Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

>
>
> and your TM positive schtick is what, a rut? Or some blissful truth Marshy
> graciously gave you? Or a rut?
>
>
*Non sequitur. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the
premises or evidence.*
>

>
>   --
>  *From:* "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:39 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>  I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that
> you have towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays
> out in real life.
>
> Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to
> the TMO, but I suspect that is not the case.
>
> We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of
> eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in
> many other ways as well.
>
> To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal.
>  (-:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit
> it was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because
> if they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls
> apart.
>
> --------------
>  *From:* salyavin808 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it
> again.
>
> You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist,
> what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of
> sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask
> about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what
> the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to
> report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the
> bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in
> Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on
> and to do that you have to look behind the public face.
>
> Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation
> can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely
> crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could
> fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many
> people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people
> had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he
> was alive.
>
> The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some
> of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I
> don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for
> instance. Obscurity can have its advantages.
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When
> you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the
> discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M
> and his sycophants couldn't logically answer.
>
> --
>  *From:* "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>
> Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's
> a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's
> questions very well, actually. ":
>
> Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the
> world of serious journalism.
> If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and
> sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't
> used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't
> thought through the ramifications of his own proposals.
>
> To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he
> was probably approaching the end game so we c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
like I said, impervious to any evidence to the contrary
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 and your TM positive schtick is what, a rut? Or some blissful truth Marshy 
graciously gave you? Or a rut?

 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you 
have towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in 
real life.
 

 Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the 
TMO, but I suspect that is not the case.
 

 We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of 
eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in many 
other ways as well.
 

 To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal.  (-:

 

 

 

 


 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it 
was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if 
they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart.

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 
 

 You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to 
financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. 
Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look 
behind the public face.
 

 Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can 
be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then 
at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is 
perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people 
because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him 
that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.
 

 The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
and your TM positive schtick is what, a rut? Or some blissful truth Marshy 
graciously gave you? Or a rut?




 From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 


  
I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you have 
towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in real 
life.

Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the 
TMO, but I suspect that is not the case.

We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of 
eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in many 
other ways as well.

To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal.  (-:










---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it 
was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if 
they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart.




 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 

You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real
need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them 
buying land in Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is 
going on and to do that you have to look behind the public face.

Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be 
pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at 
least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly 
reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. 
It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any 
of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.

The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It wasn't
a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you see things 
that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the discrepancies. That's 
what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and his sycophants couldn't 
logically answer.




 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 


Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":

Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of 
serious journalism. 
If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he
wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he 
hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals.

To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically
to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

>
>
> any "university" that teaches and preaches that Hindu priests can change
> the world through butter and chanting sacrifices is some sort of science,
> not to mention the idea that foam hopping as scientifically verified
> positive effects on society is definitely so-called.
>
>
*You are definitely prejudiced against Hindus. There are thousands of
universities the world over that preach that prayer can have a positive
effect on society. Even "foam hopping" or "levitating up off of a sofa" can
change some people's world. Ask Barry if you don't believe me.*
>

>
>   --
>  *From:* feste37 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:01 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>  I am sure you are right about the nastiness of the BBC, which
> continually covered up for the necrophiliac psychopathic monster Jimmy
> Saville.
>
> But this Australian 60 Minutes segment was biased and hostile from start
> to finish. It doesn't take a genius to see it. Just to give one example
> from what I remember, the reporter referred to MUM as a "so-called"
> university. Wrong. It's an accredited university and is this year
> celebrating its 40th anniversary here in Fairfield. There's nothing
> "so-called" about it. You might as well refer to Iowa Wesleyan College,
> just 20 miles down the road from it, as a "so-called" college. (And having
> taught at both, I can tell you that MUM has brighter students, in my
> experience.)
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it
> again.
>
> You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist,
> what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of
> sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask
> about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what
> the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to
> report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the
> bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in
> Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on
> and to do that you have to look behind the public face.
>
> Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation
> can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely
> crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could
> fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many
> people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people
> had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he
> was alive.
>
> The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some
> of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I
> don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for
> instance. Obscurity can have its advantages.
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When
> you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the
> discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M
> and his sycophants couldn't logically answer.
>
> --
>  *From:* "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>
> Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's
> a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's
> questions very well, actually. ":
>
> Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the
> world of serious journalism.
> If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and
> sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't
> used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't
> thought through the ramifications of his own proposals.
>
> To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he
> was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be
> particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't
> sages supposed to be serene when their end comes?
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a
> hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's
> questions very well, actually.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>


Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you have 
towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in real 
life. 

 Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the 
TMO, but I suspect that is not the case.
 

 We know that when you eat a pizza, you think of Maharishi, and the act of 
eating the pizza becomes an act of defiance, but I suspect it plays out in many 
other ways as well.
 

 To most others, I think it looks like a rut,but for you, it's just normal.  (-:

 

 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it 
was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if 
they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart.

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 
 

 You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to 
financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. 
Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look 
behind the public face.
 

 Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can 
be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then 
at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is 
perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people 
because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him 
that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.
 

