Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-09 Thread Llundrub





Honestly Paul, I can't remember 
having said that though I'm sure it was so. I used to talk alot.When I 
came off student purusha I had a fire under my butt to accomplish the stuff that 
I had set aside for a couple years. Like having some fun. I actually had given 
up listening to music for almost two years at MIU, but then on purusha I started 
listening again. I really liked purusha. I consider that the highlight of 
my MIU time. In the pod me and this guy Nick used to sing in the showers at the 
top of our lungs. Like that "In the jungle" song. We used to laugh so hard. It 
was hard to just be quiet during times like those, so yes, I was a good bit 
uncaring of others and I'm sorry now that I was such an asshole. 

I'm reading a Buddhist tract and it 
says that compassion is the antidote to bliss because it really grounds one in 
actuality. I wasn't very compassionate back them. I was too full of myself. And 
too full of bliss. A bliss that was undeserved and was merely a byproduct of 
meditation but not the reward for good behavior. My MIU exodus and oddessey have 
been through many hells and back and I am the same and yet different. I have 
bliss now too, but it's not something that means anything too me, it's merely 
there, and it usually gets dashed to pieces as soon as I head to work. A much 
harder process for me has been to stabilize compassion. Because it too 
gets dashed to pieces. 

Thank for the words. I don't 
really remember your face. I don't think you ever told me to turn it down. 
There was another guy Dave who had a real stereo system, maybe he was the 
culprit. I just had a small ghettoblaster. This is bringing back alot of 
memories. The only problem is they're all out of order. My days and years at MIU 
are sort of of one taste. I can't get a timeline in my head about events. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  at_man_and_brahman 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:51 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say 
  I told you so.
  Kirk,In reality, though I hated your music, I 
  thought that what you said in Annapurnawas a fascinating statement, and I 
  thoughtmuch more highly of you after that. I'vequoted your statement 
  to many, manypeople over the years.--Paul WilsonYou 
  probably aren't Mara.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
  wrote: Cool. There is someone here that know's me. That rocks. I felt 
  so alienated having always to explain myself when obviously my motivation 
  was just so patent and superficial and absurd. Playing music was obviously 
  such a sin. That would make me a great sinner. I knew I was good at 
  something.   But in my defense, I only played music between 
  programs at about 3 o clock. And moreover I was the first person to 
  live in that pod you mention. I don't know who or when you all decided it 
  was a quiet pod. I was living there for months while it was being 
  renovated. My one time arguing with soomeone over music it's true I 
  told them to fuck off or put em up, which was plainly wrong, and I always 
  regretted taking that muscular stance which was just so not me. That 
  person must have been really naturally irritating to have struck me in 
  such a manner as to make me want to kick their ass. I never fight. Or 
  almost never. That is, twice in the last 20 years.   
  Woohoo, I thought no one remembered me. I'm so psyched. So nothing I said 
  below was true because it's my goal in life to be obnoxious. That explains 
  why I was at MIU in the first place too. Meditating on how to be 
  obnoxious.  - Original Message - 
   From: at_man_and_brahman  To: 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 
  5:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told 
  you so.   Kirk Bernhardt was in my pod. 
  Though everyone had prearranged that this pod would be a 
  "quiet" building, Kirk took it upon himself to fill the 
  whole building with his super-loud music from 
   downstairs. He was generally despised in the pod. 
   I once sat near him at lunch when he 
  explained his philosophy. "At an early age, I learned 
  that the only thing I was good at was being 
  obnoxious. I decided that I'd just make it my plan for 
  life."  K.B. was Mara; it takes one to know 
  one.   
  -Kirk Bernhardt MIU Class of '87" 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-09 Thread Zdravko Baselli



Very right said.at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kirk Bernhardt was in my pod. Though everyonehad prearranged that this pod would be a "quiet"building, Kirk took it upon himself to fill the wholebuilding with his super-loud music from downstairs. He was generally despised in the pod.I once sat near him at lunch when he explainedhis philosophy. "At an early age, I learned thatthe only thing I was good at was being obnoxious.I decided that I'd just make it my plan for life."K.B. was Mara; it takes one to know one. -Kirk Bernhardt MIU Class of '87"  To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-09 Thread at_man_and_brahman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank for the words.  I don't really remember your face.  

