Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Fascinating.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It doesn't fit. That's what Godwin's Law is about. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If the shoe fits...
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It doesn't fit. That's what Godwin's Law is about. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If the shoe fits...
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it has 
been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not what 
we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - a 
collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!   

 Incredible!!  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or drowned it, knowing full well what she was doing?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
 

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations".
  A prophet is a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this 
case, the *nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the 
prophetic voice is saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and 
has a plan for that life, even that he knew you before he created you in the 
womb. This very verse describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When 
you kill the fetus, you kill God's work.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that 
cannot be rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of 
them.  Leave room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking 
about! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump 
of tissue. More rationalization.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
 

 Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
 

 You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.' Do you think the courts would find a mother 
guilty of murder if she took her new born child, who could not live on it's 
own, out into the desert and left it to die or drowned it, knowing full well 
what she was doing?


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


   From: "olliesedwuz@... 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW, I started this whole thread off from a position that our founding 
documents guarantee *Life* liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 
Ollie brought up the religious perspective by saying being against a woman 
having an abortion was a sin or some such nonsense.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Ha, you see, independently we have come full circle and back to 
scripture—we just interpret it differently, as we are!  
By the way, neither Judy nor I has mentioned the word "murder" in relation to 
abortion.  That's you presuming again you have the right to make that 
association. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.
 Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know what 
it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder".  

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Murder is normally considered the taking of innocent life. Life that has not 
committed a crime.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Ha, you see, independently we have come full circle and back to 
scripture—we just interpret it differently, as we are!  
By the way, neither Judy nor I has mentioned the word "murder" in relation to 
abortion.  That's you presuming again you have the right to make that 
association. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.
 Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know what 
it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That's it!


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry
   
 On 05/22/2016 03:27 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  
    There never should have been any bail outs! When one big bank or business 
fails, the smaller ones around it rise up to fill the vacuum, hopefully 
learning from the bigger one's failures. .
 I remember when the big energy company here in Houston failed, can't remember 
the name.
 
 Enron.
 
  
 It got caught screwing over customers in other states like California. 
Everyone thought it would cause an big hit on the Houston economy. Other 
companies got their business and newer companies started up with the old 
employees and the guilty parties went to jail! 
 
 It's thought that Kenneth Lay's death was a fake and he changed his identity 
and is hiding out somewhere.  People with that kind of money can pull off 
things like that.
 
 
 
 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry
  
      It is "silly season" and goes on far, far too long.  We do need to 
get the money out of politics.  Maybe the best solution is for the world to go 
bankrupt.  We shouldn't have bailed out the big banks in 2008.  Yup the economy 
would have crashed but it probably wouldn't have been tough for  anyone but the 
rich.  There are some very, very evil people in this world.
 
 On 05/22/2016 07:03 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
   
    I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this: 
  
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
   
  

 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations". A prophet is 
a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this case, the 
*nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the prophetic voice is 
saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and has a plan for that 
life, even that he knew you before he created you in the womb. This very verse 
describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When you kill the fetus, 
you kill God's work.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that 
cannot be rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of 
them.  Leave room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking 
about! 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump of 
tissue. More rationalization.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 05/22/2016 03:27 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
There never should have been any bail outs! When one big bank or 
business fails, the smaller ones around it rise up to fill the vacuum, 
hopefully learning from the bigger one's failures. .
I remember when the big energy company here in Houston failed, can't 
remember the name.

*
**Enron.

*
It got caught screwing over customers in other states like California. 
Everyone thought it would cause an big hit on the Houston economy. 
Other companies got their business and newer companies started up with 
the old employees and the guilty parties went to jail!


It's thought that Kenneth Lay's death was a fake and he changed his 
identity and is hiding out somewhere.  People with that kind of money 
can pull off things like that.






*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry

It is "silly season" and goes on far, far too long.  We do need to get 
the money out of politics.  Maybe the best solution is for the world 
to go bankrupt.  We shouldn't have bailed out the big banks in 2008.  
Yup the economy would have crashed but it probably wouldn't have been 
tough for anyone but the rich.  There are some very, very evil people 
in this world.


On 05/22/2016 07:03 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:

I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ha, you see, independently we have come full circle and back to scripture—we 
just interpret it differently, as we are!   

 By the way, neither Judy nor I has mentioned the word "murder" in relation to 
abortion.  That's you presuming again you have the right to make that 
association.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.

  Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.
 You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.

 Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know 
what it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Amen.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

There never should have been any bail outs! When one big bank or business 
fails, the smaller ones around it rise up to fill the vacuum, hopefully 
learning from the bigger one's failures. .
I remember when the big energy company here in Houston failed, can't remember 
the name. It got caught screwing over customers in other states like 
California. Everyone thought it would cause an big hit on the Houston economy. 
Other companies got their business and newer companies started up with the old 
employees and the guilty parties went to jail!

