[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Alex Stanley
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos!
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war!
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels!
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex!

Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal
city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely
surrounded by water.

Why the need for magical thinking?

Alex

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 Funny how God works in strange ways: 
 
 What we give, we get back; 
 
 Revenge is mine, said God. 
 
 So, perhaps, the invasion and destruction of Iraq; 
 
 It's infrastructure; it's poor and defenseless; 
 
 When we bombed, watching, Look How We Can Shock and Awe. 
 
 We watched the bombs fall, and light up the sky;
 
 Live on CNN. 
 
 Now we see the reaction; 
 
 Nature's might; in New Orleans; 
 
 And surrounding areas. 
 
 And the folly of man.
 
 And how the whole world sees our 'Superpower'; 
 
 For what it is; Like the Titanic. 
 
 Arrogant to think we could escape forever, 
 
 The wrath of God;
 
 For our nation's  invasion;
 
 And the destruction of Iraq. 
 
  
 
 
 
 
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos!
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war!
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels!
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex!
 
 Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal
 city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely
 surrounded by water.
 
 Why the need for magical thinking?

Because it makes people feel magical.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos!
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war!
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels!
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex!
  
  Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal
  city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely
  surrounded by water.
  
  Why the need for magical thinking?
 
 Because it makes people feel magical...

...and is an alternative to thinking.
uns.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the homos!
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Iraq war!
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Christian infidels!
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the black magic and sex!
 
 Or, maybe, just maybe, Katrina destroyed NOLA because it's a coastal
 city in a hurricane zone, built below sea level, and largely
 surrounded by water.
 
 Why the need for magical thinking?
 
 Alex
 
How about:
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu
buildings
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits
 Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing in
enough  

Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about
right... 

JohnY




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Vaj



On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about:
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu
 buildings
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits
  Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing in
 enough  
 
 Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about
 right... 
 
 JohnY

Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global warming! :-)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  How about:
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu
  buildings
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing in
  enough  
  
  Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds about
  right... 
  
  JohnY
 
 Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global warming! :-)

Sure ;-). But something that hasn't been widely reported is that there
is significant global warming happening on Mars. (dry) Ice caps are
melting rapidly and I'm pretty sure it isn't caused by burning fossil
fuels or the lack of pundits ;-) 


JohnY


 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   How about:
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu
   buildings
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits
   Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing
   enough  
   
   Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds 
   about right... 
  
  Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global 
  warming! :-)
 
 Sure ;-). But something that hasn't been widely reported is that 
 there is significant global warming happening on Mars. (dry) Ice 
 caps are melting rapidly and I'm pretty sure it isn't caused by 
 burning fossil fuels or the lack of pundits ;-) 

A good pinko liberal Commie bastid could blame 
even that on the United States.  Viking 1 and 2 
landed from a southerly direction and the whole 
environment went to hell in a handbasket.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 9/8/05 10:17 AM, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
How about:
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of the Rakshasa Ravana
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of all the south facing non vastu
buildings
Katrina destroyed NOLA because of lack of pundits
Katrina destroyed NOLA because the TM teachers weren't bringing
enough  

Built below sea level, and largely surrounded by water, sounds 
about right... 
   
   Oh come on, we have to at least assign SOME blame on global 
   warming! :-)
  
  Sure ;-). But something that hasn't been widely reported is that 
  there is significant global warming happening on Mars. (dry) Ice 
  caps are melting rapidly and I'm pretty sure it isn't caused by 
  burning fossil fuels or the lack of pundits ;-) 
 
 A good pinko liberal Commie bastid could blame 
 even that on the United States.  Viking 1 and 2 
 landed from a southerly direction and the whole 
 environment went to hell in a handbasket.

Unfathomable is the course of  (ah, don't give 'em ideas)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President 
 is to blame for a national disater.

From comedian Will Durst

The American people want drive through nickel beer night.

The American people want to lose weight by eating sour cream and onion
potato chips.

The American people would chew off their own foot if Jerry Springer
told them there was liquid gold in their ankle veins.