 The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-lik

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
any "university" that teaches and preaches that Hindu priests can change the 
world through butter and chanting sacrifices is some sort of science, not to 
mention the idea that foam hopping as scientifically verified positive effects 
on society is definitely so-called.




 From: feste37 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 


  
I am sure you are right about the nastiness of the BBC, which continually 
covered up for the necrophiliac psychopathic monster Jimmy Saville. 

But this Australian 60 Minutes segment was biased and hostile from start to 
finish. It doesn't take a genius to see it. Just to give one example from what 
I remember, the reporter referred to MUM as a "so-called" university. Wrong. 
It's an accredited university and is this year celebrating its 40th anniversary 
here in Fairfield. There's nothing "so-called" about it. You might as well 
refer to Iowa Wesleyan College, just 20 miles down the road from it, as a 
"so-called" college. (And having taught at both, I can tell you that MUM has 
brighter students, in my experience.)



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 

You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to 
financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. 
Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look 
behind the public face.

Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be 
pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at 
least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly 
reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. 
It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any 
of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.

The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.




 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 


Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":

Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of 
serious journalism. 
If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he
wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he 
hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals.

To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 



 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
 brings up something *he* doesn't want to deal with (like pretending
> to be a woman for months on FFL). He gets angry, loses all self control,
> and then stalks off himself, dropping out of sight, often returning later
> with a new ID and hoping everyone has forgotten how much he embarrassed
> himself. As cult leader, so like cult follower...Jimbo is parroting not
> only Maharishi's dumbass dogma, he's mimicking his behavior.
>
> This is just what people suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder
> DO. They attempt to control those around them, and if that attempt fails,
> they either find a way to get rid of them (excommunication, firing them,
> sending them home from a course, canceling the interview), or leave
> themselves (stalking off in a snit).
>
>
> --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Great find, Geez.
>
> It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many
> people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's
> so insane it hurts to look at him.
>
> I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry
> and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM
> sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its
> surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)
> :-)  :-)
>
> Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True
> Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be
> better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This
> is not a "hit job." This is what rational people in the real world think of
> TM True Believers. And they're right.
>
> --
>  *From:* "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
> Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
>
> Maharishi Exposed <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
>  [image: image] <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
>   Maharishi Exposed <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
> This feature is not available right now. Please try again later.
>   View on www.youtube.com  <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
>  Preview by Yahoo
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Great find, Geez.
>
> It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many
> people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's
> so insane it hurts to look at him.
>
> I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry
> and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM
> sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its
> surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)
> :-)  :-)
>
> Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True
> Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be
> better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This
> is not a "hit job." This is what rational people in the real world think of
> TM True Believers. And they're right.
>
> --
>  *From:* "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
> Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
>
> Maharishi Exposed <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
>  [image: image] <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
>   Maharishi Exposed <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
> This feature is not available right now. Please try again later.
>   View on www.youtube.com  <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
>  Preview by Yahoo
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>


Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
house of cards? Yes, please back up your 18 wheeler, full of past resentment, 
load on your house of cards, too, and drive the whole mess, elsewhere.
 

 feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et all, while the trucking crew is busy, let's 
have a party in the meantime! Champagne (actually California sparkling wine, 
produced by methode champenoise), anyone? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it 
was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if 
they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart.

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 
 

 You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to 
financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. 
Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look 
behind the public face.
 

 Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can 
be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then 
at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is 
perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people 
because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him 
that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.
 

 The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ople do in situations like 
that, and tried to "regain control" by stalking off. Think Robin Carlsen 
stalking off from FFL when no one would treat *him* the way he expected to be 
treated.

What sort of crappy excuse is that. "Can you fly?" is a perfectly reasonable 
question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. 

It certainly is. Especially when you've got top-level toadies like Bevan 
claiming that he could. 

And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all.

That *was* interesting, wasn't it. I got the feeling that at least Tony 
realized what an ass he was making of himself, but Bevan had nary a clue. He 
was as "out of it" and as unconscious of what constitutes normal behavior as 
lifetime schizophrenics I used to see in a state mental hospital I once worked 
in for a short time.  

 

 Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it.

Exactly. Furthermore, this "someone" had access to the media and about halfway 
through the interview they realized they didn't. I think that one reason 
Maharishi reacted the way that he did (like a petulant, narcissistic, spoiled 
brat of a child) is that he realized *during this interview* that it was OVER 
for him in terms of the general public buying his act. There was a day when he 
could have charmed even a reporter like this. But no more. This guy was 
treating him the way he would have treated any other crook, and Maharishi 
couldn't allow that to continue so that the sycophants around him could witness 
it. Better to stalk off in a snit and pretend that he held the upper hand than 
to allow them to see that he'd been thoroughly bested by an 
average-intelligence Australian TV reporter.