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry
   
 It is "silly season" and goes on far, far too long.  We do need to get the 
money out of politics.  Maybe the best solution is for the world to go 
bankrupt.  We shouldn't have bailed out the big banks in 2008.  Yup the economy 
would have crashed but it probably wouldn't have been tough for anyone but the 
rich.  There are some very, very evil people in this world.
 
 On 05/22/2016 07:03 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this: 
  
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
   
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before you 
were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the presumption 
that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that cannot be 
rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of them.  Leave 
room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking about! 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump 
of tissue. More rationalization.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
 

 Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
 

 You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.
 Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know 
what it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Anyone Who Cares

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

In contemporary Hindi, rakshasa is also used to refer to a "wicked person."

The "X-Files", "Supernatural" and even "Kolchak" have had episodes 
dealing with a rakshasa.


On 05/18/2016 10:34 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yes, certainly more well-rounded in personality!  I am generally 
ignorant about Hinduism.  This is entertaining and informative.


Rakshasa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 





image 


Rakshasa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 

A Rakshasa (Sanskrit: rākṣasa) is a demonic being from Hindu 
mythology. As mythology made its way into other religions, the 
rakshasa was later incorp...


View on en.wikipedia.org 

Preview by Yahoo



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The amount of time and energy Drumpf has spent extolling himself for 
his "richness" and inflating his financial truth to a point of extreme 
absurdity is certainly one of a host of reasons he can't and won't 
release his tax returns.


Notice the expression on his face?  He's peddling his "presidential" 
face now. Lol.


He is so phony through and through that it astounds me over and over 
how many people have bought into him as "anti-establishment" and "real."


The con continues.  If there is a "rakshasa" in this race, it would be 
Drumpf.


Yes and no. Drumpf isn't interesting enough to be a rakshasha. Drumpf 
is repetitive, boring and annoying. Real evil would be fascinating, 
arresting and captivating.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/just-how-rich-is-donald-trump?mbid=gnepintcid=gnepgoogle_editors_picks=true

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sorry

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

It is "silly season" and goes on far, far too long.  We do need to get 
the money out of politics.  Maybe the best solution is for the world to 
go bankrupt.  We shouldn't have bailed out the big banks in 2008.  Yup 
the economy would have crashed but it probably wouldn't have been tough 
for anyone but the rich.  There are some very, very evil people in this 
world.


On 05/22/2016 07:03 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:


http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Should be..."with repatriating or returning"
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Your question and language is ludicrous on so many levels I can't even 
respond.  Suffice it to say, however, as one of God's children, and as a fetus 
in my mother's womb, I'm pretty positive that I would have been just fine to 
repatriate back to the loving Creator instead of incarnating here on earth to 
suffer my "karma."
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, is rationalization. Rationalize murder all you want.
 Emily if you were about to be murdered, would you want someone to intervene on 
your behalf or should they say, well, maybe it's God's plan for her to be 
murdered and let your assailant carry on?

  I can't say I know God's plans for everyone, maybe not even myself. But I do 
know that  it is written in my being that murder is wrong and innocent life is 
to be protected.

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?" 
 

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

If the shoe fits...


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump of 
tissue. More rationalization.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Your question and language is ludicrous on so many levels I can't even respond. 
 Suffice it to say, however, as one of God's children, and as a fetus in my 
mother's womb, I'm pretty positive that I would have been just fine to 
repatriate back to the loving Creator instead of incarnating here on earth to 
suffer my "karma."
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, is rationalization. Rationalize murder all you want.
 Emily if you were about to be murdered, would you want someone to intervene on 
your behalf or should they say, well, maybe it's God's plan for her to be 
murdered and let your assailant carry on?

  I can't say I know God's plans for everyone, maybe not even myself. But I do 
know that  it is written in my being that murder is wrong and innocent life is 
to be protected.

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?" 
 

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you 
really think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 
 

 I know, I heard him. And I am also in the Never Trump fold and will remain so 
if it is the last thing I do (or don't do).

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

Re: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'd absolutely love to have a parrot or cockatoo but no it's just impossible 
since I have the falcons. One wrong move and it would be eaten!
 

 Totally, but I'm sure that cockatoo would be telling them 'what for' the whole 
time he was being devoured. Those birds certainly can talk!
 

 My birds don't have to talk and sometimes I think one of them is possessed! 

 
 Had a cockatiel when I was a kid. It used to whistle the Andy Griffith Show 
theme song constantly. 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I like the ones throwing a tantrum!
 

