[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Funtion?

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thxyour last statement on TM doesn't make sense.  Lots of things 
demonstrate consciousness.  You haven't given any evidence showing that 
(specifically), TM is in any way a superior mode of Consciousness as opposed to 
(say), a rooster observing the experiment and with his beak, making a choice.
 Even cockroaches can be observers, but they don't practice TM  Why does TM 
demonstrate a superior mode of consciousness as opposed to an experimenter not 
practicing TM?.
 
 ...
 Besides, you haven't answered the question of times/places in which there were 
no conscious observers.  (then no wave function collapse).
 

 Next, the Copenhagen Interpretation (which relies on conscious observers), is 
only one of several major Interpretations (at least 8), that rely on the 
concept of collapse of the wave function resulting from conscious observers.  
David Bohm's quantum interpretation has no need for conscious observers and 
states that the collapse of the wave function is simply an observation of the 
state at that time.
 Likewise, Hugh Everett's Multiverse interpretation doesn't need the collapse 
of the wave function.
 

 Last but least, you can't dance around the entry posted from Wikipedia on 
Hagelin. His statements have little credit outside of TM "True Believers".  And 
talking about agendas, it's clear he has one, and it's not "the truth".

[FairfieldLife] Re: FF meditator memoriam

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Gary Malmgren,
 A friend to everyone.
 The sweetest man in the Dome. 
Sept. 11, 1945 - Jan. 8, 2017

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Eulogy, 
 Meditators; it's been a long time, it's been a sacrifice at times to have been 
here. You came bravely, proudly. You're a special group. You've found in one 
another a bond that exists possibly only among siblings. You've shared 
community, held each other in dire moments. You've seen friends in their death 
here and we have all suffered together at times to be here. I'm proud to have 
meditated with each and every one of you. You all who came and joined the 
Fairfield, Iowa group meditation deserve long and happy rest in peace.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Amalia Bright passed away yesterday.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Friends
 Our dear friend William James Duke passed into the Life Eternal today at 
2:54pm as the Supermoon was preparing to rise.  It was a powerful, graceful 
transition.  The cremation ceremony will be Friday at Behner’s Funeral and 
Crematorium…in the afternoon ( time TBA).  A reception will follow at the home 
of Catharine Castle (time and address TBA).
  
 All blessings, jennifer
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 They shall not grow old:
 As we who are left grow old
 At the going down of the sun
 And in the morning we will
Remember them.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Florence Davis passed away recently.
 George Gallagher too. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Obit, 

  Thursday Oct. 20, 2016, Andrew Sheehan, age 40, passed away while resting at 
home.  His parents are Brian and Theresa Sheehan, his sister is Anna Hunter and 
his two sons are Sebastian, 23, and Tristyn, 10. Their mother is Angela 
Sheehan.  

 Andrew’s parents ask that all who loved Andrew send loving thoughts and 
prayers to Andrew.

 Andrew was a skilled builder and much loved. 

 A memorial service will be held Saturday, Oct. 22, at 2 p.m. at Behner Funeral 
Home. All are welcome. Those who wish may bring stems of flowers, no 
arrangements. Thank you.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Andrew Sheehan has passed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sally Peden, 69, of Fairfield, died Saturday, Oct. 1, 2016.
 Ms. Peden was born May 26, 1947, in Columbia, Missouri.
 She had devoted her life in personal service to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi since 
1971. She traveled the world with him as a personal assistant and lived for 
many years at the International Capital for the Transcendental Meditation 
movement in Seelisberg, Switzerland.
 Following that time, Ms. Peden spent years working for Maharishi University of 
Management. She worked for the Institute for Public Policy, the Natural Law 
Party, and finally she worked as administrator for M.U.M.’s vedic science 
program.
 
