[FairfieldLife] Re: Just so you know
Which would only feed so many already overgrown ego's in desperate need of worship. Today you'll find many of those disappointed individuals over at Batgap and other new age dumps, desperately seeking attention, recognition, followers and income. Maharishi saw through this nonsense and established a system that works and will work for another 10.000 years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : These traditions usually allow for one to become an acharya. However it is doubtful that Maharishi ever even attained that status himself. Otherwise he would have made swamis of teachers and we would have had the opportunity to learn mantra shastra and thus set up our own meditation programs. There are yogi-s and there are bhogi-s (gross enjoyers). Tantrika-s are bhogi-s not yogi-s. Not matter the bullshit you hear, yogi-s are processed of viiiaga (vairagya or austerity). Tantrika-s are dispossessed of austerity and are hankering for pleasure just like you. The only thing differentiating them from you is the possession of the antar-yaga (the inner fire-offering). The reality they are reluctant to admit is that Ishara doesn't give a shit about how many mantra-s you japa (or which ones) or how many Agni-Hotras you perform - whether internal or external. Sincereity is worth a quintillion mantra-s. The fire offering in essence is the offering of YOU TO ISHAVARA and the rest is just Gomâya.
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You missed your calling and your time - you would have been perfect as a medieval court jester, earning your bread and your stripes with your ridiculous antics. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 6:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just so you know Which would only feed so many already overgrown ego's in desperate need of worship. Today you'll find many of those disappointed individuals over at Batgap and other new age dumps, desperately seeking attention, recognition, followers and income. Maharishi saw through this nonsense and established a system that works and will work for another 10.000 years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : These traditions usually allow for one to become an acharya. However it is doubtful that Maharishi ever even attained that status himself. Otherwise he would have made swamis of teachers and we would have had the opportunity to learn mantra shastra and thus set up our own meditation programs. There are yogi-s and there are bhogi-s (gross enjoyers). Tantrika-s are bhogi-s not yogi-s. Not matter the bullshit you hear, yogi-s are processed of viiiaga (vairagya or austerity). Tantrika-s are dispossessed of austerity and are hankering for pleasure just like you. The only thing differentiating them from you is the possession of the antar-yaga (the inner fire-offering). The reality they are reluctant to admit is that Ishara doesn't give a shit about how many mantra-s you japa (or which ones) or how many Agni-Hotras you perform - whether internal or external. Sincereity is worth a quintillion mantra-s. The fire offering in essence is the offering of YOU TO ISHAVARA and the rest is just Gomâya.
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On 7/20/2014 5:53 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You missed your calling and your time - you would have been perfect as a medieval court jester, earning your bread and your stripes with your ridiculous antics. You got to work really early this morning! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 20, 2014 6:07 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Just so you know Which would only feed so many already overgrown ego's in desperate need of worship. Today you'll find many of those disappointed individuals over at Batgap and other new age dumps, desperately seeking attention, recognition, followers and income. Maharishi saw through this nonsense and established a system that works and will work for another 10.000 years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : These traditions usually allow for one to become an acharya. However it is doubtful that Maharishi ever even attained that status himself. Otherwise he would have made swamis of teachers and we would have had the opportunity to learn mantra shastra and thus set up our own meditation programs. There are yogi-s and there are bhogi-s (gross enjoyers). Tantrika-s are bhogi-s not yogi-s. Not matter the bullshit you hear, yogi-s are processed of viiiaga (vairagya or austerity). Tantrika-s are dispossessed of austerity and are hankering for pleasure just like you. The only thing differentiating them from you is the possession of the antar-yaga (the inner fire-offering). The reality they are reluctant to admit is that Ishara doesn't give a shit about how many mantra-s you japa (or which ones) or how many Agni-Hotras you perform - whether internal or external. Sincereity is worth a quintillion mantra-s. The fire offering in essence is the offering of YOU TO ISHAVARA and the rest is just Gomâya.
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Says the guy who claims the tantric master he met wouldn't initiate him because he had renunciate proclivities. :-D You shouldn't have found someone who would initiate you. What's learned from books stays in books. I don't know who this Tantric master yer talking about would be. WTF? You must have been watching too much MSLSD this weekend. Your proffered opposition between experience and knowledge shows how little you comprehend. You must equate knowledge with the discursiveness of the rational mind. No wonder what you say is blah blah blah. Like most Tantrika-s yer a bhogi addicted to experience. You are not equipped to understand the difference between the immediacy of non-discursive, direct knowing and conceptual thinking. Too bad for you. Better go worship yer devata and pretend yer the new Ishvara.
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On 07/20/2014 05:01 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Says the guy who claims the tantric master he met wouldn't initiate him because he had renunciate proclivities. :-D You shouldn't have found someone who would initiate you. What's learned from books stays in books. I don't know who this Tantric master yer talking about would be. WTF? You made the statement a couple month's back. But like I've said I've asked three times about your background and got three different answers. You must have been watching too much MSLSD this weekend. Your proffered opposition between experience and knowledge shows how little you comprehend. You must equate knowledge with the discursiveness of the rational mind. No wonder what you say is blah blah blah. Like most Tantrika-s yer a bhogi addicted to experience. You are not equipped to understand the difference between the immediacy of non-discursive, direct knowing and conceptual thinking. Too bad for you. Better go worship yer devata and pretend yer the new Ishvara. Me thinks that Richard is right and you are Jellos. No reason to be.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just so you know
These traditions usually allow for one to become an acharya. However it is doubtful that Maharishi ever even attained that status himself. Otherwise he would have made swamis of teachers and we would have had the opportunity to learn mantra shastra and thus set up our own meditation programs. There are yogi-s and there are bhogi-s (gross enjoyers). Tantrika-s are bhogi-s not yogi-s. Not matter the bullshit you hear, yogi-s are processed of viiiaga (vairagya or austerity). Tantrika-s are dispossessed of austerity and are hankering for pleasure just like you. The only thing differentiating them from you is the possession of the antar-yaga (the inner fire-offering). The reality they are reluctant to admit is that Ishara doesn't give a shit about how many mantra-s you japa (or which ones) or how many Agni-Hotras you perform - whether internal or external. Sincereity is worth a quintillion mantra-s. The fire offering in essence is the offering of YOU TO ISHAVARA and the rest is just Gomâya.
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On 07/19/2014 06:06 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: These traditions usually allow for one to become an acharya. However it is doubtful that Maharishi ever even attained that status himself. Otherwise he would have made swamis of teachers and we would have had the opportunity to learn mantra shastra and thus set up our own meditation programs. There are yogi-s and there are bhogi-s (gross enjoyers). Tantrika-s are bhogi-s not yogi-s. Not matter the bullshit you hear, yogi-s are processed of viiiaga (vairagya or austerity). Tantrika-s are dispossessed of austerity and are hankering for pleasure just like you. The only thing differentiating them from you is the possession of the antar-yaga (the inner fire-offering). The reality they are reluctant to admit is that Ishara doesn't give a shit about how many mantra-s you japa (or which ones) or how many Agni-Hotras you perform - whether internal or external. Sincereity is worth a quintillion mantra-s. The fire offering in essence is the offering of YOU TO ISHAVARA and the rest is just Gomâya. Says the guy who claims the tantric master he met wouldn't initiate him because he had renunciate proclivities. :-D You shouldn't have found someone who would initiate you. What's learned from books stays in books.