 Just crazy birds! Unbelievable their ability to mimic and they are really, 
really smart. I can see why people love these as pets, they are just brimming 
with personality. Can you imagine your raptors suddenly talking to you like 
that, Mike? You'd be sure they were possessed!
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:38 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet

 
   
 

 Cockatoo finding out he is going to the vet 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw
 
 Cockatoo finding out he is going to the vet 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw Max knows when he sees his carrier 
that it's a visit to the vet and gets pretty vocal about it. Max is saying his 
own words that only he understands for the ...


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 


 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.   

 Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
 

 You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, is rationalization. Rationalize murder all you 
want.Emily if you were about to be murdered, would you want someone to 
intervene on your behalf or should they say, well, maybe it's God's plan for 
her to be murdered and let your assailant carry on?
 I can't say I know God's plans for everyone, maybe not even myself. But I do 
know that  it is written in my being that murder is wrong and innocent life is 
to be protected.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?" 
Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is just 
that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know what 
it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Amen.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. 
Maybe the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

[feste37]

Emily is spot on on everything today. No need to add anything. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh no, he's in much worse shape as a human being.  She has convictions, for 
example.  One might not like or agree with them, but she has them.  Look, 
you've picked up using the word "disgusting"!  Way to pay homage, Mike, way to 
pay homage!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I know! He's almost as disgusting a s Hillary!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:50 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry
 
 
   Trump says a lot of things—nothing that he says holds any water because he 
says whatever he thinks will get him the most mileage at any given moment.  He 
has no values or convictions of merit—none—and he has no conscience.  
"Expedient" is all that he is.  He doesn't even take himself seriously (as RWC 
used to say about Barry) and so is able to continually spout nonsense and deny 
he says what he does and lie and lie and feel no reason to take responsibility 
for himself or his words. His supporters just project characteristics and 
positions on him that feed *their* needs and reflect their anger and he feeds 
on it and laughs at them and goads them on. The people that have tried to get 
underneath the facade to the "real" Trump (in order to make for a more 
interesting biography, for example) weren't able to.  There isn't anything to 
get to! His God is money (hence my comment that he has been bought) and he 
idolizes the rich, no matter what he says.  He is aligned with the 
"establishment" in that way and they know it.  He idolizes himself and is 
operating as a mirror for the Party—"they" don't like what "they" see and don't 
realize that in many ways "they" are looking at "themselves," reflected.   
 

 Fascinating how so many that might be considered the Republican 
"establishment" are now jumping on board.  Like Drumpf, the Republican Party 
stands for nothing of merit anymore, either.  Bankrupt in all ways that matter; 
they sold out to the money God and have been drunk on their own illusion of 
Power for years now.  Drumpf is also promising a return to "power" and 
"greatness," and is promoting an illusion backed by not a single statement of 
substance.  He will never deliver; impossible. Corrupt to the core—the 
Republican party has the perfect candidate.  He *is* the Republican 
"establishment" and he knows it and he knows that enough of "them" will whimper 
and whine and then get down on their knees and pay homage.  I'd like to see two 
contested conventions this year—its obviously time for a  review.  If those in 
the Republican Party don't oppose this nomination, the "Party" as it sells 
itself will have effectively self-destructed, and as this article mentions, we 
as a nation will be forced closer still to the dangerous edge of the worst that 
"populism" has to offer.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you 
really think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump








 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?"  

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?"  

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Amen.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


   From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.
 ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto those that call good bad and bad good.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 It is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Oh no, he's in much worse shape as a human being.  She has convictions, for 
example.  One might not like or agree with them, but she has them.  Look, 
you've picked up using the word "disgusting"!  Way to pay homage, Mike, way to 
pay homage!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I know! He's almost as disgusting a s Hillary!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:50 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry
 
 
   Trump says a lot of things—nothing that he says holds any water because he 
says whatever he thinks will get him the most mileage at any given moment.  He 
has no values or convictions of merit—none—and he has no conscience.  
"Expedient" is all that he is.  He doesn't even take himself seriously (as RWC 
used to say about Barry) and so is able to continually spout nonsense and deny 
he says what he does and lie and lie and feel no reason to take responsibility 
for himself or his words. His supporters just project characteristics and 
positions on him that feed *their* needs and reflect their anger and he feeds 
on it and laughs at them and goads them on. The people that have tried to get 
underneath the facade to the "real" Trump (in order to make for a more 
interesting biography, for example) weren't able to.  There isn't anything to 
get to! His God is money (hence my comment that he has been bought) and he 
idolizes the rich, no matter what he says.  He is aligned with the 
"establishment" in that way and they know it.  He idolizes himself and is 
operating as a mirror for the Party—"they" don't like what "they" see and don't 
realize that in many ways "they" are looking at "themselves," reflected.   
 

