[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion
As far as TM and moral reasoning goes, I am fully aware that a few of the heavy hitters within the TMO have slept with other peoples wives, or at least attempted to. Very few per capita though. However, Fairfield had the highest divorce rate in Iowa in the 1990's, but as a friend pointed out, I wonder what the domestic violence rate was outside of Fairfield. -- OffWorld you're correct, any moral failures among meditators is usually limited to very mild issues. Most failures i've seen are usually lack of responsibility or integrity, which is usually not a catastrophic problem, IMO. The worst moral failures i've seen or heard of is dishonesty in business to the point of it being theft, or perhaps some sex scandals here and there. But domestic violence, I assume is very rare, or violence in general. But I also think part of the reason for less moral problems among meditators is also partially due to the 'type' of person who would be interested in meditation in the first place. Most people interested in any form of yoga, meditation, or anything spiritual are likely to already be well beyond any harmful tendencies. Although TM may have something to do with it, so does the individual mindset of the individual. seekliberation p.s. I've noticed that you, and perhaps one other person on this forum are able to alter the font and style of your text on this forum. Could you explain how to do that? I haven't been able to find any tabs that give that option. I tried copying and pasting from Microsoft word, but it always goes back to the default text style on here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , seekliberation seekliberat...@... wrote: As far as TM and moral reasoning goes, I am fully aware that a few of the heavy hitters within the TMO have slept with other peoples wives, or at least attempted to. Very few per capita though. However, Fairfield had the highest divorce rate in Iowa in the 1990's, but as a friend pointed out, I wonder what the domestic violence rate was outside of Fairfield. -- OffWorld you're correct, any moral failures among meditators is usually limited to very mild issues. Most failures i've seen are usually lack of responsibility or integrity, which is usually not a catastrophic problem, IMO. The worst moral failures i've seen or heard of is dishonesty in business to the point of it being theft, or perhaps some sex scandals here and there. But domestic violence, I assume is very rare, or violence in general. But I also think part of the reason for less moral problems among meditators is also partially due to the 'type' of person who would be interested in meditation in the first place. Most people interested in any form of yoga, meditation, or anything spiritual are likely to already be well beyond any harmful tendencies. Although TM may have something to do with it, so does the individual mindset of the individual. Yes, no-one has done a study on it. But there are studies on reduced violence published in peer-reviewed journals. This could be true of any practice of course, but we'll never know until it is studied for 10 or 20 years. seekliberation p.s. I've noticed that you, and perhaps one other person on this forum are able to alter the font and style of your text on this forum. Could you explain how to do that? I haven't been able to find any tabs that give that option. I tried copying and pasting from Microsoft word, but it always goes back to the default text style on here. I am using Internet Explorer and I go to the FFL website to post... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages/238378?viscount=-30\ l=1 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages/238378?viscount=-3\ 0l=1 I don't post from the e-mail, just from the site. You need to sign in to be able to post. If you hit reply you should see a little button near the top called Rich Text Editor. Click on this and you can see the options for bold, font style, and font color etc. Let me know if you cannot find it. I'm not sure if it works with Safari or Firefox. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberat...@... wrote: I don't understand why people feel Tiger needs any help whatsoever, let alone any ridicule. What we have here is a double standard. John F Kennedy cheated on his wife, and people all over the country to this day are still regarding him as one of the most monumental presidents of all time. Bill Clinton helped campaign for Barack Obama, and Bill was cheered on like a big time hero in large crowds of democratic voters in 2008. Obama, Bush, and Clinton have all admitted to or at least been in trouble for the use of illegal drugs at some point in their lives. These are all leaders of our country who make worldwide decisions that impact lives of billions of people. But we don't care, we only care about Tiger. The modern world has become more and more prudish in some ways (especially in America ) I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I don't really know. Its hard to judge the complexities of it. I've never cheated on anyone, but I don't see the big deal. Men are men, and women are women, and the future it seems will be full of men with their balls cut off at an early age? This is the one aspect of modern life I think I am still a more little 'old school' about. What about the morality of all other actors, politicians and sports heros throughout our country? David Letterman seems to be doing fine very shortly after his ordeal. But for some reason we focus on Tiger instead. I thought maybe because he's black. But I think it's more so because everyone thought he was an absolute goody two shoes, and everyone is loving it when they see someone with that image fall from grace. As far as TM and moral reasoning goes, I am fully aware that a few of the heavy hitters within the TMO have slept with other peoples wives, or at least attempted to. Very few per capita though. However, Fairfield had the highest divorce rate in Iowa in the 1990's, but as a friend pointed out, I wonder what the domestic violence rate was outside of Fairfield. -- OffWorld Some of it is only rumor, some of it comes from direct sources I absolutely trust. I don't think TM necessarily causes our moral reasoning to overcome our sex drive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Redeeming Tiger: II.1 Mortification, study and surrendering the fruits of work to God are called Yoga. Well, writing as a conservative meditator, I would remind poor Tiger of the old axiom, Tiger, what you put your attention on certainly grows stronger in life. Not just showing up in the dome or some zen center on whim of high holiday but being a