditation" might help that 
if one brings in the concept of a 'witness'/watcher.. although 
strictly-speaking, that's not a Buddhist practice, since it does away with all 
concepts involving a 'watcher', 'self', witness etc. (ie. anatta) and 
approaches walking meditation more as an Insight/vipassana practice along with 
noting/labeling what is happening in real-time in order to see impermanence 
etc. (As you said, attention or noting the rising, moving, placing, shifting of 
each foot when walking).

It could be used as an object type concentration practice, but isn't usually 
(since walking lends itself to being aware of lots of other objects and 
happenings going on as well). I guess it could be used to develop 'the witness' 
as well if one was directing attention to a conceptual 'watcher' or 'the one 
that walks'..





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M wasn't very fond of any other meditation opther than TM. However, I did hear 
him say that he liked one Buddhist technique called *walking meditation*. I'm 
not sure of the technique but it involved the attention shifting from one foot 
to the next as one walked. He said that it developed witnessing.

 
 









[FairfieldLife] Re: Church of Scientology Moscow branch 'dissolved' by court

2015-11-23 Thread dionysiu...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Interestingly, I just saw an ad from CoS on Twitter.. with a stream of negative 
comments underneath (those 'free to comment' type social media ads probably do 
those orgs more damage than they suspect..

[FairfieldLife] Christ Mass

2015-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.freewoodpost.com/2013/12/23/christmas-is-totally-winning-the-war-on-christmas/
 
http://www.freewoodpost.com/2013/12/23/christmas-is-totally-winning-the-war-on-christmas/



[FairfieldLife] Fw: Fwd: Free talk: The Life of a Buddhist Rinpoche, Monday, Nov. 23, 8 pm, Dalby Hall.

2015-11-23 Thread Doug Hamilton dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Subject: Free talk: The Life of a Buddhist Rinpoche, Monday, Nov. 23, 8 pm, 
Dalby Hall.










   

[FairfieldLife] So

2015-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 LOL! I saw on my Facebook page that somebody had posted an Anglo - American 
guy dancing, Bollywood style, to some Punjabi folk music. He was quite good! It 
was at some outdoor festival and a number of Indians were looking on, seeming 
quite impressed. Wish I knew how to post it here.

 

 Here's one, don't know if this is the same one.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3B_iRpsfjk 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3B_iRpsfjk

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
 
 
   On 11/22/2015 04:29 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:
 > Hayam Dukham Anagatam
 I may have to set that to some Bollywood style dance music. ;-)
 


 


 











[FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

 A Buddhist Rinpoche is talking tonight on campus.  
 8pm at Argiro Student Center
 

 From way back in that first Scientific American paper published about the 
physiological effect of meditating, it has long been a cultural position in TM 
that buddhist meditation is no good.  Could even be harmful.  The presentation 
of the argument starts in the introductory lectures to TM.   
 

 But, the scientific and secular aspect of transcending meditation as it is 
presented by some could very well appeal to the more official modern mind in 
mainland China as opposed to religious Buddhist meditations. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
 

 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/

 
 
 https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 
 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ Forgotten 
Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three provinces, 
U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ...


 
 View on luminous-landscape.com 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] So

2015-11-23 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 They were sued into oblivion, laughed at and ridiculed into,obscurity.They 
were made to be socially unacceptable. An organization that once counted 
numbers in the millions, now is a mere handful that nobody pays attention to. 
Thy are irrelevant today. Peer pressure ruined them. 

 If Muslims did the same with radicle Islamist, perhaps the same effect could 
be had.

 

 It has to be a concerted effort by many, in terms of any chance of defeating 
radicalism. You have to have bombs and you have to have those that refuse to be 
intimidated and cowed by the threat of violence. You have to have those that 
stay positive and refuse to stop discriminating between who is "the enemy" and 
who is not and you have to have those that are prepared to bring out the 
weapons if necessary. The world seems to be dividing into two groups - those 
that are reacting in a way that only makes the situation worse and those who 
are attempting to stay informed and reasonable. 
 

