[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-06 Thread Richard J. Williams


  I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that 
  I'm considering buying a Mac.
  
nablusoss: 
 Buying a new laptop with the WIN8 installed was 
 a nightmare...

Anyone with any smarts is not going to switch
OS on a whim - there's always a learning curve,
Apple or Microsoft. I recently completed two
courses in AutoCAD - would not try this at home
without some instruction!

You guys probably should take a computer course,
or at least read a manual or two. If all you 
want to do is surf the web or post to newsgroups,
you should just get an Android phone - that way
you could use your phone as a computer. LoL!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
  I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that 
  I'm considering buying a Mac.
  
salyavin: 
 I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go 
 with a PC with the same spec but at half the 
 price

All you have to do is run the Apple OS on your PC 
with a dual boot. The guts in a MAC is just about 
the same as the guts in a PC, but at half the 
price. Go figure.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Jackson
There is a germ of 
truth in Rich's rambling. Apple does use Intel chips and graphics chips from a 
variety of manufacturers such as AMD and nvidia just as most PCs do. A 
modern Intel based Mac can run Windows or Linux, etc as well as Mac OSX 
using its Bootcamp capability. 

When run in that mode the Mac becomes a Windows machine, running Windows at the 
full capability of the 
hardware. This has nothing to do with emulations such as Parallels, 
VMware, etc that allow you to run Windows alongside Mac OSX.





 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 9:55 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
 

  
  I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that 
  I'm considering buying a Mac.
  
salyavin: 
 I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go 
 with a PC with the same spec but at half the 
 price

All you have to do is run the Apple OS on your PC 
with a dual boot. The guts in a MAC is just about 
the same as the guts in a PC, but at half the 
price. Go figure.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:

 
 
   I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that 
   I'm considering buying a Mac.
   
 nablusoss: 
  Buying a new laptop with the WIN8 installed was 
  a nightmare...
 
 Anyone with any smarts is not going to switch
 OS on a whim - there's always a learning curve,
 Apple or Microsoft. I recently completed two
 courses in AutoCAD - would not try this at home
 without some instruction!
 
 You guys probably should take a computer course,
 or at least read a manual or two. If all you 
 want to do is surf the web or post to newsgroups,
 you should just get an Android phone - that way
 you could use your phone as a computer. LoL!


Thanks for the advice :-) Anyway, seem those nitwits at Windows think that ALL 
new buyers are learning to use their newest programmes for the first time, 
forgetting about the millions that actually already knows how to moove about in 
XP or WIN7. 
That's what happens when you let mindfullness run amok in a company I 
suppose.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-06 Thread sparaig
The differences between Mac and PC have become less over time, but there still 
are f few.

On the hardware side, it is useful to think of a Mac as a high-end bundled 
stereo system where all components are made by the same manufacturer. You're 
not going to get the best possible quality at a given price point, but you can 
be reasonably confident that at least everything will work out of the box, and 
in order to get something consistently better at the same price, you have to 
become an audiophile or consult an audiophile. Individual computer speciality 
stores may create their own custom bundles, so that is another factoid to throw 
into the mix.

On the GUI side, Apple has lost a bit of ground on the GUI due to consistency 
issues between Classic Macs and the NeXTOS GUI's combined with marketing issues 
where Apple (Jobs) decided that it was better for all Apple products to 
standardize on the same GUI, even if the GUI of a portable touch device may not 
be the best thing to use with a desktop graphics workstation. PCs, on the other 
hand, have certainly improved drastically GUI-wise, since the days of Windows 
3.0.

The Operating System of Mac OS X probably is better overall than the current 
Windows counterpart, simply due to the longevity of the various Unixes and the 
fact that at no time it its history did anyone attempt to design a Unix that 
supported legacy software by sacrificing security. Any issues that Mac OS X has 
had with backwards compatibility have been due to add-ons outside the kernel 
(core software) of the OS.

Dual-booting a non-Apple machine is always going to be a little but problematic 
because Apple attempts to thwart using Mac OS X in different ways with each new 
OS release so upgrading to a new version of Mac OS X can be tricky on a PC. 
Going the other way is pretty easy since Apple also designed Mac hardware to 
dual boot Windows and Linux  with no problems and has always (mostly) been 
pretty good about easy updates to new Mac OS versions on its own hardware -if 
Apple lists your computer as upgradeable to a new OS release, you can be 
reasonably certain that they have tested it already. That's not often the case 
with generic PCs made by the hundreds of different companies that call 
themselves PC manufacturers.

Software comparisons between Macs and PCs are all over the place.

For games, the PC is hands down a winner. Native games almost always run faster 
on PCs than Macs; you have more choices of games AND more choices of hardware 
enhancements to make your computer a super-stud gaming-wise.

For other software, it is a mixed bag. PCs have far more options, but quality 
control, especially for higher end (and extremely low-end) software has always 
been a bit better on Macs due to the nature of Apple's relationship, both good 
and bad, with developers.

Disclaimer: I have preferred using and programming Macs over PCs for the last 
29 years.


L





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:

   I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that 
   I'm considering buying a Mac.
   
 salyavin: 
  I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go 
  with a PC with the same spec but at half the 
  price
 
 All you have to do is run the Apple OS on your PC 
 with a dual boot. The guts in a MAC is just about 
 the same as the guts in a PC, but at half the 
 price. Go figure.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-05 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering
 buying a Mac.
 
 What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy 
 one??

Buying a new laptop with the WIN8 installed was a nightmare, couldn't find even 
the simples thingy at the computer anymore. They seem to think they are so 
smart they could re-invent the wheel by putting it on the roof. Gave it back 
and ordered one with WIN7. Isn't Windows the company that teach their employees 
free woo-woo Buddhist meditation ?  That would explain alot...




[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-05 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 04/05/2013 11:15 AM, card wrote:
  I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering
  buying a Mac.
 
  What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy 
  one??
 
 
 
 About $1000 for a special logo on a PC.  Have you ever tried
 Linux? Try one of the live CD/DVDs or make a persistent pendrive
 version. Of course it will run much faster and boot in a blink on
 a HD compared to Windoze.


Alternative POV: About $1000 for the power of *nix in a form that's actually 
usable by average joe, non-neckbeards.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-05 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering
 buying a Mac.
 
 What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy 
 one??



I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go with a PC
with the same spec but at half the price. Now a mate of mine
has forked out for the Mac I wish I had too. If you can justify
the expense it's all just so much nicer in every way. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac

2013-04-05 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/05/2013 12:29 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 04/05/2013 11:15 AM, card wrote:
 I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering
 buying a Mac.

 What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy 
 one??


 About $1000 for a special logo on a PC.  Have you ever tried
 Linux? Try one of the live CD/DVDs or make a persistent pendrive
 version. Of course it will run much faster and boot in a blink on
 a HD compared to Windoze.

 Alternative POV: About $1000 for the power of *nix in a form that's actually 
 usable by average joe, non-neckbeards.



Ya sayin' our geeky card is an average Joe? :-D