[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: NPD
Awoelf, the leader seems is in to interpreting divine significations in things happening around him to make events and people seem extremely important to him and connect to larger things. He's an ultra religious guy. Has a lot of religious text in his head to draw on. The follower though is along for some kind of ride. I have run in to both around town now and had conversations letting them talk as I mostly asked questions and listened. This last weekend a clinical social worker was visiting town and ran in to these two around the square in Fairfield and talked with them a few times. The social worker by training and career clinical experience was appalled by what was publicly going on between the two. The leader being incredibly demeaning of the younger guy in front of other people, in front of public saying things extremely critical of the younger's dress, cleanliness and demeanor and then would do it in ways to get who ever was listening to him to agree and collaborate in the chastisement. The younger guy really was fine enough in dress, care and demeanor. The social worker separately ran in to the younger person later and asked why he stayed around the leader[?]. The younger answered saying that, 'you get used to it'. Being squashed and humiliated? I talked with the younger guy independently at a different time and got a little of his story. Doesn't hold a bachelor degree but some college level study. Has worked doing some copy editing and in libraries and liked that. Might like to go to seminary. Says going back to family as an option is too complex. Follower is about 10 years younger than the leader. The follower evidently is estranged from family back home and has been with the leader for a while going to Jerusalem, Europe and some US places as they travel. The social worker was from out of town and only here in Fairfield attending a folk dance weekend for fun. The social worker by professional career experience was especially concerned by what was seen and heard. The older guy is really clever manipulative. Awoelf, you evidently have had some experience with this. What would you tell the younger guy to do? There are resources that deal with this that he could turn to for extracting himself? It does not seem that he can just go back to family, friends or some place necessarily. Just wondering what you'd say to the follower. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: NPD Heads-up. Seems there is a guy and a follower This is so funny, a guy and a follower. Doesn't sound like this guy is too charismatic if he has one lonely follower in his retinue. who showed up in town in the last few days with these kinds of traits. Tells a good story, really smart but incredibly manipulative and evidently abusive with the younger follower. Lot like that other guy that used to post here. I sent this new guy on to find the afternoon Fairfield illumined experience banana-gram group. I think they have the resources to deal with him safely and will appreciate him a lot. -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: NPD
How about Janet Digiovanna? What an abusive whack job she was - somebody ought to write a chapter on her sometime. On Mon, 11/4/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: NPD To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 4, 2013, 4:11 AM Whatutalking about?Robin Carlsen is a very interesting chapter in TM. He and TM are going to be studied by historical and social-science scholars for a long time to come.I guess that makes you and some others who went off with him part of TM that way too. That is okay. If nothing else the court transcripts will always be part of the study of TM. No need to get defensive. I am glad you turned up here on FFL to share your experience with it too. It is very interesting, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: NPD Heads-up. Seems there is a guy and a follower who showed up in town in the last few days with these kinds of traits. Tells a good story, really smart but incredibly manipulative and evidently abusive with the younger follower. Lot like that other guy that used to post here. I sent this new guy on to find the afternoon Fairfield illumined experience banana-gram group. I think they have the resources to deal with him safely and will appreciate him a lot. I would think FF would be used to all sorts of crazy pseudo gurus making their way around the town square. Probably a good portion of residents there figured themselves some sort of teacher or capable of some special ability like speaking to animals, channeling angels or otherwise having their enlightened fingers on the pulse of what's-happenin'-now. Just one more of these dudes hitching his cow pony to the tie-up rail in front of Revelations surely is not cause for concern. Of course, a rousing game of Bananagrams always did separate the men from the boys (or the avatars from the plebs). Now on the subject of NPD and Robin I think this subject has been bandied about long enough. Neither you nor Barry has the beginnings of an inkling of what makes that man tick and most of us here would appreciate it if you would leave the negative and inappropriate labels where they belong - in the textbooks or in the hands of those who might have a clue. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: NPD
Whatutalking about? Robin Carlsen is a very interesting chapter in TM. He and TM are going to be studied by historical and social-science scholars for a long time to come. I guess that makes you and some others who went off with him part of TM that way too. That is okay. If nothing else the court transcripts will always be part of the study of TM. No need to get defensive. I am glad you turned up here on FFL to share your experience with it too. It is very interesting, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: NPD Heads-up. Seems there is a guy and a follower who showed up in town in the last few days with these kinds of traits. Tells a good story, really smart but incredibly manipulative and evidently abusive with the younger follower. Lot like that other guy that used to post here. I sent this new guy on to find the afternoon Fairfield illumined experience banana-gram group. I think they have the resources to deal with him safely and will appreciate him a lot. I would think FF would be used to all sorts of crazy pseudo gurus making their way around the town square. Probably a good portion of residents there figured themselves some sort of teacher or capable of some special ability like speaking to animals, channeling angels or otherwise having their enlightened fingers on the pulse of what's-happenin'-now. Just one more of these dudes hitching his cow pony to the tie-up rail in front of Revelations surely is not cause for concern. Of course, a rousing game of Bananagrams always did separate the men from the boys (or the avatars from the plebs). Now on the subject of NPD and Robin I think this subject has been bandied about long enough. Neither you nor Barry has the beginnings of an inkling of what makes that man tick and most of us here would appreciate it if you would leave the negative and inappropriate labels where they belong - in the textbooks or in the hands of those who might have a clue. -Buck