I think that this news clip should be shown to every sucker school, company, 
and military organization that has been bamboozled into taking David Lynch's 
spiels seriously. No preaching, no lobbying...just sit the principals of the 
organization down and ask them to watch this clip before deciding on whether to 
pour money down the TM toilet and flush it. I suspect that the outcome would be 
*exactly* what holding-on-for-dear-life True Believers fear it would be -- NO 
ONE would ever take the TMO claims as anything other than madness ever again. 

Just think about the buzzword that Maharishi was trying to sell as a product 
during this clip -- "Invincibility." Here he was claiming that TM and the TMSP 
would make whole nations "invincible" and he was so fragile and so emotionally 
out of control and so intimidated by a TV reporter that he reacted like a 
petulant child and stalked off. Some "invincibility," eh?

Just as an aside, isn't it fascinating that Mr. Enlightened Trailer Trash 
thinks Maharishi's "stalk off when someone asks a question he doesn't want to 
answer" routine is a "win?"  That, after all, is JIM's act whenever someone 
brings up something *he* doesn't want to deal with (like pretending to be a 
woman for months on FFL). He gets angry, loses all self control, and then 
stalks off himself, dropping out of sight, often returning later with a new ID 
and hoping everyone has forgotten how much he embarrassed himself. As cult 
leader, so like cult follower...Jimbo is parroting not only Maharishi's dumbass 
dogma, he's mimicking his behavior.

This is just what people suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder DO. 
They attempt to control those around them, and if that attempt fails, they 
either find a way to get rid of them (excommunication, firing them, sending 
them home from a course, canceling the interview), or leave themselves 
(stalking off in a snit).  


 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait fo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
feste, steve, doc, Buck, Nabby et al just cannot allow themselves to admit it 
was decent reporting, they have to find fault with the outsider, because if 
they look at the clip objectively then their whole hose of cards falls apart.




 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 

You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to 
financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. 
Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look 
behind the public face.

Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can be 
pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then at 
least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is perfectly 
reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people because of it. 
It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him that stopped any 
of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.

The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.




 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 


Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":

Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of 
serious journalism. 
If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he
wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he 
hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own proposals.

To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically
to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Great find, Geez. 


It's quite an experience watching
this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after 
reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. 


I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying
dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying 
physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)

Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually
listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." This is 
what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're 
right. 



____________
 From: "geezerfreak@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread feste37
I am sure you are right about the nastiness of the BBC, which continually 
covered up for the necrophiliac psychopathic monster Jimmy Saville. 

But this Australian 60 Minutes segment was biased and hostile from start to 
finish. It doesn't take a genius to see it. Just to give one example from what 
I remember, the reporter referred to MUM as a "so-called" university. Wrong. 
It's an accredited university and is this year celebrating its 40th anniversary 
here in Fairfield. There's nothing "so-called" about it. You might as well 
refer to Iowa Wesleyan College, just 20 miles down the road from it, as a 
"so-called" college. (And having taught at both, I can tell you that MUM has 
brighter students, in my experience.)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 
 

 You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to 
financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. 
Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look 
behind the public face.
 

 Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can 
be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then 
at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is 
perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people 
because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him 
that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.
 

 The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 
 












  

 


 

















Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
  On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:44 AM, salyavin808 
>  wrote:
>
> Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it
> again.
>
> You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist,
> what would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of
> sinister stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask
> about those. Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what
> the organisation wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to
> report what is going on. And this guy had a very real need to get to the
> bottom of what the TMO is up to financially because of them buying land in
> Australia and developing it. Everyone will want to know what is going on
> and to do that you have to look behind the public face.
>
> Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation
> can be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely
> crazy, then at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could
> fly is perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many
> people because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people
> had for him that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he
> was alive.
>
> The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some
> of the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I
> don't think Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for
> instance. Obscurity can have its advantages.
>
>
So, you don't want to talk about Rotherham. Go figure.



>

>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When
> you see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the
> discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M
> and his sycophants couldn't logically answer.
>
> ------
>  *From:* "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>
> Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's
> a hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's
> questions very well, actually. ":
>
> Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the
> world of serious journalism.
> If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and
> sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't
> used to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't
> thought through the ramifications of his own proposals.
>
> To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he
> was probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be
> particularly sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't
> sages supposed to be serene when their end comes?
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a
> hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's
> questions very well, actually.
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and
> muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically
> to fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Great find, Geez.
>
> It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many
> people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's
> so insane it hurts to look at him.
>
> I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry
> and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM
> sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its
> surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)
> :-)  :-)
>
> Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True
> Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be
> better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This
> is not a "hit job." This is what rational people in the real world think of
> TM True Believers. And they're right.
>
> ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 
 

 You lack perspective. Consider if you were to interview a scientologist, what 
would you ask them about? A quick google would reveal all sorts of sinister 
stories and beliefs that the group are alleged to hold, so you ask about those. 
Be silly not to, if you confine your questions simply to what the organisation 
wants to talk about you'd be failing in your duty to report what is going on. 
And this guy had a very real need to get to the bottom of what the TMO is up to 
financially because of them buying land in Australia and developing it. 
Everyone will want to know what is going on and to do that you have to look 
behind the public face.
 