practicing disciplined meditator has the clear scientific benefit of improving traditional `moral reasoning', as John Hagelin does have power point slide charts to show. I'd urge Tiger in his fallen state of being now to directly get right with meditation. To come back to true meditation. Dharana, Dhyana, Samadhi. As he may notice his mind is off, then come back to the silence, the Dhyanna, without comment and let the redemptive Samadhi of nature fill this earthly soul. For, `whether pure or impure whoever so opens themselves to the expanded vision of unbounded awareness gains inner and outer purity'. This wisdom of the integration of life is incredibly compassionate, redemptive. Come back to meditation. Please come, take this flower, sit here, and let's close the eyes it will take some work, called spiritual discipline. Surrender yourself, sit with someone who can check your meditation. Dharshan. There is no time like the present. Shake off that faint-heartedness, Come to meditation. Jai Adi Shankara, -Doug in FF John Stewart and The Best F**king Theological Team helps Tiger Woods find forgiveness by recommending the best religion for his redemption: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-4-2010/the-best-f--king-ne\ \ ws-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-4-2010/the-best-f--king-n\ \ ews-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith Hilarious, especially the reporter checking in from Pandora.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion
Redeeming Tiger: II.1 Mortification, study and surrendering the fruits of work to God are called Yoga. Well, writing as a conservative meditator, I would remind poor Tiger of the old axiom, Tiger, what you put your attention on certainly grows stronger in life. Not just showing up in the dome or some zen center on whim of high holiday but being a practicing disciplined meditator has the clear scientific benefit of improving traditional `moral reasoning', as John Hagelin does have power point slide charts to show. I'd urge Tiger in his fallen state of being now to directly get right with meditation. To come back to true meditation. Dharana, Dhyana, Samadhi. As he may notice his mind is off, then come back to the silence, the Dhyanna, without comment and let the redemptive Samadhi of nature fill this earthly soul. For, `whether pure or impure whoever so opens themselves to the expanded vision of unbounded awareness gains inner and outer purity'. This wisdom of the integration of life is incredibly compassionate, redemptive. Come back to meditation. Please come, take this flower, sit here, and let's close the eyes it will take some work, called spiritual discipline. Surrender yourself, sit with someone who can check your meditation. Dharshan. There is no time like the present. Shake off that faint-heartedness, Come to meditation. Jai Adi Shankara, -Doug in FF John Stewart and The Best F**king Theological Team helps Tiger Woods find forgiveness by recommending the best religion for his redemption: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-4-2010/the-best-f--king-ne\ ws-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-4-2010/the-best-f--king-n\ ews-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith Hilarious, especially the reporter checking in from Pandora.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Stewart his team discuss Tiger Woods' religion
I don't understand why people feel Tiger needs any help whatsoever, let alone any ridicule. What we have here is a double standard. John F Kennedy cheated on his wife, and people all over the country to this day are still regarding him as one of the most monumental presidents of all time. Bill Clinton helped campaign for Barack Obama, and Bill was cheered on like a big time hero in large crowds of democratic voters in 2008. Obama, Bush, and Clinton have all admitted to or at least been in trouble for the use of illegal drugs at some point in their lives. These are all leaders of our country who make worldwide decisions that impact lives of billions of people. But we don't care, we only care about Tiger. What about the morality of all other actors, politicians and sports heros throughout our country? David Letterman seems to be doing fine very shortly after his ordeal. But for some reason we focus on Tiger instead. I thought maybe because he's black. But I think it's more so because everyone thought he was an absolute goody two shoes, and everyone is loving it when they see someone with that image fall from grace. As far as TM and moral reasoning goes, I am fully aware that a few of the heavy hitters within the TMO have slept with other peoples wives, or at least attempted to. Some of it is only rumor, some of it comes from direct sources I absolutely trust. I don't think TM necessarily causes our moral reasoning to overcome our sex drive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Redeeming Tiger: II.1 Mortification, study and surrendering the fruits of work to God are called Yoga. Well, writing as a conservative meditator, I would remind poor Tiger of the old axiom, Tiger, what you put your attention on certainly grows stronger in life. Not just showing up in the dome or some zen center on whim of high holiday but being a practicing disciplined meditator has the clear scientific benefit of improving traditional `moral reasoning', as John Hagelin does have power point slide charts to show. I'd urge Tiger in his fallen state of being now to directly get right with meditation. To come back to true meditation. Dharana, Dhyana, Samadhi. As he may notice his mind is off, then come back to the silence, the Dhyanna, without comment and let the redemptive Samadhi of nature fill this earthly soul. For, `whether pure or impure whoever so opens themselves to the expanded vision of unbounded awareness gains inner and outer purity'. This wisdom of the integration of life is incredibly compassionate, redemptive. Come back to meditation. Please come, take this flower, sit here, and let's close the eyes it will take some work, called spiritual discipline. Surrender yourself, sit with someone who can check your meditation. Dharshan. There is no time like the present. Shake off that faint-heartedness, Come to meditation. Jai Adi Shankara, -Doug in FF John Stewart and The Best F**king Theological Team helps Tiger Woods find forgiveness by recommending the best religion for his redemption: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-4-2010/the-best-f--king-ne\ ws-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-january-4-2010/the-best-f--king-n\ ews-team-ever---tiger-woods--faith Hilarious, especially the reporter checking in from Pandora.