 Fascinating how so many that might be considered the Republican 
"establishment" are now jumping on board.  Like Drumpf, the Republican Party 
stands for nothing of merit anymore, either.  Bankrupt in all ways that matter; 
they sold out to the money God and have been drunk on their own illusion of 
Power for years now.  Drumpf is also promising a return to "power" and 
"greatness," and is promoting an illusion backed by not a single statement of 
substance.  He will never deliver; impossible. Corrupt to the core—the 
Republican party has the perfect candidate.  He *is* the Republican 
"establishment" and he knows it and he knows that enough of "them" will whimper 
and whine and then get down on their knees and pay homage.  I'd like to see two 
contested conventions this year—its obviously time for a  review.  If those in 
the Republican Party don't oppose this nomination, the "Party" as it sells 
itself will have effectively self-destructed, and as this article mentions, we 
as a nation will be forced closer still to the dangerous edge of the worst that 
"populism" has to offer.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you 
really think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump








 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


   From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I know! He's almost as disgusting a s Hillary!


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:50 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry
   
    Trump says a lot of things—nothing that he says holds any water because he 
says whatever he thinks will get him the most mileage at any given moment.  He 
has no values or convictions of merit—none—and he has no conscience.  
"Expedient" is all that he is.  He doesn't even take himself seriously (as RWC 
used to say about Barry) and so is able to continually spout nonsense and deny 
he says what he does and lie and lie and feel no reason to take responsibility 
for himself or his words. His supporters just project characteristics and 
positions on him that feed *their* needs and reflect their anger and he feeds 
on it and laughs at them and goads them on. The people that have tried to get 
underneath the facade to the "real" Trump (in order to make for a more 
interesting biography, for example) weren't able to.  There isn't anything to 
get to! His God is money (hence my comment that he has been bought) and he 
idolizes the rich, no matter what he says.  He is aligned with the 
"establishment" in that way and they know it.  He idolizes himself and is 
operating as a mirror for the Party—"they" don't like what "they" see and don't 
realize that in many ways "they" are looking at "themselves," reflected.   
Fascinating how so many that might be considered the Republican "establishment" 
are now jumping on board.  Like Drumpf, the Republican Party stands for nothing 
of merit anymore, either.  Bankrupt in all ways that matter; they sold out to 
the money God and have been drunk on their own illusion of Power for years now. 
 Drumpf is also promising a return to "power" and "greatness," and is promoting 
an illusion backed by not a single statement of substance.  He will never 
deliver; impossible. Corrupt to the core—the Republican party has the perfect 
candidate.  He *is* the Republican "establishment" and he knows it and he knows 
that enough of "them" will whimper and whine and then get down on their knees 
and pay homage.  I'd like to see two contested conventions this year—its 
obviously time for a  review.  If those in the Republican Party don't oppose 
this nomination, the "Party" as it sells itself will have effectively 
self-destructed, and as this article mentions, we as a nation will be forced 
closer still to the dangerous edge of the worst that "populism" has to offer.   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you really 
think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.
 ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto those that call good bad and bad good.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

 

 So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
 

 By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is 
sinless, and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an 
action. It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, 
needing no interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in 
this country. This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for 
maximum guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be 
murdered? Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this 
repressive thinking. More medieval thinking.
 

 It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Trump says a lot of things—nothing that he says holds any water because he says 
whatever he thinks will get him the most mileage at any given moment.  He has 
no values or convictions of merit—none—and he has no conscience.  "Expedient" 
is all that he is.  He doesn't even take himself seriously (as RWC used to say 
about Barry) and so is able to continually spout nonsense and deny he says what 
he does and lie and lie and feel no reason to take responsibility for himself 
or his words. His supporters just project characteristics and positions on him 
that feed *their* needs and reflect their anger and he feeds on it and laughs 
at them and goads them on. The people that have tried to get underneath the 
facade to the "real" Trump (in order to make for a more interesting biography, 
for example) weren't able to.  There isn't anything to get to! His God is money 
(hence my comment that he has been bought) and he idolizes the rich, no matter 
what he says.  He is aligned with the "establishment" in that way and they know 
it.  He idolizes himself and is operating as a mirror for the Party—"they" 
don't like what "they" see and don't realize that in many ways "they" are 
looking at "themselves," reflected.