 Unfortunately for the TMO everything other than the idea that meditation can 
be pleasant and have benefits for most people is, if not completely crazy, then 
at least open to serious questioning. Asking Marshy if he could fly is 
perfectly reasonable as they make so much money and control so many people 
because of it. It's only the over-sensitive reverence that people had for him 
that stopped any of them asking any proper questions whike he was alive.
 

 The TMO should be thankful that they never made prime time in the UK, some of 
the BBC journalists are very nasty indeed when they smell idiocy. I don't think 
Bevan would last 5 seconds up against Jeremy Paxman for instance. Obscurity can 
have its advantages.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
>
> Yep, a hack.  He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science
> and the reality of our spiritual experience underlying.  He had a story
> constructed before he came in.
>
> It's called "sanity."
>
> You should try it sometime, possibly with a side order of "respect for
> real science."
>
>
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
>

>
> So proclaims Professor Magillicuddy PhD of all things scientific and
> provable.
>
>
Respect for real science by a real science writer:

"What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting
in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in
the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground
for a while."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231

>
>
>
>
>  
>


Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Yep, a hack.  He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science and 
the reality of our spiritual experience underlying.  He had a story constructed 
before he came in.  

 

 It's called "sanity." 

 

 You should try it sometime, possibly with a side order of "respect for real 
science."
 

 So proclaims Professor Magillicuddy PhD of all things scientific and provable.
 

 
















Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 


  
Yep, a hack.  He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science and 
the reality of our spiritual experience underlying.  He had a story constructed 
before he came in.  


It's called "sanity." 


You should try it sometime, possibly with a side order of "respect for real 
science."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, a hack.  He came in dismissive and ignorant of the material science and 
the reality of our spiritual experience underlying.  He had a story constructed 
before he came in.  Hence, Transcendental to the ignorant while attacking the 
illumination of reality in others. The guy obviously came in marinated in 
intellectual skepticism.  He and his wall of hostility is quite sad journalism 
really without much of any professional objectivity.  He was proly paid really 
well by 60-Minutes for having mucked around.   -Buck
 

 Feste37 writes:
 

 Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*Some people will sink to the lowest level in order to win a religious
debate, down to and including using the tragic murder of thousands of
innocent children - if a massacre will help them make their point. I'm only
posting this so it's on record and so we know exactly what we a dealing
with in these discussions.*


*where is Edg when we need him?*

*Equating a debate opponent with a "Nazi" is considered to be universally
stupid on social media and in fact, is a crime in many European countries.
But, apparently it's not included in the FFL Guidelines. Go figure.*
>

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

>
>
> Richard, I like you. So wrt MJ calling Nabby a Nazi, please do not hold
> your breathe waiting for an apology!
>
>
>   On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:42 PM, "Richard Williams
> pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
> [FairfieldLife]  wrote:
>
>
>  Eggg-cellent!
>
> >
> *You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a "Nazi" or to Dan
> for equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not?*
> >
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>  Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
>
> Maharishi Exposed <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
> [image: image] <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:06 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

>
>
> Great find, Geez.
>
> It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many
> people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's
> so insane it hurts to look at him.
>
>
*Compared to looking at Barry sitting inside a cafe next to a canal posting
to social media?*
>

>
> I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry
> and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM
> sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its
> surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)
> :-)  :-)
>
>
*Compared to students studying computer science and watching levitation
demonstrations?*
>


> Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True
> Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be
> better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This
> is not a "hit job." This is what rational people in the real world think of
> TM True Believers. And they're right.
>
>
*Compared to what rational people in the real world think of Barry's
levitation claims?*
>

>
>
>   --
>  *From:* "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>  Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
>
> Maharishi Exposed <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
> [image: image] <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs>
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread feste37
Oh, MJ, you do make me laugh. It wasn't a hostile interview? Watch it again. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Maybe some day your repeating saying so, will make it so. 

 And you show no sign of letting up, so I guess we'll be able to see if that's 
the case.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No matter how much you protest against normal people not believing in TM, no 
matter how much you revile those of us who have common sense, no matter how 
much you ignore the reality of the Movement - THE MOVEMENT WILL NEVER BE SANE. 
Period. 

 

 Nor will the Old Fraud ever become "enlightened" retroactively. The clip shows 
what a selfish childish self centered twit he was. None of your glossing it 
over and ignoring the obvious will make it any different.

 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   You put your own spin on it, just like anyone else.  When you've got an axe 
to grind, then you interpret things accordingly.  You are no more free of bias 
than anyone else. Your statements below reflect that. 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.
 

 I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a 
bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing 
shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. 
Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are 
mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation.
 

 When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the 
newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the 
mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a 
round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in 
there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the 
time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside 
not to see it.
 

 Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he 
refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? 
What sort of crappy excuse is that. "Can you fly?" is a perfectly reasonable 
question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the 
faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all.
 

 Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure, I understand that those questions are awkward. I understand that it is 
the reporters job to ask those questions. 