The American people think Bruce Willis can actually dodge bullets.

The American people love the Home Shopping Network because its
commercial free.

The American people believe Professional Wrestling is legitimate.

Also a recent survey found that about 25% of americans think the sun
revolves around the earth and Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alex Stanley wrote:
  Why the need for magical thinking?
  
 Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the 
President 
 is to blame for a national disater.
 
 CNN Poll:
 
 Based on this CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, most Americans would join 
 with Glenn's preference for tangible lessons over assignment of 
 guilt. Respondents were asked to evaluate the performance of 
various 
 levels of government in responding to the hurricane. Roughly half 
of 
 those responding to the survey rated both the federal agencies' 
 performance and the state and local agencies' performance as good 
 or great, compared to bad or terrible, with the state and 
 local levels scoring a little higher.
 
 When asked who is to blame for the problems in the city following 
 the hurricane, 13% said President Bush; 18% said federal agencies; 
 25% blamed state or local officials; and 38% said no one. Rather 
 surprisingly in view of the constant bad publicity, 63% said that 
no 
 one should be fired as a result of the response to the hurricane. 
 Moreover, 62% say that the progress now being made is satisfactory.
 
 'Poll: Most Americans believe New Orleans will never ecover'
 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/07/katrina.poll/

From the same CNN.com article, same poll:

Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
said it was good or great.

Federal government agencies' response was described as bad 
or terrible by 42 percent, and good or great by 35 percent.

A new CBS poll has come out in which 38% of
respondents approve of Bush's handling of
the response to Katrina, while 58% disapprove;
20% think the federal government's response was
adequate, and a whopping 77% think it was not.
16% think the federal government responded as
quickly as it could, 80% do not.

http://tinyurl.com/cswty






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
 Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the 
 President is to blame for a national disater.
 
 From comedian Will Durst
 
Apparently you don't think much of polls or the American people. Most 
Americans I've talked to don't blame the President for the disater and 
they reject the idea that the rescue was based on race factors. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
 response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
 said it was good or great.
 
Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the President 
is to blame for a national disaster and they don't buy the democrats 
contention that the rescue was race-based either.

From the National Review:

West's assertion of racism was groundless on other counts as
well. It takes considerable ignorance of American politics — or 
willful deception — to have missed the fact that the Bush 
administration has worked very hard to appear compassionate
on race issues. It seems odd that the White House would punt on 
racial quotas in order to placate moderate whites and blacks, then 
willfully incur enormous political damage by letting people die on 
the streets of New Orleans.

The danger here is real. Tens of thousands of black New Orleaneans 
persevered with dignity and sacrifice in the face of Katrina. But a 
sizable minority of blacks — including police — behaved 
reprehensibly in the aftermath, shooting at rescue workers, raping, 
killing and, yes, looting (though no cannibalism). If black 
activists are going to denounce the white response to
Katrina with such sweeping invective, they are going to invite an 
equally unfair and sweeping discussion of the black
response. 

That's not the debate to have right now. But it is the one
we're likely to have. West has already been invited to two more 
telethons.

Read more:

'We're Going West…'
By Jonah Goldberg
The National Review, September 7, 2005
http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200509070839.asp




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 jstein wrote:
  Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
  response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
  said it was good or great.
  
 Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the 
 President is to blame for a national disaster

Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
said it was good or great.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
 response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
 said it was good or great.
 
So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President or 
race factors in the rescue. 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 jstein wrote:
  Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
  response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
  said it was good or great.
  
 So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President or 
 race factors in the rescue.

Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
said it was good or great.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Most Americans, according to recent polls, don't think the 
  President is to blame for a national disater.
 
 From comedian Will Durst
 
 The American people want drive through nickel beer night.
 
 The American people want to lose weight by eating sour cream 
 and onion potato chips.
 
 The American people would chew off their own foot if Jerry Springer
 told them there was liquid gold in their ankle veins.
 
 The American people think Bruce Willis can actually dodge bullets.
 
 The American people love the Home Shopping Network because its
 commercial free.
 
 The American people believe Professional Wrestling is legitimate.
 