I do not have one, or at least did not have one then.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-09 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zdravko Baselli 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very right said.
 
 at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kirk Bernhardt was 
in my pod. Though everyone
 had prearranged that this pod would be a quiet
 building, Kirk took it upon himself to fill the whole
 building with his super-loud music from 
 downstairs. He was generally despised in the pod.
 
 I once sat near him at lunch when he explained
 his philosophy. At an early age, I learned that
 the only thing I was good at was being obnoxious.
 I decided that I'd just make it my plan for life.

This is Rudra Joe, aka Llundrub ?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread off_world_beings
,Maharishi is an obvious tyrant. Have you ever seen him act from 
charity and 
give something to someone downtrodden and poor? 

He gave me tons of stuff...all for free. I must be the only one 
though. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 ,Maharishi is an obvious tyrant. Have you ever seen him act from 
 charity and 
 give something to someone downtrodden and poor? 
 
 He gave me tons of stuff...all for free. I must be the only one 
 though.

You are not the only one. Millions of people will think of Maharishi as 
the most generous person that ever lived. In Boppard He said this, not 
a word by word quote: I could have stayed in the mountains, but 
sacrifising this life was necessary for the new age to come.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread anonymousff
Hi Llundrub,
That was a loaded post that was interesting to read.
i have two questions Why didn't you post that directly by 
yourself to alt.meditation.transcendental insted of having John Manning 
who forwarded Eve Kadmon quating you? what am I missing?

By the title you obviously feel the same, so was it at that
time that you started to shift towards Buddhism?
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Google Groups : alt.meditation.transcendental
 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread at_man_and_brahman
Kirk Bernhardt was in my pod. Though everyone
had prearranged that this pod would be a quiet
building, Kirk took it upon himself to fill the whole
building with his super-loud music from 
downstairs. He was generally despised in the pod.

I once sat near him at lunch when he explained
his philosophy. At an early age, I learned that
the only thing I was good at was being obnoxious.
I decided that I'd just make it my plan for life.

K.B. was Mara; it takes one to know one.

   -Kirk Bernhardt MIU Class of '87 
 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread Llundrub





I originally posted it a few months 
before that repost or maybe a year. I couldn't find the original, but I did want 
the time stamp to show that what I felt then is being borne out now. 


Yes, Maharishi's emphasis on money 
was directly responsible for me awakening to the fact that the TMO was very 
fallable, wrongful, and temporary. I wanted a religion that I felt would still be around during my next 
life. No point wasting time building up beliefs that are just going to cease to 
have any effect the next moment. 

I saw Maharishi imploding, and 
still do. The only religion that I found which was geared to experience and not 
belief was Buddhism. That will be more true in a hundred years.

The end is not yet here for the 
Movement. Rock bottom is very low and still a bit away. I still think that even 
more toxic things will come about regarding Maharishi and TMO, things that will 
finally show that Maharishi is actually insane. He will continue to show his 
true colors - greed, fascism, mysogyny, lust for power, duality, hatred. 


The irony is that what we thought 
was the "lovebomb" was actuallly just the plain old bomb. From my philosophy 
this is very easy to measure. To wit, in unity, it all already is God and 
perfect, it's only the eyes that need clearing from sleep to see it. No new 
world order is needed. The more a new world order is pushed the more 
dualistic the teacher must be. We're already quite ok, no new outfit is needed. 
I'll say it again, the more far out the scheme the further from truth the 
scheemer. No one on earth has been more far out than Maharishi including 
Hitler. 

I could go on, but I won't. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  anonymousff 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:03 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say 
  I told you so.
  Hi Llundrub,That was a loaded post that was interesting 
  to read.i have two questions Why didn't you post that directly by 
  yourself to alt.meditation.transcendental insted of having John Manning 
  who forwarded Eve Kadmon quating you? what am I missing?By the 
  title you obviously feel the same, so was it at thattime that you started 
  to shift towards Buddhism?--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google Groups : 
  alt.meditation.transcendental ingTo 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kirk Bernhardt was in my pod. Though everyone
 had prearranged that this pod would be a quiet
 building, Kirk took it upon himself to fill the whole
 building with his super-loud music from 
 downstairs. He was generally despised in the pod.
 