 Survivors include: her stepmother, Petch Peden, of Columbia Missouri; one 
sister, Liza Mitchell of Webster Groves, Missouri; and her close companion, Ken 
Chawkin of Fairfield.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Tom Torpy, a long time Purusha friend
 passed away recently. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 John Herbert Prechtel
is now gone on.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sali Pedin has passed on. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Nancy Van Blaricum TTC Mallorca 1972 w/ Maharishi
 Initiated over 2000 meditators
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for posting these. 

 Harvey Lubar, I knew.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 [  For researching/ study purposes,
   Scroll further down to the 'previous' posts to this thread to find other 
much longer lists,  ]
 

 

 Louisa Magee Marc Travis
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Recent passings from the meditating community.. 

 Gillian Pierce
 Frank Ramsey
 Gert MacQuaeen
 Evelyn Normandin
 Petra Stanley
 Harvey Lubar

 Further back, to add to the longer list
 Cindy Korn
 Jan Overholt

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 James R. French Long time friend and benefactor 
 of TM and the Fairfield, Iowa
 meditating community
 passed away, April 9th. .  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Jan Wixon, is another name on the list.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Funtion?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

 

 Yifuxero,
 

 Scientists have differing opinions about the quantum world.  Hagelin's critics 
have an agenda to sell their point of view and denigrate Hagelin's work.  But 
the fact remains that Hagelin is a brilliant man with a Phd. from Harvard and 
research credentials from CERN.  You have to compare the critics'  credentials 
before you believe what they say about Hagelin's research.  By the way, the 
point I'm saying is not related to Hagelin's position.  My point is somewhat 
related to what Tom Campbell, a physicist and lecturer, is saying as shown in 
the links I've attached in the previous posts.
 

 Lastly, the double-slit experiment is related to TM since the human observer 
has consciousness which collapses the wave function.  Doesn't TM emphasize the 
value of consciousness among its practitioner?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 What does the double slit experiment have to do with TM?
 

 Haven't you read the entry in Wikipedia for John Hagelin?
 

 To Quote:
 

 "
 Virtually every theoretical physicist in the world rejects all of this as 
nonsense and the work of a crackpot, but Hagelin's case shows that crackpots 
can have PhDs from the Harvard Physics Department and a large number of 
frequently cited papers published in the best peer-reviewed journals in 
theoretical physics.[17] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEWoit2006205.E2.80.93206-17
 Hagelin's linkage of quantum mechanics and unified field theory with 
consciousness was also critiqued by University of Iowa 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Iowa philosophy and sociology 
professors Evan Fales and Barry Markovsky in 1997, in the journal Social Forces 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Forces. They wrote that the connection 
relied on similarity between properties of quantum mechanical fields and 
consciousness, but that the parallels Hagelin highlighted between unified field 
theories and the Vedas rested on ambiguity, obscurity and vague analogy 
supported by the construction of arbitrary similarities.John Hagelin - 
Wikipedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFalesMarkovsky1997511.E2.80.93525-29

 
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFalesMarkovsky1997511.E2.80.93525-29
 
 John Hagelin - Wikipedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFalesMarkovsky1997511.E2.80.93525-29
 John Samuel Hagelin (born June 9, 1954) is an American author, three-time 
candidate of the Natural Law Party for President of the United States (1992, ...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Funtion?

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What does the double slit experiment have to do with TM?
 

 Haven't you read the entry in Wikipedia for John Hagelin?
 

 To Quote:
 

 "
 Virtually every theoretical physicist in the world rejects all of this as 
nonsense and the work of a crackpot, but Hagelin's case shows that crackpots 
can have PhDs from the Harvard Physics Department and a large number of 
frequently cited papers published in the best peer-reviewed journals in 
theoretical physics.[17] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEWoit2006205.E2.80.93206-17
 Hagelin's linkage of quantum mechanics and unified field theory with 
consciousness was also critiqued by University of Iowa 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Iowa philosophy and sociology 
professors Evan Fales and Barry Markovsky in 1997, in the journal Social Forces 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Forces. They wrote that the connection 
relied on similarity between properties of quantum mechanical fields and 
consciousness, but that the parallels Hagelin highlighted between unified field 
theories and the Vedas rested on ambiguity, obscurity and vague analogy 
supported by the construction of arbitrary similarities.John Hagelin - 
Wikipedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFalesMarkovsky1997511.E2.80.93525-29