 As far as the KKK and other neo-Nazi or extreme right wing racist groups they 
are out there, believe me. Germany and the US are pretty hardcore countries 
where these kind of haters are rampant. The racist part often goes hand and 
hand with a strong sense of patriotism and country.
 

 Here is a handy list, while we're on the subject of aberration:
 
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/20/1452457/-Time-to-pull-out-again-The-14-Points-of-Fascism?detail=facebook
 
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/20/1452457/-Time-to-pull-out-again-The-14-Points-of-Fascism?detail=facebook
 
 

 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] So
 
 
 


   
 


 

 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M wasn't very fond of any other meditation opther than TM. However, I did hear 
him say that he liked one Buddhist technique called *walking meditation*. I'm 
not sure of the technique but it involved the attention shifting from one foot 
to the next as one walked. He said that it developed witnessing.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:00 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..
   
    

A Buddhist Rinpoche is talking tonight on campus.  8pm at Argiro Student Center
>From way back in that first Scientific American paper published about the 
>physiological effect of meditating, it has long been a cultural position in TM 
>that buddhist meditation is no good.  Could even be harmful.  The presentation 
>of the argument starts in the introductory lectures to TM.   
But, the scientific and secular aspect of transcending meditation as it is 
presented by some could very well appeal to the more official modern mind in 
mainland China as opposed to religious Buddhist meditations. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape

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|  | |  | Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
Forgotten Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three 
provinces, U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ... |  |
| View on luminous-landscape.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
IfI were younger, I would love to see Tibet and Bhutan.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:08 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..
   
    
Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape
 
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||||   Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous 
...  Forgotten Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of 
three provinces, U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ... 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If I were younger, I would love to see Tibet and Bhutan.

 

 It must be an awesome place to visit. Not sure how I'd cope with the altitude 
though, or refrain from punching Chinese soldiers!
 

 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:08 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..
 
 
   
 

 Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
 

 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/

 
 
 https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 
 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ Forgotten 
Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three provinces, 
U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ...


 
 View on luminous-landscape.com 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 


 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] So

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
They were sued into oblivion, laughed at and ridiculed into,obscurity.They were 
made to be socially unacceptable. An organization that once counted numbers in 
the millions, now is a mere handful that nobody pays attention to. Thy are 
irrelevant today. Peer pressure ruined them. 
If Muslims did the same with radicle Islamist, perhaps the same effect could be 
had.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] So
   


    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
THATS IT! LOL

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

LOL! I saw on my Facebook page that somebody had posted an Anglo - American guy 
dancing, Bollywood style, to some Punjabi folk music. He was quite good! It was 
at some outdoor festival and a number of Indians were looking on, seeming quite 
impressed. Wish I knew how to post it here.

Here's one, don't know if this is the same 
one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3B_iRpsfjk

  From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
 
 On 11/22/2015 04:29 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

 > Hayam Dukham Anagatam

I may have to set that to some Bollywood style dance music. ;-)



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Same here! I went on Yatra to  Badrinath, Kadarnath. Gangotri. Never made it up 
to Kadarnath. I had been sick about a week and the altitude was too high for me 
and blood pressure too low and that was almost twenty years ago!

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

If I were younger, I would love to see Tibet and Bhutan.

It must be an awesome place to visit. Not sure how I'd cope with the altitude 
though, or refrain from punching Chinese soldiers!


  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:08 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Life in Tibet..
 
 
Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape

|  |
|  | |  | Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
Forgotten Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three 
provinces, U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ... |  |
| View on luminous-landscape.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
One commentator I heard suggested that we put the refugees that come here to 
the U.S. in refugee camps until they can be returned home.  I can say that if I 
was a refugee and fleeing the U.S. (which I'd like to do at times), I'd prefer 
to be relocated to a relatively *safe* democracy with similar freedoms.  
Secondly, with English spoken or one of the romance languages (easiest to pick 
up) as the ability to communicate is key.   