 Also a recent survey found that about 25% of americans think the sun
 revolves around the earth and Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.

Brilliant.  Thanks for posting it.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
 response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
 said it was good or great.

So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, or 
race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
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 jstein wrote:
  Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's 
  response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent 
  said it was good or great.
 
 So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, or 
 race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue.

Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's
response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent
said it was good or great.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's
 response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent
 said it was good or great.

So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, or 
race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue, but you insist on 
playing the politics card, the race card, and the sexual perversion 
card, and now the poll card.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
As you've no doubt noticed, Judy LOVES to stir the waters.  And there
is nothing I can imagine President Bush ever doing or not doing that 
she wouldn't condemn with all the considerable skill behind her sharply 
pointed tongue.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 jstein wrote:
  Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's
  response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 percent
  said it was good or great.
 
 So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, or 
 race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue, but you insist on 
 playing the politics card, the race card, and the sexual perversion 
 card, and now the poll card.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 As you've no doubt noticed, Judy LOVES to stir the waters.

Uh, Cliff, you're not paying attention.  What's quoted
below from me was originally part of my response to
a post of *Willytex* in which he had very selectively
quoted some numbers favoring Bush from a CNN report on
a poll.  In reply, I then cited several other figures
from the *same* report, the *same* poll, that weren't
as positive, for a little balance.

It's post number 71656 if you'd like to verify this.

  And
 there is nothing I can imagine President Bush ever doing or not 
 doing that she wouldn't condemn with all the considerable skill 
 behind her sharply pointed tongue.

Well, not only do you not pay attention, you don't
think real clearly either.  I suppose the two go
together.


 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  jstein wrote:
   Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's
   response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 
percent
   said it was good or great.
  
  So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, 
or 
  race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue, but you insist 
on 
  playing the politics card, the race card, and the sexual 
perversion 
  card, and now the poll card.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
Judy - you don't know me well.  If you did, I suspect you'd know that I
usually pay VERY close attention and am not known for fuzzy thought.  Of
course, there is the vanishingly slim possibility that you use those
pejoratives merely to try and gain some silly arguing advantage?  But
you wouldn't do that, now, would you?

What was that I was saying about your sharply pointed tongue being
ever in evidence?  Thanks for providing such a perfect example.

My original comments were quite intentional, and, I believe, quite accurate.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  As you've no doubt noticed, Judy LOVES to stir the waters.
 
 Uh, Cliff, you're not paying attention.  What's quoted
 below from me was originally part of my response to
 a post of *Willytex* in which he had very selectively
 quoted some numbers favoring Bush from a CNN report on
 a poll.  In reply, I then cited several other figures
 from the *same* report, the *same* poll, that weren't
 as positive, for a little balance.
 
 It's post number 71656 if you'd like to verify this.
 
   And
  there is nothing I can imagine President Bush ever doing or not 
  doing that she wouldn't condemn with all the considerable skill 
  behind her sharply pointed tongue.
 
 Well, not only do you not pay attention, you don't
 think real clearly either.  I suppose the two go
 together.
 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   jstein wrote:
Forty-two percent of respondents characterized President Bush's
response to the disaster as bad or terrible, while 35 
 percent
said it was good or great.
   
   So most Americans surveyed in the poll don't blame the President, 
 or 
   race, or sexual perversion factors in the rescue, but you insist 
 on 
   playing the politics card, the race card, and the sexual 
 perversion 
   card, and now the poll card.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Judy - you don't know me well.  If you did, I suspect you'd know
 that I usually pay VERY close attention and am not known for fuzzy 
 thought.

Well, you seem to be slipping up pretty badly
where I'm concerned.

  Of
 course, there is the vanishingly slim possibility that you use those
 pejoratives merely to try and gain some silly arguing advantage?  
 But you wouldn't do that, now, would you?

Actually, no, I'm just pointing out that you're
way off base.

 What was that I was saying about your sharply pointed tongue being
 ever in evidence?  Thanks for providing such a perfect example.
 