 I also understand that the reporter didn't like the answers to those 
questions, and that was evident.
 

 Sure a reporter will press the interviewee.  But a reporter shouldn't show an 
obvious bias.
 

 If you did not see the bias, and underlying anger of the reporter when 
interviewing Bevan at the end of the segment than either you are missing 
something, or I am missing something.
 

 The John Knapp portion constituted about 20% of the interview.  I thought his 
statements were exaggerated and full of inaccuracies.
 

 Obviously you see it differently.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.

 

 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:01 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] <
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a "Sam Harris sez" type
> pattern?
>
>
Sam Harris has a certain appeal to authority for him - he seems to need
that, which would explain why he has spent so much time and money in the
pursuit of a guru almost his entire adult life. If he wants Harris to be
his current teacher, he could do worse. Apparently Barry seems comfortable
with a few books, a TV set and some pirated movies to watch while posting
to social media. It's not complicated.

Barry is not much into actual group practice of any form of meditation,
yoga or martial art training, apparently. In contrast, Harris had spend
years studying and practicing under a Tibetan Lama, earning a Black Belt
and a Ph.D. in neuro-science.

The main problem with the secular approach to meditation training is that
when you remove the Buddhism from the practice, you've left out all the
interesting mood-making; all the saving grace and the inspiration. Instead
of transcending into bliss, you just stay on the surface level of the mind
concentrating on your breathing.

Anyone can learn to practice meditation in just a few minutes from a book -
the actual practice may be not so easy - as I found out sitting at the San
Francisco Zen Center. Try this simple experiment: just sit for one hour
without moving. If you are like me, meditation is way more more joyful if
you have a "seed" thought to return to.

The problem is that almost all Tibetan meditation training involves the
Buddhist religion to a certain degree. Barry has stated on numerous
occasions that he doe not believe in some aspects of the Buddhist doctrine:
The Four Noble Truths, the Eightfold Path and the "Chain of Dependent
Arising." Go figure.

And, everyone knows that Tibetan Buddhism has as many, if not more,
mood-making tools at your disposal, than almost any religion on the planet.
The problem is the will-to-believe: if you don't believe in the
enlightenment tradition, you might as well take a nap on the bed, and just
try to relax.
>


> I mean according to Barry, "half the internet" has read his book.
>
> sorta funny, I think
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Great find, Geez.
>
> It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many
> people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's
> so insane it hurts to look at him.
>
> I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry
> and witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM
> sign with the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its
> surreal...students here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)
> :-)  :-)
>
> Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True
> Believers on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be
> better served by actually listening to it again and paying attention. This
> is not a "hit job." This is what rational people in the real world think of
> TM True Believers. And they're right.
>
> ------
>  *From:* "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
> Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
>
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No matter how much you protest against normal people not believing in TM, no 
matter how much you revile those of us who have common sense, no matter how 
much you ignore the reality of the Movement - THE MOVEMENT WILL NEVER BE SANE. 
Period. 


Nor will the Old Fraud ever become "enlightened" retroactively. The clip shows 
what a selfish childish self centered twit he was. None of your glossing it 
over and ignoring the obvious will make it any different.




 From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 


  
You put your own spin on it, just like anyone else.  When you've got an axe to 
grind, then you interpret things accordingly.  You are no more free of bias 
than anyone else. Your statements below reflect that. 





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.

I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch 
of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady 
deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. 
Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are 
mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation.

When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the 
newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the 
mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a 
round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in 
there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the 
time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside 
not to see it.

Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he 
refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? 
What sort of crappy excuse is that. "Can you fly?" is a perfectly reasonable 
question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the 
faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all.

Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Great find, Geez. 


It's quite an experience watching
this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after 
reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. 


I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying
dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying 
physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)

Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually
listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." This is 
what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're 
right. 




 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 
Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.

Maharishi Exposed

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Excellent post Barry - couldn't have said it better myself.




 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 


  
From: salyavin808 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.

I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a bunch 
of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing shady 
deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. 
Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are 
mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation.

It's more than a little scary that people like sometimes-rational feste don't 
see the insanity in this news clip that 99.99% of the world's population would 
see. Maharishi is just fuckin' GONE, man, which one might attribute just to 
senility and old age, if it weren't for the fact that most of the other people 
who represent the TMO in the segment are equally GONE. Bevan has never *been* 
more embarrassing than he was in this bit, and that's really saying something. 

I still think that a lot of it w.r.t. the brainwashing is the "frog in the pot" 
syndrome. Yeah, I know it's probably a real phenomenon, but the metaphor was 
that if
 you put a frog in a pot of hot water, he recognizes the threat to life and 
just jumps out. Put a frog in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, and 
he'll just sit there and allow himself to be boiled to death because he gets 
used to it in small increments. 

That's what happened to formerly rational TMers. The brainwashing "snuck up on 
them" over a period of years and decades. Over that time they got used to 
seeing things around them that would sent had them running for the exits if 
they'd been allowed to see them during their first months with TM, but by the 
time they *did* get to see them they'd been trained to consider these things 
"normal."