 I don't think we're *forcing* them out of their environment; they're fleeing 
their environment in search of a *safe* and "better" life—because the situation 
is intolerable.  
 

 "Radicalizing" certainly could be, in part, because of disillusionment that 
sets in, with the difficulty in leading a double life, culture-wise, perhaps 
being a factor.  Maybe a desire to feel like one's life has purpose that one 
hasn't found here; anger at feeling as if one doesn't belong.  Inability to 
achieve the "ideal."  Seems to me, given the angst I went through and answers I 
searched for, in my teens and twenties, that that age group could be more 
susceptible.  I haven't actually read a lot on the factors that play into the 
decision to radicalize and adopt a jihadist approach.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We've had a number of *refugees*/ immigrants that have come here from 
countries like Somalia that have returned to the middle- east and are accused 
of training with ISIS or other terrorist organizations organizations. The same 
is very common in Europe.Seemingly good people come and resettle and then go 
*home* and get the training and then come back. It's thought that 4-5 thousand 
have done so in Europe alone.
  I think it better to help refugees by providing aid  and keeping them in 
similar cultures. Also helps to keep them in contact with their dharma. One's 
family life , including their culture and religion are an aspect of their 
dharma. Why force them out of that environment into something they aren't 
familiar with?

 

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
 
 
   Well, Mike, I was teasing you.  My sense of humor doesn't always translate 
well to paper; you don't know me well.  What I said was"Of course, it isn't 
absolute all the time—that doesn't translate to "anyone can claim 
anything.and get in"(what you said).
 

 8 Facts About the U.S. Program to Resettle Syrian Refugees 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 
 
 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 
 8 Facts About the U.S. Program to Resettle Syrian... 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 Among them, refugees have to pay back the money for the plane ticket that 
brings them to the U.S.


 
 View on www.usnews.com 
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-facts-about-the-us-program-to-resettle-syrian-refugees
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
  The Chechen brothers had been in the country for 10 years; the older one who 
was the instigator and who basically "self-radicalized" here in the U.S., was 
perhaps not much different from the other young men in the U.S. who we've seen 
make the news who seem to think that mass murder is an acceptable option to 
expressing their hopelessness about life, or who suffer from mental illness 
that they can't get treated properly, or etc., etc.  
 

 Not the same thing at all
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Emily, do you remember Dzhokhar and Tamerian Tsarnaev?
 I've done plenty of international travel. You sound pretty naive to me. You 
actually trust the government to completely vet all of  the refugees when they 
can't. The materials that they need are not available. Records from home towns 
and other government documents in Syria, including police records have been 
destroyed in the war or are not available. You don't think documents can be 
counterfeited?
  I have no doubt that there are agencies that claim that they can vet them but 
nobody knows how well it can be done. Hayam Dukham Anagatam.

 

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
 
 
   To combat the fear that letting in refugees is tantamount to letting in 
active terrorists, here is the fact:
 

 Of the Syrian refugees admitted so far, half are children, according to 
administration officials http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/11/249613.htm. 
The group is about 50/50 men and women, and about 2 percent are single men of 
combat age.
 

 To correct the error that Obama plans to let in "a hundred thousand", here is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Five Steps to Mindfulness - Mindful 
http://www.mindful.org/five-steps-to-mindfulness/ 
 
 http://www.mindful.org/five-steps-to-mindfulness/ 
 
 Five Steps to Mindfulness - Mindful 
http://www.mindful.org/five-steps-to-mindfulness/ “Breathing in, I know that I 
am breathing in.” Mindfulness can transform your life. Meditation master Thich 
Nhat Hanh teaches five exercises to help you live ...
 
 
 
 View on www.mindful.org http://www.mindful.org/five-steps-to-mindfulness/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M wasn't very fond of any other meditation opther than TM. However, I did hear 
him say that he liked one Buddhist technique called *walking meditation*. I'm 
not sure of the technique but it involved the attention shifting from one foot 
to the next as one walked. He said that it developed witnessing.