 My original comments were quite intentional, and, I believe, quite 
 accurate.

Oh, I'm sure you believe they were accurate; I doubt
you'd have made them otherwise.  Trouble is, you
accused me of trying to stir things up in reply to
a post in which that is manifestly not what I was
doing.

And then there was this--

And
   there is nothing I can imagine President Bush ever doing or not 
   doing that she wouldn't condemn with all the considerable skill 
   behind her sharply pointed tongue.

--which is the fuzziest thinking I've come across
in a while here.  Either that, or you have an
exceedingly limited imagination.

With very little difficulty, for example, I can
imagine Bush keeping James Lee Witt as head of
FEMA because of the splendid job he'd done of
reforming the decrepit agency and turning it into
a model of good management.

I can imagine Bush flying immediately to New
Orleans after the hurricane and giving a pep talk
like he did at ground zero after 9/11, then
following through with an eagle eye to make sure
the relief effort was going as it should.

These would have earned high praise from me.

I could go on, but those two examples should suffice.

You seem to think I somehow object to Bush as a
person, regardless of what he does or doesn't do.
But that doesn't make any sense.

I said earlier that I wouldn't care if Bush believed
he was God's messenger to humanity as long as he
behaved like a real man of God and cared for the poor
and the oppressed and pursued peace and justice.
Perhaps you missed that post.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Cliff
Yes, Judy.

Have a good night.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Judy - you don't know me well.  If you did, I suspect you'd know
  that I usually pay VERY close attention and am not known for fuzzy 
  thought.
 
 Well, you seem to be slipping up pretty badly
 where I'm concerned.
 
   Of
  course, there is the vanishingly slim possibility that you use those
  pejoratives merely to try and gain some silly arguing advantage?  
  But you wouldn't do that, now, would you?
 
 Actually, no, I'm just pointing out that you're
 way off base.
 
  What was that I was saying about your sharply pointed tongue being
  ever in evidence?  Thanks for providing such a perfect example.
  
  My original comments were quite intentional, and, I believe, quite 
  accurate.
 
 Oh, I'm sure you believe they were accurate; I doubt
 you'd have made them otherwise.  Trouble is, you
 accused me of trying to stir things up in reply to
 a post in which that is manifestly not what I was
 doing.
 
 And then there was this--
 
 And
there is nothing I can imagine President Bush ever doing or not 
doing that she wouldn't condemn with all the considerable skill 
behind her sharply pointed tongue.
 
 --which is the fuzziest thinking I've come across
 in a while here.  Either that, or you have an
 exceedingly limited imagination.
 
 With very little difficulty, for example, I can
 imagine Bush keeping James Lee Witt as head of
 FEMA because of the splendid job he'd done of
 reforming the decrepit agency and turning it into
 a model of good management.
 
 I can imagine Bush flying immediately to New
 Orleans after the hurricane and giving a pep talk
 like he did at ground zero after 9/11, then
 following through with an eagle eye to make sure
 the relief effort was going as it should.
 
 These would have earned high praise from me.
 
 I could go on, but those two examples should suffice.
 
 You seem to think I somehow object to Bush as a
 person, regardless of what he does or doesn't do.
 But that doesn't make any sense.
 
 I said earlier that I wouldn't care if Bush believed
 he was God's messenger to humanity as long as he
 behaved like a real man of God and cared for the poor
 and the oppressed and pursued peace and justice.
 Perhaps you missed that post.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cliff wrote:
  Judy - you don't know me well.
 
 Cliff - You'll get to know Judy well! Most Americans surveyed in 
the
 poll don't blame the hurricane on the President, and that's a fact.
 
 From Powerline:
 
 When asked who is to blame for the problems in the city following 
the
 hurricane, 13% said President Bush; 18% said federal agencies; 25%
 blamed state or local officials; and 38% said no one. Rather
 surprisingly in view of the constant bad publicity, 63% said that 
no
 one should be fired as a result of the response to the hurricane. 
 
 Moreover, 62% say that the progress now being made is satisfactory.
 