This is what is scariest to normal 99.99% people watching clips like this one. 
It's *not* the craziness of the principals, like Maharishi and Bevan and "King" 
Tony -- it's the craziness of people like feste who make excuses
 for them, and write off their obvious insanity by claiming the interview was a 
"hatchet job." Now *that* is scary. You'd almost *expect* the leaders of a 
worldwide cult to be crazy, but the everyday followers of the cult?  


When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the 
newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the 
mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a 
round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in 
there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the 
time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside 
not to see it.

Exactly. Part of the *definition* of "being on the inside" is having been 
sufficiently brainwashed to consider these levels of insanity normal. 

The scariest part, from my point of view, is that once one has made an internal 
(and rarely conscious) decision to accept this level of craziness as normal, 
it's very, very, very, very difficult to ever be able to see it another way. 
Once brainwashed, people tend to
 *stay* brainwashed, unless they have a great deal of personal power and will 
and an inability to be coerced by cult peer pressure.  


Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he 
refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? 

He was *clearly* reacting to the reporter's 'tude, which refused to give him 
the suck-up obeisance he'd gotten used to getting from almost everyone. So he 
did what all Narcissistic Personality Disordered people do in situations like 
that, and tried to "regain control" by stalking off. Think Robin Carlsen 
stalking off from FFL when no one would treat *him* the way he expected to be 
treated.

What sort of crappy excuse is that. "Can you fly?" is a perfectly reasonable 
question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. 

It certainly is. Especially when you've got top-level toadies like Bevan 
claiming that he could. 

And the faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all.

That *was* interesting, wasn't it. I got the feeling that at least Tony 
realized what an ass he was making of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It wasn't a hostile interview at all. The reporter was doing his job. When you 
see things that don't add up, its a reporter's job to ask about the 
discrepancies. That's what he did. Purely asking logical questions that M and 
his sycophants couldn't logically answer.




 From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 


  


Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":

Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of 
serious journalism. 
If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.

To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Great find, Geez. 


It's quite an experience watching
this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after 
reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. 


I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying
dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying 
physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)

Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually
listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." This is 
what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're 
right. 



________________
 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 
Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread feste37
MMY was not at his best in his final years, when he was old and probably sick. 
Remember, "the gods give us some faults to make us men" and be charitable. I 
don't blame him at all for cutting the reporter off, since the man's intentions 
were obvious. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You put your own spin on it, just like anyone else.  When you've got an axe to 
grind, then you interpret things accordingly.  You are no more free of bias 
than anyone else. Your statements below reflect that. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.
 

 I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a 
bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing 
shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. 
Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are 
mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation.
 

 When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the 
newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the 
mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a 
round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in 
there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the 
time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside 
not to see it.
 

 Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he 
refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? 
What sort of crappy excuse is that. "Can you fly?" is a perfectly reasonable 
question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the 
faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all.
 

 Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread danfriedman2002

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, I like you. So wrt MJ calling Nabby a Nazi, please do not hold your 
breathe waiting for an apology!

 
I do agree, when Maharishi advised that you can tell everything about a person, 
from just a few words that he says.
 On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:42 PM, "Richard Williams punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   
 
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... 
mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
   Eggg-cellent!





 >
 You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a "Nazi" or to Dan for 
equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not?
 > 
 

 From: "geezerfreak@... mailto:geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 



Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":

Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world of 
serious journalism. 
If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. 

Exactly. As for "serious journalism," isn't this clip from the Australian 
version of "60 Minutes?" That's pretty serious. 

He didn't because 1) he wasn't used to dealing with people who weren't fawning 
over him, and 2) he hadn't thought through the ramifications of his own 
proposals.

Give the girl two points. :-) He was by this point so used to just saying shit 
and have it be taken seriously by the sycophants around him that he literally 
couldn't cope with someone not falling for it. 


To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?

I don't know when it was recorded, either. All we do know is that Maharishi's 
isolation and insanity only got WORSE from this point onwards, until he finally 
ended his life speaking over closed-circuit TV to no one BUT sycophants who had 
already paid him a million dollars each, trying to extort even more money from 
them to build enormous phalluses in his honor. Maharishi's "last days" could 
not have been more like "King Lear" if he'd been trying to perform that role 
onstage. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Great find, Geez. 


It's quite an experience watching
this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after 
reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. 


I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying
dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying 
physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)

Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually
listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." This is 
what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're 
right. 




 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 
Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.

Maharishi Exposed

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-17 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
his "someone" had access to the media and about halfway 
through the interview they realized they didn't. I think that one reason 
Maharishi reacted the way that he did (like a petulant, narcissistic, spoiled 
brat of a child) is that he realized *during this interview* that it was OVER 
for him in terms of the general public buying his act. There was a day when he 
could have charmed even a reporter like this. But no more. This guy was 
treating him the way he would have treated any other crook, and Maharishi 
couldn't allow that to continue so that the sycophants around him could witness 
it. Better to stalk off in a snit and pretend that he held the upper hand than 
to allow them to see that he'd been thoroughly bested by an 
average-intelligence Australian TV reporter.