 

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:00 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..
 
 
   

 

 A Buddhist Rinpoche is talking tonight on campus.  
 8pm at Argiro Student Center
 

 From way back in that first Scientific American paper published about the 
physiological effect of meditating, it has long been a cultural position in TM 
that buddhist meditation is no good.  Could even be harmful.  The presentation 
of the argument starts in the introductory lectures to TM.   
 

 But, the scientific and secular aspect of transcending meditation as it is 
presented by some could very well appeal to the more official modern mind in 
mainland China as opposed to religious Buddhist meditations. 
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
 

 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/

 
 
 https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 
 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ Forgotten 
Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three provinces, 
U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ...


 
 View on luminous-landscape.com 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What should Yahoo git rid of?

2015-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 11/22/2015 11:26 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The struggling Internet giant is trying to decide which of its services
it should keep or dump. Yahoo Real Estate, or maybe even Yahoo News,
could be on the chopping block, analysts say.

http://www.cnet.com/news/what-should-yahoo-get-rid-of/

Well, let's see Yahoo News can get my location correct when it comes to
weather but not the local news. Where do they get their programmers 
anyway?


I'm surprised they bother with the yahoo groups. Are they used much? 
Apart from us obviously...


Taking groups away would lead to bad PR as if Yahoo doesn't have enough 
of that already.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL! I saw on my Facebook page that somebody had posted an Anglo - American guy 
dancing, Bollywood style, to some Punjabi folk music. He was quite good! It was 
at some outdoor festival and a number of Indians were looking on, seeming quite 
impressed. Wish I knew how to post it here.

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
   
    On 11/22/2015 04:29 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
> Hayam Dukham Anagatam
I may have to set that to some Bollywood style dance music. ;-)

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord

2015-11-23 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We've had a number of *refugees*/ immigrants that have come here from countries 
like Somalia that have returned to the middle- east and are accused of training 
with ISIS or other terrorist organizations organizations. The same is very 
common in Europe.Seemingly good people come and resettle and then go *home* and 
get the training and then come back. It's thought that 4-5 thousand have done 
so in Europe alone. I think it better to help refugees by providing aid  and 
keeping them in similar cultures. Also helps to keep them in contact with their 
dharma. One's family life , including their culture and religion are an aspect 
of their dharma. Why force them out of that environment into something they 
aren't familiar with?

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 9:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
   
    Well, Mike, I was teasing you.  My sense of humor doesn't always translate 
well to paper; you don't know me well.  What I said was"Of course, it isn't 
absolute all the time—that doesn't translate to "anyone can claim 
anything.and get in"(what you said).
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     The Chechen brothers had been in the country for 10 years; the older one 
who was the instigator and who basically "self-radicalized" here in the U.S., 
was perhaps not much different from the other young men in the U.S. who we've 
seen make the news who seem to think that mass murder is an acceptable option 
to expressing their hopelessness about life, or who suffer from mental illness 
that they can't get treated properly, or etc., etc.  
Not the same thing at all    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Emily, do you remember Dzhokhar and Tamerian Tsarnaev?I've done plenty of 
international travel. You sound pretty naive to me. You actually trust the 
government to completely vet all of  the refugees when they can't. The 
materials that they need are not available. Records from home towns and other 
government documents in Syria, including police records have been destroyed in 
the war or are not available. You don't think documents can be counterfeited? I 
have no doubt that there are agencies that claim that they can vet them but 
nobody knows how well it can be done. Hayam Dukham Anagatam.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oh Lord
 
 To combat the fear that letting in refugees is tantamount to letting in active 
terrorists, here is the fact:
Of the Syrian refugees admitted so far, half are children, according to 
administration officials. The group is about 50/50 men and women, and about 2 
percent are single men of combat age.
To correct the error that Obama plans to let in "a hundred thousand", here is 
the reality:

A few politicians and pundits have claimed that the administration wants to 
bring in as many as 250,000 Syrian refugees. That number has no basis in 
fact.Some reports seems to confuse the number of Syrian refugees the United 
States will accept with the number of worldwide refugees the United States will 
accept. Secretary of State John Kerry has said the United States will accept up 
to 85,000 refugees in fiscal year 2016 — up from 70,000 this year — and around 
100,000 in fiscal year 2017. Again, this is the total number of refugees from 
all over the world.To contrast the tone of what you mean by:
"The FBI is saying it is nearly impossible to thoroughly  vet these immigrants. 
Records that they would need to do so, are just not available to them. Anyone 
can claim anything at this point and get into a host country."

The reality is that the process is quite laborious and thorough (read article 
again for details on what it involves) and takes 1 to 2 years.  Of course, it 
isn't absolute all the time—that doesn't translate to "anyone can claim 
anything.and get in".  You seem to be pretty frightened to me; 
maybe some international travel would do you good.  

The head of the National Counterterrorism Center told Congress in October that 
the intelligence in Syria is "not as rich as we would like it to be," while FBI 
Director James Comey told Congress there are "gaps" in data 
availability.Challenges and gaps, however, don’t translate into "no ability" to 
vet at all."No system is foolproof. If we really wanted a foolproof system, we 
would shut down immigration entirely," said David Martin, a University of 
Virginia professor who’s previously held posts at 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..

2015-11-23 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M wasn't very fond of any other meditation opther than TM. However, I did hear 
him say that he liked one Buddhist technique called *walking meditation*. I'm 
not sure of the technique but it involved the attention shifting from one foot 
to the next as one walked. He said that it developed witnessing.

 

 I'm sure that if he'd tried some other techniques he might have had a bit more 
respect for what they can achieve. The trouble is that he had something to sell 
and you don't sell much if you encourage people to look elsewhere at the same 
time!
 

 He was also unfair (or just ignorant) when he spoke about other techniques, 
doing them down all the time. There are plenty of ways to get there. Or here as 
the case may be
 

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:00 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Life in Tibet..
 
 
   

 

 A Buddhist Rinpoche is talking tonight on campus.  
 8pm at Argiro Student Center
 

 From way back in that first Scientific American paper published about the 
physiological effect of meditating, it has long been a cultural position in TM 
that buddhist meditation is no good.  Could even be harmful.  The presentation 
of the argument starts in the introductory lectures to TM.   
 

 But, the scientific and secular aspect of transcending meditation as it is 
presented by some could very well appeal to the more official modern mind in 
mainland China as opposed to religious Buddhist meditations. 
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Fascinating article about life on the roof of the world:
 

 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous Landscape 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/

 
 
 https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
 
 Forgotten Land, Defiant People - Tibet - Luminous ... 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/ Forgotten 
Land, Defiant People – Tibet Ancient Tibet was comprised of three provinces, 
U-Tsang, Amdo and Kham. The present day Tibetan Autonomous ...


 
 View on luminous-landscape.com 
https://luminous-landscape.com/forgotten-land-defiant-people-tibet/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What should Yahoo git rid of?

2015-11-23 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 11/22/2015 11:26 PM, salyavin808 wrote:

   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 The struggling Internet giant is trying to decide which of its services 
 it should keep or dump. Yahoo Real Estate, or maybe even Yahoo News, 
 could be on the chopping block, analysts say.
 
 http://www.cnet.com/news/what-should-yahoo-get-rid-of/ 
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-should-yahoo-get-rid-of/
 
 Well, let's see Yahoo News can get my location correct when it comes to 
 weather but not the local news. Where do they get their programmers anyway?
 

 I'm surprised they bother with the yahoo groups. Are they used much? Apart 
from us obviously...


 
 Taking groups away would lead to bad PR as if Yahoo doesn't have enough of 
that already.
 
 


 And I wouldn't have anything to do during the adverts on TV! When did Yahoo 
buy Flickr, or did they always own it? I've only just noticed as I just tried 
to upload some photo's to a friends group.