 Fascinating how so many that might be considered the Republican 
"establishment" are now jumping on board.  Like Drumpf, the Republican Party 
stands for nothing of merit anymore, either.  Bankrupt in all ways that matter; 
they sold out to the money God and have been drunk on their own illusion of 
Power for years now.  Drumpf is also promising a return to "power" and 
"greatness," and is promoting an illusion backed by not a single statement of 
substance.  He will never deliver; impossible. Corrupt to the core—the 
Republican party has the perfect candidate.  He *is* the Republican 
"establishment" and he knows it and he knows that enough of "them" will whimper 
and whine and then get down on their knees and pay homage.  I'd like to see two 
contested conventions this year—its obviously time for a  review.  If those in 
the Republican Party don't oppose this nomination, the "Party" as it sells 
itself will have effectively self-destructed, and as this article mentions, we 
as a nation will be forced closer still to the dangerous edge of the worst that 
"populism" has to offer.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you 
really think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

[FairfieldLife] Chakra balancing

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Chopra has a couple of videos out on youtube. It's a guided meditation to 
balance the chakras. I've tried it a few times and find it very relaxing and  
pleasant. 
OTP but  I enjoyed it. You might also. Don't have the link here but you can 
google Chopra , chakra balancing, youtube, There are two videos.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

[feste37]

Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you really 
think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Weakend at Bernie's

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

On 05/21/2016 09:42 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

/"It must be hard for Hillary to look at all the pictures of young 
women swooning over Bernie as though he were Bieber."/

by Maureen Dowd
Weakend at Bernie’s 
 





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Weakend at Bernie’s 
 


Hillary can’t dispatch a Democrat who’s not really even a Democrat.

View on www.nytimes.com 
 



Preview by Yahoo

Hardly swooning in that way. First of all, Bieber is an overrated 
juvenile who needs a good spanking and a reminder to return 
to/discover reality while Bernie is a fully-formed, mature man 
fighting for worthwhile causes. Bieber is all fluff and nonsense while 
Bernie is making his last hurrah with gusto and passion.


She's not poking fun at all at Bernie.  She's poking fun at Hillary who 
believes she is "the anointed one" who should be president.  If anything 
Dowd is astonished at how Bernie's campaign has grown.  The Beiber 
comment was just to rub it in.


/"Everyone just laughed when Sanders, a cranky loner from Vermont with a 
nondescript Senate record, decided to challenge Queen Hillary. Clinton 
and her aides intoned — wink, wink — that it would be healthy to have a 
primary fight with Sanders and Martin O’Malley.//

//
//But Bernie became the surprise belle of his side’s revolutionary ball. 
And now he has gotten a taste of it and he likes it and he won’t let it 
go. He’s bedeviling the daylight out of Hillary."


/I can recall just a couple years back when listening to Thom Hartmann's 
regular Friday segment "Brunch with Bernie" where Thom was encouraging 
Bernie to run for President.  Yeah, we thought, that would be cool but 
we doubted he would get very far.  What a great surprise!  And he's 
drawing large crowds everywhere.  Clinton can barely fill a school 
classroom.

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Think on this Anne. I was once present when Maharishi was asked if there would 
be any karmic difference in eating yogurt if the bacteria in yogurt was of the 
animal kingdom or the plant kingdom. He looked very serious and said "yes and 
it would be worth knowing( if the bacteria was animal or plant)" Evidently he 
had never given yogurt any thought concerning the matter.
 

 While I give MMY all due respect, his word doesn't mean much in my life or my 
world. While I am happy to hear what he might have to say about yogurt, he 
doesn't appear to have much insight based on your account here.
 

  How much more value is the life of an innocent human being over that of 
yogurt bacteria?
 

 I can't answer that question, just as I can't make a value judgement about 
what "value" innocence has or what that word really even means. Does an 
"innocent" human being have more value than a non-innocent one? Is it not as 
bad to kill a non-innocent human?
 

 If you will recall the talk about the woman that had an affair with Maharishi, 
she asked him what should she do if she ever got pregnant by him and his 
response was "get married, quickly!" But not to him. I think he indicated that 
he would arrange something. But he certainly didn't advise an abortion as I 
recall. Even though he could have to save his reputation.
 

 Having an abortion might ruin his reputation more, who knows? I know nothing 
about this woman. Did she have the child? Does that child know who its father 
is? Do you think Maharishi advising having the baby but disowning it makes him 
a better person than if he had advised an abortion?
 

 Anne, you could justify Hitler's murder of the Jews as *life sustaining* for 
the future of the Third Reich by your logic!
 

 Not by my logic but, evidently, by yours. We're talking about a fetus vs 
fully-formed, functioning human beings, ie Jews. I'm not talking about the 
Third Reich, I'm talking about the mother, another fully-formed functioning 
human being. Her well-being may be at stake here with reference to her choice 
to terminate or not terminate the life of a developing fetus.
 

  Killing an innocent life is not life supporting or sustaining for anyone.
 