 
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFalesMarkovsky1997511.E2.80.93525-29
 
 
 John Hagelin - Wikipedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagelin#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFalesMarkovsky1997511.E2.80.93525-29
 John Samuel Hagelin (born June 9, 1954) is an American author, three-time 
candidate of the Natural Law Party for President of the United States (1992, ...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Iniquitous Nefarious Trust

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 A while ago back there was an old-movement courtier who had been around the 
inside passing off a kind of specialness as a spiritual authoritative and 
jyotishi ensnaring savings and investments of advised meditators. 
 

 As one asks around the coffeeshops about the confidence artists of the 
meditating community feeding around the group names do come up on the list that 
folks can recite. 
 

 Not too long ago someone was taking money in a type of theft selling real 
estate where deeds could not be delivered. 

 Now it seems agents for the Iraqi currency ‘investment’ are feeding on the 
meditating community.
 ...
 
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/081314/iraqi-dinar-investment-wise-investment.asp
 
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/081314/iraqi-dinar-investment-wise-investment.asp
 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Iniquitous (grossly unfair and morally wrong) member behavior,
 and 
nefarious (wicked or criminal)  management.  
 
An e-mail warning memo that came out from the movement here last year at a 
point alerted people that someone who had previously been separating people 
from their money was back in town.  Apparently the person hooked up with a 
capable business woman here in the community and headed out with her. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In community, some years ago apparently someone took Jerry Jarvis’ retirement 
money to ‘invest’ it for him and made off with it.  Anybody know what the 
nature of that ‘investment’ scheme was? A while ago some trolling for people’s 
money here in Fairfield was 'investing' in caribbean banks.  
 

 I have run into some people here in Fairfield who more recently have become 
‘resource poor’ for having their savings ‘invested’ in what sounds like some 
nefarious trolling of people’s openness, again.
 
 
 Reading into histories of other groups like ours and how it went for them and 
often ended, this particular iniquitous behavior of insider members trolling of 
others to their own benefit is not uncommon in the narrative of how it went 
with other high-minded/altruistic attempts at intentional living like ours has 
been here in Fairfield. 
 

 



  


  

[FairfieldLife] Communal Celebrations this week..

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

In meditating Fairfield, Iowa:  
 
 Birthday of Maharaja, Tues., Jan. 10, 8 pm, Dalby Hall.
 
 January 12 celebration on Thursday at 1:15 pm in Men's Dome.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iniquitous Nefarious Trust

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Iniquitous (grossly unfair and morally wrong) member behavior,
 and 
nefarious (wicked or criminal)  management.  
 
An e-mail warning memo that came out from the movement here last year at a 
point alerted people that someone who had previously been separating people 
from their money was back in town.  Apparently the person hooked up with a 
capable business woman here in the community and headed out with her. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In community, some years ago apparently someone took Jerry Jarvis’ retirement 
money to ‘invest’ it for him and made off with it.  Anybody know what the 
nature of that ‘investment’ scheme was? A while ago some trolling for people’s 
money here in Fairfield was 'investing' in caribbean banks.  
 

 I have run into some people here in Fairfield who more recently have become 
‘resource poor’ for having their savings ‘invested’ in what sounds like some 
nefarious trolling of people’s openness, again.
 
 
 Reading into histories of other groups like ours and how it went for them and 
often ended, this particular iniquitous behavior of insider members trolling of 
others to their own benefit is not uncommon in the narrative of how it went 
with other high-minded/altruistic attempts at intentional living like ours has 
been here in Fairfield.