I think that this news clip should be shown to every sucker school, company, 
and military organization that has been bamboozled into taking David Lynch's 
spiels seriously. No preaching, no lobbying...just sit the principals of the 
organization down and ask them to watch this clip before deciding on whether to 
pour money down the TM toilet and flush it. I suspect that the outcome would be 
*exactly* what holding-on-for-dear-life True Believers fear it would be -- NO 
ONE would ever take the TMO claims as anything other than madness ever again. 

Just think about the buzzword that Maharishi was trying to sell as a product 
during this clip -- "Invincibility." Here he was claiming that TM and the TMSP 
would make whole nations "invincible" and he was so fragile and so emotionally 
out of control and so intimidated by a TV reporter that he reacted like a 
petulant child and stalked off. Some "invincibility," eh?

Just as an aside, isn't it fascinating that Mr. Enlightened Trailer Trash 
thinks Maharishi's "stalk off when someone asks a question he doesn't want to 
answer" routine is a "win?"  That, after all, is JIM's act whenever someone 
brings up something *he* doesn't want to deal with (like pretending to be a 
woman for months on FFL). He gets angry, loses all self control, and then 
stalks off himself, dropping out of sight, often returning later with a new ID 
and hoping everyone has forgotten how much he embarrassed himself. As cult 
leader, so like cult follower...Jimbo is parroting not only Maharishi's dumbass 
dogma, he's mimicking his behavior.

This is just what people suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder DO. 
They attempt to control those around them, and if that attempt fails, they 
either find a way to get rid of them (excommunication, firing them, sending 
them home from a course, canceling the interview), or leave themselves 
(stalking off in a snit).  



--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Great find, Geez. 


It's quite an experience watching
this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after 
reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. 


I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying
dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying 
physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)

Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually
listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." This is 
what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And they're 
right. 




 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over



 
Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.

Maharishi Exposed

 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Great find, Geez. 


It's quite an experience watching
this and listening to Maharishi and many people I know personally, just after 
reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so insane it hurts to look at him. 


I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying
dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students here studying 
physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)

Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually
listenin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice.
 

 I disagree that the reporter was arrogant, there he was confronted with a 
bunch of deluded fruitcakes who think they can fly, and who are also doing 
shady deals to gain property in his country, he's damn right to be suspicious. 
Trouble is, a lot of people here lack the objectivity to see that they are 
mixed up in something so bizarre and lacking foundation.
 

 When I was a newbie meditator I was filled with the usual fervent zeal of the 
newly converted, convinced I'd discovered some truth that has eluded the 
mainstream. Imagine my surprise when the Sunday Times did (for some reason) a 
round up of cults and what they were all about. I was shocked to see TM in 
there at all but the fact they got a maximum loony rating seemed amazing at the 
time. But I didn't know anything about them then. You need to be on the inside 
not to see it.
 

 Marshy came over very badly I thought, were you convinced that the reason he 
refused to meet in person is because he found that new people waste his time? 
What sort of crappy excuse is that. "Can you fly?" is a perfectly reasonable 
question to someone who makes a fortune out of telling others they can. And the 
faux grovelling outrage by Bev and Da king convinced me not at all.
 

 Bottom line, someone didn't take them seriously and they didn't like it.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, it seems like Barry had a lot riding on this release.  Highly anticipated 
by him.  It doesn't look like he's getting the response he hoped for, even with 
half the internet.. 

 Or maybe it was all the ground rules he laid down.
 

 Go figure.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It has been quite a few years since bawee could nuzzle up to a big shot (its 
kinda his 'thing'), and with Cockburn not sending him any backstage passes, it 
looks like Harris is the lucky recipient of fanboy's over the top adulation. It 
is embarrassing to watch, but fascinating too -  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a "Sam Harris sez" type pattern? 

 I mean according to Barry, "half the internet" has read his book.
 

 sorta funny, I think
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, was quite dated.   Not at all how the new TM movement is today. -Buck
 

Feste37 writes:

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

fleetwood_macncheese wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
urquoiseb wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Re "I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. ":
 

 Yes, it's a hostile interview but that's what happens out there in the world 
of serious journalism. 
 If MMY had kept his shit together and answered the questions calmly and 
sensibly he could have saved the situation. He didn't because 1) he wasn't used 
to dealing with people who weren't fawning over him, and 2) he hadn't thought 
through the ramifications of his own proposals.
 

 To give MMY some slack, I'm not sure when this tape was recorded and he was 
probably approaching the end game so we can't expect him to be particularly 
sharp. Nevertheless he did come across as bad-tempered. Aren't sages supposed 
to be serene when their end comes?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 Too funny. bawee knows "so many people" "personally"on this tape. Would that 
include MMY? Personally? Bevan? Tell us. Who else, the reporter? Oh, yes he 
must be one of the lurking reporters. Now I get it.
 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right.
 