 'Katrina Lessons'
 http://www.powerlineblog.com/
 
 'Poll: Most Americans believe New Orleans will never ecover'
 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/07/katrina.poll/

Richard, you are beginning to sound like a TM Organization 'true 
believer', except you have substituted George Bush for Maharishi. 

I hear from you the same inability to accept that the man is not 
flawless, or that any acknowledgement of such an idea is heretical, 
or at the least, 'giving comfort to the enemy'. 

When you have been confronted with stories of Bush's ineptitude, you 
respond invariably by pointing out flaws in 'the opposition', much 
as Maharishi's true believers will criticize other spiritual 
movements and religions, instead of rationally accepting that their 
master is not perfect.  




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
Cliff wrote:
 As you've no doubt noticed, Judy LOVES to stir the waters. 
 
Cliff - She would make a good pit-bull!

Ad hominem is the second to last resort of someone who is loosing a
debate and is unable to respond with legitimacy. The last resort, most
difficult for the ego, is to consider that he might be wrong!

Classics from the alt.m.t. Groove Yard 
http://tinyurl.com/74d95

The results are in and the winner can now be announced. First place
goes to Mr. Steve Perino for posting one of the funniest Maharishi
bashes on alt.m.t., if not on the entire Usenet. Congratulations to
Mr. Perino  - I now bestow on ColdBluIce the First Whirled Peas
Award for punditry.

What has MishMashi Varmit ever said that is worth defending? - Steve
Perino 

From Judy Stein to Willytex:

Liar.
No, liar.
Wrong, liar.
Bite me, toots.
Non sequitur, liar.
Yes, it does, liar.
Willytex is a liar.
No, she did not, liar.
Yeah, it's a non sequitur.
As usual, Willytex is the liar.
Outright, deliberate falsehood.
Bob Dole is a liar, just like you.
Another right-winger bent on deception.
You've been lying your head off for months.
And that's just an outright, deliberate falsehood.
You snipped the context to obscure that fact, liar.
Boy, do you need a course in the fundamentals of logic. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-08 Thread Richard J. Williams
jim_flanegin  wrote:
 I hear from you the same inability to accept that the man is not 
 flawless, or that any acknowledgement of such an idea is heretical, 
 or at the least, 'giving comfort to the enemy'. 
 
Well, Jim, the fact is that most Americans support the federal
government and the Bush administration, especially during a war and a
national disaster. In my opinion, it's always good to root for the
home team. Why don't you try it - it's a great feeling. 

Do you really think that Katrina slammed the U.S. because we're trying
to establish democracy in the Middle East? If you believe in karma,
why wouldn't an earthquake wipe out China for killing all those poor
Tibetans?

 When you have been confronted with stories of Bush's ineptitude,
 you respond invariably by pointing out flaws in 'the opposition', 
 much as Maharishi's true believers will criticize other spiritual 
 movements and religions, instead of rationally accepting that their 
 master is not perfect.

Nobody is perfect, Jim, but if you're not a 'True Believer' and you
don't support your own President, what are you doing here wasting your
time? 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karmic Response'/'We Invade Iraq'/'Mother Nature Slams Us?'

2005-09-07 Thread akasha_108
condense to 5 7 5  and I will actually read you.
ELSE ...









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 Funny how God works in strange ways: 
 
 What we give, we get back; 
 
 Revenge is mine, said God. 
 
 So, perhaps, the invasion and destruction of Iraq; 
 
 It's infrastructure; it's poor and defenseless; 
 
 When we bombed, watching, Look How We Can Shock and Awe. 
 
 We watched the bombs fall, and light up the sky;
 
 Live on CNN. 
 
 Now we see the reaction; 
 
 Nature's might; in New Orleans; 
 
 And surrounding areas. 
 
 And the folly of man.
 
 And how the whole world sees our 'Superpower'; 
 
 For what it is; Like the Titanic. 
 
 Arrogant to think we could escape forever, 
 
 The wrath of God;
 
 For our nation's  invasion;
 
 And the destruction of Iraq. 
 
  
 
 
 
 
   
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