[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: So, by my definition, Sal cannot be sexy to me until I've fallen in love with all of her, not just her great tits and ass -- and I think I speak for all here that Sal MUST have great tits and ass because God wouldn't be so mean as to create a human who is so lacking in all other respects without tossing in something to balance the scales. Edg HeHe, you are probably right ! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards opening people's inner experience. Is a real deal. She is more humble and not really a cult-builder. Has her experience and does her work. But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their spiritual practice things life. Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints like this living here. She is masterful. Has helped a lot of even the top TM people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems. Also helpful to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off. Is quite experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way. Amazing musician talent too. That's the review from the street, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
Now, ya see? -- Doug, what with your recent flood of posts that seem to be from a true believer, and with your being in everyone's face about are you a meditator, your below review of Janet Sussman seems so extra sweet that I'm thinkin' you're pulling my leg. I finally found a sample of her piano playing, and frankly, I can play like that all day long while answering Cash Cab questions. That aside, note that I do understand that being in the presence of the artist is a whole 'nother deal, and that, given my general state of consciousness, it wouldn't be a surprise that I was unable to appreciate an ethereal artist. So, just to push you a bit further, er, would you call yourself a Sussman true believer? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. In her case she has been very helpful here in FF and also out around towards opening people's inner experience. Is a real deal. She is more humble and not really a cult-builder. Has her experience and does her work. But is good at her modalities in helping folks with their spiritual practice things life. Don't actually have to travel to far places necessarily when FF has saints like this living here. She is masterful. Has helped a lot of even the top TM people through their spiritual dull drums or energetic problems. Also helpful to people in meditation problems, where TM might leave off. Is quite experienced and is multi-faceted as a spiritual healer that way. Amazing musician talent too. That's the review from the street, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5 Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:47 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music? Om yeah, is a weekly group meditation with her that is by far the hottest spiritual thing going in FF. Has been for a long time. Of course, happens under the movement radar and by a word of mouth is small. Like so much of all the real spiritual practice work that is going on in the FF meditating community now. Is really pretty fabulous that way in FF as a place. Is part of the spiritual practice community. When and where is that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his verbal diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior writing for what it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
In all fairness, in a moment of astoundingly rare humility, let me admit that my power of music query was, even for me, fluffy, scattered, ambling and all around Edg lite. So much so, that even Vaj had to complain. That said, what the hey, eh? If I blog here, if I overly indulge in promoting Trikkes, if I snort about the imagined-up look in some expat's eye, really, what the hey -- where's the harm? Here's my prevailing theory about why, say, Sal is so eager to be a critic about my posts: she knows that even thousands of years from now, I'll be recognized as one of the wisest of posters ever in existence, and she figure's she'll at least get some footnote in history as one of the trolls who attach themselves to Edg's greatest by any means. Ahh, that was fun just typing it! As for anyone seeming sexy to me, geeze, I don't even pick up the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated at the newstand and fan it for a quickie titter-giggle. I don't know how it happened, but I turned into an old man somewhere along the line, such that, while a hawt bod can get me to pause when viewing a bevy, the second thought never comes now. The parts of me that once invested in such fantasies have discovered that investment in such entertainments always leads to a final reality check that poofs the thought balloon above my cartoon head. Nope, me needs a real relationship if I'm going to see someone as sexy. It's the same deal with being a side-walk artist with one's wares hung on a fence for passers-by -- the viewers that pause and peer closely, those are the ones to whom the artist introduces him/herself. Just so, who wants a stranger sucking on your dick when you can have someone who really really really knows all about your darkside and yet still wants physical intimacy? No competition at all, see? So, by my definition, Sal cannot be sexy to me until I've fallen in love with all of her, not just her great tits and ass -- and I think I speak for all here that Sal MUST have great tits and ass because God wouldn't be so mean as to create a human who is so lacking in all other respects without tossing in something to balance the scales. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: quick Edg, call her sexy like Turqy did, and just as she now sees his verbal diarrhea as brilliant and insightful, she will see your far superior writing for what it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Edg has one of the most commonly occurring illnesses affecting those retirees bored to tears, Vaj: a chronic and usually incurable condition known as Verbal Diarrhea, or in the case of people who can't stop typing, Keyboardus Boringitis Maximus. This condition usually manifests itself in incomprehensible, long-winded diatribes that spew forth from the sufferer's keyboard, usually without regard to the fact that almost nobody actually *reads* said tracts, and always with regard to the fact that by the end of said tracts, the sufferer is so bored himself (or herself, as the case may be) with his own nonsense that he has totally blanked out on what the original point was, and hence keeps typing away aimlessly. There is so far no known cure for this sad condition, but there is one upside (so to speak): it works as an excellent sleeping pill for those unfortunates (or saints, depending on your POV) who might actually attempt to make sense of one of these tracts, rather than simply yawning and pressing the delete button. Sal Is that so? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2 Thanks for the link -- she slings some neatso keeno lingo. I tried to get one of her songs to play, but my computer started choking on the process, and after about ten minutes of futzing around, I gave up getting Rhapsody to run correctly on my machine. I tried google and still couldn't find any online samples of her stuff. I cannot imagine that her singing/playing has any instantly magical dynamics that are self-evidently validating her dogmaso many singers in history and not one yet has grabbed my psyche in any therapeutically obvious way, so what are the chances that she has mojo? Have you listened to her stuff and found it living up to her hype? Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Curtis, Hopefully you're lurking. There's a mystery about music that perhaps you've considered far more deeply than I have; it's that music is so unfailingly meaningful yet has such severe limitations on where its buzz-yer-brain qualities are useful for impacting reality. Play even one measure of ANY piece of music and have ANYONE listen to it, and that person will have a point of view about the music's meaning to him/her. The music will be easily characterized by any listener in a fashion that is consistent within for them -- but not necessarily mono-meaningfully consistent socially speaking. Even a young child can tell you if a few notes are happy or sad, or whatever, and their inner musical-Rosetta-Stone will be remarkably consistent in labeling other musical passages. Whether it is merely the beat or the voices/instruments used or whatever, it seems that each piece of music is utterly unique and unwaveringly precise in its presentation of message to listeners, yet everyone understands any music the very first time it is played. Not that any two listeners will agree on what words best describe a piece of music, but that each person will have some sort of inner process that seems to be rule driven and idiosyncratic. Given the absolutism of music on a personal level -- meaning: the same music will produce the same brain response for at least a few repetitions before jaded becomes an eroding dynamic -- I'm mystified that music has not been very potent as a psychologically therapeutic tool. It's the old music soothes the savage breast concept. Why can't music be used to impact psychology very strongly when it seems to have such power to symbolize -- nay, even embody and be -- emotions? Music is so emotional that I find it hard to believe that emotions in general are not perceived as musical. If I'm feeling an emotion, say, love, it seems like music is playing in that my mind has a soundtrack that harmonizes with conceptual content (lyrics?) Yet, it is rare to have folks describe their feelings with musical terminology, e.g. I'm feeling sotto voce stacatto love. It might be a cool thingie, eh? My main question is: we know that we can get a crowd all tapping their feet and seemingly having the same emotions when listening to a piece, but we also know that the priest along with the serial killer in the crowd -- though sharing a musically triggered mood -- do not come away from the listening experience with any measurable change in their personalities -- so, WHY NOT? How can music have such power to trigger one's inner state, but be so seemingly impotent when it comes to having a measurable impact. I don't see any school of psychology doing anything like, say, the torture technique in A Clockwork Orange by pouring music and imagery into a brain and having that impact personality. I see no evidence of music soothing any breasts at all except while the music is being actually played. To me it is astounding that someone can listen to a full orchestration of a symphony by Mozart and not be driven sane. Where's the beef, ya know? Why doesn't music stick? My working theory is that music, like ordinary life experiences, can have a power to gradually nudge a personality, but that it would take a hell of a lot to get measurable results. Maybe if a person tried to mindfully listen to Mozart in a nuanced fashion like initiators are trained to be mindfully listening to the puja as they sing it, then Mozart could be a great healer. Don't know -- and so I ask your opinion. Edg in that music that they interpret as, say, happy, will be found The innate ability to appreciate music...to appreciate harmony or disharmony... The power of sound, in and of itself...the power of the sound quality of the mantras. The way emotion gets involved with sound... The way the art of music reflects the culture... 'The music of the Sixties'. A feeling for a second: Love is all you need. The music of the lately... 'Gansta Rap' 'Heavy Metal'... 'Grunge Punk' Yucky Music of no harmony... Reflects pants down around the knees... Prison population, feelings of anger and hopelessness... Confusion, chaos, meaninglessness Like everything is a joke man, just ask Jon Stewart of the C.Report... Everything is just a video game man! Nothing is real...it's all electronic images on a screeen... 'Don't ask, don't tell, man... Shut up, and listen to the rap, man... You can listen to Mozart all you want, But when they tell you to eat cake, when you have no bread... Things start getting out of hand... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curtis -- what is the power of music?
Well, for people who know what they are doing with it music can be quite spiritual in a meditative way. Seems that saints through time have used it for an enabling effect it can have on the subtle systems of spiritual experience. For instance, the power of music: http://cdbaby.com/cd/sussmanjanet2