 That's a pretty big blanket statement, again, what constitutes "innocent", I 
have to ask again - not to mention, how could you possibly know or conceive of 
all of the ways in which killing someone (even an undeveloped person - fetus) 
might result in something warranted or necessary or good?
 

 Not the one killed because their life has been unjustly taken and not for the 
one killing because that karma will come back to haunt them and possibly at the 
worst time.
 

 Perhaps, if one were to actually believe in something called "karma".
 

  Put in simplest of terms, you have an abortion because the last thing you 
need in life is another mouth to feed.
 

 Huh? I think there are a whole shwack of other reasons why women have 
abortions - you make it sound so superficial and selfish.
 

  You die later and when it's your time to come back and perhaps there is 
someone waiting for you that could change the direction of your eternal life, a 
real savior, a master with important knowledge for you, a once in a million 
shot, waiting for you but you reap your karma from the last human experience 
and you are aborted before your destiny can be fulfilled. Hey, life's a bitch 
and then you die! Just so you didn;t have to raise a child that you didn't want.

 

 Again, if there is, in fact, reincarnation, karma and enlightened Masters. I'm 
not convinced about any of it.
 

 If one is going to err, it is better to err on the side of life, not 
convenience or not being responsible for your actions.

 

 Again, you assume much about the reason(s) why women might chose to terminate 
a growing life. Let's just throw out, randomly, a few other reasons why one 
might want to have an abortion - just for shits and giggles:
 

 Your father raped you
 You are 11 years old and were raped by your brother or someone else
 You were raped by someone with AIDS
 You become pregnant and early testing detects very serious birth defects in 
the fetus
 You have 6 children, are living in a shack in a third world country, the 
husband and father is a violent alcoholic who regularly beats and sodomizes you 
and your offspring
 Your health is such that having a child might kill you
 You are HIV positive
 

 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'd absolutely love to have a parrot or cockatoo but no it's just impossible 
since I have the falcons. One wrong move and it would be eaten!My birds don't 
have to talk and sometimes I think one of them is possessed! 
Had a cockatiel when I was a kid. It used to whistle the Andy Griffith Show 
theme song constantly. 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I like the ones throwing a tantrum!
Just crazy birds! Unbelievable their ability to mimic and they are really, 
really smart. I can see why people love these as pets, they are just brimming 
with personality. Can you imagine your raptors suddenly talking to you like 
that, Mike? You'd be sure they were possessed!


  From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:38 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet
 
 
Cockatoo finding out he is going to the vet

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[FairfieldLife] Sorry

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

Re: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I like the ones throwing a tantrum!
 

 Just crazy birds! Unbelievable their ability to mimic and they are really, 
really smart. I can see why people love these as pets, they are just brimming 
with personality. Can you imagine your raptors suddenly talking to you like 
that, Mike? You'd be sure they were possessed!
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:38 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet
 
 
   
 

 Cockatoo finding out he is going to the vet 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw
 
 Cockatoo finding out he is going to the vet 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw Max knows when he sees his carrier 
that it's a visit to the vet and gets pretty vocal about it. Max is saying his 
own words that only he understands for the ...


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
  
    "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for 

[FairfieldLife] Ray Dalio: More than anything else, I attribute my success to one thing [2 Attachments]

[Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ray-dalio-featured-in-dr-normal-rosenthal-book-super-mind-152727852.html
 

Ray Dalio: More than anything else, I attribute my success to one thing
Dalio is featured in Dr. Norman Rosenthal's new book 'Super Mind'
  By Julia La Roche 

May 20, 2016 12:13 PM
 
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Raymond "Ray" Dalio, chairman, founder and co-chief investment officer of 
Bridgewater Associates LP.
Billionaire Ray Dalio, the founder of $160 billion hedge-fund behemoth 
Bridgewater Associates, says that Transcendental Meditation has been “the 
single biggest influence” on his life.

Dalio,  66, is considered the most successful hedge fund manager 
 of 
all time. He’s been practicing Transcendental Mediation for more than 40 years.

“When I look back at my life, I am happy to have had what most people would 
consider a successful life, not only in terms of business, but in my 
relationships and in lots of ways.  More than anything else, I attribute it to 
meditation—partially because of the creativity, partly because of the 
centeredness.  TM has given me an ability to put things in perspective, which 
has helped a lot.  I think meditation has been the single biggest influence on 
my life.”

Dalio is featured in a new book called “Super Mind: How to Boost Performance 
and Live a Richer and Happier Life.” 

Written by noted clinical psychiatrist and best-selling author Dr. Norman E. 
Rosenthal, M.D. , “Super Mind” explores how 
the practice of Transcendental Meditation has helped business leaders achieve a 
super mind state of consciousness.