 I once sat near him at lunch when he explained
 his philosophy. At an early age, I learned that
 the only thing I was good at was being obnoxious.
 I decided that I'd just make it my plan for life.
 
 K.B. was Mara; it takes one to know one.
 
-Kirk Bernhardt MIU Class of '87 .



LOL !
I guess he hasn't changed. he's trying though...right Kirk?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread Llundrub





LOL !I guess he 
hasn't changed. he's trying though...right Kirk?---Yep


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cool. There is someone here that know's me. That rocks. I felt so alienated 
 having always 
to explain myself when obviously my motivation was just so patent and 
superficial and 
absurd. Playing music was obviously such a sin. That would make me a great 
sinner. I knew I 
was good at something. 
 
 But in my defense, I only played music between programs at about 3 o clock.  
 And 
moreover I was the first person to live in that pod you mention. I don't know 
who or when 
you all decided it was a quiet pod. I was living there for months while it was 
being renovated.  
My one time arguing with soomeone over music it's true I told them to fuck off 
or put em up, 
which was plainly wrong, and I always regretted taking that muscular stance 
which was just 
so not me. That person must have been really naturally irritating to have 
struck me in such a 
manner as to make me want to kick their ass. I never fight.  Or almost never. 
That is, twice in 
the last 20 years. 
 
 Woohoo, I thought no one remembered me. I'm so psyched. So nothing I said 
 below was 
true because it's my goal in life to be obnoxious. That explains why I was at 
MIU in the first 
place too. Meditating on how to be obnoxious. 

I got that siddhi.  Friendliness, compassion, obnoxiousness. The next one is 
steal money and 
feel OK, yeah that's it. Although I think that is MAHA's mantra. Right from the 
mahaveda.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.

2005-05-08 Thread at_man_and_brahman
Kirk,

In reality, though I hated your music, 
I thought that what you said in Annapurna
was a fascinating statement, and I thought
much more highly of you after that. I've
quoted your statement to many, many
people over the years.

--Paul Wilson

You probably aren't Mara.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cool. There is someone here that know's me. That rocks. I felt so alienated 
 having 
always to explain myself when obviously my motivation was just so patent and 
superficial 
and absurd. Playing music was obviously such a sin. That would make me a great 
sinner. I 
knew I was good at something. 
 
 But in my defense, I only played music between programs at about 3 o clock.  
 And 
moreover I was the first person to live in that pod you mention. I don't know 
who or when 
you all decided it was a quiet pod. I was living there for months while it was 
being 
renovated.  My one time arguing with soomeone over music it's true I told them 
to fuck off 
or put em up, which was plainly wrong, and I always regretted taking that 
muscular stance 
which was just so not me. That person must have been really naturally 
irritating to have 
struck me in such a manner as to make me want to kick their ass. I never fight. 
 Or almost 
never. That is, twice in the last 20 years. 
 
 Woohoo, I thought no one remembered me. I'm so psyched. So nothing I said 
 below was 
true because it's my goal in life to be obnoxious. That explains why I was at 
MIU in the 
first place too. Meditating on how to be obnoxious. 
   - Original Message - 
   From: at_man_and_brahman 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:39 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.
 
 
   Kirk Bernhardt was in my pod. Though everyone
   had prearranged that this pod would be a quiet
   building, Kirk took it upon himself to fill the whole
   building with his super-loud music from 
   downstairs. He was generally despised in the pod.
 
   I once sat near him at lunch when he explained
   his philosophy. At an early age, I learned that
   the only thing I was good at was being obnoxious.
   I decided that I'd just make it my plan for life.
 
   K.B. was Mara; it takes one to know one.
 
  -Kirk Bernhardt MIU Class of '87 

 
 
 
 
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