 A, I didn't know that. "Rational people in the real world". I'd like to 
find these people and this place. Do they and does such a thing really exist?
 Think bawee, for once in your God-forsaken life, think.
 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread feste37
I found it quite entertaining but this is not serious journalism. It's a 
hatchet job, anyone can see that. I thought Bevan handled the reporter's 
questions very well, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It has been quite a few years since bawee could nuzzle up to a big shot (its 
kinda his 'thing'), and with Cockburn not sending him any backstage passes, it 
looks like Harris is the lucky recipient of fanboy's over the top adulation. It 
is embarrassing to watch, but fascinating too - 
 

 "Girding our loins", now that is hilarious. Reminds me of some Charles Heston 
movie. Of course, bawee and those who think like him (no one actually thinks 
like him, but those who bother to listen to him and agree) are girders as well. 
They just love getting their loins all girded in order to throw the same old, 
same old at the rest of us - most of whom just watch, listen and laugh. What 
does he think we do - fall into apoplexy when he criticizes cults or TM or 
Maharishi? It is a sight to behold, loins and all.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a "Sam Harris sez" type pattern? 

 I mean according to Barry, "half the internet" has read his book.
 

 sorta funny, I think
 

 bawee will idolize anyone he thinks is annoying those he dislikes. Right now 
it appears to be Mr Harris.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It has been quite a few years since bawee could nuzzle up to a big shot (its 
kinda his 'thing'), and with Cockburn not sending him any backstage passes, it 
looks like Harris is the lucky recipient of fanboy's over the top adulation. It 
is embarrassing to watch, but fascinating too -  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a "Sam Harris sez" type pattern? 

 I mean according to Barry, "half the internet" has read his book.
 

 sorta funny, I think
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Excellent find, prison boy! That "reporter" came in all arrogant, and 
muck-raking, wanting to do his hit piece, and Maharishi tells him basically to 
fuck off, and leave the building! Priceless! Watched it twice. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a "Sam Harris sez" type pattern? 

 I mean according to Barry, "half the internet" has read his book.
 

 sorta funny, I think
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Great find, Geez. 

 

 It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 

 

 I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

 Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 

 

 From: "geezerfreak@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
 
 
   Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
 

 Maharishi Exposed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGc1yTDU8Fs

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, I like you. So wrt MJ calling Nabby a Nazi, please do not hold your 
breathe waiting for an apology!



On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:42 PM, "Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  




On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

 
>  
>Eggg-cellent!
>
You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a "Nazi" or to Dan for 
equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not?
> 

>
>
>
> From: "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
> 
>
>
> 
>Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
>
>
>Maharishi Exposed
>
> 
>   Maharishi Exposed  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

>
>
> Eggg-cellent!
>
>
*You still have failed to apologized for calling Nabby a "Nazi" or to Dan
for equating TM practice with the Jewish holocaust. Why not?*
>

>
>   --
>  *From:* "geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:03 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over
>
>
>  Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 
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 Wait for the MMY interview 30 seconds in.




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 You suck, troll.
 

 Woah, wait a minute, you were saying yesterday that TM is simply a relaxation 
technique. And that anyone who takes the rest of it seriously is an idiot as we 
are already enlightened. You sound a bit confused.
 

 And I don't think posting a video about Marshy - featuring an interview with 
said gentleman -  on a TM discussion group really qualifies as trolling. Maybe 
you just don't like the unvarnished opinions of someone concerned about TM 
shenanigans in their country? Maybe you're just a bit sensitive for some 
reason. How's the flying coming along? Chortle.
 

 

 "The narrator suggests that Mahesh believes people can fly. This is, of 
course, nonsense. Mahesh believes nothing of the kind. BUT he knows for a 
certainty that people believe he can teach them to fly ... see the difference. 
As con artists go, Mahesh gets very high (and dubious) marks?" - Sudarsha 
Namaskar

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Eggg-cellent!




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
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FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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"The narrator suggests that Mahesh believes people can fly. This is, of
course, nonsense. Mahesh believes nothing of the kind. BUT he knows for a
certainty that people believe he can teach them to fly ... see the
difference. As con artists go, Mahesh gets very high (and dubious) marks?"
- Sudarsha Namaskar
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Established in Being, let anger take over

2014-09-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Great find, Geez. 


It's quite an experience watching this and listening to Maharishi and many 
people I know personally, just after reading Sam Harris' new book. Bevan's so 
insane it hurts to look at him. 


I love the Australian announcer's way of putting things...it's very dry and 
witty and Sam Harris-like. For example, standing in front of the MUM sign with 
the flying dome in the background, saying, "I mean...its surreal...students 
here studying physics who believe they can *fly*."  :-)  :-)  :-)

Rather than lashing out at this news report as we all know some True Believers 
on this forum are girding their loins to do, I think they'd be better served by 
actually listening to it again and paying attention. This is not a "hit job." 
This is what rational people in the real world think of TM True Believers. And 
they're right. 




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2014-09-16 Thread geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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