Our every day lives tend to be lived in three states of consciousness — 
wakefulness, sleep, and dreaming. However, through Transcendental Meditation 
there’s a “fourth state of consciousness” that “lies deep within the mind of 
every human being,” Rosenthal writes. That fourth state is “Transcendence.” 
Beyond this stage, though, lie even more states of consciousness, which 
Rosenthal refers to collectively as the “Super Mind.”

Rosenthal describes the “Super Mind” as “an experience of not only heightened 
aptitude and problem-solving ability, but also a state of emotional 
sensitivity, empathy, perspective and diplomatic skills.”

“It is the mind in peak condition not just momentarily – as we have all 
experienced – but with a consistency that may grow over time,” Rosenthal writes.

For the book, Rosenthal surveyed 600 practitioners of Transcendental 
Meditation. What he learned is that there are those who are “super-performers” 
in their respective fields and that’s not an accident.

“I now think that all high performers have in common, knowingly or unknowingly, 
qualities and characteristics of the Super Mind. That is, they are calm under 
pressure and uncannily resilient to stress. They take care of their health, set 
high standards of innovation and creativity, and are not only intensely engaged 
in their actions, but also capable of detaching when need be. They choose their 
projects carefully, keep the big picture in mind and ignore trifling details," 
Rosenthal writes.

Moreover, Rosenthal is convinced that almost anyone can achieve this super mind 
state through the practice of Transcendental Meditation. Most practitioners of 
Transcendental Meditation do it for twenty minutes, twice a day. Rosenthal 
found that a habit of meditation affects the daily consciousness, unlocking 
this super mind state.

"It is not necessary, however, to be a super performer in order to develop your 
Super Mind. What matters is to reach your own potential, not some idealized 
standard."

'Like a Ninja'

Dalio tells Rosenthal that meditating helps him remain “centered.” It’s a 
calmness that he describes as being “like a Ninja.”

“It means when things come at you – challenges, stresses, disruptive events – 
you can be calm and analytical and approach them almost, I imagine, like a 
Ninja sees things coming at him in slow motion so that he’s obviously in 
control.  Being “centered” is that state in which your emotions are not 
hijacking you.  The ability to think clearly, put things in their right place 
and have perspective: That’s what I mean by ‘centered.’”

Dalio's success in the financial markets comes from making multiple good 
decisions over time.  Meditation helps him make those decisions.

“I think that every single day there are many decisions that people make, and 
they all have consequences. And your life essentially depends on the cumulative 
quality of the decisions you make.  I’ve 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I like the ones throwing a tantrum!


  From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:38 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Max doesn't want to go to the vet
   
    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up. Of course dead 
beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the overwhelming 
majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.Chances are, 
they never had any significant part in raising the kid, monetarily or guidance 
wise.
As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the 
big *A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  
of children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not raising 
the minimum wage to $15.
  From: "awoelflebater@... 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Think on this Anne. I was once present when Maharishi was asked if there would 
be any karmic difference in eating yogurt if the bacteria in yogurt was of the 
animal kingdom or the plant kingdom. He looked very serious and said "yes and 
it would be worth knowing( if the bacteria was animal or plant)" Evidently he 
had never given yogurt any thought concerning the matter. How much more value 
is the life of an innocent human being over that of yogurt bacteria?If you will 
recall the talk about the woman that had an affair with Maharishi, she asked 
him what should she do if she ever got pregnant by him and his response was 
"get married, quickly!" But not to him. I think he indicated that he would 
arrange something. But he certainly didn't advise an abortion as I recall. Even 
though he could have to save his reputation.Anne, you could justify Hitler's 
murder of the Jews as *life sustaining* for the future of the Third Reich by 
your logic! Killing an innocent life is not life supporting or sustaining for 
anyone. Not the one killed because their life has been unjustly taken and not 
for the one killing because that karma will come back to haunt them and 
possibly at the worst time. Put in simplest of terms, you have an abortion 
because the last thing you need in life is another mouth to feed. You die later 
and when it's your time to come back and perhaps there is someone waiting for 
you that could change the direction of your eternal life, a real savior, a 
master with important knowledge for you, a once in a million shot, waiting for 
you but you reap your karma from the last human experience and you are aborted 
before your destiny can be fulfilled. Hey, life's a bitch and then you die! 
Just so you didn;t have to raise a child that you didn't want.
If one is going to err, it is better to err on the side of life, not 
convenience or not being responsible for your actions.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.

It can go both ways, Mike. You call abortion "bad" so follow this to the 
conclusion of your Isaiah quote ("good" and "bad" just might be relative here). 
Abortion is not life sustaining for the fetus, the unformed human, but could be 
"sustaining and supporting" for the mother. Think outside the box, Mike.  From: 
"olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi talk in 1952 introducing Guru Dev

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

His aim of life, if the life of a realised soul can be said to possess any such 
aim, is  to broadcast the message of the Great Divine light that he has himself 
realised, the Light that is the Soul of all human beings. Having himself 
attained the pinnacle of Self development, he aims at transforming the worldly 
minded people into the Godly minded, and through his inner Divine touch to 
change the materialistic hearts of iron into spiritual hearts of gold. 
 

 

 
 # 1952
 

 The Great Saint of the Himalayas is Coming
 to Shower His Blessings on the Metropolis
  

 The Statement issued by:  BAL BRAHMACHARI SHRI MAHESH JI.

  

 Press conference convened by Shri Shankaracharya Reception Committee, Delhi on 
the 15th October 1952 at 5 p.m. in the Young Man's Tennis Club, Queen's 
Gardens, in connection with the visit of HIS HOLINESS SHRI 
JAGATGURUSHANKARACHARYA MAHARAJ OF JYOTIR MATH.

  

 *

  

 It gives me a great pleasure to welcome you all and have your company here 
this afternoon. It gives me enough encouragement and support to acquaint you 
with the details of the mission for whose fulfilment His Holiness Shri 
Jagatguru Shankaracharya Swami BRAHMANANDA SARASWATI MAHARAJ will be visiting 
your city about the 12th of November 1952 and stay here for about a month for 
Dharmopdesha.

  

 Swami Brahmanda Saraswati Maharaj, the present Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math 
Badarikashram (in the Himalayas) is a magnetic personality with a sweet  
amalgam of High Wisdom and Love of humanity. He combines in himself the 
Knowledge of the self with the mysterious powers -- the siddhis arising out of 
yogic perfection and hard penances, which he has undergone throughout his life. 
He is a great living yogi and scholar and is revered by millions of Hindus as 
their Supreme Religious head.

  

 This great Saint of the modern age was born in Uttar Pradesh in a well to do 
and renowned Brahman family in 1871 and was enthroned to the seat of His 
Holiness Jagatguru Shankaracharya in 1941 at Banares, during the ninth session 
of the All India Sanatana Dharma Maha Sammelan convened by the Bharata Dharma 
Mahamandala in conjunction with a countrywide support of almost all the ruling 
princes and different socio-religious institutions all over the country. It may 
be recalled that it was a long persuasion of about twenty years which could 
convince Param Virakt Swami Brahmananda Saraswati to accept the great 
responsibility of the Shankaracharya at the age of seventy.

  

 From the  tender age of nine when he came out of his home in Search of God, 
till this time, his life was mostly spent in the lonely hidden regions of the 
Himalayas, Vindya Giris and the Amarkantakas which are rarely frequented by men 
and are chiefly inhabited by wild animals. For years together he has lived in 
hidden caves and thick forests where even the midday sun frets and fumes in 
vain to dispel the darkness that may be said to have made a permanent abode 
there in those solitary and distant regions.

  

 But today he is easily accessible as he is now the presiding head of Shri 
Jyotirmath which is the greatest religious institution of the Hindus of 
Northern India, covering all different creeds and sampradayas and branches 
lying under the fold of Hindu Religions.

  

 One unique principle of the great Sage that distinguishes him completely from 
other living saints of today is that he does not accept money as gift from his 
visitors or disciples.

  

 This brief description attempts to mirror a few hurried and short glimpses of 
the lifejourney of this great living sage who has actually transformed into a 
living fact the inner latent potentiality of the soul. He has known the great 
universal Truth, whose realisation is the aim of the entire scheme of life.  
For him the mists of ignorance have completely disappeared and having known the 
Divine Reality he has verily become an embodiment of the great Divinity.

  

 His aim of life, if the life of a realised soul can be said to possess any 
such aim, is  to broadcast the message of the Great Divine light that he has 
himself realised, the Light that is the Soul of all human beings. Having 
himself attained the pinnacle of Self development, he aims at transforming the 
worldly minded people into the Godly minded, and through his inner Divine touch 
to change the materialistic hearts of iron into spiritual hearts of gold.

  

 His entire personality emanates the sweet perfume of spirituality. His face 
radiates that rare light, which comprises love, authority, serenity and self 
assuredness thatcomes only by righteous living and Divine Realisation -- one 
feels as if some ancient Maharishi mentioned in the pages of the Upanishads has 
assumed human form and feels that it is worth while leading a pious life and to 
strive for the realisation of the Divine.

  

 His Spiritual teachings are simple and clear and go straight home to heart. He 
strictly 

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